psyker-class

[brittle galleon]

siblings, my beloved wants to know which psyker melee weapon has the fastest chained heavy combos (heavy attacks per second and the like)

[plucky flax]

Then its weekend

[deft stump]

I mean, we can try if no go weekend it is.

[plucky flax]

I can play on laptop its easy whatever you want

And I have speakers so no blue tooth 1 channel. Its 2 channels decent speaker with super loud laptop fan

[deft stump]

POGGERS.

I mean... My PC fans are like. XD

[ripe obsidian]

I feel like I forgot how to play this game entirely after 2 weeks away. Lost 15 H40s in a row before finally getting my carcass dragged across the finish line in one.

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

So we try yesyes.

[plucky flax]

Yeah we did it all the time when im at work no?

I dunno why youre acting weird

[ripe obsidian]

this time, I deserve the stare

[plucky flax]

Ask karien for free carry

[ripe obsidian]

I think I am too heavy even for her

I dunno, man. I just kept going down, ending up in bad positions, going forward when team was retreating, dying to a couple shotgunners, random shit that shouldn't happen

[deft stump]

Brain wonky. Also using too much brain power to decide if I should get something or not.

[plucky flax]

Learn to be gud again i guess

I lost yesterday too like 3 games in a row playing scummer

Too hard

[ripe obsidian]

3 < 15

I lost 15 in a row on Arby. =|

[deft stump]

Like... My brain due to extremely limit game funds is like... Is $15 for point and clicks too much?

[zealous wing]

i dont know off the top of my head, probably combat knife or taxe?

but if you're trying to just maximise smite's charged strikes, just a heads up it does not work as well as one would think it does

also, staff bonk heavies are also decently quick

[brittle galleon]

okay okay
if one is going for a brainburster build, is it better to go with venting shriek or scrying gaze?

[zealous wing]

generally shriek, but it does depend what weapons youre using

[brittle galleon]

voidblast staff, dunno about melee yet

[zealous wing]

if you go blazing trauma, go shriek, if you go rending trauma (fireless), go scriers

[brittle galleon]

yea no fire on this ne

[zealous wing]

then scriers

[lucid fractal]

#bob

[hollow summit]

Ek shriek psyker in auric + high intensity is something

[plucky flax]

Real

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/great-good-gif-24557505

EK shriek also pretty good in H40 if no red

[radiant frigate]

were you playing h40 exclusively

[plucky flax]

Man I can't clutch on scummer

I think I should had ran and ress

Rather than fight boss and got overwhelmed by specials

[summer prairie]

easier with needler

[zealous wing]

shriek in general is good

[plucky flax]

Our team boss damage was so bad syllo

[summer prairie]

I also wasn't getting my boss toxin stacks due to running out of ammo too often

Since I was shooting at the horde sometimes and then got my elite/special kills stolen by our mostly ranged team

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

I wish switching between needler modes was smoother. Also doesn't seem like guarantee special activation works properly with it

[spice oar]

…no one said it did just now?

[sullen mango]

But needler does not make me immune to the game

[plucky flax]

I played range scum with stim keystone

[summer prairie]

Surely will still be good once ranged dodge linger is fixed

[thorn cedar]

Surely! Don't mind me, totally didn't bind dodge to left click.

[indigo plank]

This is my purgatory.

Take boss aggro, nobody kills specials.

Start killing specials, rest of entire team dies to crusher maul assassination target and go “waaaaah why aren’t you doing everything SIMULTANEOUSLY???”

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-bill-frazier-bruh-irritated-about-to-snap-gif-25015458

[wraith sphinx]

I love it when only one person in a full team does anything

[deft stump]

Reminds me why I like lower diffs at times. At least I can just solo the assassination boss then if it comes to that.

[frail osprey]

Me silently glaring at the vet with the plamsa gun not aiming at the snipers

[plucky flax]

Thats just karien

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah true...

[dull scroll]

I'm a vet main now

[deft stump]

Then IDK why are you searching malice and heresy games.

[wraith sphinx]

because damnation and auric too hard?

[deft stump]

Tru. I can meme in malice with the dumbest of dumb builds.

[sage pulsar]

Is there an order in upgrading weaponry, or does it not matter?

[marble crater]

Order as in?

[deft stump]

Likely the do I increase rarity first or power lvl first.

[zealous wing]

consecrate, then replace perks/blessings, then empower, for cheapest cost, but it is minimal

[sage pulsar]

I see, and if I'm not level 30 and doing heresy missions, should I really power focus on empowering my weapons much?

[marble crater]

If it's a weapon you like with the right dump stat then you can, but staves are weak/awkward with low stats and it's better to wait with playing them until you are a higher level

[deft stump]

I suggest saving up dockets and mats till 30 for most parts. You usually get bad ranges without a dump early on.

[sage pulsar]

bad ranges?

[deft stump]

Not minmaxxed.

As in the right number.

Earlier on, the game prefers to throw you weapons closer to 76% in every stat.

At 30, you are usually more likely to get 4x 80 1x 60.

Which, barring like 2-3 weapons, you would prefer.

I know the plasma and ripper are the only ones wanting weird god rolls.

But might have forgotten.

Ripper wants 66 ammo and rest in collateral from memory. Plasma is 68-69 thermal 72-71 charge rate.

[zealous wing]

pure 76ers tho

are also tasty

keep those

(76 in every stat)

[sage pulsar]

I'll keep that in mind

also, I'm to assume that when a weapon is max power, all stats will be max (so if it says like, 60/80 I'll end up at 80/80 when it's maxed out?

[marble crater]

Yes, you can max every weapon

Only the distribution of stats will be different and matters

[deft stump]

Yes, why you only see the second number when thinking to keep or not.

0%/80% damage is still better than a 50%/60% damage in the end. Since at 500, it'll be 80%/80%.

[sage pulsar]

then I've had some massive luck.

My force greatsword has 4x80 1x60 with 60 being warp resistance (which should be it's dumpstate, at least using hexis' build right?)

And same for the reconlas, albeit it has 79% mobility and 61% collateral.

[deft stump]

It's the general dump for FGS, yes.

[deft stump]

Recon yeah... just iff. But the 1% isn't really visible unless OCD.

[sage pulsar]

I'm not too OCD about it luckily. I'll take what I can get

[deft stump]

The only 79% you do not want is combat shotgun ammo.

[sage pulsar]

oh, any reason why?

[deft stump]

That 1% is 1 shot in the clip.

XD

You go from 12 shots to 13 on Agripinna.

[sage pulsar]

wait actually? xD

[deft stump]

Yes.

[sage pulsar]

that's... I'm not sure if that's infuriating or amazing ngl

[deft stump]

Hadron fucked two of my shotguns back in the days.

So I remember it.

[sage pulsar]

that must've sucked

[deft stump]

Considering how bad combat shotguns were but I still enjoyed it on my Zealot, yeah.

Expensive to 500 3 shotguns.

Consecrate and stuff.

Mind you, that was my first 3 500 weapons so... you know how starved new players are for resources.

[sage pulsar]

I mean I am a new player. My poor plasteel and docket supply are permanently drained.

[deft stump]

Yep. Why her bricking my stuff was rage inducing.

[sage pulsar]

yep that sounds aweful

[deft stump]

It's fixed now, unless they karked the spaghetti code somehow.

