#psyker-class

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zealous wing
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or what

ripe obsidian
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I'll get ya.

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You'll get got.

deft stump
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So, you gonna comment on my horribad builds?

zealous wing
ripe obsidian
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I know the city you live in and semi-passable Norwegian

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I'll find ya and get'cha

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
marble crater
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Don't all Norwegian just live in Oslo? Their population is not that big loregryn

deft stump
zealous wing
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i live on an island

white sky
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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i cant remember if ive ever said or not

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ah i did

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oki

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but still

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good luck

deft stump
ripe obsidian
deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I responded like 2 messages after you posted the screenshot!

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I just didn't have a lot to say. Psyker is the only class on which I fancy myself an expert

thorny blaze
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I wanted to report we successfully got my malleus monstronum penance with the help of Hexis

zealous wing
zealous wing
ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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cannot do the latter but could prepare the former

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though depending on time we could go to the shop loregryn

hearty wolf
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stab stab stab

steel flame
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@waxen bolt Started practicing with the obscurus. God do I despise the swing patterns but the damage is certainly there. Biggest issue I keep running into besides the the h,l,l combo all having different hitboxes for the head (which I'm starting to pick up) is fucking animation desync plays merry fucking hell with the combos

waxen bolt
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bro...

steel flame
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Bro?

waxen bolt
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why ping?

zealous wing
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ainz is asking why you pinged

waxen bolt
unreal bridge
steel flame
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Oh, you turned me on to obscurus

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Still hate using it

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But I'm going to keep using it

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You make it look very saucy

waxen bolt
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Sorry to say but you got the wrong Ainz

steel flame
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Gaaaaah

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Fuck

zealous wing
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lol

zealous wing
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yeah lol

unreal bridge
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What an interaction

steel flame
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Why da fuq is he not in the ping list

zealous wing
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ainz changed their name

unreal bridge
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He is wdym

steel flame
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Fuck

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Didn't know he changed his server name

zealous wing
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miiabestsnake

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still shows up tho lmao

steel flame
steel flame
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Yeah but I don't have his icon memorized

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XP

zealous wing
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on this day you horribly embarrassed yourself

steel flame
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I'ma go cry

zealous wing
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it would have been funnier if the ainz thats here right now just rolled with it ngl kekw

steel flame
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That would have been cinema

spice aurora
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Both ainz must fight to the death now

steel flame
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@verbal thistle after mortally embarrassing myself in front of an imposter........I love how much damage obscurus, despise the attack pattern and desync makes the h,l,l combo freak out half the time.
The hitbox moving for the h,l,l combo is annoying as hell, got any tips to compensate for it

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Its also super bizarre going back to the 1h force sword after using the great sword for so long, feel almost too fast xP

low merlin
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Alpha+ level Psyker activity

steel flame
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How goes the council of steves?

low merlin
steel flame
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Finalize any of your blood rituals yet?

low merlin
low merlin
steel flame
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Maybe when you do you'll be able to summon the spirit of Steve Irwin to manifest a giant crocodile to eat his ass

low merlin
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Speaking of that, in my last D&D session we were fighting a Dwarf Paladin with an AC of 21 at level 4, and I'm playing as a Drakewarden Ranger Psion multiclass, and my dragon latched onto their ass and it kept succeeding the difficulty check, so it just kept chipping out 1d6 lightning damage every time it was their turn.

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For reference, the dragon is about the same size as a monitor lizard.

verbal thistle
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I did it....

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omg my heart

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I'm sweating so much

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H40 solo zealot

ornate hamlet
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I miss when using this on my vet was funny

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Now psyker has a quadrigazillion DR nodes and gets better toughness

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There's no more "yo, that knife vet has the psyker insignia, he went through hell and back and I want him to marry me"

low merlin
ornate hamlet
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But I wanna flex

low merlin
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Fair enough.

low merlin
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I'm basically taking no DR on my second Psyker.

low merlin
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Psyker was my first character, and I still use him. Loving good ol' Zeryx.

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And Car is the goat.

ripe obsidian
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I was being sassy

spice aurora
verbal thistle
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Yeah

ornate hamlet
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Yo, he lowered it by 12 minutes

verbal thistle
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Cause that's how long it took

ripe obsidian
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Fancy

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Good job

verbal thistle
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Thanks

ripe obsidian
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I look forward to watching the video. What map?

verbal thistle
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Excise vault, rotten armor + final toll

ripe obsidian
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Getting the thingies over to the center before they despawned sounds annoying

spice aurora
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Its not bad just big slide gaming

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Did you feel good with rot cuz they nerfed their move speed

verbal thistle
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end event was the hardest part

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I was so careful

spice aurora
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The 3 goops xD

verbal thistle
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almost died on the 2nd vault room

hardy citrus
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@verbal thistle what's ur recommendation for the force swords?

verbal thistle
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which ones

hardy citrus
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the little ones

verbal thistle
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1 hand or 2

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and how are you going to use it

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combo with staff build or melee focus

hardy citrus
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I haven't the foggiest, I'd like to try a melee setup but I'll also probably be basic and make a voidstrike or infernus setup too

verbal thistle
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warp res a low as possible, same reason as FGS you want peril when you special. Cara/Unyield/Flak/Maniac. Blessings can be alot of things Uncanny and Slaughter is what I use

hardy citrus
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which marks

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I assume psyker generally uses staff on hordes often, with things like infernus setups, so you'd want the... illisi? which is thje single target one?

ripe obsidian
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Illisi is a worse FGS in every way but mobility

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Obscurus is the best for melee focus. It has a decent horde clear combo and a very strong single-target combo.

