psyker-class

[summer prairie]

it's faster to start with mmt and people can't join

i guess you can just do private tho

[zealous wing]

ye thats what i was gonna do tbh

tho tbh this is if youre leveling a new character btw))
i dont wanna torture myself needlessly if youre just making number go brr

[jovial juniper]

Ainz went from 0 to 30 in 1 hour

But the Hiver is stuck at uprising difficulty

[zealous wing]

lmao

[deft stump]

Wouldn't it be better to just do it to skip to mid lvls then just rush missions to unlock auric?

[zealous wing]

just have someone run damnations/auric and as long as you win you make progress

[deft stump]

Winning auric at mid lvls is hell unless you know a solo speedrunner.

[weary crane]

Yay I can put wildfire back in my build now

[zealous wing]

if ainz can sit there and do the same 3 minutes of a mission for an hour im SURE he can power through uprising though

[plucky flax]

I'm free now.

Time to turn donw volumn and put on music

There's no flavour without sport.

[jovial juniper]

Idk

[deft stump]

Did you ping wrong person?

[plucky flax]

No I pinged the right person.

I am playing with hexis.

Lvl 1 to lvl 6 pog

[deft stump]

Oh, okay.

[weary crane]

Clearance 40 ❤️

[plucky flax]

Now you can get carried by Karien.

[plucky flax]

@zealous wing thanks for the carry I am going to meatgrinder to craft stuff

[zealous wing]

nice, says you left the squad tho so you just announced to the lobby lmao

and, np at all

gonna leave and remake squad if you wanna do some runs

[plucky flax]

I need to make builds and stuff.

Give me like 15~20 mins

[zealous wing]

no rush, gonna do my own stuff over here too

[plucky flax]

And level masteries + make curioes

[royal totem]

I need to get up 🙁

But idk. Nothing to do on dt

[strong gulch]

Is wildfire actually fixed?

[zealous wing]

im gonna guess so, if a clientside mod was able to fix it surely fs can

@plucky flax did you run a rituals 40 or was it without rituals?

[plucky flax]

Yeah

It's fixed

[zealous wing]

cool

[strong gulch]

[royal totem]

H40 too hard. I can only get carried

[plucky flax]

Damn the crowbar blessings kinda ass

[strong gulch]

deleting a bunch of builds and taking notes along the way

[summer prairie]

the crowbar seems cool but not very good

[zealous wing]

definitely seems more horde clear with option for single target rather than single target with option for horde clear

but even then its.... eh

shivs i love honestly, very fast, good horde clear on mk3, esp paired with the cleave talents and rampage,

also lovely

shivs alone suck at cara but with this you can stack tox dot

[plucky flax]

What's the special for the saw?

Purple tox and yellow tox?

[zealous wing]

yellow is tox, purple brittle

[summer prairie]

shivs with buffs was more like 2.5k dps vs cara

[zealous wing]

well with buffs yeah but by themselves they arent great

[gray juniper]

So……

[zealous wing]

sup

[gray juniper]

They added a whole new class again….

[zealous wing]

yup

[summer prairie]

they are going to add 3 more

[gray juniper]

…………………..but no new levels or story continuity

[zealous wing]

new map

[gray juniper]

😄

[zealous wing]

new campaign started too

[gray juniper]

Let me shut up then

[zealous wing]

train, then excise vault, then new map, part of campaign 2

can access any map any time now too

including train)

[gray juniper]

Wait what do you mean train? We have train at home. Everyone loves it

[plucky flax]

The saw looks cool I hope it's good.

I don't want to be #10000 methhead with shivs.

[zealous wing]

worst case you can knife or taxe honestly

shivs are just fuckin perfect for crit tox stacking

[summer prairie]

I wouldn't want to play scum without a proper mobility weapon, though I guess you have mobility with needler

and some other guns

[zealous wing]

i like the stubs

stylepoints

[gray juniper]

The shark truly listens because seeing dual wielding in the game made me laugh. Thought about all those comments people talked about it

[strong gulch]

yes also hi

[gray juniper]

Hello friend

I tried rogue trader again and found out I liked it a lot

[jovial juniper]

The only problem is that it's paywalled

And exclusive

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[gray juniper]

Sister Argenta goes crazy

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

She even hits the griddy

[plucky flax]

Hmm the saw also has sticking mechanics.