[sage pulsar]

also about curios, the percentages of base bonuses they give? Is that based on random chance, or is there a way to make the bonus higher?

[deft stump]

Is what you roll.

You can only up the rarity.

17% toughness, 21% hp, +3 stam (only 410+, rest are scams).

Those are the max.

[sage pulsar]

I see, good to know

[plucky flax]

I logged in and got this screen help D:

Where character?

[deft stump]

RIP. Random mod broke or something?

[plucky flax]

Quit and relog and it's back to normal

Was scary for a sec

But maybe fs can restore characters if they got lost somehow.

[radiant frigate]

impressive roll alhamdulillah

[zealous wing]

jesus christ thats terrifying

[zinc phoenix]

If you do anything before they fix it probably no.

It’d depend on how they do their backups of the character system and whether it’s diffs they can roll back incrementally or activity triggered full backups

Given that rollbacks are rare and storage is expensive I’d expect a single or low single digit number of activity triggered backups with some retention period at which all but the most recent can age out

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[low merlin]

Opinions on Shock Maul+Vigilant Autogun+Brain Rupture?

[plucky flax]

Sus

[hearty wolf]

Before I reinstall

Is there any cool weapons worth using

A cool melee that can deal with everything and doesn't have the dodge range of a pissant

Imagine T-hammer - but good

Or deimos i but it has light attacks

[summer prairie]

shivs have infinite dodge range on scum I guess and are good vs everything with rampage

[ripe obsidian]

T hammer is good now if used properly. Relic Blade II is better tho.

Obscurus far outperforms Deimos.

[hearty wolf]

Sounds busted

Is Scum good though 🤔

[summer prairie]

you almost have infinite dodges too due to jittery

[hearty wolf]

I think my previous issue was "Why breathe when purg will kill it all anyway 😄 "

[ripe obsidian]

Scum is the 2nd best class by a wide margin.

Psyker is 10/10, Scum is 9.5/10, everything else is 8/10 or below

[hearty wolf]

Okay

[summer prairie]

but shivs are just (generally) a slightly better combat knife, so maybe not that exciting

[hearty wolf]

You have convinced me

[hearty wolf]

I literally never used the combat knives so maybe this will be my wake up call

[ripe obsidian]

Basically everything Scum does, it's the best at it, other than toughness generation maybe

[hearty wolf]

Guess I better read the perk tree

OPh wait

I just realised

[ripe obsidian]

Shivs also have perfect attack combos

[hearty wolf]

That means I have to level

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[ripe obsidian]

LMB is entirely horizontal horde clear, RMB is entirely simgle target stabs

[hearty wolf]

I don't mind intricacies with weapons

But it would be nice to stop having to break my hand on using powersword i sup

-£10

[radiant frigate]

psyker 2 (with more substance abuse)

[hearty wolf]

Okay time to launch

I watched some of Hex's gameplay which should translate to me playing better

Medium?

[plucky flax]

Scummer D:

[low merlin]

What would be a good pair with the Vigilant Autogun for my sniper build?

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker drops if burgeratus gets its well deserved nerf

[low merlin]

Because I'm having a miserable time dealing with hordes.

[wraith sphinx]

doesn't matter the game looks pretty even on low

[zinc phoenix]

Given that the devs spent last patch buffing the non 🍔 parts of psyker it implies they’re planning to nerf the 🍔 elements since now there’s well developed gameplay alternatives to it

[low merlin]

What is burger?

Explain.

[plucky flax]

Space dog vs scummer. Makes total sense

[zinc phoenix]

Purgatus -> burgeratus -> devs renamed to inferno

[low merlin]

Okay.

[hearty wolf]

Fuck purg

[zinc phoenix]

Real and true

I’ve hated 🍔 gaming for years now

Brain dead boring ass stick

[low merlin]

But, reiterate: what would be a good pair for my Vigilant Autogun, because I'm having a miserable time with hordes.

[hearty wolf]

Is true

[zinc phoenix]

Big Fuckin Sword

Like if you can’t horde clear with bigdick mclargehuge sword you’ve broken your fingers

[low merlin]

Aight.

I forgot which one is better for horde clearing, which is it?

[full storm]

Hi for inferno staff should I still lean into crit blessings or is the antiarmor the most used nowadays?

[plucky flax]

Nexus blaze away

[low merlin]

Depends on how good your melee and blitz are at dealing with armor, really.

[lone ravine]

uncanny strike on force sword would help you deal with armor packs on purgatus

build up soul blaze then get uncanny stacks to make your DOT get rending

[full storm]

I see so crits are still better, I'm using a knife with uncany so I'm oke

[hearty wolf]

Read the skill tree for Scum

Powercreep up the wazoo?

[summer prairie]

a few issues but he doesn't have a lot of damage nodes

[hearty wolf]

How significant is the lack of damage in a h40?

[summer prairie]

he does top or close to top damage, but it's mostly due to needler/blitz/infinite ammo

[dull scroll]

scum spamming tox nade and needle easily top dmg in this rot season

non-rot season gun scum inf ammo bullet spam also easily top dps
dlc class just can't lose

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-5621418030291735983

[ripe obsidian]

This is true.

[ripe obsidian]

Toxin is almost always like 50% of an H40 scum's damage

[summer prairie]

you can do big damage with other guns too with infinite ammo

[hearty wolf]

I did my first game

was twins

Who did the most damage

[ripe obsidian]

I did.

[zinc phoenix]

Deez

[hearty wolf]

So at level 6 I can instantly kill auric reapers which is pretty cool

[ripe obsidian]

I played poorly, but look at that scum toxin

1750k of 1950k total damage

[summer prairie]

most of the "ranged" damage is enemy toxin explosions as well

[hearty wolf]

Does Scum toxin have the same thing as wildfire

i.e first stack is the owner

basically

is Six going to steal my damage >:(

[summer prairie]

all dots are like that

[verbal thistle]

all dots work like that

[hearty wolf]

I didn't know if it was a DoT since it never specified, had a suspicion though

Maybe I've played too much souls but I'm surprised there's no "Reach X stacks on enemy, then Y happens"

At least not that I can think of...

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3586590987

90% carapace ADM, btw

[plucky flax]

Only gigachads play melee scum

[buoyant maple]

yea top 3 class

[thorn cedar]

top six for sure

man i want to find a program that has keybind profiles

none are reliable for games it seems

cause where im staying rn im letting my buddy use my computer but the things he does to keybinds is borderline criminal

and i cant find an easy solution to just having a set of keybinds available on separate profiles for both of us

[hearty wolf]

I think that might be something you can macro on the keybored itself

Ohw aIT

i SEE

[thorn cedar]

you are right though

[hearty wolf]

Tell him to be normal

[thorn cedar]

some keyboards, but not our keyboards

lmao

[indigo plank]

RMB jump gamer

[thorn cedar]

i make fun of him for this constantly but alas

i mean hey it works for him

his system is heretical but it is a system

but it makes booting up battlefield a fucking nightmare for me when the grenade is F instead of G because G is now Gadget 1 and Gadget 2 is V instead of class gadget and class gadget is now mouse 5 but mouse 4 is sprint and on and on

it all feels very made up, like an alien came down and decided that all your keybinds had to be alphabetical with the actual letters on the key itself

this man is graciously hosting me in their home during a time of need so i should be kind but also AAAAAAA

[hearty wolf]

(side note, how long does Scum's stimm last? I can't see it)

[thorn cedar]

15s, 20s if you have long lasting

[hearty wolf]

Thanks

[buoyant maple]

I think they're a rly close 2nd~3rd best

[hearty wolf]

What the fuck did I just read

what a terrible time to be literate

[thorn cedar]

now imagine trying to play it

[hearty wolf]

Wait so what is his melee on

Q?