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Deimos is, in my opinion, best as a quick-swap weapon on ranged builds. L1 > H1 does a lot of damage to a single target and knocks crushers/unshielded captains over

hardy citrus
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ill have to give the obscurus a go then

ripe obsidian
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Obscurus is also the hardest of the three to execute well

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Not particularly hard, mind

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But the others are quite simple

unreal bridge
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use the combat blade like a chad

modest perch
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gross imagine not having access to deflector

unreal bridge
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(I use it)

frail oar
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Deimos has the best feeling move set and nutty stagger even into crushers. Obscurus has a slightly better heavy light combo into hordes.

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Slaughter uncanny riposte are my go tos for blessings

hardy citrus
radiant frigate
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combat blade more like noncombat blade

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you ever seen someone fight with it?

frail oar
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Yes it fux

radiant frigate
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me neither i just assume it's for running and zealots

ornate hamlet
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Spacing blade

weary crane
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Combat blade needs stun immunity bc it's range is ass

radiant frigate
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combat blade is like dueling sword if it sucked

ornate hamlet
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You don't have the third eye that I do for the combat blade

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You cannot become a goat like me

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🐐 ‼️

radiant frigate
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can't be the goat if I'm washed

ripe obsidian
hollow summit
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Bubbles of violence wooo

crisp ether
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If you need range, literally just do that.

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It is actually a deceptively far reaching attack.

frail tapir
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Does the fire staff inflict soulblaze? (For the purposes of perks)

hollow summit
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Yes

verbal thistle
frail tapir
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Ah I see why it’s so popular

hollow summit
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You're supposed to run uncanny on your melee for the rending?

fickle depot
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you know kinetic deflection (block is peril not stam till X), does that work for parry?

ornate hamlet
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Yep

hollow summit
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Parry spends stam?

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Didn't know that

fickle depot
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hmmkay ty, going to try making a tankyboi

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im an utter shit glass cannon player (dont get old guys)

ornate hamlet
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I'm not sure about the perfect parry, but if you spend too long in the parry animation and eat an overhead, your stamina is pretty much gone

low merlin
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I shall construct a build dedicated to lighting everything on fire.

flat cedar
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Brain rupture of tazer for psyker for havoc 20+ (I use d bubble and bolt pistol)

spice aurora
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skullcrusher on the team is nice lol

cunning delta
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anyone got clips of melting packs of specials or anything like that

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its so satisfying

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mid mission ofc

heavy dagger
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what’s the best way to play voidblast scrier gaze warp siphon?

spice aurora
plucky flax
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On a bonbon can do like 20k weakspot crit with the stab xd

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Emotionally support oggy

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Morning karien staregryn

deft stump
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Well, less than an hour. Is that EU time still?

plucky flax
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Ye

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Early morning

deft stump
plucky flax
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Cereal for breakfast and some coffee with bailey

deft stump
plucky flax
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1 meal a day thats proper diet

deft stump
# plucky flax 1 meal a day thats proper diet

That's dinner, if someone gets food. Depression hits, didn't get groceries on Thursday. Gotta wait till next to stock up so only limited cups of instant or need mood to go out to eat.

plucky flax
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Eat more just make one fat peepoFat

deft stump
plucky flax
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I guess they can have a lot of calories

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Get 1 of those Korean ramen then add an egg

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Real

deft stump
plucky flax
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Eat ramen raw

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No hot water

deft stump
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There's hot water.

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Do you not own an electric kettle?

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Is why cup and not packets.

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One just dump hot water, the other needs a stove.

plucky flax
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No im broke

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Cook noodles in microwave or in a pan

deft stump
plucky flax
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Peak British food

silver pagoda
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What's the concensus on terrifying barrage on inferno staff?

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
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All staves already have amazing suppression. It adds basically nothing.

silver pagoda
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okay

plucky flax
pulsar hazel
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hope we get new staves, it's crazy how vermintide got more staves since darktides releases than darktide

radiant frigate
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did it?

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is it a total of 1

deft stump
hearty wolf
# plucky flax

How tasty is this btw? I've literally been eating noodles for every meal the past week

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Idk why I'm having this noodle craze

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They're just so fucking tasty

radiant frigate
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going out to eat undead

deft stump
hearty wolf
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Idc

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Tasty

deft stump
deft stump
plucky flax
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Have you tried balut though

hearty wolf
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I haven't

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Sounds interesting

hearty wolf
hollow summit
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yeah watch your kidneys shrivel up while you're in your 20s

polar flower
hollow summit
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and your hair falls off

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then die of heart failure in your 30s

hearty wolf
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Sounds like a win to me?

plucky flax
hearty wolf
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I better take out a few more credit cards..

hollow summit
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you dont want to be bald and dying

hearty wolf
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Nah being bold is the worst

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I'm getting my silver hairs too and I wanna see if I become a silver fox 🤔

hollow summit
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you wont be living long enough to see it if you consume a lot of msg

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just a matter of fact

hearty wolf
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Google is telling me

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Monosodium glutamate (MSG) is not bad for most people in moderation and is classified as "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) by major health authorities worldwide, including the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The idea that it is broadly harmful is largely considered a myth rooted in outdated, methodologically flawed studies and anti-Asian sentiment from the late 1960s.

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I'm moderating it by having it every meal 🤧

hollow summit
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moderation as in once per week

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bloody hell

plucky flax
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Granted I dye my hair but I think im not going grey yet

deft stump
deft stump
hearty wolf
plucky flax
deft stump
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You do know your beef and mushrooms have MSG, right?

deft stump
hearty wolf
plucky flax
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Need that sodium bruh

deft stump
plucky flax
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@hearty wolf what's that round thing its Indian i forgot the name

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Some fried onion or something

weary crane
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Bhaji

plucky flax
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Thats it.

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Very British stufd

hearty wolf
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Bhaji is so good with the condiments they tend to give you

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The mint chutney

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Reeeee I'm gonna get out of bed now because this is making me hungry

plucky flax
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Not bad prison scran whatthefuck_heresy

hearty wolf
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H40?

plucky flax
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I can maybe play 1 round after shower

hearty wolf
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I think I've suffered enough mental trauma in the past two days that I've figured out what I'm doing wrong.

