psyker-class

[acoustic jacinth]

Oh so you got his sword too now?

[jovial juniper]

Power weapons SFX and shit are bugged

So it feels like it's nerfed

[marble crater]

Literally unplayable

[jovial juniper]

True

[marble crater]

So sad

[jovial juniper]

Imagine powering your sword but it doesn't go "swish swish bish, another dead heretic "

[tacit stump]

no the song is rebellion
https://youtu.be/T_M5VewR8Kw?si=17jG4e0DXLPMmnUE

[quartz barn]

Scoreboard being broken is also tragic

Cant see the impact of toxin

Also cant ego boost with damage dealt

[north sand]

If you mean the max ammo nil thing, someone posted a fix in the comments on nexus and it's been working for me

[quartz barn]

Didnt work for me

I crash on someone getting rescued

And when some other things occur that i dont know

[trail orbit]

Hey I get a lot of hand pain. Does someone know the timings for a deimos light1 spam macro?

[royal totem]

Wish i knew how to macro it lul

[dull scroll]

get this

also the latest ovenproof plugin mod have toxin damage and it's working

[quartz barn]

Ill check it out once i get home

[quaint lark]

When someone mentions they like Smite Psyker this is how the anti Smite users are...

[shy tiger]

which FGS mark should i be running? got the mk8 atm but unsure if the mk6 is where it's at for the strikedown heavies

[marble crater]

Whichever you like more, both are great

[wraith sphinx]

all that effort for a meme that's just wrong

[shy tiger]

perfect, cheers!

[torpid whale]

give me a build where i can truly be palpatine, and it works

[ripe obsidian]

I believe that is based on Syllo's fix

[quaint lark]

Ahh you wish to know the way of the Smyker?

[torpid whale]

No. I just want to be palpatine.

[quaint lark]

So smyker

Like do you wanna kill things with it or do ya do tiny ass stuns like ever so often?

[torpid whale]

Killing of course

[quaint lark]

So smyker

There's plenty of NICE people in here to ask, my bulid is somewhere earlier let me see if I cant find it

This is mine, havent changed it in a while, before update as I havent been on but it works amazingly for me

[mighty cipher]

Is that crystalline will?

[torpid whale]

no, this is patrick

[mighty cipher]

On SMITE? It literally doesn’t let you blow yourself up unless you just completely monkey brain it.

[torpid whale]

ok, but i am monkey

[mighty cipher]

Fair enough

[torpid whale]

im literally here to be palpatine

survival is optional

[mighty cipher]

If that’s the case I’d highly recommend switching a couple points out for more survivability talents.

[torpid whale]

no

[mighty cipher]

It’s Utility->Survivability. You won’t lose any damage.

[torpid whale]

I refuse

I will just not get hit, ez

[mighty cipher]

Alright then.

[torpid whale]

Her name is Beati, the B on her helmet stands for Beati.

[ripe obsidian]

I have smite builds in the pinned guide

[torpid whale]

yeah but thats a guide, and following a guide is lame

[ripe obsidian]

And yet you ask for guidance

[fluid aspen]

I'm not one to tell people how to play
But when you are level 28 gunker on Damnation smiting every single poxwalker fodder
Maybe don't play like that

[torpid whale]

but im not looking at a guide

[steel flame]

SABBAT MARTYR!

brain just had to spit it out

[torpid whale]

SOMEONE KNOWS!!!!!!!

Gaunt's Ghosts are the best books imo

other than the necron ones

[royal totem]

i think somebody hurts my brain

[torpid whale]

thats ok

[royal totem]

@strong gulch i found a song that sums up half my existence

[open iris]

What I do is watch a video and then actually think about why they take those points

[torpid whale]

nah, im a zealot main. Thinking is for the weak. True believers are free of thought

[royal totem]

no it's not. you're hurting innocent people's brains 😠

[torpid whale]

innocent?

[open iris]

So you don't want a guide but you also don't wanna think

[torpid whale]

exactly.

[open iris]

[royal totem]

leave them to their heresy

the inquisition finds them guilty

[torpid whale]

Ill have you know, i am a perfectly nonheretical zealot

[open iris]

Is your peril level lower if you don't think good?

[torpid whale]

What peril level?

[royal totem]

that's what heretics say

burn them

[torpid whale]

Nah, i have no peril level cause i dont muck about with that psyker stuff

[strong gulch]

ye?

[zinc phoenix]

Me every time new class: “this is fun but… miss me psyker”

Hive scum literally designed for gunker enjoyers but it’s just not the same 😭

[royal totem]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3P2ZhrSh7nw

[strong gulch]

This lives on repeat in my head now.

[royal totem]

i'm sorry ._.

[strong gulch]

lmao

I made myself dizzy from bobbing around.

[royal totem]

._.

[marble crater]

[pine oyster]

Anyone know how I can make Smite worth using?

[gray juniper]

All this smite talk 😭

[zinc phoenix]

The mael carry potential of wall is off the charts

[edgy horizon]

How to play psyker, total beginner here

[dull scroll]

Smite 😏

[gray juniper]

There you go. That’s it

Just hold down button. No more questions please

[edgy horizon]

ok 🥀

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/another-one-and-another-one-gif-13250129

[pine oyster]

That's the worst thing you can do with Smite.

[strong gulch]

Are you new to the game, new to psyker, or both?

[carmine beacon]

someone know how to fix dot icons in healthbars mod?

[edgy horizon]

New to psyker, currently level 22 on veteran and 3 on ogryn, I’m fairly well at axe swinging with spearhead sniping

Also shout stun veteran go brrrr

[pine oyster]

Magic has overheat number of death. Keep overheat meter of death below 100%

Combine silly magic with stabby things for fun.

Stay away from funny lightning if you don't want those mangy Havoc sweats giving you lip in here.

[zinc phoenix]

What do you want to play with? Staff or melee?

There are good builds in the pins to help you get there, but that’s a fundamental question

Psyker melee is extremely fun and high damage output but requires careful play to not get rekt

Psyker staff is very efficient as a dps but can leave you uncertain in melee and positioning

[zinc phoenix]

Please stop trolling new players

It’s fine to troll experienced players but new people have no idea

[strong gulch]

Be aware that the classes don't feel or work right without their full kits. Some classes more that others. Psyker being one of them.

Don't really focus on builds or gear while leveling, but feel free to experiment with stuff. Things like staves scale quite hard and need high investment it be really good. Assail is going to be your main weapon. At 30 you get access to better rolls. The first build in the build bonaza in the pins has a new psyker build at the top of it.

Now that you can quell with your reload button.

[zinc phoenix]

Potato is a reliable source, trust that tater

[pine oyster]

Is it because Smite is allegedly the worst blitz?

[zinc phoenix]

It’s because smite teaches people to play like morons and makes everyone around them think they are a c*nt

[strong gulch]

There are also a bunch of different builds in there. It can be overwhelming at first glance, but they are broken up by category and have recommendations for the more meta builds.

[strong gulch]

Smite can be a very strong tool. However...

Smite is often misused and has a big impact on other player's experiences. If it's used to perma stun enemies so people don't get to play and those enemies are CCed in a bad position or spread out or if you are slowing the team down by lagging behind just stunning stuff, people will leave the game, barrel you, not res you, etc. The CC also doesn't allow "on dodge" blessings and talents to function for you or your teammates. Parry is also out.

Because of the way Smite ticks and spreads, it's very good at getting the last bit of damage of an enemy's health even if other players did most of the damage. It also is an enabler for the rest of the psyker's kit and snowballs A LOT. So the way it scales in high density with little effort is absurd.

A lot of smite users also don't learn how to dodge or manage CC immune enemies.

