psyker-class

[verbal thistle]

its an operation

[leaden thunder]

fair

[verbal thistle]

its fine to solo with no standing still obj

[strong gulch]

I'd keep a list of maps with environments that you'd like to practice in too.

[verbal thistle]

but it doesnt come close to length and amount of triggers of a normal map

[strong gulch]

Like the beginning of Baross has stairs, objects, drop downs, cover, etc to to kite around.

The middle of sycorax too.

[trim wren]

Ok lads this feels AMAZING

[trim wren]

Thanks for all the help

[strong gulch]

Glad something is working for ya.

[ripe obsidian]

I feel like we lose every game we play together @tulip kettle and I do not know why

[wispy bay]

Because you guys are too comfortable knowing you can usually win, therefore more relax.

If you relax, you are dead, if you are dead, you can't kill.

[tulip kettle]

Was particularly bad tonight

Though top damaging 3 times with zealot was interesting

[ripe obsidian]

I tried going bubble to keep people alive

So my damage was pretty eh

[tulip kettle]

Yeah I saw, unfortunately can't save stupid and bad

[ripe obsidian]

I think I just want to avoid ritual modifiers from now on. They're super buggy and often stack 2 or 3 in a row, and I think they share triggers with twins.

It's just frustrating.

[void perch]

am i dumb or is smite like

mid

[marsh badger]

I didn't even see that last 1 trigger

[ripe obsidian]

I asked the scum about it

It's apparently another bugged one

It's on the far side of the bridge, but triggers at full speed as soon as you exit the door.

[verbal thistle]

yes

[potent echo]

What are the must take toughness Regen talents for meleeker

Are mettle and expenditure optional?

[marsh badger]

so it starts full speed and it's on the otherside of the captain + monstrosity bridge trigger?

[ripe obsidian]

I would not say so. Expenditure is quite good, as is Mettle, and they both path to Perfect Timing, which is a great damage boost.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. It's certainly a thing

[zinc phoenix]

No. But the DR tier you can mostly skip

[thorn cedar]

what did you got so far

[potent echo]

I usually take the melee toughness talent idk if that's better or worse than mettle

I do throw alot of assails so maybe mettle is better...?

[cyan lily]

Can I have a build for my friend he’s really bad and goes down a lot is there something he can build to be better ? Support build ???

[potent echo]

SmitEPpy

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fc4f03e-d841-412a-849f-8ebb94b2958b/the-good-smyker-build

[plucky flax]

Hmm for whatever reason my damage with bubble on asian server is kind of high.

28mins32secs

22mins51secs

Got 2.7 mils too but that was with shriek

[potent echo]

Did you use a Chinese name to blend in

[plucky flax]

As they said

[potent echo]

I should too

[plucky flax]

When in rome.

[potent echo]

They really hate 老外

[plucky flax]

I dunno what that is

[potent echo]

Whatever they can't read basically

[ripe obsidian]

Some stuff. It's in the Bonanza under the melee psyker section if you want to look

[ripe obsidian]

That is many much damage in a short amount of time

[cyan lily]

Tyvm

[thorn cedar]

I like No Mans Land.

[mighty cipher]

This game sucks ass. I "wasn't in the fire" which led to poxwalkers hitting me and instakilling me instead of just going down

[candid temple]

trapped results in a lot of instakills in my experience

just things

[mighty cipher]

I only outright died because I didn’t down to the fire which I was CLEARY FUCKING IN

[candid temple]

yes, because you were trapped, in trapped you instadie often

[potent echo]

Trap into flamer is also death

They have combo plays out here

[quaint lark]

Welcome to the Dark Side brother Smyker

[mighty cipher]

You’re missing the issue here. I DIED. Outright. I should’ve gone DOWN for a relatively easy save to the fire but for some dumbass reason I wasn’t taking any damage from it.

[candid temple]

wdym missing? I know you instadied.
That is why I said instadie.

[mighty cipher]

I didn’t die because of the trap itself, I died because of bullshit hit detection.

[candid temple]

If you hadn't been trapped, you'd have been downed.

[mighty cipher]

That’s just not how traps work?

[candid temple]

That is why I said it's a thing that happens sometimes?

Report it if you can be bothered.

Fatshark will fix in next 2 years.

[mighty cipher]

That’s not what happened. You can see it clear as day. I got hit by poxwalkers because I wasn’t considered “in the fire” by the game.

[candid temple]

again, if you weren't trapped, you wouldn't have instadied in that situation

so I'm not sure why saying "you died because you were trapped", is unclear?

[potent echo]

He could have died in a less die way

[mighty cipher]

It’s havoc 30. Melee does corruption damage at that level and THATS what got me killed.

[candid temple]

Yes.

[potent echo]

But it was possible he could have least died

Unlucky gamers

😔

[candid temple]

If you say so, but instadeath thanks to trapped in auric maelstorm as well.

[mighty cipher]

Poxwalkers can legitimately take a full wound off you in one hit with 0 toughness.

[candid temple]

also you don't seem to have anywhere near enough corruption?

[mighty cipher]

Bruh

[potent echo]

Corruption damage in habocs

[ripe obsidian]

Oof, I feel so helpless with Inferno + Bubble on H40. Like, I can keep my team alive, but if a wall of stimmed ragers closes in on me, I'm just dead.

@icy breach you'll be pleased to know I just got hardcarried by a Zealot.

[fierce crest]

switch to mobile melee and just kite? then swap back once theyre thinned out a bit

[ripe obsidian]

This is the correct answer. I might need to make my melee weapon a knife on this build

Rather than Deimos

The team was also a FotF Zealot, a stealth zealot (who was very good), and a VoC vet, so I had very little peel other than VoC if things got hairy.

It did feel a bit like four single player games happening at the same time, and only one person was really good enough to survive that situation.

I spent probably 10 minutes dead in the middle due to an unlucky respawn point, hence my very low damage. But even still, it was not a good performance from me.

[timber moon]

I just found out different Mks are a thing for weapons and I am stupid

[nocturne wasp]

Mah they don't explain it in the slightest

Gotta figure it out eventually

[timber moon]

What's the difference between Voidblast Force Staff and Voidstrike Force Staff?

I have Voidblast currently

[nocturne wasp]

Secondary fire.
One fires a projectile, one explodes a circle on the ground

[ripe obsidian]

Voidblast does explosive damage in a radius

Voidstrike shoots bowling balls

[timber moon]

Fair fair

[ripe obsidian]

It is unfair, in truth. Voidblast is strong at any level. Voidstrike falls off in harder difficulties.

[timber moon]

Pain

[drowsy fjord]

Hey guys. Trying to get a solid Greatsword together. After about 12 rolls I haven't been able to get one with Warp Resistance under 80. Is this just crazy unlucky or is this intended? For the time being I have one with the dump stat being Defense

[ripe obsidian]

It is unlucky

12 rolls is not terribly many

[mighty cipher]

Today is simply not my day

[ripe obsidian]

For example, I rolled... 350? 400? force swords the other day looking for the lowest warp resist possible, and maybe 3/50 were warp resist dumps

[drowsy fjord]

Sweet Emperor...