[indigo plank]

Mine was back in CodWaw

[hearty wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[indigo plank]

It was a time before additional mouse buttons became standard

And we had to share the mouse ball!

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-7641197

[vapid tinsel]

using the glorious ps/2 sockets

[sullen mango]

are the combos for FS in the atheneum still up to date?

Deimos horde is definitely wrong

Anyone has a more updated one?

[hearty wolf]

What's the source of the toxin here

[plucky flax]

The crate (ability) and the gun

[hearty wolf]

Oh needle pistol blessing?

[plucky flax]

Desperado and something

[hearty wolf]

I saw the one from the crate but didn't seem like it would produce THAT much

[plucky flax]

Maybe stripped down

Because if you take 3rd keystone and minimal cd stim

You can spam crate

Each crate is aoe 7 stacks toxin (same as a tox nade)

Well aoe is not as big

[hearty wolf]

That sounds so cheesy though

just crate dropper

drop your poop

[plucky flax]

It's a cheese class

Either range infinite ammo spam or tox spam

You can melee though and that's actually good and kind of hard

[hearty wolf]

I was gonna say

[plucky flax]

Cos you have lots of evasion but die to 1 hit

[hearty wolf]

I want to le melee

[summer prairie]

Not that hard because you've infinite dodges, only have to pay attention to rampage ending

I'm not sure if the box spam is even good for damage, I mostly just run it when there's blight and haven't been trying to get full value out of it

Can just run full power stim otherwise with the needler only build

[narrow herald]

the irony of a Psyker player saying that makes me go into a comma 🛌🏻

[plucky flax]

Hmm I'll say only purg is super cheesy

Bubble knight not so cheesy

[ripe obsidian]

Gun and grenade, mostly

[zinc phoenix]

Hard to survive the arthritis it will give you for sure

[plucky flax]

Use auto attack mod

[sullen mango]

okay but this is crazy, lost 5 times agianst the easy melee pressure (admittedly doing very dumb things like melee only on my inferno build)
put on lag compensation, won immediately

[plucky flax]

RIP finger playing shivs manually

[crisp ether]

That is, not the only cheesy build psyker has.

[zinc phoenix]

I wish instead of people having to rely on modding phatshark would just design weapons to not cause hand damage

And not pack 1 billion percent attack speed into classes to try to keep up with purgatus

[plucky flax]

I guess smite spam is cheesy too but I don't really see it in havoc (I also don't accept smiter into my lobby)

[crisp ether]

There's also trauma staff staggering everything.
Scrier's gaze giving astronomical amounts of damage with literally no drawback if only making psyker even safer somehow.

M1 EK staff quite literally invalidating Auric runs

There's a lot of stupid stuff you can do with psyker lol

Oh scrier's with EK staff M1 spam

I've seen people actually get kicked for using that.

And I have at one point lmao

[plucky flax]

You barely see them in havoc.

[acoustic jacinth]

is there any mod to quiet down voidblast? especially when tap quelling with it i can barely hear my mate, no matter how much i try to balance audio

[plucky flax]

99% psykers in havoc run purg with bubble/shriek.

As for auric, anything works there tbh... so all classes super strong for that mode.

[acoustic jacinth]

ainz's SG soulblaze vb was quite the thing to see

i'll give it a try soon

but i am afraid for my ears once more with it..

[crisp ether]

See but I'm not talking about Havoc. I'm talking just in general.

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d port over sienna’s fireball

It’s so much more fun than the staves we actually have 😞

[plucky flax]

Sry i was talking about havoc cos I dont play auric

[zinc phoenix]

“Aim this wacky ball without hitting teammates”

[crisp ether]

Havoc is an outlier where it makes sense to use the strongest things.

[zinc phoenix]

Havoc is where people go to watch tox scum and 🍔 psyker race on dps against rotten stim crushers

[plucky flax]

Im not good enough for auric

[crisp ether]

Truke

[white sky]

Sienna is just more fun psyker tbh

Psyker but you kinda have to use your brain

[zinc phoenix]

I mean no, I still get brainless gaming because I stack enough BCR to go afk for ten minutes while the weak wristed ratties flail away

But I like having to predict where the ball will fall and I love barbecuing teammates

[white sky]

Lmfao that's fair

[zinc phoenix]

The hardest part about vt2 is remembering that you hit block when the ass rat manifests, not stab

[crisp ether]

Admittedly this does bring up something I've been feeling. I never had an issue with psyker being strong.

Psyker was my main previously but that was when I liked that psyker was the high high low low class.

It's just.

So safe now.

[white sky]

I don't even know what my psyker build does

I stole it from ainz and it just kills everything and I don't die

I press F go "hehe scriers" and win

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker needs to lose some toughness regen or some damage resist nodes.

My vote is toward DR nodes.

[crisp ether]

Also Scriers

Why does it quell peril now?

[ripe obsidian]

I think being squishy but having lots of toughness regen is good design. It means you can make a mistake and recover from it, but two mistakes is death.

[crisp ether]

Maybe I'm just crazy.

[ripe obsidian]

because otherwise you get no bonuses from it is the main reason. Use it at 80% peril and instantly go into Warp Unbound.

[crisp ether]

I mean, the deal was to not use it at high peril. Which, you will always have a way to quell before casting it since if not a staff, the blitzes will let you. I liked when Scrier's actually felt risky to use.

[ripe obsidian]

I wasn't saying it's a good reason.

Just explaining why it's done.

[crisp ether]

And you had to actually manage your peril to get the most out of it.

[ripe obsidian]

The problem is that now it's a matter of, "When do I use SG?" and the answer is "Yes."

As opposed to making a meaningful choice

[crisp ether]

Now it is, quite literally the safest psyker ability by design.

[ripe obsidian]

SG is too stacked.

Let's give it gold toughness and attack speed.

I think Fatshark probably has an issue of telemetry versus actually playing the game.

In telemetry, bubble is almost definitely the most used, then shriek, then SG.

[crisp ether]

College essay ah description.

[ripe obsidian]

And SG is probably used at a much higher rate by good players than newbies.

So you have the balance issue of, "90% of people below H40 don't use SG. How do we make it appealing to them without making it broken?" And you just can't.

Same thing is seen in any game with a large skill difference in the playerbase

[thorn cedar]

This is why. They want all options to look viable to all spectrum of players. They aren't really concerned with making Havoc 40 balanced or whatever, they want balance in the sense of gameplay variety.

[ripe obsidian]

Certain things would need a total rework in order to be "balanced"

[thorn cedar]

Like XStance has been good for a while now too and now with the tree rework it's insanely juiced. But that's what it takes to make it less intimidating for newer players.