[royal totem]

i don't see a problem with it being a paid class tbh

[plucky flax]

Shivs it is.

[royal totem]

fatshark has to make money somehow

[gray juniper]

True. Ngl it’s kind of crazy how often they’re willing to put out updates and work on a game this old as a smaller company. It has to be a passion project

[gray juniper]

“This is why I was chosen!”

[royal totem]

i think it's like ok as long as they don't gate new maps behind DLC

[gray juniper]

Omg I’d have to riot

[royal totem]

agreed

[deft stump]

I honestly went back to knoife.

[royal totem]

as in the knife over shivs?

[deft stump]

Yeah. Heavy sprint slide gasgasgas.

Feels like shivs no free crit chance.

[royal totem]

i ...........dont think i like the saw

[jovial juniper]

Do you like
My car (my car)

[deft stump]

Or lower than kniife.

[deft stump]

I don't like it as well. Too awkward to use. No CC imo.

Is nice if you like meleeing bosses though.

[restive roost]

Still no 21% health curio from the armory, and none from Sire Milk gacha

I'm still struggling with surviving as psyker

[deft stump]

You always will to some degree.

[restive roost]

[deft stump]

Psyker is like, only tankier than vet and ganger lul.

[royal totem]

for horde clear on shivs do i

just light spam?

[jovial juniper]

Can't even call it glass cannon anymore

GG psyker lost identity

[restive roost]

I find it easier to stay alive as vet because of the shout, and I dunno, I just find watching my flank easier as vet.

[jovial juniper]

(that it basically never had)

[restive roost]

Grenades, stealth ability..

[deft stump]

Glass cannon is always it?

[deft stump]

Tankier. Not means of not dying.

[zealous wing]

light spam if mk3, if the others youll want l1 l2 bc but that gets way too fast sometimes

[plucky flax]

Do shivs have increase crit chance like knife?

[gray juniper]

That sounds like terrible design tbh

[restive roost]

While I enjoy the inferno staff and bubble meta, I think I really adore the greatsword and scryer's gaze gameplay

[deft stump]

I just crit less than on my knoife.

[gray juniper]

Yea that’s bad

[zealous wing]

ye but who needs crits if you have infinite tox

[deft stump]

Planning to make a tacaxe with agile to test some nonsense.

[deft stump]

Crit to tox

[gray juniper]

So it’s zealot knife with perks huh

[zealous wing]

ye but less range and slower

[gray juniper]

Wew

Idk about that lol

[deft stump]

Is why the joke that the class is zealot with sus vet stuff.

[gray juniper]

Reminds me I still need to get good at vet someday

[jovial juniper]

Ranged Zealot

[gray juniper]

This class probably isn’t for me

[deft stump]

And OG meleeker tankablity.

[gray juniper]

Can’t wait to see the new game content though

[deft stump]

Before all the added dr and such.

[marble crater]

Why did only some of my talent trees get reset?

[deft stump]

They fixed it.

[zealous wing]

can also make a crit stim

[deft stump]

But for anyone who played day one, get karked.

[gray juniper]

Psyker really needed it though tbh. With all the punishment mechanics for breaking coherence psyker and vet were getting dogged by speed runners

[summer prairie]

so +12.5% crit for shivs

over base

[deft stump]

Is that like 12.5%.

[zealous wing]

whats knife

[gray juniper]

Well that sounds high actually

[deft stump]

15%

[zealous wing]

so very very small difference

[gray juniper]

That excellent though, yea

?

[deft stump]

Still feels like I crit way more on knoife.

[marble crater]

Works for me, my talent trees are fixed and I can maybe play later

[deft stump]

So, IDK.

[marble crater]

I was prepared to spend some actual time on it

[plucky flax]

Hmm dunno if I want riposte or bleed.

[zealous wing]

bleed kinda meh, your main DoT will be tox so bleed amount will be tiny

[summer prairie]

it's kind of goofy to get +40% if you have riposte and the node

[plucky flax]

Ye tru

[gray juniper]

The idea of parrying with a shiv is a bit absurd and funny tbh

[deft stump]

Is funny on bosses still with uncanny.

[plucky flax]

@zealous wing

I restart game and pee then I can try a few events rounds.

First time playing scummer.