Alright. Thank you for making me feel better. Is the Defense dump stat going to be okay for some casual play?

[ripe obsidian]

It's fine for casual play, yes

[drowsy fjord]

I played back at launch but my friends and I just got back into the game and we're lost with crafting

[ripe obsidian]

Don't worry too much about it

Crafting is fairly important for higher difficulties. Doesn't matter so much otherwise

[ripe obsidian]

Splat.

[drowsy fjord]

I'd like to get into the game more. It's a lot of fun. Trying to get to the point where we can start doing harder stuff

Speaking of, would this be a decent build?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fe8da5a-85d2-4193-a584-e47a6a8b5135/electrodominance-havoc-40-scrier-smiter

[mighty cipher]

It’s been like this all day
You shoulda seen the last clip I posted of me dying horribly.

[ripe obsidian]

it is certainly a build. I would not call it a good one.

Look in the pins of this channel. I have 50+ psyker builds in the pinned guide

Checked over by members of the community and modified based on feedback

[drowsy fjord]

Oh, great thank you!

[ripe obsidian]

Did you see my scoreboard a bit higher up?

I've been having a hell of a day, too

[drowsy fjord]

Do you have a particular favorite or recommended one?

[ripe obsidian]

My favorite is Inferno + Venting Shriek, personally.

Bubble Knight is another favorite of folks in here

Well, let me rephrase. My favorite for high difficulties is Inferno + Venting Shriek

My favorite for goofing around is Voidstrike stuff

Probably the Voidstrike + Shriek + Disrupt Destiny build in the guide

[drowsy fjord]

I'll check those out! I was doing the build I linked earlier for Crowd Control. I guess late game the head popping is more useful though?

[ripe obsidian]

Smite is strong at any difficulty, honestly. People who say otherwise are wrong. Smite is also, for many people, boring to play and boring to play with. It can invalidate your teammates' abilities that rely on dodging, too.

Inferno and Voidblast staves offer strong crowd control as well without those downsides.

I do have several paragraphs on smite in the guide as well, talking about these topics

[wispy bay]

Now it is desperado ganger...

[strong gulch]

around 30 rolls is about average to get the desired dump [x/60]

that now accounting for if your fishing for a specific number or super dumped stat

If you get it sooner than about 20, you were lucky.

If you have to roll more that 40. you were unlucky.

If you're trying to get like 14% WR with everything else 80, then you need all of the luck you can find.

[mighty cipher]

Also keep in mind that being a higher level makes it more likely for you to get a “dump stat’d” weapon.

[drowsy fjord]

Yeah, I'm 30 so everything was dropping at 80s and a 60 more or less

@ripe obsidian Thank you for the link! I'm looking through everything now. For the Bubble build, are people mostly running the duelling sword or a force sword?

[mighty cipher]

Just making sure. I didn’t know that and rolled 100 weapons twice trying to get early godrolls for arby.

[ripe obsidian]

Force sword is better than dueling sword in my opinion. Either works

[sturdy reef]

force sword can kill hordes

[drowsy fjord]

Sounds good! I was hoping you'd say Force honestly

[sturdy reef]

deflector can help in a pinch

[drowsy fjord]

I've got Deflector on my greatsword and I was loving it

[quaint lark]

Deflector is amazing just not my taste as I perfer some more damage but its amazing

[patent jacinth]

Deflector when I just dodge

[quaint lark]

Look deflector is good like for new players learning the game its perfect

Hell old players its good for to as its a decent blessing

[zealous wing]

for the block efficiency alone its good

[ripe obsidian]

A wild Hexis appears

[patent jacinth]

Bcr in darktide

I remember

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ash-ketchum-pokeball-pokeballs-gif-5634823

[zealous wing]

sup

[strong gulch]

Hi frens

[zealous wing]

beans!

[white willow]

Hi

[zealous wing]

hello

[strong gulch]

hi hi

[nocturne wasp]

[white willow]

Is psyker melee build worth it?

[zealous wing]

yes

[strong gulch]

ye

[white willow]

With which sword

[zealous wing]

FGS usually

[velvet wind]

Oi

[zealous wing]

its the best sword we've got

[potent echo]

Pick gaze

[velvet wind]

Are you all pyskers?

[potent echo]

Hit stuff

[zealous wing]

psyker mains at least

[potent echo]

No

[velvet wind]

holds up all of the pyskers at gun point okay. Nobody move. If anyone of you owns a smoker. I need a husband and a smoked brisket.

[white willow]

Thx I will look at the bonanza list on pc

[ripe obsidian]

I am king of the psykers.

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-king-didnt-vote-gif-8051023

[velvet wind]

Okay this guy is just schizophrenic

Does anyone of you own a smoker?

[potent echo]

I own a DN smoker

[white willow]

Whats a smoker like for the meat

[nocturne wasp]

I do not own a smoker but I know how to make one

And then use it after

I am chef

And handy

[strong gulch]

handy chef

[ripe obsidian]

Better a handy chef than a handsy chef

[white willow]

Lol

[nocturne wasp]

Am both

Make for good husband

We can wake up to WAAAGHFORMATIONS every morning

[zealous wing]

is the six doing h40 shenanigans or am i too late

[ripe obsidian]

I can be doing shenanigans. But fair warning, I was playing quite poorly earlier.

[leaden wind]

DONT ANSWER

RUN

[glacial orchid]

I have primarly played zealot, would it be worth leveling a psyker to 30 and going melee psyker

[velvet wind]

YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THE LEX 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️❗️❗️❗️❗️

[zealous wing]

my guy my assignment is 23, youre the one who needs warning

[strong gulch]

If bad h40s are happening, I can contribute.

[velvet wind]

chases him

[strong gulch]

Am sick and it's affecting my hearing.

[zealous wing]

oof

[wispy bay]

NA gang will help you out!

[leaden wind]

trips and starts screaming

[fringe harbor]

finally finished h40, got my ass carried but phew

[velvet wind]

I AM THE LEX 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️❗️❗️❗️

[wispy bay]

We can run 4 psykers 4 smites H40.

[strong gulch]

carried to 40

this is the way

well... my way

[leaden wind]

That would be absolutely amazing to watch

[zealous wing]

as long as those smites are the code kind of smite, im down

[leaden wind]

How long would the match go for

[sturdy reef]

its the most boring shit ever

like watching paint dry

[zealous wing]

i would run smite and just not use it

im a meleeker at heart

[wispy bay]

I mean, we did it before.

[zealous wing]

and smite for melee is ASS

[wispy bay]

Yes, Charged strike was allowed.

[strong gulch]

4 psyker 4 smite was done in season 1

was funny

[leaden wind]

I run BB just for kinetic flayer tbh

[zealous wing]

i run assail on melee/gun

[wispy bay]

Season 1 havoc was difficult because of the gunner overtuned.

