psyker-class

[royal totem]

And i want all irons removed and replaced with actual sights in this game

[quaint lark]

Wood working i sorta figured out on my own and metal working roommates friend knows a shit ton about

[quaint lark]

You take that back...

[royal totem]

NO. the amount of ppl that babble and shit on real sights and tell you to git gud if you dobt like irons is obscene and deserve some reverse discrimination.

[quaint lark]

Im not saying get good with iron sights, im saying just choose something different is all, well use irons and yall use fancy shit

[royal totem]

A lot of guns haveno choice is the crux of the issue

[wispy bay]

Depending on the type of iron sight, things can be different.

Open sight iron sight like on the AK is pretty easy to change targets.

[potent echo]

Why is +toughness good and why am I loving it

Is the answer 3x toughness curios all this time

[royal totem]

But ppl who like irons just tell u to git gud so i now want them to suffer

[wispy bay]

The right type sight is more precise.

[potent echo]

Toughness haters are like "wow you only lose your toughness in 1.1s instead of 1.0s" but somehow I just feel more survivable

[modest trellis]

Wait there are toughness haters?

[potent echo]

I saw them here before

[royal totem]

I suffered so they should have to too

[plucky flax]

Run 3x stam for maximum attack speed

Skkrrrt skrrrt

[royal totem]

How does stam give more AS

[plucky flax]

Talent on bottom left

[royal totem]

Ah

[potent echo]

Psyker should have attack speed scaling with peril

monkey paws curls
Inverse scaling

[plucky flax]

Can make warp splitting increase both cleave and all speed

[merry meteor]

Psyker should turn into free daemonhost if they explode at their last wound

[royal totem]

LMAO

Liabilities

[open slate]

yo I gotta say I like the telekine sheild over dome

anyone else?

I prefer how it stop elites in thier tracks

[plucky flax]

No one ever

[open slate]

LOL

HAHA

just me then, very epic, I shall be that one guy

[mighty shuttle]

It’s very good in mute rushes

[open slate]

I love how it stops poxbursters,dogs, and mutants from rushing your team

and it comes back super fast

I like using a full support psyker, with smite, and sheilds

[open slate]

https://tenor.com/view/miles-edgworth-genderbent-miles-edgeworth-hand-it-over-hand-me-your-phone-hand-gif-26304050

[fringe harbor]

is there a maelstrom for no man's land

[ripe obsidian]

damage_profile = DamageProfileTemplates.dual_shivs_light_ninja_stabby,

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/bb5b1f83335da302af2034f03a34e2a7f08c9b1d/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/dual_shivs/dual_shivs_p1_m1.lua#L609C1-L609C73

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/bb5b1f83335da302af2034f03a34e2a7f08c9b1d/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/dual_shivs/settings_templates/dual_shivs_damage_profile_templates.lua#L306

[zealous wing]

@weak obsidian

[potent echo]

Ninja stabby 💀

I'll give it 3 more years before we get skibiddi in the game code

[hollow summit]

What blessings for combat knife

[plucky flax]

Uncanny and something. I normally go bleed

[hollow summit]

Actually not very sure how to use it

Im just doing special, stab, repeat on bosses

[potent echo]

Push attack spam

Highest DPS on stationary target

When dodge dancing things are a little different

Special is a huge dps loss though

[royal totem]

i forgot what the special even is lul

[potent echo]

Punch

Don't do it

[royal totem]

oh ok

[potent echo]

[royal totem]

i think like half the specials in this game are kinda dogshit

[hollow summit]

Punch, instantly gives you a full h1

For ogryns they be pretty good

For psykers, questionable

[royal totem]

depends which ogryn weapon

pickaxe is pretty good. but not every wep special is

[hollow summit]

Bully club slap is heavy stagger, cleaver punch is decent

Maul is maul, shield is shield

Dunno about ogryn shovel

[shadow oar]

is greatsword good on scriers build

[verbal thistle]

yes

[pine shore]

depends on mark

on 3 it's your best single target dps actually

on 6 or whatever it's still good for quick access to double single target heavy

[potent echo]

Isn't PA same for both

I forgor

Only use the 6

[pine shore]

I use both

on 6 you want to spam pa obviously

but that costs stamina

and punch gives you 2 single target heavies for gree

on 3 it's actually the best thing you can do for single target

[potent echo]

I remember the 3 looping heavies is all single target

[pine shore]

it's exactly the same on 6

but much slower

for 3 you do punch light punch light

and that's it

for 6 you do punch light heavy punch light heavy

on 6 pa are better then special but cost stamina

[potent echo]

I do remember after the punch it doesn't matter if your hold m1 or not it's the same damage..? Or am I remembering it wrong

[pine shore]

I don't remember cause I never hold m1

[potent echo]

Understandable

[pine shore]

I literally never tried to

I just know that special light is your best dps for 3

[potent echo]

I never played 3 ever since I swapped to 6

[pine shore]

When I play knife, I play 3 on zealot

when I don't play 3, I don't play zealot and use 6 as a dodge stick with uncanny

And never actually use it to kill anything

[potent echo]

How do you clear anything with 3

[pine shore]

pa

[potent echo]

Ah

[pine shore]

It clears everything really well

it has like 6 or 6.5 cleave

lmao

It's great

It's better than ds

and people somehow manage to clear with ds

[potent echo]

"clear"

[pine shore]

well, 3 actually clears

[potent echo]

I meant with ds

[pine shore]

and also 6 doesn't have extra 25% backstab damage

[potent echo]

But I guess anything will eventually clear bruisers and walkers

[pine shore]

so 3 is just 25% extra damage sometimes, you backstab stuff periodically even without shroud

[potent echo]

Maybe I'll try the 3 again

[pine shore]

only on zealot please

[potent echo]

I primarily use knife on my WS DB vet

[pine shore]

I have 0 fucking idea how to make 3 work on anyone else

Party because I don't know how and partly because I don't play vet at all

[potent echo]

Press F to shout

[pine shore]

maybe the fent hobo can use 3 better

I can see them murdering everything by applying 120% uncanny, 16 bleed stacks and 31 tox stacks

sounds painful

[potent echo]

I think things just die

Unless it's a boss

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-yeet-fus-roh-da-gif-19617923

You said shout

So dont give me that malarkey lol

[pine shore]

btw play bleed

do bleed

precog and riposte are for fools only

use bleed

bleed everyone

uncanny flesh tearer

[timber moon]

I love that I take a perk to take advantage of handling elites when blowing up, and I don't blow up 😭

(I am aware of the psyker bug I just thought this was funny)

[ripe obsidian]

Fascinating

I have never seen that

[zealous wing]

play tester?

[ripe obsidian]

Seems likely

[strong gulch]

Y'all still playing?

[ripe obsidian]

For the moment, yeah

I am contract farming

[strong gulch]

can I join?

[zealous wing]

ye

we got a slot

team 100

[strong gulch]

Ye. I saw y'all were full, so I wasn't gonna be a bother.

[zealous wing]

person 4 went to bed

been good vibes honestly

[strong gulch]

I missed games with dom. sad

[ripe obsidian]

I walk forward and press pewpew

[patent jacinth]

No, thats mechanicus moribund

Thats probably the beta frame

[strong gulch]

I played beta and don't have that frame.