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Kk let me know

hollow summit
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but eh, our obesity issue isnt as horrifying as americans

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and generally, i would not trust the US FDA

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american food is unhealthy, as a standard lol

deft stump
summer prairie
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I can do

deft stump
hearty wolf
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And there was a lot of bullshit like gunners firing through reapers which they aren't supposed to do

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Or being team killed

summer prairie
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this bolt pistol scum with rashad (but who didn't use rashad at all) did as much damage as my needler scum, very puzzling. He has chem grenades but barely used them (???). It was all ranged damage

hearty wolf
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And the deaths I did have were purely skill issue because of how aggressive I'm being - I don't think any other class allows for as much aggression as I'm currently doing so I'm trying something new and didn't even realise it

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It's how I wanted Arb to be

plucky flax
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I saw a bistol scum with really high damage too. Did he use the more explosive mark?

summer prairie
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I guess he just spams that into everything and it's good

plucky flax
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My testing in meatgrinder didnt yield good result

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Maybe its different in a live game

summer prairie
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desperado+dependency

plucky flax
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Hmm didn't try execution

hearty wolf
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Yeah but it's not something I had to consider before

deft stump
dull scroll
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bolt pistol is pretty godly on scum apparently

summer prairie
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Agent you coming?

hearty wolf
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Guess he's showering

plucky flax
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Im doing post shower routine and clean up

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Just play if youre in a rush

summer prairie
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We'll wait. Looks like 1/3 of his damage was farming hordes with the explosion

primal radish
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What reduces kinetic layer CD? Mine is def proccing faster than 12 sec

summer prairie
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nothing

hearty wolf
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@summer prairie that's what I was using

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I'm more interested in just making the melee work

summer prairie
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imagine skipping nimble

hearty wolf
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o wait

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that's old

summer prairie
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I think the "base damage" toxin node is pretty bad

hearty wolf
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Also did the ritualists hp get cut? When I got to the rituals by myself (no chem grenade or anything) I could kill the entire thing in like 5 seconds

summer prairie
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probably just hyper criticals but I also shot the cultists with a needle

hearty wolf
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So do you think something like this is better?

summer prairie
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well the +blitz is not that great with blackouts but at least it's cheaper like that

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but you need blitz toxin with blackouts

hearty wolf
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oh yeah I was missing 1 skill point

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I added the toxin to the blitz back

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I'd actually be happy to drop the needle pistol tbh

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For something that kills trappers and flamethrowers through hordes

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AMD graphics card moment

hearty wolf
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@summer prairie @plucky flax thanks was fun

plucky flax
hearty wolf
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Don't think I did too badly either

plucky flax
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Ledge moment

hearty wolf
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The ledge moment was BS tbh xd

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For some reason, my instant replay replays the last 10 minutes, before the 10 minutes

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so 20 minutes behind

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The incident

plucky flax
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Xd

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Bruh moment

hearty wolf
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Melee scum is so fun tho. I find it requires brain power so I assume I'm doing something wrong because the game shouldn't be hard with infinite dodges

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Not having stamina recovery on dodge when your rampage ends is fucking aids

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because you have no nimble and you're super vulnerable

plucky flax
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Yeah exhausted state is rough

hearty wolf
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If only stimms gave stamina back, would be a decent way to coutneract it

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Destroying captains shields tho? You can do it instantly xd

wraith sphinx
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"Mr E said im weak" lmfao

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fire name

marble crater
plucky flax
hollow summit
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keep seeing people named azumgi or markus kruber

versed hedge
hearty wolf
wraith sphinx
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not gonna watch a mr e video sorry

hearty wolf
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It's evidenced at least

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Tldr player hurtboxes seem to be extended so you take damage from AoE effects when you're not supposed to

deft stump
hearty wolf
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That's pretty brutal

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We actually lost a run like that earlier

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A burster exploded and killed agent and someone else

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And practically wiped out my and Syllo's hp

deft stump
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Yeah, boomers also have issues with igniting and being pushed.

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So, gambling.

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Missing a boomer is worse than a trapper now in cases.

hearty wolf
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Feels like it yeah

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At least I'm on a win streak

deft stump
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Fatshark, massive things before going on a LONG holiday.

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A classic.

hearty wolf
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At least they gave me stab stab

summer prairie
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Wasn't that fixed already

deft stump
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Unless the fix was to make that the standard.

summer prairie
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"Fixed an issue with explosion hit detection hitting players from further away than before."

deft stump
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Even on 3 ping where it's not extra sus, I'm still getting hit from suspect distances if not behind cover.

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And what should have been more chip, deleted more than half my hp.

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Getting hit at the edge.

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That's over 75 hp.

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Malice btw.

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So, kark do I know.

hearty wolf
deft stump
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Because if so, then they over buffed boomers since they do full damage at the edge now.

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Instead of damage based on how close you are to the epicenter.

dull scroll
unkempt panther
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Am I going crazy, or did they nerf the not-great force swords for psyker, reducing their max dodge count from 5 to 4?

deft stump
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Is 1 short for everything.

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You always have 1 more when you first hit empty.

dusky crane
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Could be the extra dodge node

deft stump
wraith sphinx
unkempt panther
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Ok, but my great force sword has a dodge count of 3, and my reg force sword has a dodge count of 4, according to the bar. Without the extra dodge count node. With that node, it's 4 for great force sword, and 5 for regular force sword.

unkempt panther
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Same for the tooltips: tooltip says 3 for great force sword, and 4 for my 60 mobility regular force sword and 4 for my 80 mobility regular force sword.

deft stump
unkempt panther
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between great force sword and regular force sword.

deft stump
unkempt panther
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How many dodge counts should I see onthe bar for great force sword and for regular force sword, no talents? Right now, I see 3 and 4.

deft stump
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Especially when you are used to mentally counting.

