psyker-class

[zealous wing]

im confusing myself

stahhp

hold

[jovial juniper]

A split second of a u sound because I'm pushing air out with the mouth on the U shape

[zealous wing]

i think "a ewe" and "an ewe" both apply

but it different ways

[jovial juniper]

But now that I'm aware of that split second
It just sounds like W

[hearty wolf]

@zealous wing are you gaming

[zealous wing]

the oooh part sounds the same

but not the Wuh part

no i am not

i am chilling

it be midnight

[jovial juniper]

[hearty wolf]

mofo-

Okay

[zealous wing]

whaaat

[jovial juniper]

What's the saying
Never trust late night thoughts

[zealous wing]

i COULD be convinced, but i am fucking TIRED

[hearty wolf]

I am being declined

[zealous wing]

so ill play like ass, or a god, there is no inbetween

[hearty wolf]

I was even declined by a havoc 22

[zealous wing]

and theres no way to tell until the game starts

why

[hearty wolf]

Cos I decayed cos it's been 50 years

[zealous wing]

let me look

[hearty wolf]

I got into a 30

This will be my first Scum havoc run

Good luck team

[zealous wing]

you should be fine

[jovial juniper]

I'm at h10

[ripe obsidian]

I can probably play when you finish

[indigo galleon]

Is movement king in this game or something

[hearty wolf]

i'm r

you r?

@ripe obsidian

We lost 2 in a row

[ripe obsidian]

I should be ready

[hearty wolf]

I was by myself with twins and a nurgle in an elevator

I killed RInda

Then the slug ate me

[ripe obsidian]

Good movement keeps you alive.

Bad movement makes you die.

[indigo galleon]

I see people ice skating on havoc 40

[hearty wolf]

kk

let's go

[ripe obsidian]

Loading in

[zealous wing]

chilling with a newbie, low leveling stuff

[hearty wolf]

o all good, I thought you were with Six for some reason

@strong gulch hi?

wa

[ripe obsidian]

holy fucking moly, the audio range on bursters is shorter than my Trauma RMB range.

I have done over 700 friendly damage this game

Because I just don't know the bursters are in the crowd of crushers

[zealous wing]

spidey sense, for bursters only?

make it as obtrusive/obvious as possible as well

[ripe obsidian]

Honestly, probably a good idea

[hearty wolf]

What an absolute shit show

I'm so sorry

[ripe obsidian]

I'm super frustrated by that game. We still won, but I blew up like 7 bursters on teammates

[hearty wolf]

I knew it was gonna be a bit of a jump going from auric straight back into h40

but jesus fucking christ

[ripe obsidian]

500k boss damage tho

[hearty wolf]

I promise I'm not that goddamn awful, it's this fucking sprint thing

It's so irritating

I use rampage and my stimm

get ready to ZOOM to the gunners

then I end up just walking and insta die

[hearty wolf]

Yeah did you see what I did to the DH?

I think I solo killed it

[ripe obsidian]

I did

Almost solo'd. Vet got a couple grenades down

[hearty wolf]

Ah sick

[ripe obsidian]

The DH did solo me, tho

[hearty wolf]

Yeah I couldn't keep up with you cos of mah sprint

Which is why I didn't follow

[ripe obsidian]

But that 0.6 second dodge timer makes scum a menace in 1 on 1s

[hearty wolf]

It's honestly so fun

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a0ca5f00-18bc-435a-b57e-4e367186fe94

This is what I'm using

Happy to be critiqued on it

To be fair, as awful as that run was

We did pull off a very sick clutch in that elevator

[ripe obsidian]

(after I killed you and at least one other person with bursters)

[hearty wolf]

xD nah it's all good

I was really far ahead and at an angle

So if you didn't see me, I'd understand

I really didn't expect that burster to die

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't see or hear it

I heard none of them

[hearty wolf]

I am going a bit too far ahead maybe? But like, I can get away with it and I'm killing all the gunners

[ornate hamlet]

bro is perishing

[hearty wolf]

I won't die this run

Or I'll record my sprint not working

and submit it to fatshark

and beg for a new keybored

The worst part is I can't tell if it's the keyboard or game

Guess I need to load up battlefield

[ripe obsidian]

it's been happening to me as well

Crazy input delay

[hearty wolf]

:/

[ripe obsidian]

And sprint/dodge not working

[hearty wolf]

For me it's like start-stop-start-stop while I'm holding down shift

[ripe obsidian]

Like, dodge-slide won't work, and my dodges don't seem to recover distance

[hearty wolf]

ok

i just recoreded it

Like what the fuck is it doing

That's me holding shift the entire time

[ripe obsidian]

I use toggle sprint

[hearty wolf]

I'll give that a go

[ornate hamlet]

I have an idea

There are keyboard rollover websites that show you if the key is pressed

You could try seeing if there's something weird when you're pressing shift W

[ripe obsidian]

@hearty wolf d/c or done?

[hearty wolf]

Done

I can't survive for more than 30 seconds

[hearty wolf]

This was a good idea

and yes it's my keyboard, not the game

Time to buy a new one

[ornate hamlet]

PUT A ROCK UNDER THE KEY

[hearty wolf]

Even the key isn't consistent when held down so

And not being able to dodge slide in this game is fucking aids

[ornate hamlet]

Is the key wobbling around instead of being "straight"?

[hearty wolf]

Borderline impossible unless I jerk off and wait for everyone else

[hearty wolf]

As in, physically the key on the keyboard or?

[ornate hamlet]

I've had some broken keys that would start bending to the side if I pressed it from the wrong angle

Like, I'd need to press exactly at the center for them to go down correctly

[hearty wolf]

Direct centre still has the same issue

[ornate hamlet]

Ah well, could be something under the key then

Might be able to fix it until the stores are open, unless you're not sitting at 21:37

West coast US probably has stores open at this time so idk

[hearty wolf]

So for example when I press w+shift to sprint

you can see it adds an extra shift input

[ornate hamlet]

Shift keeps pressing itself again

Yeah, classic

[hearty wolf]

LOL

[ornate hamlet]

Absolute classic

[hearty wolf]

OKAY MAYBE A BIT MORE THAN A DOUBLE PRESS

[ornate hamlet]

One of the problems I had in the past was the membrane itself ripping

[hearty wolf]

Interesting it seems to behave fine if I am on the left side of my shift key

right and middle doesn't work

[ornate hamlet]

Absolute classic

Open the key and see what's fucky-wucky

I've had that on spacebars in the past

Bread crums and hair aside, this is what's supposed to be under it

My right shift key has a bit of an elongated hole where the pressy thingy sits on one end instead of right at the middle

If the rubber is wrong, you can sometimes just grab a toothpick and readjust it to the correct position

[hearty wolf]

I can't actually get the key off

However

My A key also has problems

[strong gulch]

Hi. Sorry I missed message. I have not been active here the past week or so.

[zinc phoenix]

As a tip, don’t let your cat make sweet sweet love to your keyboard no matter how much he cries

[ornate hamlet]

🔨

It should pop off if you press the keys around it and pull it from under with your fingernails

It's not like you can break the keyboard more, right?