A culture of lobby or mission dodging smykers has formed because of this.

[pine oyster]

Desperately needs a rework, then?

[edgy horizon]

thanks for the tips @strong gulch @zinc phoenix
I’m trying to absorb thy wisdom

[zinc phoenix]

Yes imo

[marble crater]

Just play, die, get better, play more, die less

[weary crane]

@quaint lark

[pine oyster]

That explains a lot. Thank you for clarifying.

[zinc phoenix]

Potato said what I did but like smarter 😂

[pine oyster]

Do you think Smite should be an aoe explosion, similar to the voidblast, but with electricity damage?

[zinc phoenix]

I think I’m not a designer but that a low effort skill that makes the game suck for everyone else is bad so the people who design should go back to the drawing board

The ideal for me as a melee guy would be a knife equivalent

[jovial juniper]

More akin to Arby's shield special would be better imo

[zinc phoenix]

Oh that would be sick af

Arby shield is goated

[pine oyster]

So? Smite should be a thrown thunderbolt?

[pine oyster]

"Break the line"?

[jovial juniper]

No
Shield special

[pine oyster]

Oh! That.

[strong gulch]

In the hands of some who knows positioning, timing, etc smite can be so fecking strong and really push the pace of a game. This kind of player also lets the other people play the game.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/r6-blitz-r6-blitz-gif-9391637427180039893

[quaint lark]

Yes?

[pine oyster]

So, just use it on crushers, maulers, gunners and other major threats?

[quaint lark]

Exactly ty

If used right it can clear hordes that are just to much at one point, hold enemies back while your teammates focus on either the twins or a boss while you take care of the adds, and when its not a shitshow you just use something normal, and if ya move and attack like your supposed to you dont hog every enemy unless its 100% needed bc its a SHITSTORM

[strong gulch]

Depends. Situations vary a lot. If the team has proven to not be able to handle those threats or things are getting out hand, it may be time to smite.

But if they can mow down maulers and such, then leave it be.

There's also using smite as a primer to push enemies into a better position for fight. Like if a horde is streaming through a choke point, you can smite them long enough to toss them back so you get enough time to run up and melee them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1xC1bzDJs

[quaint lark]

Now if theres a horde of crushers and no one can one tap them yet needed enemies that team mates are needed behind them sorry but im stopping the crushers first as theres like 20 of them

[quaint lark]

Exactly thats what I do all the time

One map i hate is the one where you have to watch two level of the scanner devices and theres 4 in total just before extraction, and teammates sit up FOR NO FUCKING REASON and get themselves killed while im perfectly fine...

Split up

[pine oyster]

Would you recommend smite on a Soulblaze heavy build as an escape option?

[quaint lark]

Ive never done a soul blaze bulid so dont ask me

[marble crater]

I would never recommend smite

[quaint lark]

Lol sounds like a true anti smiter lol

No wait I think i did one soul blaze bulid but it does not have smite

[pine oyster]

Sound like someone who's not using it right.

[quaint lark]

This

I like giving every ability a chance in some bulid

Even if its shit I wont do hard-core runs with it, just my normal aruic runs

[pine oyster]

I actually think assail isn't worth me using.

I find it out of my niche.

[zealous wing]

they should make staff bonk hit harder

[quaint lark]

Ya gotta use it in a good way, and ive seen people use it good just not my thing, do I have a bulid for it yes but its more so a casual bulid

[pine oyster]

Yet again, I could just not know how it works.

[quaint lark]

Yes

That is true

[pine oyster]

Should it stagger crushers?

[zealous wing]

nah thats what the force swords are for

[quaint lark]

Maybe not stagger but like just do better in general

It just feels bland T~T

[strong gulch]

So the way smite ticks means it's very good at getting the last bit od damage on stuff. Meaning it's great as a catalyst for PC. Shriek doesn't interrupt casting.

The OG smite build was with shriek. Most people do SG smite these days; in part because of smite's peril gen changes.

But most shriek builds are staff builds, and staff builds largely don't take smite.

[zealous wing]

it staggers gunners and such, but not better than lmb

[quaint lark]

This yea

[analog agate]

Tried scum. knife zealot and auto pistol vet had a baby. not my playstyle at all

[quaint lark]

If im running smite i do not run a staff

If im running a staff im not running smite

[pine oyster]

You don't want to race around like a havoc-slop try hard while using the adhd BRRT guns?

[quaint lark]

My other good bulid is inferno bubble

[zealous wing]

smite is also so atrociously often used badly that if i see someone with it the desire the leave them to die is strong

[analog agate]

I think I have just come to terms I vibe with VB and there won'

t be a playstyle that tops it for me

[quaint lark]

I can pop a good 2 bubbles easily and inferno with ease

[strong gulch]

So valid.

[quaint lark]

That is a downside I see alot of shitty smykers it is sad, I try to help them but it never works

I sat there one time and they ALLOWED THEIR SMITE TO HIT A DEAMONHOST I was like how tf did you do that?

[zealous wing]

99.99% of smite users are smykers. im so done with smite i want it deleted

[verbal thistle]

When smite psykers meet me

[marble crater]

I know who it was, it was @strong gulch

[quaint lark]

The only time I EVER hit a deamonhost is when theres so many enmies that it hit it so far away I couldent have known

[strong gulch]

I was nerfed. 😭

[pine oyster]

If you could ask the devs to change smite, how would you want it to behave?

[strong gulch]

VB changed

[quaint lark]

How?

[strong gulch]

well explostions changed

[zealous wing]

high cost single pulse aoe

[quaint lark]

Hmm I could see it

[marble crater]

They what

[quaint lark]

But it has a bigger stun for a moment to make up for it being a single one?

[zealous wing]

beans post the vb on gloriana clips

[pine oyster]

Like a voidblast staff (explodey area one) but it lasts longer?

[zealous wing]

no

[zinc phoenix]

That map — I think water silo or something — used to have a spawn door where 99% of baddies would come out. I would sit on the door and murder everything for ez life 😂

[quaint lark]

That one yes, my teammates ALEAYS FUCKING SPLIT UP

[strong gulch]

explosions changed

[zinc phoenix]

A lot of maps including that one reward 2x2 split

[quaint lark]

No they split into 1x1x1x1

[quaint lark]

I can handle myself as a smyker but they get overswarmed quickly and die

[zealous wing]

bursters explosion radius bigger, vb explosion radius outside circle smaller

[zinc phoenix]

I love wall

[strong gulch]

Post mortis trial release

[zinc phoenix]

The amount of times I’ve saved people with wall is literally uncountable

[zealous wing]

have to hit barrel to explode barrel

[strong gulch]

post scum release

[zinc phoenix]

Especially on noob weekend 👌

[quaint lark]

Mmmm noob weekend

[mighty cipher]

Im already terrible at ogryn but shit like this makes me unfathomably angry. Im so mad I wasnt wearing my headset because my mic didn't pick up my audible agony.

[quaint lark]

Always fun to help the noobs out

[zinc phoenix]

I’m tempted to go down to malice and solo a few things but I don’t want them to feel used

[marble crater]

Booooo

How could Fatshark do this?

[pine oyster]

Sarcasm.

[quaint lark]

I go down to damned mode for my lower runs

[quaint lark]

No i mean It I like helping them

[zealous wing]

just go do heresy then

i did heresy to farm rescues, because people die a lot there

[quaint lark]

Especially my partner, they have been playing longer then me but now I have more hours and skills

They do die a lot on heresey

[zinc phoenix]

I got rescue penance years ago 😂

[quaint lark]

Its like first two modes noobs fine, heresey they die learning alot, damned they know more but still die, and if they learned right they chill on aruic

[zinc phoenix]

Wall makes maels so much easier because it kills the greatest threat to humanity: bursters

[zealous wing]

and ive only been playing like 3 months :p

[zinc phoenix]

That said I can’t carry no ammo mael anymore, I’m tooo old and my hands hurt

[quaint lark]

Ive been playing for i think 5 months now?