Bubble is safe. Shriek is safe. Scriers was just a steroid (a really good one -- insanely good actually) but it couldn't save you from Perils and it doesn't turn an entire room into a safe space.

I will say though that having Quell on Scriers is still quite nice for Havocs too cause it makes Warp Unbound less absurdly mandatory. So I'm cool with it.

[crisp ether]

I feel like both shouldn't exist if I'll be real.

Maybe one or the other.

But not both.

Because in a lot of cases, it becomes an infinite feedback loop where you never actually have to worry about peril again.

Because of the ability counting down while active too.

[thorn cedar]

i think that's less Scriers and more the ridiculous CDR that Psyker has baked into their kit

[crisp ether]

That too.

[thorn cedar]

(Psyk Aura, prime offender)

[crisp ether]

Since, anyone can contribute to that cooldown.

[ripe obsidian]

Oggies have the same.

[thorn cedar]

cause yea in high Havocs with active quell being horribly nerfed you basically couldnt run Scriers as anything other than a Warp Unbound on button

[crisp ether]

True, but I don't think it's as aggregious in oggy's case because of how their abilities work.

...Other than ogrynheimer but that's an outlier.

[ripe obsidian]

Elaborate?

[crisp ether]

Only one of Ogryn's abilities have a short enough cooldown where this can result in it feeling really spammable, that being Indomitable. The other ones have a noticeably longer cooldown.

The longest cooldown for Psyker is shield but, that's 45s which is still pretty good. And then you have warp charges on top of that to decrease it further if you go that route.

What's crazy to me is that Scrier's baseline cooldown is only 25s for everything that it provides.

[ripe obsidian]

SG is 25s because it didn't previously get reduced by Psykinetic's Aura, afaik

While in SG, I mean.

Now it does.

So you can have SG up again before WU even ends

[crisp ether]

It does, but it ends up with it being way more easy to upkeep as a whole because it counts down.

[ripe obsidian]

It's a lesson they learned with Scum, with Rampage and whatever the gun one is called

Because those don't cooldown while active

[crisp ether]

Yeah fact that both of those Scum abilities don't count down while Scrier's does

Is kinda outrageous.

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker needs some tweaks. But they need to be careful, I think, because unlike Path's idea of 95+ nerfs, I think Psyker is on a razor's edge of OP

Something like removing infinite cleave on Inferno would kick us right off the edge

Especially now that Toxin exists

[crisp ether]

I mean I think toxin is pretty busted in its own right too. But I feel that's more because you have a means to apply it infinitely.

Pickpocket needs a touch up.

[ripe obsidian]

Toxin has 90% ADM on carapace.

Soulblaze, I think, is 5%

[crisp ether]

I think the ADM could do with a bit of a nerf. But I do think the issue with toxin is more around it being so easy to apply in general with the appropriate setups.

[ripe obsidian]

I had a game today where the scum did 1.95m damage

1.75m of it was toxin

[crisp ether]

It's why I've been actively avoiding using pickpocket with needler tbh

It is admittedly pretty cheesy.

Though, I do understand why one would feel the need to go that route with rotten armor.

[ripe obsidian]

It means that Superiority on my force swords is kinda pointless

Takes too long to apply uncanny

Enemies die before I can scale my soulblaze

[crisp ether]

Besides. Finessemaxx melee scum is just more fun for rotten armor B)

[ripe obsidian]

I'm trying and failing to run Arby into rotten armor.

[crisp ether]

Arby is a weird one for rotten armor.

It doesn't have as many things to abuse to get around their defenses.

But

[ripe obsidian]

It is true. I end up doing damage too slowly to outpace the trickle hordes. If my team doesn't help me, I just get slowly pushed back.

[crisp ether]

I will argue that a BtL arby is pretty valuable for it because they can control the pacing of fights.

[ripe obsidian]

And I can only control so many enemies before one or two crushers sneak past and bully the squishies

[crisp ether]

But they themselves just don't have the damage output because of how rotten armor works.

Turns out, starting an enemy at baseline 75% DR for anything but DoTs and explosive damage

Is probably not a great idea for class variety.

[verbal thistle]

90%

[ripe obsidian]

75%

[verbal thistle]

ah

ohhh

its 90% hp

[ripe obsidian]

• At >=90% hp, unit recieves 75% damage reduction. Between 75% and 90%, the unit recieves 50% DR. Between 50% and 75% the unit recieves 25% DR. Between 0% and 25% the unit recieves 25% extra damage

[verbal thistle]

yeah

swapped the names

rot is so fun

I almost finished a 2 hour long rot red excise vault run on zealot

then buggy burster....

[crisp ether]

...

Two

Hours?

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[crisp ether]

Look. I said it once and I'll say it again.

If I have to avoid drinking water to play a run in this game.

There's probably a big issue.

[ripe obsidian]

I think rot is fun with a coordinated team who knows what they're doing. I think rot is deeply frustrating otherwise.

[verbal thistle]

I was drinking wataer

the director does stop spawning enemies

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz fuckin' alt-tabs and types during games.

[verbal thistle]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

He's a monster.

[crisp ether]

I usually play with randoms and uh

Yeah.

[verbal thistle]

you can always tell when the director runs out of tickets

[crisp ether]

It's rough out there.

[verbal thistle]

thats when you take a minor break

[cedar delta]

i love playing with randoms

[crisp ether]

I actually ran into Ainz once doing that but that was when I first started getting an idea of how rotten armor works.

And I got my shit kicked in.

Only to realize it wasn't even working properly technically.

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz always rejects me when I request to join games. :<

[verbal thistle]

psykers are rare accepts

[ripe obsidian]

</3

[verbal thistle]

only if they look like new players or have melee builds

what is the most accurate scoreboard that isnt PowerDI

I might get it for my solo

[crisp ether]

Ovenproof?

I usually use scoreboard with vermintide plugin cuz it's shrimple

[ripe obsidian]

I've been trying melee Psyker in Havoc. Mixed results.

Feels better than Arby, tbh

[crisp ether]

i have been runnin the funny wholesome fatmangus build but also with more movement because i like being fast in havoc

I'm surprised by how well it works.

Even in Rotten Armor, it does actually hold up.

[ornate hamlet]

Me seeing a rager crowd two meters away from the vet:

[brazen compass]

I'll always accept you

[crisp ether]

The mutant making their way towards me and I just got my ability off cooldown 😎

[ornate hamlet]

I love the little thought moments I have with those

[ripe obsidian]

I will try to make you lose only 1/3 of the games

[brazen compass]

I trust that we won't lose any

[ornate hamlet]

Once I had a burster coming from behind a crusher, so I timed it for when the burster was near the crusher and just knocked them both down

[crisp ether]

also fatmangus build letting you take care of a bugged ritual from afar

peak

[ornate hamlet]

Easier than risking me dodging away from the push range at the wrong time

I like doing it with other push abilities too, like zealot's dash

[brazen compass]

I'll fat your mangus

[ornate hamlet]

Did I ever mention I actually only used the dash to push bursters back when I started the game?

I had it figured out and didn't notice

Then I saw someone actually pushing the burster and my brain just did 2+2

[ripe obsidian]

wot be this build?

[crisp ether]

#zealot-class message

[ornate hamlet]

vroom

[crisp ether]

That's how I've been running it personally.

But the main three talents needed are Faith's Fortitude, Restoring Faith and Bleed for the Emperor.

