Put me in charge of Psyker balance changes. I won't abuse my power much.
#psyker-class
ripe obsidian
summer prairie
SB already feels bad in non-havoc, too slow
ripe obsidian
SB already feels bad in non-havoc, too slow
This is true.
wraith sphinx
I'd rather see how reducing sb damage vs unarmoted/infested/maniac would play out
ripe obsidian
Why weaken soulblaze against hordes?
wraith sphinx
Because that's the most common complaint, no? That inferno users allegedly stop others from playing the game
summer prairie
all you have to do is remove uncanny interaction and then make one or two enemies count as cara vs sb
ripe obsidian
Is it? The complaint I hear the most is that Soulblaze sweeps through elites too easily.
ripe obsidian
all you have to do is remove uncanny interaction and then make one or two enemie...
I said that. >:(
summer prairie
anything beyond that requires a full rework of the weapon
wraith sphinx
First time I'm hearing about that. For what it does inferno's ttk against elites is fine. If that got nerfed inferno staff pick rate would almost assuredly plummet.
meager hearth
no DD? how so?
wraith sphinx
no DD? how so?
The way staff charged attacks work I'm not really comfortable going out of my way to pick off DD marked targets with it. Takes too much time and leaves me vulnerable. I'd much rather just attack whatever is closest to me instead - even without SB, psy vampire WS gets me more consistent stack amounts than dd equivalent.
ripe obsidian
First time I'm hearing about that. For what it does inferno's ttk against elites...
99% of suggested Inferno nerfs would result in the staff being useless
wraith sphinx
99% of suggested Inferno nerfs would result in the staff being useless
I'm inclined to agree.
ripe obsidian
The way staff charged attacks work I'm not really comfortable going out of my wa...
DD is good on Voidstrike and LMB EK
wraith sphinx
DD is good on Voidstrike and LMB EK
Yeah, but I still prefer WS even with those
meager hearth
The way staff charged attacks work I'm not really comfortable going out of my wa...
don't you just LMB marked targets with the EK when playing melee psyker tho?
wraith sphinx
don't you just LMB marked targets with the EK when playing melee psyker tho?
No I don't enjoy lmb staff spam gameoplay
meager hearth
I've used the charged attack like...twice in a whole mission
ripe obsidian
On meleeker, you just treat EK like a magic gun
wraith sphinx
Also if I'm meleekering I'm using the laspistol
ripe obsidian
Laspistol is strong, but it just doesn't feel good to use for me
wraith sphinx
I love it. It's the John Pistol of darktide
strong gulch
I can't hit heads. My aim is trash. Laspistol can't shine in my hands.
Unless it's bon bon even again. 
languid fable
First time I'm hearing about that. For what it does inferno's ttk against elites...
It shouldn’t take the same amount of time for me to kill 1 vs 100 elites, but that’s what inf cleave does. It’s a problem because it scales up the more density you throw at it, so how are you supposed to make the game “difficult” without gutting something about the weapon? The easy solution is remove inf cleave as a mechanic but people end up arguing in circles to come up with a reason it isn’t breaking game balance. So I guess the compromise is to heavily gut ttk or something similar because no one’s willing to just bite the bullet
wraith sphinx
Fair
ripe obsidian
It shouldn’t take the same amount of time for me to kill 1 vs 100 elites, but th...
It's not that infinite cleave is balanced. It's that inferno is built around infinite cleave.
So if you remove that, the weapon goes in the trash pile
strong gulch
ye
ripe obsidian
The weapon, and in turn like half the talents in the Psyker tree, would need an overhaul unless Fatshark just decides that Inferno should be trash
languid fable
So if you remove that, the weapon goes in the trash pile
It like opening Pandora’s box, it shouldn’t have been in the game in the first place but now that it’s established itself we have to run in circles figuring out how to balance something that literally defies any balance logic
strong gulch
Fat shark has had fire magic or inferno or flame thrower type staves in multiple games now.
If they make a 3rd game, I wouldn't be supprised if something like that is in it too.
Ask ainz?
idk too
ripe obsidian
I remember Flamestorm being considered the worst staff in VT2, but I wasn't as immersed in meta shit as I am in Darktide
I just played Saltzpyre and hit things
strong gulch
same
not saltz tho
just that I heard flamestorm wasn't the best and that I wasn't steeped in the meta
ripe obsidian
I feel like Coruscation was the stick of choice in VT2
ripe obsidian
Fire geysers
strong gulch
Fireball and the lance one got a lot of use by people iirc
ripe obsidian
VT2 also has the whole thing of quelling doing damage
strong gulch
ye
ripe obsidian
I think I used Fireball when doing my Sienna legend challenges
wraith sphinx
It shouldn’t take the same amount of time for me to kill 1 vs 100 elites, but th...
Inf cleave really isn't as much of a problem as some make it out to be. It tends to get viewed at in a vacuum that assumes consistent picture perfect usage and positioning. No amount of inferno or rumbler spam can guarantee success when players inevitably make mistakes in a mission. And they invariably do, a lot. People accross all difficulty levels and playtime brackets would have to consistently notice and report inferno and or rumbler actively and consistently turning off the game before Fatshark actually does something about it.
twilit pebble
degenerate dog scum solo q class
languid fable
Inf cleave really isn't as much of a problem as some make it out to be. It tends...
Plenty of people have noticed it and have been talking about it for the good part of the last 2 years, it’s just gotten worse with spawn changes increasing density and Havoc making the problem even more obvious with toxic meta mentalities. Saying it’s not an issue because there are other factors at play in a real match makes no sense, inf cleave is the tried and tested meta for a reason.
languid fable
I think I used Fireball when doing my Sienna legend challenges
VT2 has a flat target limit for all weapons so even flame staff on sienna has a limit of targets hit in the hitbox
summer prairie
purg only makes a huge difference in havoc when playing with a weaker team or with healing mod in play
other than that the runs feel the same without infinite cleave
at least with scum and kraks, but that's also infinite cleave I guess
wraith sphinx
Plenty of people have noticed it and have been talking about it for the good par...
Havoc's toxic meta issue wouldn't have been a thing if deranking wasn't a mechanic so that's a moot point. Also no wonder you said inferno staff discussions become circular if you gas it up like it's some wonder weapon that allows anyone anywhere to just win the game at any difficulty level.
languid fable
Havoc's toxic meta issue wouldn't have been a thing if deranking wasn't a mechan...
I think you’re misreading what I’ve discussed here. If you’re arguing that purg isn’t that strong or that you enjoy it that’s ok, I’d appreciate it if you didn’t misinterpret my arguments.
ripe obsidian
Deranking is a godawful mechanic dreamed up by someone obsessed with player engagement.
peak sundial
i think psyker should get a cyber mastiff also
for balance 
go into Perils of the Warp
dog pounces at the Perils of the Warp and knocks it off of you
sterile steppe
So, for voidstrike, whats a good dump stat, and perks and blessings?
I assume Warp Resist, since it seems like a warp spam staff right?
And Warp Nexus looks really good, and Surge looks good also
radiant frigate
Deranking is a godawful mechanic dreamed up by someone obsessed with player enga...
worst aspect of M+ to copy
it just makes the atmosphere around havoc so much less enjoyable
radiant frigate
So, for voidstrike, whats a good dump stat, and perks and blessings?
would probably go +cara +unyielding and either warp resist or blast radius dump
surge nexus also very good
ripe obsidian
So, for voidstrike, whats a good dump stat, and perks and blessings?
Dump blast radius. I use either Surge + Nexus or Surge + Flurry. For perks, +crit, +flak, +carapace. Pick 2 of the 3.
sterile steppe
Why blast radius? dont you need the explosions size?
plucky flax
Don't play voidstrike simple as
ripe obsidian
Why blast radius? dont you need the explosions size?