Pls no flame

[marble crater]

Yes flame

[gray juniper]

Ah, so you’ve already mastered the new class

[zealous wing]

am also relaunching

[strong gulch]

I have some psyker builds

[plucky flax]

Don't be like karien.

[strong gulch]

deleted half of them

[marble crater]

I am like Karien, we both like women

[zealous wing]

ah might have a friend playing dt first time ever logging on, might be a chance i have to bail, not sure, he may wanna do some runs on his own first

[strong gulch]

Not doing the other psykers today.

[plucky flax]

Okay fair.

Enjoy.

[zealous wing]

it'd be uprising the fuck you mean enjoy

😭

[marble crater]

Bring him to auric and tell him it's the easiest

[zealous wing]

not on vet, i cant do that

[plucky flax]

Wut I can only play uprising too.

Help

[zealous wing]

LMFAO

[marble crater]

Play something else then

smh

[deft stump]

Enjoy slacking.

[zealous wing]

nah i bet he takes vet first

[summer prairie]

he's still looking for sedition

[deft stump]

That's what I do on uprising.

Then watch a lvl 24 arby die.

And question everything.

[zinc phoenix]

the new event is tough

also i love tox rampage scum, it has all the joys and downsides of og meleeker

[zealous wing]

does @strong gulch want to auric?

[strong gulch]

I can try

[zinc phoenix]

you guys wanna do the event?

im down to do some auric

[strong gulch]

oh right event

[zealous wing]

ye

[zinc phoenix]

i like the event a lot, you get altars that spawn wacky encounters

[zealous wing]

the collect is not nearly as bad as rations was

[zinc phoenix]

rashuns event was fun thematically but the implementation was ass

in future id like to have a smaller number of collectibles and if there is an option of X or Y i want to pick my answer at start not at every collectible

also i love the scum armor, its so flashy and fun

i wish it had a breastplate tho it looks pretty dumb without

nobody doing the event on auric sad

[royal totem]

oh

i just realized there's an event

[plucky flax]

What's the aoe toxin node?

[deft stump]

The grenade one? Bot right in the middle~ area.

[plucky flax]

Does it only work for nade toxin?

Or toxin from melee crit?

[summer prairie]

This node is good because it increases the base damage, so it gets multiplied by both power and your regular damage buffs

[strong gulch]

ye

[zealous wing]

this one?

[plucky flax]

Ye does it work from crit toxin?

[strong gulch]

Rip. Game gave me a DB shotgun.

[royal totem]

whee another thing to grind alone then

[zealous wing]

melee so no

[plucky flax]

Damn

[strong gulch]

yes. I am sure it will be completely alone

[royal totem]

i norm speed run events and finish then stop

[strong gulch]

I normally wait until the last few moments 😭

[zealous wing]

hey free aquila is free aquila, even if its not enough to buy anything but a trinket on its own

[royal totem]

i don't think i'm ever going to spend my 4k aquilas

[quiet inlet]

The description of the event looked pretty fun. Looking forward to giving it a go

[marble crater]

Free aquila where?

[tulip kettle]

new event final rewrd 500 aquila

[marble crater]

And buying 4k for 5€, everyone is going to have fresh new drip, except for Arby

[zealous wing]

clutched auric as scum, then died to gunner because headset died 😭

[marble crater]

Died how?

[strong gulch]

I died because stupid

[quiet inlet]

Did you win after you dyeded?

[zealous wing]

i had like 10hp, got knocked off the side of baross with something, idk what, had a little hp left, headset died, i try to run back around and up, surprise gunner

and no we lost

[marble crater]

How did the headset die?

[royal totem]

wireless

out of battery

i'm guessing

speaking of which, i should charge my earbuds

[strong gulch]

Died.

[marble crater]

Wireless 🤮

[zealous wing]

i have two batteries for it but ye wireless

[strong gulch]

Clutchable. I was stupid and stubborn. Turns out I could not accept that my shit knife could not push through a horde to reach a flamer.