I mean, you can, but for the sake of argument, you can't

Imagine a world where I'm right

[hearty wolf]

my dinger nail

broke

pain

fuck this

We buy a new keyboard

[ornate hamlet]

I forgot some people have weak nails

I can straight up try to break a fall with mine, bend them 90° against my own body weight, and they'll come out like "damn bro be a bit careful next time lmao"

But now we have a new problem to solve: gluing your nail back

[modest perch]

[ripe obsidian]

Toxin scum is goofy as fuck

I've had Mister E join my H40s the last couple days now. Did not even realize he was NAE. Haven't seen him before.

[ornate hamlet]

nae nae?

I only know this Mister E by name, did he mog your scoreboard stats?

[ripe obsidian]

He did fine

Didn't stand out as amazing, didn’t do anything bad

I lost the scoreboard to an out of memory crash

But I was playing keystoneless toxin scum. What a dumb build.

I wish I had the scoreboard. I want to see how much toxin damage I did.

[ornate hamlet]

In your heart, you know you did your best

Did you do the memory thingy in the launch options yet?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. Game's just funky

[ripe obsidian]

I'm pretty positive I had the highest damage

Only went down... once, I think? A flamer pushed me into a sniper shot

[ornate hamlet]

Mayhaps it's what you gaslight yourself into thinking

[brave birch]

Install it.

[ornate hamlet]

Which reminds me I should check the optimization guides again now that I figured what was causing my framerate drops last time

Apparently the fullscreen change for AMD GPUs doesn't work anymore, or at least not for mine

[ripe obsidian]

...

[ornate hamlet]

do it

[ornate hamlet]

do it

[ripe obsidian]

@brave birch

[ornate hamlet]

go find it

[ripe obsidian]

Ah. An adventure, then.

[ornate hamlet]

The best kind of venture

[spice aurora]

@ripe obsidian keystoneless needle abuser moment too xD

[restive roost]

I've been carrying a laspistol as a sidearm for my FGS/scryer, what other sidearms can you guys recommend?

[potent echo]

Voidblast - antibulwarks / clumps
Revolver - delete specials through hordes
Recon las - general ranged, less boss damage
Voidstrike - hallway dominator

[frail oar]

Vraks IAG agri shotty revolver bistol recon lasgun

Oh shredder is fun too but obviously has its limitations

[potent echo]

Ever since iag crit chain nerf I think laspistol is quite close in terms of boss damage perhaps

[restive roost]

Time to level up the voidstrike

[spice aurora]

can use EK staff like a warp revolver

[potent echo]

Haven't really tested

[restive roost]

What's the dump on the voidstrike staff anyway?

[potent echo]

Radius

[restive roost]

Just warp resist?

[frail oar]

Radius I think?

[restive roost]

Oh

[frail oar]

Wouldn't dump warp resist

[potent echo]

You can still hit gunner heads from behind cover if you 60% radius

It's good enough

[restive roost]

Cause I dumped warp resist on my blaze staff for bubble

[potent echo]

That's fine for aurics

[restive roost]

I guess I should't have dumped warp for EK as well?

[ripe obsidian]

It works a lot better than it should

[potent echo]

I don't know the breakpoints for EK but yea generally don't dump warp for staves

[frail oar]

Blaze staff dps isnt as limited by peril generation as voidstrike

[ripe obsidian]

How long was this? I haven't seen 3m damage without purple in rotation

[restive roost]

So please help me save resources, warp resist is fine for inferno staff?

[cosmic cobalt]

warp resist is dump on inferno

[restive roost]

Thank goodness

[cosmic cobalt]

the less it is the better

[spice aurora]

1 hr 7 min, i had to solo half the map so it took some time, rotted final toll? or rot dh i 4got

[restive roost]

But I guess it doesn't apply for the other staves

[cosmic cobalt]

I personally have it at 30 warp res since each quell tap allow 2 m2 in a row

[restive roost]

The voidblast I 500'd has it's warp resist to 60 though..

[potent echo]

Guide in the pins say dump warp res for staves

[restive roost]

Also for my EK

[potent echo]

I guess

[frail oar]

Yah. You kinda want to generate more peril with purgatus so you can land the 84 peril venting shriek

[restive roost]

Also speaking of, I've only recently tried venting shriek and it's been a lot of fun

[frail oar]

Yea try and use it offensively. It can do a lot of damage in a large area.

[restive roost]

I've sort of been treating it as a panic button

[frail oar]

Yea that's the surface level value but it is much more useful to delete trash and overcap soulblaze on larger targets.

[ripe obsidian]

That sounds honestly unpleasant. Rotten armor makes maps take so long

[modest perch]

waiter more crushers pls

[spice aurora]

we just had 2 hexbound dh, twins, captain, BON, full rott conga line, allat same time at elevator in relay station ebfore finale and we won

literally craziest game i have ever had by far in h40 xD

[placid swift]

What dump stat should I be looking for with the force greatsword?

[frail oar]

Warp

[dull scroll]

gotta post them pics like salmon just did 😏

[ornate hamlet]

@ripe obsidian I came across this just now https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1q5y14z/comment/ny3rx4y/

[spice aurora]

idk how we won that lmfao

[plucky flax]

Really? I did like 2.7mil yesterday in 34 mins or so. If round is a bit longer would be 3 mils

[dull scroll]

honestly damage in this game ultimately depends entirely on teammates
if you carry a book bot who does like 500k total and the gamepace is turtle slow you can farm millions easily
if however you playing pvp with bunch of wolves where everybody going full dps build charging rooms ahead trying to gobble everything up before others gets a bite then game is over in a blink and everyone max ~1mil each

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-buffet-battle-gif-13596147684643818280

[plucky flax]

Me at the buffet

[spice aurora]

https://youtu.be/kf2BuOXVJmI

mistimed every single dh tele cuz i suck but ogryn went god mode

[ripe obsidian]

I have had some screens like that. Six bosses at once.

[ripe obsidian]

Huh. Highest I've seen lately is like 2.4m

[plucky flax]

Find worse teammates/play better.

[spice aurora]

those dh's were awake xD

[dull scroll]

2 DHs? even I can only kill them one at a time 😏 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_h91mXXQOo

[ripe obsidian]

My scoreboard works. I got an out of memory crash, and the mod doesn't preserve data if you crash. So the scoreboard is only the last 5-10 minutes of the game

[spice aurora]

23 bosses lmfao

[ripe obsidian]

Didn't say they were wins.

[spice aurora]

i got lucky one of the dh's like tweaked out and fked off

i actually think i became the dh, i had the DH green gas effect following me rest of game

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds like we need a mercy sanction

I think the best I have run into and won was twins, 1 DH, captain, and... a pogryn? Maybe?

Not sure if it was a pogryn or a spawn

Was on Magistrati, the section after the mid event

After the drop

[restive roost]

How about the humble lasgun for a melee psyker's sidepiece

[dull scroll]

strongest sidearm for melee psyker is by far the LMB EK staff
only downside is the slow ass moving speed and peril management
but damage/pullout speed is unmatched, plus inf ammo

[frail oar]

Lasgun is an excellent melee ranged option.

Maybe not the best but my favorite for sure. Very mobile easy to proc empathic and the special is criminally underutilized.

Laspistol* mb

Infantry las sucks recon is great

[ripe obsidian]

Slow projectile speed, or slow movement speed when wielding it? Because both.

[ripe obsidian]

Laspistol is very strong if it clicks for you. It is one of the weapons that just doesn't click for me.