[zealous wing]

far more useful dmg wise and peril wise

BB is for staves

[leaden wind]

Yea I’m a stave guy

[zealous wing]

i dont see dom online

[leaden wind]

Full space wizard

[zealous wing]

sad

probably went to bed already

[strong gulch]

that's good

[zealous wing]

is @quiet inlet around

[strong gulch]

no

also bed

[zealous wing]

;(

[strong gulch]

bof haffa work

sleep then work

[zealous wing]

hmm

who do we drag with us then tho

[ripe obsidian]

I already lost Dom like 6 H40s today

Do not subject him to this

[zealous wing]

oh no :(

[wispy bay]

Im up if you want to carry one more.

[zealous wing]

its shenanigans there be no carry

come

[nocturne wasp]

U can drag me

If you want

[strong gulch]

we are 4 now

sad

[nocturne wasp]

Np

[strong gulch]

oh right, I should set up SG for havocs

surely I'll remember right??

[ripe obsidian]

You will, and don't call me Shirley

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-sherlock-martin-freeman-john-watson-benedict-cumberbatch-gif-1082151793375398523

Shirley lock Holmes lol

[strong gulch]

this is a new one

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/buttsmarnn-gif-18440715

[patent jacinth]

I don't think they've ever changed these

[quaint lark]

They have made new ones

[strong gulch]

ye

[quaint lark]

Ive seen some other screenshots and im seeing ones I dont recall seeing before

[nocturne dust]

I'm not sure it is

I vaguely recall it from long ago

[quaint lark]

I dont recall seeing that one before

[strong gulch]

never had it before

also hi

[nocturne dust]

hi

[quaint lark]

Hi

[hearty cairn]

Does this class have a slow start? Legit struggled with the 1st mission unlike my other classes

[quaint lark]

GOT DAMN YOUR BLUE BACKGROUND FOR YOUR PROFILE FELT LIKE OPENING A NEW WINDOWS TAB DAYM!!

[quaint lark]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

This class is especially weak without inestment, yes

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/blinding-maris-heavenly-bodies-maris-heavenly-bodies-the-light-gif-3063367784697337871

[hearty cairn]

Ah. Felt like a liability in the mission

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[quaint lark]

Your gonna get called that by other classes in game lol

[nocturne dust]

You're going to be worse off, but skill can easily compensate provided you don't lag as badly as I do

[quaint lark]

Yea

[hearty cairn]

Fits with me lol. Doesn't help poxbursters have a vendetta against me

[nocturne dust]

2 seconds of gameplay, 5 seconds of disconnecting, and 30 seconds of reconnecting is an experience

[deft stump]

Struggle to lvl 4, grab assail asap.

[deft stump]

I know the feel.

[quaint lark]

Assail at first is always the best option, smite is better later on but after your leveled up and can dish out damage with smite

[patent jacinth]

"Damage"

Maybe 200 per tick

With full tree investment

As opposed to just

Running inferno

[zealous wing]

or a gun

or melee

[patent jacinth]

Or assail

[zealous wing]

or trauma

or voidstrike

or ek

[patent jacinth]

Or fucking staff bash

That worked for a week

[quaint lark]

Im stickin to smite karkers lol

[patent jacinth]

You can even make BB clear if you want and can aim

They really need to bite the bullet and rework smite when they nerf psyker

[hearty cairn]

Are ranged enemies like programmed to focus on psykers or something lol they kept ignoring my teammates and peppering me

[nocturne dust]

Learn to sprint slide

and also stay near cover that can fully block the view, if even a pixel of you is visible enemies can shoot it

[ripe obsidian]

no you

[nocturne dust]

I can't learn, game won't let me play

[strong gulch]

classic deadvoid

[nocturne dust]

I've literally been grinding the event on the lowest difficulty eating overheads because I've been lagging so much after the patch (and before anyone suggests anything, I already did stuff like mess with settings, disable mods, do a clean install, etc.).

[strong gulch]

game won't even load a couple frames

[nocturne dust]

It's worse now

[strong gulch]

omg

[deft stump]

I mean, I went from 24-70 (not including start) fps havoc to 14-40 (including start) fps.

Dunno what they did. DCs also happen more when they crapshoot.

More rubberbanding as well, but usually small enough to ignore.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, sad since I love Darktide, but I'm just gonna have to quit if Fatshark can't figure out performance

[deft stump]

I also went below low on graphics.

Did not help.

Oh, how did chem 'nades go for you?

I call them -40 FPS 'nades.

[hearty cairn]

Failed a mission while learning the class and a dude who was helping me just said "bruh". I always hate when I'm the reason we fail 😢

[acoustic jacinth]

Nade box ogryn, chem nade hs and kiss my pc goodbye

[ripe obsidian]

I just got some insane rubberbanding on the EUW servers. A shotgunner teleported behind me and bullied me

[zealous wing]

i got DCd

[wispy bay]

ILG is so meh...

[zealous wing]

see, the issue here isnt you, or you learning the class

its that asshole

[deft stump]

Yep. I fixed the box of boom by turning off DLSS.

[hearty cairn]

Well he was being nice like when my magic made me go boom hes like "be careful silly" when reviving lol

[deft stump]

I always get bullied, why panic. Just have to deal with it.

[zealous wing]

then all is well, and normal progression. you're not hindering, youre learning

[deft stump]

Even poxxers bulli, they refuse to die from being stabbed.

[acoustic jacinth]

Happens, randoms are gonna be randoms, no one starts being good at a class, takes time, especially for psyker

There are pinned guides here to help your progress smoother

Assail is a good friend

[hearty cairn]

Not to bother you but I think it was you I failed lol

[deft stump]

They weren't good enough to clutch either to say things.

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah, nothing gives the right really

It's just ppl being bitter on purpose

Hurts to lose, i guess

[deft stump]

It does, Asian mindset much.

Is why you get more tryhards in Asia.

[ripe obsidian]

?

[quaint lark]

Ik the tryhards, you should see Starcraft 2 ehh

Pvp in Sc2 is insane, you see a different language name the differently just spiked by 20 levels but I hold my ground and still win

[hearty cairn]

Was gonna message the dude and it said his name was six something lol

[deft stump]

No point is losing and bringing shame upon your name/family.

Only winning, only being number one matters.

[quaint lark]

Hell id be happy to bring some shame on my family name just for my mom's heartless ass

[deft stump]

Oh. But is why scoreboards are extra toxic in Asia.

[quaint lark]

She deserves it

[deft stump]

The 'best' will use it to mock the 'worst'.

[quaint lark]

Im not the best but ill be damned if I let someone else win lol

[deft stump]

It's a co-op game.

[quaint lark]

Sc2 has co-op and pvp

[deft stump]

The only thing that matters is someone getting to extraction.

[quaint lark]

Oh your talking about darktide lol

[deft stump]

Yes, but to be fair, I mean all co-op games.

Even DRG is the same. You lose out on bonus creds if you had to leave someone behind, but is better at least one person make it out.

If you aren't at greybeard everything maxed out.

[ripe obsidian]

That was 100% not me. I am goofing around with friends right now, and I have never said "bruh" in my life.

[hearty cairn]

Ah just a coincidence lol. His character was rosine or something

[ripe obsidian]

My characters are all oony-eepus variants

Spoony-Threepus, Gloomy-Kreepus, etc.