[royal totem]

i use to use a steelseries wireless headset

but the lifespan wasn't that great. it died after like 2 years

[zealous wing]

i have a SS arctis nova

arctis? spelling, whatever

adrenaline brrr

😭

[royal totem]

this was also like 10 years back

so technology wasn't as good

[zealous wing]

also

turns out stripped down on needler is great

thats the only reason i got the rescues

well and the chems probably to trim it down

who needs EE when you can just sprint slide forever

[royal totem]

i forgot what stripped down is

[royal totem]

how do you maintain the over 50% stam part

[zealous wing]

slide

thats all

it regen so fast

[royal totem]

i see

i'm playing challenge mode hive scum

no curios

[zealous wing]

@plucky flax grab those two middle ones above middle keystone

[summer prairie]

I've them in my every build

[ripe obsidian]

Question not the wisdom of the Syllogism

[strong gulch]

Yes. Emp gave me a different ranged weapon

gtfo DB shotgun

[zealous wing]

ye that looked rough

[strong gulch]

up close with nothing in the way and 1 enemy it felt fine

but uhhh lol

[ripe obsidian]

The needle pistol seems the most powerful

[zealous wing]

stubs get stylepoints

[strong gulch]

ye

even free needle pistol from emps with shit blessings and perks is strong

stubs are fun

not the strongest

but you can tell whoever worked on them loved their work

[weary crane]

Needle pistol has 2 great blessings

Desperado and point blank

Point blank works from melee weapon kills

And crits apply an additional 2 stacks of toxin

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07b4047-e2e7-46cf-b3d8-c1e3f9f90304/hive-rager

This is what I use

[left basin]

any1 recognize this

[wraith sphinx]

did you update dmf and d mod loader

[zealous wing]

epic cole worked with the weapon animator to make sure it was right, even showing him his actual 1911's

[zealous wing]

numericUI probably

also the sound of these stubs is just glorious

[left basin]

bofe

[wraith sphinx]

no idea then sorry

[left basin]

crosshairs fix

[plucky flax]

My game crashed cos I was in solo mode testing against havoc

The bone saw is so cool but the carapace damage is so ass.

[zealous wing]

oof i thought you left cuz i made you wait too long ngl 😭

is the @tulip kettle doing event stuffs?

[ripe obsidian]

Have you tried toxining?

[plucky flax]

Ye

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[plucky flax]

Toxin op but shivs is just most op

I think the animation for shivs is bad tho

It feels a bit too floaty.

[zealous wing]

have you tried mk3

[left basin]

whoops, it was more than crosshairs fix

[jovial juniper]

True

It's the reverse grip 100%

[tulip kettle]

i can be 🙂

just doing a few havocs with randoms but if im invited i will join

https://tenor.com/view/bonesaw-ready-spiderman-wrestling-mic-gif-5061365

[plucky flax]

@zealous wing I'mma go eat. This smite guy gonna drag the mission out to like 30+ mins

[zealous wing]

yeah i tried to vote kick

we got DH wiped anyway

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie you playing tonight? My scum is havoc ready

[plucky flax]

I voted yes 😭

[summer prairie]

Maybe in 45 minutes I can

[plucky flax]

I am eating now

[summer prairie]

I want to play scum too but that might be throwing, need people who don't care

[plucky flax]

Maybe karien wants to carry if shes still awake

[plucky flax]

I dont care but 2 scums is like 2 soulblaze psykers

Kinda fighting each other for first application

[summer prairie]

I don't think so, the grenades are limited. Maybe if both have the needler

[zealous wing]

tox on crit too

[summer prairie]

that's just for the buffs and small damage

[plucky flax]

Im using rampage that ability is quite good

[summer prairie]

or refreshing boss stacks

[zealous wing]

first application gets control, so if someone has unyielding and someone doesnt, and the one who doesnt gets first application, that monstrosity isnt going down as fast as it could

[plucky flax]

So if I use the med ability does it eat a stim?

[summer prairie]

rampage is good, the shouts are nice for safety too

supplies? yes

[plucky flax]

Hmm so no unlimited green stim cheese?

[zealous wing]

if you have a stim, yes, if you dont, its just the default corruption cleanse

[jovial juniper]

It only applies once iirc

So not that unlimited

[plucky flax]

I took off the stagger shout for stim cd

Maybe team is pro and dont need extra cc

[zealous wing]

shout works on monstrosities

[ripe obsidian]

The stim box is goofy

[summer prairie]

the shout is for your own survival since it staggers crushers even

[ripe obsidian]

Immunity to corruption on the blight modifier

[zealous wing]

ye

[ripe obsidian]

Doesn't it also stagger bosses?

