psyker-class

[ionic gale]

yea ill try that

[wraith sphinx]

or laspistol if you want to use fgs

[zealous wing]

or reconlas

[zinc phoenix]

A lot of people like knife, stam curio and stam regen minor for psyker

It lets you play very fast and mobile

[strong gulch]

When I see modders thank one another for helping work on their mod, I get such a warm feeling.

[main wyvern]

Psyker my beloved

[plucky flax]

Its best class by far

[royal totem]

the dump for spearhead boltgun is mobility right?

[plucky flax]

Give me psyker 2

[royal totem]

or do i dump collat?

@plucky flax do you like psyker more than hive scum?

[plucky flax]

Of course.

[royal totem]

fair.

[sturdy reef]

smite reworked to melee ability

[plucky flax]

No class has as cool a weapon as fgs mk6

[summer prairie]

Shiv crab walk with the dodge nodes is pretty ridiculous

So fast and you get the dodges back almost instantly

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-jump-go-for-it-gif-13604839

I asked Kuli if he knows where the code for barrelsploding is. I can't find it

Show build pls. I think toxin/support is what interests me most. I love DoTs in every game. Is why I play driller in DRG

[sturdy reef]

just do str stimm path

stack toxins

ez money

[weary crane]

The only problem I have with toxins is the lack of CC

[sturdy reef]

scummer doesnt really have CC outside of blinder

[weary crane]

DoTs are great when the enemy is stunned

But yeah apart from blackout

A trapper could net before it dies

[sturdy reef]

just get more smoke vets

always the answer

[weary crane]

Well yeah I think hivescum is seen as weak because it relys on teammates more

Lmao I was just rejected as a clearance 40 true survivor hive scum

On a 36 game

[sturdy reef]

ppl already at clearance 40 again

[royal totem]

i mean

it's reasonable

[sturdy reef]

smh

I still need to grind back, just been playing scummer

[royal totem]

because you can have clearance 40 from another class and true survivor played on another class and then be using that to get your hive scum in

like you can say here you cleared it as hive scum

but a random party doesn't know and probs doesn't want to risk it

[sturdy reef]

I think scummer is more useful than arby

best part of arby is dog

if the vox ability arbites has was better like increased range and duration I'd play it as a support

[zinc phoenix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a085bdbf-209f-4325-ad9b-fb23b79e7020/chem-support-concept

done a few maels with it, lots of fun

you have solid everything but arent top anywhere

[ripe obsidian]

Disagree. Arby offers more control and support than Scum

[zinc phoenix]

melee is important b/c it recharges the stim which gives you the bag back

mixing mode btw brittle and tox on the saw is a big deal, brittle bosses and sometimes brittle cara depending on the team

you still get tox on crit when in brittle but it can help to use aoe needle to precoat everything

bag is very good in a more stationary team with the current setup but linger is better for a mobile team

can drop the crit minor for it for sure without losing anything, its just "what will the team use better"

ugh i clicked the wrong minor node in the build editor, its practiced deployment not the linger one

chem nade is the huge money button wave clear but the melee is again pretty solid b/c of the keystone

[ripe obsidian]

I was about to say, no insta-refill node?

[zinc phoenix]

i fixed it 😂

[ripe obsidian]

Also, no Punching Above One's Weight?

I guess cleave focus to spread more toxin

@strong gulch Kuli has enlightened me.

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/622281b0c035959d2a1e3e9108712515672d26f9/scripts/utilities/attack/explosion.lua#L88-L90

if close_radius > 0 and target_destructibles th

So it's only the inner radius now.

This should be for all explosives, not just Voidblast.

[royal totem]

Anybody playing ltr?

Or is it a more yaptide kinda day

[ripe obsidian]

Also, I wish my Scum could wear a damn shirt without paying for it

[royal totem]

LOL

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

removes shirtless bug
removes shirtless mod
PAID SHIRTLESS
paid shirt

[ripe obsidian]

I was thinking that exact thing earlier

[strong gulch]

Gotcha and thanks.

[weary crane]

I was playing hive scum on havoc

Ran out of ammo with rampage build

Gunners pinned me down

Can't even peak for 0.001 seconds

[ripe obsidian]

Yellow stimmed gunners or final toll gunners?

[ripe obsidian]

This is probably what I will end up wearing once I finish the relevant penances

[weary crane]

Idk I couldn't even look

💀

[strong gulch]

plot twist

it was stalkers and their cracked volley

[ripe obsidian]

Yellow stim:

• Yellow stimm effects:
• Increases weakspot damage taken by 4x
• Reduces ADMs by 0.35 for all armour types
• 30% ranged attack speed increase
• 5x shots fired in a volley
• 30% melee attack speed

And I think final toll is a 25% attack speed increase

[royal totem]

10 reapers :3

[ripe obsidian]

Yellow stim is probably the most dangerous one now

[royal totem]

Red ragers still scary imo

[ripe obsidian]

Blue is annoying but not an issue since you can stagger them now. Green is also annoying, but kinda the same as blue. Red can be dangerous on ragers.

A red rager is less likely to delete me than a yellow reaper or gunner

[strong gulch]

@zealous wing This was my perspective when you told me I got overheaded by a crusher yesterday.

[weary crane]

I even have 2 gunner resistance curios

Still died in less than a second

[ripe obsidian]

Time to swap to 3

You'd live approximately 25% longer :D

So another quarter second!

[royal totem]

What's living? I just die

[strong gulch]

Just get the right kind of lag and become immortal.

[ripe obsidian]

Have you seen the movie Being John Malkovich?

Just reenact that, but with Ainz or JSat or someone

[inland gate]

Best build for psyker?

[ripe obsidian]

What difficulty?

Also, check the pinssssssssssssssssss

[tulip kettle]

CircumstanceFix - Obsolete
ClaimAllPenances
CrosshairHUD - Temp fix (⁠mod-bugs⁠)
Extended Weapon Customization
kill_tracker - temp fix ⁠using-mods⁠
NumericUI - temp fix (⁠Mods broken in No Man's Land⁠)
Ovenproof_Scoreboard_Plugin - temp fix (⁠mod-bugs⁠)
Scoreboard - temp fix (⁠using-mods⁠)
testing_utilities
Tap2Dodge

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19r4tquSQf8DjsVMStrUek6aqItRjmjrx/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xLIPDLo8kxLIy5x1W6-kXeWpOj620mu5?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NjtjxJY5J7WpuvN339x29d1CLeCSqwN7?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1iBcXvZjASdzjVPy0CTZmnQJHDH7af7-2?usp=drive_link

apply these fixes and disable any others from the list

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/_NbTxz9hmBo

[inland gate]

auric/havoc, the pins dont really mention builds

[strong gulch]

yes it does

2nd one

[inland gate]

im blind, ty

[royal totem]

And when it catches up u ded

[strong gulch]

lmao it sure did

[ripe obsidian]

Ping me if you have questions about the contents

[royal totem]

Ping me instead so i can ping Six right after 😏

[royal totem]

It was horrible. I died 2 times in 1 round earlier

Got sploded by 2 bursters at once

[ripe obsidian]

Huh. The healthbars mod, even when not displaying anything, tanks my FPS by 20-30 in the psykhanium

[royal totem]

Uh oh

Does that mean i shouldnt use?

[strong gulch]

When you get netted and 2 seconds later the trapper materializes in front of you just standing there.

[ripe obsidian]

I don't use it in-game, I only use it for testing

[strong gulch]

After you get rescued, she does the catch animation.