It's only the kersplosion at the end of the projectile's trajectory, which is useless to begin with
plucky flax
Voidstrike probably horde clear slower than fgs
ripe obsidian
Likely.
sterile steppe
Dump blast radius. I use either Surge + Nexus or Surge + Flurry. For perks, +cri...
crit....chance? or dmg?
ripe obsidian
I play Voidstrike in Auric because it's fun
sterile steppe
Voidstrike probably horde clear slower than fgs
fgs?
ripe obsidian
crit....chance? or dmg?
Chance. Never, ever use +crit damage perks
It's a bait perk.
sterile steppe
is that 5% even worth it?
sterile steppe
oh, force great sword
ripe obsidian
Because it's not +10% total damage on a crit, it's +10% bonus damage to the bonus damage the crit does. So like 2% damage increase
ripe obsidian
is that 5% even worth it?
Yes.
twilit pebble
is that true? oh my god
lone geyser
Deranking is a godawful mechanic dreamed up by someone obsessed with player enga...
translating
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I let my whole team down and got them killed (played psyker perfectly)
ripe obsidian
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sterile steppe
Ah.... for recon las gun, what MK is good?
radiant frigate
if your crits do +100% damage then +10% crit damage makes them be +110% damage, so 210% total and that is an overall increase of 5% to something that probably does not do anything relevant for you
sterile steppe
the XII is hella fast fire....but feels weak as crap
radiant frigate
that is the one
sterile steppe
The XIV, is slow as heck, but I guess the best dmg?
And I have no idea what the VIc does
ripe obsidian
translating
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I let my whole team down and got them killed (played psyker pe...
I've been H40 within like a week every season of Havoc. I don't even deal with deranking myself.
radiant frigate
put on dumdum infernus and it is an excellent burn vector
sterile steppe
wait.... so how do you build the recon lasgun?
ripe obsidian
if your crits do +100% damage then +10% crit damage makes them be +110% damage, ...
But crits rarely do that much bonus damage. D:
The crit damage system in this game is goofy
radiant frigate
strong gulch
translating
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I let my whole team down and got them killed (played psyker pe...
As a chronically ill person who can't commit to intense gameplay as much these days, it just disrespects my time. That doesn't get into the lack of build diversity in party finder because "must have meta" type of things.
It's ok to like the derank, but many don't.
Including myself.
radiant frigate
derank is de trash
that and the party finder requirement makes me not want to bother
summer prairie
My h40 went from Vigil Rotten rituals ventilation purge to Vigil rotten rituals ventilation purge, what are the odds
ripe obsidian
that and the party finder requirement makes me not want to bother
What about playing with friends in premade groups?
ripe obsidian
My h40 went from Vigil Rotten rituals ventilation purge to Vigil rotten rituals ...
Wowzers, what fun. How many bugged rituals does that map have? I can think of at least one.
radiant frigate
What about playing with friends in premade groups?
i would have to gather up my siblings
and that sounds like troublesome scheduling
ripe obsidian
I am usually gatherable, even if you do live several hours in the future
radiant frigate
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tulip kettle
strong gulch
is a dom
I will try havocs. I am subpar in them at this point, but I am keen to run around some time.
obtuse dome
The XIV, is slow as heck, but I guess the best dmg?
And I have no idea what the ...
The slow one is good aswell and way more ammo efficient.
Youve got the same ammount off ammo and more dmg just lower rof.
And still proc the burn quite fast.
plucky flax
the XII is hella fast fire....but feels weak as crap
Wrong
Its not weak but dd would help a lot
summer prairie
if you don't have healthbars and/or enemy burn stack information they can be a bit hard to use efficiently
plucky flax
You saying its only good cos cheat mods
summer prairie
just need a bit more psykhanium practice
e.g. even in h40 you can stop shooting at a reaper when it's like 66-75% health, especially with the fast one
deft stump
You saying its only good cos cheat mods
More, easier to judge. Or you will do as I do and always shoot too much. Since it's 2-3 bistol shots to kill without a minmaxxed build.
So I nearly always shoot everything 3 times.
quartz barn
i just keep shooting and joink all the ammo 
candid temple
imagine using healthbars for advantage, and not tracking the death of heretics.
their slowly dwindling healthbars sustain my desire to keep shooting.
boreal steppe
if im running smite, is is better to like charge it or just run it on cooldown
versed hedge
Is Fatshark's rented Amazon server having issues again? I feel like Darktide has been frequently experiencing network lag and latency issues over the past week.
radiant frigate
i just keep shooting and joink all the ammo <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926...
average autogun enjoyer
radiant frigate
if im running smite, is is better to like charge it or just run it on cooldown
smite is a tool for specific situations and not a one-size-fits-all solution
boreal steppe
smite is a tool for specific situations and not a one-size-fits-all solution
Well im refering to when im the siruation of giant ass horde needs to be stunned
Should I charge it
Or just fire instantly
boreal steppe
Thank you for answering the question unlike goofball 1 over here
radiant frigate
Well im refering to when im the siruation of giant ass horde needs to be stunned
giant horde is not actually the use case
buying time vs mass armor is
quaint lark
Thank you for answering the question unlike goofball 1 over here
I main smite
Here ill hop on ina lil and show ya if ya want
boreal steppe
Here ill hop on ina lil and show ya if ya want
Sure
radiant frigate
Thank you for answering the question unlike goofball 1 over here
unnecessarily hostile but ok
boreal steppe
unnecessarily hostile but ok
hostile???
I called you goofball 1
is goofball like, a slur for clowns now or something?
quaint lark
unnecessarily hostile but ok
They were joking around, besides people have been called worse, especially is Zealot chat
wraith sphinx
Still a stupid thing to say
wooden sand
You are a golfball
radiant frigate
They were joking around, besides people have been called worse, especially is Ze...
i like to think we are a bit more civilized here
quaint lark
Remember were petty in psyker chat
quaint lark
is goofball like, a slur for clowns now or something?
Hopping on
tulip kettle
i like to think we are a bit more civilized here
we were
then these smykers started hanging around and the place went to shit
quaint lark
hey!
quaint lark
blocked?
boreal steppe
Hopping on
I'll join in a second, finishijng vacuuming
quaint lark
I'll join in a second, finishijng vacuuming
roger roger
quaint lark
if you have access to showering/bathing and you dont
why
omg yes lol
boreal steppe
okay now, how do I join you
boreal steppe
Hopping on
yah so like, how do I join you
didnt think of that lol
quaint lark
yah so like, how do I join you
didnt think of that lol
oh my code in my name is my fatshark code
friend me through it and ill see ya in game
boreal steppe
oh my code in my name is my fatshark code
sent
thank you, didnt know about that
quaint lark
sent
thank you, didnt know about that
crashed oof but my build is earlier in here if ya wanna search from me and images
boreal steppe
hey, thank you for the help!