[dull scroll]

most specials comes at you in a straight line, this thing one/two shots them with instant pull ez
I didn't like recon and favored laspistol for the longest time because of much better pull out and shorter reload
but EK beats the pistol by miles for time to kill

[plucky flax]

No I prefer my mk12 recon las

https://tenor.com/view/joe-coin-joe-coin-shooting-laser-gun-gif-869679599936615597

[dull scroll]

trust me, I'm not lugging around this slowass 4 speed staff with a greatsword if there's no overwhelmingly compelling reason 😏

[plucky flax]

I like forward slide hips firing with recon las

Skrrt skrrrt

[dull scroll]

oh yeah also forgot, mutants, LMB spam apparently destroys them in seconds
lasguns there's no way, plus ammo

[spice aurora]

I like when you slide against a wall and it like holds the gun up so it isn’t clipping in wall

All the neat details in game

[ripe obsidian]

I already use EK as a sidearm for meleeker, you don't have to sell it to me

But I sometimes have issues with the projectile speed or the projectiles having weird interactions with hitboxes

[dull scroll]

That part is true, staff LMB is bad on moving targets, especially if they strife side ways at range, lots of miss, why I didn't use it for pure EK staff build and used the lightning.

but as sidearm for things that comes at you in a straight line or in close range, the time-to-kill is just too good

[ripe obsidian]

Most of the issues I have are when enemies randomly decide to zigzag or change targets, yes

Oh, I did blazing trauma shriek today. Felt good, other than issues with poxburster audio cues.

I very nearly lost us the game more than once.

But the damage output was pretty solid, CC on non-red rot enemies was nice

And LMB to deal with snipers and such

[frail oar]

Does it compare to warp flurry/brittle trauma?

I feel like the stagger power overwhelms the dps you get from blaze.

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight with ek would be so ass anyway need gaze for that. But my surge surge build is more staff than melee

[hollow summit]

What's second surge

[plucky flax]

The staff used to be called surge.

I dunno why they changed it to a long ass boring name.

[hollow summit]

I see

Dunno

[dull scroll]

no gaze needed

the real downsize is the moving speed, no more switching to lasgun to move fast, gotta stay with the slow FGS

[plucky flax]

That doesn't tell me anything.

[dull scroll]

then go watch the vid, that tells everything

[plucky flax]

I have 700+ ranged kills

That's mostly fgs slice

[nova tendon]

goated psyker praise

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't every feel lacking in stagger power. Plus, Shriek is even more stagger.

I think both rending and blazing trauma have their place.

Rending is more supportive, Blazing is more offensive. Depends on what you want to do. I have successfully run Rot H40s with both blazing trauma + shriek and rending trauma + bubble.

[ripe obsidian]

no dwarf left behind?

[plucky flax]

Also surge staff doesn't have this gun drip I'm sorry it's all about the drip bro
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1441702927889600562/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.11.22_-_08.11.48.02.mp4?ex=6961613b&is=69600fbb&hm=d06f23e2bea5702260cf4e31779d0f8c43369c8b88a39bd89ab04aeee6c0aaf2&

[ripe obsidian]

I meant the content of the screenshot

"Just go" followed by "fuh no"

[nova tendon]

yuh

everyone died but me

[ripe obsidian]

No dwarf left behind.

[plucky flax]

Can't be me I always die first.

[nova tendon]

[plucky flax]

Karein stop judging my noobness

[ripe obsidian]

This was the outcome of the blazing trauma game. Highest friendly damage I have ever done.

=|

[nova tendon]

[plucky flax]

[dull scroll]

😂

You know what I'll give you that, you do have a very sick custom gun skin

[ripe obsidian]

I hate that this node works on toxin.

It doesn't track ranged damage, it tracks damage dealt while your ranged weapon is equipped

[ornate hamlet]

And now so do I

[ripe obsidian]

this one does as well.

It's very interesting to me that the general public seems to scream that gun scum is OP, but it's the weakest playstyle.

Toxin scum is ridiculous, and melee is very strong (so long as you can dodge).

Desperado is just made meaningless by Pickpocket.

Also @hearty wolf remember asking me if I could bully crushers with toxin in a real game? I think I proved it today.

[plucky flax]

Gun scummer is weakest?

[deft stump]

Naw, desperado is there if you somehow 0 out ammo.

You literally pull ammo out of your butt at that point.

[unreal bridge]

any tips for melee psyker in havoc?

[plucky flax]

Hmm dodge overheads I guess.

Don't do this xD
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1398707424759910410/Desktop_2025.07.26_-_17.43.11.07.mp4?ex=6961d90c&is=6960878c&hm=f06741c10fc1db76597dfbe23e4239adcd20f0d43d964ff7239a24790594084a&

[unreal bridge]

LOL

[ripe obsidian]

what havoc level and build?

[unreal bridge]

I was using ainz melee psyker

[ripe obsidian]

or just stab a random elite

[unreal bridge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0297051-3f07-4cd6-aec5-b998a279c771/glass-cannon-without-the-glass

I’m thinking of swapping brain burst of assail and taking left keystone mod and bottom one

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I used to say melee psyker is very strong until you get hit. But now you have like 40%+ DR most of the time. Probably 60% TDR. Still don't want to get hit.

[deft stump]

Nu. I lazy, I push ult and ammo.

[unreal bridge]

[ripe obsidian]

So you can shrug off hits way too easily

1 bar of your greatsword's special will clear bruisers and smaller

You need 2 bars for elites

[unreal bridge]

ohhh okay

I was wondering how it was for that

[ripe obsidian]

The special attack will also play nicely with Malefic Momentum, though Ainz's build does not use it

[unreal bridge]

I kinda edited it a little lemme show you

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker? Oh, you mean blue arbites?

[spice aurora]

🤓 electrokinetic staff!!!! 🤓 🤓

[ripe obsidian]

There is basically nothing that meleeker is weak to at this point.

Great boss damage, great elite damage, good horde clear, great special sniping (depending on the sidearm)

[unreal bridge]

thoughts?

[ripe obsidian]

Very tanky, good mobility

[unreal bridge]

I’m not John Psyker so the changes I made might just be bad tbh

[ornate hamlet]

Bro absolutely refuses to take damage

[ripe obsidian]

I like having Warp Unbound with Assail. Allows you to throw them for free.

[unreal bridge]

That was from ainz build haha

[spice aurora]

All 5 infinity stones

[ripe obsidian]

It's honestly quite fun.

[unreal bridge]

I just kept it the same

[ripe obsidian]

The build seems fine

I'd move Warp Speed to Warp Unbound, but it's preference

[unreal bridge]

what’s the up/downside to taking assail instead of brain burst?

Do people take brain burst mainly for the attached skill after?

[spice aurora]

Use ainz build, see my guide I wrote on melee psyk too (in the build list) and itll tell you bit about the combos n shit

[ripe obsidian]

Assail gives you more horde clear and decent special sniping

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, Kinetic Flayer is like 80% of the reason to take BB

[unreal bridge]

hmm yeah I’ve heard some people say that but I don’t feel like I ever blow up or need it

[ornate hamlet]

This is mine uwu

[unreal bridge]

so I should I just swap my skills back?