@zealous wing @tulip kettle the EU server is rejecting me. D:

Failed to join strike team and crashing

[tulip kettle]

yeah its taking a dump seemingly

[zealous wing]

dom you need to go anyway, right?

[wispy bay]

I'm NA, so I have an excuse for not able to push dogs...

[zealous wing]

oh

[wispy bay]

Like, it is always the dog that got me.

[ripe obsidian]

@deft stump I was cosplaying as you.

400 ping, teleporting enemies, rubberbanding

Like playing a slideshow

[hearty cairn]

Lol met a dude named pancake twice in a row. Treated him like a VIP second time and made it my mission to get him home lol

[thin knoll]

Anybody got a scriers gaze smite build? I wanna mess around with it in mortis.

With empowered psionics.

[zealous wing]

thats about it

just do whatever with those in mind

[deft stump]

I run from boomers for a reason.

They don't even ignite next to me at times.

So gambly.

[deft stump]

Did you clutch though?

As a sus build vet.

[wispy bay]

Burster is ok, aside from some weird damage detection on geometry, which happens doesn't matter the lag.

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, the server kicked me out and refused to let me reconnect

[deft stump]

Not for me at times.

[ripe obsidian]

In the pinned build guide

[deft stump]

Oh, so one of the worst days.

I usually am scared of being last one cos of it.

[ripe obsidian]

Ah well

[deft stump]

Also the fact I'm bad and can't clutch.

And everything is a gamble and a dice roll.

[void perch]

you just did

L

you lied to us

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[ripe obsidian]

Worry not, friend Karien, for I am also bad and cannot clutch.

[deft stump]

If things happen, is just pure luck.

No skill here.

[ripe obsidian]

We can be unskilled together. :D

[deft stump]

True.

I'm vewy unlucky though.

[tulip kettle]

i saw karien clutch 2 times in the same game yesterday

shes just gaslighting

[ripe obsidian]

Karien is better than me, I already knew this

[tulip kettle]

she took literally 0 dmg

better than all of us

[wispy bay]

I just played auric mael in NA server and finished it quite easily.

The odd thing for me is that I don't feel the lag when I play EU, but it clearly does something.

[ripe obsidian]

A hero among us mere mortals

[strong gulch]

hi dom

[tulip kettle]

hello :)

[strong gulch]

I can't find uwu gryn

Found him

[tulip kettle]

:D

not really appropriate for psyker main chat but

you people make me happy

[strong gulch]

Yay

[ripe obsidian]

My cat refuses to drink water from a bowl. She only drinks from running faucets or human cups.

[tulip kettle]

she thinks shes people

[deft stump]

I did not.

[tulip kettle]

you LITERALLY did

[deft stump]

I do not.

[deft stump]

I'll give that one, but it's damnation.

[deft stump]

That's a flatout lie.

[deft stump]

It was two different missions. A train and commsplex.

[deft stump]

I am a person, so people counts.

[ripe obsidian]

You are the best of us all.

[deft stump]

Also, you wouldn't be dead if you weren't literally on 36 hours of no sleep.

[tulip kettle]

thats like

200 ms equivalent

[deft stump]

I am not. If you actually saw my gameplay.

[tulip kettle]

youre still twice a good as that

[deft stump]

Nope. Just used to playing half asleep.

[gray juniper]

Powerful but seems redundant

[deft stump]

Also, I'll also give that one time with the pogryn. But that one was still an unlucky event.

[strong gulch]

My old man cat drinks from all of them and complains when you don't give him his water treats or you do it wrong.

[deft stump]

And Hex nearly killed said pogryn solo.

[strong gulch]

Literally old man yells at cloud.

[gray juniper]

That’s funny my cat will prefer to drink after a dog from their bowl to her own fountain

If I give her a bowl herself she’ll barely drink from it

[deft stump]

Because safe maybe.

[gray juniper]

They probably taste the dog saliva listetine

[ripe obsidian]

You have to limit yourself to make it fair to your teammates

[deft stump]

No, I just play at weird hours.

[gray juniper]

Shackling the power level

Piccolo in his weighted armor suit and all that

[deft stump]

Pretty sure ping matters not in terms of stuff, I just rely on luck.

[gray juniper]

Nah you have to be comparatively pretty good to most people since you bother to do that so often

Seriously I was playing the other day and went down because the game stuttered when I didn’t expect it to

[deft stump]

No, I just don't wanna play solo.

[strong gulch]

To steal a quote from Ninja who probably stole it from somewhere.

"Better lucky than good."

[deft stump]

Is why I keep blocking.

[ripe obsidian]

As do we all

[deft stump]

Eh?

[strong gulch]

You said you rely on luck.

[deft stump]

You know I lack it. Twinned? 1 in 58 'nades.

[strong gulch]

So better lucky that good. It comes up in Ninja's DND games.

[icy breach]

Trully? Thats… new
Especially since now stimm modifier is piss easy (yellow is free dmg unless on shooters, captains, shotgunners & plasma gunners
Blue is just 60% dr & carapace center body mass - cc it & its ez
Red has insane stagger resist… but no dr so they die quickly & still can be staggered by abilities so ez
Green gives double hp and as long as it lasts also some stagger resist but you just brute force it & its ez)
Still; apprecieating a zealot is a welcome info

[icy breach]

You know what they say;
Those who are not lucky in games are lucky in love

[acoustic jacinth]

Managed to win a battle of attrition last night too. All alone in auric mael, piety + scourge + shred on evisc made me unkillable

Whenever i felt i was taking damage i looked down and it was like "2 health gone, anyways"

[deft stump]

That was me on vet with them.

But damns.

[ripe obsidian]

I played very badly and they played very well

[deft stump]

That's just H40.

[icy breach]

Some days do be like that i feel ya

[icy breach]

No bby thats just your 300 ping & panicking

[acoustic jacinth]

Though i still feel they murked my mk3 evisc a little. It sucks that the lights have such a hard time staggering. Have to activate to get through to the reapers

[icy breach]

Its a crime that it does not stagger crushers on demand to begin with

[deft stump]

Excuse me, I just panic all the time.

[plucky flax]

Sry wasn't me

[ripe obsidian]

PaniKarien

[deft stump]

Wot.

[wispy bay]

When you are in the zone, you might not know it.

[gray juniper]

Yea when the game takes a dump it’s really the only way

It was disheartening going through the new map and for the first time seeing npcs running in place. Performance had never been that bad. I wonder what’s going on

[deft stump]

You will still DC sadly. And I know. It happens worse outside of the local server. Wonder if they borked the netcode server side.

Also, minigames harder now.

The rhythm timing ones. Way tighter and unfair with lag.

[plucky flax]

Tru

[deft stump]

Is nawt.

[grave hill]

Hey, new player here coming from VT2. Started playing damnation, goes smooth so far but i was wondering if Assail is still good? I find it great for specials and shooters but its not that good vs armor. Do i just run force sword/dueling sword vs armor and forget about it or should i look at brain burst

[acoustic jacinth]

Assail is always good for some horde clear, quick elite pack disposal like shotgunners or even dreg ragers. Brain burst is useful on its own in a few scenarios, though its main use is the passive dmg boost you get from its kinetic flayer subnode.