[plucky flax]

Thats a benis

[granite stratus]

valk and balls

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-velvet-buzzsaw-wtf-is-that-what-is-that-what-you-doing-gif-14634292

[potent echo]

I tried fresh tearer on dual shivs and it indeed feels better

[pine shore]

I was talking about knife 3

but ok

[plucky flax]

No crit on shivs

[pale prairie]

like they cant?

[ripe obsidian]

Crit on shivs is very strong

[wraith sphinx]

You're atoning too hard

[quaint lark]

Idk what the event it but brother wtf is that number?!?!?!

[quaint burrow]

is it just me or did the patch make the game more difficult?
I used to do Aurics just fine, sure a run here or there went sideways and failed, but now even non-event runs push my face in more often than not it's almost embarrassing

[ripe obsidian]

What parts feel more difficult?

This is a genuine question, to be clear.

[tulip kettle]

Specials and player hit boxes do be broken rn

[strong gulch]

it's a dom

hi

[tulip kettle]

I have a few clips from the past few days of me pushing dogs and them just grabbing me anyway

[quaint burrow]

hard to pinpoint it exactly, perhaps I'm just a bit rusty..
def losing more than I'm used to tho...
could 100% just be a skill issue too, that's why I'm second guessing

[quaint burrow]

bursters sure as heck are broken

[tulip kettle]

Hey hey :) I'm literally in a meeting rn wishing I could actually play the game 😂

[ripe obsidian]

The game is buggier than usual right now

[zealous wing]

if youre losing runs to dogs, trappers, bursters, it makes sense with the current bugs, if its things appearing out of nowhere, also makes sense, but if its things like bruisers, poxxers, etc is a little less likely

[strong gulch]

I know that if I haven't played in awhile or if I'm not feeling to great that the game feels super fast and it's hard to manage.

[ripe obsidian]

Overheads are also hitting a larger area

[zealous wing]

we just finished auric marathon

[ripe obsidian]

And gunners are locking on faster than they turn

[zealous wing]

like full radius around the crusher large

[zealous wing]

snipers too

[ripe obsidian]

I have had more than one gunner shoot me at a 90° angle

[quaint burrow]

nah I don't even count the few times where I get boxed in and obliterated by trashmobs, because that's just a "oh, shouldn't have moved there" 😅

[zealous wing]

valid

[deft stump]

They did make aurics closer to havocs.

[zealous wing]

that was a while ago tho

like a month and a half or something

[quaint burrow]

sigh

guess it's time to git gud then

[zealous wing]

but, there are indeed bugs

a great many

so, just have fun with it honestly, get in the goof off mindset and its more tolerable

tis a game after all

[quaint burrow]

yeah, but goofing off now has to be done in damnation, can't do it in auric anymore

[zealous wing]

nahhh

[tulip kettle]

It's not about the winning

[oblique thorn]

What's the dump stat on staffs all of the stats seem good

[tulip kettle]

It's the heretics we slayed along the way

[zealous wing]

warp resistance

well

[tulip kettle]

Generally warp Res except specific cases

[deft stump]

Warp resist, blast radius for strike.

[zealous wing]

except voidstrike, and ye specific niche builds

[quaint burrow]

800k, slowly working towards the Pox Breaker...

[deft stump]

Asian mindset is all about winning. No point in losing.

[tulip kettle]

Ooo you can race hex

[tulip kettle]

That's not healthy or what the game is about though

Prioritising winning over having fun with friends is a way to have a bad time

[quaint burrow]

oh I'm still having fun, that's not the problem

[ripe obsidian]

Castigator's shotgun arby is one of the sillier things I have done lately

I was an ammo vacuum

[zealous wing]

we can genuinely say its very likely, if you're used to aurics, that its not always a ending youre runs currently

[quaint burrow]

being smacked by a melee trashmob even tho I was sliding and got hit from like 20 feet away IS a little annoying tho...

[quaint burrow]

[deft stump]

Well, I get abandoned by people I considered friends so.

[zealous wing]

what do you main

[quaint burrow]

I played Ogryn until Arbites dropped, then played Arbites almost exclusively.
back to Psyker now, I like gogo gadget head explode

this saved me more often than I'd like to admit

[ripe obsidian]

Ah, you are one of my subjects then

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-king-didnt-vote-gif-8051023

[deft stump]

Playing pubs is all about winning.

[deft stump]

Playing with ping? Is normal. Is why I don't wanna play aurics on ganger but need wins for penances.

[strong gulch]

This patch most spyker things can't overload you. Funny bug.

[zealous wing]

swords, voidblast, voidstrike, and blitz cant blow you up rn

[quaint burrow]

my flamestaff didn't get the memo then

[zealous wing]

inferno and ek tho 100% can

[quaint burrow]

yup 😄

[strong gulch]

inferno and EK can't read

[zealous wing]

actually i should test if DS parry can overload rn

[quaint burrow]

the flamestaff is weird.. like I get how you can absolutely obliterate hordes and gunners, but a pack of crushers is still a massive problem..
especially since they often tend to stagger their overheads in just the right way you cannot dodge all of them..

[zealous wing]

parry safe

[quaint burrow]

plus I never feel mobile enough, but that probably is just a skill issue

[zealous wing]

the lag thing happens but no overload

[strong gulch]

If you time the dodges and have room to move it's fine.

But can always inferno uncanny abuse crushers to death.

[strong gulch]

Dang. Then I was safe to keep parrying the DH. heck

[zealous wing]

i have a clip for this

[quaint burrow]

yeah I just need to actually remember I can do that

[zealous wing]

just practice honestly

[quaint burrow]

ye

[zealous wing]

ive made it a habit to try doing it even when theres only like 3 crushers

that way when rot comes back i'd have the know-how

[tulip kettle]

I'm sorry you feel that way. People are complex and hard to understand at times, I'm sure your friends aren't regularly abandoning you, though it may feel that way at times. There's this idea called "locus of control", I don't know if you know about it. It helps me to be mindful about it sometimes.

[ripe obsidian]

Hyper-Critical is dumb.

The actual attack did 2108 damage.

The 1593 is the instakill.

[deft stump]

Well, considering I just get straight ghosted while they all went to play... Eh, is what it is. None of them even bothered to say anything.

[ripe obsidian]

I also just got a 3700+ damage crit with hyper-violence. So instakilled mauler without hyper-crit.

3889, per scoreboard

hehehehehe

[wispy bay]

Run both hyper at the time

Becoming hyper lethal

[ripe obsidian]

I do

This is my current build

[wispy bay]

Increased frenzy timer hmm, I think the frenzy stacks up so fast that it reset the duration before it even runs out.

[deft stump]

Then your greatest enemy shows up. A lift/airlock.

[zealous wing]

the bane of all stacks

[deft stump]

More a lift, since set timing.

[ripe obsidian]

Better to have it and not need it

Especially against bosses

[wispy bay]

If you are concerned about boss, then why even have the killing blow one?

4 of 5 frenzy keystones are side upgrade, not actual upgrade imo.

[ripe obsidian]

Because the killing blow one means 2 elites charge it

It charges way faster

These options charge it faster and keep it up longer

[deft stump]

Unless you are me and my elite kills get ksed all the time due to 300+ ping.

[ripe obsidian]

:<

[deft stump]

Rather neither of the nodes.

Even my horde kills get stolen when I'm on my vet.

[zealous wing]

crystalline will

[zealous wing]

you might want to get clips of testing ready when you can

like me vs the "toxin dot doesnt work with damage increase perks" misinformation being spread

[hollow summit]

How does the ek build work

Do I just ek m2 spam and shriek whenever its off cd?