[ripe obsidian]

Yours is fine. If you prefer it, keep it how you have it

Oh, and Assail plays really well with Malefic Momentum

[unreal bridge]

I’ve only tried it one game so idk how I feel w it completely

[spice aurora]

You can run that build, just if ur lookin for some info on it in havocs I have a write up at the bottom of my build just goin over some of the stuff

[patent jacinth]

You should use perfectionist

Its funny

[unreal bridge]

Bet I’ll check it out right now

It’s in the pins you said?

[ornate hamlet]

I have trauma from the last time I tried it

Felt like I couldn't hold stacks

[ripe obsidian]

it's in the pinned build guide

just ctrl+f for "bruh moment" in the guide

[unreal bridge]

I’m on console

[patent jacinth]

You can definitely hold stacks in all reasonable difficulties

[unreal bridge]

and mobile

[patent jacinth]

As long as you're above 15 its worth the investment

[ornate hamlet]

I'll give it a shot

[unreal bridge]

is it actually possible to hold the stacks with only 5 seconds?

[patent jacinth]

Yeah

[unreal bridge]

Bet

[patent jacinth]

When do you ever drop stacks without it

[unreal bridge]

never tbh

[patent jacinth]

Modern director spawns so much stuff

Just run it

[ornate hamlet]

Oh shit, this used to be a single regen instead of over 5 seconds, right?

[unreal bridge]

I just haven’t been playing melee Psyker for too long so

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, but it also used to be a 3-point cost to get there

[ornate hamlet]

I was picking wildfire to make the big toughness regen funnies

[ripe obsidian]

Souldrinker is a fantastic talent now. Was never bad, but it was not worth pathing to

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, seems like they nerfed the toughness regen

I don't remember how the old pathing was, but wasn't it near crack of bone and the attack speed node?

[ripe obsidian]

Technically they did

It was

[ornate hamlet]

Wait a minute, don't tell me souldrinker stacks like that vet talent

[ripe obsidian]

But PC, Wildfire, and WS were all left side

[ripe obsidian]

It does not.

[ornate hamlet]

Why did they technically nerf it then

Seems like a straight downgrade

[ripe obsidian]

because it's less toughness mechanically, but it's more because you can actually pick it

[ornate hamlet]

[ripe obsidian]

I never used it prior to the tree shuffle

[ornate hamlet]

I remember finding my way towards it, but wildfire was a bit of a tough pick admittedly

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire was never bad.

Wildfire has a meaningful impact on horde clear.

It's just very difficult to quantify due to the way it works

[ornate hamlet]

I mean pathing to wildfire was a bit annoying

Though I remember wildfire's mechanics were kind of... ass

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire was right next to Psykinetic's Aura

Wildfire is a strange talent that isn't explained well. It was never weak. It's just not very visible.

[plucky flax]

Bruh moment

[ripe obsidian]

TL;DR is that it gives you free stacks of fire on things.

[ornate hamlet]

Doesn't it basically split the soublaze stacks to enemies?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[ornate hamlet]

Perilous combustion slaps 3 stacks on anything, but to my memory wildfire will distribute its max 4 stacks across 4 enemies with 1 each

[ripe obsidian]

This is correct.

[ornate hamlet]

Which is, like... ass

[ripe obsidian]

It's not.

Every stack of Soulblaze on an enemy is another enemy that can proc Souldrinker or In Fire Reborn (enemy must only be afflicted by Soulblaze when they die, not die to it), another enemy that can be hit by KF, and another stack of soulblaze you don't have to put on an enemy.

It also happens before PC does.

It has a very meaningful impact on horde clear speed

Remember that Soulblaze is not a linear increase in damage. 4 stacks is like 1/4 the damage of 8 stacks. Wildfire can get up to 4 stacks on an enemy.

But let's go lower. Say Wildfire puts 2 stacks on an enemy, and you put 4 additional stacks on.

If you put those 4 stacks on without Wildfire, you'd be doing a base 11.41 damage per tick. The extra 2 from WF makes it 24.47 per tick.

Or even 1 stack from Wildfire + 6 from Shriek. 6 stacks is 24.47 per tick. 7 stacks is 32.48. 33% increase in damage from Wildfire.

[plucky flax]

Wildfire bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1422637305008750843/image.png?ex=6961e47c&is=696092fc&hm=4a52810c57870e691216609156c0447505d9d0376f71829a31879267cc7f8b4c&

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

Fatshark math

[ripe obsidian]

it's a logarithmic function or something

Cubic function, my mistake

[deft stump]

Six, I just woke up proper, why maff, now headache.

[ripe obsidian]

Suffer as I have suffered

[plucky flax]

Karien living on eu time from sea

Based

[deft stump]

Six is meanie.

[ripe obsidian]

I am a meanie, it is true.

[deft stump]

Isn't this old news?

[hearty wolf]

My melee build does have a bit of a problem dealing with rot crushers

I had so many really irritating deaths though when I played

People were really passive but that aside, I'll have to show you some of them

The part just before the really big spiral staircase to the med station

My first down there was because I saw a reaper in the corridor so decided to cut him up but there was a gunner behind him which I couldn't see because the reaper is fat

So as soon as I killed the reaper, I insta died

I also think I took more damage to goo than anything cos I just didn't want to respect it since I wanted to melee things

My death there I can't figure out even with slow playback. I think it's a pox buster through the wall

[ornate hamlet]

Perfectionism was better than I remembered during the mission, but the end event seemed pretty lackluster in glowy shit to kill

[ripe obsidian]

You need to stand in my stimm supply

It gives you 15 seconds of total immunity

And the cooldown is less than 15 seconds with my build

Just step in it, then go into melee range

[unreal bridge]

daaamn yall were playing havoc?

[buoyant maple]

I kinda finished troubleshooting DT for Linux and man it just runs better than win11 somehow

Way better framerate stability

[unreal bridge]

chad Linux user

how’s the performance in it compared to windows?

[buoyant maple]

There were 2 major issues I had to troubleshoot

Mesh streamer is broken because of some error going from DX12 to Vulkan so I had to disable it completely (which causes cosmetics to load images much slower)

[ripe obsidian]

I almost exclusively play Havoc 40 unless being goofy with friends

[buoyant maple]

And the bigger issue is a runtime error leading to a crash, on loading into a fresh start mission

[unreal bridge]

every day has been a constant cycle

[buoyant maple]

This I resolved by adding a worker threads line in user settings (unlike max worker threads which decides up to how many can be used, this decides how many are used)

[unreal bridge]

level up havoc 2-3 times
friends get on
I’m back down 2-3 levels

[buoyant maple]

However the result of doing this is that I’m not getting as high max FPS as on win11

With that said the 1% lows are much more stable which is what really matters

[unreal bridge]

I’m not gonna act like I know what this means

[buoyant maple]

No weird 1% low dipping into 27fps

[unreal bridge]

BUT at least your getting better performance

[buoyant maple]

Just super stable 70-80 1%low fps

[unreal bridge]

console performance is so trash

playing havoc 30+ your game just dies to 10 fps

[buoyant maple]

It’s more stable framerate which is better

I might push worker threads number higher later on and see if it runtime errors

As long as it doesn’t runtime error it’ll be fine

Cuz rn I’m forcing my CPU to run the game with 2 threads lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh yeah. I tend to win more with randoms than with people I know, even if the people I know are very good players. Not sure why.