I also didnt know the train mission gave you a 30 second timer when the bar finished
woven sentinel
Is the obscurus any good?
woven sentinel
Ive never used it, what does it do?
verbal thistle
Single target damage
It can melt carapace
Iirc it still has the fastest crusher ttk
Out of every weapon
Go to the meat grinder
And do Heavy light light on a crusher
thorn cedar
with uncanny right
woven sentinel
Awesome gonna check it out when im home
sterile steppe
What is the Obscurus?
wraith sphinx
Force sword mark
verbal thistle
I dump stab for mk2 since it really affects sway with ads
sterile steppe
And what mK is good? I assume, Flak, and Maniac?
sterile steppe
ok, so keep mk2, and dump stab
blessings, is infernus good? or better ones out there?
infernus, dum dum?
verbal thistle
really depends on what you use it for
burn is really only worth for unyielding
so bulwark/reaper/bosses
dumdum should always be on it
unless you wanna do funny high crit with infernus
sterile steppe
Lol
verbal thistle
I use dumdum desperado
sterile steppe
ah....so closer things
sterile steppe
ya, thats what i meant
I figure close range, is pretty far
Feels like, I should go flak unyeilding
verbal thistle
sterile steppe
and with Dum dum, infernus
sterile steppe
XD was just looking at that
verbal thistle
you can use this for psyker since its pretty siumilar in ranged damage + finesse
sterile steppe
ye, just not sure what the staffs are.
verbal thistle
and there is the document in this class pins to look through
the staffs are realy to build
sterile steppe
however, I also want to play psyker. Inferno I already know
from youtube things
However, they never really go over details. per say
The bonanza document, is very empty
good on the beginning, then peters off near the middle. alot of empty sections
boreal steppe
Can you come clean for me. <a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
no, learn to yourself
its fun
zealous wing
The bonanza document, is very empty
its for builds more than explaining everything psyker, to be fair
we have so many people just wanting builds, six threw a huge batch of them together
if you want specifics on how each staff works, we can give summaries, or very indepth explainations, depending on what you like
cunning delta
what's the least wasteful way of getting a better staff
verbal thistle
what's the least wasteful way of getting a better staff
roll grey weapons at brunts
when you are level 30
cunning delta
dont bother before 30?
white sky
Waste of money
verbal thistle
its weighted
cunning delta
just a new player trying to be less useless
marble crater
To be less useless while leveling: use a gun and assail
ripe obsidian
just a new player trying to be less useless
I has a leveling build in da pinned guide
heavy dagger
what can i replace gunner DR with, this is a inferno shriek build
zealous wing
what can i replace gunner DR with, this is a inferno shriek build
5% hp, revive speed, corruption resistance, depends on what you'd like using tbh
zealous wing
it is
wraith sphinx
I fw revive speed on psyker yeah
marble crater
Revive speed is for the team, be an egoist and build for yourself 
wraith sphinx
I almost always have two of rez speed perks on my builds
I do run only one rez speed perk on my gun psyker builds now however
My staff builds have 3 tough curios and my gun builds 2 tough + 1 stam
zealous wing
Revive speed is for the team, be an egoist and build for yourself <:staregryn:10...
rev speed lets me get the team up faster, makes me look better with a clutch if i actually get them up
marble crater
Slower revive is more dramatic and cinematic
wraith sphinx
go elysians!!
@marble crater hey can you guess what each of these builds are based on the icon 🤪
marble crater
Smite, smite, smite, smite, smite
wraith sphinx
True 🏆
marble crater
Inferno, Bubble something, gunker, meleeker, EK, no idea, voidstrike, voidblast
wraith sphinx
Inferno, Bubble something, gunker, meleeker, EK, no idea, voidstrike, voidblast
Inferno, bubble shield w trauma, assail gunker, greatsword meleeker, smite w/voidstrike, EP assail dsword meleeker, and a gunker and trauma staff build variations I'm unhappy with and will probably delete
marble crater
strong gulch
Sry it was me
wraith sphinx
Coming out as a smite user is tough but it had to be done...
I think I posted that build here before
Yeah I did
No thoughts just kill crusher with big magic balls
zealous wing
is defences on FGS just block efficiency/similar stuff?
wondering if its worth maxing it out if i have a mega low warp res
ah so its mobility basically
hmm
tulip kettle
affects dodge distance
zealous wing
doesnt SEEM too severe, ill give it a shot
going from 33% to 18% would be sweet
but if i need to upgrade it a little more, long as its less than 33 it'd not be an utter loss
tasty
wraith sphinx
mmm headache sword
ripe obsidian
The headache makes you remember you're alive
zealous wing
here, or more commonly LFG/random queueing
you could also try other class chats but i cant speak for any of them except to warn against going to zealot chat at all costs if you like your eyeballs
echo badger
you could also try other class chats but i cant speak for any of them except to ...
ty!
zealous wing
we've got a general group here that do aurics regularly, dom, myself, six, potato (aka beans), ninja, etc, when we do we usually pick a strike party VC and tag in/out with folks who ask to be a part of the fun
clear rivet
is psy the flavor of the month now
zealous wing
wdym
clear rivet
like in terms of power level compared to other classes
clear rivet
oh? for h40?
zealous wing
ye
zealot also strong, but definitely struggling a little bit with certain builds now
but still good
vet and oggy i cant really talk on
arby is same as always, really hard to die on, but not actually great at much else
clear rivet
yea last time i played was when arby released but they have nerfed ogryn
anyway thanks bud
storm hollow
what was that onne dueling sword/infernus staff soulblaze build
wraith sphinx
I wish this got back in commodore's vestures again sooo bad 😭
it's been years since it's been last in
storm hollow
or just any build really cause damn i forgot what any of my builds were before they changed the trees
zealous wing
what was that onne dueling sword/infernus staff soulblaze build
i'd say check the build guide in pins but honestly if six put a build in there combining inferno and dueling sword i'd yell at him
storm hollow
yeah i dont think his post from ocotber 5th is gonna help especially with a whole ass rebalance of all the trees
zealous wing
so you think the build guide thats regularly upkept is not good enough?
storm hollow
oh they get regularly updated?
zealous wing
if it was invalid i would not suggest it
strong gulch
The rework gave us some new talents which are in the builds.
Also note that even if a post in discord says it's 2 years old, the info could still be relevant or updated.
wraith sphinx
Yeah. Some peeps are dilligent and update their shit!
storm hollow
no offense i just did not expect that lol
weird that for some reason the melee/gun psyker is more dedicated to melee, sad that gunker's kind of left in the dust ig
wraith sphinx
None taken I'm just stating a fact
strong gulch
The repeated updating is one of the reasons why I asked Six for help. Aggregating all of the info and testing to make sure things worked after every hotfix and patch became too much.
Then he went bananas with it.
wraith sphinx
Also unrelated but I'm thinking of taking off these two EP subnodes and getting something else, thoughts?
It's on my EP assail build
storm hollow
god i think i had a soulblaze build, a gunker build and for some reason another variant on the soulblaze build but with scrier's?
strong gulch
@verbal thistle Thoughts on removing some EP nodes for assail on a build? I don't play it much so I don't have much feedback.
It might also depend on how you're using it.
zealous wing
weird that for some reason the melee/gun psyker is more dedicated to melee, sad ...
gunker is still going to be mostly melee
the game itself is mostly melee
strong gulch
gunker is stronger than ever
wraith sphinx
It might also depend on how you're using it.
The basic idea was to just have as much of Assail available for hordeclearing spam when needed, but after playing w it for a while I'm unsure if I need these subnodes. I was thinking of getting warp speed and or OWTW instead
strong gulch
SG keeps getting buffed.
DR node that favors non-staff.
DD is easier to keep stacks up.
ripe obsidian
like in terms of power level compared to other classes
Psyker has been the strongest class for a long time.
It was somewhat more debated prior to the tree change.
wraith sphinx
I also don't like how weirdly slim my current build is. I've got basically zero 'free' talent points to spend on stuff that strikes my fancy, you know?
radiant frigate
Psyker has been the strongest class for a long time.
but also the squishest
so hard to get into
zealous wing
well, no i would argue scum is technically the squishiest now, or vet
storm hollow
yeah thats kinda why i prefer the other classes more but i might be hypocritical ive been able to beat havoc 20 or 25 or something on a melee hive scum
and hive scum's like slightly less squishy
verbal thistle
<@665740726474375168> Thoughts on removing some EP nodes for assail on a build? ...