As for armour, you don't fight carapace with assail nor brain burst

Obscurus or deimos force sword does that job perfectly

But this depends on your build

[tardy pumice]

duelling sword vs. force sword?

for flamer build

shriek

[acoustic jacinth]

Force sword

Force sword/fgs push attack is incredible

And you can also run blessings like deflector

[tardy pumice]

what does duelling sword have that force sword doesnt?

[acoustic jacinth]

Not to mention deimos's stagger vs crushers

[acoustic jacinth]

In this case there is no real incentive to take ds over fs

The only argument you can make

Is mobility

Since ds has good movement tech

[tardy pumice]

yea thats what im using it for atm

and i like the thrust

[acoustic jacinth]

But if u care about that might as well take knife

It's doable fs

Still a good complimentary pick

[tacit stump]

opens bullwarks if teammates don't reset them

[tardy pumice]

im using duelling sword ebcause of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZl65ng5Tfc

[deft stump]

Tanner gets carried by his friends, you know.

You could legit just bring book and get carried by 3 god players.

Heck, even just one on some maps.

[tardy pumice]

hm but when hes arguing in his vids he sounds like he makes sense

and he has a lot to say always

[deft stump]

Confident ppl can lie to your face and you would believe them.

That's how some cults are.

[tardy pumice]

depends how knowledgeable i am about what they are talking about

but also when i link his stuff here, its usually "hes racist" and not arguing with what hes saying about the game

[zealous wing]

lmfao...

dueling sword with inferno is pointless

you want force sword

[deft stump]

Because he has also stated bad info as well.

[zealous wing]

hes said one gun was better than another, tested one, and didnt even aim right

[tardy pumice]

well as a new player, it doesnt look good when ppl avoid arguing points and instead attack the person

[zealous wing]

tanner has a long history here

he IS a bad person,

and his takes are bad to boot

[tardy pumice]

sure and i hear a lot about him being a bad person but not his takes

which is the prob

[zealous wing]

he's said that the mods here are always sending witchhunters after him, even when nothing at all has happened

as for his takes, other than the gun one, i know all his psyker takes are generally bad, but i dont watch him personally to find out

ive heard his take on scum is also funny but idk what it was

[tardy pumice]

and u think ill be convinced like that?

"his takes are generally bad"

[zealous wing]

i am not trying to convince you to hate him i just got here

im just here to say, force sword not dueling sword

and this is why

[deft stump]

Is up to decide if you want to, but dueling on purga is meh when you can push atk with force swords.

[tardy pumice]

yea ik ive seen the highlights of force sword

[deft stump]

Both with uncanny.

Is why my stupid assail build carries purga+Deimos lul.

[tardy pumice]

one thing is i find myself a lot staying in the back holding waves and then duelling sword helps me to return to my team faster

[deft stump]

Last resort.

[wispy bay]

He used to recommend damage dump, then later calling people doing it dumb because it increases the break point.

[deft stump]

Only time you do that is needler or flamer.

[zealous wing]

you should be moving with them, or the team shouldnt be rushing ahead, one of the two is the issue, not the DS, but if you take DS you might as well take knife tbh

[deft stump]

But muh agile.

[zealous wing]

force sword is slow but not so slow youll be lagging behind, unless the team is speedrunning

[wispy bay]

The current DS is not the same DS in older videos btw.

[zealous wing]

it doesnt have stagger anymore

[acoustic jacinth]

When you learn more about the game, and you open a 2 hour video, seeing that by the 10 minute mark the takes are becoming increasingly idiotic, it's a waste of time to comment or watch the rest. Everybody does not like x individual's takes for no reason, there is a pattern to these people. There are pinned guides here which are as good as "guides" will get.

Lagging behind just because you don't have a dsword is understandable if you're used to it but a bad habit at best

[zealous wing]

only youtuber you should follow for meta shit is agentchaos

[wispy bay]

Oh, on day 1 havoc, I remember Tanner shit talked Dome, then he released his first H40 video using Dome...

[deft stump]

That reminds me. I REALLY need to boot up photoshop CS 2 to do something.

[wispy bay]

Like, it was only 1 day apart.

[deft stump]

You mean memes.

[zealous wing]

it works, doesnt it?

[deft stump]

Viable memes.

[zealous wing]

indeed

the best meta

[acoustic jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-metal-gear-rising-raiden-metal-gear-monsoon-gif-24594648

[deft stump]

(It also refs his channel name lul.)

(Unless Chaos changed it.)

[zealous wing]

last video he posted here said agent chaos, so

idk

[deft stump]

That's account. I mean the @ part.

[zealous wing]

never checked

[deft stump]

@ AgentChaosMeme

Remove the space.

[zealous wing]

i see

[wispy bay]

Tanner is also a big grifter, belittling people who correct his misinformation.

[plucky flax]

Never heard of them

[deft stump]

Stop lying.

[acoustic jacinth]

500. Reactions.

[deft stump]

I could do more, I'm just lazy.

[tardy pumice]

hm ok ty guys

[plucky flax]

Try me im not scared

[tardy pumice]

would be cool if the discord had a channel for builds

ease of access

[plucky flax]

There's a pin with some builds

[deft stump]

There's also a thread.

[tardy pumice]

yea ik but sometimes they are from a long time ago, maybe 2 patches ago

[deft stump]

Hard to access at times.

[deft stump]

Naw, they get edited.

I just need to update that one build.

[tardy pumice]

the google doc does seem good

ok ill be careful about tanner then

another question, for pubs, shriek or bubble?

[proper spoke]

People appreciate bubble if you are building for others

[tardy pumice]

yea i wanna build for wahtever keeps the team alive and coordinated

[modest perch]

pubs will just run outside the bubble

[proper spoke]

Some do, yeah. So positioning it between where they will be and the enemies helps too

[modest perch]

however flame psyker is super popular these days so youll just be stealing each others soulblaze buffs

scriers is ultimately the correct choice

[tardy pumice]

according to doc bubble is meta

[proper spoke]

All depends how you want to play

And your team

Try everything. See what feels good

[tardy pumice]

i dont see anything about weapons and their stats in the doc

i see some under the melee/gun psyker category but i dont wanna play that

[acoustic jacinth]

Bubble is okay but it depends on your build + weapons and missing out on shriek is damaging to you as a psyker because soublaze.

[deft stump]

Bubble is better if you know what you are doing. Most normal avg ppl will run to the bubble. Badly placed ones will cause a wipe.

[acoustic jacinth]

Bubble placement can get funni

That's why i take blaze VB and shriek and look at funny numbers on the funny screen

[deft stump]

Shriek is just, spam into hordes.

Flame to 85%, shriek, repeat.

[acoustic jacinth]

With how fast it comes back now that warp battery is a no brainer, spam into oblivion

[deft stump]

Or whatever staff you want.