Because as it turns out, having all health curios with those three talents.

Result in some crazy damage resistance actually.

[cedar delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_soAQB2ZXs

[crisp ether]

Like, eating rotten armor overheads level of damage resistance.

[ripe obsidian]

I saw someone run a similar build. I think Mk II relic blade. Guy was a menace.

[crisp ether]

It has taken my spot as my favorite build for havoc ngl

When I managed to stop a bugged ritual during a havoc I was doing last night, I was absolutely sold.

[verbal thistle]

make solo H40 way easier

[brazen compass]

Is that th final form of your stealth build you shared with me?

[crisp ether]

Yes.

[ornate hamlet]

stelf

[crisp ether]

And I would highly recommend it.

[ornate hamlet]

sneaky beaky like

[crisp ether]

It's not only good.

It's fun.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/peaches-the-dog-damian-walter-hitting-gif-16355532

Fun mentioned

[brazen compass]

My favorite build is still my humble perfect striker evis

[ornate hamlet]

Perfect strike enjoyers rise uh

up

rise uh the uh

[brazen compass]

But I will give yours another go, since you're sharing

[crisp ether]

Make sure you give yourself all health curios.

It's fundamental to how the setup works.

[brazen compass]

[crisp ether]

Maybe could fit in a stamina? But toughness curios are not the play here.

Honestly, you could probably shake it up a little to make a variation for eviscerator tbh

Since it's only three baseline talents you need.

[brazen compass]

It's been on the backburner since I played it the first time

It's a fun (and good!) build but FotF just suits my playstyle better

I'll give 'er another go though

[crisp ether]

Oh I mean, you can probably just move around talents to make it work with FotF

Since fatmangus made two versions with both shroud and FotF

All you really need are those three talents. Everything else around it is up to preference really. With the recommendation that you take at least one of the DR talents like Good Balance or Hubris.

[brazen compass]

Ah alright then

I'll give it a try later

Resting up before I start my second shift

I just love the feeling of dueling with the evis

[thorn cedar]

gunker gang gunker gang

[spice aurora]

maybe ill just wait for reset

[zinc phoenix]

God says you’re done with Darktide for today 😂

[crisp ether]

and it's Enclavum Baross too

[ripe obsidian]

I think I determined a significant portion of why I have been playing like crap lately.

I haven't been taking my ADHD meds over the break.

[visual trellis]

I finally understand psyker

[verbal thistle]

Plus 3 wounds and crystaline will?

[spice aurora]

martyr psykr

[ripe obsidian]

I just would have had a 0 damage taken H40

But a bugged ritual started as twins spawned

Fuckin' rude.

[wraith sphinx]

MARTYRDOM PSYKER IS REEEEEAL

[ripe obsidian]

We still won, but I took 57 damage from the DH aura

This is when I remember to take my ADHD meds.

Versus forgetting

[steel flame]

A kindred spirit. Sadly I take quick release cause I don't enjoy being keyed up all the time and if I take them late I get zero sleep. As luck would have it the only time I get to play is super late after work

[ripe obsidian]

I tried quick release, but it wears off way too quickly. Like under 4 hours

Extended release lasts maybe 8-10

But I am finding that my reaction speed and threat assessment is so much better when on the meds. Like, I have a much stronger sense of where is safe, what I need to kill, etc.

[fresh reef]

What would be the best setup (including weapons and curios) to roleplay as a Diviner?

[steel flame]

yeah 2 is enough to get me through my work day but wears off fast enough to let me sleep, and its not a build up dose so i can take it only when i want without having issues

[ripe obsidian]

Elaborate on what a diviner is pls

[steel flame]

a scrier

sees the future kinda shit

@fresh reef do elaborate tho

[ripe obsidian]

I might consider it. I recently stopped anti-anxiety and anti-depressants because they were making me feel like nothing mattered. Not in a depressed sense, but like, I just didn't care about getting work done or going places or whatever else.

[ripe obsidian]

Then mostly the right side of the tree. Homing missile blitz (I know where they will be!), crit aura to know weak spots, SG because obviously, and DD for predicting which enemies must die.

[fresh reef]

like, someone you don't know is a psyker because the only power they have is being insanely lucky for no reason

[zealous wing]

gunker, kinetic flayer, no fire

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

[zealous wing]

scriers as the ability for sure

and DD keystone ofc, because gunker

but you could also frame warp siphons damage boost and CDR as luck

especially since its chance based

but DD will show you a target, sometimes through walls, and through pox gas/vent purge/lights out, so its probably just choice there which you do

[ripe obsidian]

Psychic Vampire is bad and should feel bad

[zealous wing]

its not bad though

definitely would go IFR if theres a flame-having psyker but, theres not always a flame-having psyker who's good enough to upkeep it for you

[ripe obsidian]

It is bad. >:(

:(

I still pick it if there's no fire

But I am not happy about it

[steel flame]

definelty empathic evasion, sciers with some dd

probably laspistol

[ripe obsidian]

My general view of Psychic Vampire is that 1 charge per 25 kills in coherency (on average) is pretty low. By the time your ability is off cooldown from things like Psykinetic’s Aura, you have probably gained 3 or fewer charges from Psychic Vampire. I usually find myself at like 3-4 charges when my ability is up (if I didn't get many elite kills) rather than the near-guaranteed 6 from IFR.

It's not insignificant, but it's just so much worse than IFR

Since IFR is just enemies dying while on fire, not dying to fire, and has no range limit.

I'll often get 3 charges immediately after Shrieking into a horde

But I also just really like spreading fire.

I gotta play more toxin scum. DoTs for days

[wind shuttle]

Should I run riposte and uncanny strike on the maccabian or switch thrust with riposte?

[dull scroll]

thrust is better, unless you planning on running a melee build using the ds as a main weapon

[chrome ether]

What laspistol mk do you guys run?

and in what builds would each shine

[dull scroll]

the faster firing one, on melee psykers

[chrome ether]

ty

[steel flame]

wait a second

they they stop auric maelstrom from showing on the mission board by accident

i swear to god i just did two maelstroms on auric dif and they were so barren i though i clicked the wrong button

its showing the same maeltrom for both heresy and auric but none for damnation

wtf

what did they fuck up here

[peak sundial]

ooh
rebbit says this is good or something probably

[zealous wing]

damnation does not have maelstroms

[steel flame]

wow i wish had that luck for force swords

[zealous wing]

has not, does not

[steel flame]

i really despise the new mission board

have i ever said that

it sucks to look at

im still thinking in terms of auric and everything else when you had to click to go to auric. i forgot regular maelstrom is heresy

shit maybe spawns just broke two auric maelstroms in a row

this is hands down one of the saddest auric maelstrom scoreboards ive ever seen

\

i legit thought i clicked on heresy maelstrom more than once

has to be broken spawns right?

[ripe obsidian]

Added.

[steel flame]

im might sound like an idiot but added to what?

[ripe obsidian]

the build guide

ya goofus

[steel flame]

lol

im torid

man im lovin shred in the build now. much nicer than riposte in a body press horde

especially since thats when blazing spirit cranks the hardest. the more stuff i can hit with mah cleave the more shit on the back end of the swing gets lit the fuck up

[ripe obsidian]

@radiant frigate
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GUOpk1Chd7s

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie what's your toxin build?

