#psyker-class

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hardy citrus
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are you doing a heavy in there right?

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having played with bcob and without, it feels so much better without

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with bcob u just blast ur peril away so fucking fast

zealous wing
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i dont use the heavy after l3 often

hardy citrus
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u want high peril because over 80 peril maxes out warp rider and i assume it also maxes out ur cleave from that other node

zealous wing
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not quite but its still +80% cleave

hearty wolf
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is it too l,ate

hardy citrus
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interesting that they use different values

zealous wing
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plus it activates max unstable power

hexed cape
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just starting psyker but i wanna do assail stuff and this looks like it gets everything that would boost it?

hearty wolf
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Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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I was taking a POO

zealous wing
hardy citrus
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yeah but that's raw damage vs cleave

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idk

ripe obsidian
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we all died

plucky flax
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Bruh moment when shivs don't have deflector

hexed cape
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i know "i wanna assail" isnt a build

zealous wing
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its a choice

buoyant maple
hardy citrus
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i thought warp rider hit 20% at 80 peril

zealous wing
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it does

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@ripe obsidian NERD

ripe obsidian
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It doesn't

zealous wing
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YOU SAID IT DID

buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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unstable power i know does cap at 80

ripe obsidian
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@hearty wolf log in

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:(

hearty wolf
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OK

buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
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Ask to play then don't log in

hearty wolf
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I OTW

zealous wing
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smh

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irresponsible gamer

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pings for game, not just asks, PINGS

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for SHAME! kekw

ripe obsidian
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I thought my build was EK LMB

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it was

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voidblast

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this explains much

zealous wing
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lol

hearty wolf
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I am a dodge tank btw

zealous wing
hearty wolf
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But you won't see me

zealous wing
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fuckin GOOBER

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not as bad as me bringing the wrong knife

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but fuckin funny

ripe obsidian
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I was like, why is my damage output so low?

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What's going on?

zealous wing
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they should make EK projectiles a different colour than traumas, and VS's different as well tbh

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all three are the same

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SPEAKING OF

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one is trauma, one is voidestrike

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fatshark

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PLEASE

hardy citrus
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seems simple enough

zealous wing
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yeah but which ones which

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hmm?

hardy citrus
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well I've never used either

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so

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you could show me two entirely distinct pictures and iw ouldnt be able to tell u

zealous wing
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i just dont

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understand their idea here

hardy citrus
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i mean

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whilst yes it's stupid

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does it matter?

zealous wing
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it bothers

hardy citrus
white sky
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There's 700 things they should fix before that I'm ngl

hardy citrus
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pugs make me want to shoot myself

hardy citrus
zealous wing
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idk rot feels fine

hardy citrus
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rotten is aids

zealous wing
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a lil bullshitty

hardy citrus
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it's incredibly unfun

zealous wing
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its the same way you deal with a CIVI mael

hardy citrus
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It also does like 3 things at once

white sky
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I'm not even talking about subjective stuff I'm ngl

hardy citrus
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CIVI?

zealous wing
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meleespam maelstrom

hardy citrus
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I mean rotten itself could be fine but dont make it apply to fucking everything and be such a huge damage number AND increase armour spawns

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oh scab melee only?

zealous wing
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crushers, maulers, ragers, bulwarks

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some ranged scattered about

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no ammo drops

hardy citrus
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yeah but they dont have havoc hp numbers or huge damage reduc

zealous wing
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meh

hardy citrus
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scab melee only is fun

zealous wing
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the DR decreases as they lose hp, and DoT isnt affected

buoyant maple
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they shud make dot affected and melee unaffected

hardy citrus
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^

zealous wing
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this i do agree

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let me stab them freely

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especially since they made the sound more fun

hardy citrus
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i like the sound rotten enemies make yep

zealous wing
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they should probably have made it a mael modifier before trying it in havoc tho

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it was already an event so it shouldnt have been too hard to implement that way

hardy citrus
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i mean in the event it was ranged only rioght

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the dr i mean

zealous wing
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yeah but the DR stopped decreasing at 80%

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also it was more iirc?

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it was very early in my playtime

hardy citrus
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bro make them fucking immune to ranged damage for all i care just dont make it also turn melee off 😭

zealous wing
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that would actually be hilarious

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make arby brittle shotgun useless

frail tapir
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alright yeah I prefer BCoB

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you do stay at higher peril without it, but that means you barely get to use psyker powers, which is the entire point. I may joke about making my psyker build just Zealot with FGS, but if I was wanting to basically not engage with the peril system I would actually just go play zealot

zealous wing
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scriers, warp unbound

hardy citrus
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yeah scriers

zealous wing
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11.5s infinite casting

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5s or less waiting for cooldown, pop again

hardy citrus
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even without it you can weave an assail throw or two into your melee clear to keep ur malefic up

frail tapir
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ok I do not find scriers coming off cooldown that frequently

thorn geyser
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ok is psyker worth maxing

zealous wing
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do you have psykinetics aura

thorn geyser
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im very new

zealous wing
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yes

hardy citrus
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scriers only has like a 14 second downtime even before cooldown reduction

buoyant maple
frail tapir
thorn geyser
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i got the little needles and their fucking lethal

buoyant maple
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too op actually

frail tapir
patent jacinth
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Just because its pve doesn't mean balance is irrelevant

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its such a dumb take

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The game wouldn't be fun if you could w+m1 everything

ripe obsidian
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we have a free slot

hardy citrus
hardy citrus
ripe obsidian
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EU for those two

hardy citrus
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HUGE

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1 sec

ripe obsidian
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I am NA, so I am lagging

hardy citrus
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i am not na so i will not be lagging pepepoint

frail tapir
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tell me, what is point of video game

hardy citrus
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saying balance doesnt matter in pve