[zealous wing]

yes

[plucky flax]

Yeah shout is real good but

[summer prairie]

how long is your stim cooldown anyway

[plucky flax]

I had to use too many points for survivability already

I only take 1 line for the crit chance

I take the stim cd on kill

[summer prairie]

I haven't played much scum yet but I think the cooldown line is good, don't need others

[zealous wing]

doesnt work while stim is active btw, cd only starts when stim ends

stim cd that is

[plucky flax]

Yeah

Its to get stim back faster so I have like a mini boost every fight

For the crit chance and strength

[zealous wing]

thats why i like the breathe and go crate too, instantly starts stim CD

[acoustic flame]

is the duelling sword any good on psyker

[verbal thistle]

It's okay but doesn't provide a lot of utility unlike the other weapons

It falls in middle ground between the 2 force swords

It's fast and single target

But great sword does better single target and normal force swords have similar mobility but more utility

[plucky flax]

Real

[leaden wind]

FGS is the way

[regal holly]

Any considerations when picking fire shout vs damage shout, other than enemy status effects? Still trying to figure out how it works with enemies caught in the shout that are already on fire with spreading perks selected

[ripe obsidian]

Never damage shout

Only fire shout

There is basically never a use case where damage shout actually does more damage than fire shout

[regal holly]

Ahhh. So the offering of choice is not actually a choice

[royal totem]

False choices yep

[plucky flax]

But you can do meme rupture knight

[mossy hazel]

I have a Psyker problem:

I like the gameplay so much, I basically want some variant of it in every game I play.

[plucky flax]

Fartshart release second psyker class in 10 years

[mossy hazel]

I mean, like, other games. Oh, someone wants to co-op BG3? Cool. Can I play a Psyker?

Loading up Elden Ring for the 100th time? Psyker.

[regal holly]

Wait, is Veteran also a Psyker by definition?

Pushes people back with shouts
Can shoot blue glowy stuff
Critical-centered tree focuses

[leaden wind]

Based and psykerpilled

[plucky flax]

Magic man

[mossy hazel]

I just love the risk/reward/oops-I’m-gonna-explode playstyle.

I think I first fell in love with it in the Warhammer Fantasy MMO. Bright Wizard and… uh… Dark Elf Sorcerer both had a mechanic like that.

[leaden wind]

Fr once i started my psyker class i started understanding the game way better

[regal holly]

Same

Started as zealot but was super frustrated. Them did Psyker. so that's how that works

[leaden wind]

LMAO SAME

[jovial juniper]

Has an infinite cleave weapon that applies dots (Manstopper flechette double Barrel)

[cosmic sigil]

I'd like to play a bard in DT. And not the chorus type no thank you.

[plucky flax]

Read book and buff team pog

[mossy hazel]

I do have an honest question though. I finished the campaign the other night, I’m nearly 30. I’ve been running the New Psyker build… ish. I switched to Bubble for the Twins mission and haven’t gone back to vent.

Is there a point at which I should consider swapping my build up, either weapons or talents wise? Or is it just kind of preference at this point? I like the idea of staffs…

[cosmic sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1445390851445489704/mr-frog-from-smiling-friends-v0-9sz4ff9dpjhf1.gif

[cosmic sigil]

No. No more staff. It's bad.

[mossy hazel]

Bummer.

[ripe obsidian]

Preference. I have numerous builds in the pinned build guide, most of which can succeed even at H40.

[radiant frigate]

me but it was at release and everything kind of sucked so i became a psyker main because the old iteration of EK allowed me to skip shooter encounters so i can get back to the fun part (melee) faster

[tulip kettle]

i actually played with a shroudfield aggro dump zealot

not seen this in a while

[radiant frigate]

extremely ratty behavior

[tulip kettle]

super toxic running ahead of everything and dumping 4 bosses and all the ambients on the 3 of us like 5 rooms behind

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[tulip kettle]

i thought it had died out

[mossy hazel]

One more question: can a build be good at everything? I mean, it seems like there are different challenges: Hordes, flak guys, carapace guys, bosses… Right now I feel like my build (Assail, bubble, FGS, bolt pistol) is pretty good at everything except bosses where it’s kinda meh. Maybe that’s a skill issue.