I think 3 gurenteed free assail is too strong
right node with 3 stacks is just too much
storm hollow
ive been trying to get into him, repracticing and refining the explosion build because i think that build's still meta?
zealous wing
psyker toughness regen is insanely strong, and with the highest damage reduction talent in the game, ye its not the squishiest now
wraith sphinx
right node with 3 stacks is just too much
This is what I was thinking too. It's strong to the point even I feel it's... boring to use
storm hollow
if it werent for the fact most of the vet's guns are legit infuriating to aim in a real live fire environment id play him more
radiant frigate
is not the squishiest now
someone off-screen cast iron arm on us
ripe obsidian
Scum would be squishiest if it didn't have multiple damage immunity nodes.
storm hollow
outside of the kaboom build
radiant frigate
+gorillion toughness
ripe obsidian
someone off-screen cast iron arm on us
You are a nerd and I appreciate it greatly.
strong gulch
The basic idea was to just have as much of Assail available for hordeclearing sp...
Without much testing, it seems like EP assail is going to peter out without the supporting nodes. If it's just for hordes you might be able to the the higher % on the left side.
I've toyed around with EP with only the guarantee on elite for BB, but BB is not as fast nor does it have as high as volume as assail.
Worth experimenting.
radiant frigate
You are a nerd and I appreciate it greatly.
thank you, thank you, i'll be here all week
ripe obsidian
psyker toughness regen is insanely strong, and with the highest damage reduction...
Even though it's kinda a waste to pick the DR talents unless you're a meleeker. Staffker just stands behind the team. That way you get loads of extra toughness and health!
strong gulch
But would it be better to choose something else if you're doing just 1 point into a keystone?
wraith sphinx
Without much testing, it seems like EP assail is going to peter out without the ...
I'll keep that in mind for a future buildcrafting sesh, I'll take the subnodes off and keep assail, see how it pans out
ripe obsidian
thank you, thank you, i'll be here all week
No, longer than all week. You are not allowed to leave. >:(
radiant frigate
No, longer than all week. You are not allowed to leave. >:(
fine, fine! all year!
wraith sphinx
But would it be better to choose something else if you're doing just 1 point int...
Wouldn't EP be the best candidate for a no subnode keystone?
radiant frigate
Wouldn't EP be the best candidate for a no subnode keystone?
my instincts say DD
wraith sphinx
Disrupt Destiny and warp siphon both chug hard with gaining stacks without any subnodes
radiant frigate
source? scrying orb obv
ripe obsidian
fine, fine! all year!
The rest of the year and the rest of the week are approximately the same length!
marble crater
fine, fine! all year!
radiant frigate
Kark it. keystoneless psyker
ballin'
i respect it
wraith sphinx
no keystone, dueling sword, assail, zarona revolver. Pretty much the loadout I remember using the most when I was still levelling my psyker lol
strong gulch
The base chance for EP to get a stack is 10%. It used to be 7.5%. Idk what the impactful uptime would be. I assume that would change a lot depending on how assail heavy you'd be.
I do remember people being successful with 1 node into DD, BUT that was before the improved targeting and with the stacks lasted longer.
ripe obsidian
https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-weird-stare-big-eyes-gif-26186132
I am not so easily bamboozled
wraith sphinx
yeah I guess I'll keep the base EP keystone actually. I do lean heavily into assail on this loadout after all
radiant frigate
but base EP only has one charge
wraith sphinx
the ranged damage tax node also affects assail, right?
strong gulch
So much gut still says DD may be a better single point investment.
There are too many "it depends", for me to just toss ideas around without testing anything.
strong gulch
the ranged damage tax node also affects assail, right?
It should. The previous one did.
I don't wanna assume.
tulip kettle
BEANS spotted 👀
strong gulch
lol
night marten
Is there a site that shows kill breakpoints based on a build and active buffs?
strong gulch
There is a BP calculataor, but idk if it's updated.
BPs are less relevant on Psyker.
boreal steppe
So do vote for wall shield or dome shield?
night marten
There is a BP calculataor, but idk if it's updated.
BPs are less relevant on Ps...
thinking about fgs killing ogryns, and how relevant the +20% dmg node is depending on whether I have SG active, different number of stacks for DD, etc. with the node, SG, and 15 DD stacks, crushers are 2-shot. Not sure if it stays that way without the node, or where the line is with fewer stacks
modest perch
nothing wrong with stacking dmg buffs against the tankiest enemies
night marten
nothing wrong with stacking dmg buffs against the tankiest enemies
of course, though it's a point I could spend for more value in a few other places if it doesn't have a big impact on BPs
ripe obsidian
There is a BP calculataor, but idk if it's updated.
BPs are less relevant on Ps...
is not updated
mortal kettle
Hey gang, anyone got a good melee Smite build to recommend ? I'm levelling Psyker atm
modest perch
honestly i wouldnt worry too much about bps due to psyker having so many rapidly fluctuating dmg buffs
ripe obsidian
Bathe in them. Bask in them!
modest perch
mortal kettle
Look ye upon the builds
Link no work on my mobile 
strong gulch
thinking about fgs killing ogryns, and how relevant the +20% dmg node is dependi...
IDK the exact buffs needed for oggy, but monsters still will benefit from the 20% damage node. It might help make up for when buffs are down or not high.
If you mod, you can test for what you are looking for.
night marten
IDK the exact buffs needed for oggy, but monsters still will benefit from the 20...
I have a few mods setup, though not the training room variant. can that also simulate buffs?
strong gulch
@tulip kettle I did a solo thing and it kicked me. Gonna do a quick afk.
strong gulch
I have a few mods setup, though not the training room variant. can that also sim...
Ye. There's datatide that needs testing utilities that can set buff.
ripe obsidian
Link no work on my mobile <:megachingryn:1091154281773674576>
Odd. It's just a google docs link
strong gulch
Works on my mobile. 
cunning delta
at what point does staff become competitive with gunning
ripe obsidian
I am not sure the exact level. I usually say 30, honestly.
Staves kinda suck until you can max out their stats
marble crater
And then some staves are ironically better without maxed out stats, it's an entire thing
plucky flax
ripe obsidian
In idle scribbling of worldbuilding, I wrote a line I quite like:
"Apostates were mourned as the dead, for they no longer had a place among the living."
ripe obsidian
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
don't make that face at me
spice oar
Hey guys, is Charged Strike buffed by EP?
Cause if so then I have a very funny build I wish to try
ripe obsidian
Heavy melee attacks apply a damaging electrocution effect to enemies (up to 64 base damage per tick when reaching max charge level); the damage window lasts for 2s, the electrocuted state lasts until 2s after the last damage tick. Damage can be increased by the same sources that buff Smite's electrocution damage (except for Empowered Psionics). Note that the time before the first damage tick can happen depends on enemy hit mass (just like with Smite itself), so the more hit mass an enemy has the longer it will take before this talent's electrocution effect deals damage. As a result, against monstrosities (20 hit mass), only 1 damage tick can be executed before the damage window of 2s ends.
If Enfeeble is selected, the electrocution effect receives a lower hit_mass_cost, which effectively doubles the total tick amount against most enemies, and is also able to reach max charge level sooner, which ramps up its damage faster. With Enfeeble, this talent's electrocution effect benefits from the 10% increased damage taken debuff, and attacking players also benefit from it while the electrocution effect is actively damaging and applying the debuff (just like with Smite itself).
Seems like no, per Kuli
graceful blade
New player here, I just unlocked the inferno staff, am I supposed to do like 20-50% charge to clear and LMB to stagger? also, with BB, is it better to RMB>LMB during the charge or wait until the end of the charge to LMB? 🤔
spice oar
Heavy melee attacks apply a damaging electrocution effect to enemies (up to 64 b...