Yea

[zealous wing]

ah 4, 4months

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been playing off and on since beta

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[zinc phoenix]

The gearing system was so bad I fucked off for a while

But mostly I’ve stuck around playing

[quaint lark]

I keep switching back and forth from Darktide to helldivers 2 to Stacraft 2

[zinc phoenix]

Alr I’m doing a heresy

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animated-cartoon-bitsy-avantris-gif-11187993299591816380

Lol

@pine oyster

[pine oyster]

I had to help out noobs on heresy.

I was using my shield arbitrator build, basically meaning I was largely committing to hordeclearing.

It was rolling steel.

By halftime, our squad was all downed twice (they had wound curios...) And I hadn't gone down once.

When the captain came, I dealt the most damage and actually bullied them for a few seconds.

We failed.

[pine oyster]

Just saying a campfire tale on the last time I helped noobs.

[quaint lark]

Rolling steel is a piece of cake if people do it right

Respect brother

[pine oyster]

They, for some reason, refused to shoot the gunners.

That was their mistake.

[quaint lark]

Oh god gunners you take out right away...unless theres a trapper

Trappers are a 1 priority no matter what, they can and will stun everyone

[royal totem]

i hate the boom bringer

it feels so weak

[zealous wing]

true

it was fun but very very bleh

chem nades /blinders my beloved

[mossy dust]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[royal totem]

blinders are good cuz they regen (especially if you have the talent that makes them give tox)

and chem nades are......well......chem nades

enough said

[zealous wing]

chem nades are good horde delete, and i like me a delete button

[royal totem]

but the rocket luancher is just.....

it doesn't do enough

chem nades also have good utility

[pine oyster]

When the fuck did psyker get a rocket launcher?

[royal totem]

we're talking hive scum here

[pine oyster]

Oh.

[zealous wing]

hopes crushed. dreams shattered

[royal totem]

lmao

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/justcallmepeas-mustard-gas-gif-2763343402909392448

[pine oyster]

Broken dreams so grand.
Sing of his final stand.
Long love Carolus Rex.

[quaint lark]

Why a rocket launcher when we have mustard gas from hive scum

[royal totem]

what if they replace smite with like a little warpslosion thing

[royal totem]

PENANCE

[quaint lark]

Thats brain burst

[pine oyster]

I think that's because they don't shower...

[quaint lark]

What?!

[royal totem]

aoe warpslosion

[royal totem]

there's a penance for using rocket launcher on hive scum

[quaint lark]

?

I love how we went from talking about smite to war crimes

[royal totem]

i play hive scum to commit war crimes

[pine oyster]

Not a war crime if it's against the enemies of man.

[mossy dust]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[royal totem]

yeah it's kill 90 specials/elites with rocket launcher. the only problem is rocket launcher is very anemic

[quaint lark]

Oof

[royal totem]

because you can't one shot crushers or bulwarks or i don't even think maulers

[verbal thistle]

Building aggression?

[quaint lark]

Wtf thats groos

[mossy dust]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[royal totem]

you tell me lmao. can't 1 shot muties either

[mossy dust]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[quaint lark]

https://tenor.com/view/marajtwt-cat-gross-ew-eww-gif-22586236

[pine oyster]

Pretty sure they made it so that there's a damage threshold for them now.

[quaint lark]

You cant one shot muties with a FUCKING ROCKET LAUNCHER?!?!?!

Ik people hate smite but rocket launcher might be the new hate...

[verbal thistle]

Unsure, I don't play mortis

[pine oyster]

The unarmoured big targets made of squishy meat?

[quaint lark]

Yes

[pine oyster]

Who couls have guessed you can 1 shot them with ordinance.

[quaint lark]

A rock can one shot them but a rocket launcher cant?

[royal totem]

i don't think there is.

too bad i don't know how to record clips

oh ok nvm you CAN one shot muties

but it might be conditional oon direct hit or they have to be super center on explosion radius

uncertain

oh ok you can but the falloff is pretty severe

so have to dead hit or just off it to 1 shot a mutie

[royal totem]

ok so the answer is the falloff of rocket launcher is just very severe which makes it feel anemic. you can 1 shot a crusher on a direct hit. but otherwise nope. muties are close to the same and reapers too. it's just kinda cinema

and still way worse than chemnade

[gray juniper]

That’s basically what people look for when they build for it. Tapping it is less effective than just using assail

[mighty cipher]

Also it hits like a fucking train so the ragdolls it makes are GOD TIER if it doesn’t gib

I have sent maulers all the way back to Terra itself with this shit

[royal totem]

yeah but chem nades

the thing is like it's always a relative comparison as with everything

[zinc phoenix]

Heresy remains hilarious

I hung back unless a run ending threat showed up and then I annihilated it 😂

[royal totem]

chem nades better. blinders also better just cuz they regen. so why pick rocket launcher as a serious thing

[zinc phoenix]

Rocket launcher is ass cheeks

[royal totem]

it's slow. the projectile is slow

[zinc phoenix]

The reason to pick it is a) memes b) the penance

[wispy bay]

It is just a slightly bigger krak blast.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s a slightly bigger ASS

It should 1 shot bosses 🙏

Big dick that boiii

[wispy bay]

But vet has regen, scum doesn't.

The damage from chem can is as good, if not better because it synergies with other talents.

Rocket is just there... nothing to work with...

[royal totem]

pretty sure kraks do more damage potentially?

with the damage improvement talent on it and all

i'm not 100% sure

[gray juniper]

What is wall?

[zealous wing]

you can one shot auric crushers but you have to 100% hit them

got my penance done in what, 5 or 6 rounds? maybe more but not much more

[mighty cipher]

Quad boss start on a H32 lmao

[zealous wing]

wouldve been faster if my oggy friend didnt take all the grenades but he wasnt in comms so he had no idea

[gray juniper]

And no smite sucks imo. 99.999999% of the time it’s used to choke teammates by stealing kills thus stealing damage/healing procs, fatiguing your fingers with a spread out melee situation, killing frames

[royal totem]

how about havoc?

[zealous wing]

did not run it in a havoc, and havent updated solo yet

we were doing goofball aurics

i think the dmg nodes apply tho

ill test it rn

[ripe obsidian]

You're a damage node

[zealous wing]

i feel like it sometimes

[zinc phoenix]

It can be useful but mostly it’s just annoying

[wispy bay]

It can 1 hit a crusher in auric. Still, too many enemies, the rocket kills too few.

[zealous wing]

weakspot on burgle

(dont have numericUI yet either) too much work to do

[ripe obsidian]

Boom Bringer is not very good imo

[gray juniper]

Yea most people suck. What is wall though?

[zinc phoenix]

Bubble left side, the ultimate denier of pox burster

[zealous wing]

the blast size is also fine

[gray juniper]

Oh hell you meant bubble of course

[zinc phoenix]

I got MGS with an old school surge smite build

[zinc phoenix]

Nah bubble is bad for anything other than melee

[zealous wing]

chems better tho

[zinc phoenix]

Wall keeps off the special swarms good and propa

[gray juniper]

No I get what you mean. I refer to that whole tree as bubble my bad

[zinc phoenix]

Bubble toughness regen 👌

And then the DR 😱

[gray juniper]

Baby voice of command

[strong gulch]

How do I make a separate buff bar with better buff mod that doesn't replace or integrate with the default buff bar?