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is such a terrible terrible take

frail tapir
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I'm not saying it doesn't matter, I'm saying psyker is not powerful enough for it to matter

hardy citrus
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yes they are

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lol

frail tapir
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the point of games is enjoyment. Is your experience genuinely being detracted from because of psyker?

buoyant maple
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if psyker isn't op, who is

buoyant maple
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psyker / ranged hvs / rumbler spam og on team makes the game unfun

frail tapir
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idk skill issue then I guess

buoyant maple
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on ur part maybe

frail tapir
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yeah maybe I'm having too much fun with the game

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I should be complaining more

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man I'm getting too heated srry bout that

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people can have opinions

buoyant maple
frail tapir
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psyker could defintely be better balanced

thorn geyser
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i named my psyker MrJohnChaos any opinions?

buoyant maple
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it's ok to enjoy playing psyker / playing with psyker on team and also understand how broken psyker's kit is

frail tapir
thorn geyser
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if thats a thing

hardy citrus
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thats every psyker build

thorn geyser
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shit

buoyant maple
thorn geyser
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i havent done much with buildcraft in this game yet but im sure i will the firther i get

hardy citrus
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LOL

buoyant maple
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there are many ways u can "edge to the goon god"

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but the end goal is the same

thorn geyser
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what is edging if you dont let it fly every once in awhile. hence why i suicide bomb sometimes

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call me socrates

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what ranged do yall use

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i want to like tje staff but i dont

buoyant maple
thorn geyser
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thats what im sayin

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it gives the edge meaning

zealous wing
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reconlas, voidblast, ek surge surge

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vraks infauto

buoyant maple
thorn geyser
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this has been very informative

zealous wing
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there is a guide in the pins

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bonanza

foggy shoal
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revolver good for melee/gunker?

plucky flax
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I have to go bed gg

ripe obsidian
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Seeya

hearty wolf
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Gg was really fun

plucky flax
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Range scum moment

hardy citrus
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gg

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that was good

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yous were moving so fast I kept almost getting left behind kekW

plucky flax
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Just run to enemies shooters and ee spam

hearty wolf
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wait

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was that you

hardy citrus
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im not used to teams that can do that

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yes

hearty wolf
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LOL

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I didn't know

ripe obsidian
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I has having some really severe frame hitching

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Things kept freezing for like 0.2 seconds, then the map state was different

hearty wolf
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Idk if you can tell but I just run past (kill everything directly in my way) and then get behind the gunners and bulwarks

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makes them a joke

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Or I kill the bulwarks by pushing them into you then walking behind them

hardy citrus
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getting behind the bulwarks is good yeah

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i fucking hate bulwarks Despairge

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
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yeah that was fast though

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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35m for consignment yard when we almost had 2 wipes

hardy citrus
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I only sandbagged a little pepepoint

hearty wolf
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the part where you go down the stairs towards the toilets

ripe obsidian
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I was 100% sure I dodged that

hardy citrus
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I should've mentioned i was running for a piss first, I would've taken even less damage

hearty wolf
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I thought you did as well but the solo crusher kill did some mental damage

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
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bluetooth crusher overheads

hearty wolf
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We did really poor with nades that run

hardy citrus
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I thought i'd be faster tbh

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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Agent and I both spammed and then went for the same tin (I did call it but I was gonna run back to the further one before I realised Agent was also using rockets)

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we wasted about 16 rockets lmao

hearty wolf
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It's like

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idk

hardy citrus
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I got some weird frame hitching in league today

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never had it before

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darktide has been ok

hearty wolf
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PC 2 when?

hardy citrus
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are u NAE or NAW?

ripe obsidian
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I am NAE, technically. More central. But that was the EU server

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So like 60 ping to 160

hardy citrus
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I mean I think it's generally not too bad?

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I've played on NAW and NAE with ainz a bit

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I find it's ok once I get used to it

ripe obsidian
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Like I said, I was being a doofus even before accounting for ping

frozen zephyr
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I have wierd bug, I have the right tree crit psyker build and its only going in game with brain burst venting shriek

hearty wolf
frozen zephyr
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I'm level 30

hardy citrus
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if you've not selected anything it'll turn everything in the tree above it off

frozen zephyr
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I have a video

hardy citrus
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yes but have you selected it

frozen zephyr
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yes

hardy citrus
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not sure then

frozen zephyr
hardy citrus
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maybe try restting game or delete the uh

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delete the loadout and recreate it

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u should swap by crack of bone for maleific momentum too probably

plucky flax
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Laptop gamer?

frozen zephyr
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yes

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I bought it for my travelling job

plucky flax
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Me too I play on laptop sometimes its so ass

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But i travel a lot

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I need a permanent wfh job

ripe obsidian
frozen zephyr
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game restart fixed it

hardy citrus
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turn it off, turn it on again.