[ripe obsidian]

Right now I am going through mods to see which are affecting performance

[royal totem]

Why no in game

[ripe obsidian]

Too cheaty

[royal totem]

I use more cheaty mods

[ripe obsidian]

The cheatiest mods I use in-game are debuff indicator and danger zone

[royal totem]

I use THAT one mod

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-end-of-watch-gun-police-locker-gif-2890356977248089443

[ripe obsidian]

Which?

Debuff indicator also steals 10 FPS, but I am not willing to turn that off

[royal totem]

psykernautics

[ripe obsidian]

Never heard of it

[royal totem]

it's basically permanent execution order except on every special

[ripe obsidian]

Eh, if it makes the game more fun for you

Go for it

Doesn't impact me

Well, shit, markers_aio also has a 20 FPS hit

I quite like that one

[weary crane]

You don't memorize every debuff applied instead ?

[ripe obsidian]

My Beloved does that for me, but he loses track

[gray juniper]

They should make the game more lore accurate overloads. If you’re on your last wound and die, a random warp entity replaces you

Idk I’m just spitballing solutions against bubble slaving in havocs :^)

[woven patrol]

I've been having alot of fun with Scriers gaze and empowered psyionics with lightning....never have to let go 😈

[gray juniper]

Yea it’s pretty good. I’ve found myself getting carried away with only one half of the weapon options when I use something like that though. Others do it better

[tulip kettle]

its gross and bad and you should feel bad.

[ripe obsidian]

I think I just need to turn off markers_aio. The FPS impact is ridiculous, even with everything except ammo/med turned off

[marble crater]

Smite mentioned

[gray juniper]

I thought he was talking about electrostaff. Bad very bad indeed

[quiet inlet]

See, this makes sense now. Perfectly clear

[strong gulch]

They said it's fixed. So totally fixed.

[woven patrol]

It ain't about power, it's aboot control

..whow..hold up, people don't like smite anymore?? What happened the few years I've been gone?

[woven patrol]

But why though?

[strong gulch]

A lot of us have been meh about smite for a long time.

Basically since its launch.

[woven patrol]

..oh..bummer

[strong gulch]

If you like it, then go for it.

[woven patrol]

Oh yea I ain't worried. I gotta show everyone....

Lest my beloved won't leave me

[strong gulch]

There's different ways to use it, but often it's a smyker who wields it badly and makes the game meh to play.

A smyker basically holds smite the whole time.

[woven patrol]

Damn I thought that was the point? If everything smite touches takes 10% more dmg then why wouldn't we use that? +200% more with empowerd psy.

[strong gulch]

Smite can be a very strong tool. However...

Smite is often misused and has a big impact on other player's experiences. If it's used to perma stun enemies so people don't get to play and those enemies are CCed in a bad position or spread out or if you are slowing the team down by lagging behind just stunning stuff, people will leave the game, barrel you, not res you, etc. The CC also doesn't allow "on dodge" blessings and talents to function for you or your teammates. Parry is also out.

Because of the way Smite ticks and spreads, it's very good at getting the last bit of damage of an enemy's health even if other players did most of the damage. It also is an enabler for the rest of the psyker's kit and snowballs A LOT. So the way it scales in high density with little effort is absurd.

A lot of smite users also don't learn how to dodge or manage CC immune enemies.

A culture of lobby or mission dodging smykers has formed because of this.

But again, if you like smite. Use it.

[woven patrol]

Granted, I wouldn't use smite for the train misson. But I get it

[strong gulch]

Just be aware.

[woven patrol]

...but that sucks, don't mind if my kills get swipped if we're all making progress.
Is coherence still an issue for people?

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah. People used to scream about being in coherency.

It's more lax now.

[royal totem]

vets without field improv

useless

[strong gulch]

The game sends shit after you in you're alone. It matters more in havocs.

[winter coyote]

i wonder if the smitekers know if theres other buttons besides smite

[strong gulch]

If it's aurics and every is decent, then people just run around and it's fine.

[fiery stratus]

The truth about smite is that its normally fun for a short period, but the novelty wears off pretty quickly for 99% of people.

[woven patrol]

I havnt tried the new havoc stuff yet.

[woven patrol]

Yea of course, you got to charge it...then release it

[royal totem]

anybody want to loan me an ear and let me rant a second?

i'll take that as a no. what a shame

[woven patrol]

I'm at work but I can read

[weary crane]

I don't think smite is good at all in havoc. It doesn't stagger muties, bosses, red stimmed and final toll, it doesn't deal with ranged and it doesn't deal a lot of damage (which is psykers main purpose)

It's only upside imo is the fact it can chain to bursters and burst them far away from your team

[royal totem]

smite has killed me when somebody used it before cuz it touched a burster i was going to push and ....... gg

.......maybe i should stop playing DT for now

it's making me REALLY REALLY mad

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/mutant-darktide-warhammer-40k-abuse-gif-17199671288688860755

[woven patrol]

Ah damn, I've had a few barrels and bursters pop on me as well. We should play together and bridge the gaps

[royal totem]

i don't understand what's happening here but it looks funny

[woven patrol]

That's a good point, I havnt tried havoc yet.

[weary crane]

Muties can just full on grab you from the side

[woven patrol]

..hmm...smite could have stopped him...

[royal totem]

ah yeah 🙁 gross

[royal totem]

are you EU or NA? NA i assume

[woven patrol]

I'm NA

[weary crane]

I'm EU if you want a carry

[royal totem]

i play a lot on EU lul

but i'm actually NA W

on an unrelated note, i keep crashing in the morningstar

[woven patrol]

Her'omph good sirs, I shan't need a carry. But I would like to try it, I'll reach out later 👍🏻

[royal totem]

i can carry havoc......... 1 😏

[weary crane]

I wonder what my true lvl is now

I never use mods

Prolly like 2000 on my psuker

This was the first character I created on darktide and been my main

Back with the old talent tree

And when soulblaze was called agony

[royal totem]

@ripe obsidian meant to respond but i forgot. (ADHD brain) but it's cuz my brain doesn't process sound correctly so without it i literally can never tell where any special or thing is coming from. so without it the game for me is a "dodge in a direction and pray it's the correct one" which is not a very fun game to play when that's all you can do

people think like oh it's some super ez mode thing or something. but even with psykernautics i don't know where a number of specials are coming from. it just makes it so i know where more are coming from. 🙁 it's essentially just erasing my natural handicap

[wintry steeple]

anyone willing to help with pick n mix and the 50 percent monstrosity brain burst pennance?

[weary crane]

Huh, I was lvl 536 like a year ago

I guess more and more xp is required

[zealous wing]

i think it still counts from 29-30

[royal totem]

it's so ass that chaos spawn can just throw you off ledges

[cunning crown]

baby question: what are the sources of Soulblaze apart from Perilous Combustion?

[weary crane]

Wildfire, inferno staff, melee talent

And creeping flames

[cunning crown]

ty, which melee talent is that?

ah, Blazing Spirit?

[weary crane]

Yeah

It's ass so don't use it

[zealous wing]

never put it on melee, yeah

genuinely not worth it

[cunning crown]

gotcha ty

[zealous wing]

it can go on a trauma stave tho for great effect

[strong gulch]

The only thing blazing spirit is good on is on VB.

[cunning crown]

oh it's not just melee, i see

the best source for soulblaze is probably the staff, then?

[zealous wing]

yup, both trauma and inferno

inferno being the best of the two

(all it does is soulblaze)

[cunning crown]

Excellent

Is wildfire as good as I think it is for crowd control and spreading soulblaze debuffs?

[wheat seal]

the reason why I stop play darktide:

[cunning crown]

SEA is pretty full on weekday nights

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is good. The more SB sources the better.

It extends range, precooks / faster app, feeds IFR and souldrinker, and boosts the KF and PC interactions.

So take it for inferno, fire VB, shriek builds, etc.

Don't take it if your only SB source is PC.