[verbal thistle]

Psyker easily makes everything work

With multiple horde clear talents they can pick 2 weapons that do everything else

[tulip kettle]

as builds go, your one is pretty good vs bosses

[verbal thistle]

Most melees delete cara and unyield

And staffs are op

[tulip kettle]

can stack bleed on it with bistol then bonk it

[jovial juniper]

Or you can just take a generalist melee and be good at everything but mobility

[tulip kettle]

or take a mobility ranged like recon

or lpistol

[jovial juniper]

Or sap

[tulip kettle]

🤮

but true

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry
Also not big fan of sap

[royal totem]

Whats sap?

Oh

Nvm

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[royal totem]

I think my problem with hive scum is

I dont love any melee

But i also play the game the most boring ways

So im probs unique in that aspect

[ripe obsidian]

Don't bully yourself

[quiet inlet]

The stubs looks great, even if they don't look at all like 1911s

and fashion tide is important! plus they have a twirl button 😄

[ripe obsidian]

Apparently @autumn smelt worked with the devs on the 1911s

I do not know the details

[hazy birch]

yea idk who brought up 1911s with those guns but those are nothing like 1911s outside of low magazine capacity

[strong gulch]

Local gun nerds spotted.

[hazy birch]

im a professional shooter and a gunsmith. and the 1911 is my preferred tool.

[strong gulch]

Gunsmith you say

[jovial juniper]

Probably because that one art of stubber pistol being an 1911

You know how this fandom is

[ripe obsidian]

I learned to shoot a little .22 rifle when I was growing up on a farm and have not touched a firearm since.

[hazy birch]

sounds like hopium

[jovial juniper]

It's also really funny to say that the 1911 survived 40 thousand years of war

[hazy birch]

id love nothing more than for them to be more sleighted towards the 1911 in aesthetics. sexy gun. its just... not lol

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, how different are the projectile weapons in 40k from modern day? This is a legitimate question, not rhetorical

[hazy birch]

that is a major talking point in the gun community. one of few guns relevant for as long as it has been

and honestly it likely will still be relevant for a very long time.

[hazy birch]

very

[jovial juniper]

I think the term Stubber refers to all the modern (20-21st century) weapons

So it's safe to say that those didn't change much

[hazy birch]

one thing i always have to stop myself from over analyzing about the weapons in this game is how unbelievably heavy they would be

the senseless and useless excesses of steel for what has to simply be style. youd not want to actually carry a lot of these in battle lol

[ripe obsidian]

Well, let's exclude the sci-fi stuff like boltguns and focus on the combat rifles and revolvers and stuff that exist in the real world in some form. Again, I do not know what I am talking about and am curious on details

[jovial juniper]

Too late to shoot a Browning in 40k
Too early to shoot a Browning in 40k
Just in time to shoot a Browning in 40k

[hazy birch]

im thinking mostly about the shotguns

combat and exaction along with things like the auto rifles

they just look "chunky"

real guns are pretty minimalist. weight is a huge concern

[ripe obsidian]

Haven't Maxim guns been in use for 150+ years? Or something like that

[ripe obsidian]

So it's a case of Rule of Cool outweighing realism. Unsurprising

[zinc phoenix]

So what do they look like?

8 been calling them deagles 😂 not because it’s correct but because it’s simple to type

[hazy birch]

yea it is what it is. they certainly look cool

[jovial juniper]

"Stubbers, or stub guns, are weapons from as early as the halfway point of M2, but mostly 20th/21st century guns (our times) in the 41st millennium. Needless to say, most haven't aged very well when you consider how powerful everything else is. The only thing that they have going for them is they are cheap, they can still kill an unarmoured humanoid target, and are durable as hell and depending on its mechanics and care, given can be and have been in use SINCE M2."

[hazy birch]

though in the case of the dual stubbers, im not much a fan of how they look. but if i were to relate them to a modern gun by aesthetics alone, id lean them more towards beretta

[jovial juniper]

So yeah it's basically nowadays guns that survived into 40k

[ripe obsidian]

Fascinating

[jovial juniper]

Although they are considered cheaper and weaker

[zinc phoenix]

An extra two pounds on a gun feels very noticeable, it’s the same thing with swords. You want a super minimal thing for actually stabbing because any extra weight tires you out faster

[hazy birch]

they do hit rather hard and depending on which caliber deagle you have, similar mag sizes

[jovial juniper]

And apparently even the guardsmen flak armor should have a good amount of protection against them

[ripe obsidian]

I know more about swords than I do about guns. The difference between a 2.5 pound sword and a 3.5 pound sword is very significant