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true classic.

hearty wolf
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Failure to keep track of anything means you just die. The hardest thing is rampage's timer

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Oh wait Syllo linked me a mod for that

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I was looking at it but didn't install it yet

ripe obsidian
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It was also the curse of playing with someone new. Every single time I play with someone I haven't before, I play worse.

ripe obsidian
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No defense and pretty limited CC, since it was mostly my Trauma + Shriek, and only on non-red enemies

hardy citrus
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well

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I was playing melee

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and I feel like melee ends up pretty tanky kekW

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but yeah, not a lot of teamwide utility there

hardy citrus
ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
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yeah that was a good run

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i feel like we pretty much steamrolled it

ripe obsidian
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I picked Trauma to try to offer us some CC, but I didn't account for everything dying before I could charge RMB, ha

hardy citrus
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2 psyker 2 scum has an abundance of a single thing kekW

ripe obsidian
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Sin and Agent are both consistently very good players

hearty wolf
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I'm usually pretty dogshit but that game was something else

hardy citrus
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I do alright for myself I think

hearty wolf
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I think changing to the rpg fixed my problems

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i.e I don't give a shit about pathing or where I am

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
hardy citrus
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i was just tryna keep up kekW

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
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I'm used to normal teams being incredibly slow and taking ages to start moving after hordes and events

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but you guys were just plowing forward

hearty wolf
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I legit fail all my games outside premades

hardy citrus
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it's kinda painful

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i mean generally i think pugs have bad winrates

ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
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I wanna hit assignment 40 so I can just absolutely plow through shjit and not give a single fuck if i fail

hardy citrus
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regardless it's a good problem to havbe

hearty wolf
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I mean I did used to literally win all my games but the way to go about it is always some form of CC or support ability

ripe obsidian
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Your speed was fine

hearty wolf
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i.e nuncio

ripe obsidian
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I mean 50+ minute slow

hardy citrus
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33

ripe obsidian
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Not too far

hardy citrus
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nah

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but ive been there for weeks

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i get to 35 then drop to 30 and repeat

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it'd probably go faster if I stopped qing exclusively for 40's more or less

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but not gonna do that kekW

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best way to improve

hearty wolf
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which I now have a solution to

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Also the uhh

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Weakspot damage I have now

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instead of poison melee

pure plinth
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i have a feeling rotten armor artificially inflates the win/lose rate

hearty wolf
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it's boosting hypercritial+hyper violence damage a lot

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and makes killing crushers possible

pure plinth
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but its repetitive and attention-grindingly boring to constantly play it

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so i might not be right

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
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rotten armour makes me loose more because after a while I get bored and start shutting down

hearty wolf
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I kinda wish they didn't explode into a cloud

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it offers nothing and just worsens visibility

hardy citrus
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I typically either use flamer zealot or krak vet, but im planning to try frag vet when im next forced to play rotten

hardy citrus
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idk, this si part of why i hate rotten

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it messes my timings up on normal crushers

hardy citrus
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only way to handle rotten

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only way that doesn't make me want to eat an overhead irl*

pure plinth
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"Ah you think DOT spam is your ally? You merely adopted the DOT. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the DPS until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but DOT!"

acoustic jacinth
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are ethereal shards doing much for you when you already have warp splitting?

hearty wolf
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so I have to "adapt" my build or just afk

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neither of which I want to do

hardy citrus
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goo mandates a crate scum or beacon zealot

hearty wolf
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I don't think beacon zealot would be enough anymore because of how aggro I have been lately

hardy citrus
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yeah beacon doesnt help if ur sitting in goo

hearty wolf
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I tried using the stimm clears corruption on kill on scum and that was dogshit xd

hardy citrus
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it just means u dont need to worry if u touch it

hearty wolf
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yeye

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There's enough shit on the ground to look at

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That's my other role in that comp

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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To kill anything that falls on the floor from voidblast before it fucks people

acoustic jacinth
acoustic jacinth
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immaculate timing

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my weathered fingers took a moment

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fighting games AND darktide are unhealthy to my hands

jovial juniper
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Base Assail will hit 2 targets

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Ethereal Shard makes it 3

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Warp Splitting makes it 3 with the slightest amount of peril

acoustic jacinth
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but on psykhanium i cant tell

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im doing the same with warp splitting and warp splitting + ethereal

jovial juniper
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There's an EP Warp Splitting Ethereal

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It's like

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13 targets total

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We used to have a table for that

acoustic jacinth
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but that's better spent in malefic momentum anyways

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and well KF BB is superior but funny build so i dont get bored KCDragor

ripe obsidian
hexed cape
ripe obsidian
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I think the Assail cleave node is fine to pick, but not particularly great

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There are both better and worse uses for the point

ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
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i mean if i played exclusively with pres i think it'd be easy

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but randoms are a mixed bag

ripe obsidian
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It was randoms for me

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Just good luck I guess

hardy citrus
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nobody accepts my psyker Despairge

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idk why tbh

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i have no issue on vet or zealot

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i guess my builds on both are more mainstream though

ripe obsidian
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Psyker is too strong when played well, and a lot of people play poorly and just die

hardy citrus
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yeah

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it's a shame because meleeker is really fun

hexed cape
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bfgs looks fun af

hardy citrus
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i have no particular attachment to fgs

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I honestly probably prefer the regular force swords too

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but it's the combination

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there's a LOT of melee weapons i prefer over fgs tbh

acoustic jacinth
hexed cape
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im starting a psyker up tonight. mostly like the bfgs cause of it's partitioned combos.

light spam for sweeping hordes, heavy for elites. tingles my brain right

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no need to h1 l2 special h3 l4 special or some wacky moveset weaving

hardy citrus
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most weapons in this game are incredibly easy to use

acoustic jacinth
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Mk8 is more like that, mk6 fgs does have some tricks but not necessary

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Like, qq repeat light 1 is exceptional horde clear

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Its push followup is a dead horizontal light which is also really good

hardy citrus
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lol

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i forget which mark it is

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the one with the stab

acoustic jacinth
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I believe it's just l1

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But that's also fine

hardy citrus
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it's probably faster with l1 but

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like

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you can macro it i guess

acoustic jacinth
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To put it simply

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With traditional l1 l2

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The l2 is the one u looking for

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Which is achieved via qq l1

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But

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Yes

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Annoying

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Which is why idgaf and i just l1 l2 bc l1 l2

hardy citrus
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i just do like

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l1-3 then block and keep swinging

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it's not ideal

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but fuck qq spam

acoustic jacinth
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Yeahhh

steel canopy
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does anybody know how much of a difference kinetic ressonance actually makes?