I want to move the custom buffs with custom hud.

EDIT: The bars were on top of one another witch made selecting the new custom buff bar very difficult to select (let alone move). Be wary about angerly clicking around. 😭

[fierce crest]

baby voice of command plus a super smoke grenade

[zinc phoenix]

VOC all at once, bubble edges you

Heresy is funny

[pale prairie]

Needle pistol is crazy and is probably gonna get pruned back

[zinc phoenix]

It’s so slow to kill that I kind of doubt it

It’s really good at high end threats and aggressively mid at everything else

Like if you want to merk a boss it’s great. If you want to merk twelve gunners it’s ass

If you want to snapshot a trapper? Mega ass

[zealous wing]

the fuck you mean ass

its still really fuckin quick

even shiv throw is fast, and needler is 2 more toxin stacks than that

[pale prairie]

Havoc 40 - how to use needle gun:

• idk lmao do 2.5m dmg on havoc 40, 300k boss dmg, take 0 dmg, and destroy carapace with zero effort

• Depending on the mark, headshots do +1 or +2 stacks up from base 6, and crits do +1 or +2, and you can get up to +2 or +4 if you headshot crit. This doesn't matter that much because of how much ammo you get.

• Tap a boss to get to ~30 stacks, then for 2-3 sec you should fight elites / specials, then tap the boss again to refresh the timer. This is how you upkeep STUPID damage on bosses (you WILL have the highest boss dmg in havoc 40) while upkeeping ammo w/ pickpocket

• Butt ass captain shield damage, but shreds hp. Keep the stacks up for when the shield breaks. EATS twins.

• Just use medcrate with AoE stim, NO keystone (anti-synergy, dependency doesn't stack when AoE stim is used (BUG?))

run the close up to 12.5m damage FIRST talent and that WILL buff the DoT, nothing else with "range" or "close" or "kill" does shit. Still take the +10% toxin damage, 5%x3 stacking base dmg, and +15% elite/monstrosity damage nodes though......just make sure you kinda remember to use the 5% x 3 stackiing (when near chem toxin enemies)

[zealous wing]

crate not giving dependancy is a bug yes

also run needler with stripped down and you can sprint and slide around an entire room, reloading as needed taking out targets, since the reticle shrinks when youre sliding

[zinc phoenix]

Meh

[zealous wing]

did that in an auric duo with six last night, was fun practice

[zinc phoenix]

2.5m isn’t some incredible damage number

Taking zero damage is great and all but depends as much on the team as you

[zealous wing]

it is for doing nothing else

also 2.5m in current modifiers is good

[pale prairie]

Riveting discussion

[zinc phoenix]

I agree

There are plenty of boss nuke builds and weapons

[pale prairie]

It is about investment for the damage. And most of that is tough to kill stuff like elites

[zinc phoenix]

You haven’t established that needle is particularly noxious for gameplay

[zealous wing]

noxious

[zinc phoenix]

But yeah, my point is pretty simple: there are loads of “I nuke boss/elite builds in seconds” builds/weapons

I don’t think needle stands out particularly hard in that crowd other than from a novelty perspective

[zealous wing]

passive dot while doing your main job is always good imo

[main wyvern]

Havent played in years. Just tried voidstrike. My beloved...

[zealous wing]

its the only other class rn that can perform such high dot while doing other things

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, but if that’s your concern why does soulfire exist

[zinc phoenix]

lol, lmao even

[pale prairie]

What hexis said. This is passive dots that work while you do other stuff and unlimited ammo from pickpocket

[zealous wing]

because you cant have 2 soulblaze psykers on a team fluidly

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker also has unlimited ammo

[pale prairie]

Soul fire requires charging and firing over time. This is a gun

[thorn cedar]

what is 'passive' in this instance

[pale prairie]

Pew pew

[zinc phoenix]

Nerf both 🤷‍♀️

[thorn cedar]

cause shooting the gun is very much not passive

[pale prairie]

Dots

[thorn cedar]

perilous combustion? thats passive

[zinc phoenix]

Inferno is dogshit gameplay, needle is way better than that

[thorn cedar]

tox on crit? passive

[zealous wing]

put soulblaze on boss, go back to trash killing. put toxin on boss, go back to special/elite targeting. that boss will die if the other 2 dont do their job

[thorn cedar]

having to draw and fire a gun? not passive

[zinc phoenix]

Tox on melee crit tho

[pale prairie]

Tox on weakspot

[thorn cedar]

everything else is just what dots do

[pale prairie]

Soul fire damage is a standard amount. Tox can be increased by talents

[thorn cedar]

needle gun is very strong but i would not call it a 'passive tox applicator'

it is very much an active applicator

[zealous wing]

it was severely noticable when the arby was soloing the plogryn, vs when i was there to put tox on and keep it up

well yeah but passive as in, dont need to focus on it 100%

[zinc phoenix]

There are so many builds that can erase a boss/cara in seconds

[pale prairie]

I agree to an extent. Oddball was asking how it’s different from everything else. The passive dots after firing are how I see it

[zinc phoenix]

And again, needle as a snapshot is ass

[thorn cedar]

well

[zealous wing]

being able to split attention is very handy

[thorn cedar]

i have a very, intense even, strong disagreement with the word passive here and thats about it lmao

[zealous wing]

especially if theres 2 or more monsters

[pale prairie]

ITS WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND

[thorn cedar]

THATS JUST WHAT DOTS DO

you may as well say 'active melee damage'

thats just melee damage

automatic ATM machine ass shit

[pale prairie]

Okay so dots can be working while I crowbar or do objectives

How about tha?

[zinc phoenix]

Ok?

[thorn cedar]

how about deeeeeez

[ripe obsidian]

A wild Krieger appears.

[zealous wing]

if dot isnt passive neither is KF

[zinc phoenix]

KF I like because it makes BB good

And bb isn’t good 😭

[zealous wing]

you still have to apply dmg once for kf to proc therefore not passive

if we follow dot logic here

[thorn cedar]

its passive in that it requires no additional input of any kind to trigger

and i know youre going to say "lol dots are like that"

[zinc phoenix]

My pov is wait and see whether scum even finds a place in havoc gaming

[zealous wing]

it requires the same input a dot does

[thorn cedar]

but again dots are implicitly passive

it is a redundant phrase

[zinc phoenix]

B/c arby can do the boss deletion job just fine while also providing a ton of stagger

[thorn cedar]

but its how you have them apply

[zealous wing]

but we said passive damage not passive dots

[zinc phoenix]

Idk why it matters if the damage is “passive”

[zealous wing]

dots are passive damage but not all passive damage is dot (kf)

(or dog)

[zinc phoenix]

Also with the way stacking works and the tox cap at 30 it doesn’t really matter if you weak spot. Just fire 6 shots

[pale prairie]

You know how it is. Life, work, fighting existential dread. Good to see you

[zealous wing]

or shoot a crusher in the head 3 times

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah that works ok too

If I were gonna nerf needler — which I’m mega doubtful it needs — I’d cut the reserve ammo not the dmg

[pine oyster]

Is Bfs a good weapon?

[pale prairie]

Yeah the infinite ammo is the only thing that seems crazy about it

[zinc phoenix]

Pickpocket requires you to spend min 3 talents, if you do that you are losing important stuff

[pale prairie]

Damage is very good though but not too crazy

[pale prairie]

Oh no I guess infinite ammo is pointless

Interesting take

[ripe obsidian]

I know all too well.

[zinc phoenix]

Opportunity cost

If you’re in a desperado build needle is pretty bad. If you’re in a melee build you’re probably better off amping up the melee

[ripe obsidian]

Force sword? Yes. Obscurus is the best mark but hardest to use. Deimos is safer but not as strong. Illisi is outmatched by the force greatsword.