[zealous wing]

wildfire top tier talent for a fire build

[strong gulch]

Also not the SB is a DoT and not a debuff.

[zealous wing]

dom took wildfire off to work around the recently patched bug, and it was NOTICABLE how slow stuff died compared to usual

[cunning crown]

i cannot remember the name for the life of me but there is a talent that applies a +damage taken debuff to enemies who have SB

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is that thing that pushes other talents to wipe out stuff that you don't even see yet. Background snipers and that pack of shotgunners get deaded thanks to wildfire being a catalyst.

[cunning crown]

Excellent, i'm on the right track then

Ty

[strong gulch]

Are you thinking of VT2?

[zealous wing]

probably, there is no SB debuff here

[cunning crown]

Could have sworn i saw it in the psyker tree just now, i will check in a minute

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not judging. Play how you want to play. Is a game, is meant to be fun

[ripe obsidian]

Empyric Shock? Is not soulblaze, though, is enemies hit with a staff LMB

[strong gulch]

Ye. Empyric shock is a debuff.

[cunning crown]

looks like i've totally misremembered whatever it was lmfao

i cannot find it again T_T

do Soulblaze kills count as Warp Kills for the purpose of something like Soulstealer?

[strong gulch]

I forgot that I made it green on debuff indicator.

When I was assigning tonix a color, I was at a slight loss because I wanted to make it green. I settled on yellow. Kinda obvious pick.

[strong gulch]

yes

[cunning crown]

ty

[zealous wing]

you could have also seen warp rupture when looking at the other shriek upgrade

it doesnt apply to soul blaze but it is an aoe debuff (not as helpful as creeping flames though)

i honestly wish they'd have kept it as flat damage

[strong gulch]

Enfeeble exists, but that is a smite node.

[zealous wing]

build yourself up to 100% with warp rider, make rupture work with said peril increase of damage, and actually have a horde delete shriek with a specifcally non-fire staff build couldve been useful

let me scream for 500 dmg + aoe stagger, i'd find a way to make it work. only 100 dmg tho, not really useful

[wooden sand]

Because you can't find people on your server?

Just change it to USA

[strong gulch]

Could maybe be an even stronger stagger than shriek and applies team buff and enemy debuff based on peril or something.

Or maybe it could collect damage taken and then cast when the player hits their ability. Let JaD fuel it or soemthing.

[wheat seal]

there is no blessing recommendation on the gdoc? (one who's pin in the channel)

[wheat seal]

curios*

[sudden marsh]

Hi. I'm new to psyker, what is the difference between the two psyker powers? Which is most powerful? Is it crowd control or single target?

[zealous wing]

which ones, shriek and scriers?

[sudden marsh]

Sorry I don't even know the names.. down dpad the L2 (lock on) R2 @zealous wing

[zealous wing]

uh

@marble crater you available?

meanwhile, im not familiar with console controls

what happens

oh wait a moment

is this the blitz? you pull out your hands and it highlights an enemys head?

[sudden marsh]

Yes blitz that's it! What is option 1 lock on, option 2 different, why are there two?

[zealous wing]

ok, brain burst. they both do the same damage, but one locks on, good for grabbing a fleeing target. the other is a preemptive charge, so you can be ready to pop or lock on to a target you know is coming but you cant see yet

[sudden marsh]

So they are single target DMG only? Could you please explain a little better by what you mean by use preemptive charge?

[zealous wing]

they are single target, yes. preemptive charge, i mean you can charge the ability before you lock on to an enemy to be ready to damage it when you see it

[astral finch]

Here's an odd question; Does Warp Splitting affect Smite, and if so, how?

[zealous wing]

lmao, no

smite doesnt cleave

[astral finch]

I mean, thats what I FIGURED, but I've been wrong before lol

[zealous wing]

fair enough

assail cleaves tho

[sudden marsh]

So your hands charge and you can just point at a target and it will fire, or do you point and let go? Any new player guides on how to use Psyker anywhere?

[mighty cipher]

Playing event heresy with a full support Psyker setup and trying desperately to keep your Shitass teammates alive for deathless contracts is unironically kinda fun.

[zealous wing]

yeah you just hold it and it will automatically apply the damage once its charged fully on the target. as for how to guides, i dont think the build guide in pins has a proper "how to psyker", but its important to know it exists so you can try builds once you hit lvl30 if you want to try specific things

basic how to psyker is:

1. try to not get hit
2. use assail while leveling up when you can
3. dont use staffs until you get to lvl 25 at least, preferably lvl 30, otherwise they'll feel weak or you might explode more
4. the ability you start with (shriek) will save you from exploding if you pass 100% peril
   and most importantly,
   5)feel free to ask for help here if you have any question at all

there are very few actually dumb questions, and those only come from people who really should know better.

[mighty cipher]

Your Primary charge is faster but you need to already be looking at a valid target for it to charge. If that target dies you lose all of your charge. It also won’t blow you up unless you start charging at 98%+ even if it fires at 100%

The second can be pre-charged, WILL blow you up if you fire at 100%, and is slightly slower. You can switch between the two but that’s kinda complicated.

[zealous wing]

its not actually complicated, you press the lock on trigger once you see the target, and dont release the charge trigger until you know you've locked on

[wheat seal]

the actual event is just the new map?

[zealous wing]

early psyker can be a struggle, assail is a good blitz due to low skill floor and can be used to great skill as well later on

[strong gulch]

It's single target damage.

[wheat seal]

didn't play the game since a while, just play a game with assail build, look's nerf so hard

[strong gulch]

oh discord updated lmao

nvm

[zealous wing]

lmao, wdym nerfed

[hollow flame]

Does any one have the clip of the psyker using the flame staff on a horde of crushers then push blocking them to death?

[hollow flame]

Thanks

[sudden marsh]

Thank you very useful

[jovial juniper]

No

Go on the mission board

There'll literally be a mission with EVENT on top of it

There is no way to miss that

[astral finch]

What's the dump stat on the Assault Chainsword? Shredder?

[zealous wing]

actually have no idea

[jovial juniper]

Mobility

[zealous wing]

i hate the chain weapons so much i have learned nothing about them

[strong gulch]

I'd default to the vet guide. Most psykers don't even think chainswords are real.

Game made use one of them on scum. I hated it so much.

[astral finch]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-matter-care-peaceful-laid-gif-22992945

[mighty cipher]

What vet guide?

[strong gulch]

in the vet pins

[dull scroll]

finally back to 40 assign, grind was real
burga my beloved 😌

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[royal totem]

@jovial juniper is spearhead boltgun dump collat or mobi?

[quiet inlet]

thinking to self "I'll quickplay a heresy to help out some of the new scum"
game result:

[royal totem]

new scum are beyond redemption

the Emperor does not love them 😡

[strong gulch]

A couple seconds later I hear, "How ya doing baby?"

Idk how, but when ninja plays alone he gets all of the weird talky people.

[royal totem]

i've been playing alone

[strong gulch]

Oh I'm mistaken. I have been corrected. It was "How ya doing big guy?"

Less weird. 🙏

[royal totem]

much less weird lmao

playing alone helps feed my anger

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[royal totem]

my scum is named Toxic

just like me 🙂

[zealous wing]

well i was gonna but :(

i cant decide what to play tbh

i wish FS added an event opt-out for QP like they did for campaign

i cant keep dealing with cranial when i run assail

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/bouncing-around-spongebob-squidward-spongebob-squarepants-flying-around-gif-27130552

[zealous wing]

how it feels irl ngl

also honestly glad they fixed the trees, i didnt have to fix most of them myself

i also didnt think they would, so, pleasant surprise earlier

[gray juniper]

What’s the event award?

