#psyker-class

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ripe obsidian
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Peril management is easy enough

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And Shriek makes up for my mistakes

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Plus, with PotS on blazing trauma, I want to keep peril high

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For RMBs, mostly.

quick crystal
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do you prioritise toughness curios in havoc?

ripe obsidian
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Prior to revive curios being reworked, I did 2x 17% toughness, 1x 21% health, and 3x toughness, gunner resist, CDR. Now I am using either that or 3x 17% toughness and 3x gunner resist, 3x CDR, 1x 5% HP, 2x revive speed

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The 5% is just to get over 100 HP in Havoc so snipers and bursters can't instakill me

zinc phoenix
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You don’t like living on the edge?

thick delta
ripe obsidian
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But I can explain in a moment. Gotta get on my PC to type properly

thick delta
ripe obsidian
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Yeah, that one

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I need to add a "How to use this guide" section at the top

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Anyway

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My preferred curio setup for H40 is currently:

3x 17% toughness
3x gunner resist
3x CDR
2x revive speed
1x 5% health

This puts my at 106 health and like 129 toughness in Havoc 40. A burster or sniper will do 100 health damage, so this keeps me from getting one-shot by anything that isn't an overhead.

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And since I don't use any overall damage reduction nodes, only toughness damage reduction, more toughness means more life. Also, toughness blocks 100% of ranged damage, which is the thing most likely to kill me unless I do something goofy

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Prior to revive speed being made worthwhile, I used

2x 17% toughness
1x 21% health
3x 5% toughness
3x CDR
3x Gunner resist

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But revive speed now works on ledges, revives, rescues, nets, everything.

thick delta
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is corruption resist not used much anymore? I see lots of gunner resist and of course the CDR

ripe obsidian
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In an ideal game I never use revive speed. But very few games are ideal, and reviving someone 0.6 seconds faster can save a run

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Corruption resist is a fine pick. Preference, in my opinion. It's not trolling to pick it, but with things like Scum's corruption immunity, zealot's aura, and vet's corruption clear on medkits, it's not terribly necessary

thick delta
ripe obsidian
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Gunner resist is because gunners and reapers (both affected by the curio) spawn in very large numbers and can shred you in seconds from 100m away. 3x 20% resist is ~95% bonus survivability against them

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CDR is just because active abilities are strong and using them more often is good

thick delta
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I have been running one similiar to yours and this (screenshot). Seems to be pretty strong.

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Can i not post screenshots?

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Hobomancer build

ripe obsidian
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That is not a build I would personally run, but the guy who made it does play H40

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I've played with him a few times

thick delta
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Yeah, it feels a bit tankier, but i have been playing around with a few. I will give yours a couple of runs

ripe obsidian
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The one I posted most recently is for Voidblast

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I can give you an Inferno one if you want, or you can look at the ones in the guide

thick delta
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ah ok, i was going to ask about the quelling speed

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that makes sense with VB though

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i'm running flame staff atm with force sword

ripe obsidian
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Quell speed is always picked because the coherency radius one is just bad

thick delta
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for havoc 40 because people know to stay together or just in general?

ripe obsidian
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Just in general

thick delta
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i'm only at havoc 22 right now

ripe obsidian
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This is my Inferno + Shriek build

thick delta
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are you not a fan of Kinetic Deflection?

ripe obsidian
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Rituals out, Cranial Corruption in. Hooray.

ripe obsidian
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Used to be an easy pick when the small node above it was crit chance

thick delta
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thoughts on brittle and crushers with flame staff now? are you going warp?

ripe obsidian
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I don't think penetrating flame is worth it

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I do Blaze Away + Warp Nexus

thick delta
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prior to crusher health buff was brittle better?

ripe obsidian
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Note that Soulblaze has 100% or higher ADMs on everything but Carapace. Brittleness over 100% is 1/4 effectiveness, so maximum of 5% damage boost.

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So penetrating flames is almost entirely for your team. 10% boosted to 30% is still meaningless against crushers

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I don't think penetrating flames was ever really better than nexus, but it was a better pick before the crusher HP boost

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The current way to deal with armor walls with inferno is to swap to a force sword with Uncanny and spam push attacks

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@zealous wing I summon thee, oh Hexis, to post the video, please.

thick delta
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ok, i'm using uncanny to get rend out

ripe obsidian
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If your team isn't dealing with armor, at least. Ideally an Inferno psyker won't be the one dealing with crushers

nocturne dust
frozen whale
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Im running left click

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Uhh

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My fingers are killing me

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and my quell is garbo

nocturne dust
frozen whale
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Anyone whos familiar with macros able to help me

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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i read absolutely nothing

ripe obsidian
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It's like 250k in a 2.2m damage game

nocturne dust
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so not insignificant

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but I also haven't been playing much recently so something could've changed, and it doesn't work well against the anti-ranged modifier

zealous wing
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anti-range, anti-melee

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they fixed rotten armour to be both

nocturne dust
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dang, more reason to not play Havoc

zealous wing
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but they also fixed its damage resistance decline to scale with its HP

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meaning, the lower the HP the lower the resist

nocturne dust
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That seems like a DoT loving modifier

zealous wing
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they still take longer than normal crushers to kill, but yeah

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its like it was built to be killed by something like tox

zealous wing
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and made easier with something like the corruption immunity giving stim crate

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same lane as blight coming back

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
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It obviously depends on where you edge. Since I hover low, PF is an outright buff over nexus.

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The soulblaze lost isn't much if you tend to be around 50%. If you edge harder, Nexus gains a slight edge in terms of overall damage.

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But again, I haven't played in a while. Literally can't.

tiny kindle
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Is there a YouTube video that explains damage types like vs armor or vs enemy type

ripe obsidian
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Holy moly, I just had over 100 rot enemies in the first 6 minutes of a map

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we all died horribly

frozen whale
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Whatd you do to the director?

hearty river
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Is Disrupt Destiny any good? I just tried it and I couldn't get it past 10 stacks because it only popped up on an enemy once in a while.