[acoustic jacinth]

Depends on m2 or m1 ek

Either flurry + nexus for m2 spam with shriek

Or SG + DD for finesse

M1

[hollow summit]

What's the point of m1 ek?

Doesn't all staffs work

[lusty compass]

Hello. I am very new to darktide and I am learning the Psyker class on my own since my friend is busy lately. Thought i would give being on a server a chance.

[wispy bay]

It has the highest crit rate of all staves, so it triggers surge more often.

[hollow summit]

I see

[wispy bay]

Surge is basically double damage on crit.

[acoustic jacinth]

The scaling is considerably better as dein said

You can find both builds in pins

[zealous wing]

hello

[wispy bay]

Welcome, you can check out the pin messages for general builds.

[zealous wing]

we can also just answer any direct questions

[lusty compass]

thank you, I have tried a few things I feel like I keep getting "muddy" with it on my own x.x

[zealous wing]

fair enough, honestly. psyker has a lot to work with, many routes to take

more so than other classes i feel

well, except maybe hivescum at the moment))

too early to tell for scum

[lusty compass]

yea but i enjoy the style, I wanna go Assail

I like the dagger dagger dagger feeling

[zealous wing]

noice

finally

[wispy bay]

Psyker is very mechanical skill demanding, which is one thing people can't really help, but you can keep playing to improve.

[wispy bay]

Nah, ganger routes are very straight forward.

[zealous wing]

assail is great, my favourite blitz, most overall utility

it will carry you all the way to lvl30, and is viable even up in the highest difficulties of the game

[lusty compass]

I have been enjoy it! I still kind of forget about my Peril x.x

I am better at it but it happens more than I like still

[zealous wing]

a common occurrence, honestly

[wispy bay]

It happens to the best of us.

Even the guys who can solo H40 sometimes forget...

[zealous wing]

i explode about once a mission even 2k hours in (on inferno, a staff im not used to, but still, same key mechanic i should know by now)

it just gets away sometimes

[lusty compass]

well makes me feel better knowing its not like something silly

[zealous wing]

ye youre fine lol, its so common, i actively keep an eye on all psykers i play with to look for the "im exploding" animation to be there for them lmao

[lusty compass]

also i was so nervous joining and talking in a server like this. so glad you are actually pretty nice

[zealous wing]

we try

if you had said smite tho, who knows what wouldve happened

[wispy bay]

For Assail, people usually go with SG + Unbound, which allow you to use assail without exploding while getting the maximum amount of damage.

[lusty compass]

lol! I have been told to not go smite already by my friend

[zealous wing]

well tbh first question is, are you max level yet

also, good on them

[wispy bay]

They are good friends.

[lusty compass]

no im 25 atm

[zealous wing]

smite is an ok tool but it needs to be learned when you already know how psyker works, if you do have a desire for it, otherwise, bad habits

[lusty compass]

noted ty

[zealous wing]

im only now actually trying to learn it in the psykanium and im just.... "WHY ARENT THEY DEAD YET"

(youll understand soon enough)

[lusty compass]

ah ok i was reading it slowly XD i felt my brain not connecting

[zealous wing]

ah, sorry, am sleep deprived so the words might not line up well

[lusty compass]

nono its ok! what time is for you if that is ok to ask

[zealous wing]

1235

just after noon

[lusty compass]

ahh ok one hour ahead of me

[zealous wing]

anyway, second question, what difficulty are you currently most comfortable at?

(no shame ever btw)

[lusty compass]

umm malice I think its called

oh question as well, sorry not class related but server, what are all the numbers next to everyones name?

[zealous wing]

they are our fatshark codes, for the ingame social tab

[lusty compass]

oooh!

[wispy bay]

Fatshark code, so you can invite people quickly.

[zealous wing]

makes it easy to invite or request to join a game, yes

[lusty compass]

thats fair i only have one friend and they found me on discord so I have never seen it

i mean steam

im honestly too scared to try the level higher than malice

[zealous wing]

ive been there

genuinely, tho, im not gonna do to you what was done to me

(i was pulled into an auric maelstrom)

[lusty compass]

what does this mean!!

[zealous wing]

uh

chaos

[lusty compass]

im so very new to this im so sorry

[wispy bay]

Auric is the highest difficulty (non havoc)

[zealous wing]

it sounds every bit as terrifying as it was

[wispy bay]

Maelstrom = special conditions.

[lusty compass]

ahhh okok

[wispy bay]

You can try Malice Maelstrom to prepare for the next difficulty.

[zealous wing]

heresy

malice has no mael

[lusty compass]

I will have to look into that

maybe just for the experience of it before i get thrown into what seems like my death landing

[hollow summit]

Just dying is fine

[zealous wing]

honestly heresy can be a struggle if youre not familiar with the mechanics of the game, and can also be pain if your build isnt cohesive, but the important part is fun, then you also learn more faster than if youre not having fun

and ye, dying is also normal

[wispy bay]

Thing might have changed? I remember Malice maels back in the day. Oh well.

[lusty compass]

oh i always have fun no worries there lol. I just start feeling bad for random people that have to deal with me XD

[zealous wing]

dont worry about it at all

theres penances for rescues and revives if that helps

[lusty compass]

well, if anyone needs those >.> i got you

[zealous wing]

important note before i forget, toxic people are uncommon, but not impossible to come across. simply block them in the social menu, and move on. they are only worth THAT amount of time.

there's been times people played for hundreds of hours and didnt know there was a block function

OH, and the starter ability (and shriek, and scriers gaze), when activated, stops you from overloading, just in case you didnt know yet

[lusty compass]

thats good to know, I stopped playing alone very much because the first time i did i got yelled at x.x

[zealous wing]

same happened to me

[lusty compass]

so I decided to just wait when my friend can be on lol

but they are too busy so figured I would try on my own x.x

[wispy bay]

What loser yelling at people in Malice, lol...

[zealous wing]

if you want a buddy anytime im around i gotchu

ill bully them back

(with votekick)

or barrels

depending

[lusty compass]

lol. well is it presumptuous to ask if you wanna play now?

[wispy bay]

EU or NA?

[zealous wing]

not at all. i am a sleep deprived goober so malice/heresy is probably right around my capacity

[lusty compass]

I am EU

[wispy bay]

Hexis, up you go.

[zealous wing]

just need a few minutes IRL and i can dive right in

[lusty compass]

okies~ thank you so mcuh!

[zealous wing]

while i do that, let me know if you want "murder the horde stuff", "murder the monster stuff" or, generalist

[wispy bay]

There is heavy snow over here at the moment, it always make my connect to EU a little wonky...

[lusty compass]

umm, I vibe with any really, I have been doing just random missions to learn them.

[lusty compass]

aww i was gonna say you could if you wanted to as well. my friend is NA so i play on NA alot

[zealous wing]

we could do na east, though i hear its had some troubles

but no harm in trying

[wispy bay]

Sure

[zealous wing]

i shall bring....

gunker

[lusty compass]

I will bring my winning personality?

[zealous wing]

indeed

copy the numbers in my nickname, and head over to the social tab in esc menu, then press e, then you can paste there

[lusty compass]

done

[wispy bay]

I usually don't play in the morning (well, I'm NA east), but my schedule for the pass week leaves me a nocturnal person.