Yeah I googled it they patched it
Laaaaame
zealous wing
New player here, I just unlocked the inferno staff, am I supposed to do like 20-...
for inferno, yes, about 45% to maintain blaze away stacks, but slightly less is functional, and yes lmb is stagger
BB, when charging, i just LMB as soon as i see the target im waiting for, in case it dodges behind cover again by the time im ready to hit it with a full charge
ripe obsidian
New player here, I just unlocked the inferno staff, am I supposed to do like 20-...
with blaze away, 45% or lower cha... Hexis beat me to it.
graceful blade
thanks!
feral verge
thanks! <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
yw
fiery stratus
wraith sphinx
Heresy.
zealous wing
was wondering where your shitposts were
welcome back
im gonna commit my own heresy
i cant be left alone
not even for a moment
this is what happens
also running rending trauma 
was gonna try running CW with this abomination but, after some practice with CW its still too unreliable, because its likely your teammates will kill the elite right next to you when you trigger overload
plucky flax
Bruh I can't sleep 
zealous wing
this is why
plucky flax
Guess I should play until tired
Anyone wanna play havoc east coast? I imagine eu server is dead now at 0038
zealous wing
eu isnt totally dead yet
plucky flax
Pog
zealous wing
i am commiting such crimes
i feel like i need a shower already
but i must know the enemy
didnt use it at all lmfao
left dagger
when should i spam assail as opposed to throw single charged assails?
zealous wing
horde vs single target you want to hit
sniper? charged. trapper in the distance? charged.
ragers coming at you? spam
left dagger
oo nice i see, didnt realize single assail works as ranged sniping tool too
meager hearth
Bubble knight has been weird for me:
- Wade into ragers and maulers, kill all of them and reach a medicae with no health lost
- A groaner scratches me and takes away 40 health
zealous wing
thats melee in general tbh
meager hearth
It's most notable on melee soyker since I don't have any reversals like vet shout, ogryn taunt, scum despacito, zealot/arbie everything...
Once I lose the first health bar it just kinda death spirals
zealous wing
dont stop hitting things
if you're fighting ragers, your guard is very likely up, because ragers be kinda scary, but poxwalkers? they're just weak trash, surely they cant actually hit hard, right?
right?
meager hearth
if you're fighting ragers, your guard is very likely up, because ragers be kinda...
It's less that and the one or two groaners leisurely straggling behind the group and suddenly turning into Altair when they do a backstab
zealous wing
ive had 3 groaners in auric instakill me from full health
not down, kill
i suspect it may have been a bug, but, i dont know anymore
not even poxwalkers, so there wasnt any corruption involved
ripe obsidian
Anyone wanna play havoc east coast? I imagine eu server is dead now at 0038
I want to. But I cannot. D:
meager hearth
ive had 3 groaners in auric instakill me from full health
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10f40uz/all_enemy_attacks_damage_values_healthtoughness/
According to this a groaner/poxwalker's melee only does slightly less damage than a mauler/crusher's light attacks and less damage than a combo hit from a rager or boss
so three of them lightly nuzzling your back is likely to instadown you. Not sure how they chewed through the 1000 down health though
cedar delta
dont you take more dmg from backshots
meager hearth
dont you take more dmg from backshots
yeah its a 1.5x or 2x multiplier or something
ripe obsidian
yeah its a 1.5x or 2x multiplier or something
This is not correct.
plucky flax
I want to. But I cannot. D:
Dang
Won with bubble knight think I can try to go to bed now.
ripe obsidian
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10f40uz/all_enemy_attacks_damage_valu...
A poxwalker melee does 84 damage. A crusher sideswing does 240.
ripe obsidian
Won with bubble knight think I can try to go to bed now.
Good job bubblin' and knightin'
plucky flax
Bubble knight has been weird for me:
- Wade into ragers and maulers, kill all of...
Bubble knight moment I died to flame on the ground often.
ripe obsidian
Maybe you should've chopped more
plucky flax
The ogryn was h32 it waas his first 40 and he was so happy after 
jovial juniper
There was an evis chastise zeal in my game he did more melee damage than me. D:
Eviscergoat being goat at it again
ripe obsidian
The ogryn was h32 it waas his first 40 and he was so happy after <:PeepoHappy:40...
Good.
Make people happy
Or else
plucky flax
Eviscergoat being goat at it again
I dunno how cos when I try to play evis I play like ass and do no damage 
zealous wing
i feel impressed with the fact he got a kill with a stun grenade
that is the first blitz, right? stuns?
or was that center? 
plucky flax
Yeah 1 is stun
zealous wing
its definitely not fire grenade
plucky flax
2 is fire
jovial juniper
I dunno how cos when I try to play evis I play like ass and do no damage <a:nooo...
It's a bloodthirsty Evis15
Just spam revved attacks left and right
plucky flax
Hmm horde clear is just light spam?
jovial juniper
Or revved light
boreal steppe
Do yall prefer wall or dome shield?
zealous wing
bubble
boreal steppe
I like my wall shield morep
thorn cedar
wall gang wall gang
plucky flax
5'11 vs 6'0 moment
cedar delta
i prefer bubble but i think wall is better
plucky flax
cedar delta
ripe obsidian
I dunno how cos when I try to play evis I play like ass and do no damage <a:nooo...
You need to lose yourself in the vroom
ripe obsidian
Do yall prefer wall or dome shield?
Bubble is more versatile. Wall is harder to use well.
Wall can be quite effective if used well.
But it is also quite buggy
tardy pumice
flamer shriek build
battle meditation vs resonance vs empathic evasion
which one to take?
nocturne wasp
Do yall prefer wall or dome shield?
I use neither and just get shot. Someone will pick me up
tulip kettle
flamer shriek build
battle meditation vs resonance vs empathic evasion
which o...
EE
battle med completely unecessary
KR is, fine
and EE is essential
ripe obsidian
flamer shriek build
battle meditation vs resonance vs empathic evasion
which o...
Always EE. Immortality.
Is why EE is blue in the Inferno + Shriek tenplate. Or just a mandatory pick. One of the two
Battle Meditation is not a node I particularly like. It's gambling.
Kinetic Resonance is, as Dom said, fine. Is not a bad pick. Just generally not worth taking a point from elsewhere
mighty cipher
Battle Meditation is not a node I particularly like. It's gambling.
I like BM on shriek builds since it lets you spew forever with the only downside being that you can go negative on peril gen.
mighty cipher
Kinetic Resonance is, as Dom said, fine. Is not a bad pick. Just generally not w...
Resonance is good for autonomy, but I have occasionally had times where it has been a dead point since everyone else was doing a good job at dealing with the stuff I woulda used it on.
tardy pumice
I like BM on shriek builds since it lets you spew forever with the only downside...
yea i like bm too, feels much smoother to play
and he-who-shall-not-be-named had a meta overview of psyker and said if you dont pick bm then the amount you can cast is HALVED and it makes sense to me since u have to press R all the time
quaint lark
Harry Potter lookin ahh
tardy pumice
but... everyone on discord tells me bm is bad
mighty cipher
yea i like bm too, feels much smoother to play
and he-who-shall-not-be-named ha...
Who is the dark-lord esc figure? I have one guess and that’s the femboy.
tardy pumice
yep
quaint lark
What about femboys?~
tardy pumice
and the argument ive seen against EE is basically just l2p and dont stand in line of fire
mighty cipher
and the argument ive seen against EE is basically just l2p and dont stand in lin...
And to his credit, he’s right about that at a certain skill level. I tried it though, I’m NOT that good, and thus I did better damage with a more defensively spec’d build.
tardy pumice
yea agree
and also to some extent maybe depends on your team too, like if they are taking out stuff or you are forced to
like in pubs
like if i have EE then its safer for me to slide and take out a line of gunners/ranged
mighty cipher
Yes. His default perspective of what’s meta is based around you having a highly skilled premade team, which can skew a few of his points when trying to apply them to a less skilled/more public group player.
tardy pumice
yea i think so too
i think he should also make builds for the "solo/pub" perspective
so what would u take? bm vs ee vs resonance
tardy pumice
leaning toward that too kinda
mighty cipher
Don’t die, do damage.
cold ivy
if you're running shriek inferno, as long as psykinetic's aura is constantly ticking you can pump basically infinitely without BM because shriek cools down fast enough to dump the peril
mighty cipher
Extra damage doesn’t mean shit if you’re on the ground.
tardy pumice
yea
tulip kettle
Again, EE is just pure value and allows you protection from shooters you don't otherwise have
ripe obsidian
I like BM on shriek builds since it lets you spew forever with the only downside...