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I know the normal sword is 5.

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Like knoife.

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Combat Blade.

unkempt panther
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That's what everyone says, but I think they bugged both the tooltip hover on mobility, and bugged the new dodge count bar. Or something is very wrong.

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It's hard for me right now to visually tell when it's degrading. Let me see if I can tell the exact difference.

deft stump
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Fatshark Fatsharked.

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Lul.

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Unless they silently nerfed dodges without saying.

unkempt panther
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tooltip says 4 dodge for my illisis at 60 mobility and 80 mobility. Was just randomly checking things.

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Guess I'm going to make some new illisis with mobility as my dumpstat for now, lol

deft stump
unkempt panther
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I know I'm probably doing worse, but want to experiment with spamming that special at least once, and it's a huge difference in peril generation

deft stump
unkempt panther
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mm, thanks, good to know,

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Those differences just seem so small too, are they noticable to anyone?

deft stump
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MIGHT.

unkempt panther
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Like 3% dodge distance on what, a 3 meter dodge base distance? Or something like that?

deft stump
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Lower. Lul.

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Is like 2% on knoife.

unkempt panther
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So, yea, once in a blue moon it might save me,lol

deft stump
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LMAO.

unkempt panther
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It's 3% dodge distance for the regular force swords for 20 mobility diff.

deft stump
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And that has the highest FLING.

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Outside of pen dumped mk 5 DS.

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A.k.a. funni dodge meme DS.

unkempt panther
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heh

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But yea, I know that some people sometimes even purposefully craft a sword with less than 60% warp resistance so that they have an easy way to build peril, for the abilities that scale with peril. I know. I have some of those. flame staff shriek is super fun.

deft stump
unkempt panther
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Also, other random question, is there any legitimate reason nowadays to take empowered psionics for like any build at all? The only real use for it I see now is the meme smite all day build when I'm feeling super lazy.

deft stump
unkempt panther
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lol

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Yep

acoustic jacinth
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EP is just for fun builds or to crutch on assail yeah

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Warp siphon in particular has been fucking crazy this rework

deft stump
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Cos mat costs is insane.

acoustic jacinth
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With warp battery mandatory shriek is going off every 7-6 seconds

deft stump
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And I rather you kill than make things dance.

unkempt panther
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I used to like using it on assail, but now it only adds base 25 damage, and the don't build peril or eat charges, but that's just nowhere near good enough IMHO compared to the other two options which are way better even for spamming assail IMHO.

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Yea, I like warp sipon.

deft stump
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Basically, is more for funni or when you start very poor.

unkempt panther
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Essence Harvest, the one that gives 30% over 5s on gaining a warp charge is IMO so good.

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plus the cooldown reduction, obviously.

acoustic jacinth
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Due to warp rider and the like

unkempt panther
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yeap

hollow summit
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i dont understand flame staff

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how do i use it

acoustic jacinth
unkempt panther
# hollow summit i dont understand flame staff

left click in semi-emergencies to stun enemies that need to be stunned. Right click to build charge, then release on the hoard, moving left to right to blanket everything. Repeat until they die, and most things will die very quickly. Except crushers of course.

acoustic jacinth
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You can m1 ragers to stun them with flame staff

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Outside of that though m1 is whatever

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Tap quell like i showed you before and minimum cast m2, spam it

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Shriek to overcap soulblaze

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Shield for support

deft stump
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Wecome to RENDING.

unkempt panther
hollow summit
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what's overcap soulblaze

unkempt panther
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flame staff IIRC can only go up to 16 (or 17) stacks.

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When at 16 or 17 stacks, shriek can increase it by another 6

hollow summit
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oh interesting

deft stump
acoustic jacinth
# hollow summit oh interesting

There are many sources of soulblaze in this game. Each source has a defined limit of stacks, so you do not do infinitely scaling damage. By putting these sources on top of each other, like brick by brick, you increase that cap and apply more

hollow summit
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i assume i get flak maniac for perks, what blessings tho

acoustic jacinth
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Blaze away and warp nexus

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Always

deft stump
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Hilarity ensures.

unkempt panther
hollow summit
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i see

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ok

acoustic jacinth
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Also you can do flak and unyielding if you hate bulwarks

unkempt panther
hollow summit
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eh, its just for my BB PE build

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bulwarks are unyielding

unkempt panther
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err, bulwarks

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I am blind

deft stump
acoustic jacinth
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All g

unkempt panther
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Anything that's not a boss and not a crusher* dies fast enough to the flame on its own, typically.

deft stump
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Use fs push atk to deal with cara.

hollow summit
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flak+crit huh

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ok

acoustic jacinth
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You can also do that bcoz crit applies 2 soulblaze instead but usually ppl dont care and go unyielding because its flame staff

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And everyone despises large bulwarks/reaper spawns

unkempt panther
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but now we have, what are they again, 8,500 hp crushers that don't take damage from like 75% of the weapons and abilities in this game? Who thought that was a good idea again?

unkempt panther
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Yep.

deft stump
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Try rotten crushers.

unkempt panther
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If they didn't come regularly in conga chains at auric of like 5+, I wouldn't be quite so annoyed. I can only imagine how bad it is at high havoc.

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Yeap.

deft stump
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Rotten blue stim crushers.

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Rotten fartpoxgas mission...

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Extremely balanced.