[zealous wing]

lmao i crashed

[wispy bay]

lol

[lusty compass]

welp XD

[zealous wing]

ill be back shortly

[wispy bay]

We will keep going

[zealous wing]

dein gotchu im sure

[summer prairie]

Someone already made a video about this, but poxwalker hitboxes are so jank (groaners on the right)

[plucky flax]

You're just fat

Too much Finnish reindeer

[weary crane]

Yeah it's super annoying when you're trying to dodge and there is these mfs around you

[tulip kettle]

doesnt ogryn ignore smaller enemies on dodging? simply play ogryn i guess

[iron flame]

💀 does game have some kind of voice line for missing a lot of shots or something ? My psyker start saying stuff about aiming is off and need to spend some time in the meat grinder

[wispy bay]

That's when you hit allies.

Without hitting the enemies...

[hollow summit]

lel

[jade karma]

how do i make the most out of the force greatsword

[marble crater]

Play it with Scrier’s Gaze and Disrupt Destiny, run around and kill everyone

[tulip kettle]

use mk6, warp res dump, unstable power and then either shred/wrath/riposte. carapace + unyielding/maniac

[zealous wing]

clutching auric mael not on my bucket list, but

we died in the end anyway

ROUND TWO!

here we go!

[tulip kettle]

hex be gaming?

hmmmmmmmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-why-shouldnt-i-lotr-bilbo-bilbo-why-shouldnt-i-why-shouldnt-i-lord-of-the-rings-gif-17096479

[quartz barn]

imagine not being able to clutch am smh

[zealous wing]

i do be sleep deprived and was surprisingly calm

it was special waves, so, flamers appearing in front of me was uh

amusing

[jade karma]

what ranged weapon do i usually go for when greatsword maxxing

[tulip kettle]

plenty of choices. guns work - laspistol, vraks IAG, recon las MK12

Ek staff of voidstrike also good

depends exactly what you want

theres a bunch of good builds by six in the pins. check out various gunker/ scriers gaze builds

[zealous wing]

get your coffee faster

[jade karma]

im stll not sure where to go with psyker, i could be horde clearing but what about specialists sniping

[jovial juniper]

Brain Burst
Assail

Walking up to them and stabbing

[jade karma]

wait how is this possible https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f6c68b3-fb9c-4258-8edd-96e75b088f97/brain-burst-build

why are the lines not connected

[jovial juniper]

Recent change

It is invalid tree so it'll never be in-game

[jade karma]

how does kinetic flayer work

[plucky flax]

is pingmonitor broken for you guys?

It used to work but suddenly not worky today.

[jovial juniper]

It automatically procs brain burst on a single target when you damage then

15 seconds cool down

[jade karma]

oh cool

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah
Only on important targets

[jade karma]

oh so it wont accidentally get wasted on infantry right

[plucky flax]

It's a load order issue with another mod.

[jade karma]

why cant i post screenshots

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

And I think they removed the interaction with bursters

Because it would accidentally explode those in your face

[tulip kettle]

yeah functioning for me

[jovial juniper]

Fully fully white pretty much inexistent

[tulip kettle]

need image perms

just talk mor and you will get them

[jovial juniper]

Because Fatshark man

[jade karma]

give psyker bolt gun not just bolt pistol

is blaze force sword good for weakpoints

[hollow summit]

assassin swiftstrike

what do you think

[jovial juniper]

Ok that's a confusing question because all weapons are good for weak points

[hollow summit]

oh wait i read combat knife for some reason

well here's the thing right

blaze force sword attacks are 80% assassin

make of that what you will

[rotund dagger]

This event can suck some off

make me fight a daemonhost and then push me into ANOTHER daemonhost

[hollow summit]

Eh... but the summoned bosses are kinda weak?

Might be anecdote

[royal totem]

They arent. Summoned demonhosts same but give no corruption and will murder whole team

[hollow summit]

I see

Welp rip I guess

Then again if you die the other daemonhost stops bothering you

[royal totem]

Ive been using dclaw

[zealous wing]

ty for games dom

[jade karma]

oh ok i get to use chainsword

[zealous wing]

OH NO

ITS THE JONKLER

HIDE YOUR STIMS

[wispy bay]

Damn gangers have some good skin care.

[halcyon obsidian]

just the payed babyoilskin cosmetic

[keen pelican]

Adeptus Didius bring forth the Oilskin relics

[celest valve]

it kinda differs, precision varies greatly which determines weak point damage

even among attacks, stabs tend to do the most precision damage

[jade karma]

what are the differences between the three voidstaffs

[radiant frigate]

there are 4 and the differences are considerably

we got The Flamer, The Zappy, The Bowling Ball and The Stomp

flamer is close range infinite cleave horde melter and okay boss damage

zappy is single target but can do a lot of work with psyker talents and really enables shriek

bowling ball is like vet plasma but cool

stomp is best used with crit/soulblaze and/or shriek and is in a similar boat as the flamer but more localized and actually has some control (throws enemy ogryns to the ground on full charge)

[royal totem]

so yesterday night

i got a new monitor

and lemme tell you

i can finally see heretics hiding in the dark spots of the maps

[marble crater]

[lapis violet]

i love my build i love being immune to ranged attacks for 70% of the match

[median cipher]

is the overload aspect bugged or am i missing smth

went 100% a few times and no death

[royal totem]

its bugged for every staff except inferno

and

EK RMB

[median cipher]

uh

force sword?

i spammed the special and no boom

[jovial juniper]

Yes bugged for everything but inferno staff and electric staff rmb

[vernal temple]

At least it's not another "Crackhead" or whatever

speaking of "original" names. saw an arbitrator today named NotAnotherDredd

[sturdy reef]

I named my Arbitrator Von Valancius and my dog Abelard

Ive only ever seen one other dog named Abelard 🙁

[vernal temple]

Mine is called Holden

[wraith sphinx]

my arbitrator and dog are named after my og darkest dungeon party

[sturdy reef]

I just like Rogue Trader

[wraith sphinx]

my dog is named reynauld

[vernal temple]

I've only seen one other person name theirs Holden and it kinda saddens me

because Blood Meridian is amazing

[sturdy reef]

Only a few ppl have gotten the reference when I play arby

[vernal temple]

I called my hive scum Ea-nasir and every now and then people tell me about their shipments of shitty copper

[sturdy reef]

Lmao

[wraith sphinx]

none of my character names are anything special but they turned out to be basically unique, nobody else I've ever encountered had named their chars anything similar

[modest perch]

it is however im still so traumatized from getting assigned catcher in the rye TWICE that i associate the name with that little dweeb

[tough obsidian]

siblings i will not lie
the class feels a tad weak imo right now
not sure if its skill issue or my points being bad but
overall my staves and swords dont feel like they do as much damage

and i feel even more squishy?

[modest perch]

its possible they fucked something up

[vernal temple]

also somehow when you spam primary attack on EK/Trauma/Voidstrike you don't pop even after reaching 100%

can just spam away the entire mission at max peril

FS definitely broke something

[tough obsidian]

so thats not just me?

[vernal temple]

nope

[tough obsidian]

okay i was like
"im not THIS bad am i??"

[vernal temple]

purgatus is unafected, the other 3 staves allow you infinite LMB spam

as for if I'm feeling weaker since last hotfix? not really?

ran a few aurics today, seemed business as usual, just kept myself a bit further away from bursters and barrels

[ripe obsidian]

Hard disagree with that. Hyper-crit means I can one-bop a mauler easily on a crit. Hyper-violence means my LMB can hack through hordes with ease. They aren't really meant for the same enemies imo. Like, what's better, killing a mauler in 1 hit but not getting overkill, or 2 hits and getting some overkill?