[acoustic jacinth]

Watch the 20 elite/specialist kills flood the kill feed

[wispy bay]

Dome is meta in havoc*

Below that, it is simply a question of offense vs defense.

[tardy pumice]

yea i only play havoc

also what do u guys think about these nodes? keep?

from this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a027409f-a745-44c1-b76a-045c26d47fa3/the-ultimate-inferno-psyker

VECTs build

[deft stump]

Then you want bubble. Shriek/gaze only works if you absolutely know what you are doing.

[wispy bay]

Usually if you have a 2nd psyker, you can run sg or vent.

[deft stump]

But they might both go shriek, lul.

[wispy bay]

KF is an absolute keep if you go BB. For the other, it really depends if you can handle the play style.

[acoustic jacinth]

Kinetic flayer you should always keep if you have BB. As for resonance, well, the idea here is since you can shriek spam so much you can benefit from it more often, spamming BB for some time. Though only if you care about it

[wispy bay]

I can't use that speed BB node effectively in havoc like Vect.

[jovial juniper]

Do you plan on using your ability then using BB?
Because if you don't then you can drop Resonance

[tardy pumice]

yea i do that, shriek and brain blast

kill some sniper or whatever

bomber

[wispy bay]

Well, then it is a keep.

[tardy pumice]

ok

obscurus vs. deimos? on fs

[wispy bay]

It is too situational for most people. Not easy to pull off.

[acoustic jacinth]

This is what i run for inferno + blaze voidblast.

[acoustic jacinth]

Deimos is safer since it knocks crushers on their ass obscurus has a better TTK

[deft stump]

Taste. Deimos is safer, obscurus can technically kill faster.

[wispy bay]

Pure anti armour, Deimos.
Jack of all trades, Obscurus.

[tardy pumice]

why does it have better ttk?

just more swing dmg?

[wispy bay]

Obscurus, but you need to hit the combo every time.

[acoustic jacinth]

It has a very good single target combo, with a strikedown heavy that is quite damaging

[tardy pumice]

what combo?

[wispy bay]

H1 > L > L

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah

[tardy pumice]

heavy > light > light?

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah repeat

[tardy pumice]

ok

[wispy bay]

Then L > H2 > L for horde

[acoustic jacinth]

Fairly shrimple just aim

[acoustic jacinth]

Hes got inferno so its whatevs anyways

[wispy bay]

Not using combos reduces the dps output quite noticeably.

[tardy pumice]

btw i saw some psyker hit insanely fast, did he use some 3rd party trick or is there a weap?

[deft stump]

Macro 'cheating'.

[wispy bay]

Oh, that one guy... Yes

[tardy pumice]

is it actually cheating?

like bannable

[wispy bay]

It is a pve game... I don't think dev care...

[acoustic jacinth]

No

[deft stump]

If you ruin enough games to gather enough reports, maybe.

[acoustic jacinth]

Darktide still has archived literal cheat mods

You could get banned

But unlikely

Cuz darktide

(Praying on a VT2 level of strictness)

[wispy bay]

Those are not even mods, but literal hacks.

[acoustic jacinth]

Yes

[wispy bay]

Some of them can dox you...

[acoustic jacinth]

Yes

That's dt mods for you

When you let players do whatever they want

[deft stump]

Most ppl wouldn't care. Console players may get angry at the unfairness.

Cos cheat mods only for PC.

Same for macros.

Xbox certified controllers even had macros stripped from them.

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah it's a neverending debate that never goes anywhere but to me it's just funny. How in dt they reason it with whatever they can, and in VT2..

It's like it's not fatshark

[deft stump]

Even basic turbo mode got stripped.

Think autoclicker.

[modest trellis]

Meanwhile Skitarius:

[acoustic jacinth]

They stripped armoury ffs. Only recently came back, and it doesn't even appear so in steam workshop

[hollow summit]

strange extra 1% roll

[deft stump]

I call that cheats.

[acoustic jacinth]

But i'm glad they don't care tbh

I much prefer the way VT2 is

[deft stump]

Fullauto, keep swinging and Unga Bunga are fair versions if you claim light spam is hurting fingers.

[modest trellis]

I call it swag

[deft stump]

Honestly, the worst is just scoreboard. It breeds the most toxicity.

Asian mentality but now they can use it to screech at people.

Straight up bully the worst performer.

[modest trellis]

Wait you're being serious?

Lol

[deft stump]

Yes.

[modest trellis]

Hilarious

[deft stump]

It's a co-op game where nothing matters but getting to extraction and now you have someone just flaming away at a newbie.

[modest trellis]

The problem is in the person flaming away, not in the mod

C'mon, be fr

[deft stump]

Yes, but without it, there is no proof who is doing more damage.

[modest trellis]

Funny that you think they need proof

Every game in existence has veteran players who get mad at noobs

[deft stump]

True, is why I simply don't understand why they would go to malice to just do that.

[deft stump]

Also, some use that addon that announces damage done per player at the end.

[modest trellis]

So?

If having damage announced irks you multiplayer games might not be for you

[deft stump]

I know damage done means nothing, but it has been used to mock others at the end.

[modest trellis]

Le mean words in chat, how horrible

Grow up

[tardy pumice]

how do ppl point location so fast?

is there a mod?

like the "go here" sign

[deft stump]

Maybe you are part of it. Bullies do choose any way way they can to do it even if pointless.

[jovial juniper]

Double click your tag button

[modest trellis]

It's a setting iirc

[jovial juniper]

You can check it under Inputs iirc

[tardy pumice]

oh derp

[modest trellis]

I use Scoreboard to gauge my own relative performance. I don't find interacting with other players in chat particularly interesting

[deft stump]

It might not work on Arby though.

[modern bluff]

If you're on PC, it's press and hold B to bring the wheel up. Straight up is "Go here" and diagonal bottom right is "Thanks"

Double tab B to make the eyeball ping. Single tap for the enemy marker.

[tardy pumice]

yea thx got it done

btw are there wallhacks in this game? i played with a guy who always knew when bosses were coming and how many, way ahead of anyone else

its the same guy who used the macro for attack speed

[zealous wing]

there are mods like that that show things yeah, but the game is also heavily audio reliant, so there can be given benefit of the doubt... but, if they macro for attack speed increase, well.....

[hollow summit]

me with my self made vt2 autoclicker

[zealous wing]

autoclicker/hold for light spam is one thing

[tardy pumice]

what mods show boss spawns?

[zealous wing]

there are people who use macros to do more complex things like block cancels or swap cancels to speed up attacks

idk

i dont use them

[deft stump]

I call them cheats, but the cheaters just mock anyway.

[zealous wing]

they are cheats, yeah

[tulip kettle]

there is a mod called spawn feed

its not a cheat, its on nexus

it tells you everything that spawns

[zealous wing]

but a wallhack mod is what i mean

like, highlights

[tulip kettle]

there ARE actual cheats for this game but theyre very uncommon and very hard to find

[tardy pumice]

btw warp resist dump for fs right?

just double checking

[tulip kettle]

well, theres a mod that removes walls, yes

makes all level geometry textures transparent

that one is an actual cheat

[deft stump]

I mean, there's that exestance but not exestance one.