[buoyant maple]

Also smth crazy
Linux DT loads mourningstar with 2 threads, in about the same time win11 DT does with 8

[unreal bridge]

my brother is typically fine

I think he peaked havoc 39 before he stopped playing a few months ago

but the other irl friends or learning lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Big part of the issue is that most of the people I know who play this game are in a different region

So at least one of us will be 150+ ping

[ashen edge]

Same here man, I gotta hop to other Asia server since SEA is almost a wasteland in havoc

[unreal bridge]

what region are you?

[crude cape]

i cant figure out why wildfire is so heavily debated. Some swear its amazing. Others swear its useless and they're wrong. The ones who swear by it say the spreadsheet guys who say not to use it are bad players.

which is it lol

[deft stump]

Look, this happens on PC.

[deft stump]

It's good on soulblaze builds. If you don't even apply enough or even any soulblaze stacks, it's useless.

[deft stump]

I play the same anyway from 100 to 400 ping.

[ornate hamlet]

I played some 400 ping stuff with Yanna

It was... an experience

[deft stump]

Precog more and more.

[zealous wing]

i can give you a visual example, let me get to my pc

@crude cape here is with and without wildfire. best way to explain is to show imo

i have the actual debuff indicator now so i should also remake that clip to show whats actually happening

[unreal bridge]

Do you guys play darktide with music?

[zealous wing]

gotta launch the game and grab my caffiene

[unreal bridge]

Or is that added in

[zealous wing]

i do

[unreal bridge]

Wow how do you do it?

I tried it and I just get really dumb

[zealous wing]

i put the music on, and try to not die

i get netted and dogged more

[unreal bridge]

Ahh ok

[zealous wing]

but i still use ingame audio, dom doesnt

[unreal bridge]

… is dom your friend?

[zealous wing]

ye

[unreal bridge]

I hear him mentioned everytime lmao

[zealous wing]

he is indisposed atm, but yeah he was around for a while

been here for couple years

[unreal bridge]

I see I see

[crude cape]

doesnt seem that different, and would just completely be unnoticeable if you just started firing more, or fanning your flames around...

im just not seeing it, but ive had more than 1 person tell me its good and people who say its bad are wrong

but the numbers of 4 spread out stacks jsut doesnt add up to me

[zealous wing]

you'd think that, but, if you play with wildfire for a bit, get used to it, then play without it, you WILL feel the difference, things will noticably die slower.

with wildfire, your basic range is increased significantly

without it, you're very limited to your staffs short range, and shriek, which, inferno isnt really a shriekspam build, and should be saved for emergencies/armour

plus, more things on fire with inferno, is good

the less time you waste on one cluster the better, and the sooner you can move to the next cluster, knowing they're all dead

[unreal bridge]

I think it also helps if you have the brain burst skills cause you the have the chance of sniping out more elites randomly for free

but I’m not sure tbh I’m still learning

[zealous wing]

if you run inferno and dont have kineticflayer / BB, you're severely missing out on its utility tbh

[unreal bridge]

It’s really nice damage

I don’t see why you wouldn’t run it tbh

[hearty wolf]

Oh

[zealous wing]

i also dont, the only alternate path is empyric shock, which, i guess works if you use LMB stagger a LOT, but, still

[hearty wolf]

OH

That

Might explain a lot of things tbh

I forgot the ping diff

[zealous wing]

with LMB stagger, you're losing more damage and time than if you just used secondary fire

plus, paired with perilous combustion, it also helps keep armour topped up by adding more stacks than PC would on its own (iirc)

meaning more uncanny stacking

which also means, less time wasted

[zealous wing]

also to add to this, yes, to the point of often getting very random snipers in my killfeed

or bombers

and, since wildfire counts enemies killed, not just killed by fire, teammates meleeing a horde will also keep spreading your fire

(and on trauma, its nice for when you dont crit)

[quartz barn]

Snipers also just die to wildfire alone

[hearty wolf]

He listens to the voices in his head

[wind spruce]

Big Dom's discord is good for finding havoc games in SEA

https://discord.gg/tmXHmFKE

[wind spruce]

And for reaching higher thresholds with one crit (or 8 stacks instead of 7 with one crit + one PC proc)

[zealous wing]

this is also true

[wind spruce]

Wildfire gud

[zealous wing]

i also am curious about these "spreadsheet nerds" saying its bad

because six is the spreadsheet nerd who says its good

[wind spruce]

Me too.

And then I become less so when they refuse to show their working

[zealous wing]

what "spreadsheet guys who say not to use it" are you referring to? if you have an example spreadsheet that would also help

because 95% of the time its complete misunderstanding of how soulblaze works

[hearty wolf]

It's hard to figure out what wildfire actually does for you

That's why

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah, but also regurgitated bad takes harm reputation lol

[zealous wing]

but its also very easy to pinpoint if you play even an auric HISTG with it several times, then take it off and run another couple

[hearty wolf]

Tune out the noise, if you are using a fire build

Take all the fire nodes

[zealous wing]

then compare damage output

[hearty wolf]

That's my take

Simple life happy wife or something

[zealous wing]

this is essentially the case yeah

[hearty wolf]

I mean the problem with this is different teammates and different seeds/ enemy placement makes it quite difficult to compare. You've got to sample over a number of games like 10 for with it on and with it off.

And then you should really compare what else you can get instead

[zealous wing]

you could also use the solo play mod

[hearty wolf]

I forget how many runs Six did when we were contemplating warp battery versus wildfire I think it was

[hearty wolf]

Definitely helps cut out randoms rng

[zealous wing]

the more data the better for sure, but if you're simply trying to feel it out, you'll notice things dying so much slower without it

hell, when we thought wildfire was the cause of the DH crash on havocs, dom took it off

and we fuckin FELT it

we had to do SO much more trash clearing ourselves

he didnt even tell us beforehand it was gone, only when we were like, halfway through did he mention it taking longer to clear trash because he didnt have WF

[hearty wolf]

Psyker can step aside now though

Melee Scum is the real horde clear

[zealous wing]

desperado uzi, actually

but melee scum is also good

[hearty wolf]

Reload time 😤

[zealous wing]

desperado uzi can outdamage inferno shriek

cant get damage if the things are dead before fire builds or spreads, plus boosted range scum has

[hearty wolf]

I don't think I could mentally bring myself to do that build.

I think my most hated build in this game was vets infinite laser pewpew

And desperado uzi is basically the same shit

[zealous wing]

they 100% need to put a longer cooldown on desperado, and a 20s or longer cooldown on pickpocket

and, probably make the amount pickpocket gives to be less

20% is a fuckton of ammo on a lot of guns

10% maybe, one mag

scum literally has infinite cooldown stims, and a keystone to increase ability cooldown, so their abilities need to take longer

and thats not even talking about infinite supply crates to make blight as a havoc modifier not exist

scum is fun but oh boy they thought absolutely 0 thoughts about how to make scum balanced, instead spending those thoughts on how to make their havoc climb a fuckin breeze

"immune to ranged attacks"
"immune to melee attacks"
"faster, longer dodges"
"corruption immunity"
"regenerating stims, toughness, cooldown, strength, attackspeed"
"infinite ammo, x2"
"armour blob delete button x4"
"rituals delete button, x4"
the list goes on

cant forget to add specifically "if toughness broken, restore toughness, very small cooldown"

[plucky flax]

But its hard to play

[zealous wing]

oh i know hive scum is SO hard to play, about the same as arby, its too hard

at least arby is just, unkillable now, rather than taking everyone elses role besides ogryn

[acoustic jacinth]

[zealous wing]

but hivescum is the new "nuke everything" class

also taking ogryns job

[acoustic jacinth]

Tbh even after trying arb till level 100-something i went back to zealot and that indirectly made me not buy hs. I cant seem to enjoy the DLC classes much 🤔

The last few matches i had with arb all i could think was "wish i was zealot rn"

[zealous wing]

for me its psyker, but yeah

like, not dying is great, but uh

can i move faster?

can i hit things harder?

no?