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On Damnation I barely saw highlighted enemies.

zealous wing
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its great

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its one of the 2 good keystones

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but yeah, density might matter, bruisers and up are viable targets, groaners/poxxers aren't

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sometimes the RNG might also just bite you in the ass because it can

hearty river
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Wish it'd elaborate it can't be any enemy then.

zealous wing
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its fatshark

hearty river
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SO TRUE pookie

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🙏

zealous wing
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they cant even tell the truth on blessings or spellcheck talents

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regeneneration

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(psykinetics aura)

hearty river
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I just feel like I've wasted my time trying to use Disrupt Destiny.

zealous wing
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well, what kind of build are you running

hearty river
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Trying to run a melee + staff.

zinc phoenix
zealous wing
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meh

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empowered psionics is very lackluster

zinc phoenix
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Empower could be better, but is already pretty great

hearty river
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Was trying to see if I could stay in Scrier's Gaze as long as possible with Disrupt Destiny, which would've been the case I'd think if it Disrupt Destiny worked on any enemy not just specialists/elites.

zealous wing
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oh

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another one

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staying in scriers is cool and all, dont get me wrong here

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but its not needed

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and i use warp speed so i love staying in scriers

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but i use 0 quell on kill talents

hearty river
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That's fine and all, but that's you and not me, I want to stay in it as long as possible simply because it's more fun that way for me, plus I do literally nothing if I'm not.

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My Psyker no matter how much I try is just weak.

zealous wing
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interesting

hearty river
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Point being though, sad Disrupt Destiny didn't work out like I had hoped and like it had described.

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i love that for me <3

zealous wing
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what melee are you using?

hearty river
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Blaze Force Greatsword.

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It worked wonders on my other Psyker build, so I figured I didn't have a ton of reason to swap off of it.

zealous wing
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and the staff?

hearty river
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Voidstrike, wanted to use Voidblast but I didn't have a good one on hand.

zealous wing
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difficulty of choice? those are both good weapons

hearty river
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I mean that as in I didn't have an upgraded one, so it was lacking in damage.

zealous wing
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granted they need to be built properly, but a functional FGS is an easy carry-weapon

hearty river
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I also find staffs to be incredibly weak, I'm not sure how everyone else makes them looks so great.

zealous wing
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talents like warp rider, hover around 80 peril, free +20% damage, stuff like that

hearty river
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Funnily enough I saw that clip earlier while looking through these channels for fun (Seeing as I'm new to the server), and that's also partially why I'm annoyed that everyone else makes it seems so strong.

zealous wing
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well, i suppose its down to build

hearty river
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Didn't realize that was you that posted it.

zealous wing
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lol

hearty river
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Not doing good, I mean anything.

zealous wing
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it is odd, psyker has the most versatile options/build variety

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but there are some things that just dont mesh well together

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its possible you have some things conflicting, where it'd be better split into two seperate builds, or done without

hearty river
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My melee build for Psyker using Scrier's Gaze and Warp Siphon went wonderfully, only time I enjoyed playing Psyker a ton.

zealous wing
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slapping an FGS into a build as your sidearm does work, granted you lack great mobility, but it definitely works

hearty river
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Which, isn't super fair to Psyker because I was playing it like I was playing my Zealot (my main).

zealous wing
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force greatsword

hearty river
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Gotcha.

zealous wing
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could i see your build?

hearty river
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I'm guessing I have image perms?

zealous wing
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ah right Facepalm

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are you online?

hearty river
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YUH

zealous wing
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if i can have your fatshark code, i can see your build from ingame

hearty river
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3310579316

ripe obsidian
hearty river
ripe obsidian
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@dull scroll

O.O

zealous wing
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i will admit, it's definitely bits and pieces

hearty river
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It was supposed to be a mix of range and melee, I'm guessing doing that isn't possible really?

zealous wing
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you dont have warp rider, nor FGS unstable power, though, so those are two big damage items off the table as it is

hearty river
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Effectively anyways I should say.

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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this is mine

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that blessing, is the one im referring to when i said FS lie about blessings

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it stacks 4x

hearty river
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I see I sees...

zealous wing
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so, its 20% strength

hearty river
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This is ... So awesome.

zealous wing
hearty river
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Fatshark:

zealous wing
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we do have a build guide where six goes indepth on how things work

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but its also a ton of info all at once, so

hearty river
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The problem is I shouldn't need a guide just to make a build.

zealous wing
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they dont like metachasers

hearty river
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I should just be able to look at it and just know if I want to use it or not.

zealous wing
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same, tbh, it would make the game a whole lot more fair for people who arent digging into the code / hanging out here asking such questions

hearty river
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I'm not even trying to meta chase, I'm not trying to do Havoc with Psyker, I'm just trying to have fun.

zealous wing
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yeah

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that was just the reason they gave for lying in the first place

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instead they've made the info much more limited, to a much smaller group of people

hearty river
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sobs and vomits

zealous wing
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@ripe obsidian mister voidstrike

hearty river
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gulp...

zealous wing
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he's probably in a havoc already

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yup he gone, fuck

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he loves voidstrike, he'd be the best to figure out a mixed build

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i cant find the love for it myself yet

hearty river
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I can't find the love for Psyker myself yet.

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Only time I enjoyed it was when I was playing like a Zealot and not a Psyker LOL

zealous wing
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valid, the fun part tho is psyker can make a better zealot than zealot can :/

hearty river
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I'm sure.

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But I'm just a lil fury Zealot, which I just turned my Psyker into that basically.

zealous wing
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there's always my melee build, if you wanted to give something verified a shot to see if it outputs something more desirable, or if you want something with a stave, surge surge might be a good introduction point, then you can know what works, and go from there, rather than having no tangible starting point, or wait to see what six can cook up for you if he's up for it posthavoc

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not sure how limited on resources you are at this point, but i'd like to help somehow lol

hearty river
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I'm doing pretty fine resource-wise.

ripe obsidian
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What's up

zealous wing
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hi

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VS with FGS, how do

ripe obsidian
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I am currently dead because I am too tired to H40, ha

hearty river
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Only problem is Diamantine, but I still have 3K to spare.

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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do you?

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o.o

ripe obsidian
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I should

zealous wing
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ill scan

ripe obsidian
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is how I play voidstrike

hearty river
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I'm just a lil guy mistah Six, please spare me.

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I have not read the guide LOL.

zealous wing
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thanks nerd

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this one i presume

ripe obsidian
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I think I have been using this

zealous wing
ripe obsidian
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Nexus, not flurry

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flurry does work fine tho

zealous wing
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you gave me flurry >:(

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RUDE

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fixed

ripe obsidian
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Did I?