[acoustic jacinth]

As somebody who has absolutely no idea about hs, six has a solid point here yes

[gray juniper]

I have a question @jovial juniper

[jovial juniper]

Lemme see if I can answer

[gray juniper]

Ty ty

@jovial juniper so in rogue trader chapter 2… I have these side quests about king of distortion and explorator base. To complete the events I need 2 fuel and 1 holy relics cargo. Can I move on to chapter 3 or will these events become inaccessible?

Google and Reddit have zero answers on this

[jovial juniper]

The explorator void station on Mu-rho?

[gray juniper]

Yes

[jovial juniper]

Yes you can come back any time

[gray juniper]

Phew. Nice

Huge Ty

I reloaded an older save to get more insight points and forgot I needed cargo for those before selling

[jovial juniper]

I'm just not so sure about the king of distortion but if it's on your journal then high chances you can come back later

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s good enough for me

If you can come back to the explorator station then odds are very good for the other

[grim tree]

any good videos to reference/watch to learn scriers type gameplay for havoc?

[gray juniper]

Agents

He’s unsanctionedpsyker on YouTube

Any ones that are good will show them using assail during their melee

[strong gulch]

=================================

[spice oar]

4k AQUILLAS FOR 4 QUID?

QUICKEST PURCHASE OF MY LIFE

[ripe obsidian]

Aye

[ripe obsidian]

I will admit that the two talents do technically work against each other. If one works, the other doesn't. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.

If you crit, an enemy dies. If you don't, you probably get overkill to kill the next enemy faster. You won't get both on every kill, sure, but where you don't get one you probably get the other

[acoustic jacinth]

i'm joking, i genuinely have no clue about the class because it is not my thing. though from what i read, it just sounds like these two work to fill the gaps in each-other, for when one's condition is not fulfilled

if that's your vision

[spice oar]

Is anyone else’s psyker gameplay incredibly buggy performance and gameplay wise?

[fierce crest]

ur gonna need to be more specific

this is a fatshark game

[radiant frigate]

the copper cartel...

[spice oar]

Like just a lot of lagging and screen tearing

And mechanics wise you can’t blow up at 100% peril

[fierce crest]

peril is known yeah

havent noticed performance diff this patch

[jovial juniper]

It's the peril bug

It's lagging people

[radiant frigate]

getting too high on peril starts to distort time

lore accurate

[cedar delta]

game wants you to explode but you cant

[sudden fiber]

Hello guys is it worth to keep a blaze force greatsword that has 75% finesse and 65% warp resistence or should i keep grinding?

[marble crater]

Are you a new player? It's fine
Are you an old player with a lot of resources and this would drive you crazy? Roll more

[sudden fiber]

Yessir new player just got the game 2 weeks

[tulip kettle]

SIX FIGURES BABEEEE

LESSSGGGOOOOOO

[sudden fiber]

I saw this Psyker melee build and wanted to try it, idk if i´ts meta but it looks cool

[tulip kettle]

if its scriers gaze and DD with an FGS it will be good

[sudden fiber]

Oh yeah i think that´s the one, i wanted to try zealot before since i come from vermintide but i dunno having a magic sword looks way better

[tulip kettle]

zealot gets bonks like the above

[sudden fiber]

And can make a psychich slash with the greatsword so extra points

[tulip kettle]

but is in general worse than psyker at being melee death machine

[marble crater]

Ironic

[strong gulch]

@marble crater come get barreled

[tulip kettle]

i second this

[marble crater]

Later, I'm eating dinner right now and then need to walk my dog

[summer prairie]

Seems like there used to be/were plans for a Desperado subnode that disables minion collisions during dodges and sprints ("broker_focus_noclip"). Surely not op

[jovial juniper]

Ah yes

Run the entire map unbothered

The node

Paired with the slide immune to melee

Speedrunners wet dream

[ripe obsidian]

If you cast at 100% peril when you should blow up, your game freezes for a bit

[summer prairie]

the corruption immunity from supplies makes you quite a bit tankier in havoc, spamming min duration stimms has quite significant utility even with no blight spreads

[jovial juniper]

Lemme get this right

Fatshark brought goo back (Blight Spreads)

Then introduced an ability with AoE corruption immunity

On the paid class

This is some propaganda type shit

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, they did Rotten Armor when they released Arby

Same thing.

75% tox gas reduction and crazy CC/DR to fight crushers

[jovial juniper]

Yeah because they can't 1 shot crushers

Propaganda failed

Imagine not 1 shotting crushers in the big 25

Fuck ass mid class

[royal totem]

anybody want to play 1-2 rounds with me?

[spice oar]

Oh so they are linked? splendid

whole class unplayable 😭

[jovial juniper]

Yes it is

The funny part

Is that it also affects plasma gun

Shoot it and it drops frames

Can't explode on charged shots

[ripe obsidian]

The God-Emperor blesses us

[zealous wing]

blitz's dont overload
most staves dont overload
swords dont overload
vet gun doesnt overload

[spice oar]

ive found that surge is fine on left click, not on right

[zealous wing]

now is a really bad time to learn psyker, in the middle of the best time to learn psyker

[spice oar]

not that ill be playing my fav class till they fix it

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/potato-glados-portal-portal2-gif-18325949

Me and the game rn

[zealous wing]

only stave i can keep habit on and not have it feel weird is inferno

somehow the only staff with no "overload failure"

if i had to guess somehow projectile related

rmb ek overloads, lmb doesnt

[spice oar]

does the lag affect playing without a staff?

like if im at high peril?

what a strange ass bug

[zealous wing]

seriously

[spice oar]

like what could possibly be causing it is what i wanna know

what is the computer being told

[zealous wing]

well, it started with the recent patch, so, its something in there

[leaden thunder]

they added like a debugging logger or sometihng

to plasma and psyker for some reason

[zealous wing]

but its not for everything psyker

[jovial juniper]

Yeah and overheat broke

So when you reach 100%

It spams with the debugging thing

Might be what is actually producing the frame drops

[zealous wing]

it probably is

[marble crater]

@strong gulch I'm ready to boot the game

Forgot laundry

[ripe obsidian]

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is no laundry.

[royal totem]

just disposable shirts?

[strong gulch]

I'm not ready anymore. 😭

Am sorry.

Powder shower.
https://youtu.be/XUTqj82daro

[frosty cape]

What do good builds look like for Psyker?

I didn't know if the pinned was still up to date

[marble crater]

Maybe tomorrow

[marble crater]

Like the pinned ones, they are up to date

[frosty cape]

Thank youuu

[marble crater]

The not exploding bug is stupid, it's not even a bug that's beneficial, because of muscle memory

[strong gulch]

Ye

[strong gulch]

It's actively messing me up

[spice oar]

It’s lagging my game so much I can’t play the class

Shame too because I just got the Aquila bundle and was gonna buy some cosmetics

[deft stump]

Sadly.

[spice oar]

Knowing life it’ll take ages for a patch too

[marble crater]

I had to remind myself halfway through the mission that the bug is even a thing on my way to extract I did spam void blasts on the ground though

[ripe obsidian]

Don't let Fatshark trick you into thinking beauty must be bought. You look great just the way you are.

[marble crater]

That's true, if you are an Arby

[deft stump]

The coat though.

[marble crater]

Which one? Oh wait, Arby only has that one...

[deft stump]

Also, WTF Discord, double tap message to react with a stare?