:(

[acoustic jacinth]

Lol

[zealous wing]

arby really does just trundle along, as ninja puts it

[acoustic jacinth]

Fair. I dunno though, i'm content with what i have

Fotf zealot is violent enough, mmf veteran keeps my aim from dying, psyker i can go nuts and have fun

[hearty wolf]

To be fair, Zealot gets this as an aura which is pretty rad. And honestly the infinite CD stimms aren't that broken methinks because there are tons of stimms on the map, people just never use them for some reason

And hold them for the post game results screen

[zealous wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1448069748716994672/infinite_crates.gif

[hearty wolf]

If you do get hit, it's kinda aids too

[zealous wing]

also zealots is after the fact

the crate lets you walk on blight

get dogged

eaten by burgle

no dmg taken

[hearty wolf]

Blame blight spreads for being cringe

Point is, drugs are good

Use more drugs

You can achieve so much more with just the right dosage

[deft stump]

Never forgetti. Over 5 mins of giggling.

[restive roost]

I really love the savant personality, but I'm torn between the masculine and feminine one. I really love how they delivered their lines.

As much as I find the seer and loner hilarious, savant is my favorite.

[zealous wing]

i have 3 main psykers, 1 m loner, 1 m seer, 1 f savant. you can have both

[restive roost]

The savant personality has such a big heart.

[hollow summit]

the cuckoo personality

oh wait

[restive roost]

The cuckoo is the seer.

[hollow summit]

that's the ex-cop

yeah

[summer prairie]

run&gun+sticky hands kind of op, look at the crosshair difference (first without)

would have been easier to see without the enemy indicator

[north otter]

arby is pretty awkward as a design imo

it's weird how the class with the lowest skill ceiling and arguably skil floor as well is a DLC class

or at least, it's awkward how you have to pay for it, lol

[brave dirge]

Maybe you can get a mouse with more resistance on click, so it FEELs like you're putting in more effort into hits and you'll FEEL like you're hitting harder

And arby is probably by design. I feel like ever game with DLC classes does it, without exception

[jovial juniper]

12 bucks for mid

[north otter]

release arby perhaps, I get the idea of the "OP p2w class" but arby's been nerfed a lot since then

[jovial juniper]

The dog is cool though

[deft stump]

Why else would you pay?

[north otter]

typically DLCs are aimed at long-time, invested players whereas arby would be my recommendation for people who are new, bad, or tepid on the game

[brave dirge]

Hive Scum started out bad-feeling so they tuned it and now it feels stronger

[brave dirge]

I mean, I pay to experience unique mechanics 😄

[deft stump]

It was broken, it's now busted.

[brave dirge]

I'd pay for an crappy but intricate class too

[north otter]

but naturally going "buy the base game and then buy this DLC class" is a bit of a hard sell for someone who I had to talk into trying the game to begin with

[deft stump]

IDK whose idea it was to make RPG +1 rocket ontop of making it stronger than oggy frag.

[brave dirge]

Now the person who was talking a friend into has to pay for the friend too 😄

[north otter]

yeah that rocket is broken af

[brave dirge]

I think it's a youtuber's idea

He threw a few options and they chose all of them

[deft stump]

Like, og +1 use, sure.

Stronger but 1 use+1 from node, sure.

[brave dirge]

I think it had multiple complaints.

• Small range
• Lacking just enough damage to one shot ogryn
• Low count

[deft stump]

This is 3-4 stronger use.

[brave dirge]

They improved all 3

[deft stump]

Like, are you serious.

[brave dirge]

I think just one shotting would be enough

[deft stump]

Even oggy frags don't 1 shot oggies.

[brave dirge]

Don't they?

[deft stump]

Like a MASS of them.

You'll kill everything but.

[brave dirge]

I don't use it anymore, but I'm sure they cleared the center, but obscrutions (like tiny bumps on the ground) would negate the damage, but still cause knockback

[deft stump]

Unless on like malice.

Then things just die.

Because malice hp.

[brave dirge]

Hold on. Imma check

I haven't used those in ages, but I'm certain that was an all-clearing nuke

[deft stump]

Dunno, but I see it used in games and they absolutely clear everything but heavy armoured stuff.

[brave dirge]

Omg, you're right

~2000 damage

[north otter]

the fact that you can aim it exactly is also a pretty underrated aspect of the rocket

like sometimes with kraks or something it bounces weirdly

[deft stump]

They might fail to clear certain humanoids as well.

[north otter]

or you have to take your aim off the crusher pack to get it to go where you want

whereas with the rocket you dont have to deal with that

[deft stump]

At least kraks magnetise... unless 300 ping.

Then GAMBLA.

[brave dirge]

Gotta pay for metal teeth implants for ogryn to make sure they magnetize

[deft stump]

It's even lower than I remembered... yikes.

[brave dirge]

Some ogryn have ceramic teeth

[brave dirge]

Yeah, I didn't even know the damage, because it always cleared things in 1 nuke (didn't need to)

[deft stump]

But basically, only thing the frag has a slightly bigger radius... not like it matters because damage falloff.

[brave dirge]

Are bleed-based buffs still a thing for veteran?

[deft stump]

Serrated exist.

[brave dirge]

I recall frag being used to stack bleeds to prime them for big damage with other things

[deft stump]

Still done, but fallen off for krak spam.

[brave dirge]

makes sense

[deft stump]

Also, krak works when you get a zealot or/and an oggy.

Or your bleed stacks get stolen too much so you suffer.

[brave dirge]

What do they have to do with it?
Or are you talking about "crack"?

[deft stump]

No. Bleed.

[brave dirge]

Wait, so bleed by team members don't count for your buffs?

[deft stump]

Knife/eviz zealots or standard meleegryn.

Yes.

I need to own the bleed stacks or I don't get toughness from them dying.

[brave dirge]

man, that sucks. I'd assume calculation would just check if bleed is applied, not who applied it

Of, you're talking about toughness. I'm thinking about damage

Toughness maybe makes sense

[deft stump]

Out for blood.

5% per kill, bleed kills count.

[brave dirge]

So what you're saying is, we also need to add bleed to the rocket launcher!

[deft stump]

So with one of them, I'm forced to play no hit or I suffer bad.

[deft stump]

The karking thing burns as well already!

(The backblast.)

Oh, ganger counts.

I forget shivs have bleed.

Pain.

[quartz barn]

So youre telling me to aim away from the horde so theyll burn to death

[brave dirge]

Fart in that general direction and throw a krak

[deft stump]

Or shoot crushers while horde is behind you. Kapp.

[quartz barn]

Optimization

[brave dirge]

Is there a reason arby has been out for almost a year and has no extra cosmetics?

I mean not in "gold" store nor cash store.

[deft stump]

GW.