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I cannot recall

zealous wing
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you did

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you mightve misspoke

ripe obsidian
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I don't know much of anything right now

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I am so weirdly tired

zealous wing
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fair

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but you want to keep gaming?

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im torn between hopping back on the server or running heresy's im so exhausted lmfao

ripe obsidian
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I wanted a win, and I got close earlier.

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But then I got too tired

zealous wing
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cranial rot?

untold otter
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Would anyone be willing to help me with the Malleus Monostorum penance in a private game?

zealous wing
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i can, ill need to launch the game up

untold otter
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Thank you so much

zealous wing
untold otter
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I'll send the request and I am in the North American Region

zealous wing
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east or west?

ripe obsidian
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Got someone who raged a ton because I didn't bring bubble

zealous wing
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lol

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for ROT!? kekw

ripe obsidian
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I told him to dodge and he spent the rest of the game just spamming "just dodge" in chat constantly

zealous wing
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dumbass

ripe obsidian
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That game was bad

zealous wing
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i hope you blocked

ripe obsidian
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Next game I fucked up a clutch b/c 3 trappers surrounded me.

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I did block

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But that game was almost a win

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And every map after that I just got worse and worse

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I am tiltman, king of tilt

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unrelated

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We've had one Pogryn, but what about second and third pogryn?

deft stump
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Sometimes I wonder how you end in worse games than with someone literally a second in the past panicking.

ripe obsidian
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Sometimes it's my fault

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Sometimes it's not

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Most of the games today were my fault

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@dull scroll got to witness my sleep-deprived scum "play"

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I was very heavy.

zealous wing
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almost died to a heresy plogryn

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too tired for darktide

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cant see straight kekw

plucky flax
zealous wing
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and, music, so cant hear either

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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im gonna go back to the server kekw

plucky flax
zealous wing
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dont need to see straight to build a crypt

ripe obsidian
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I start getting bad at Darktide before I realize I am tired. When I realize I am tired, I am very bad

zealous wing
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i notice im tired when i play like a god, then if i push it i falter MASSIVELY

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i get like, 2 maybe 3 rounds of nearly flawless gameplay, then i crash HARD

zealous wing
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my guess is its a perfect blend of mindlessness reaction times, habits, and playing something im familiar with

zealous wing
deft stump
ripe obsidian
deft stump
zealous wing
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ye

deft stump
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In malice.

ripe obsidian
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I just die

deft stump
# ripe obsidian I just die

Malice though. Even being smacked by 5, I still have at least 20% hp left... and the knowledge I might be going to bed soon.

ripe obsidian
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I can't even win malice

deft stump
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Cos ganger is terrible half asleep.

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Especially if you see the fork I run lul.

supple kiln
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noob question how do i actually use smite usefully

dull scroll
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3 games

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3 mission aborted

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new record

deft stump
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Or doing objectives.

supple kiln
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ggs so the only real way to do this pennance quickly is to use it ineffectively and be a bot the whole game

deft stump
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Because nobody likes being hit when carrying a battery or trying to hack.

supple kiln
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yea fairs

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thank you

deft stump
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Best just run ep smite and rush it through on malice.

supple kiln
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second noob question how do i use the voidstrike usefully

supple kiln
deft stump
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People are less annoyed on lower diffs because is all newbies or ppl just wanting to shut brain nearly completely off while bonking.

supple kiln
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fair

deft stump
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Like EK suffered from the hp buff but Strike suffered more.

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This is assuming altfire EK.

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Is sad, but FS clearly never thought about those when just buffing everything to have more hp so only the best weapons stay viable.

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And yes, everyone agrees the Strike needs buffs for ages now. Is good in like malice, but falls off a cliff past heresy.

supple kiln
deft stump
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Unless you only play uprising or malice.

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It just doesn't do enough for the time it takes to charge or the cost in peril.

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EK suffers the same but more in peril costs, just charges faster.

supple kiln
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i was using EK with scream and it was pretty fun at least but FS definitely carried me through damnation on psyker

deft stump
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Yeah, Strike is in a seriously bad spot atm.

lilac sigil
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They're all pretty good honestly. It's just inferno is OP, so they seem less good than they are.

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Had a Voidstrike psyker top damage in Auric Maelstrom earlier (though he played a bit too cautious overall), and personallyI still enjoy Voidblast best (mostly as a secondary to good melee options, for revolver-like primary shots and big chonky stuns against armor packs)

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I do think Voidstrike could use more pierce so it feels a bit more like "psyker plasma gun". Either that or have it be a second strong anti-armor option and remove cleave almost entirely from it (so it's just big meaty single target damage)

Actually with pierce I'm really talking about being able to damage multiple crushers in a pack, so I suppose I doin't mean pierce at all, but AOE radius.

supple kiln
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truthfully i havent played auric yet so im not nearly as skilled/experienced to use it well so idk

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im sure good psykers can perform very well with it

lilac sigil
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Yeah and I'm ONLY on Auric, so I'm not pushing the very hardest content usually.

supple kiln
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im sure a big part of it is just that FS feels so broken

lilac sigil
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Yeah they just need to balance the damn thing. Weapons with infinite cleave need some severe drawbacks, and inferno really doesn't have that.

supple kiln
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its interesting that to me it functions just as a better version of zealot flamethrower

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like you move faster while firing and have infinite ammo thats pretty nuts

deft stump
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Is also because you actually can buff soulblaze easier than flamer burn.

potent echo
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Zealot flamer has like 50% more range

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But that isn't too useful KEKW_ogryn

zealous wing
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six uses voidstrike in auric often

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even clutched with the thing in a game we shared

lilac sigil
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Stuff I'd love to see (as a non-main psyker who just dabbles)