Just perma highlights anything in range you put into it without the buffs from it.

[acoustic jacinth]

GRRRAHHH SOFFFTTT HAAANDSSS BROTHERRR

https://tenor.com/view/paddock-gif-26187701

[hollow summit]

i aint playing slayer without it

[acoustic jacinth]

That's me eating your soft fingers

Getting my protein

[hollow summit]

also wears out my mouse

[acoustic jacinth]

Shade dual dagger with speed potion

Click away boy

[deft stump]

Fan the trigger.

[hollow summit]

the elgi can fuck off

[acoustic jacinth]

Bahahaga

Its the funniest shit in vt2 server because its a very common thing

Qq cancel for-
"Oh yeah i use a mac-"
SOOOFTTT HANDSS

[hollow summit]

genuinely, i care not

[acoustic jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-drink-beer-drinking-beer-beer-bash-wwe-gif-16765874

[hollow summit]

but the elgi i despise

[deft stump]

You can have soft hands without a macro.

Or am I reading it wrong?

[acoustic jacinth]

Depends, if you click enough your skin will eventually leave you

This is called

The sigma(r) grindset

[deft stump]

I dunno, I knoife/shiv spam so...

[acoustic jacinth]

Lolol

New class looks fun for that

Too bad ion like HS cosmetics

[deft stump]

On all classes. Except Arby.

[acoustic jacinth]

I want shield weapons ☹️

[deft stump]

If arby had a knofe and shield...

[acoustic jacinth]

We need like a

Cool ass power mace with a shield

Or a traditional crusader sword n shield

[deft stump]

Powerfist.

I want a powerfist.

[acoustic jacinth]

Powerfist is missing too yes

GLAIVES

Chainglave

Sigh

Cmon mr.fatshark

[deft stump]

I wanna Commissar Raege.

[acoustic jacinth]

Krieg commissar got me hyped though.

[deft stump]

The lady who taught Commisar Fuklaw everything.

[zinc phoenix]

There are mods that tell you what spawned I’ve seen on YouTube

[hollow summit]

boring tho

[zinc phoenix]

Wonder how many times he practiced that in front of a mirror before doing it on tv. Probably a lot 😂

[hollow summit]

probably difficult to not just break the cans

[zinc phoenix]

It’d be pretty embarrassing to be pouring bloody beer everywhere because you cut yourself

[stark haven]

What does yellow damage hit indicator mean in Psykhanium

Google gives contradicting information

[jovial juniper]

It should be critical iirc

[tardy pumice]

yea me too, but idk the name

should be on top popular

[zinc phoenix]

I would assume he’s using that, not wall hacks

It tells you the boss has spawned before the audio cue does

[wispy bay]

I play PC no mod.

As the Big E intended /s

[tardy pumice]

yea'

dont think he was hacking

and he was very skilled

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t use mods either and I think a lot of them are pretty obviously cheats

Like spidey sense telling you where all the specials are around you or alerting you to dodge a net, or the flashlight mod that removes darknesss with a hovering flashlight

[deft stump]

Trading melee for flashlight is one thing.

[tardy pumice]

i found a crazy mod yesterday

[deft stump]

That is just unfair.

[tardy pumice]

this one https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/352

lol

[tulip kettle]

its not crazy

its basically required in highest difficulties

[tardy pumice]

well it just breaks the event

[tulip kettle]

you just dont have time

[tardy pumice]

i mean the obj

[tulip kettle]

to be looking for where they are

[zinc phoenix]

Well that would explain why people always beat me to the scan locations 😂

[acoustic jacinth]

Admittedly spidey sense is very good for deaf people even though it's not used for that by most

[tulip kettle]

i use it

im not deaf

[wispy bay]

Oh really? Because many of us don't need that.

[tulip kettle]

but i play without audio

cool story

[zinc phoenix]

😂 no

[tulip kettle]

i too enjoy walking around with my scanner out

[deft stump]

And yet ppl want me to do it ontop of the 300 ping delay.

Wait, you mean the scanning one.

Not the timing one.

[tulip kettle]

yes the one they broke 3 patches ago

so now the scanner doesnt blip properly

[deft stump]

Then again, there's the cheat mod that plays that one for you.

[tulip kettle]

i think that mod is non functional now

[deft stump]

Wonder if it's the changed timings.

It's a WHOLE lot tighter now.

Very bs with lag.

The timing is way less generous.

[zinc phoenix]

Swap, scan to see relative position, move to the usual spot

[tardy pumice]

is it this mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/194

the one that shows if boss spawned

[tulip kettle]

yes

[deft stump]

Swap is hard on controller though.

[tardy pumice]

ah ok

[deft stump]

Is why having to solo that bit in warren was a nightmare.

[zinc phoenix]

Ok well laggy play with a controller is not the best way to play a twitchy horde shooter I think you’d agree 😂

[deft stump]

Cos everyone else died.

And the rescue is blocked by a door.

Clutch solo? Had to.

[tulip kettle]

🙄

[deft stump]

Where rescue point FS.

Where.

[tulip kettle]

ez snip

[deft stump]

I don't carry. I got lucky. Only one bitch spawned and got shot.

Just ragers mostly which shockmines help.

[deft stump]

How did you know it was with lag.

[zinc phoenix]

I wouldn’t mind if they made you count as blocking while scanning

[zinc phoenix]

You complain constantly about 300+ ping, you’ll have to forgive me for assuming 😂

[deft stump]

Well, it was 280, still though. Mostly so that someone can play with lower ping and hopefully not potato as much.

[zinc phoenix]

BTW as I’ve said when this topic of cheaty mods came up in the past I’d consider them just over the line due to the information advantage but not a replacement for player skill. Agent uses them, Agent also plays incredibly without them. Knowing bad stuff is coming is useless if you lack the ability to make use of that information in a timely manner

Auto clickers I take a much dimmer view of as those are trying to replace player inputs

[deft stump]

Skitarius is just...

But really, I think spidey sense needs to be baseline accessiblity so deaf console players can use it to play.

Or at least some version of it.

[zealous wing]

even if you dont carry, you are good at clutching

last one alive? get everyone back up? thats a clutch

[tulip kettle]

auto clickers are, again, a required accessibility option

carpal tunnel and rsi are not "skills"

as long as you arent providing inputs faster than a human could or bypassing some kind of intended restriction, then what is the issue?

cheat mods are cheat mods, accessibility is accessibility, and QOL is QOL

only the first one is an issue

wrt spidey sense, spawn feed etc, they are literally just using information already available to the player and displaying it in a different way

you arent gaining any information you wouldnt otherwise have access to

[modest trellis]

I haven't seen a single mod for darktide that I would consider a cheat mod

[tulip kettle]

they do exist, but non on nexus

they are very rare to see

things like, turning all of the map goometry transparent

auto blocking

[cosmic sigil]

the game is a horde shooter tho, not where's waldo

[marble crater]

Health bars for enemies

[modest trellis]

Xbox player
Checks out

[marble crater]

Took you way too long to find that information

You need more RAM or a new CPU

[modest trellis]

You need to get a device that you actually own

[marble crater]

Huh?