[zealous wing]

insignia

[gray juniper]

Haha ofc

Ty btw

[quiet inlet]

and aquilas

[gray juniper]

Stop lying

[zealous wing]

500

[gray juniper]

Wow I have to play soon

[verbal thistle]

wha

[tulip kettle]

i guess on your left?

sounds like it

[zealous wing]

overheaded

[verbal thistle]

agro swapped from the toxin dot....

[mossy hazel]

So, almost 30. Leveled mostly with the new Psyker build in the pins which means Assail. Love it.

But I’m trying to get a better understanding of the other options. Is there a time I want to run Brain Burst or Lightning? Is it just subjective or are there certain situations where I’d lean one way or another?

[zealous wing]

BB will normally be part of a staff builds kit, not always but usually. smite is definitely a "wait until youre already good at psyker before attempting" or it will teach you really bad habits

[lone ravine]

Brain burst is good in general as a free instant burst of dmg with kinetic flayer on any build

[mighty cipher]

It’s also good for saving questionable players

[tulip kettle]

its more that each blitz serves a different purpose, and you usually choose one to round out the things your build otherwise lacks.

BB is generally the weakest of the 3 at a baseline

smite is often useless and teaches bad habits

assail is very 1 dimensional in that it mainly is used to improve horde clearing

[woven patrol]

...then there's smite....

[tulip kettle]

i said smite

[zealous wing]

smite is often useless and teaches bad habits

[tulip kettle]

smite is "i could do literally anything else and kill this stuff faster and more efficiently"

"also as soon as i dont have this or cant use it due to the game state (a cspawn is bullying me) i will just die immediately"

[woven patrol]

Smite killed my dad.

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-fast-eating-eat-gif-25232258

[woven patrol]

Like what? I am genuinely curious.

[royal totem]

you don't really learn dodging, avoiding damage. cover. mechanics etc. also, one problem with smite is oftentimes the room is smited.......then a boss comes and deletes the psyker. suddenly the whole room is active and everything is trying to kill the team

[zealous wing]

or you stun the wrong areas, and suddenly your teammate literally cant move. then you die, or stop smiting, and that teammate who couldnt reposition now dies because they couldnt kill the crushers in time.

[orchid cypress]

There is the argument that because its a team game if the team fails to kill the boss its their fault not the smiters

[royal totem]

bad arguement

because of how boss targeting works

[orchid cypress]

well considering every class in the game apart from HS has a boss deletion build.

[tulip kettle]

man just said

[woven patrol]

It honestly just sounds like a bad player, and watching some videos and streams of ppl smiting on low difficulty then yea that's boring as as heck

[tulip kettle]

apart from hive scum

nd also, thats just 1 example

you also lower your teams dps

[orchid cypress]

compared to the other classes hive scum kinda sucks for it

[orchid cypress]

smite psykers consistantly have the most dps???

[tulip kettle]

lol

lmao, even

i think you dont understand what im saying at all

[woven patrol]

What? You hitting a smite target gives you 10% more damage??
That doesn't sound right

[tulip kettle]

and no, hive scum does not suck for it

my guy

you know those talents that say "on dodge, get x"?

those dont work any more

thos etalents that say "when you hit x enemies"?

[orchid cypress]

HS is the worst class in the game, legit everything it dose is done better on other classes

[tulip kettle]

they dont work any more

LMAO

[lone ravine]

You’re putting down your own DPS for 10% of your team

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-simply-a-difference-in-skill-frog-dancing-skill-gif-21877908

[orchid cypress]

giga cope right here

[tulip kettle]

you yourself have less dps, and you lower your teams dps

smite bad

[orchid cypress]

sounds like youre the one with the skill issue here

[woven patrol]

Is that really what it means? Or I'm reading it wrong.
Targets effected by smite take 10% more damage right?

[orchid cypress]

yes thats exactly what it dose.

[lone ravine]

You are getting rid of your primary DPS for smites inherently bad DPS just to give your team 10% more

and psyker is dang strong

[tulip kettle]

yes, and so? you yourself are doing less damage than any other option

and also

[tulip kettle]

you give your team 10% increased dmg against the smited enemies

[lone ravine]

only while you’re smiting

[tulip kettle]

but disable all their talents like "+25% damage on dodge"

so....

and also make sure the enemies stay spaced out everywhere

[orchid cypress]

or you just let the team get a doge in before you smite

[tulip kettle]

and also dont learn how to deal with enemies

[orchid cypress]

its a TEAM game

[tulip kettle]

omfg shut up man

[orchid cypress]

learn to communicate

[mighty cipher]

The only time that would be useful is something like helping out a Stealot in trying to oneshot a monster

[orchid cypress]

amazing argument

[tulip kettle]

just not worth engaging with

[orchid cypress]

you havnt said one good argument yet. then retaliate with teh "shut up"

[woven patrol]

So like you prevent the party from getting there dodge buffs, just so they can get 10% damage increase

[lone ravine]

Yea if you’re smiting, they can’t attack and can’t trigger any dodge buffs people have

[orchid cypress]

assuming youre playing psyker just wait like 5-10 secconds to let team dodge

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/willj-oprah-oprah-winfrey-winfrey-you-get-a-car-gif-17226018224028229381

[lone ravine]

if you’re smiting why would you wait though

The point of smite is to CC

[tulip kettle]

and also, as i said, you stop the enemies condensing

so significantly lower aoe dps

[woven patrol]

Oh bro I know, I've been playing with friends on Auric difficulty and we've been fine.

[tulip kettle]

and also, do nothing vs bosses

[orchid cypress]

yeah cc, if you wait like 5 secconds to get your team the buffs they need, its fine

[tulip kettle]

and also, arent just killing stuff

[orchid cypress]

same, my smite psykers my main on havoc 30 ish rn

[tulip kettle]

LMAO

oh thats gold

[lone ravine]

I think I just learned all I need to now

yea uhh agree to disagree your playstyle your choice im out

[mossy hazel]

:/

[orchid cypress]

Suit yourself.

[orchid cypress]

what happend to blocking me eh

[mossy hazel]

what have I done

🧨

[orchid cypress]

only time i dont take it is with final toll because obvious reasons

[royal totem]

ok i don't know if you're being duplicitous or dense

the thing is boss deletion builds come with lots of tradeoffs

[orchid cypress]

then i take either flame staff or assail

[royal totem]

and to expect other people to have to take it is kinda ass unless you are running a premade team

in addition there are twins

and captains

with shields that can't be simply "deleted"

[orchid cypress]

legit just type in pregame lobby. "anyone got boss dmg" problem sorted

i have NEVER had an issue with that before.

[acoustic jacinth]

Smite son or chorus daughter

[orchid cypress]

acutally no

[woven patrol]

It's like yea Smits cool, not the ability I play but genuinely curious about the gatekeeping

[orchid cypress]

there was one or two times where somones "boss build" was just High dps weapons.

[orchid cypress]

smite just giga helps the team in like 90% of situations depending on how you use it

the "meta" is still flame staff scries

[royal totem]

i have literally seen that issue a ton of times

[orchid cypress]

what issue

[royal totem]

congrats on being lucky enough your teams always have boss damage

but the reality is, lots do not

[acoustic jacinth]

Inferno scrier's @tulip kettle

[orchid cypress]

out of curiosity whats your regular game mode?

[royal totem]

havoc lol

[orchid cypress]

i dont know why i said scries actually

just realised that

i mean the bubble i forgot its actual name

[woven patrol]

Like saying it's a drop in dps, but also using the shield for toughness buffs is like 🤷‍♂️

[orchid cypress]

telekinetic shield i think

[acoustic jacinth]

Scrier's is not bad by any means but paired with inferno or smite i am listing every slur in the team chat

[orchid cypress]

what level?