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the 75% charge time reduction seems negligable to me

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does anyone have actual numbers to compare?

steel canopy
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ty ty

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so am i understanding this right, using brain rupture will give me a ten second buff that increases charge speed by 75% as well as the 50% reduction in peril generation?

granite stratus
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Activating your ability gives you the buff

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Venting shriek, telekine shield, or scrier's gaze

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The buff is pretty substantial, as it lets you pick off a lot more enemies in a shorter amount of time

foggy shoal
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shred vs riposte for force greatsword?

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and am i supposed to be spamming assail after i hit 100 peril with scrier's gaze?

acoustic jacinth
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Shred

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Synergyzes with soyker better

acoustic jacinth
ripe obsidian
foggy shoal
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ok thanks guys

acoustic jacinth
# ripe obsidian Preference. I like Shred.

Man. I really wish assail shriek EK worked as well as i'd want it to lmao. You think it's worth investing time into or should i just keep to old KF? I don't know if it can keep up once i start havoc runs again

ripe obsidian
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I think Assail and Shriek kinda overlap in the horde clear and stagger role. One of the reasons I like Shriek is because it means I can use LMB EK and BB and not get overrun by hordes

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And Assail just generates peril so quickly

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You end up having to choose between EK or Assail for any given engagement

marble crater
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Shriek my beloved

acoustic jacinth
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It's like

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Shriek is already snowballing everything

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All i need are a few gunner pops with m2

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And killfeed explosion

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Meanwhile shriek is just kinda there

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And literally does the same thing

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Just pierces more and does less damage lol

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Well ill put the lid on that then, thanks

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My spare point is just going to momentum for more fgs bonks

mighty shuttle
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How important is the rending talent for inferno staff? I play full melee psyker FGS but I've been thinking about picking up a staff to get some utility in on the side. Since I have assail for ranged pick offs

ripe obsidian
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It's bad

acoustic jacinth
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Uh oh inferno pots

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TANNER HELLO

mighty shuttle
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wait sorry

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I had a severe brain fart there

ripe obsidian
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I only pick PotS on Trauma

acoustic jacinth
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🗣️

mighty shuttle
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I meant voidblast

acoustic jacinth
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Yes

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Voidblast pots is great

ripe obsidian
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Oh, on Voidblast it's good

mighty shuttle
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pots?

restive slate
ripe obsidian
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Voidblast RMB has 80% ADMs on Flak and Carapace

ripe obsidian
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So you get full value from PotS

mighty shuttle
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Is there ideal blessings for voidblast with melee psyker?

ripe obsidian
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I think Ainz uses... Flurry and surge? Maybe?

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His build is in the guide

mighty shuttle
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Wait I saw PotS

ripe obsidian
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Voidblast + SG

mighty shuttle
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I don't have space for that in my build

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I'm asking which staffs is reliant on Pots or not

ripe obsidian
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Are you asking about PotS or Rending Shockwave?

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No staff is reliant on PotS. PotS is good on Voidblast. It is not good on any other staff imo

mighty shuttle
acoustic jacinth
mighty shuttle
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This is my build

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I was thinking of picking up staff alongside my FGS

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But I'm not sure what is complementary or bad fit depending on talent mix, I have limited insight on staffs overall

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Since I kinda play Psyker like mini-zealot

acoustic jacinth
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There's a bit to dissect here

acoustic jacinth
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Thing is

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If youre gonna do that

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Go full meleeker

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Trying to find weird middle ground always hurts

ripe obsidian
acoustic jacinth
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Fair

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I wouldnt tbh xd

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I run what you run on guide

mighty shuttle
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Fair enough, I just thinking "Huh, my secondary weapon has always been super negligible because I can alternate between melee FGS and assail. So maybe grabbing a staff that has a use case/niche for some utility could be good.

ripe obsidian
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Ainz is one of those players who is good enough to make anything look OP

acoustic jacinth
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I mean

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Fatmangus

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Is great build

restive slate
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Even Voidstrike?

acoustic jacinth
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But not innovation of the century

acoustic jacinth
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I mean, he recently solod h40 with fatmangus (tank) zealot

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Under 2 hours

restive slate
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Darktide? More like a LightRipple

acoustic jacinth
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So you must make the distinction of
Is build actually good
Or is ainz just doing his usual work with it

ripe obsidian
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So yeah

mighty shuttle
acoustic jacinth
hexed cape
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psyker is rolled up. time to go level to 9 or whatever i need to unlock the weapons i wanna use

restive slate
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Nerf Ainz to play with only keyboard

acoustic jacinth
mighty shuttle
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Mhm which I do often do with assail instead because of maelfic momentum

acoustic jacinth
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Everthing else is actively screwing with your focus as meleeker

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Because it's like

mighty shuttle
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Fair, there's just been situations where I had to stay away from melee or set up a bit and thought "Hrm I wonder if having inferno suppress would be neat here."