[pale prairie]

This would be a needle build as I stated above. Mostly focusing on defensive shit and a couple other things

[zealous wing]

well duh

thats like taking a revolver on a gunker build

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like that makes you good at elite hunting and not much else. Idk that that’s opie

[pine oyster]

What about the chainsword ish special ability?

I thought people hated needing to stay on target in order for their abilities to work?

[zealous wing]

it'd WORK but like

WHY

[pale prairie]

Elite hunting AND boss hunting

[zinc phoenix]

But not Captain

[zealous wing]

and specials

[pale prairie]

And you can still kill chaff with melees after maxing dots

[pale prairie]

Captain SHIELDS

[zealous wing]

and its good on captains

[ripe obsidian]

You basically never use the special attack except to build peril or sometimes attack a captain

[pale prairie]

AND THE DOT CAN BE WORKING ON THE SHIELDS WHILE THEY ARE UP

As soon as shield drops boom tons of health damage

[zinc phoenix]

Its not particularly impressive on caps is my experience

I’ve been doing a lot of tox and I haven’t seen them just disintegrate

[lone ravine]

Tox deals .1x dmg to shields

[pine oyster]

Then why not use the deimos?

[pale prairie]

Clearly people are focusing on the two builds you mentioned and not on needle maxing

[lone ravine]

Oh wait wrong class lmao

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not hard to cap out on tox and as you’ve mentioned there’s hardly anything to amp it up

[ripe obsidian]

This is the Scum build I am testing. Shivs + ??? secondary. Damage output is bonkers. Debating dropping the toxin stuff for more mobility or survivability.

[zealous wing]

obscurus and deimos specials have very limited special use cases, general combat not being one of them usually

[ripe obsidian]

I do use the Deimos.

[zinc phoenix]

Looks pretty similar to Cole’s bonesaw build

[pale prairie]

+30% potentially. The point is the damage ramps fast and dots are quick to apply.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, that was part of my basis. I am still tweaking it.

[zinc phoenix]

Ok, but again soulfire exists and is easier to apply to massively more targets. It’s routine to hit multiple millions of damage in havoc with inferno correctly spec’d

[ripe obsidian]

Anyway, Obscurus has a better attack chain if you're good at it. But it's not as safe.

Deimos has a safer, slower attack chain that staggers anything

[zinc phoenix]

Bolter builds annihilate bosses super fast

[fierce crest]

they should give hscum a rivet gun

[ripe obsidian]

Even crushers or captains on a headshot

[zinc phoenix]

Idk why I care about needle

[pine oyster]

It good against ragers?

[pale prairie]

What was the carapace damage of soul fire again?

[ripe obsidian]

Decently. If you can get them with H2 consistently to knock them over. Obscurus outranges ragers, I believe.

[zinc phoenix]

These are not particularly impressive timings

[pale prairie]

It’s not max stacks

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[pale prairie]

That’s like 4 on the rager doing 250 per sec

[zinc phoenix]

It’s one rager

You know as well as I do they don’t come in ones and twos

[pine oyster]

Sweet.

Is it worth using compared to BFGS?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, they fulfill different niches

[fierce crest]

more single target dps for sure

[ripe obsidian]

Obscurus, Deimos, and FGS are all worth using

[pale prairie]

True again my big point is the unyielding and carapace damage

[fierce crest]

rip illisi, force bad sword

[ripe obsidian]

Illisi is just a worse FGS right now, sadly

[fierce crest]

yeah

force great sword
force bad sword

[ripe obsidian]

If they made the Illisi special spread Soulblaze, it might be neat

[strong gulch]

@zealous wing Numeric UI was the issue and I was able to work around it by putting the buff icon over the ability element.

[zinc phoenix]

I’m ok with a gun doing a lot of single target damage without a ton of investment. Look at plasma obliterating whole groups of ragers for example

I don’t think needle beats out plasma performance against mid tier targets

[pine oyster]

Anyone else remember when BFGS could one shot a mauler?

Good times.

[zinc phoenix]

Also despacito brauto 🍆 👌 🔥

[fierce crest]

the bad blessing is right there, waiting to be reworked

just change it to special hit

[pale prairie]

Yeah let me repeat myself that it’s the infinite ammo I see being a problem in high havoc. With very little ammo drops something that can stop a train of carapace and continue to have ammo is interesting. Granted having some tanks will make it much better

[pine oyster]

Soul blaze needs to ignore armor imo.

[lone ravine]

change it to special hit too on trauma staff

[lone ravine]

purgatus doesnt need a buff

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t disagree. My POV is that that’s ok

[fierce crest]

but its good on trauma

[pale prairie]

Dude if soulblaze ignored armor that would be insane

[pale prairie]

Guess we will see

[fierce crest]

welcome back sienna flame mace

[pine oyster]

Let the heretics burn!!!

[ripe obsidian]

My idea to rework it is 2 stacks on a regular hit, 4 on a crit.

[pale prairie]

Right now majority of scum are actual scum and haven’t figured out how to survive. When they do I think random lobbies will be interesting

[mighty cipher]

Power creep like that is how you end up with the current state of H40.

[ripe obsidian]

Let me introduce you to Uncanny Strike.

[pale prairie]

I know but that at least take some work. He’s saying right from the jump

[pine oyster]

I've seen scum say that they need to do more hopping around and shit in order to survive...

That's good. They're learning to dodge for once.

[pale prairie]

I have also heard some of their dodge talents might not be working right

[ripe obsidian]

I have met two good scum so far in random H40s

[pale prairie]

My how unusual

[pine oyster]

Anyone who plays havoc wanted it to be gruellingly hard, why is that surprising?

[royal totem]

you should play with me so i can introduce you to bad scum in h40 😏

[ripe obsidian]

Both were players whose steam handles I recognized as being good players

[pine oyster]

Really?

[mighty cipher]

It’s hard in bullshit ways because of powercreep. Number go up isn’t always a good thing even in a PvE game.

[fierce crest]

the problem is they didnt go far enough

[pale prairie]

Yeah I think the one with extended dodge range maybe? Complaints from players I have run with so not sure on hard facts about broken talents

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, most playtesters are H40 regulars. So the game is balanced around H40.

[fierce crest]

add havoc 80

[pale prairie]

They do exist!

[ripe obsidian]

Going by the promo videos, no one at Fatshark is very good at their own game

[fierce crest]

the crowbar showcase video

[ripe obsidian]

Nimble works fine. Dodging just doesn't do anything against ranged, only melee. So people think it's broken even though it isn't.

[pale prairie]

It’s why the trailers take so long. They have a hard time getting good footage

[pine oyster]

Either way, i'm sure that the devs would be able to balance Soulblaze ignoring armor.

Would probably make the blaze staff usable outside of spritzing rotters with a flame.

[fierce crest]

hits 4 poxwalkers and then definitly gets hit by a burster right after it cuts

[ripe obsidian]

Yeahhhhh

[mighty cipher]

It already does with uncanny swapping

[pale prairie]

Ah should be using the desperado

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno staff makes short work of everything that isn't a Crusher. And even that is easy enough to work around

[mighty cipher]

And psyker especially doesn’t need any buffs whatsoever

[pale prairie]

Bruh both the flame staffs are great

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker is the strongest class by a wide margin.

[pale prairie]

Now that we tank

[mighty cipher]

Some of the individual staves do, but nothing about the class itself needs buffed

[ripe obsidian]

Scum and Vet are probably second

[pale prairie]

JUST A DREAM @ripe obsidian

[pine oyster]

They feel shit to use in my opinion.