[royal totem]

generally high 20s sometimes low 30s

[orchid cypress]

ah ok that might explain it

the early havoc 1-19s are mostly full of people who just unlocked it

so they might not have havoc ready builds yet

some break through into 20s

but anything above 25 is just unluck

[royal totem]

i mean here's the thing

your experience of being so lucky you must realize

is not representative of the community

and there are plenty of players i talk to in 30s that find players completely unready for it

or they bait you into accepting with one build

then bait and switch you

[orchid cypress]

are you queuing with the devil or something?

[royal totem]

nope. i'm just playing PF

[orchid cypress]

i dont recall a play ever switiching buid before.

like maliciously i mean

[lone ravine]

People queue into havoc just to quit once game launches do you think people won’t build swap

[royal totem]

i have encountered a good number that have bait and switched builds

[orchid cypress]

you play pc or console?

[royal totem]

"i'm a shout vet" turns into infiltrate on the mission readying screen

PC

[orchid cypress]

with crossplay on or off?

[royal totem]

i'm not rich enough to play on console

idk whatever default is

[orchid cypress]

i play mostly no crossplay console

its probably just placebo

[royal totem]

dont even get me started on the quitters

[orchid cypress]

but it seems like i get better teamates that like

people who quit at like any inconvienece deserve the death penalty

most people DC within the first 5 minutes it seems.

[royal totem]

it's one thing to DC and come back. game servers suck so i get it. but another to leave and just disappear

[orchid cypress]

also, has the games connection been funky for anyone else recently?

ive been lagging alot more than usual. like not DC lag but input delay and rubber banding

[woven patrol]

Is that recent? Like, they don't activate on dodge?
What do they activate on now?

[royal totem]

i've been crashing a lot more in morningstar since patch

even when i ran unmodded for days it would just crash

now that it's modded it crashes too

[fiery stratus]

turn off scoreboard or numeric ui if you have them

those are one of the main ones causing issues atm

[orchid cypress]

didnt they fix that in the hot fix?

[royal totem]

on dodge.but since you are stunning everything...... they can't actually dodge cuz it only activates when they dodge a blow

[fiery stratus]

probably but i havent bothered

[royal totem]

i have neither

[fiery stratus]

fatshark will probably have 2-3 hotfixes of its own over the next week or so if i had to guess

so itll just break again most likely

[royal totem]

yesterday (before i turned on mods) i had like 5 crashes just standing in the morningstar

[fiery stratus]

did you update modloader and framework

[royal totem]

at that time no

[fiery stratus]

could be that too

[orchid cypress]

completely wrong game nvm

[royal totem]

i mean, i just started mods today and i'm crashing again (and i did update those today)

idk

game sucks for stability

[orchid cypress]

at least it isnt dbd levels of bad

[fiery stratus]

i havent had any crashes since i got rid of my problem mods and updated everything

scoreboard was crashing me every game i loaded in

[royal totem]

hard to be THAT bad

[woven patrol]

That seems like such a minor inconvenience for crowd controll

[orchid cypress]

been playing since 2016 trust me i know the pain D:

[royal totem]

for some weapons it's quite a bit more damage so it's more than just an inconvenience

[orchid cypress]

depending on the persons build it is like game ruining

zealot and especially HS specifically come to mind

[royal totem]

i think ffxiv had good servers thinking back on it

[orchid cypress]

but hive scum kinda sucks anyway rn sooo

[orchid cypress]

not played that in ages so idk

[mighty cipher]

Hive scum outputs a fuckton of damage if you don’t suck shit.

[orchid cypress]

what weird build are you running?

[mighty cipher]

I don’t own the class

But I’ve seen first hand people demolishing everything in their path

[orchid cypress]

i feel like ive tried every build under the sun, desperado, crowbar, shivs. ive even turned to the dark side and tried youtber builds.

nothing seems to work

then agian

console dodging is kinda bookie

[mighty cipher]

See the second half of my statement

[royal totem]

i'm having good luck with saw and needle gun melting things with chem grenades

but my build is suboptimal

[orchid cypress]

I tried that and it work up until around havoc 10-12 then it fell off hard

[fiery stratus]

hive scum is a high skill floor class which is purposely designed to be a glass cannon, and yes its probably aids to pilot on controller because you're using a controller

[royal totem]

idk my friend is having good luck with it in havoc 30s so idk what's diff about his build or blessings or such.

[orchid cypress]

the issue is also the amount of effor HS needs to do well is farm more than the other classes who due to this can also be doing better

[royal totem]

i think for the people that do well with it

[fiery stratus]

right its a high floor class

[royal totem]

the "amount of effort required" isn't insane for them

[fiery stratus]

its intentionally designed to be hard to play but have insane damage output

hive scum is right next to psyker with damage potential and a good player

[orchid cypress]

Its just kinda a shame that Zealot and Melee psyker outpreform it in melee and Veteran out preforms it in range.

[fiery stratus]

range of course its more of a run and gun class, vet is meant for percision

zealot isnt stronger

[woven patrol]

You see though that was explained so well instead of getting psyker blocked.

[fiery stratus]

melee psyker is probably right next to it, but even melee psyker gets a lot of free damage from soulblaze

[fiery stratus]

knife zealots lose 110% finesse damage if they can't hit after dodge

even without knife if you run duelist, you lose 50% finesse damage without being able to dodge before the hit

[woven patrol]

Yea, I can take the party setup into account

[royal totem]

I try to explain things well

[woven patrol]

The Zelot I run with uses flamethrower...so it's been working lol

[orchid cypress]

purgation flame is meta for zealot rn isnt it?

or was that a while ago

i kinda stopped using it

[fiery stratus]

sorta

[woven patrol]

Is it, last I played was 2 years ago

[deft stump]

Isn't it's left bumper?

[fiery stratus]

it clears the room in havoc but its kinda narrow for its purpose

[orchid cypress]

no its X base im on playstation but its either X/A

[deft stump]

You never use the default. NEVER.

Alt 1 or alt 5.

[orchid cypress]

console

[deft stump]

Yes.

I use controller.

[fiery stratus]

best way to play this game on controller is with paddles on the back lol

[woven patrol]

Ahh bumper jumper

[deft stump]

Always use the Alt preset

[orchid cypress]

i suffer from "8 year old sister" lat time i had paddles she tore them off

[deft stump]

You still don't want dodge to be Side/Back on left stick+A

[orchid cypress]

ill try LB

[fiery stratus]

this games not really made for controller to begin with tbh

badly designed for it

[orchid cypress]

dosnt help the dodge mechanic in general is coded weirdly

[deft stump]

Verminetide was worse, no Alt presets.

[deft stump]

You should check in the settings for Always dodge and standing dodge and turn those on.

I would check my own settings, but i just quitted.

[orchid cypress]

i have them on already

im trying to find the dodge graph thing

[zinc phoenix]

just had a mael where i threw after an incredible solo clutch in the open 😭

[orchid cypress]

its like you need dodge within 15degrees directly left or right of an attack

[fiery stratus]

yes you have to dodge left or right

dodging backward will get you caught by a lot of things

dogs, trappers, mutants

[royal totem]

crusher overheads potentially

[zinc phoenix]

literally a massive wall of pox, crusher and ragers with two snipers and a mutie in the no gun mael and i managed to ballet thru it massacring all of it to rez all three people

[fiery stratus]

yep

[zinc phoenix]

but after that i was so worn lmao

[orchid cypress]

from the graph it dosnt even count as a doge

[zinc phoenix]

so we get most of the way thru and i blast a burster and down one guy and kill the other

[fiery stratus]

dodging backward counts as a dodge but they can just follow your dodge

[zinc phoenix]

after that it was a slow grind to the end

[deft stump]

Yeah, back dodge is only with Knoife, Shivs or dueling sword.