  1. Inferno range reduced and Carapace multiplier lowered further.
  2. EK secondary damage (lightning bolt) increased (from 750ish DPS to like 1300? It's mostly single target so it really needs to perform )
  3. Voidstrike I guess just needs more AOE radius? It'd remain mediocre against armor, but with more radius it'd be a serious horde-clear contender balanced with Inferno. I mean I do think there's an argument for a 'psyker plasma gun' too, but if the other two staves become particularly excellent against armor hten a 3rd isn't strictly necessary.
  4. Voidblast unchanged. (With the others changing, I think it'll end up in a good spot?)
  5. Figure out how to sensibly end Soulblaze spreading
  6. Disrupt Destiny is NO LONGER TEAL, but some other distinct color. (aka 'holy crap I'd be able to see what the Emperor wants me to murder even with an Inferno teammate')
potent echo
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Voidstrike explosion massive suppression please loregryn

deft stump
zealous wing
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also, casual trauma enjoyer

potent echo
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Flameoff

zealous wing
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but idk

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trauma is both AOE and singletarget

potent echo
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Carapace nerf for purgatus won't work until uncanny gets nerfed

zealous wing
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it does both very very well

potent echo
lilac sigil
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Trauma has always been my fave, but it's improved ever since I tried Greatsword.

zealous wing
deft stump
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I think those highlight nodes need an accessiblity feature where you can change the colour.

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Since colourblindness is a thing.

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Heck, even just a varied list of colours is better than just 1.

zealous wing
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yeah

lilac sigil
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I was like "well the designers just have the one color to work with I guess" until I finally bought Arbites a month ago and I was like "HEY!" (since they have a distinct color of "targeted mobs" just like Disrupt Destiny.

zealous wing
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also, infinite duration, also, 30 stacks and youre done the whole mission, like.... come on fat shark

deft stump
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Honestly, it's not like it affects others barring shared Exe stance, but they can just make it based on client selection.

lilac sigil
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I mean you aren't done the whole mission. The crit node is pretty huge.

zealous wing
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well technically, yeah, but, the big thing it gives (monster damage), you just kill 30 random trash enemies and youre set

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psykers stacks last 5 seconds, and DD target switches, and you get ONE at a time

deft stump
lilac sigil
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Also it's the SINGLE (I think) Arby cooldown subnode? And 10% rending. I mean I'm killing those things all mission in that build, just like my Psyker.

potent echo
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Is there a mod for DD colour

deft stump
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Oh and so I can "see" in vent purge or lights out.

zealous wing
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emperors lantern mod

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small ring of light around me, has helped a ton

deft stump
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And get free heartattack when I turn around and mass of purple.

zealous wing
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lol

deft stump
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Has happened, stealth maulers.

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Dunno where they got silencers for their chainaxes but...

summer prairie
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does BB really crash the server when used on a cranial corrupted reaper

verbal thistle
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Not in my experience

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I just did it like 2 hours ago

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With KF and with manual bb

dull scroll
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you don't need bb to crash the server it's crashing by itself just fine

acoustic jacinth
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Once i got to the habit of it i've found it more convenient than anything else tbh. Especially on stuff like blazing voidblast

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Like, even for comfort

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I find it better than normal quelling

dull scroll
summer prairie
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was it cranial

dull scroll
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yeah, every map had cranial in it

summer prairie
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final toll cranial?

dull scroll
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that I dont remember, it might have been goo

left storm
hearty wolf
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If EO wasn't as good as it was, literally no one would use it and run forceful imo

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Forceful is pretty busted if you don't look at the scoreboard all the time - you've got infinite time to do infinite damage

jovial juniper
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I'm BoN strongest hater

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Kill all BoNs

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Then Kill all Rotflies

ashen edge
plucky flax
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Is there a crash? I saw something with bb

jovial juniper
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Apparently yes

radiant frigate
jovial juniper
prime cave
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Is smite psyker supposed to be a snoozefest? Its so powerful but I keep getting sleepy

radiant frigate
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Yes

jovial juniper
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In Fatshark logic powerful is often boring

radiant frigate
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infernobubble is powerful too but so eepy

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not exciting

hardy citrus
hardy citrus
acoustic jacinth
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When i played arbites i ran dogless BTL forceful and shit was busted tbh

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If i did bring dog then yeah sure btl EO

ashen edge
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The 5th havoc modifier, Error 2014

jovial juniper
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You gotta tech it bro

acoustic jacinth
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Time your dodges better

deft stump
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THANKS FS.

summer prairie
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It was at the scoreboard actually

deft stump
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Eh?

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So was it a win or loss?

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I got stuck in a load screen.

summer prairie
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loss

deft stump
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But I thought the both of us was in the valk so the 2014 was before the cutscene.

jovial juniper
#

Me teaching the new players how to tech error 2014
(I failed)

plucky flax
#

Should had won faster

summer prairie
#

we were waiting for someone to die in the valkyrie

prime cave
acoustic jacinth
#

very fun

prime cave
#

How does it fare in havocs though?

#

or is it also OP there?

plucky flax
#

Should had sabotaged him earlier

jovial juniper
#

Higher horde mass

#

Higher HP

#

Still usable

deft stump
prime cave
#

Does smite have a limit on the amount it can hit?

jovial juniper
#

It doesn't have a max limit

#

The initial tethers will only target 3 enemies though

#

Then it jumps to another 3

#

SMitosis

#

3
9
21

#

And so on

prime cave
#

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

hardy citrus
merry meteor
#

Does Quietude talent use the "nominal" Peril cost of certain action - or the actual amount of Peril that was added? Like, let's suppose I have 99% Peril and I charge my Greatsword. Normally, charging it costs about 20% Peril - but as Peril doesn't seem to go above 100% anyway, in fact it only adds 1% Peril in this case. How much Toughness Quietude will generate in this case?

summer prairie
#

actual

merry meteor
summer prairie
#

it's good to have a toughness source that you can proc when you aren't killing many things

#

but maybe

merry meteor
#

If you had to drop either Quietude or Empathic Evasion for a voidblast staff build without Shield, what it would be? Both of them doesn't seem like they will trigger/be useful too often, each for its own reasons

summer prairie
#

Depends on whether it's a full crit build or not. But you are constantly quelling with trauma and presumably with shriek too, so quietude is good

#

Warp ghost isn't very good if you don't already generate a lot of toughness

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unless you just like the stamina

merry meteor
summer prairie
#

EE is still pretty nice for lmb and ranged immunity only some of the time is still decent ranged dr, but you would need to know the uptime yeah to know if it's worth

merry meteor
#

at least that's the idea

#

I don't care about stamina that much

#

Warp Ghost is also useful as crit rate of Trauma will depend on your Peril being high - as I don't use Scryer's Gaze, it's the only good source of crit on the staff.