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But as I said, super niche

acoustic jacinth
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Yeah

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Assail isnt the best at very long ranges and doesnt posses the quick target execution of say a bistol
Which is why they good choices

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For meleeker that is

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But at the end of the day the fun of experimental builds is seeing how far you can take them

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If you don't start feeling pressured/annoyed and are doing well keep using it

#

Just know that randoms on havoc will be judgmental af of such builds unfortunately. Psyker nowadays is a roulette of "shield?!??!?!"

hexed cape
#

holy crap psyker is fragile

steady pecan
#

fragile but capable of dealing a shit ton of damage

radiant frigate
#

fragile perhaps, but in the words of the savant?
SUCH POWER
SUCH POWER

marble crater
#

As long as you deal damage and kill things you are immortal, ymmv

steady pecan
#

as long as the damage dealers are dead, who is going to hurt you?

marble crater
#

My team

steady pecan
#

I mean at a certain point the psyker is really a stealth class

#

if you kill all the witnesses then who is going to report you

hexed cape
#

i feel like im dieing to a stiff breeze

steady pecan
#

need to take some toughness reduction perks to help with that

mighty shuttle
#

Ngl I feel more durable on psyker vs hivescum for some reason haha

steady pecan
#

fr

#

hive scum is super weak

marble crater
mighty shuttle
#

They're quite frail in lot of ocntexts but monstrously strong damage blitz class

hexed cape
mighty shuttle
#

Oh yeah that's absolutely expected

marble crater
#

Well KEKW_ogryn

#

Leveling psyker is a pain, but there is a build in the pinned guide that makes it less painful, good luck

hexed cape
#

i just want me zshwoop zshwoop greatsword XP

radiant frigate
#

"oh boy this class is so squishy at level 1"

hexed cape
#

sush

radiant frigate
#

you're telling me others are tanky with zero talents?

hexed cape
#

i dont wanna hear it

#

yes

marble crater
#

Ogryn chadgryn

hexed cape
#

ogryn and arbite can face tank shit level 1

radiant frigate
#

too late i already said it

hexed cape
#

hivescum is very fast

marble crater
#

smh

radiant frigate
#

ogryn and arbites are imperial propaganda

hexed cape
#

i havent played zealot or vet XP

hardy citrus
#

literally just base stats

foggy shoal
#

i feel like dodges have to be more on point when playing psyker coming from VoC vet

#

can't just replenish my whole toughness bar whenever i get a booboo

hardy citrus
#

play melee and generate insane toughness

foggy shoal
#

yeah i'm playing scrier's gaze right now

#

i find it more enjoyable than inferno

hardy citrus
#

i mean yeah

#

inferno isnt necessarily fun

#

just strong

#

i think inferno is ok to play

foggy shoal
#

yeah it's decent

hardy citrus
#

but it's not super interesting really

foggy shoal
#

satisfying, if nothing else

hardy citrus
#

yeah

#

i prefer flamer

#

less investment for it, very powerful and i get a big powerful melee to hit things over the head with

foggy shoal
#

im in love with the getsuga tenshou

hardy citrus
#

the big swing is more use than most weapon specials

#

so i have no complaints

foggy shoal
#

i've done up to auric maelstrom with scrier's gaze, but i've heard it's pretty difficult to execute well in high havoc

hardy citrus
#

ehhh

#

it's more work than other builds perhaps

#

but I dont think it's too too bad

foggy shoal
#

more micromanagement than inferno for sure

acoustic jacinth
foggy shoal
#

yeah

hardy citrus
#

If u listen closely, u can hear the irreparable damage i must've done to my F key there kekW

acoustic jacinth
# foggy shoal yeah

Fairly up there tbh. Don't underestimate the survivability and damage you achieve with 25 stacks of DD + SG

#

You've got tons of meleeker examples around if ur curious

foggy shoal
#

nice

#

i'm just using the intro to meleeker build in the pin

acoustic jacinth
#

Nice

foggy shoal
#

will probably tailor it more to my playstyle soon

acoustic jacinth
#

Yeah

#

Pins guides are best spot for you to be picking stuff up from anyways

#

Way better than youtube/gameslantern

foggy shoal
#

i figured

#

was the same with veteran

#

pinned guide always > youtube

acoustic jacinth
#

Ye hammer of the emperor

#

Zealot has ainz's compendia

foggy shoal
#

all the class chats have been very helpful as well

#

everyone is eager to help within a reasonable degree

acoustic jacinth
#

Yeah course

marble crater
#

Because it's coop and nobody wants to end up with bad teammates chadgryn

foggy shoal
#

indeed

#

i'm mainly trying not to go down a whole bunch

#

it's been going well

marble crater
#

Not going down is easy, simply don't get hit

acoustic jacinth
#

Most importantly be brave though

#

Youve literally nothing to lose

foggy shoal
#

oh for sure

acoustic jacinth
#

So if you feel like doing something

#

Go do it try it

foggy shoal
#

my bloodlust leads me

acoustic jacinth
#

Yeeeeessss

foggy shoal
#

but need to be alive to purge heretics

mighty shuttle
#

Also

acoustic jacinth
#

I start giggling a little too when my seer psyker blows up the killfeed and starts going into maniacal laughter

mighty shuttle
#

Someone told me about empathetic evasion being must have for meleeker, but I don't think I really have any points left for it

#

Unless I've been mislead, but I've been doing without it for most part

foggy shoal
#

empathic really helps with the ranged spam

buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
#

Spam F and pray

mighty shuttle
#

Just curious what other meleekers removes to make that work

hardy citrus
#

"nah I'm fucked"

ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
#

"I'm gonna blow myself up in my first game with these people"