Scum however is like, WTF..

Like those karks can wear any rag tag half armour and it'll be fine.

[brave dirge]

I don't like most Hive scum outfits too, but those were released recently, so I kinda get it

It's weird arby only effectively has launch stuff

[deft stump]

GW. I'm waiting for that red coat.

[deft stump]

Good thing the deluxe came with a coat.

My shadeblindness bonus in dark shadows on Mourningstar keeps making me questioning I'm on my Arby or Ganger.

[brave dirge]

Yeah. Thankfully 1 outfit that makes me look like a hidden perv rather than publicly displaying bondage fetish

[deft stump]

Wot.

[brave dirge]

Look at most outfits for Hivescum

Tell me those don't look like some bondage kink outfits

The deluxe is literally a trenchcoat xD

If you get the hood it also highlights that humped posture (trying to be inconspicuous)

[quiet inlet]

definitely the way I play it, so partially self inflicted

[deft stump]

I mean, you are here on a job because of a deal, is awkward around them coppers.

[brave dirge]

Yup, and if you're doing something shady, you try to cover yourface (by leaning down if you're wearing a hood) and nervously try to not look suspicious 😄

Anyways. my entire point is I want more outfits on both new classes 😄

[deft stump]

Oh, I know. Empty commisary sucks. I just want red and blue reskins for dockets reeeeeeeeeeee

[quiet inlet]

there is but one potential downside; you may have justified that 5 wound ogryn's choices

[deft stump]

Oh deer.

[hollow summit]

im playing voidstrike

the bubbles are really nice damage but they do feel wildly inconsistent

and i just realized its basically bolt staff gameplay lol

from vt2

[queen carbon]

I love my voidstrike staff. Though I am primarily using my shards

[nocturne fiber]

for me infernal staff is the best

[queen carbon]

Ive heard they are popular, but if I wanted a flamer id hop on a class that actually uses flamer weapons

[plucky flax]

[shy mural]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0cbd41a-64fd-47e0-88e5-f466f7630b9c/break-your-finger-psyker

lol :3

[queen carbon]

Owo

[jovial juniper]

Reality Anchor spotted

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[zealous wing]

inferno is cozy, requires no aiming, i like it
i've also taken to trauma though, very versatile, and good in any difficulty, while inferno struggles in anything below auric HISTG, and really only flourishes to true power in high havocs

[shy mural]

but how would it struggle in anything below auric HISTG? o.o

I'm confused

it just kills everything even in havoc

[marble crater]

It doesn't struggle in any difficulty

It's just feels underwhelming to play if there is low enemy density

[queen carbon]

HISTG?

[marble crater]

High Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet

[queen carbon]

Ah

[zealous wing]

like, it will still kill things, its inferno, but anything lower lacks the density to really let the fire spread as much as it would in HISTG or havocs

[shy mural]

yea but I don't think it would struggle in any difficulty... sure you might not be as satisfied with the big hordes dying but it'll still make quick work of any level

[radiant frigate]

infinite cleave weapon scales well with enemy density

more news at 9

[marble crater]

I can't wait almost 4 hours for more news

[weary crane]

Voidstrike used to be best staff

[queen carbon]

Most fun atleast

[weary crane]

It should have a blessing that gives it infinite cleave on weakspot hit

[dull scroll]

morningstar never changes

https://tenor.com/view/john-krasinski-jim-the-office-office-gif-15508780473272374119

[brave dirge]

So are HS outfits just lore accurate?

[hearty wolf]

Taking good keyboard recommendations

[hardy coral]

I've noticed that Charged strike seems to proc Malefic Momentum more then i thought it would which is nice having an extra 10-25% damage on a non-warp melee build Psyker.

[thorny blaze]

I am starting to prepare for malleus monstronum penance, are there any missions that are recommended for this?

[merry meteor]

If I apply some DoTs (burn, soulblaze etc), will perks of the weapon used to apply them (like +10% dmg to elites etc) affect DoT damage per tick? Or it's just a flat damage per tick all the time?

[zealous wing]

any with a guarenteed spawn just in case you dont hit a trigger

dark communion being one of them for example

consignment yard is another

any lights out also guarentees daemon hosts

[thorny blaze]

I didn't know there are guaranteed bosses, is there any list? And is the guarantee also working on lower difficulties?

[deft stump]

No man's land as well.

[zealous wing]

yes, they are locked spawns, related to the storyline, so they WILL be there

and yeah no mans land is another

[zealous wing]

no real set list, but, here you go. consignment yard, dark communion, no mans land

dark communions is about the halfway point, the other two are at end event

[hearty wolf]

Well my sprint key is fixed

However, I no longer wish to play this game

[thorny blaze]

Thank you!

[cunning delta]

mood

[deft stump]

What happened?

[hearty wolf]

People just don't fucking move

3 people fighting one dog behind

[deft stump]

Oh. Note to self, don't play with Sin so he doesn't rage.

[queen carbon]

Whats the requirements for it and do you need help with it?

[zealous wing]

heresy or higher, private game, they need to basically solo the monster with BB

which, i am happy to come help fill a slot for if you need one

[thorny blaze]

👆

[deft stump]

By prepare, do you mean making a build and have someone else?

[queen carbon]

Yeah i cna focus on crowd control while you go at the boss

[thorny blaze]

I meant checking if ppl have any tips for it before I waste other people time 😄

I got a build for BB

nothing much more to it

[hearty wolf]

Holy fukc

what are these bozos doing

[zealous wing]

letting you die?

[hearty wolf]

No I'm literally

[hearty wolf]

in the elevator

in the next section

I solo killed the nurgle

in the elevator

and they are still like 2 sections behind

[queen carbon]

What difficulty are you on?

[hearty wolf]

h35

[deft stump]

Just don't bring pc and warpfire and inferno if you are worried about accidents.

[quiet inlet]

Mechanical or no?

[deft stump]

I had ppl accidentally burning bosses to death lul.

[thorny blaze]

Ye I thought those may cause too much damage and somehow bork the penance so I avoided them

[zealous wing]

give me a ping whenever you wanna give it a run

saves you headache of LFG

[deft stump]

May, depends on situation but lower risk better.

[thorny blaze]

I may try it later Today actually, but not right now

I can't play for a while now so that is why I hit discord / the web to see if I need to be ready for anything more

[queen carbon]

Yeah ill be down later but im stuck at work

[thorny blaze]

I will pop in here and ping you both, if you will have time and will I will greatly appreciate it

[queen carbon]

God I want to get the achievements but I hate BB

Does location matter, im on the east coast in the states

[zealous wing]

get a BB build together also then, and we'll just knock them both at

we'll be EU but ping should be fine from NA E

[queen carbon]

Aight

[zealous wing]

100-120 generally, very handleable

[queen carbon]

I mena i can tey and build one any recommendations on how to build a good BB build?

Im more of a zealot player truthfully but pskyer is my secondary

[zealous wing]

kinetic resonance, scriers gaze, bring FGS / gun for general playing, or whatever tbh

you can go EP but its very pointless by the time you start working on the boss

EP being empowered Psionics

[thorny blaze]

interesting, I went with Venting Shreik to get the speed-up BB while melting the boss

[queen carbon]

EP doesnt seem all thst great for BB

[zealous wing]

scriers will boost BBs damage

[queen carbon]

Fair

[zealous wing]

and it comes back faster

plus, 10s infinite casting time

[queen carbon]

I think my main issue with BB is that it takes so long to build the Burst

[deft stump]

If you don't mind lag. I can't US atm. Just DC.