I think you take more nodes on bottom right than me

[ripe obsidian]

I am not Syllo, but I have seen a lot of variations of this, with the last point going into cleave in the middle or jittery to be dodgier

[steel flame]

thats absolute gold

[summer prairie]

That one had no keystone so took the toxin enemy damage reduction

And the top left node for more damage when holding your ranged weapon, since that applies to toxin

[quartz barn]

This is fairly normal

[steel flame]

huh, i dont do maelstrom much,

[plucky flax]

Oh that applies to toxin?

[quartz barn]

The difference is in the missions themselves in terms of length

[plucky flax]

I don't have that top left node

Based

[quartz barn]

So for some the dmg is higher

Other than that its bad teams stalling

[steel flame]

oh no, you dont understand, there were less enemies than a baseline auric mission

[plucky flax]

In your face?

[steel flame]

it was BIZZARE

it didnt even spawn trash mobs at the mid event

[summer prairie]

Yes

[quartz barn]

Yes that can just happen

[plucky flax]

That increases toxin? It says ranged damage

[summer prairie]

Check the guide

[plucky flax]

I see

I need to take that then

[summer prairie]

It's all damage when holding your ranged weapon

Just based on distance

[plucky flax]

I want to fit in hyper crit too for more horde clear when using melee but I don't have too many points

[summer prairie]

I've it but usually the supply explosion clears the horde if I'm stuck

[plucky flax]

Does unload buff toxin?

Or is that real ranged damage

[summer prairie]

I think that's ranged only

Quick and deadly is all damage

[plucky flax]

I can't fit in hyper crit

I guess crate explosion it is

[ripe obsidian]

Would this work?

[plucky flax]

No jitter

I'm not that good

[ripe obsidian]

Drop the toughness node on the keystone?

[plucky flax]

Nah I just won't take hyper crit

I don't need it if I am shooting mostly

[ripe obsidian]

Look at this toxin damage

[plucky flax]

That's normal? I haven't finalised my build and did similar.

[ripe obsidian]

Not saying it isn't normal

Just saying it's kinda dumb

[plucky flax]

Also that guy barely melee at all

I melee a bit more.

Not much but a bit more.

Or run vraks and steal the needler's guy ammo

[ripe obsidian]

I am curious to see how your toxin build ends up

[plucky flax]

It'll be nothing special.

I don't even like scum.

Admittedly ranged scum is kind of funny

[ripe obsidian]

It's special because you made it.

I like Scum, just not as much as Psyker or Arby

[plucky flax]

Best thing about scum
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1457101447450853507/Desktop_2026.01.03_-_19.59.39.08.mp4?ex=695c1878&is=695ac6f8&hm=0410daa7b4a3826ee693e4517a6c4a2bdc92e9978ca8a9b8ed4cb19fb0654956&

RPG!!!!

[steel flame]

i dunno man, nothin about scum screams to me to play it for any particular reason

unlimited dakka is fun at times but kinda gets....i dunno? boring?

[ripe obsidian]

RPG is fantastic.

[steel flame]

and the rpg is just funny

[ripe obsidian]

Scum is for the Elf players from VT2. Is fast, is stabby, can rage at teammates for not protecting you

[steel flame]

THE ELF IS HORIZONTAL

quick tbag the elf

[plucky flax]

Nothing is as cool as fgs slice tho
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1456557574555046129/Desktop_2026.01.02_-_07.59.14.04.mp4?ex=695c1833&is=695ac6b3&hm=35ed08d340a444d17307d472b70bdb3f7fd9dbfc676d1413c910f8f1716c6448&

1 bar slice spam to horde clear

[ripe obsidian]

Is 1 bar enough for mixed hordes?

[plucky flax]

Not elites

But you use heavies for elites

[steel flame]

nothing feels cooler than warp slicing through a horde and popping a special on the other side through a wall with kinetic flayer

[plucky flax]

With enough buffs 1 bar is enough to kill chaffs in h40 so just spam that and the elites left can get heavies down

[steel flame]

you might have a sniper rifle but I HAVE A SWORD, AND THESE COOL BRAIN POWERS I FOUND

that and undogging people through walls with warp slice that have already given up on being saved

[ripe obsidian]

Anyone wanna play Havoc? I wanna try out a surge surge shriek build. Because... I dunno, seems fun

[steel flame]

zazy goin to bed like a whimp

ta

[summer prairie]

What do you take the keystone for even, just for some crit for your needle?

[ripe obsidian]

I have no idea. I haven't played with this build. I am just pondering things.

[plucky flax]

Guess so

Actually thinking of that I don't need keystone

Can use it for hyper crit for better melee

[summer prairie]

I've something like this when needler only

could take melee toxin stacks for easier boss upkeep

[plucky flax]

Ye i would

But toughness gen is kind of shit no?

[summer prairie]

I don't notice it currently due to the broken ranged linger, can just spam melee a bit

the ranged toughness node don't work on toxin anyway

[plucky flax]

I used keystone for 50% toughness on crate tbf

[summer prairie]

oh yeah that's pretty good on low cooldown

[plucky flax]

But if I play more carefully

Maybe not needed

[summer prairie]

I only notice the lack of toughness when solo

[plucky flax]

I have to solo often cos team get overwhelmed by horde somehow even with burga

Kinda sus

[summer prairie]

When I run dependency I use this and rotate between melee and needler based on rampage uptime mostly. Not sure if the cleave node is worth

[hearty wolf]

Can we can take my level 12 Hivescum 🤔

[summer prairie]

I could play a round

[ripe obsidian]

I do not think it will let you into havoc

I just did a mid-30s to test the build. I died because my team decided to fight poxwalkers instead of getting me off a ledge.

[plucky flax]

Real

[ripe obsidian]

Inviteth me if thou art about, please

[potent echo]

How did you have most enemies staggered lol

Oh shriek

[summer prairie]

9207756629

[ripe obsidian]

yeah, shriekin' folks

@deft stump

[hearty wolf]

Not with that attitude

[hearty wolf]

Now that I think about it

How does any team ever lose when force push exists 🤔

[radiant frigate]

collective skill issue

[ripe obsidian]

Syllogism is better at EK than me.

(and better at the game, but)

[deft stump]

Thanks you two, lul.

[deft stump]

(Why do you think I poke both of them to carry me who panic every single time I see a trapper or a red crusher?)

Oh, I just remembered I forgot to swap off the shotgun.

Whoops.

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh I think I did decently, especially trying a goofy build like LMB EK + Shriek

I think I'll swap to FGS for better boss and crusher handling

[hearty wolf]

Speaking about red crushers

[deft stump]

Also, do I actually just magdump bosses with the shotgun?

[hearty wolf]

What are the cancer modifiers this season?

[ripe obsidian]

I have no idea tbh

[ripe obsidian]

Blight, rituals, rotten armor, final toll

[hearty wolf]

Mm rotten armour final toll sounds very fun

[deft stump]

Extra cancer because they basically buffed crushers and rotten.

[ripe obsidian]

Better than rotten armor + purple or rotten armor + stimms

[hearty wolf]

Oh yeah they gave crushers more health iirc

What did they do to rotten to buff it?