#

"Can't ever play with them again"

ripe obsidian
#

I also know this feeling

foggy shoal
mighty shuttle
#

It's pretty nice to have though

foggy shoal
#

it is for sure

mighty shuttle
#

4 dodges on FGS instead of 3

ripe obsidian
#

Anticipation is never necessary, but always nice to have.

hardy citrus
#

ive started using it and really like it personally

foggy shoal
#

same

#

it's the one thing i put on when i feel like im dying a lot

#

mobility is always nice

#

i still think empathic evasion would be worth taking something else off for though

#

it's just so nice when the game throws a horde of gunners your way

#

darn i can't exactly share images yet

#

but the guide says it's super free with all the crit we get

marble crater
ripe obsidian
#

EE is amazing

mighty shuttle
#

Yeah just that I've been getting by without it generally

#

So I think I'll stick without it

#

(Not insuniating that people are using it as crutch, but rather the adjustment in playstyle with musclememory with EE is probably jarring to drop on and off)

ripe obsidian
#

It's not that bad imo

#

I use EE on EK and Inferno, don't on Trauma

hearty wolf
#

Also where are the other melee Scum anyway? I'm yet to see a single one

proper spoke
#

I used to use it. A lot of fun being a living blender

hardy citrus
ripe obsidian
#

They usually do very well

hardy citrus
#

I need to redownload scoreboard tbh

#

Tracking what I’m doing will hopefully let me improve my play

ripe obsidian
#

Mayhaps it will

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Causing it, if nothing else.

ornate hamlet
#

Crowbar bonk

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Gonna be honest, I didn't think the details through past the initial joke

ornate hamlet
#

At least he's honest

ripe obsidian
#

Honesty is the best policy, as they say

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

I am probably the reverse, if I had to pick

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Depends on the day

#

Hard to be Slaaneshi when depressed

deft stump
ornate hamlet
#

I am uhhh the uhhh

#

Salamander with a blood angel streak?

knotty saddle
#

whats the most fun psyker build

wooden sand
knotty saddle
#

I really like assail and active staffs. not like inferno staff

frail oar
#

Las Pistol Knife Brain burst telekine wall empowered psionics

wooden sand
knotty saddle
#

I have enough guns on the other classes

frail oar
#

Gundalf does not recognize the authority of staffs

restive slate
#

Psyker be getting a new staff by next update

#

No more buffs to Scryier Gaze pls

ornate hamlet
#

Shotgun staff

#

Slug alt-fire

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

Tried to play melee scum. Got overheaded twice. I think my brain is just not having Darktide today

vagrant sail
plucky flax
#

Melee scummer moment

ripe obsidian
#

this close to a 0 damage taken run

#

a random bruiser poked me

#

@hardy citrus sometimes I am not a doofus when I play

zealous mango
#

Or small sword

restive roost
#

Yeah

#

Channeling the warp, am I right, siblings?

zealous mango
#

Gotta keep switching channels until you find the warp

ripe obsidian
#

I think half the damage I took this game was from blight

#

the other half was me being a dummy. I made some very questionable choices with positioning that led to me being separated

#

And gettin' bullied

acoustic jacinth
ripe obsidian
#

Blazing Voidblast is fun. It's just easy to get overwhelmed by scab ragers

#

which is weird to say on Voidblast

#

But if like 10 of them rush you from the side or behind, you can't really get an RMB off because they keep bonking

#

Well, dreg ragers are worse, but still

#

For some reason I get overrun less often on EK or Inferno. Might just be a me issue

#

Or my fault for playing when I am very tired

acoustic jacinth
#

I know what you mean. In such cases i just kick my fingers on overdrive and spam the life outta tap quell min cast xd

ripe obsidian
#

oh, I was accidentally using my superiority sword instead of deflector

#

that doesn't help

#

Since I don't use EE on that build, and because I don't spam push attack to build uncanny stacks, I don't find superiority useful when using trauma

zealous wing
ripe obsidian
#

those were very polite crushers

restive roost
zealous wing
#

blazing trauma, yes

restive roost
#

Blast staff is M2 spam right?

#

I have one leveled up but I don't use it often.

#

I leveled it up using it as a sidearm for melee scryer

zealous wing
#

M1 for ranged enemies you cant reach with m2

#

and monstrosities and such to get firestacks up

hoary mauve
#

Ive a noob question on poxbursters. Does inferno staff m1 stagger them in a safe way, or should I just push them like I usually do when using other ranged? Had a match where someone said people were shooting poxbursters and exploding him, but IDK if it was me accidentally doing it. I basically started running away / dodging back in case it was me.

cold ivy
#

in a just and fair universe, inferno staff m1 would always stagger poxbursters in a safe way

#

but our universe is neither so i advise swapping to melee and pushing twice (you can push a poxburster multiple times to get it even further away, iirc an almost point-blink burster in its detonation phase can be avoided with triple or quadruple push + backdodge)

cold ivy
#

when i use inferno, m1 works like 60% of the time

obtuse dome
#

Unless u can make sure they dont explode on you

cold ivy
#

it's not worth gambling with your life

obtuse dome
#

Not just for you also for your team its just safer to shove.

#

For example if your teammate allready damaged it m1 might make it blow up in your face.

#

Especially with brain burst.

cold ivy
#

i think fatshark patched kinetic flayer so that it no longer triggers on bursters

#

but still

obtuse dome
#

Pretty sire it does

cold ivy
#

swap to melee and push is the most reliable option barring something like vet shout

obtuse dome
#

Not sure why it wouldnt count on burster.

cold ivy
#

i think this is up to date/accurate, at least personally i've never seen it happen post-patch

zealous wing
#

the only time it will kill them, is if someones already hurt it a ton and that little bit of fire finishes it off

zealous wing
hearty wolf
#

I crave more knowledge

#

Like whether it's better to heavy monstrosities with my attack speed or not

quiet pond
#

What should I focus on/level up in the skill tree for this class?