[marble crater]

Karien, did you ever stare at yourself in the mirror as much as you stare at people in Discord?

[deft stump]

No point, I know how ugly I am to the point I just get mocked about it.

[marble crater]

You really need to be kinder to yourself

[deft stump]

Is just the truth when your mom even tells you it.

Like I said, am a 3/10 at best here.

[marble crater]

All the more reason that you are kind to yourself, insulting yourself is not helpful. You don't have to stand in front of the mirror and tell yourself how awesome you are, just don't talk shit about yourself

[cedar delta]

all you gotta say is it iz wat it iz

[deft stump]

Is it really talking shit when it's just the truth?

[deft stump]

I mean, it is what it is.

[ripe obsidian]

30/10 at minimum

[deft stump]

You seem to be bad at Mathing.

[ripe obsidian]

I am the best at math

[marble crater]

Well yea something being true doesn't mean you have to say it.
You know what we call people who are mean and hide behind "I'm just telling the truth" or "I am just being blunt"? We call them assholes
Anyway, try to be kinder to yourself, because there really is no benefit to you insulting yourself.

[strong gulch]

People constantly calling you ugly or unattractive is gross.

I am not gonna say "no you're not ugly" or something like that because beauty varies a lot, but "pretty privilege" is very much a thing. Not having it has real impact. Even more so when you're seen as not "buying in" or trying hard enough to fit beauty standards.

I agree that ripping yourself apart doesn't help.
I also don't want to take away from any lived experience tho.

[deft stump]

I guess keeping it to myself works.

[marble crater]

Not the point I was going for

[deft stump]

I know, only the most desperate will even be okay.

[royal totem]

Insulting myself is good.

[spice oar]

Oh they’ve tricked like 30 quid all together out of me it’s alright

My psyker must look good after all

[marble crater]

I don't think you being mean to yourself bothers anyone outside of the fact that you are mean to yourself.
The issue isn't that you type it here, the issue is that you are being mean to yourself in the first place

[gray juniper]

What’s beautiful does have a wider breadth than most people believe imo

It’s not subjective or objective but in ways both

[deft stump]

Is just, normal. Still wonder if my existence is even worth... would save ppl much time if I weren't around and such.

[deft stump]

Because it's just what everyone else offline says.

[marble crater]

Who will carry, if you are not around?

[deft stump]

I'm at best like a pug. Skrunkly.

[gray juniper]

She may have authority in your life buts it’s upsetting that your mom would say that

[deft stump]

You?

[deft stump]

Not just her.

[royal totem]

I dont wonder that. Becuz i already know.

[marble crater]

When? I played like 2-3 missions this week

[gray juniper]

That’s a true shame honestly

[marble crater]

2 of those today

[deft stump]

Thus, I know it. I just try to cover it up.

[deft stump]

Still can carry 2-3 games.

[marble crater]

It was auric, anyone can carry auric

[deft stump]

Is just, you know the closer someone is, the more it hurts?

[deft stump]

Not me. Especially not on Ganger.

[royal totem]

see, i already know im worthless garbage. People shouldnt try to befriend people. I only hurt them.

[deft stump]

Is like a wet tissue in a wind tunnel trying to not be shredded.

[gray juniper]

Yea and that’s why it’s wrong. That she is your mother, it’s rough to hear that one would say that to their child

No parent is lacking awareness to say that not knowing it hurts

[deft stump]

I wonder was well... My brain sees things in a way that indirectly ends up in pain for both.

[gray juniper]

I really believe anyone can see their own value, worth and purpose. I’ve been depressed and self critical before. It’s about shifting your perspective

[deft stump]

I'm just used to it. I'm not rich, not 9/10 beauty to capture a rich person, not beloved by the world. Just a little nobody who is worthless.

[gray juniper]

I mean I’m just as worthless as you if we’re being objective here

[deft stump]

If you count being bad as it, sure.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-second-child-there-are-two-of-them-getting-out-of-hand-gif-16342964

[gray juniper]

Karien you can’t be real saying something that implies you only have bad qualities or bad things about you. That’s completely absurd

[strong gulch]

That is objectively wrong. Can't speak to the beauty part, but the "worthless" part is objectively wrong. You can have that thought filling your mind, but it's false.

I ain't gonna argue on it either.

[pine tundra]

If you join a malestrom and the game doesnt give you a 4th member all match....it should not count against Auric Storm Survivor Achievement if your team wipes

This is the third time I lose out on getting that title due to the games BS matchingmaking

[gray juniper]

You know what’s truly ugly? Someone that’s obviously pretty in a conventionally agreed way but terrible to others. Those are the truly hideous to me

[deft stump]

It can be, if anything 'good' is just average, you know?

[deft stump]

You can be ulgy and terrible, maybe I am to some as well that way.

[gray juniper]

@deft stump that’s a perspective trap in my experience. Average is a relevancy issue. There’s billions of people alive. Should we concern ourselves with a competitive comparison abstract imagined strangers or those we come across? Or should we value the standing we have with those that treat us dignified and share important relations with? I definitely believe it’s the second

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/well-that's-too-damn-bad-holes-too-bad-oh-well-suck-it-up-gif-14703423262202948839

[marble crater]

Comparison is the thief of joy

[gray juniper]

Some people genuinely are yes, but it takes an extreme ugliness of the soul for that to be true. Karien you’re far from ugly

[deft stump]

Is just Asian mindset.

Winning is important, being number 1 is important.

[gray juniper]

I notice there’s a lot of depression and angst in Asian cultures because of some of these practices

[marble crater]

Being happy is more important

[deft stump]

Might as well die if otherwise. Then again, it is what people tell me to.

[gray juniper]

So true king

[deft stump]

Go take a swim in the ocean and be less of a burden.

[gray juniper]

This is literally why suicide is so high in the east. It’s tragic man

[deft stump]

Need money for it.

[strong gulch]

Beauty = worth is also such a treacherous pipeline too. It slips so quickly into many isms and bigotry then oh look it's full on eugenics.

[deft stump]

Well, materialistic happiness.

[cold ivy]

pretty much every human trait is on a bell curve thanks to law of large numbers, which means for any trait 50% of the global population is below average

and given how many traits there are, each person is pretty much guaranteed to be below average in a lot of them

[gray juniper]

Karien these things are pervasive and invasive thoughts. You have to acknowledge them as that and mentally combat them

[gray juniper]

More true than you think

[cold ivy]

but generally speaking there will also be traits where any individual is above average - it's just that society places undue importance on some of them

[royal totem]

see, i'm painfully average. i'm just a heresy player

[marble crater]

Depends, up to a point sure or for some base level of happy. Not like that would help much in your case I imagine, I doubt you will suddenly stop being mean to yourself just because you are rich

[royal totem]

actually below

bottom 10%

[west spire]

Tried to work with her on this.

[gray juniper]

Realize a lot of things people say in passing are subconsciously eugenic minded. When you realize a mindset is coming from a negative/evil place, it’s easier to dismiss

[deft stump]

How about being below average on everything?

[marble crater]

Have you tried being a better player?

[royal totem]

i tried but i can't do that

[cold ivy]

in that hypothetical case, you'd be above average in the "number of traits below average" trait

[deft stump]

I'm the bottom barrel heresy player.

[royal totem]

i die in heresy

[cold ivy]

sort of like that one racehorse who never won a race but was loved by all of japan

[cedar delta]

i also die in heresy

[royal totem]

haru urara or something?