#

Without WG you often start your fight with pretty low peril, and it will take some time before you'll get back to optimal performance

summer prairie
#

you can generate peril on demand while traversing

merry meteor
summer prairie
#

with your forcesword weapon special, trauma rmb or maybe blitz

merry meteor
# summer prairie with your forcesword weapon special, trauma rmb or maybe blitz

I use BB for blitz (as I hate primaries on staves, can't hit anything at a distance with it reliably, so need BB to take out specialists), so it's not an option. Shards would be better for peril generation I guess, but they are clunky to use for taking out single target quickly. As for swords, I tried both GS and FS, and settled with the later for that build - cause if I use GS, I end up using it instead of staff too often, as they both kinda take the same niche (mixed crowd clear) - what makes the whole staff part kinda pointless 🙂 With the FS though you can't generate Peril fast enough

summer prairie
#

you can slide forward and do short rmb charges with trauma or bb to prevent passive quelling, but sure warp ghost is more useful for mostly melee builds

merry meteor
#

Will do some more testing I guess, I like that build, just been struggling to find a proper mix to make it work smoothly over variety of situations

#

Thanks for listening to the ranting, and for the ideas

radiant frigate
acoustic jacinth
wraith sphinx
pine elk
#

also from my experience having a dog starts to be pointless when hordes of elites start to appear and your dog takes half a minute to kill a mauler (unless you help it out)

wraith sphinx
#

the impression dog left on me performance-wise is that it's more or less a polar opposite to psyker's inferno staff. dog effectiveness scales down with increase in difficulty

rare ridge
#

I just csnt seem to get the elektrostaff to be effective for me. Does anone have a guide thats good?

rare ridge
#

Bubble and headburst, usually

marble crater
#

Elektro generates a lot of peril, bubble is not preferred.

rare ridge
#

So far i used mostly the flamestaff. Works wellbut wanted to try others and....not so well

marble crater
#

Gameplay is also too mobile for bubble, for me at least. They don't fit that well together

#

Also, is your psyker lvl 30?

rare ridge
#

It is

marble crater
#

Okay, then maybe give one of the Elektro builds in the pins a try, I'm not sure if it also says how to play it.
I play it with shriek, focus specials and elites with charged attacks from the staff, shriek for horde clear and getting rid of peril to focus on the big boys again

rare ridge
#

Ok, i will give it a try. Thank you very much

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
#

I mean in havoc u want to back off so stuff ISNT spawning behind u

#

because then u just get surrounded

hearty wolf
#

I disagree with that

#

Just fundamentally

#

You can do that if you want a mission that lasts one hour or you push into places that give you a place to backpedal if you absolutely can't manage any other way

jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
#

because u want to not be getting surrounded

#

especially with modifiers like rotten on

#

if u get surrounded ur pretty fucked often

waxen jackal
#

Aye do yall have any must have mods I should get? I finally got a PC

zealous wing
#

these are the basics

#

plus whatever dependancies they might have, ofc

waxen jackal
#

Awesome thanks

zealous wing
#

there are other suggestions, like cleanforceblocking as well that are just QoL stuff, less necessary

#

display ping, many more try, soloplay, playerdeathfeed, more characters and loadouts,

#

emperors lantern, if you're like me and get serious headaches on lights out missions

waxen jackal
#

Is customui the one that will let me put buffs in center screen?

zealous wing
#

custom hud, and better buff management

#

better buff management for choosing which buffs to show, custom hud for moving things to where you want them

#

warp unbound timer also nice

waxen jackal
#

Yeah I always wanted the warp timer when I was on console

zealous wing
#

if you want something on the fun side of QoL, disco aquila

waxen jackal
#

I'll probably only play vet for right now since Ive never played one. Until the 21st so I can do account mirroring for the rest of my characters. But that does sound awesome

zealous wing
#

ah shit thats right

#

you're gonna lose your characters arent you

waxen jackal
#

I can get my non premium currency and levels transferred. But that's it

#

I really had to consider if it was worth starting over

zealous wing
#

nonpremium, do you get to keep the cosmetics at least? 😭

waxen jackal
#

I mean on my PlayStation I do lol

#

Not PC.

zealous wing
#

fuck dude 😭

#

fatshark fix your shit

waxen jackal
#

I feel like there is definitely a way to transfer that stuff. But they don't wanna do it

zealous wing
#

its doable

#

for them

waxen jackal
#

They want me to buy it twice lol

#

Which im not doing

raw garnet
#

R6 siege can do it so fatshark defo can

#

Will never forget how long everyone screamed at ubisoft to add account linking etc

#

I left before they did

zealous wing
#

gg on the PC

waxen jackal
raw garnet
#

I wouldn't neither

#

Really sucks

waxen jackal
hardy citrus
#

so how long can i keep firing when on 100 peril with the inferno

zealous wing
hardy citrus
#

oh nice

#

when it ends, if i start charging again, does it then make me pop

summer prairie
#

Once you finish

zealous wing
verbal thistle
#

@summer prairie

#

You asked last night if BB is crashing havoc

#

I think it's red parasite reaper

#

Unsure if it's KF or manual BB

hardy citrus
#

it's a reaper 100%

ripe obsidian
#

I had a crash as a game failed. Server abort, everyone crashed.

hardy citrus
#

cuz it crashed after i went near a reaper

#

i was using a force sword at the time

ripe obsidian
#

It was, I think, KF going off after I got trapper'd. Might've been a reaper.

verbal thistle
#

I bb'ed many parasite reapers last night

#

I think it's red parasite combo then KF or manual BB

ripe obsidian
#

Weird.

hardy citrus
#

ok

#

after that crash

#

how do we "get out" of the previous havoc mission?