I would absolutely never pick it on a Shriek build.
I can see value for it on a bubble build
cold ivy
when i run shriek inferno i don't take BM, but when i run bubble inferno i do take BM for gambling
ripe obsidian
I don't like BM, but I think it has a place. That place is 100% not with Shriek
cold ivy
because with enough density and luck i can pump infinitely even on bubble build and i don't like quelling... you can still quell, i just don't like having to press extra buttons
ripe obsidian
Shriek already has like a 7 second cooldown. I have to quell maybe once before using it again
tulip kettle
And BM is almost useless on inferno due to 1 ticking, but adds a bit of QOL on bubble builds. It's 100% wasted with shriek
But, why listen to me or 6 🤷♂️
mighty cipher
But, why listen to me or 6 🤷♂️
I do.
I am simply disregarding the information.
-# Tis a joke
ripe obsidian
Build how you want. It doesn't really matter much to me. I just think BM is counterproductive with Shriek.
acoustic jacinth
I honestly stopped running any form or peril reduction a long time ago. It's certainly nice that now we have stuff like ER, but tap quelling into minimum cast does it for me
ripe obsidian
Is fine with Bubble, I just dislike gambling. Much prefer manual control of my peril
ripe obsidian
I honestly stopped running any form or peril reduction a long time ago. It's cer...
I am not sure how I feel about tap quelling. As in, I use the mechanic extensively, but I am not sure if I like that it exists. It kind of bypasses one of the balance checks for Psyker.
leaden wind
Is there any reason to take the node that lets you survive brain explody? I can’t really see it fitting in any build
ripe obsidian
Because it's funny
leaden wind
Meme build based entirely on being a psyburster
zealous wing
ye it would work for suipsyker
but its sadly not as effective as would be ideal
in an offensive capacity at least
if it dealt enough damage to oneshot ragers, then probably would be great, overload yourself in a rager cluster to clear it instantly would be delightful
leaden wind
Fr it seems like it could have potential if it was reworked, but still then very niche
ripe obsidian
It would need a major rework to be useful. There are not many situation where blowing your own head up is more useful than just continuing to do damage. Maybe if it did enough damage to kill a rager, as Hexis said, or if it had the level of knockback of like an Ogryn bomb. Something to make the risk actually worth it
strong gulch
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gg @zealous wing taking a break
zealous wing
It would need a major rework to be useful. There are not many situation where bl...
look at how effective smite is at covering for a res
we laughed our asses off at this one
patent jacinth
Wow
ripe obsidian
Wowzers.
patent jacinth
10/10 engaging gameplay
ripe obsidian
Didn't even get the res
ripe obsidian
RIP
zealous wing
i love watching the crusher BE STUNNED, then decide to unstun, then restun after the overhead completed
beans said to combine it with wall and call it the old reliable build
60% of the time, it works every time
also yeah its been an hour or so of just absolute launching of intense sarcastic comments from me trying to mimic both permasmykers and actual use-cases
so yeah i can definitively say, now from my own experience, smite is boring, weak, and slow
sterile steppe
I assume...for the Electri staff, the dump stat is warp resist?
zealous wing
yes, except in one specific build type, but yes
sterile steppe
which build?
zealous wing
surge surge uses charge rate dump
sterile steppe
Oh... and voidstrike dump stat is Blast Radius?
zealous wing
yes
sterile steppe
surge surge uses charge rate dump
AH! so keep one at charge, and one at warp resist
zealous wing
specifically void STRIKE not blast
sterile steppe
is there a similar one for void STRIKE?
like, are all build for void STRIKE blast radius?
zealous wing
AH! so keep one at charge, and one at warp resist
if you have both, yes, keep both
zealous wing
like, are all build for void STRIKE blast radius?
pretty sure all of them are, if theres not one specified in the guide for something different
six uses voidstrike a lot in auric, and he's the one who made the guide, so im sure he'd put as much as he knew about it in there
sterile steppe
and for Void STRIKE
what perks, and blessing are good on them again?
I know it was nexus
and surge?
ripe obsidian
I like Nexus + Surge
strong gulch
and for Void STRIKE
There's recs in the build bonanza in the pins. Perks are more or less flak + preference but also depends on blessings. Surge helps crusher kills times, and without it you might want cara on a flurry setup; or crit chance on a surge maxxing setup.
For blessings that kinda depends on you. If you want to double ball max then nexus + surge. If that feels too slow then flurry + surge. If you don't want to mange double balls so the second ball isn't wasted or you don't want to swing your shots to split the double balls, nexus + flurry.
sterile steppe
There's recs in the build bonanza in the pins. Perks are more or less flak + pre...
Woo..... man, that is a good info dump! i need to read all that! and think more, NICE!
strong gulch
If Six says anything different, I'd yield to that tho. VS is not my jam.
plucky flax
Neither mine
zealous wing
isnt the character slot thing 9 now?
zealous wing
so the loadout mod is fucked
by default anyway
its locked at 8 for me i just noticed
strong gulch
Idk if it's 9 if you have the 2 dlc classes or not.
but I think the mod has been fecked for awhile
I haven't been able to get it work post arby
zealous wing
i just know i'd always keep a slot open for a throwaway character and i cant now, and im pretty sure arby bumped base to 8 and hive scum had a +1
ripe obsidian
There's recs in the build bonanza in the pins. Perks are more or less flak + pre...
I think any combo of nexus, surge, and flurry is viable. Tbh surge might be worse than nexus + flurry, as the double-ball is often wasted due to enemies staggering weirdly or just hitting chaff instead of elites.
But I never use VS outside of Auric, so it's less of a concern
zealous wing
im going to test something and hope my game doesnt nuke itself
zealous wing
but I think the mod has been fecked for awhile
I haven't been able to get it wo...
how specifically do you mean not work
also my test worked, i have 9 slots now
strong gulch
how specifically do you mean not work
Like I could alter the lines to have more character slots. The game would load and show those character slots as if they were available, but my game would crash when I got to the end of creating a new character. Like I would be able to make and name them, but it'd crash when I hit skip or do the prolog.
I had 8 characters already made at that point.
zealous wing
thats probably because it worked with the hidden slots that were unlocked for all at arby
strong gulch
This happened with either of the mods that made more character slots.
sterile steppe
For the dueling sword...I know psyker is similar to vet
however.... what shoudl the duelign sword be built around?
zealous wing
hordeclear
sterile steppe
I assume mobility dump as well?
zealous wing
cleave damage
or, i did a 70/70 split of mob/cleave
pair it with something like surge surge /assail or a trauma build of some sort
do NOT put it with inferno
strong gulch
DS as a side arm to aoe staves or with assail in a right side build.
zealous wing
also be aware the dueling sword parry builds peril, and it can, and will, explode you
sterile steppe
WHAT?!!
wait....so I hvae a question about the parry
whats the active window? and if you spam it...does it work?
strong gulch
You can do DS inferno; but it becomes more dangerous to do uncanny + SB interactions on DS vs a force sword.
zealous wing
you cant spam it the same way you can spam devils claw, but you can just spam the button and hope it works, idk how to put the window into words
zealous wing
You can do DS inferno; but it becomes more dangerous to do uncanny + SB interact...
dangerous, and unreliable
sterile steppe
you cant spam it the same way you can spam devils claw, but you can just spam th...