[zealous wing]

it doesnt actually take that long but its definitely slower than a bullet to the enemy's face

[queen carbon]

It shouldn't br an issue

[zealous wing]

lol

[queen carbon]

Hm ill need a celerity stimm then

[deft stump]

Might as well double wall if you want fast lul. Vent runs the risk of burning too much unless you use the 10% extra damage thing.

[zealous wing]

another reason i said scriers

walls are otherwise NOT helpful in general gameplay

[deft stump]

I mean for the penance.

[zealous wing]

well yeah but we still gotta get TO the monster

[queen carbon]

True

[deft stump]

Do campaign DC, usually a boss spawn after the first medicae drop down.

[zealous wing]

campaign missions have less triggers iirc, and they spawn moebian 21st trash

[hearty wolf]

Yew

[zealous wing]

a LOT of it

[hearty wolf]

I ended up fighting twins and a po myself

[deft stump]

I dunno, I did it 4 times and a boss spawned there each time.

[hearty wolf]

I came out on top but then a captain spawned

np

I final tolled it then ran to get res

Captain teleported in front of me

like I was 30s ahead of it cos of my sick parcour

I turn the corner

he's just there

standing there

[deft stump]

Mostly cos there were no maps on the board so last resort.

[hearty wolf]

I should have killed him but how did brother get there

[deft stump]

At least guaranteed mid event boss so might as well.

[queen carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/kenshiro-meme-omae-omaewamoushindeiru-omaewamou-gif-18658759

[hearty wolf]

@zealous wing we play?

[zealous wing]

play what

auric?

[hearty wolf]

o

you were talking to capybara

[zealous wing]

well yes

if you want havoc i must warn i am competent but also not

[hearty wolf]

that is fine

[zealous wing]

i am h21

[hearty wolf]

It's okay

I await

[icy breach]

I will believe the fact that team is usually the problem

[spice aurora]

old enough 😈

[zealous wing]

it was in fact not ok

[hearty wolf]

I'm literally fucking dogsahit

I couldn't climb through the window

idk why I tried

and I could have literally killed that PO in 3 seconds

why did I not

[zealous wing]

got tired of soloing for like 5 minutes

[icy breach]

Pepebrainers

[deft stump]

Is because Hex memes in h40. Lul.

[zealous wing]

what does that MEAN 😭

[icy breach]

And loses? Nah; that would be foolish
Meme once you reach 40

[deft stump]

You play around with us goobers.

[icy breach]

So you don’t downgrade

[zealous wing]

oh i do meme i guess, but thats only if no one else is taking it seriously

i dont actually care about my own rank

[icy breach]

Can confirm; Karien is the best banshee out of all the women i’ve meet in this game

She keeps giving me psychic dmg

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

You WILL get a bitch trapper warning the moment she spawns.

[deft stump]

Look, I know I'm hard to carry.

[zealous wing]

i just know that with my luck, by the time i actually get the itch to get to h40 myself, there will be another season reset

[hearty wolf]

Ah well

I'll come back next season

I'm too dogshit this season apparently

[plucky flax]

Have you tried asking karien for free carry?

[hearty wolf]

I'm trying to do something

anything

karienless

but it's not possible

[deft stump]

I DO NAWT CARRY!

[hearty wolf]

Like what is this imbecile decision making

I really didn't expect that mutie to grab me either apparnetly

[deft stump]

This is why you don't want me to play with Sin, he'll be raging all game.

[hearty wolf]

I uninstalled so I don't have to play

[zealous wing]

great now i get to be blamed for sin leaving darktide 😔

we were trying to duo my h21

i died, twice

[alpine nova]

💀

[deft stump]

Oh. Sin washed out from not playing in ages and you did say you aren't quite here or there for havoc.

[ripe obsidian]

NAE

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire is objectively good if you're applying soulblaze. Otherwise it is not.

[deft stump]

Six, you late. We explained already lul.

Also, was my Arby build terribad?

[pastel turtle]

If you're using Souldrinker, Kinetic Flayer, and/or In Fire Reborn, then wildfire does great work

[zealous wing]

i just wanna see the so-called spreadsheets from so-called "nerds"

the ones saying wildfire is bad

[ripe obsidian]

I just woke up.

[zealous wing]

good afternoon then

[deft stump]

I know.

[pastel turtle]

The argument for it being bad is pretty straightforward, it doesn't really apply a lot of stacks, but that's kind of beyond the point given how many things can be triggered by "dies while affected by soulblaze"

[ripe obsidian]

1 stack is meaningful.

6 stacks is 24.5ish damage. 7 is like 33

[pastel turtle]

yes I concur, to be clear I'm just explaining the other side of the debate

[ripe obsidian]

Fair

[deft stump]

Only time it isn't is if you have no soulblaze whatsoever.

[ripe obsidian]

My brain is not fully booted up yet

[ripe obsidian]

Is true

[deft stump]

Wasted point then lul.

[pastel turtle]

Not scientific by any means but I ran multiple aurics on builds with wildfire and builds without wildfire, using purge, trauma, and surge staffs, and in every case the build with wildfire had higher damage and uptime on warp siphon and soulstealer

[zealous wing]

ive seen the effects between wildfireless inferno and wildfire inferno in high havoc

[pastel turtle]

And I walked into that testing inclined to be a wildfire hater

[zealous wing]

its FELT by the entire team

[deft stump]

Difference between only big stuff or just everything clowncar.

[zealous wing]

everything. dom went wildfireless because of the daemonhost bug

so it was the same map, same psyker, same build, only change, wildfire

things were building up so much more

[deft stump]

Thus, only bigger stuff vs clown car.

[thorny blaze]

@zealous wing , @queen carbon - pinging as promissed, I will be looking for help with malleus monstronum. I am in game, got scriers+BB build cobbled up, so if you are interested hit me up in-game

[ripe obsidian]

Damage increase per stack (I just stuck the list into GPT so it would write it for me):

Stack → Increase from previous stack
1 → 2: +2.23
2 → 3: +3.58
3 → 4: +4.84
4 → 5: +6.00
5 → 6: +7.06
6 → 7: +8.01
7 → 8: +8.87
8 → 9: +9.73
9 → 10: +10.18
10 → 11: +10.83
11 → 12: +11.29
12 → 13: +11.64
13 → 14: +11.89
14 → 15: +12.04
15 → 16: +12.10
16 → 17: +11.88
17 → 18: +11.89
18 → 19: +11.64
19 → 20: +11.29
20 → 21: +10.83
21 → 22: +10.14
22 → 23: +9.63
23 → 24: +8.87
24 → 25: +8.01
25 → 26: +7.06
26 → 27: +6.00
27 → 28: +4.84
28 → 29: +3.58
29 → 30: +2.23
30 → 31: +0.76

1 stack matters most when below like 10 stacks, as it's a larger % increase. Past that it becomes less important

[queen carbon]

I still got 3 hours of work sorry

[thorny blaze]

no worries, hit me up if ever later you want to try it

[zealous wing]

i'll probably still be around as well, lmk

[ripe obsidian]

You better be around. Or else. >:(

OR ELSE