#

I have no idea what to do, I feel like im a walking tazer

verbal thistle
quiet pond
#

Fu-

verbal thistle
#

For a short answer (that is also found in the pins) is go assail (while leveling it's the fastest) and make sure to keep your peril high ish to maintain buffs like damage increase and damage reduction

#

The 2nd part only applies if you have the talents at mid to high level (my guess is around 14-30) is when you'll get these buffs

quiet pond
#

I see, because I still don’t get how the peril death thing works

#

I’ve gotten to 100 and not died so

#

Im confused

hardy citrus
verbal thistle
#

If you get to 100% and then use more you die

deft stump
verbal thistle
#

100% is fine just dont use anything then

quiet pond
#

So I can keep hitting 100% as long as I don’t go over?

verbal thistle
#

Yeah

deft stump
#

Try to quell when you hit 90%.

#

It's okay to edge around 60% when new.

#

More lee way.

verbal thistle
#

A good habit to build is tapping r (quell idk for controller) when high peril, often 90% or higher

deft stump
#

Slowly go up to edging around 80%.

verbal thistle
#

Being around 60-80 peril is the best state for a psyker to be. Benefits from peril buffs and is safe to use any magic

quiet pond
#

Is there a way to reduce the amount of peril generated? I feel like the lightning generates a lot in general

verbal thistle
#

There are a few

#

But I notice you are using smite while leveling and seem to be having trouble, no?

hollow summit
#

Smyker in training

#

Kill it before it lays eggs

verbal thistle
#

I find it quite annoying that new psykers are pulled into smite so early

#

They get a false idea of the ability, the class, how enemies work, what "support" is, and more

deft stump
verbal thistle
#

It's such a bad thing for new players to find

hollow summit
#

I was interested in it because sith lord memes

verbal thistle
#

I was a victim of it too

hollow summit
#

But the ability in practice is just sleep inducing

deft stump
#

I just never liked it. Spammed bees more lul.

hollow summit
#

At least I found out ek is good and fun

hearty wolf
#

@hardy citrus @ripe obsidian @plucky flax is gaming planned for later?

quiet pond
#

What do you recommend I swap it for?

verbal thistle
#

Assail

quiet pond
#

Is that the one that pops heads?

verbal thistle
#

Throwing rocks

#

Is assail

quiet pond
#

Oh that one

verbal thistle
#

This is amazing for leveling

#

Since lower difficulty rarely has a lot of carapace enemies

#

And assail destroyes unarmored enemies

#

Smite is a huge noob trap too

#

Main things is that it does bad damage and creates bab habits

quiet pond
#

I see I see

#

What about the staffs?

#

I have no idea what im doing with em

verbal thistle
#

I wouldn't use until you are maxed

quiet pond
#

Ahh alright

verbal thistle
#

Staffs shine when fully maxed weapon and talent tree

#

And most of them scale with difficulty

#

The more enemies the better

#

So 2 major downsides using them while leveling

#

But try them out for fun if you want

#

Nothing stops you

quiet pond
#

Thanks!

#

What about ability?

#

Like there’s a shield and the other things

verbal thistle
#

While learning I think shriek would be the best

#

Bubble helps too but learning how to respect ranged enemies should be learned early

#

Knowing line of sights. Sliding. And just how to maintain gunner lines are good to learn early

#

But if you like bubble go for it

#

A note for shirek. If you are dying to peril (hands on head about to explode) using shriek saves you

quiet pond
#

I didn’t know that

#

Pretty cool

verbal thistle
#

Gaze is a little complicated to use early but also has the save from peril like shirek

#

Gaze can be broken down into. Gain peril, while gaining peril you gain damage.

acoustic jacinth
hardy citrus
verbal thistle
quiet pond
verbal thistle
#

It's not that engaging for me. Gaze also is the 2nd shortest ability to it's a good combo for bb speed on ability use

zealous wing
verbal thistle
#

Plus a lot of other talents that do similar things

#

Some are damage reduction too

zealous wing
#

if you want a build to follow that uses assail and scriers to try out, mine in the build guide has proven good for leveling psyker, for myself and a few others

#

even if you cant grab the entire tree, and just grab as you go, it functions well enough

#

you can also just swap scriers for shriek or bubble, if you prefer either of those, its versatile

quiet pond
zealous wing
#

i suggest reading the description of the build as well

#

it will tell you what you need to know

quiet pond
#

I’ll keep that in mind!

acoustic jacinth
#

I get the engaging part uh, it does get repetetive

#

I wouldn't want to compare them to begin with, though i think shriek might still have the upper hand with blazing vb, due to how easy it is to stack sb on high density

frail osprey
#

Didn't realize how dangerous that heavy laspistol was on psykers

hoary mauve
quiet pond
#

Which aura is best for psyker as someone who is just starting out on em?

deft stump
quiet pond
#

Which one is that one, the middle one?

jovial juniper
#

Yuh

deft stump
#

Middle.

quiet pond
#

Kk, thanks!

deft stump
#

Left is elite damage, right is crits.

quiet pond
#

Gotchu

frail oar
#

The CDR is unique to psyker the others are either equivalent or worse versions of other auras.

#

Best for you and the team to take that unless there's another psyker running it already.