Good enough.... my timing and reflexes are sht
thats why I wonder if spam is ok
strong gulch
whats the active window? and if you spam it...does it work?
There is more or less frames between the parries that you can get hit. DS parry is not spammable the way devils claw is.
sterile steppe
There is more or less frames between the parries that you can get hit. DS parry ...
ah.... so devil claw, you can spam without an issue?
zealous wing
And Flak + Cara for perks?
i do maniac carapace
strong gulch
dangerous, and unreliable
It's really fine tho.
Especially in non-havocs.
zealous wing
sterile steppe
What blessings for the duel sword? I am leving now.
ah....i can see uncanny!
why maniac?
zealous wing
mutants
thorn cedar
set dodge count back to full
strong gulch
I personally do unyielding + cara on my DS for DoT maxxing if I want to go that route.
sterile steppe
wait a sec
so.... if you hit a head, your dodge count just simpley goes to full?
that is powerful!
sterile steppe
oh nice!
zealous wing
highly accurate, and easy to not need to memorise
light spam for some horde clear (little as it is), heavies for single target, problem goes away pretty quick
sterile steppe
Thanks man! for putting up with my questions!
zealous wing
any time
ripe obsidian
that is powerful!
It is quite good, but it runs into the same issue as stuff like Deflector. You're trading damage for defense. That is not a bad trade to make, to be clear, but it means lower damage output in the end.
zealous wing
in the case of trauma tho its a defensive side arm more than offensive, imo
ripe obsidian
As I said, it's not a bad pick
It comes down to preference and comfort
Generally on staffker, using melee is a decrease in your power
So having something like Agile or Deflector to reposition is very reasonable. On something like Inferno, you also have the option (as you know, oh poster of videos) to use Uncanny + Superiority to deal with angery crusher mobs
sterile steppe
so whats the offenseive option?
strong gulch
uncanny + a crit blessing is the general go to
strong gulch
cara + unyielding
uncanny + riposte / shred
strong gulch
Shred is better when you don't have aggro or there's a lot of CC or a taungryn on the field; it takes time to stack up and will drop off if you miss or hit a dead body.
Riposte's crit chance doesn't need to stacks up and procs with EE; but uptime suffers if no aggro.
Psyker specifically wants crits.
sterile steppe
EE?
strong gulch
Precog is fine but I hate it. That aside psyker has notable crit synergy.
sterile steppe
For VoidBLAST, what do you guys suggest?
I am finally finished with the void strike, and while....I finally learned its not bad
Kinda fun.....I dont like the staff as well as I would like!
Warp Resist for dump stat is good right?
sterile steppe
@ornate hamletThey really are kinda tanky!
ornate hamlet
Based
ripe obsidian
Baste.
strong gulch
For VoidBLAST, what do you guys suggest?
zealous wing
For VoidBLAST, what do you guys suggest?
if blazing trauma, brain burst with kinetic flayer, if rending trauma, honestly, assail
cosmic cobalt
how to i build balls fr
sterile steppe
https://tenor.com/view/check-pin-discord-check-pin-gif-1835998338632614419
However, I want to make sure, its still good....or some opinions
cuz, I know diff people have diff strokes
strong gulch
Is correct
sterile steppe
for Devil claw sword
how good is that? and what do you build with that one?
I heard someone say....the parry on there is kinda wowzers
but is it good for anythign else?
sterile steppe
well, also for other staffs
I meant in general or stuff, for psyker, to see if eventually I will like it
I just tried dueling sword, Jesus its strong
strong gulch
Devil's claw can be ok with EK or maybe VS. Those are more single target aligned.
Can work on right side melee builds too.
Not my jam tho.
ornate hamlet
Devil's claw is like precog
You offload a ton of your damage to the parry
Sometimes you'll sit in front of a rager crowd just whiffing parries because they decided to target the dude behind you
radiant frigate
does dclaw still have garbage for armor damage
(there can be no hope for this weapon while others persist)
radiant frigate
like what secret move is it that can only be unleashed when someone bonks you that now has a fundamentally different damage profile
what sorcery is this
ornate hamlet
shatfark
dull scroll
the parry is extremely powerful, especially on psykers with KD
but reactive damage is just not it at higher lvl of play for this game 😔
ornate hamlet
I recall reading that it counts as a heavy attack, which at least is interesting
ripe obsidian
the parry is extremely powerful, especially on psykers with KD
but reactive dama...
But only 93% as powerful as you.
summer prairie
17min consignment yard rotten toll, pretty good
ripe obsidian
Did ye just speedrun?
summer prairie
yes
ripe obsidian
I would imagine, then, that half that time was the mid and end events.
summer prairie
probably
ripe obsidian
When speedrunning H40, do you also ignore bosses?
summer prairie
We got the twins immediately before the first drop even so we killed them there. Pretty bad boss damage though
but other than that we only killed them at the event
plucky flax
I have hab blight ritual. Pretty sure it was the exact same yesterday morning.
summer prairie
I've hab rotten toll now
plucky flax
I'd do that.
summer prairie
now?
plucky flax
With bubble knight and do minimal damage.
Yeah why not now I am not running today my legs are done after yesterday. What 25 days no running do to a mf
radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
No kersplode the meow
radiant frigate
the parry is extremely powerful, especially on psykers with KD
but reactive dama...
imagine trying to kill a crusher pack with dclaw but they decide to target someone other than you
we out here anklebiting
radiant frigate
No kersplode the meow
therefore 25 days without running and then running is a bad idea
this kersplodes the meow
should run all the time or never to avoid
I am not certain that sentence is correct.
radiant frigate
:<
obsidian bane
listen to the voices fr
radiant frigate
https://tenor.com/view/you-make-me-sad-monty-python-bothered-let-down-gif-489830...
nocturne dust
we out here anklebiting
summer prairie
going for a run, not sure i want to play with this guy again anyway
summer prairie
Blazing spirit fgs for rotten
summer prairie
That's better yeah
plucky flax
Unstable power would buff warpfire too.
summer prairie
with a proper shriek purg psyker bubble knight would have been better too
radiant frigate
Blazing spirit fgs for rotten
blazing spirit slaughterer illisi
plucky flax
with a proper shriek purg psyker bubble knight would have been better too
Well yes but that guy was using sword more than his staff for whatever reasaon.
sterile steppe
So, what is a force greatsword build for melee psyker?
The Build Bonanza, was pretty.... empty on that one
tulip kettle
It's just gunker
sterile steppe
It's just gunker
Gunker?
tulip kettle
Right side tree, scriers and DD, warp splitting Mm and assail
Try to keep MM at 5 stacks for both by alternating assail and bonks
marble crater
It's been a while since right side tree was buffed, maybe they will in 2026
strong gulch
SG gets buffed like metal bands add unnecessary umlauts to their band names.
Ok. Maybe not that aggressively.
radiant frigate
SG gets buffed like metal bands add unnecessary umlauts to their band names.
scrïër's gäzë
marble crater
SG gets buffed like metal bands add unnecessary umlauts to their band names.
Umlaute are very necessary, they can be the difference between muggy and gay
strong gulch
Umlaute are very necessary, they can be the difference between muggy and gay
Don't encourage the metal bands.
It's just gonna be ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ ¨¨¨¨¨¨ to them.
modest perch
i can assure you those umlauts are entirely necessary
modest perch
yës
radiant frigate
Don't encourage the metal bands.
It's just gonna be ¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ ¨¨¨¨¨¨ to them.
this one is not a fan of the hëävy mëtäl ümläüt
radiant frigate
Umlaute are very necessary, they can be the difference between muggy and gay
also this is very true
strong gulch
Add acid to unbind them.
grizzled burrow
this one is not a fan of the hëävy mëtäl ümläüt
Psykër
Psykër, mäy ï plëäsë hävë sömë përïls?
acoustic jacinth
SG gets buffed like metal bands add unnecessary umlauts to their band names.