[ripe obsidian]

affects melee damage

[hearty wolf]

LOL

[deft stump]

You now do no damage till they hit 25% hp.

[hearty wolf]

SO THEY HAVE LIKE 80% DR

[ripe obsidian]

If you hit breakpoints perfectly, rotten armor enemies have 150% EHP against melee and ranged.

[hearty wolf]

Can thunderhanmer even 1 shot them with full thrust? No right?

[deft stump]

Nope.

[ripe obsidian]

Here is a t hammer against a burgle

Same hit versus rotten crusher

[deft stump]

The same build that 1 shots DH won't 1 hit a rot crusher.

[ripe obsidian]

You can get it to 1-bop territory with a little work

[hearty wolf]

LOL

[hearty wolf]

I guess it's a bit cheat since burgle back spot is like giga weak but yeah still that's dumb AF

[ripe obsidian]

This clip is stacking more damage buffs

headtaker and something else

[hearty wolf]

Oh nice

[ripe obsidian]

• At >=90% hp, unit recieves 75% damage reduction. Between 75% and 90%, the unit recieves 50% DR. Between 50% and 75% the unit recieves 25% DR. Between 0% and 25% the unit recieves 25% extra damage

[hearty wolf]

Still that's all fun but you've got to to do that against 15 of them coming towards you

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, doesn't work

The best zealot builds I have seen recently have been relic blade II + stealth.

[deft stump]

So, they are basically invul if fart gas.

[hearty wolf]

Very interesting that we've looped into stealth

That might be kind of fun actually...

[deft stump]

Thanks Fatshark, clearly not playtested.

[ripe obsidian]

Stealth + martyrdom + cooldown on kill node means you can stealth like every 20 seconds

And one-hit bosses easily

[hearty wolf]

With relic blade?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[hearty wolf]

Interesting

[ripe obsidian]

There's an NAE Zealot I see now and again who is a monster with relic blade + stealth.

Guy has hard carried me

He rips through bosses like they're nothing

[hearty wolf]

I will investigate this playstyle as it sounds like something that purg cannot do

[ripe obsidian]

I can get you his build, hold on

[hearty wolf]

Thankies

I wish Arb had better weapon choice I think. I wanna BTL things

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, 20 seconds was too high. Thought stealth was a 45-second base CD

You can stealth like every 12 seconds

[hearty wolf]

That's pretty sick

[hearty wolf]

So do you proc marty on purpose or no?

[ripe obsidian]

Absolutely.

Martyrdom is far and away Zealot's best keystone now

[hearty wolf]

I see the vision

I will become purple Zealot

Can't die if you can't die

[ripe obsidian]

And the weapons

[hearty wolf]

It was already pretty good in terms of stats but what did they do to it?

[hearty wolf]

Oh cool, that's what I already have

Excuse me what

50% CDR LOL?

[ripe obsidian]

That's the biggest thing.

[hearty wolf]

I'm at work but

I'm going to log on

Don't tell the company

[ripe obsidian]

Note that 50% means 1.5 seconds of CD per 1 second elapsed

but also

So 30 seconds minus 4.5, 9, or 15 seconds

Then /1.5

plus CDR curios or psyker aura

[hearty wolf]

Jesus Christ

[ripe obsidian]

w/o curios or the aura, killing an ogryn enemy is a 14 second shroudfield CD, killing a boss means 10 seconds total CD

[hearty wolf]

I want my Shade dual daggers back

Give Shivs to Zealot

[ripe obsidian]

but yeah, 15 seconds or less CD on stealth pretty easily

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/bound-by-duty-free-update-out-now/112661

these are the relevant patch notes

[hearty wolf]

For some reason, my game is ultra laggy in the menus

Like my mouse is 2fps

The game is running at 280 tho

[ripe obsidian]

Weird

Mods?

[hearty wolf]

None installed ATM

[ripe obsidian]

Then I dunno

[hearty wolf]

Oh god

I tried to go into the meat grinder menu and it almost exploded

Maybe I verify files

[deft stump]

WDYM exploded?

[hearty wolf]

Went to like 5 FPS while trying to load

[deft stump]

Oh. I wonder if some settings got karked as well.

[ripe obsidian]

I wonder if Empyric Shock is worth it on LMB EK + Shriek. I feel like... maybe? Many things die in 1-2 hits, so they aren't getting lots of the debuff. But it would affect soulblaze as well

[zealous wing]

its very similar to surge surge so i'd say yes

[ripe obsidian]

This is the build I'm playing with. It's fun.

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz doesn't use ES on EK + Shriek. For some reason.

[zealous wing]

ainz is more patient

things will still die, eventually

[ripe obsidian]

Patient I am not.

I wanna go zoom and pew and screech

[zealous wing]

like, you could take a white EK to h40, things will still EVENTUALLY die

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-speech-love-victory-screech-gif-5464277

[acoustic jacinth]

Spent a few hours with it yesterday and i gotta say the voidblast SG build was fairly fun

[ripe obsidian]

Any build with FIRE is fun.

[acoustic jacinth]

I've got shitty memory too so i'm not all that consistent with my shriek sometimes anyways... might be a better fit for me

And yes

-9 second cooldown

Yet i still forget

I fear for my old age

My beloved will aid me though i'm sure

[deft stump]

Why do you think I forget my ults unless....

PANIC AUHFUHFHUSDUDHUDHGHUDHUODIFUHDDFUH CRUSHER UIIUSDFFHUISDOFHUSFHOU

[acoustic jacinth]

I feel so fucking stupid sometimes genuinely

Having to actually say stuff like

"You told me 2 minutes ago, but i forgot the name of it man"

[zealous wing]

ADHD mood

[deft stump]

It happens. It only gets worse.

[ripe obsidian]

Without taking ADHD meds, I lost 15 H40s in a row (on Arby). After taking them, I won like 5 or 6 of 9 or 10 games. So.

[zealous wing]

i dont take any, and i am horribly disregulated ||i should probably try harder to get an appointment to get medicated but meh||

sometimes i am a gaming god, sometimes i die 17 times in a single auric

[ripe obsidian]

I went 31 years without any kind of medication. I'm still having issues.

Stopped taking the anti-anxiety and anti-depressant for now.

Because I was just... not bothered by things, and unmotivated to do anything

[deft stump]

Hey, when it's that expensive, you just deal with it.

[ripe obsidian]

It wasn't the price. Sometimes. It was that I had never been diagnosed. Had never considered I had ADHD

[zealous wing]

i used to be medicated, hated the way it made me feel, but looking back it was very likely way too strong throughout my childhood because the autism went unnoticed, somehow, it was only allowed to be ADHD , which, when the meds didnt help, they made the dose higher until it did something

i took a very large dose in the morning, slow release, then a fast release in the early afternoon

which, does explain why its "i hate the way it makes me feel", if its way too much

[cursive hull]

For a melee/gun psyker scrier's gaze build, if you can only have 2 talents out of immaterial focus, one with the warp and just a dream, which two should you pick?

[zealous wing]

owtw, then preference

if you spend a lot of time at critical, IF, if you dont, JaD

(JaD can make you spend a lot of time at critical)

[cursive hull]

Would it be worth getting rid of empathic evasion to get all three?

[zealous wing]

no

not even close

[cursive hull]

aight

[deft stump]

Thing is, diagnosis is also very expensive.