[zinc phoenix]

my hands are killing me, idk that i can carry a no ammo mael anymore

[fiery stratus]

1000 hours of knife gameplay go brrr

carpal tunnel weee

[orchid cypress]

this thing

[zinc phoenix]

this game is great but age is takin its toll on me lmao

[fiery stratus]

relatively accurate, you basically don't want to dodge backward unless you're pushing a burster, navigating horde, something

[orchid cypress]

it has to be like exactly within those 20 degrees or dosnt count.

[fiery stratus]

but yes dodging back will get you caught by nearly everything

[orchid cypress]

so on console where its a circlular stick its a pain sometimes

[zinc phoenix]

things i will internalize after a billion hours

[deft stump]

Now for shivs?

[fiery stratus]

yeah ive been using them since i hit 30 on scum, they're really good

[orchid cypress]

share you main knife build i wanna compare it to mine rn

[orchid cypress]

might be best melee next to bonesaw (depending on build)

[fiery stratus]

for scum? i just stole coles but give me a sec

[orchid cypress]

zealot i meat the knife build

[fiery stratus]

ahy

ok one sec i have a few i run

[strong gulch]

Shivs are the best at destroying my hands.

[deft stump]

Is 2 knoifes.

Double the stabs.

[orchid cypress]

propa Bri'sh class

[fiery stratus]

honestly the first one isnt AS bad since its mostly heavy attacks, ive been using just keep swinging for light attack clearing

definitely lot clicking still

[strong gulch]

Uncontested. They are #1.

Fork up my hands real good. Go shivs go.

[deft stump]

Gotta fan the trigger lmao.

[fiery stratus]

attack speed probably doesn't help, normally knife attack speed is slower so the rhythm is more intensive

[deft stump]

Or run back to my precious mk6 knoife.

[fiery stratus]

i bet, lot of light spam messes with the hands for sure

[deft stump]

Double aspd stimm knoife is hilarious.

Stimm yourself then drop stimm supply.

Hilarious.

[orchid cypress]

psyker melee is also fun when it works properly

[orchid cypress]

i hate this abbreviation

[deft stump]

Never drop before self stimming or it still eats your stimm.

[orchid cypress]

also dosnt work with chem dependency

which is stupid

[deft stump]

Atkspd.

[orchid cypress]

better

[deft stump]

You don't want dependency with more than 2 nodes on the stimm imo.

Especially if you want the extra stack.

[orchid cypress]

if you have the perk that gives stim charges on kill it aint bad

i have a build that essentially swaps between stim and rampage the entire mission

[deft stump]

Still fighting for kills.

[orchid cypress]

ive not run into alot of issues

[deft stump]

Cos nobody plays at 300+ ping on avg but me for most part.

[orchid cypress]

lol ik that feeling, games been hella laggy

[deft stump]

I have a hard time last hitting with the delay.

[orchid cypress]

i remember my BFGS slashes sometimes just not coming out

[deft stump]

Err, extra then.

To be fair, I think the servers are dying due to you know.

[orchid cypress]

would have happend on Day 1 no? it seems weird.

[fiery stratus]

@orchid cypress https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a0866efa-5977-4a0d-a6e6-35faf3e2ed0d Theres quite a bit of stuff in here thats only ran because its preference for my playstyle, you can mix and match a lot more with the trees these days

[orchid cypress]

😄

[deft stump]

Oh, launch day was a whole 'nother thing.

But is free weekend, I think?

[orchid cypress]

thank you ill try some of these

[orchid cypress]

yeah

still wouldnt that lag in the morningstar not in missions?

[deft stump]

Mourningstar is a server hub. Still connects like 25 ppl into it.

[orchid cypress]

ik i mean in the morningstar im fine

but in missions its like a powerpoint sometimes

[deft stump]

Oh, different servers imo. Also, that's ACTUAL lag. Not ping lag.

[orchid cypress]

i thought it was enemy density at first but it slagging even on uprising

[deft stump]

Game's poorly optimised.

[orchid cypress]

fair

[fiery stratus]

games poorly everything lol

[deft stump]

Is fun, but they really need to find a way to optimise it more.

[deft stump]

Lag and fast weapons is hilarious as well.

Swing so fast the blade is animu tier but hits nothing.

[strong gulch]

I was trying to release FGS special btw. Game said no.

[zealous wing]

i clutched another auric, inferno psyker this time (dom was watching 😭 )

[strong gulch]

Did odd quick things then locked me in a heavy attack animation.

[strong gulch]

proud of you

[zealous wing]

event too, so there was a captain in there somewhere 😭

[royal totem]

i have trouble clutching when there's too many bombers

[deft stump]

You mean trapper sounds.

[dawn parcel]

Hello im a new player, i saw a video where someone was using a weapon while also not having to cycle off from the weapon to use the mind crush ability

is that something you get from your perk tree or is it a specific weapon?

maybe a weapon traot

[tulip kettle]

its a talent called kinetic flayer

[dawn parcel]

trait*

[tulip kettle]

which modifies the base brainburst blitz

they arent controlling what it proc on though, it just procs every 12 seconds

[dawn parcel]

ohh okay

thank you

[sturdy reef]

scoreboard crashing with ammo counters

f

[rotund flower]

I'm running the Inferno/Duelling Sword build, which Duelling sword is best? It doesn't say.

[sturdy reef]

MKIV

[golden remnant]

roughly how many heratics can i take out by exploding my head? Not elites, just the usual scum

[rotund flower]

ty

[royal totem]

this game is too mean 🙁

i got boxed by bursters 🙁

[deft stump]

Normal. 4 bursters on malice is ded ganger.

[nocturne wasp]

@royal totem
You playing? It's my Friday and I'm ready to roll

[royal totem]

no.

[pine tundra]

Whats the best melee for Flame Bubble psyker?

[nocturne wasp]

Okey

[royal totem]

also, are you not a big fan of scum?

[nocturne wasp]

I like them all

[astral finch]

What's up with the Heavy Blade and why is it awful? Lol

[nocturne wasp]

I have my favorites but I try to have one of every kind of build on every class

Love using everything a game can offer

When I played destiny 2 I had over 40 saved builds among my 3 classes

In DCUO I had 9 characters all with at least 3, and may favorites had like 5 or 6

My main had like 12

[nocturne wasp]

It's only good at 1 thing, big sweeps into big crowds. For anything else it's useless.

[jovial juniper]

It kills everything really fast
Except carapace

The thing is

Psyker just has better melees

Because everything psyker is broken

[balmy vortex]

hi, noob here, new to the game im trying to follow a build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df8cf62-74bb-407a-b6ab-b942ad63597d/the-best-psyker-build-rats-trauma-psyker
but no where on that build is the blessings for the weapon buffs

[fierce crest]

these are the blessings for the weapons

[jovial juniper]

Rending trauma but he has uncanny

[royal totem]

fair. i have every single class on DT

least played is ogryn though

[balmy vortex]

oh thanks ! but dont i need to level more than those 2 ( warp flurry + rendering shockwave) to have more point in those 2 ?

[nocturne wasp]

Ogryn was my 1st. Brainburst psyker, lonewolf arb, and taunt ogryn are my fave ways to play so far

[fierce crest]

yeah but it doesnt matter

just level anything so you can unlock more tiers

[balmy vortex]

ok X_x i tought it would mater but shure

[fierce crest]

you eventually have points to max everything

you just pick what you unlock first

[nocturne wasp]

They kind of gate you, you can usually ignore 2 blessings until youre maxed

[balmy vortex]

what would you ignore ?