To be faaaiiirrr a lot of good metal bands are scandinavian so it's only normal, but i know what you mean
It's mostly US bands that slander it
Then again once you get into black metal you don't read much of anything anymore
wraith sphinx
Entomologist showing off their weird butterfly collection:
chrome linden
flame staff. crit on peril level, or brittleness on hit?
nvm. the brittle only applies like 20%.
its 100% bugged
16 stacks of 2.5 should be 40. its only applying 20
tulip kettle
no it is capped at 20
but it stacks with other sources of brittleness, unlike most brittle sources
allowing a max cap of 60% brittle
but yes its still bad
blaze away and nexus
nexus gives more crits = faster stacking + more EE procs
chrome linden
it very clearly says it stacks 16 times at 4x per direct hit. 2.5x16 stacks is 40. at best they need to add extra text that clarifies that its not 16 stacks and will stop at 8 stacks (8x2.5=20)
idle valve
unless it's just for flame staff, i've been doing 2 charged ults on trauma staff to what i thought would be capping brittle
interesting stuff ain't it
grizzled burrow
it very clearly says it stacks 16 times at 4x per direct hit. 2.5x16 stacks is 4...
Yeah that needs fixing because thats clearly incorrect if it stops at 20%
plucky flax
Ratting around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUaRljea1Qs
thorn cedar
I still wanna know who the fuck decided that purgatus needed blaze away added.
tulip kettle
a lot of the stacking debuffs in this game apply half the value they state
so yes, it says it applies 2.5% per stack but it actually only applies 1.25%
plucky flax
I still wanna know who the fuck decided that purgatus needed blaze away added.
Sry was me
pine elk
is voidstrike better than purgatus as a general use staff
assuming i want to actually have long range capability
zealous wing
is voidstrike better than purgatus as a general use staff
of only those two, yes
i personally prefer voidblast (trauma), because of the ranged and aoe versatility of it
voidstrike can clear a horde, but only if they're lined up well, while voidblast can work in any case, and is faster to actually fire
pine elk
wait i think i got my staves mixed up
I meant Voidblast, not bowling ball
i haven't actually tried out the bowling ball staff yet
ripe obsidian
allowing a max cap of 60% brittle
I have seen higher than 60, I believe. Might be misremembering
ripe obsidian
i haven't actually tried out the bowling ball staff yet
Bowling ball is most fun stick
tulip kettle
im not sure what else is stackable, but im not saying its not possible
most things stack with each other to cap at 40
but i know pen flames is seperate
ripe obsidian
Arby shotgun is a unique source
ripe obsidian
25% immediately
ripe obsidian
From the special ammo. For like 20 seconds or something
dusk timber
Scum bonesaw brittleness is also unique right?
sterile steppe
For Blaze Force Sword, how would you build it? and would you use Obscurus, or Deimos?
zealous wing
deimos if its your singletarget sidearm, obscurus if you want something mix between single and mid hordeclear
zealous wing
deimos also knocks crushers and maulers on their ass
sterile steppe
That was lacking
ripe obsidian
:(
zealous wing
i use deflector, but i think ... slaughterer? is the other offensive blessing
ripe obsidian
I have been lazy with the weapons section
tulip kettle
superiority
sterile steppe
would you go uncanny, unstable power?
ripe obsidian
I'll finish it one day!
zealous wing
ah
tulip kettle
slaughterer is fine for horde clear but not much else
zealous wing
i knew it was something with an s
tulip kettle
superiority boosts SB DPS
zealous wing
am not versed in obscure ways
sterile steppe
and what perks?
ripe obsidian
Maniac + Carapace
sterile steppe
deflector does look nice!
tulip kettle
deflector is pretty good defensively, very nice with kinetic deflection talent
sterile steppe
ill try superiority, because i have bubble
zealous wing
its more the block cost i use it for, since i dont run KD on the builds i use obscurus on
ripe obsidian
I never run KD anymore on non DD builds
zealous wing
it bites me in the ass a lot
tulip kettle
i dont path to it, but if i already am on that side of the tree its really good for the one point investment
sterile steppe
wait, so warp resist as dump?
zealous wing
yes
tulip kettle
yes
zealous wing
low as you can get it
shell ivy
wait, so warp resist as dump?
pretty much always from my uderstanding
zealous wing
yeah, 99% of cases the dump is warp res
sterile steppe
ah....i got mobility
tulip kettle
on certain staves for certain builds you would choose otherwise, but as a rule of thumb always warp res dump on psyker
mighty shuttle
I have wrath on my force greatsword, and precog blessing, not sure if other blessing is better than precog though so wanted to ask
tulip kettle
you want unstabke
zealous wing
unstable power
mighty shuttle
It's only 5% strength though
tulip kettle
its not
zealous wing
20% *
tulip kettle
it stacks
quartz barn
shred + unstable
tulip kettle
yes the "meta" is shred unstable
ripe obsidian
Unstable + Shred or Riposte
zealous wing
tulip kettle
wrath helps marginally with trash clear but not much else
ripe obsidian
Psyker loves crits
zealous wing
i just chose shred because i bonk things
tulip kettle
riposte is fine but generally less reliable than shred
sterile steppe
Why not ripost on greatsword?
ripe obsidian
And the warpshock slash is better horde clear than wrath will ever be
sterile steppe
riposte is fine but generally less reliable than shred
AH!
tulip kettle
when you are swinging into hordes
quartz barn
riposte doesnt always proc :/
tulip kettle
you really want those crits to fill the bar as fast as posible
zealous wing
yeah i ran one round with riposte and felt the difference
tulip kettle
if you are staggering everything by smacking it you wont get to proc riposte so easily
sterile steppe
but.....chained hits, if you hit dead body, it all goes away right?
tulip kettle
yes
it wont matter though
when you need it its there
which is when theres a bunch o stuff for you to smack
zealous wing
or something big
sterile steppe
and cara + Unyeilding?
sterile steppe
not flak?
tulip kettle
nope
zealous wing
it doesnt struggle with flak much at all lol
tulip kettle
you will 1 shot flak enemies anyway with high peril + warp rider + unstable
sterile steppe
OH
Christ....I am always so broke
how do you guys build the Electrokinetic staff?
zealous wing
depends
tulip kettle
theres 2 major ways
ripe obsidian
Nexus + Surge, Flak + Maniac imo
tulip kettle
surge nexus or flurry nexus
zealous wing
Nexus + Surge, Flak + Maniac imo
this is for primary spam
tulip kettle
flurry nexus is unyield and flak, surge is flak maniac
ripe obsidian
this is for primary spam
I'm boycotting RMB until crits get fixed. >:(
sterile steppe
whats wrong with the crits?
tulip kettle
they dont work properly. and by properly i mean at all
they are outside of the brackets in the code that they need to be inside
six is the codeguru
sterile steppe
OHHHH
zealous wing
specifically for RMB?
sterile steppe
so... electro staff does not crit?
ripe obsidian
EK RMB crits don't have the proper curve applied because someone put them outside the brackets. It's dumb. Like a 5 second fix.
sterile steppe
or, just the RMB does not crit
tulip kettle
just RMB
ripe obsidian
So they do like 25-30% lower damage than they should
zealous wing
so, basically, grab a low warp res EK, and a low charge rate EK, then you have one for RMB spam and one for surge surge
sterile steppe
ah, so the charge rate one, is for RMB?
or, the warp res EK, is for RMB....which is broken ATM. and the Charge Rate is for LMB?
tulip kettle
or, the warp res EK, is for RMB....which is broken ATM. and the Charge Rate is f...
yes
quiet inlet
I'm handling mic issues, so no audio output at the moment
quaint lark
@verbal thistle I need the gif please, im having an argument with someone and need to show how I feel