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Absolutely.

acoustic jacinth
unkempt panther
#

Like most people, I'm just ad what it does to weapon variation viability. Can't use most melee weapons and be survivable because of them. They should be rarer, or rules that they can't* spawn in a group of a dozen, or maybe nerf carapace slightly so that other weapons can actually do soemthing against them even if it's not as good.

hollow summit
#

oh yeah, what does the pox gas buff do

mellow dagger
#

yo guys i am level 20 in the psyker calss and i'd like to do an irruption build you guys have any tips for it ?

unkempt panther
#

can't spawn*

hollow summit
#

where should i be reading about it

unkempt panther
deft stump
unkempt panther
#

Well, or first get to 30 and then do that.

deft stump
#

Stacks with final toll and stims so have fun.

hollow summit
#

eugh

#

im so damn glad im not playing havoc

mellow dagger
deft stump
#

I do know the damage reduction one works and makes rotten arse.

acoustic jacinth
# deft stump 16 secs++ basically invul.

I genuinely think that modern warhammer devs don't play their own game. In space marine 2, they recently added a modifier that doesn't give you health or armour if you STAY NEAR YOUR TEAM, which if you are solo the BOTS FOLLOW YOU

acoustic jacinth
#

😭

deft stump
#

And uhhh... smyker.

#

Legit btw.

hollow summit
#

yeah sounds about right

#

devs too busy making a game without experiencing what they do to the game

unkempt panther
#

They really need to entirely rework all of empowered psionics. The only real use is to endlessly smite, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but it's often boring, and makes players that rely on it unable to learn the mechanics.

acoustic jacinth
#

Sadly it's a common issue

hollow summit
#

i am brain bursting a lot of shit

unkempt panther
acoustic jacinth
#

All classes have some questionable choices made not only in their trees but also avalible weapons

acoustic jacinth
#

Falchion's release was so underwhelming, at it's not just falchion itself, it's also vet psword being hilariously good at melee

mellow dagger
acoustic jacinth
#

Oh assail

unkempt panther
#

Is this a language thing? Must be. In the English version it's called assail.

#

Sorry, thanks.

mellow dagger
#

ye cause i am french

deft stump
#

Oh and uhhh... they managed to die on malice as arby...

#

On a scripted showcase.

unkempt panther
#

C'est bon. Je suis desole.

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J'ai etudee la francais a l'ecole.

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or whateer. Forgot most of it. I suck.

mellow dagger
#

you are not forced to speak french you know

acoustic jacinth
unkempt panther
#

Let me stop butchering your fine language.

mellow dagger
#

it has a little bit of grammar errors

mellow dagger
#

buts it cool

unkempt panther
#

But assail builds? Assail is OP until you get to auric. Just get the two unlocks behind assail, and go to town. Get the usual nodes.

#

overpowered = OP.

mellow dagger
#

i know more english slangs than french$

mellow dagger
radiant frigate
#

c'est epíque

unkempt panther
#

At auric and higher, you should start doing other things in addition to assail, because there are just too many enemies on the screen for how many assail charges you have, and the damage they do, and assail does nothing against crushers and sucks against some of hte other mobs.

deft stump
#

So... I can just tell you this, the avg console gamer on malice plays likely better that some of the devs.

unkempt panther
marble crater
#

Bonjour

mellow dagger
#

cause i know nothing about the psyker build

unkempt panther
#

assail, and the two nodes behind it: ethereal shards, and quick shards.

weary crane
deft stump
#

Malice is insanely much easier lul.

unkempt panther
#

I'm sure you could youtube or reddit some proper builds, but assail is never going to be the main part of your build at auric and higher because it doesn't deal with all enemies and you don't have enough peril or shards, and because other options just do way way better. Assail can be a compliemnt to other builds.

frail oar
#

I love that city pop song

unkempt panther
#

If you want to make assail your primary weapon for lower difficulties, just take the obvious nodes that help.

mellow dagger
unkempt panther
#

Choose shriek or bubble shield, whichever you like more,

#

Sure, let me whip up what I'm using for funsies with illisi and electrokinetic.

deft stump
unkempt panther
#

Honestly that would be better than anything I have.

deft stump
#

There's the big book of builds.

unkempt panther
#

I'm not a compelte newb, but there are experts.

deft stump
#

Some more competent than others.

weary crane
#

Assail in havoc is like hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

unkempt panther
#

lol

deft stump
unkempt panther
#

My current build is just throwing some assail to build up peril, shrieking when off cooldown and there's a sufficiently large group, and illisi and electronkinetic vs anything else, with some assail thrown in for Malefic Momentum stacks. I assume it's a pretty standard build. I also know there's better builds, cough cough flame staff.

hollow summit
unkempt panther
#

well, I switch between that and a flame staff build, depending on how I'm feeling, and also between shriek and bubble shield for both.

hollow summit
#

im trying to barrel this guy

unkempt panther
#

I really need to try the dark arts of scriers gaze and disrupt destiny more often.

hollow summit
#

its... not really that complicated

#

press f, kill people

unkempt panther
#

I know, but a different playstyle.

hollow summit
#

wdym

unkempt panther
#

Less defenses and "oh shit" buttons, but my god more damage.

hollow summit
#

its just, kill people

#

oh

#

that's just psyker class in a nutshell lmao

unkempt panther
#

lol

deft stump
#

Push it, leeroy jenkins!

hollow summit
#

press the go button

#

and go crazy

#

woo

unkempt panther
#

Dunno, you can make some really tanky psykers builds while still having some respectable damage, AFAICT,

#

it's not as glass cannony as maybe it should be.

hollow summit
#

that sounds bad and unfun

deft stump
#

Once in a blue moon when stars align.

#

They got insane TDR and DR for a 'Glass' Cannon.

unkempt panther
#

I think it's general consensus that psyker and vet are a little too strong? Dunno.

acoustic jacinth
acoustic jacinth
#

Since you don't actively try to stay in SG

#

Either your build does it for you

#

Or you abuse warp unbound instead

deft stump
#

You have 2 TDR nodes, one is mandatory or you die.

#

Gold is only on shout.

#

No, infil tdr is meh. Like infil needs buffs.