[mighty cipher]

Vet and it’s not close

[ripe obsidian]

Just a Dream is a trap talent and I will die on this hill

[pale prairie]

What staves? It’s just trauma and purgatus…. /s

[mighty cipher]

Acyhls power doing over 5k in one push attack is fucking diabolical

[pale prairie]

I mean this very politely but you’re probably using them incorrectly/building/talent spread

[mighty cipher]

And plasma. And the grenade spam.

[fierce crest]

it makes me more scared of my own power

its worth

[marble crater]

Flamer and bully

[pale prairie]

Oh fuck he died when he exploded from Just a Dream overload

[ripe obsidian]

I did 7800 damage on a Shiv heavy last night in testing.

[pale prairie]

False i am being German

[fierce crest]

just dont get hit when at 96.99% peril when about to use a warp attack

easy

[pine oyster]

Takes ages for the tap fire to kill a poxer and the charge variant leaves me open to gunners.

Stopped using it after a sniper got me mid burst.

[fierce crest]

you can dodge while charging

[marble crater]

Rude, we never bullied anyone

[ripe obsidian]

Shivs can one-shot H40 elites pretty easily

[mighty cipher]

Now can that same build snipe 3 gunners with one shot while giving the entire team gold toughness with a short cooldown universal stagger blast?

[pale prairie]

So the LMB is for staggering and safety. And the crit dodge range talent keeps you very safe most of the time. There is a build guide in the pins

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, Scum and Vet are strong for different reasons

You can't compare them 1:1

[pine oyster]

What about during the attack?

[fierce crest]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Pls no

[fierce crest]

[pale prairie]

I am angling more for saying hard things to people’s faces

[zealous wing]

inferno weak pls buff

[pale prairie]

Still love that talent and I won’t die on that hill because I have JaD

[fierce crest]

hard thing in my face or something idk >#zealot-class

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/all-days-my-safe-word-keep-going-go-on-go-for-it-gif-16278383

[ripe obsidian]

Vet is better at sniping specials and providing team support. Scum is better at being aggressive and cleaning up threats and horde clear.

[pine oyster]

It's not loading.

[pale prairie]

And floor inspecting

[zealous wing]

then wait?

[ripe obsidian]

I find it easier to survive on Scum than on Vet

[zealous wing]

bro acting like im the one controlling discords embed

embed?

[ripe obsidian]

You do. We all know it.

[zealous wing]

:(

[quiet inlet]

you could go to one of the other times that clip has been posted

[pine oyster]

Yes, you personally are the one behind this, I clearly stated that.

[fierce crest]

can we have image remixes back?

[zealous wing]

no

[marble crater]

Ah, yea we do indeed do that, we just call it "being blunt" and use that as an excuse to be jerks

[pale prairie]

Yeah cause at heart you are scum

[pale prairie]

This is liebe

[pine oyster]

How the fuck?

[ripe obsidian]

Finally the world will recognize me as the stain on the floor I really am

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-total-war-warhammer-great-unclean-one-daemons-nurgling-gif-24491424

[fierce crest]

does that nurgling have a tooth in its butt

[ripe obsidian]

Uncanny Strike.

[wraith sphinx]

Der krieger returns...

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shreks-meme-gif-14773907558805575638

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/penis-thats-a-penis-meme-memes-gif-21094962

[pine oyster]

30 crushers is a mad flex of skill that feels kind of insulting to throw at a heresy dweller like me.

Wouldn't you say, frog person?

[pale prairie]

It’s well known that Hexis cheats

[zealous wing]

its just proof inferno isnt weak

[fierce crest]

infinite cleave doesnt care about number

[zealous wing]

wasnt me tho 😭

thats doms clip

[fierce crest]

itdd do that against 3 crushers in heresy

or 500 crushers in h40

[pale prairie]

Oh light day?

[fierce crest]

its one pack

what could it be

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[fierce crest]

3 million total hp?

[pale prairie]

My favorite

[pine oyster]

You talking about the insane herd crushers?

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-wazzup-scary-movie-scream-gif-16474707

[pale prairie]

No I am mildly flaming my good friend hexis

[zealous wing]

i dont even use spidey sense when i have music on max 😭

[pale prairie]

Everything he said is correct inferno is extremely good you have to build it correctly and take advantage of blessing interactions

[fierce crest]

i forgot that every phone in the house would be on the call

[pine oyster]

Hah!

[fierce crest]

that was fun

[pale prairie]

Or just run around as knife

[ripe obsidian]

It's not that challenging, I think. Deimos push attack trivializes it.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[fierce crest]

[wraith sphinx]

and so time marches on

[fierce crest]

[pale prairie]

[zealous wing]

how i feel rn ngl

[pine oyster]

Then I could use some advice.

[zealous wing]

i am legally a year older

[fierce crest]

you pick up the phone to make a call and you fall into your dad and grandma talking or something

[zealous wing]

its bullshit

[pale prairie]

Have you checked the build bonanza on Pins?

[wraith sphinx]

I remember trying and failing to eavesdrop on convos like that as a kid 😂

[pale prairie]

Happy birthday

[fierce crest]

yeah, had to pick up the phone really quietly

so they didnt hear the click

[pine oyster]

My brother in christ. I can barely handle 4 crushers in a fight by my own, what do MEAN?

[pale prairie]

I’ll get you some hakarl

[fierce crest]

is that the stinky shark

[wraith sphinx]

first time I did it I got got because I was breathing into the microphone

[zealous wing]

if you use deimos, the heavy stab knocks them on their ass

the push attack on all force melee interrupts them, even mid overhead

[pine oyster]

H1?

[fierce crest]

h2

can go l1 h2 tho for quick access

then h2 l3 loops

[cold ivy]

i think push attack also chains into h2 if you really need immediate stagger but the h2 comes out slower

[pine oyster]

Is this on a max empowerment weapon?

[zealous wing]

any

[cold ivy]

vs crushers the basic idea is to put soulblaze on them and then stack uncanny strike so the rending lets the soulblaze deal more damage to carapace

deimos push attack always counts as a weakspot hit and has great range so you can stack uncanny very easily that way, instead of having to actually aim for the head in melee

[pine oyster]

Do crushers have some form of knockdown immunity in the psykanium?

[cold ivy]

i'm actually not 100% sure if uncanny only applies while your melee is out, but one of the more experienced players here probably knows (edit: according to kuli's guide the rending is only while your melee is out)

[pine oyster]

Not working for me more than once.

[cold ivy]

fatshark added some kind of diminishing return thing where crushers are stagger immune for 3 or 6s (?) after medium or heavy stagger respectively, iirc, unless you're using forced knockdown like vet shout

[fierce crest]

stagger resistance after stagger

[fierce crest]

it allows some attacks to stagger in one hit without being able to perma stun stuff

[royal totem]

finally done with rocket launcher penance

[pale prairie]

So delicious they bury it in sand for 6 months then hang it in a shed for some months more

[fierce crest]

[pale prairie]

Crushers and I think a few other enemies have a few seconds of stagger immunity after being knocked down once

[zealous wing]

if its just one crusher, deimos can easily kill it before it stands back up

[fierce crest]

sometimes

[zealous wing]

even 3 is ok

[fierce crest]

this post made by stimmed nurgle blessed crusher

[zinc phoenix]

We are not blunts, they are blunts, get it right

[pale prairie]

Ruiners of fun

[zealous wing]

just gotta practice tbh

[pine oyster]

Ragers especially.

[zealous wing]

youre on xbox so you cant use the mods we have to practice sparring, so you'll have to just practice in live matches

[fierce crest]

ragers get stagger resistance when flailing

but its not full immunity

a deimos headshot should still floor them

[pale prairie]

I suggest practicing where hexis can carry you

[zealous wing]

lmfao

😭

[pine oyster]

Auric?