#

Speaking of which is anyone interested in doing some 2 psyker maelstroms?

idle plover
#

I forgot force sword had 12 blessings

#

Kinda ridiculous ammount for it specifically

quiet pond
#

Is the blaze force greatsword better or the normal sword?

marble crater
#

With the greatsword you trade having more damage for being less mobile, it can do horde and single target damage, while the normal ones are either or

#

If you want to use your melee as your main weapon, pick force greatsword
If you want to use your melee for the few situations where you need it, use normal sword
imo

hardy coral
#

Perfect strike blessing on Heavy sword combined with Charged strike is one of the dumbest yet amusing things to see a Bulwark just melt away when im not even trying to hit them in the hordes. ha

pure plinth
#

with the right build and blessings you can make the obscurus one shot crushers on auric

jovial juniper
#

And less mass = better charged strike

hardy coral
acoustic jacinth
#

Pretty solid minus the smite

hardy coral
restive slate
#

I use Smite to apply funny Heavy melee lightning

lean pivot
#

Smite is brain dead fun

Zap

hardy citrus
#

and u dont have to waste ur entire blitz on it

hardy coral
hardy citrus
#

idk if u should be running maleific momentum either

#

since idk if ur getting warp kills?

#

Does the heavy lightning count for that

deft stump
hardy coral
hardy citrus
#

then yeah no point running maleific

#

oh if that works

#

then nvm

zealous mango
#

I have done the most long time intense clutch as psyker out of all classes

#

5mins+ agaisnt nothing more than just scab hordes, mutie and hound waves with my little pocket knife

zealous wing
#

because there is a different buff slot for warp and nonwarp

#

and when i ran my tests, i got a nice whopping 14 blitz kills in a mission (the only one i remember that i didnt use the blitz at all except for charged strikes)

#

though the weapon i used, i dont remember, i think it was taxe, since taxe is mostly heavies

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
#

im guessing your match with them went poorly

ripe obsidian
#

Agent and Sin carried

zealous wing
#

so, from your POV, poorly

deft stump
zealous wing
#

also, the hivescum in the screenshot above makes me laugh

#

TL 1051

hearty wolf
plucky flax
#

I played poorly i got ledges by boss as always PeepoHappy

zealous wing
hearty wolf
#

Wtf no I'm not 😭

hearty wolf
#

Especially when people died on the event

zealous wing
#

res speed underappreciated perk

#

i have 2x

hearty wolf
#

Ye that's what I'm using too

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
#

That being said I think I let Six die once when I could have probably gotten him

icy breach
zealous wing
#

the probably is the keyword there

#

as in, you did the right thing

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
#

It's one of those where if the Reaper decides to turn around, I'm cooked

zealous wing
#

when in doubt, let die

hearty wolf
#

But sometimes it's worth the gamble if you're gonna die anyway but I never felt particular threatened

ripe obsidian
#

What's your melee scum build now?

wraith sphinx
ripe obsidian
#

Also, are you still H38?

hearty wolf
#

I believe so ya, I was 37 when we played yesterday I think since I forgot to update

zealous wing
#

:O

hearty wolf
#

I'm not on desktop but it was like the previous one except I'm not taking poison blitz

zealous wing
#

so you LIED :O

hearty wolf
#

And I just moved that to weak spot hits

hearty wolf
#

I find playing with randoms genuinely miserable

zealous wing
#

this is true

hearty wolf
#

Like I know how to win, I just need to not play like a twat and sit with them for ages

zealous wing
#

randoms right now, especially after the recent SF knife zealot duo, have made pubs in havoc very untrustworthy

icy breach
hearty wolf
#

But I'd rather be surrounded by gunners and disablers and constantly on death's door and making an impact that helps my team.

Rather than having to protect them from the average poxwalker

icy breach
zealous wing
#

200 people carried through an h40 clear, with no requirement other than a heresy maelstrom,

#

doesnt sound like a lot, but then you remember how small the game actually is

icy breach
hearty wolf
ripe obsidian
zealous wing
#

i heavily feel like they were intentionally drawing as much attention as possible, either to havoc, shroudfield, or the map

zealous wing
#

they had a specific map, i never popped in to see which, i forgot to

hearty wolf
zealous wing
#

they'll likely do it again when that same map comes up

zealous wing
#

they were speedrunning it, and said it was 10m per mission

ripe obsidian
#

Problem is, I want to experiment with non-Psyker stuff in H40, but my Psyker skill level is so far ahead of everything else. I can win on toxin scum and maybe melee scum, and I can win with Arby, but I am not able to turn around bad situations like I can when playing well on Psyker

zealous wing
#

so, hopefully fatshark paid attention and removes that map from the pool, like they did mercantile

zealous wing
#

but also, i hope they realise how dumb it is to show clear, instead of actual assignment rank

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
#

IS IT!?

#

WHY

icy breach
zealous wing
#

that would be the map then

ripe obsidian
#

I've been using EK and Trauma more often of late

zealous wing
#

or, one of them

#

you can skip mercantile in a way to not get any spawns at all until the end event

ripe obsidian
#

But I do use inferno as well. Only staff I don't use in H40 is Voidstrike

ripe obsidian
#

@humble skiff which map is it that you speedrun?

zealous wing
#

i even know how to do it 😭 its not even that hard to replicate for fatshark

deft stump
buoyant maple
#

Voidstrike got obliterated by true aim nerf

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
humble skiff
ripe obsidian
#

Curiosity

zealous wing
#

that makes sense

deft stump
buoyant maple
#

Sycorax is the easiest to solo / speedrun

ripe obsidian
#

Voidstrike also got wrecked by the Scab HP increases

zealous wing
#

yeah people suggest sycorax as one of the ones for fleshwound