[fierce crest]

pick 2 randomly

pick 2 that dont sound fun

[nocturne wasp]

Doesn't matter they'll be maxed soon anyways

[tulip kettle]

deimos best weapon for inferno

theres also no real reason to run duelling sword over deimos except a slight increase in mobility and access to agile

[nocturne wasp]

[tulip kettle]

but you lose out on force push which is such a considerable loss that yeah, just run deimos

[nocturne wasp]

I reject ds just bc I hated rapier in vt

It's just brainless lightspam

I mean that can be fun

But not for me

[tulip kettle]

theres a lot of hate for it but its literally fine these days, not OP and often not the best choice

[fierce crest]

dagger is more fun version of that

[tulip kettle]

and its not brainless light spam at all

[fierce crest]

since you go supa fast

[tulip kettle]

except on trash hordes

[fierce crest]

and actually use other moves

[tulip kettle]

which, i mean, is the thing that its worst at

still, on psyker we have deimos so just no real reason for DS

[nocturne wasp]

Ah, that's why I dint vibe with it. I use melee for trash unless Im using an intentionally ranged focused build

[tulip kettle]

well, for melee trash clearing, you cant get better than FGS on psyker really

[nocturne wasp]

Heavy sword does fine too

[tulip kettle]

yeah, plenty of weapons do "fine"

but not even close to the potential of FGS

[royal totem]

i can't get around ogryn slow speed 🙁

[tulip kettle]

and heavy sword doesnt have the added bonus of being great vs armour and bosses too like FGS is

[nocturne wasp]

Okay it does more than fine you can literally just spam left right heavies that clear everything in front of you

[tulip kettle]

it cant instakill 50 poxwalkers at once like FGS can

[nocturne wasp]

Talking about trash clearing

If that's all you need your melee for it's a really good pick

My brain burst build is 99% BB and staff but if I get surrounded by trash the heavy sword I have equipped is perfect

[strong gulch]

all these builds I don't have

[golden remnant]

holy moly

[nocturne wasp]

Vatt zee Fouch

[golden remnant]

i dont know whether im scared or impressed

[nocturne wasp]

Are there even that many functional variations

[strong gulch]

Not even my only psyker like this.

[nocturne wasp]

Do you have a build for every possible combination of weapon and tree?

[golden remnant]

mate, you

are crazy

[nocturne wasp]

Or are they build dupes with different styles?

[nocturne wasp]

You just gotta be patient. Reject the speed run mindset, adopt the "you'll all take this elevator whenever the fuck I say so" mindset

[strong gulch]

There's variations with slight differences or different weapons.

Or if I am with another psyker and auric vs havoc.

[nocturne wasp]

I love it

[royal totem]

i only play with speedrunners apparently so xD

[strong gulch]

same

[royal totem]

btw

what's with all the hive scum speedrunning

and then dying

and like leaving

[nocturne wasp]

Everyone in the game is used to getting toughness back as survival, not avoiding losing it in the first place.

[strong gulch]

The leaving I don't get.

[golden remnant]

whenever i see a hivescum i gotta like lock in cause i know theyll leave 😭

[strong gulch]

The running ahead I get because it's feast or famin toughness gen wise. Gotta hit stuff.

[nocturne wasp]

The leaving is just par for the course for fatty's games as far as I can tell

Been that way since vt

I also think when a class is new and everyone is rushing auric they don't want to lose points so they leave b4 fail

[deft stump]

Is just Stealth Loner Zealot but they die faster.

[royal totem]

i don't leave as hive scumm

[royal totem]

i forgot i could do that

[nocturne wasp]

I've only done it with my summer so far bc I'm impatient but I did it proper with the rest

[deft stump]

They won't man up to their badness.

[golden remnant]

thank you, mate. always appreciate hivescum staying 🫂

[nocturne wasp]

Facts.
I will straight up say "hey sorry I'm boutta die bc I'm trash"
Then Leroy off into the night

[deft stump]

Some do stuff that I rather have a bot giving me ammo return.

[heavy dagger]

psyker on top

[nocturne wasp]

[heavy dagger]

i've had so many leave its sad

[nocturne wasp]

If you send it in a second post it gets bigger

[golden remnant]

no fr its so bad i js expect it atp

[nocturne wasp]

I only leave right b4 fail screen

Otherwise I'm in it till the end. I'm dead? Sound like a toke break while I watch my homies bash some heretics

[heavy dagger]

i want to try out voidblast staff but it looks like inferno is just broken, what do yall think

[golden remnant]

how dare you fail the emperor

[deft stump]

You mean, phone time.

You all have phones, right?

[golden remnant]

i love voidblast and dislike inferno! Try voidblast

[nocturne wasp]

My age starts with a 3

[heavy dagger]

ur fav build? im bored of inferno lmao all i do is watch fire

[nocturne wasp]

Is that a blizzard reference

[deft stump]

No diff. I just open my nonogram app.

[deft stump]

Yes.

[nocturne wasp]

[golden remnant]

voidblast and voidstrike i always get confused with but if we are talking about the one where you spit out globs of warp, yes. My favorite thing to do is just charge up a ball and throw it into the horde.

[heavy dagger]

the real question is does voidblast outperform inferno on AOE and cc

[golden remnant]

favorite thing besdies edging the warp and exploding my head

[heavy dagger]

uhh the one that has the explosions, i think blast

[dull scroll]

damage no cc yes

[golden remnant]

the one that like summons a circle on the ground and explodes i dont particuarly like- also i dunno which staff has the highest dmg and cc, i js love playing that staff 🫶

[heavy dagger]

ah ok you like voidstrike

[heavy dagger]

thx

[golden remnant]

i would log in and confirm this, but my internet is the nine hells 😭

[royal totem]

inferno is easier to play though

but don't let that deter you :3

[heavy dagger]

bett

just need to find a good voidblast build with shriek preferably

[nocturne wasp]

I have a BB build, a voidstaff build, a smyker, an inferno build and a melee build for psyker

[royal totem]

i think that should be in the pins :3

[heavy dagger]

thx

[golden remnant]

how long did building all of them take?

[nocturne wasp]

No idea, I focused in getting godrolls of all weapons before anything else, and got stupid lucky RNG, In 200 hrs I had 1 of everything. Then I just started making any build that I got inspired to on any character

[golden remnant]

the work of a mad man. insane dedication, mate.

[nocturne wasp]

Just check the shop every hour

[deft stump]

You mean, armoury.

[nocturne wasp]

I would be playing other games and see the clock roll over and hop on to check

[nocturne wasp]

Yes

[heavy dagger]

holy shi deimos force sword is strong asf

dont know if i should pick it over DS on voidblast

[deft stump]

Talking about a browser extension lul.

[nocturne wasp]

W0t

[deft stump]

L1 H2 spam.

[deft stump]

Yeah. There's a browser addon that tells you what is in the shop without logging into the game.

I used it for my Arby.

[nocturne wasp]

Lmao that would make it easier

[deft stump]

Too lazy now.

[nocturne wasp]

I've only had to roll for 5 weapons so far, not including on my Scum, but my first roll on Scum was twin stubs 60mob, and I only had to roll like 20 times for a perfect crowbar

[heavy dagger]

for deimos right

[deft stump]

Yes.

[heavy dagger]

thanks

[royal totem]

be like rat and use DS

[nocturne wasp]

Be like Scum and use whatever pisses off elitists

[royal totem]

i mean....you're only gimping yourself if you use bad weapons

but like do feel free

[nocturne wasp]

Do I get a full body gimpsuit?

[royal totem]

sorry. only a shirt 😏

[nocturne wasp]

Honestly do not think there are bad weapons in this game. One thing I really love about it.

[royal totem]

anybody want to do 1-2 quick games of damnation or below?