[woven patrol]

I'm a smight enthusiast, and if I can get married there's hope for humanity.

[cedar delta]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-gif-10891002798654383890

[cold ivy]

ye

[west spire]

i die on uprising.

thus the name

[royal totem]

i die on sedition

[deft stump]

Isn't that just Bad bad?

[gray juniper]

@deft stump do you have any respectful friends around you in your life?

[cold ivy]

why is it bad?

or rather, why is anything bad?

how do you define good/bad

[deft stump]

Does vidya game chars count?

[west spire]

do i count?

[deft stump]

Or puppo?

[cold ivy]

a lot of people default to "good or bad is whatever society thinks is good/bad"

[long wharf]

this is the single worst response you could have given

[deft stump]

Well, I'm assuming he means offline.

[cold ivy]

but that's not always true

[gray juniper]

I’d say yea why not. I know you’re looked at very favorably by all of us here too

[cold ivy]

imagine living in the antebellum south where slavery was considered a good thing by society at the time

[royal totem]

my stuffies are most of my closest friends

[deft stump]

Being bad at everything is bad bad.

[cold ivy]

are you bad at everything?

like, in every measurable metric?

[marble crater]

She is not, so this conversation is pointless

[deft stump]

To some degree, yes.

[strong gulch]

Performance doesn't = worth either.

[deft stump]

Look. We all know I get carried. Chaos just lies about it.

[strong gulch]

Again another treacherous pipeline

[cold ivy]

how bad are we talking here? even if we're talking performance, a concert pianist might say "dammit i'm so bad" when messing up a few notes that no non-experts can tell

[royal totem]

i ask people to play here

[cold ivy]

also, being bad at things is the first step towards being good at things

[gray juniper]

@deft stump you have/had that girlfriend remember? Logically that negates any claim that would worry you about being “ugly”. Congratulations someone loved you. You are capable of being loved. That’s literally the only thing that’ll ever matter regarding that topic I assure you

[royal totem]

but people never respond

therefore i'm unloved and should just disappear

[west spire]

You dragged my ass into Auric then proceeded to drag my dead ass through two more missions with 200+ ping.

[deft stump]

But it's just two depressed scrunklies with parents who are... yeah.

[cold ivy]

even if you've been bad at something for really long even after trying really hard to get better, it's possible that you're just approaching things the wrong way. it really is hard to tell

[gray juniper]

Yea why can’t you count?

[royal totem]

so i give up on trying to play with people.

[gray juniper]

And? Why are you criticizing yourselves and each other?

[marble crater]

Literally nobody cares if anyone gets carried or not we just bring it up for friendly trash talking (Dom is a noob by the way and I carried him)

[cedar delta]

what the hell is going on here

[deft stump]

It's arby. I have clutched on arby before. The class is hilariously tanky.

[gray juniper]

Human value is innate to the soul

[cold ivy]

side note: shield oggy is my cheat code for low skill havoc - my fundamentals are bad and i only know h1, push and block, but that's enough for h40

[pine tundra]

Whats the best flame staff perks?

[deft stump]

Is just normal.

[marble crater]

Those

[pine tundra]

What about Blessings?

[verbal thistle]

Flak + Maniac/Unyield/Crit chance

[marble crater]

or Unyielding instead of crit chance

[marble crater]

Those

[pine tundra]

Ok ty

[deft stump]

Wait till pubs call you for being bad.

[gray juniper]

Hyper criticism is rarely a good thing is all

[marble crater]

You might as well have asked "Hey guys, is my perfect weapon perfect?"

[cold ivy]

just because something is normal doesn't mean you gotta do it

only do things that benefit you, whether they're normal or not!

[deft stump]

You mean, play 'support' and panic.

[cold ivy]

i play heavy hitter shield so i've got lots of damage and stagger!

and grenade gauntlet is good at special sniping

[deft stump]

Is just how the brain is.

[cold ivy]

but taunt just turns off all melee enemies in the area for my allies which lets them go ham

[marble crater]

I wouldn't know. In my first game today someone spoke two words and I muted voice chat right away, I am not playing to talk to people
One time I got flamed in Russian, because I wasn't speedrunning, so I trolled and slowed them down, then left

[cold ivy]

whenever we fight armor or bosses the only member of the team in danger is me but that's ok because i have shield and hella tankiness

[deft stump]

So, I'm like a damage dump lasgun.

[marble crater]

Sigh

[deft stump]

You 'speak' with us though.

[cold ivy]

even a damage dump lasgun in the right hands can carry... sure it might be harder but it's doable

[deft stump]

I just have D&D dice rolls and gambling.

[marble crater]

I am being polite

[cold ivy]

if it works it works

[gray juniper]

@deft stump I’ll admit I’m one of the “pretty” ones. It offers a novel life experience at times when you realize you’re getting preferential treatment from people because of how you look. But all my life I realized this was trivial thing in my interactions in other people’s lives. I myself never hinged dating or making friends based on this. Someone’s body can be ugly even, but what matters to me is seeing who they are inside. If it’s good hearted, I greatly respect and adore that person

[deft stump]

Roll to hit and not be hit.

[gray juniper]

Physical beauty is a fading commodity in itself

[deft stump]

But it is nice to have when it is avaliable till it's not.

Gets you 'bonuses' in life.

[long wharf]

just be like me - accept your ugliness and make your personality shine brighter

[deft stump]

It's like a form of VIP.

[marble crater]

And then some people have a rude awakening when those bonuses go away later in life

[long wharf]

people respond to personality even more than looks

[cold ivy]

are you capable of treating other people with kindness and respect?

if yes, you're above average in that regard

[gray juniper]

But I’ve wondered myself, aside from minor interactions with people (who probably aren’t worthy of dealing with now that we ponder it), what else does it provide? Beauty is overblown

[cold ivy]

if not, it's a skill you can train so i'd recommend it!

[marble crater]

What if yes, but you choose not to?

[cold ivy]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[deft stump]

If you are smart, you'll make use of it to help compensate for it going away later down the line.

[long wharf]

you get no bonus points for purposefully being a gremlin

[cold ivy]

i think having the capability is still good, but choosing to not do it is not great

[gray juniper]

Ironic poetry

[cold ivy]

so yeah... the better question would be "do you treat other people with kindness and respect"

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-dragon-gif-5155585

[deft stump]

Some ppl want a pretty face. Ppl pick younger and prettier for jobs.

[long wharf]

only to a point

[deft stump]

To as much as my brain doesn't kark it up anyway.

[long wharf]

there are plenty of jobs where looks play no role and the only thing that matters is how good you are at the job

[deft stump]

Could just be born that way.

[cold ivy]

that's a good enough start - if you notice your brain karking it up, it's a good opportunity to figure out what went wrong and try to not repeat that

[gray juniper]

Pretty people have hierarchies where there’s always someone prettier and willing to be more vapid enough to talk down to you. In totality beauty is not worth its hype

[long wharf]

regardless, no amount of advice is going to help someone determine to wallow in their misery

at the end of the day, until you really want to change, you won't

[cold ivy]

it can be tough to notice when your brain is karking it up, because you're relying on your brain to report on your brain's internal processes

[deft stump]

Not when you lack the certs for it because Maths doesn't click for you.

[cold ivy]

this is where mental health professionals are generally recommended

[long wharf]

then those jobs weren't for you in the first place

why regret it?