[zinc phoenix]

In an open area yes

In a tight room no

[pale prairie]

Hexis will play anything

[zealous wing]

play yes, win, no guarentees

[pale prairie]

Tight room with fire grenades and tox gas

[zinc phoenix]

Losing is more fun

[pine oyster]

I don't have auric unlocked, fuck.

[zinc phoenix]

If you win it’s just kinda boring if you lose there’s lots of spice

[zealous wing]

i can load whatever

[zinc phoenix]

I have to take the dogs out but can come along after

[zealous wing]

its more fun if you somehow win even when the director gives you some serious bullshit imo

[pine oyster]

Until it's a "Darktide moment™️"

[zinc phoenix]

There is no bullshit, there is only skill issue 🙏

[zealous wing]

3 monsters at once on heresy id call bullshit ngl

[zinc phoenix]

Also I’ve had some wine

[zealous wing]

idk what the director was on to get that ability

[fierce crest]

losing is fun

[pale prairie]

All Darktide players are masochists only the Director doesn’t recognize safe words

[zinc phoenix]

Was it the atonement thing?

[fierce crest]

thats why im glad im a mid level havocer

if i could win h40s consistently the game would be complete

[zealous wing]

not the specific one im thinking of, but it also does happen on atonement

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-git-gud-gif-16530511115199627055

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-sid-my-favorite-favorite-ice-age-a-mammoth-christmas-gif-25536721

[zealous wing]

but atonement it makes sense

[pale prairie]

Oh a wild perfectionist

[zealous wing]

normal heresy makes no sense for 3

[pale prairie]

Damn not shiny

[fierce crest]

i feel like this would go hard with one winged angel as backing track

[pale prairie]

I fucking love atonement

[pine oyster]

I once had some knobhead shoot me off a cliff with a pox burster. I lived just for me to be greeted with a chaos spawn.

I had to outrun the chaos spawn at 1 up until a barrel my team mate detonated blew up and killed me.

[zinc phoenix]

Atonement is great, they should make it permanent

[zealous wing]

atonement as a concept is fine, but i fucking hate cranial

[zinc phoenix]

“Press f to get fucked” I love it

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[zealous wing]

i dont like the constant "where am i now" from cranial

[pale prairie]

I love watching scum get launched over rails though

[zinc phoenix]

I love it, I get blasted into space 😂

I once had to solo clutch because I accidentally the entire team into orbit

[pale prairie]

Honestly the launching has repositioned me more favorably than not

[zealous wing]

im there to bonk things with sword, not be flung away from things i want to bonk

[zinc phoenix]

Alright who wants some killing

[ripe obsidian]

I'm a sadist.

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-rick-morty-krombopulous-michael-gif-5161053

[pale prairie]

I know I saw your Smyker build

[fierce crest]

if a squad needs a 4th im down

[zinc phoenix]

I think we were helping some vegetable

I did a couple heresy today it was funny

[fierce crest]

ye

down for whatever

[pine oyster]

I forgot what I was going to say.

[fierce crest]

malice

h40

all good

[ripe obsidian]

The (consenting) suffering of others is ambrosia to me.

[zinc phoenix]

Well I’m just vibing, someone can add me

[ripe obsidian]

True.

[fierce crest]

i see scoreboard updated so im checking for crash

but otherwise ready whenever

[pale prairie]

Future Historians will condemn us for not stopping your reign of terror here and now

[pine oyster]

Does this mean people you play with ask before summoning an atonement boss mid horde?

[ripe obsidian]

We easily duo'd auric excise last night with my fresh level 30 scum. Winning is easy

[pale prairie]

Is numeric UI fixed? My baby was throwing ten million errors

[ripe obsidian]

I just let other people summon it. That's consent.

[pale prairie]

The button must be pushed

[ripe obsidian]

If I let them write such books

[zealous wing]

"easily" my guy it was like, 9am and i hadnt slept

[fierce crest]

allegedly

testing that too

[pine oyster]

There is no bodily or conceptual sound able to convey how done I am with that shit.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-marvel-meme-what-heroes-do-gif-14703930

[zealous wing]

my favourite is when they end up RNGing in a hexbound

and it always goes for me first

[pale prairie]

Bruh

Look at your name

It recognizes Kin

[zealous wing]

i also love when they whine in chat "why didnt she vanish"

like, no ok, it makes sense they're confused

but its still funny

they watch me wander off trying to kite her while they deal with trash, then they KEEP WALKING AWAY WHEN THEY*RE DONE, leaving me alone with her, they deserve the wipe lmfao

[pine oyster]

We should make people into servitors for doing that shit without asking.

[zealous wing]

like, i wander off so you CAN deal with trash without corruption, the least you could do is deal a few gunshots or smacks bro 😂

like, i can SEE you have kraks, vet, throw me one

[fierce crest]

didnt crash instantly

[pine oyster]

Imagine summoning a boss battle, expecting someone else to deal with it and being surprised when it comes back.

[zealous wing]

right!?

any other one i can easily take out, DH is just mega slow to solo when youre on something like inferno

well, "easily"

i can dodge them easier

[pine oyster]

I swear to god, it's like a moth landing on a glowing button that is also wired to a nuke.

Can't even stop them by asking in chat politely because of how slow typing is on xbox.

[zealous wing]

this events DHs make me glad i put KD back on my inferno build

[pine oyster]

Kd?

[zealous wing]

kinetic deflection

[pine oyster]

As in the K:D ratio?

[pine oyster]

That too. Cannot live without it.

[zealous wing]

its normally fine, but then hexbounds

so it stays on until atonement is over

[fierce crest]

numeric working but its a lil confused

[pine oyster]

?

I don't get it.

[fierce crest]

ui is crowded

[pine oyster]

Mod?

[fierce crest]

yeah

numeric ui

adds the % ammo indicator

[pine oyster]

I see.

[fierce crest]

but it obv shouldnt be blocking the actual ammo number

[zealous wing]

could maybe custom hud it into proper position?

[fierce crest]

and it didnt before the update

[pine oyster]

Just count how many seconds of flame you have left from Full tank.

[fierce crest]

thats the total ammo %

[zealous wing]

what region are you btw, vegeta

[fierce crest]

so its easier to know if you can pick up an ammo pack without wasting any

[pine oyster]

As of recently? Europe

[fierce crest]

it also adds stuff like exact numbers for teammate health/toughness/ammo

adds a cooldown number for ability

its quite nice

[ripe obsidian]

It was easy

One bot was dead the entire time and the other got stuck in an elevator

And we just hop, skip, jumped to victory

Easy peasy

[zealous wing]

you say that like i didnt die twice

[fierce crest]

it moves tho
also im a custom hud noob so idk how to work with stuff that all piled in the same spot

[ripe obsidian]

You live, you die, you live again

[fierce crest]

https://tenor.com/view/sekiro-video-game-moon-fields-gif-17684069

die twice mentioned

[ripe obsidian]

It would be interesting if a class had a talent to allow them to parry with perfect blocks on any weapon.

Balanced? Probably not.

But interesting

Probably Zealot of the existing classes

[strong gulch]

Anyone know how to add more than 1 weapon to skitarius?

[ripe obsidian]

You should be able to pick from the dropdown menus

[strong gulch]

Seems like I can only add one.

I may be missunderstanding tho.

I am experiencing mental exhaustion.

[ripe obsidian]

I have stuff added for most weapons, then a global combo for everything else

[strong gulch]

Thanks for confirming it can do that. I'll try to figure it out later then. I simple can't at the moment.