#

I'm talking about the one where you keep murdering elites.

#

Iron will is flat mandatory.

unkempt panther
#

But I usually feel pretty unthreatened with shriek or shield, plus essence harvest, and some of the psyker nodes at the top of the tree. It's just hard to die. I think most of the time that i die, it's because i didn't see that stupid overhead, or I didn't properly dodge that trapper or burster, or because the game threw a silent trapper or burster at me

acoustic jacinth
#

Vet is at least fairly good at toughness outgenning most damage sources

#

Confirmed kill + exe stance is the fuck you button

deft stump
#

Have you seen psykers lul.

acoustic jacinth
#

I mean, psykers are not a good bar of comparison for anything

#

Literal outlier class in general

unkempt panther
#

space wizards OP!

acoustic jacinth
#

Sure. You can barely die with inferno meta

#

🤷‍♂️

deft stump
#

I see ones that take Empyric Resolve and still lmao

unkempt panther
#

Even without fire staff, psykers still not that squishy IMO.

deft stump
acoustic jacinth
#

Yeah

frail oar
#

They have so much Toughness Replenishment. The last tree rework added a few nodes that pushed psyker over the edge.

deft stump
#

Is why I hate melee oggies.

#

There goes all the bleed stacks I usually rely on to migitate mistakes.

unkempt panther
#

plus other shenanigans like empathic evasion, which says I'm mostly immune to ranged attacks now, thanks.

frail oar
#

I think the 25% damage to peril when below critical was the beat survivability node they added.

deft stump
frail oar
#

I didnt use it at first but now it feels mandatory

#

Smite isnt safe enough!

unkempt panther
#

It's just silly with empowered psionics when you are stunlocking the whole screen, especially if you take empyric resolve and shriek to do it all day every day.

deft stump
plucky flax
#

I tank overhead on psyker sometimes

unkempt panther
#

worse, with empowered psionics, it actually does moderately respectable damage against trash mobs.

plucky flax
#

Dunno how

#

Maybe random yellow toughness maybe lag

deft stump
unkempt panther
#

oh, and battle meditation, and I can smite for almost forever. It's disgusting, and I almost never run it, lol.

frail oar
#

I think the damage to peril let's you tank 1 mauler overhead

plucky flax
frail oar
#

Hmm dats weird I feel like that's the largest single TDR source. Maybe you can tank two!

unkempt panther
#

speaking of the earlier conversation, if crusher overheads weren't basically instant death and unblockable by nearly all weapons, they wouldn't be so annoying either, but they're that, and also basically immune to 75% of all weapons, and even against the 25% that can hurt them, they have 8500 hp.

hearty wolf
#

@plucky flax You use an ultra wide don't ya?

frail oar
#

I agree the game is currently too warped around crushers. A lot would have to change for this to shift in another direction.

plucky flax
hearty wolf
#

Ah ok

#

I'm shopping for one right now

summer prairie
#

I'm using an ultra wide

#

but got it quite a while ago so not relevant

deft stump
plucky flax
#

Get at least 1440p hdr ultra wide

#

I think they start around 33 inches

hearty wolf
#
#

This is what I'm looking at

summer prairie
#

It's very nice in terms of how much you see

#

It's an older LG 3440x1440

plucky flax
#

So that model will be old soon

hearty wolf
#

That's why it's discounted I think

summer prairie
#

I still don't want to use oled for my main desktop use but I'm sure it will look great.

plucky flax
#

Yeah you should have another monitor

#

You dont want burn in

weary crane
#

27 inch 16x9 is perfect imo

summer prairie
plucky flax
#

But you can use your current monitor to browse with

hearty wolf
#

But bro what is THAT

#

Feb 4th?

#

I'm hoping they deliver to quicker by accident

#

😄 🔫

plucky flax
#

Bro is rich

#

I am so broke in jan.

#

Car insurance + mot/service nooooo

#

What's your havoc level? I can play couple more rounds now if you want.

unkempt panther
#

I am now experiencing the joy of uncanny strike deimos in the practice area

hearty wolf
#

I have no clue

#

So we just run yours?

plucky flax
hearty wolf
#

Kk coming

#

Ok

#

THere we go

atomic flicker
#

does surge crit 2x projectiles work on voidstrike alt fire?

jovial juniper
#

Only staff that it can proc on alt fire

#

So yes

hollow summit
#

i dont understand how the damage on warp slash work

jovial juniper
#

2 big bowling balls coming up

hollow summit
#

can someone tell me

#

does it have falloff

summer prairie
#

it does

hollow summit
#

does the damage diminish as more targets are hit

summer prairie
#

no

hollow summit
#

does holding the swing longer before letting it go do more damage

summer prairie
#

no

hollow summit
#

so ideally i just yeet it in melee range at a horde?

dusky crane
#

unless we're talking about a weapon that can't have that, then no

dull scroll
hearty wolf
#

I would like a game where I don't get carried

summer prairie
#

the physical swing does barely any damage anyway

plucky flax
#

What's going on here @hearty wolf

hollow summit
#

i think i might have just killed 2 crushers with a crit

summer prairie
#

looks like a skill issue

plucky flax
#

No he's crawling on the floor

#

That's OP

#

New tech

hearty wolf
#

And software hacked my pc

#

Can't do anything

plucky flax
#

You restart game or?

hearty wolf
#

Need to restart pc 1s

#

I dunno why AMD is so fucked

#

I was trying to clip my point of view

#

I didn't have a revive animation for you

#

When I held E, your bar just began filling

plucky flax
#

You were wiggling on the floor.