#

go into something else?

ripe obsidian
#

Usually swapping characters a few times works

verbal thistle
#

Interact with havoc board

#

Goes away within 2 min

zealous wing
#

if it only happens with BB,

summer prairie
#

We had a final toll/cranial crash but it was without a BB psyker

zealous wing
#

fatshark need to stop making canonical psyker shit

#

psykers bringing destruction

verbal thistle
#

Maybe it's dots

summer prairie
#

It was some kind of assail purg build, I think

verbal thistle
#

Or it's solely the reaper itself

summer prairie
#

but maybe it can happen with other things

verbal thistle
#

Maybe when red parasite reaper explodes

#

From a headshot

zealous wing
#

its not crashing in soloplay sadly so i cant test :(

hardy citrus
#

we will just not accept any psykers YEP

zealous wing
#

@humble skiff was there a psyker at all present?

humble skiff
#

yes with assail

zealous wing
#

were they using soulblaze?

humble skiff
#

yes

#

flame staff with bubble and assail

zealous wing
#

HAH

#

i made soloplay crash

#

GUID: 33f13458-ff41-492b-bb09-33d4ab08372d
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: scripts/settings/buff/havoc_buff_templates.lua:1105: attempt to index local 'health_extension' (a nil value)

summer prairie
#

show the full log

zealous wing
#

workin on it

summer prairie
#

was that just a random crash or possibly related

zealous wing
#

i was testing inferno, bubble, assail, cranial reapers with toll

#

in psykanium, soloplay

humble skiff
#

my soloplay psykhanium is fine

zealous wing
#

ok dumb question

humble skiff
#

used fire and brain burst on cranial reapers

zealous wing
#

crash logs

humble skiff
#

nothing happened

zealous wing
#

where be

summer prairie
#

app data roaming fatshark darktide console_logs

hardy citrus
#

average darktide player when no psyker boost

deft stump
hardy citrus
zealous wing
#

full log, i loaded the game just to run tests

deft stump
zealous wing
#

for now

#

but thats why we're testing

#

fatshark wont bug test

#

so we have to

humble skiff
#

cranial and final toll in solo havoc psykhanium is not crashing me even with brain burst and flame

zealous wing
#

i flamed them, then threw assail once they were red

#

so it might be related to that specifically, could be a specific talent, could be them exploding while on fire

deft stump
#

I wonder if it's like hitting a certain breakpoint on a cranial unit to trigger final but then they die.

zealous wing
#

could be an interaction with perilous combustion even

humble skiff
#

i just brain bursted a reaper that had soulblaze on and at least in the psykhanium.. didnt abort the mission

summer prairie
#

the log is referencing the final toll trigger at least

deft stump
humble skiff
zealous wing
#

ill try to screen record, since clipping stops lol

#

k no crash this time

#

tried the same thing several times, no crash

summer prairie
#

it's definitely not something that triggers all the time because you can play for quite a while before getting the crash, probably involves multiple enemies

#

or otherwise precise

zealous wing
#

if someone has an h40 with cranial and toll, i think it would be good to record the sessions, so if a crash happens, it can be analysed

#

i would ask to participate in said testing, but im very havoc rusty

#

and my havoc has neither

#

i could downgrade until we get them

deft stump
#

IDK if he finished it or not.

summer prairie
#

Can't do testing now

#

if the crash log is relevant, the main error "havoc_buff_templates.lua:1105" is related to the red glowing eyes effect of cranial

deft stump
summer prairie
#

but it's related to the minion dying so probably not that important in determining what's causing it

#

maybe it's exploding and then trying to apply final toll

deft stump
#

Or it's dying to a headshot as the effect is happening.

dusk timber
#

What blessings for greatsword?

#

And perks too

hardy citrus
#

@verbal thistle what sometimes stops u listing ur own havoc mission?

verbal thistle
#

If you haven't claimed your weekly or if you have anything else selected in party finder

jovial juniper
#

Press E clear your filters

#

🗣️

hardy citrus
#

Ok

#

we just had a crash WITHOUT a psyker in party

verbal thistle
#

Okay that narrows it down to probably just the enemy itself

#

So red parasite crashes

summer prairie
#

might just be easier to trigger with e.g. kf

verbal thistle
#

Maybe if you head pop a red parasite reaper?

#

Wait

#

Is it even reapers?

summer prairie
#

probably not

#

it's just that reapers have 100% chance of getting cranial

verbal thistle
#

Yeah

verbal thistle
#

Not the reaper part

#

Sadly I'm not on RN nor do I have red parasite

summer prairie
#

I'd guess it's about proccing cranial and final toll with the same attack

verbal thistle
#

Sounds like something that's crash knowing fatshark

#

So find something that can 2 shot parasite

#

1 shot to trigger red then 2nd is a headshot to kill

#

No wait

summer prairie
#

so ranged headshot a cranial enemy that's at >50% health and do enough damage to drop it <30%, which procs both

zealous wing
zealous wing
verbal thistle
#

Maybe the double proc

#

Yeah

zealous wing
#

but then, people with inferno, bubble, assail... thonk

verbal thistle
#

Assail can do it too

#

Especially in dreg seed

#

Iirc ragers can be parasite

#

Shotgunners too

hardy citrus
#

u will be hardstuck on it ngl

#

for a while

#

simply because the crashes seem to be really consistent

summer prairie
#

melee and dot only builds should be fine

granite mauve
#

so far crashes almost everytime on cranial

#

sevr dies

thorny gust
#

Thanks for great build explanations @ripe obsidian 😍

weary crane
#

Yup I basically can't play my own mission

ripe obsidian
quartz mauve
#

hey i know asking “what’s the best psyker build” can be kinda annoying but does anyone have a guide on how to create a high peril toughness reduction build? i keep seeing ppl talk abt it but i havent been able to figure it out, in general the psyker class has been kinda hard for me to figure out despite me knowing that psyker can be OP

ripe obsidian
#

The tankiest build would be something like Ainz's glass cannon without the glass meleeker

#

It's in the pinned build guide

#

For a staff, I feel pretty immortal in H40s on my Shriek + Trauma build. It's v2 in the build guide

jovial juniper
hardy citrus
jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
weary crane
hardy citrus
#

yeah

#

that's fucking impossible to play

jovial juniper
#

Heh good luck skipping that until February

deft stump
#

So to do that you gotta fight muscle memory to hit heads.

zealous wing
#

tbh thats normally how you deal with cranial

deft stump
#

Which was why I hated the last event.

brisk trellis
#

hey how do you do warp battery, is there something I'm missing with the wording

modest perch
#

just done use ur ability

quartz mauve
ripe obsidian
# quartz mauve sorry to come back to this but which build is this? im having trouble finding it
ripe obsidian
#