[zealous wing]

idk who sent an invite but i was afk

[strong gulch]

yeah I have to do this later. I feel so unwell trying to get this to work.

[zealous wing]

oof

id offer help but idk how the mod works

declined by a lvl 1 psyker for adventure

life ruined, absolutely shattered

[quiet inlet]

maybe they wanted to be the only psyker

[ripe obsidian]

Rest, friend

[gray juniper]

Do tech priests apprentices get minor augmentations?

Someone said they wished for a skitari to be added for a mechanicus faction member, but that seems OP for Darktide

[jovial juniper]

Nah man
According to some folks on gen chat

They wouldn't add it

Gameplay too similar

[gray juniper]

Maybe how fatshark would likely do it yea. In my own mind, some low augment Martian would be interesting. Special move is merchandrite blender etc

[marble crater]

There is only so much different gameplay you can do in darktide, it will be similar to something no matter what

[gray juniper]

Yea look at the hive scum just now

It seems like a separate branch of light-zealot/veteran

[fierce crest]

add psyker ogryn

[peak sundial]

went through an entire hero's journey with three randoms killing eight fuckillion mutants throughout the mission
somehow got to finale
aborted by unexpected error
think i will take a long break now

[fierce crest]

instead of you charging its a spectral ogryn that charges instead

instead of barrage summon a spectral ogryn with a twin stubber

instead of taunt

https://tenor.com/view/street-fighter-zangief-spinning-lariat-wrestling-punch-gif-3938336

[gray juniper]

At least it’s not like helldivers where lately it’s like I can’t finish a mission without a force quit

[jovial juniper]

Lava maps are cool

Hate dying in 1 picosecond because I touched the tip of my cape on a pool of lava

But still cool

[strong gulch]

I took a break. 🫡

🫡

My modes.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

That's @nocturne dust .

[marble crater]

- Karien

[strong gulch]

lmao

You don't have eula powers

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-eula-blinking-blinking-eyes-stare-gif-26559016

[marble crater]

I only know about her because of Karien

[fierce crest]

end user license agreement

[marble crater]

Different one

[fierce crest]

ergonomic upstanding licorice acquisition

[marble crater]

Ergonomic could fit, yes

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/eula-genshin-eula-genshin-impact-tcg-gif-16811730806608771166

[fierce crest]

https://omegastrikers.wiki.gg/images/Estelle_Rookie_Nameplate_Large.png

[marble crater]

The hell are these names

[fierce crest]

the 3 Bs and okri

[ripe obsidian]

Anyone need another for sub-30 havoc or auric? I wanna try out my current scum build.

[fierce crest]

i think im at 23 rn

[last shore]

what's the current meta infernus h40 build? just curious

i see the tree changed a lot

[ripe obsidian]

I have builds in the pinned guide

[last shore]

there's 50

[ripe obsidian]

But it's shriek or bubble still

[last shore]

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, I have a section on the havoc meta

[fierce crest]

whats the havoc 1 meta

[ripe obsidian]

Do whatever's possible to stay away from your teammates because they will shoot bursters

And lure crusher overheads into you

[fierce crest]

[ripe obsidian]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.w7s1zoypj3x9

[last shore]

which one though

there's a few

[ripe obsidian]

I am pretty sure there's only one inferno + shield build

I think.

[last shore]

it doesn't have talent tree, at least, not what I can see

[ripe obsidian]

lemme change it slightly

remove JaD

I hate that node.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, that is a reference list

You use it to go to the build section.

[fierce crest]

and then the builds are above

yeah

[maiden crystal]

Bubble knight go hard

[fierce crest]

is it worth to run rending trauma bubble if you have an inferno already with bubble

or would shriek be better in that case

[ripe obsidian]

I think the Inferno person should go Shriek

I tend not to like splitting soulblaze between two people

[fierce crest]

i see i see

[ripe obsidian]

Since the soulblaze is assigned to the first person who put it down

[last shore]

is the 50% tdr new in bubble? I don't remember that being there? also, i'm thinking of taking KD (kinetic deflection), what do you suggest dropping for it?

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, the reduction has been there. It's just only when the bubble ends.

As for KD, I'd probably drop Vulnerable Minds and... I guess Warp Ghost or Empyric Resolve. Depends on how well you manage peril. If you can manage it well, drop ER. If you struggle with it, drop Warp Ghost.

Not a lot of other nodes you can give up

[last shore]

ah hard to give up vulnerable minds

[ripe obsidian]

It is

But other nodes are harder to give up

[royal totem]

i can't give up KR

[ripe obsidian]

KD is a 2-node tax now, since it's a melee small node below it instead of crit

I don't much feel the need for KD anymore, since the stamina small node leading to warp rider + warp ghost give so much

The only exception is when a daemonhost targets me. Then I just die.

[last shore]

in the guide

you say immaterial focus is a goated node (blue)

but it's not taken at all in the tree img

[ripe obsidian]

This is true

I think Immaterial Focus is a very strong node

I should probably make it yellow for that build

[last shore]

so why isn't it in the meta tree img? just curious

weaker than EE?

[ripe obsidian]

It was taken in previous iterations of the build. It is weaker than EE, and I found that I was only getting 15%ish uptime on the stun resist

[last shore]

I see

[ripe obsidian]

It's a lot better with Scrier's Gaze builds

I'll make it yellow in the shield build. Bear with me

[long wharf]

everything is weaker than EE for survivability

[last shore]

funny enough, before I asked about meta builds, the SG build below it was what I came up with

[long wharf]

honestly, if a build doesn't take EE, there's something wrong

[ripe obsidian]

Modified shield template & added change to changelog

[zealous wing]

if its a build not based on crit

also im kinda dead inside now

[long wharf]

what kind of build are you running that doesn't want crits?

[zealous wing]

played some mid havocs

there was an inferno there ( i was gonna run inferno shriek)

inferno bubble

dueling sword

[last shore]

same perks/blessings on flame staff as before the buff, I''m guessing?

[zealous wing]

i check his build

im fucking sobbing

then, he gets warp battery mid-run and it makes more sense

i dont have scoreboard but i am fairly sure i killed more lessers 😭

so glad it was lowmid havoc not like, mid-upper 20s

[zealous wing]

rending trauma

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, Nexus + Blaze, Flak + Unyield/Crit chance

[zealous wing]

like, if i get crit cool

but its not enough to rely on ee for it

[ripe obsidian]

Bless me with this horror

[zealous wing]

dom gave me the build, blame him

[last shore]

DS got a parry, I see

💀

[zealous wing]

oh i thought you meant me

hang on lemme see if hes online still

like it wasnt HORRIBLE but it definitely made me go "oh no"

[long wharf]

well that's true

but that doesn't negate taking EE

[zealous wing]

like, it could function but

[long wharf]

just means you're getting it a lot less

[ripe obsidian]

It's pretty decent. I have tried using DS on Vet, but I miss the Power Sword too much. I only really use it on Zealot now

[long wharf]

it can still be a life saver

[last shore]

what's the melee on infernus psyker these days

[zealous wing]

obscurus or deimos

[ripe obsidian]

The third image doesn't offend my sensibilities.

[zealous wing]

it does for me

warp ghost, AND peril quelling talents, makes no sense to meeeee

like i get wnting to minimise peril gen for bubble sake

[ripe obsidian]

I mean

[woven patrol]

What's a good way to farm weapons? Just keep running Auric or? I'm stuck trying to upgrade and find better stats, and I'm not to sure what I'm looking for.

[ripe obsidian]

It's the quell talent or the coherency talent

One is garbage and one has some use

[zealous wing]

brunts armoury, auric missions for ordo