#

It was op

#

And you didn't take flame damage somehow

plucky flax
#

In the selection screen.

hearty wolf
#

Ye

#

Otw

plucky flax
#

Just join us we'll start first.

alpine flare
#

If I'm going blazing trauma shield, what melee do folks pair with it?

hearty wolf
jovial juniper
#

Or even Dueling Sword

#

Or Knife

hearty wolf
#

Oh

#

the stabaliser just broe

#

for my keyboard

#

My game is spazzing the fuck out too xd, it's spamming join requests and I can't stop

plucky flax
#

I think some weird bug yeah

#

We lost the enemies were too powerful nooooo

hearty wolf
#

Gg again, that was good

#

That run was "How much damage could I take?"

ornate hamlet
#

bro has not bought a new keyboard

hearty wolf
#

But I don't think it was bad(?) I controlled a fuck ton of space

weary crane
#

The enemies go everywhere with 2 hivescum, I can't get them clumped together lol

hearty wolf
plucky flax
#

Xd

hearty wolf
#

I glued the stabaliser back in

plucky flax
#

I dunno what I'm doing

ornate hamlet
#

I heard if you just shake it violently, whatever's out of place statistically has to fall back in

hearty wolf
#

I'm 800k down

#

although

#

ngl

#

I did troll a bit with the captains

#

I didn't realise Zai changed to Arb

ornate hamlet
#

bro was being disruptive

plucky flax
#

Mfw they are outside of inferno range for ee

hearty wolf
#

So I was standing around waiting for him to hit it

hearty wolf
plucky flax
#

No they changed it.

weary crane
#

My crusher special was applying skullcrusher and thunderous on everything, idk if yall have debuff indicator

hearty wolf
#

Ah shit

plucky flax
#

I have yeah skullcrusher op

plucky flax
#

I did some damage to crusher without doing any uncanny.

hearty wolf
#

I did find things were easier to kill this run though compared to the zealot one

low merlin
#

Is the fire staff still viable?

hearty wolf
#

I also found the run really fun even if a bit chaotic

plucky flax
#

Oh nvm it was my fault I quelled for 0.5s I should had just ran away out of los

weary crane
#

I don't like open maps, I like when everything funnels into 1 corridor

hearty wolf
low merlin
#

I'm going to make a build designed to incinerate everything that breathes.

hearty wolf
#

which feels super fucking wrong

#

My dodge distance is too far for closed maps

weary crane
#

Yeah no scum is great on open maps, plenty of room to rat out

hearty wolf
#

Either way I'm getting carried cos I can't clear h20 with randoms apparently but with you guys I seem to be doing okay

#

and plenty of times I was just left to go fuck up a boss or rot pack by myself and it was fine

plucky flax
#

The first round you 3 had like within 40k damage

#

That's op

low merlin
#

Dueling Sword, fire staff, Venting Shriek, Brain Rupture, Seer's Presence, and Warp Siphon. Idk what to do for curios. Maybe stamina focused.

hearty wolf
low merlin
plucky flax
#

Unintentionally 40k reference

weary crane
dull scroll
plucky flax
#

No they were extremely close

hearty wolf
plucky flax
#

2 scums 1 stealth zealot

weary crane
plucky flax
#

Bruh moment

hearty wolf
#

ignore the nade, I thought it would stun through walls for some reason

hearty wolf
#

what the fuck

weary crane
#

Tbh I felt like I was hardly doing anything

#

I couldn't 1 shot anything

hearty wolf
#

Was that thammer when you were on Zealot?

weary crane
#

Duel sword

hearty wolf
#

With stealth ye?

weary crane
#

Yeah

dull scroll
#

ohhh, thought you were saying the 3 of them did within 40k damage 😏

hearty wolf
#

Jesus christ, I didn't realise it was that strong

weary crane
#

So it was like +10000% DMG but I still couldn't 1 shot rotten crushers, unless I had like all buffs applied and hit weakspot from the back

plucky flax
hearty wolf
#

I did more melee elite but that's because of poison

#

I farmed the fuck out of hordes it seems

summer prairie
#

because you had corruption immunity

#

it's op

plucky flax
#

Scum op I guess

#

I can eat overhead for free now

hearty wolf
#

I guess if my toxin wasn't stolen, I would be way ahead huh

summer prairie
#

looks more like the other scum's was stolen

hearty wolf
summer prairie
#

since you were melee

low merlin
#

Guys I think I started the fireKEKW_ogryn

hearty wolf
#

o ye I guess

summer prairie
#

but he had rockets so not sure

hearty wolf
#

In which case, I kinda did nothing? He would have had an extra 400k on me and he was bringing insane utility

hearty wolf
#

I did control shit tons of space by myself though but that's something that's way too hard to measure

summer prairie
#

well it kind of hurts both

dull scroll
#

wait what, there's mods now showing overhead circles 😂

plucky flax
#

Best blitz

weary crane
#

I felt so guilty going into stealth and watching 10 quantillion crushers turn on agent

summer prairie
#

blitz for rotten at least

#

rockets*

plucky flax
hearty wolf
#

Oh and also, do DoTs get affected by the rot armour?

low merlin
#

Why is it that any times there's an elite horde it's always either Rager, Crusher, Shotgunner, or Hound?

hearty wolf
#

You did just name the elites and then mentions hounds xd

summer prairie
#

it doesn't quite one-shot crushers but gets close

low merlin
hearty wolf
#

with soulblaze tho, that's a free clean up

low merlin
#

What do you want from me?

hearty wolf
plucky flax
hearty wolf
#

The game does have a bias for elite trains like that

low merlin
hearty wolf
weary crane
#

The director was kind today

plucky flax
#

You guys could had just go

plucky flax
low merlin
#

As intended

hearty wolf
#

I would really like a timer showing me how long I have on rampage

#

Time to check Nexus

summer prairie
#

combat ability timers

dull scroll
#

the mods for this game honestly are starting to get out of hand

hearty wolf
low merlin
hearty wolf
#

I only care for mods that prevent me from having to do some bullshit like set a timer on my phone

dull scroll
hearty wolf
#

Ngl full auto is fucking me over on the needle pistol because it keeps firing 2 shots for some reason when I tap

plucky flax
#

You can try skitarius and disable any option for the needle gun.

dull scroll
#

also the ones that auto solves mini games and show exactly where scan targets are at

plucky flax
#

I use them it's op

#

I'm not playing this game to do mini games.