Let me know if you have questions

alpine flare
#

Is shriek as useful as shield? Or would swapping them change that much? Don't want to disappoint teammates

verbal thistle
#

they do complete opposite things

#

Do not worry about what your team says or thinks

#

play to have fun

humble skiff
spice aurora
#

@verbal thistle any advice for getting past the goofy little event sequence with the alarm on archivum? I killed 2 cspawn and twins at the same time in beginning

And I die to body block cringe in those stupid rooms 😐

fkn around on wall psyker, better success than gaze lol

verbal thistle
#

go fast and get lucky

spice aurora
#

I tried pre pulling with fgs special thru wall, it didnt rly work

verbal thistle
#

bosses there are a death sentence if they catch up

spice aurora
#

I just hope they don’t spawn in there I try to full clear b4 goin in, unless the room before it (when you drop) is cringe, then I skip

verbal thistle
#

use the debug tool and see if the twins trigger is before or after airlock

#

maybe pull as many spawn tickets before airlock to get less chance of monsterous specials

#

for the 1st section before you press the button you could probably pull the ambiance with FGS special

#

through the wall

spice aurora
#

I downloaded the debug tool and I forgot to use ngl

#

I felt so cool doing 2cpsawns and twins same time

Only to die getting body blocked by trash and random mauler

ripe obsidian
spice aurora
ornate hamlet
#

I am only disappointed when people don't get me out of the net within 2 seconds

#

(it was my fault completely)

zealous wing
#

lol

ornate hamlet
#

Today a lad was netted when I was playing arby

#

I used all my grenades and charged the trapper just to be sure

zealous wing
#

lol

potent echo
#

Is it possible to stack enough assist speed to rescue someone while they are still standing netted

potent echo
#

+nuncio pogryn

shell egret
#

tf is up with havoc being so dead tonight?

#

been @ the terminal for 15 mins and 1 party shows up every couple mins

verbal thistle
#

its late on a work week for NA

potent echo
#

Psyker should have a talent that lets you pick up allies from 15m loregryn

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
#

that oo

shell egret
white sky
#

Is cranial what rotated in?

ripe obsidian
#

Aye

white sky
#

Ty

ripe obsidian
#

Anyone wanna havoc?

#

H40 Consignment, Rot + Final Toll

shell egret
ripe obsidian
#

I still exist, yes

#

I can log back in. One moment.

shell egret
#

added

plucky flax
#

What modifier got removed?

ripe obsidian
#

Rituals

shell egret
#

i yearn for the day rotten armour is rotated out

ripe obsidian
#

Rotten armor was fine when it was a ranged-only damage reduction.

#

Because it meant you had to get into melee range of the one-shot enemies to kill them.

#

Okay, risk and reward.

#

Now it's just, "fuck you"

shell egret
ripe obsidian
#

Eh, we all could've

#

Such is the way of things

#

No one is to blame

#

Biggest issue is that we had no CC or frontline, so we kept getting scattered when 80 crushers spawned

#

And it was very hard to regroup or push

#

I've been using Voidblast a lot in rotten armor. It helps keep some space.

plucky flax
#

Need to rat more

#

With knife or something

ripe obsidian
#

carry me Agent

#

Not tonight

#

but this week

#

I'm like 0/10 in H40s

plucky flax
#

Maybe Thursday when im home. I have shit hours until then. Sleep work repeat

ripe obsidian
#

I hope your week is not too shit, despite the hours

plucky flax
#

Its not that bad just boring ass 12 hours shift

#

So i dont have much time to go gym

#

Or any gaming

#

My map is rot red as well so no crash

ripe obsidian
#

Mine is red rot consignment

plucky flax
#

Mine is Warren 619

#

What class you been playing? How do you lose?

soft gale
#

hey is there a bug with force staff right now?

plucky flax
#

Just play scum or psyker and call it a day

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

😮

#

2 most op classes

ripe obsidian
#

this is my average game

patent jacinth
#

You should play fat zealot

ripe obsidian
#

I end up as the last person standing

patent jacinth
#

It'd be interesting

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

It would likely not go well

patent jacinth
#

Its as baby proofed as it can possibly get

plucky flax
#

Fat zealot?

patent jacinth
#

As long as you stay alive you are doing your job

plucky flax
#

Is that different from book?

soft gale
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
patent jacinth
#

Immovable brick who can eat bursters for like 30 damage and also shave a captains head off

plucky flax
#

Yeah and dump aggro on the psyker xd

soft gale
ripe obsidian
#

Havoc?

#

There are bugs with cranial

soft gale
ripe obsidian
#

Probably cranial, then

#

I don't know if people have figured out exactly what's going on

#

but it's something to do with cranial enemies

plucky flax
#

Fs Just pull the modifier until its fixed

#

Put stim back in PeepoHappy

ripe obsidian
#

Fatshark? Fix something?

#

You jest.

white sky
#

They'll fix it

#

It'll just take 6+ months

unreal bridge
#

Is the reading park near keystone on the bottom left bad for inferno staff?

ripe obsidian
#

It's not good for Inferno.

#

I only use it on blazing voidblast

#

Literally the only enemy it helps with for soulblaze is crushers, and even then it's an increase of like 30 damage per tick to 90

#

So pretty meaningless

dapper shadow
#

quick question is voidstrike still ass

zealous wing
#

in havoc yeah

dapper shadow
#

why even live

#

when buff

#

make voidstrike the superior plasmagun

ripe obsidian
#

Voidstrike in Havoc == :<

#

Voidstrike in Auric and below == :D

hearty wolf
#

I come back today to resume the grind

ripe obsidian
#

May your suffering be minimal

zealous wing
#

dont do cranial

potent echo
#

Reject if smol pp

zealous wing
#

cranial is broken badly

#

you could be winning, then aborts the mission

ripe obsidian
#

Nurgle figured out how to win

#

I've had one crash to cranial, but most of my losses have just been a domino effect in rotten armor

hollow summit
#

why voidstrike bad

acoustic jacinth
hollow summit
#

i always thought the cleave was exceptional

#

hmm

acoustic jacinth
#

Voidstrike staff itself to do respectable damage needs Disrupt destiny

hollow summit
#

ah well, more bodies means flame better then

acoustic jacinth
#

It's far from "unplayable" or anything dramatic like that

#

It's just that we have much better competitors

radiant frigate
#

can't imagine another staff being more satisfying than voidstrike doubleshot to the dome of some unfortunate heretic

potent echo
#

The sound thumbsup_ogryn

radiant frigate
#

chonky

hollow summit
#

bubble chukka

obtuse dome
#

Atleast voidstrike requires some braincells to use.