[nocturne wasp]

The floor is so high

[royal totem]

depends. if you're doing havoc i'd say there's less viable ones for sure

[nocturne wasp]

Less viable but not bad. Definitely better weapons but that does not take from their capabilities,

[royal totem]

but i do think in auric and below anything can work

i mean, there are straight up bad ones in havoc

like twin stuber

mainly cuz havoc has ammo economy issues

but like i think you know what i mean

[nocturne wasp]

I do

Which sucks, my gungryn build uses it

[heavy dagger]

looks strong asf but i have to learn first

[heavy dagger]

his build on gameslantern

[royal totem]

DS is just all thrust and try to thrust into their head

[nocturne wasp]

Fuck learning find a Mark with attack patterns that make you Scum and wild out

[royal totem]

nah his build is hard cuz it's based around a lot of tech

[nocturne wasp]

Jk tho

[heavy dagger]

yea thats what i mean, sm going on

[royal totem]

i couldn't consistently manage it myself

[heavy dagger]

do you think i can replace bubble with shriek on his popular build

[royal totem]

no

but yes

[heavy dagger]

i might as well keep it, i plan on playing havoc now

[nocturne wasp]

Didn't someone ask who wanted to play?

I am online

[ripe obsidian]

Rat's trauma build is good for Rat.

For many others, not so much

[royal totem]

i just died from an overhead

sent me into pavement

[jovial juniper]

Bro got turned into a "we miss you" shirt

[nocturne wasp]

[ripe obsidian]

Anyone doing non-Havoc missions? I need to level my scum. I am but a wee babby level 13 so far

[strong gulch]

=================================================================================================================

[strong gulch]

We are doing that.

[ripe obsidian]

Invite me, pls

[strong gulch]

I am in and out because of my head. but ye

https://discord.gg/h7TW86b7

Don't have to talk but we are there.

[summer prairie]

kind of good BoN damage with the backstab talent. Would be better if you could run dots without losing the stacks

[nocturne wasp]

Still playing?

[thin knoll]

Since the crusher buff, is it better to run vulnerable minds or penetratiin of the soul?

[strong gulch]

======================================

[ripe obsidian]

Some of these penances are goofy

"Deal 60,000 damage in Rampage"

okay, so like one activation on auric+

Versus kill 1000 enemies with heavy attacks while the special stim is active

=|

I am at 80/1000

[strong gulch]

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[ripe obsidian]

Pocket toxin + stun grenades is the thing

since you regen them

[strong gulch]

===================================================================

[nocturne wasp]

More

[strong gulch]

It'll happen again don't worry.

[plucky flax]

[wraith sphinx]

Better off than being turbo grindy

Also most of the players who bought the class will not play it beyond heresy

[ripe obsidian]

I think some of them are turbo grindy

And some of them are single-mission easy

[wraith sphinx]

Well yeah but most are the latter for which I am glad

The former are mostly the custom stimm penances, they're all cancer to do

[ripe obsidian]

I am going to wander forth from voice chat. Thanks again for the games

[strong gulch]

Thanks fren

[wraith sphinx]

I have been playing arbited again. Makes for a nice change of pace in scum dominated lobbied

[ripe obsidian]

I just had a weird bug. After a captain died, I couldn't melee.

Like, the attack animations started and aborted immediately

Shooting worked fine

[summer prairie]

guarantee weapon swap?

[ripe obsidian]

I do have it, yes

[summer prairie]

yeah doesn't work properly with scum

[ripe obsidian]

Unfortunate

Thus far, Rampage feels much better than Desperado.

At least, more fun to play

[summer prairie]

what is this final toll effect

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, they get bigger

25% bigger

[summer prairie]

always?

or since patch

[ripe obsidian]

They are supposed to

Always were

[wraith sphinx]

It got updated, works for me

[summer prairie]

I've never seen that happen

[ripe obsidian]

Might've been borked

[summer prairie]

The new update causes issues with stims/supplies

it only fixed the blitz spam

[burnt hull]

You have to play a right tree build with Stimm Supply and just melee. When you drop stimm supply ( or just get in the Stimm supply effect of another scum) it works as well.
Alternative solution is just to roll a 20sec Stimm and spam it

It’s not that long that way

[ripe obsidian]

Some of them require 50% viscosity, which is annoying

I think stimm supply is the answer

[burnt hull]

Yes but it’s like the attack speed and toughness ones

This one with heavy attacks you can do a low viscosity build and be done with it rather quickly

[wraith sphinx]

I cannot bring myself to use custom stimms

I'm probably the only hivescum player playing stimmless rn

[ripe obsidian]

I think another Scum's stimm supply counts for those penances

I have progress on the attack speed one, but I have never put that on my stimm

[wraith sphinx]

It does

I just specifically tried out custom stimms (not box) to get the weakspot hits penance

I wanted to complete my tread lightlies drip

[ripe obsidian]

That is a convenient little boon

Makes those penances that much faster

[burnt hull]

Yes they do

Thé heavy attack one also works with other Scums Stimm supplies

[burnt hull]

Try a build with right tree keystone where you have to maintain 4 stacks you’ll get used to it fast 😇

[wraith sphinx]

but I like the other two keystones much more 🙁

[marble crater]

I was sleeping already, awake now

[burnt hull]

It’s actually good ! 40%CDR, 20%crit and 20%toughness DR! But yeah you have to maintain stacks through the game. Once you’re at 4 stacks it’s more lenient tho, you can go down to 3 and pop a Stimm and be back to 4

[random spruce]

Fellas are we OP now?

[wraith sphinx]

have been for quite a long time

[random spruce]

It's just funny to me that like 2 months ago I saw various streamers list psyker/vet as last place in strength. Then about 2 weeks ago I see a tier list come out suddenly completely reversing and listing us as the most OP class in the game.....despite not a single patch changing anything in the interim...

Now I've seen various videos talking about how our damage and utility is unhealthy for the game and that sentiment is leaking into the subreddit.

It's funny that 2 months ago 90% of players touching our class drop it cause it's too tough for them, now were suddenly in need of nerfs

IDK the truth of it either way, I just like magic man. But it doesn't feel very consistent

[weary crane]

Ppl just need to shut up tbh

If you know how to play it, then yeah psyker is the strongest but most people don't know how to play and if they nerf psyker then everyone will complain havoc is too hard

Because all the other classes rely on it for horde clear

[mild light]

Dude, I very rarely ever encounter another psyker in the wild. Not enough ppl use them for it to be “bad for the game”

Best class 🙌 😩 💦

[random spruce]

That's always been my thought as well. Were a high skill floor and even higher skill ceiling class. If you play is well you get the rewards of beeeg deeps. You become warp God death destroyer of worlds.

But it's real hard to actually play the class well, and even if you do consistently there is always one mistake or mistep that makes you a coughing baby.

[weary crane]

Yeah

Pretty much all psykers I come across in havoc randoms are mid, they do their job but they aren't doing anything insane, and they get downed pretty easily

[mild light]

A lot of queil peril is best friend next to the power greatsword

Dude I get downed a lot ngl but in my defense. I can only kill sm before going insane when I’m abandoned

My teams lately have been very scattered

And I’m paper

[cunning crown]

why are Blaze Away and Warp Nexus considered top-tier for the Inferno staff? would Penetrating Flame not be better for synergy with Soulblaze DoT?

[weary crane]

Soulblaze hardly benefits from brittleness

[storm orbit]

The me looking for advice how to not be so squishy, also the me, trying to hold back the tide of the wave because everyone else ran off ahead.

[cunning crown]

damn that's unfortunate, I would have thought armour reduction would greatly help a small tick work harder

[weary crane]

People use uncanny strike instead