It's the reason why the only thing I can confirm I have is... High Functioning Autism.

Yes, they used to call it that.

THey still do here.

[zealous wing]

i was an "extremely disturbed child"

[deft stump]

I know it'll get people screeching on it.

[zealous wing]

according to my ADHD diagnosis paperwork anyway

[deft stump]

I'm a "broken record player".

So uhh... Yeah.

[zealous wing]

i read the transcript on rare occasion sometimes, like, how did they not even suspect the autism

some people, you just gotta wonder

[steep coral]

guys any tips how to do the power up penance for syker?

[plucky flax]

I dont think i even have any of them

[cursive hull]

for almost every class in the game I'd reeeaaally like an extra one or two more talent points

[ripe obsidian]

That is intentional

[deft stump]

Because it's not like boys.

[ripe obsidian]

Fatshark's design philosophy is to leave you wishing you had like 3 more points. Not their worst decision.

[ripe obsidian]

Which part is causing you difficulties?

[steep coral]

100 elite kills with brain burst but be 100%

[ripe obsidian]

Not 100% peril.

Warp Siphon charges.

[steep coral]

ahhh

[ripe obsidian]

Fatshark wording is unmatched.

Is why people like Kuli have to go through and explain things.

Because Fatshark words things terribly and hides information from players.

[zealous wing]

for once i disagree, feels straightforward to me

[steep coral]

yea its probly my bad, im new to syker

[ripe obsidian]

The keystone isn't called Warp Charge

That's the confusing part

[steep coral]

yea its warp siphon

[ripe obsidian]

Still better than Scum's Cartel Special

Unless they changed it, scum has a bunch of penances referencing the cartel special

Which is not named as such anywhere in the game

[zealous wing]

but it

but it is tho

[ripe obsidian]

It wasn't before.

Hence me saying they might have changed it

[zealous wing]

i feel like the help menu was there the whole time but no way to verify

[modest perch]

it was but i skipped it

[chrome ether]

What relic blade mk do you guys tend to run?

[ripe obsidian]

Help menu was there. It was worded differently

[acoustic jacinth]

MkX has a simpler moveset that will suffice. MkII has the advantage of uppercuts and a good push attack string, though a more complicated moveset. The difference is tolerable enough for you to make your own choice

[zealous wing]

meanwhile i was just gonna assume they meant the FGS, in which case, 6

[chrome ether]

ty

[acoustic jacinth]

You're probably right

But we got both covered

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-count-six-count6-countsix-gif-25834667

[chrome ether]

Are the FGS movesets the same as the relic blade?

[acoustic jacinth]

Some of the moves are but not enough to compare them like that

Mk6 fgs my beloved

[hearty wolf]

I found the fix

It's uh

Open task manager

That's it

Don't do anything else

And that for some reason fixes it unless I go back into a menu

[zealous wing]

the threat of death usually works

[hearty wolf]

Then I have to open task manager again

Oh btw Hex

You might want to jump with Trauma more

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-hop-hopping-excited-gif-10688626678004474091

[zealous wing]

you gonna tell me why or is it just for a very slight increase in range

[hearty wolf]

Yeah, second thing.

You had a few instances where you were missing a very juicy void blast or opted to lmb spam when you were barely out of range

It's not major at all, but just something to consider that it's something you can do

[zealous wing]

i'll try to keep it in mind

[hearty wolf]

So

Frame generation has fixed the menus

But my CPU is at 5% usage

It's still at 120fps with everything maxed though

This game's RAM usage is absolutely insane though

[deft stump]

Why do you think I'm considering just shoving back the 16GB I took out to see if it runs better?

My PC freezes up faster likely due to running out of RAM.

Because you know how browsers nowadays just.

16GB is free.

Like Sugar and American snacks.

[hearty wolf]

Well Karien, at least you know this game consistently runs like shit xd

[deft stump]

It's worse now.

Play H40 and win... Game is now perma 40 FPS avg.

Untill restart.

Normally is 70~ on mourningstar.

Yes, I lost 20 FPS from Ganger release.

Is fine, it's still more than 60.

[hearty wolf]

I'm now getting an average of 40

I didn't change anything

[deft stump]

Obese Megalodon quality optimizations.

[restive crown]

For me the game runs worse if I play as Arbites than as Psyker for some reason

Very CPU limited on an 5800X3D

[restive roost]

I bought it back in 2022 and I stopped playing it cause it ran so bad on my PC. But I'll cut Chubby Dofgish some slack since it runs so well when I picked it up again last year.

[hearty wolf]

My 5600x appears to run this game better than my 9800x3d at the moment

[deft stump]

Because doggy. If you played Arby release... Mourningstar would tank cos like 20 dogs running around.

[weary crane]

Honestly really easy compared to the trigger less than 3 bombs one

[zealous wing]

i got the 3 bomb one by accident

forever ago

[plucky flax]

Short answer: just play more

[summer prairie]

Just joined a game

[zealous wing]

easy enough to explain. scriers is for more damage. use when you want to hit things. scriers also has a node that makes you not explode at 100. how to manage peril? cast, quell, cast, quell. there. i did your job :D now you can go take all the credit

[hearty wolf]

Play Scum

[plucky flax]

Thats not me

[pine elk]

I have a question,

is full electric psyker (specifically smite + electrokinetic) viable?

with bubble because using scrier's gaze with smite is a no-no for me

[tiny tartan]

The psyker sword beam, if I put increased melee crit chance, does it effect the crit on the beam?

[pine elk]

it should?

[marble crater]

It's viable, though it feels a lot better with shriek instead of bubble, imo. Plus smite is already not very popular within the community, smite + bubble will be even worse

[pine elk]

Either one I guess.

Bubble/shield seems more useful overall, though, regardless of community perception

[marble crater]

Bubble is loved by the community, smite and bubble not so much. You turn off ranged enemies with bubble and stun the melee enemies, the result is a boring mission, although it's "good" support I guess

Shriek also has plenty of uses that bubble doesn't have, like rescuing teammates from dogs when they are behind walls and/or 30m away

[pine elk]

I'll use shriek then, I'll consult darklantern builds, maybe.

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah I'm fairly certain the smite+bubble combo specifically is a noob red flag for most of the community tbh

[marble crater]

EK also generates a lot of peril, so better to have shriek for that than bubble

[marble crater]

Consult the pinned builds, they are up to date

[wraith sphinx]

I recommend looking at the psyker build bonanza in pins first, they're much better

[pine elk]

I'll do both..

[acoustic jacinth]

SG + warp flurry and nexus EK is actually respectable lightning lord

[wraith sphinx]

researched, peer-reviewed, we can vouch for them. gameslantern is full of weird builds presented with zero elaboration

[pine elk]

i specifically don't use those

[acoustic jacinth]

Everything else, and you become very barrel-iable

[pine elk]

the 'better' builds on that place have actual descriptions

that describe how you're supposed to play

[left dagger]

is Unstable Power worth it on FGS Scriersker or that power increase at high peril isn't significant?

[pine elk]

I would use it if you're specifically going for a high peril build but otherwise I don't find it as having much utility.

I personally use it on greatsword scrier psyker

[left dagger]

oh nice, gonna use it on greatsword scrier then since constantly going to 50s-90s peril