plucky flax
#

Voidstrike right click vs plasma left click xd

obtuse dome
plucky flax
#

Im more about the power of each shot and cleave

#

But yeah easier to aim too

radiant frigate
#

in the dark days before all the melee psyker buffs and fgs i played illisi voidstrike shriek

#

and while it did do really well at the time

#

it was, at the end of the day, like playing psword plasma shout vet but worse in every way

plucky flax
#

Voidstrike with patch 13 was good

#

Then it got damage nerfed and never recovered

mental rock
#

And true aim got nerfed too

radiant frigate
#

true aim nerf is whatever if you engaged in melee too

hearty wolf
#

Simple solution, get rid of the warp wizard

marble crater
#

BB, bad?!

hollow summit
#

Why is the space wizard spamming m1 on flame staff

marble crater
#

To stagger everything that isn't a crusher or boss

hollow summit
#

Welp, he didn't bring a melee I guess

marble crater
#

Inferno melee is usually for single target damage anyway

ashen edge
#

He can just hit them with staff for 8 damage.

marble crater
#

and the stacking soulblaze damage, yes

obtuse dome
#

You still get stacks of blaze away with spamming lmb.

hollow summit
#

i thought you're supposed to m2 spam for blaze away

obtuse dome
#

Its not that much difference in dmg

marble crater
#

m2 doesn't stagger though, so sometimes it's better to spam m1

obtuse dome
#

Holding does more dmg after a few ticks

#

Before its actually less

marble crater
#

Like when you are facing 10 ragers, spam m1

ashen edge
#

I don't know why fatshark still keeping the staff special attack

#

Virtually useless imo

hollow summit
#

agreed

obtuse dome
long saddle
#

staff special has the honor of bonking burgles in their weakspot to free teammates from its stomach

hollow summit
#

what

#

that works?

long saddle
#

yep

hollow summit
#

or rather, you can melee to release a teammate?

ashen edge
#

It have high stagger.

long saddle
#

it's one of the few things that can

hollow summit
#

i see

#

can i dog zap it with remote detonate

long saddle
#

I don't know if that hits weakspot

hollow summit
#

it staggers i think

#

dont fucking know

#

but the dog does go for the weakspot

long saddle
#

it prob frees

summer prairie
granite mauve
#

can't fs just quickly disable ts

#

temp get rid of cranial please

hardy citrus
#

yeah

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it's crazy that unless it rotates out next week at thjis rate

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havoc could be unplayable for ages

summer prairie
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if it's specifically cranial/final toll combo, most maps have no issues

plucky flax
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Funny because cranial and red worked in previous seasons

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Fartshart magic

hollow summit
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ok the build im running feels like shit

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i need to get another point into the DD tree so i can actually keep stacks

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cant kill fast enough, not enough stacks, failure spiral

marble crater
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Have you tried playing better? loregryn

hollow summit
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oh i took the wrong node

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🤔

marble crater
hardy citrus
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according to a couple of responses to a short post on reddit

summer prairie
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I've only seen evidence of it happening with toll/cranial

granite mauve
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mmmh

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all ik is that havoc worked fine be4 cranial

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but if it's just toll/cranial it would be less uh, dog

hardy citrus
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yeah

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not fun for it to be unplayable

tardy pumice
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any announcement by fatshark?

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"hey we know aboiut the bug and are working on a solution"

granite mauve
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naw i don't think so

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ppl probably already told them about it tho

tardy pumice
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in what way?

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like do we know they have seen the bug reports/complaints?

long saddle
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people tend to be loud

tardy pumice
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ok but do we know that they are listening?

long saddle
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there's prob gonna be a patch next week

idle plover
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i feel like running the stun shield instead of the bubble today

plucky flax
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Stunning and brave

spice oar
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When’s the next havoc season starting??

long saddle
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like the next full reset?

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not until a named update

spice oar
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Ooft

long saddle
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they only change modifiers and maps in the small patches

plucky flax
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Usually like 3 months or so

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When they reset rank

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Last season rot stim was so peaked

brisk fractal
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So, for rotten armor, what blessings should I put in my inferno stave?

weary crane
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Load up darktide -> crashes

brisk fractal
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The warptravel experience

weary crane
weary idol
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whenever people ask me to use anything I just open inspect and instantly criticize every single off-meta choice they have made

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weapon choice

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perks

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blessings

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even a SINGLE talent that deviates from the norm

queen carbon
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Valid

weary crane
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  • crit dmg on recon
ornate hamlet
# weary crane lmao

Me when people don't run exactly what I expect from them (I never saw them play, I just judged their entire life based on a single interaction)

hearty wolf
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Reeeeee

narrow herald
frail oar
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Is that the explosive mark?

summer prairie
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yes

frail oar
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Don't think I've ever seen the explosion itself deal that much dmg

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Other than lethal prox anything special?

summer prairie
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It's only like 124 there with no buffs other than Execution on the weapon

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didn't have flak at the time I think

hearty wolf
frail oar
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That is giving me pickpocket urges

hearty wolf
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I'll finally be able to press spacebar and shift and it actually will work

spice oar
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Peter how are you doing that

brisk fractal
plucky flax
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No its shit

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I play all my havoc without it

hearty wolf
narrow herald
hearty wolf
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Yeah

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Imagine if I got a Wooting keyboard

marble crater
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Pressing the keys makes you go faster in games

hearty wolf
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It could have been worse

narrow herald
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Wootings are much cheaper for what you get

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Is it at least gasket mounted?

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I swear to God, are American PC accessory companies just straight up ripping us off now

marble crater
hearty wolf
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sounds

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Silliconey

ripe obsidian
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You're silly. >:(

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Sorry, siliconey

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Autocorrect

hearty wolf
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Why am I silly :<

ripe obsidian
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Because I say so, and I am the arbiter of such things