#

And teammates rarely do them so I might as well cheat to get through mini games faster.

hearty wolf
#

i think I might have to get that mod out of necessity because other people use it

#

And otherwise I just become slow if I do it

dull scroll
#

what else is OP, the danger zone and health bars of course

hearty wolf
#

Those are OP

dull scroll
#

you get so much slack for using these in the comments 😂

hearty wolf
#

Spidey sense if you don't have accessibility problems although the game is kinda broken with audio so

plucky flax
#

Yeah well idc about random youtube comments Xd

#

I post memes anyway.

hearty wolf
#

That reminds me

hearty wolf
#

I was actually watching one of your melee scum videos like 3 weeks ago and you mentioned you don't like scum

plucky flax
#

No I don't like scum. 🙁

summer prairie
#

psyker % colors is too much

hearty wolf
#

What's the reason? Since you like Arb

plucky flax
#

Pysker % color I think is the peril gauge mod.

#

Yeah I like arby but honestly I just like melee psyker more than melee scum 😄

plucky flax
#

I kind of like range scum though

#

Since it rats so hard.

hearty wolf
#

Interesting

plucky flax
#

Range scum with vraks iag

hearty wolf
#

Melee scum is what I've always wanted - I didn't realise I'd like it. I've come full circle because I loved quick weapons then began to hate them and preferred big bonk

summer prairie
#

I tried vraks iag once and didn't seem fun, but don't know how to use it

hearty wolf
#

now back to quick weapons

summer prairie
#

too slow gameplay

plucky flax
#

How is it slow?

#

Jitter + vulture

#

You just dodge for miles and not take any range damage

summer prairie
#

when I'm shooting I'm slow

hearty wolf
#

^ that's also the problem I have with ranged Scum

#

it feels lazy and slow when you're firing

plucky flax
#

Forward slide shooting I guess

hearty wolf
#

like yes you can dodge everything but I feel like you need extra reload speed or just more apm

summer prairie
#

did you try dual autopistols, with desperado you are faster than when running with shivs

hearty wolf
#

is there any skill that removes the firing slowdown penalty?

plucky flax
#

No I don't like dual autopistols

#

Can't ads

#

And I think less ttk than vraks

hearty wolf
plucky flax
#

If headshot

hearty wolf
#

But perhaps I have to do it to outdamage Agent

plucky flax
#

Cos vraks finesse high

summer prairie
#

headshotting too hard

plucky flax
#

I had more headshots than you when I played bubble knight and you played scum

summer prairie
#

because headshotting too hard

weary crane
#

I don't play with mods, makes an unstable game even more so

plucky flax
#

You had less headshots than shield oggy whatthefuck_heresy

summer prairie
#

wasn't I playing needler

plucky flax
#

You had 800k melee damage tho

#

So you used shivs a lot

summer prairie
#

I think it's counting the second hit too

#

when I do h1

plucky flax
#

Have you tried aiming head?

summer prairie
#

you can't hit both

hearty wolf
#

How did I do in comparison? I'd imagine we have similar stats minus the fact I was dead so wasn't gaming for like 5 minutes

#

(btw I started today at 22 and now I'm 33, good job gang)

plucky flax
#

I think everyone played well we won some lost some PeepoHappy

#

No derank so it's gud

weary crane
dull scroll
hearty wolf
#

At least the ones we lost, we lost quick

plucky flax
hearty wolf
plucky flax
#

Hmm flesh tearer

plucky flax
weary crane
hearty wolf
#

am I trolling?

plucky flax
#

I dunno I am not good enough to run precog

#

Rending is only 40% but rending is rending

#

It helps so much against crushers

summer prairie
#

Have you tried this mod for solo mode learning. It technically works online to an extent too but not much point and it uses a lot of lua memory right now

plucky flax
#

40% or 50% I forgot

weary crane
#

Shivs have great crit modifier so precog is good

hearty wolf
#

^ and it works on everything

#

including monstrosities which I seem really good at killing

weary crane
#

Uncanny was nerfed otherwise shivs would just obliterate everything

plucky flax
#

The consignment yard game earlier today was our best even if we had that ledge moment.

hearty wolf
plucky flax
#

27 mins

weary crane
hearty wolf
# plucky flax 27 mins

Oh that was one thing with our games. We really did not have many moments where we got stopped. it was really fast

#

I also find it interesting how people just leave each other alone to deal with their shit xd

plucky flax
#

2 scums 2 psykers is too much damage

hearty wolf
hearty wolf
weary crane
#

I'm surprised neither of you were running chem nades, they are busted in toxin builds

summer prairie
#

RitualZones. It also draws you the main path so you can see how you hit triggers based on which path you take

plucky flax
#

I think rpg is too op

summer prairie
plucky flax
#

Can get like 700k blitz damage on rot modifier

#

If people let you take nades Xd

weary crane
#

Yeah, even ogryn knows to leave them lol

weary crane
#

Chem nades is better for a mixed horde onslaught, rocket is better for a crusher pack

plucky flax
#

I wish there's a way to regen rpg

weary crane
summer prairie
#

chem nades randomly decrease enemy melee hitmass by 50% while affected, somewhat pointless though

weary crane
#

That's weird

#

Chem nades in corridors are the best, the spread out and fill it all

plucky flax
#

I dunno why it doesn't keep ticking up toxin stacks

#

It should tick to 30

hearty wolf
weary crane
#

I don't really like blackouts, the stagger area is small and unreliable

acoustic jacinth