[wispy bay]

I think they want to make fun of console users.

[tardy pumice]

why does location pinging stop working after some time?

i put it on double tap middle wheel

known issue? or just me

[wispy bay]

I think it overlaps with ping menu.

[zealous wing]

sometimes it just breaks, you cant use TAB either when the bug shows up

pick up an item, open a box, use medicae, fixes it

[thorn cedar]

oh that's what that is

imagine how awkward i felt when suddenly i couldnt tag anymore and i stood perfectly still as a trapper netted me in a clear open room because i was mashing T waiting for my dog to jump it lmao

everyone watched me fail that clutch

i then played three hours of sudoku to repent my dishonour

[marble crater]

Yeah I got that, I'm mostly confused why they did that instead of arguing how health bars for enemies is not a cheat mod

[burnt frigate]

This is the exact symptom I use to check to see if my current client session is bugged. You have to restart to restore the function, or, oddly enough, fail a mission.

Too much winning will do that to you I guess.

[deft stump]

Maybe.

[marble crater]

Clutchien doesn't have the same ring to it

[modest trellis]

for the same reason (i suspect) as you didn't explain how it's a cheat mod. your opinion about the mod isn't of much interest, but making fun of you could prompt a sort of funny reaction

[marble crater]

Because it allows you to see enemies through walls and it also allows you to make better decision based on how much health the enemies have, for example killing the crusher with 5% health instead of the one with 90% health and then only needing to fight one, when you otherwise would have attacked the higher health Crusher and need to deal with both

It gives you information that you are not supposed to have by default or through any settings in the game

[winged trail]

yeah health bars push it too far for my tastes

you can make much more informed decisions in a fight knowing how much health everything has left

[swift stag]

Sounds like a blessing from the omnisaiah to me

[wraith walrus]

hello

[modest trellis]

alright, what the hell. personally i would classify healthbars as a very useful qol mod. in the same way as spawn feed, it provides you with a more convenient way to access the information that you can already access (you could just keep track of how much each crusher was attacked, although this would be very inconvenient)

[wraith walrus]

not a psyker player but is assail the worst blitz in the game?

[modest trellis]

and since drawing the line between cheat and qol based entirely on convenience seems way too arbitrary to me, i'd lump them all into qol

[modest trellis]

zealot flashbang is worse

assails is ok all things considered

[wraith walrus]

I think I agree with you in principle, however I also know that players on low-end systems literally have less damage feedback than people with higher settings. E.G. I can usually tell the difference by a crusher that is at 5% vs 90% hp. Although, maybe not between 40% and 50% which is where a lot of important breakpoints are

[wraith walrus]

lol you're totally right

what did fs do to it? it used to be alright when I played back in the day

[modest trellis]

it was never that good and now it's super powercrept

[wraith walrus]

kinda like every dlc class and weapon is insanely OP compared to the launch stuff

[deft stump]

I don't clutch that much anyway.

[zealous wing]

no

[wispy bay]

Arby is not that strong to be honest. Not as strong as it was at release.

[deft stump]

I just get traumatised by having to try to pick up ppl at mid havocs.

[wispy bay]

Ganger current strongest build makes weakest team.

[deft stump]

God Dog nerf was the thing.

[marble crater]

Yeah, because you carry and don't need to clutch

[deft stump]

I do not, I just shotcall because I just know when bs happens from the games with Chaos and Syllo.

Also low ping so I can dueling sword dance the melee twin.

[swift stag]

I lump it just cause its co-op game. If I get scolded for using scoreboard then idc if someone can see every loot container, health, enemy, etc they are just blessed by the omnisaiah

[zealous wing]

you can make assail do real goofy things

[modest trellis]

yeah, bottom line is "what are you gonna do about it"

if a mod makes the game more fun for me i will install it

[zealous wing]

also its recharging controllable bullets, even after they've been thrown and you're back to melee

[wraith walrus]

this is actually the same build I was using. I guess I just need to get used to the ranges bc I feel like my knifes are just flying off without hitting anything

[zealous wing]

they go where you look

LMB has 2s flight time, RMB has 2.5s flight time, and will take a more direct path to the specific target if you choose one

RMB also costs 2.5x more peril iirc

[wraith walrus]

I get it now

[zealous wing]

default, LMB costs 10%, RMB 25%

kk

[wraith walrus]

I was trying to build an assail build like I would smiteker but it's not really for that

[zealous wing]

nope, its an extra tool

a supplement rather than a main weapon

[wraith walrus]

what do you run as your ranged weapon?

when assailing

[zealous wing]

depends on the build, but, generally a vraks infauto

ive also got it on my scriers rending trauma

[wraith walrus]

this is what I had

[zealous wing]

surge surge also

[wraith walrus]

i reserve surge for my "lighting everywhere system"

[zealous wing]

but, killfeed

but ye thinking about it now, at this point inferno is the only staff i wouldnt run assail with

that and blazing trauma specifically

everything that wants scriers gets assail more often

(this was also before i switched to assail because of the KF critical peril lock thing)

[exotic cloud]

What’s the best melee for a melee psyker my beloved

[zealous wing]

force greatsword mark 6

[marble crater]

Illisi with gaze and faster melee attack speed is also fun, maybe not great against anything that isn't trash, but fun

[zealous wing]

lmfao

but true

[leaden wind]

I fucking love FGS

My favorite is when I see a teammate getting overwhelmed and just launch a fully charged slash towards them and clear the area 😭

[swift stag]

I use illis cause I'm weird

[deft stump]

But but but...

[quaint lark]

@leaden wind they feel so clean and work like better then any other weapon ive ever used in a game

[zealous wing]

tasty

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-i-can-almost-taste-it-lick-meme-reaction-gif-7709478523414775227

[weary crane]

They need to add 1 billion

[white willow]

fgs dumpstat warp resistance right ?

[modest trellis]

yes

[white willow]

I couldn't upload the picture because I'm new here. thx

[zealous wing]

if you use the gameslantern website you can make stuff there thats build related and post links from it

[white willow]

oh okey

[zealous wing]

weapons, blessings, curio, tree, etc, all the info you may want help with

[white willow]

is charging time affect the damage?

[zealous wing]

no

just how long it takes to charge a full attack

[winged trail]

it can effect damage if you have thrust (a blessing) on a weapon

though thrust is only really used on the ogryn picks iirc

[zealous wing]

charging is related to a staff

as a stat

[winged trail]

oh im a buffoon

[zealous wing]

lil bit

[winged trail]

i thought he meant heavy attack charging whoopsies

[zealous wing]

there is one case where you want charge rate as the dump stat, and one case you absolutely do NOT want charge rate dumped no matter what

charge rate dump: electrokinetic staff specifically for a build we call "surge surge"

never charge dump: on voideSTRIKE staff

otherwise, whatever you have can work

charge rate on strike is a must have, because the poor stave charges so slow even at max

on surge surge, you seldom ever charge an attack so it literally doesnt matter