[gray juniper]

Believe me. I was highly self confident for some time then i experienced the first time a girl talked down to me like “ew” and i realized: a) i never want to treat someone that b) that girl changed my opinion of her to the negative opposite so rapidly

[deft stump]

You don't till hours later. That's the thing.

[cold ivy]

late is better than never

the important part is getting used to when it happens so you can catch it earlier and earlier

it's like dodging a trapper net

eventually once you hear the windup you know it's coming

[gray juniper]

True. Inversely that’s why a lot of jobs are messed up when the pretty faced can’t actually manage. I’m sure their coworkers deplore those people too 😂

[deft stump]

Isn't it why it's better to just mask and just hide what you are?

[long wharf]

people unfit for the job, regardless of why they were hired, are the true DEI hires

[long wharf]

only if you enjoy wearing the mask, otherwise no

and if you enjoy that mask, then that's something else you need professional help with

learning to love yourself and accept the flaws you can't control is the absolute hardest thing to do

[cold ivy]

i think the most important word in that question is "better"

[deft stump]

With my ping, I need to precog the dodge.

[cold ivy]

"better" for who?

[long wharf]

most people don't really do it

[cold ivy]

every time someone makes a value judgement e.g. "good/bad" you gotta ask "good/bad for who? good/bad in what sense?"

[long wharf]

talking to a bunch of internet strangers isn't really a recipe for mental health, either

[deft stump]

I know the feel. Most ppl suck at it, just are 8+/10.

[long wharf]

if you have deep-seated issues, you need to talk to a professional

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-a-problem-you-should-have-yourself-checked-get-help-mike-lowrey-marcus-burnett-gif-15028302

[deft stump]

Not really, but it 'protects' in a way.

[cold ivy]

therapy can be expensive depending on where you are, but it's like a doctor for your brain cuz your brain is an organ like all the other organs and sometimes it gets sick

[long wharf]

no, it doesn't protect, it hides

[gray juniper]

What he said is right. If you want to experience a liberation that you haven’t before, you’ll fight yourself to defeat the habitual thoughts. You’ll realize you enjoy day-to-day much better and wished you did sooner

[deft stump]

That's way too expensive here tbh. Not even discounted/subsidised on the poor ppl card.

[long wharf]

take it from me, a combat vet that struggled with PTSD - professional help is necessary, and there's no viable alternative that leads to improved mental health

you can't talk yourself out of a situation you didn't talk yourself into

[gray juniper]

That sounds like emotionally bracing for impact. Like it’s a defense mechanism. Someone you learned to do but not necessarily helpful for alleviating or solving problems

[long wharf]

and this is way too heavy a topic for a public discord server

[gray juniper]

It’s gotten heavy in here before we’re ok with it

[deft stump]

I mean, I know deep down I'm not the worst, that's for sure.

[long wharf]

unless you're kidnapping people and melting babies into sludge, you're far from the worst

[deft stump]

Is psyker mains, we go up down often, yet we just huddle up together in the end for each other for most parts.

[long wharf]

giving advice and a little comraderie is good

going into great length and dominating the chat for a long time isn't

like I said before - until you're willing to change, you won't

professional help is about giving you the tools to help yourself

that includes medication when necessary

[deft stump]

Or you try, but end up falling back when things just somehow ends worse.

[long wharf]

you have to be sick and tired of your thinking/behavior to the point where you're willing to push through temporary setbacks

[gray juniper]

One day you’ll look at the features you don’t like and instead appreciate them as traits that define your unique identity. Like a painting. From far a painting can appear flawless and mechanically perfect. But when you step close you see the minute details. You see where the brush was too heavy in this one spot, some mixing of colors in another, an error that was worked over, rough materials in another. Then you don’t hate the painting for this. You see the story behind it. You see the effort and experience. Faces can be like this too. You see someone’s story in their eyes

[long wharf]

there are always setbacks, even when you think you're all better

it also takes a support system

nobody gets over mental health problems by themselves

[deft stump]

It can also just be an artstyle.

[gray juniper]

Everyone appreciates a different style too. Remember that part

Now let’s lighten it up

Look at old magos here dropping these truth bombs in the chat unexpectedly

[deft stump]

Getting dragged to h20 goop as ganger is pain.

[royal totem]

take the box. it makes it less pain

[deft stump]

I have box, 54 secs CD doesn't help.

[royal totem]

i take box and only 1 node in stim therefore also lowering box cd

[gray juniper]

He just kept going and I was like woah bro. You’re dropping that knowledge in a warhammer game

[deft stump]

You could go no nodes and hot potato a stim for inf boxes.

[long wharf]

or you go full 75s cd stim and stim box and chem dependency and don't care because you're dropping twice as many stim boxes as before

[strong gulch]

stimm hot potato is funny

[deft stump]

Naw, that's 10% more boxes.

[long wharf]

way, way more

ridiculously more

[deft stump]

At 75 sec cd, it's 90 sec actual cd.

[long wharf]

doesn't matter

because stim box isn't resetting stim cooldown if stim isn't ready when you drop the box

you still get stim effects from the box

you still nuke stim cooldown with kills

it's frankly ridiculous

[deft stump]

So even stimmless, you get chem dependency stacks?

[long wharf]

yep

because chem depend is now giving you a stack whenever you sniff ANYBODYS stimm effects

which really shouldn't be the case

[deft stump]

I would assume it only happens if stimms is off CD.

[long wharf]

nope

your stim box is getting the stim effect whether your stim is ready or not

[deft stump]

For all gangers.

[long wharf]

From all gangers.

two people drop boxes? they both just gained two stacks

[deft stump]

So are you saying if you manually stimm and drop box, double effect?

[long wharf]

yes

try it

[deft stump]

Ppl keep telling me it doesn't work like that.

[long wharf]

test it for yourself

I was dropping double the number of stim boxes last night in an auric mortis trial

[deft stump]

I even broko my atkspd.

[long wharf]

absolutely ludicrous numbers of boxes

my toxin build is stim box with all upgrades, chem depend with all upgrades

chem grenades and shivs for toxin-on-melee-crit

it's a truly stupid amount of toxin stacks

[deft stump]

Wouldn't blinders do as well?

[long wharf]

with needler in single target mode/model

[deft stump]

With bistol lethal or needler?

[long wharf]

they don't do well enough on the heavier packs

if you're about to get overrun by a small crowd, a blinder works, but so does meleeing your way out

it's the ragers/crushers/bulwarks that you really need dead

and blinders are very insufficient for those

[deft stump]

I guess too little stacks.

[long wharf]

you can't chuck a blinder and then turn away with the knowledge that everything now behind you is going to die and not reach you

chem grenades give you that

and since you're getting CDR on kill (double from toxin kills), a single well-placed chem grenade can straight give you your stim back

with this build, there's no reason to not maximize stim effects

[deft stump]

But limited 'nades.

[long wharf]

so you use them sparingly

[deft stump]

Mortis bs indulgences should never be considered.

[long wharf]

they're still too good to not take (especially with this build)

I'm not

frankly, none of the mortis effects for the Scummer are game-changing

[deft stump]

Otherwise heal+void+20 sec regen blinders is hilarious.

[long wharf]

I'm not taking into account stupid grenade effects in mortis

there's only one Scummer specific effect that's truly good, and that's the one that makes toxin'd enemies spread more toxin when they die

[deft stump]

Also, chem 'nade is 15 secs or so of sub 1 fps for me though.

[long wharf]

ouch

time to turn effects down, then

[deft stump]

It's below low.

[long wharf]

set it lower