[zinc phoenix]

Yep you feel it

The parade ones are all fancy tho

[hazy birch]

an extra pound of weight on a gun would be insane

[zinc phoenix]

Because why not, it looks dope and it’s ok if you get a little tired

[hazy birch]

depends where it is located on the gun but that could easily be the difference between being not usable

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I am thinking real (or, somewhat combat ready) swords made by professional blacksmiths versus mall ninja shit

[hazy birch]

yea swords are all over the place. from daggers to claymores youre gonna have some vast weight differences lol

[jovial juniper]

Btw taken from here
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Stubber#Heavy_Stubber

As you can see they put the kickback on the list

A darktide exclusive

[ripe obsidian]

I really like the flamberges that I believe Landsknecht carried into battle to cut the heads off of pikes

[hazy birch]

kris blades are a forging nightmare

[ripe obsidian]

They are very wibbly

[jovial juniper]

And the twinks

[ripe obsidian]

I am not knowledgeable enough to know the benefit of such a curvy blade as opposed to straight. Like, I know a cutlass or other curved sword has a specific weight balance to make a certain point on the blade much better for cutting, but I am unsure for a kris

A brief search shows that it might be more for aesthetics than functionality

[strong gulch]

Blade curve depends on use. @quiet inlet knows more

[ripe obsidian]

Well, kris aren't just curved. They're wavy

Like an undulating snake

They're also a stabbing weapon, I believe, rather than slashing

[strong gulch]

There is a use for those snake like blades.

I'm not a weapon nerd tho.

So I don't remember it's purpose or use.

[zealous wing]

probably similar to twisted blades, makes it harder to close the wound up if i had to just guess

[strong gulch]

Some swords and blades were very much for aesthetics, but that was more materials, adornments, etc than the overall shape iirc.

[tulip kettle]

a single curve in the blade causes an increase in concentration of force on a single point = better for slashing

[strong gulch]

Ninja has polluted my brains.

[tulip kettle]

but, for example, many japanese blades are curved due to the quenching process and less because its a specific design feature

if you cool one edge of the blade it will cause a curve

[polar flower]

I had arm and back day yesterday and now my boobs hurt whenever I itch my shoulder

[strong gulch]

Oh rip.

But they do account for the curve and make it a whole thing which then becomes a really specific.

[quiet inlet]

There's a youtube channel that answers that very question. A guy from the british royal arms museum does analysis of fantasy guns and whatnot, pretty cool. He's done a few vids on darktide, lemme find them when I get a chance

[quiet inlet]

you know as much asbout swords as I do about makeup. Fair trade.

[fierce crest]

i love swords and makeup

[ripe obsidian]

I do know this.

[royal totem]

pineapple. you have a non-sus havoc?

[fierce crest]

checking

[strong gulch]

nooooooooo

New rule. If I super hate the weapon and I've aleady done a round, then I can keep what I have.

[fierce crest]

idk why but i assumed it was to increase the length of the edge

more edge more cut

[quiet inlet]

and blade strength, and stowage

[fierce crest]

still loading but i think it was stims and something when i logged off

[royal totem]

stims isn't too ass now

[fierce crest]

what changed?

stimms and rituals

rip

[royal totem]

blue no longer has stun immunity

[fierce crest]

oh hell yeah

[zealous wing]

red has it now

[royal totem]

and is only 60% DR now

[fierce crest]

idk why i didnt read these patch notes

[royal totem]

it's just less opressive

[quiet inlet]

I wonder if that is enough to make the unkillable ragers killable now

[zealous wing]

the unkillable ones can at least be shoved now

or staggered in any manner

[strong gulch]

Hmm, I really hope scum isn't making me sick or exacerbating what's already happening.

[royal totem]

or you can at least prayer them now

[royal totem]

that's actually not too ass. if you want to play it sometime i'll do it

[fierce crest]

now?

:P

[zealous wing]

i have noticed i'm really overstimulated by it, crashing hard rn if thats similar to how you feel beans

[royal totem]

could now yeah

could later too

up to you

[strong gulch]

Ye. Unstageable and unkillable was quite the combo. Like, choose one my dudes.

[fierce crest]

oh fuick they nerfed healers too

[royal totem]

sadly not in rotation atm

[fierce crest]

not too much it seems tho

which is good i liked that one

forcing a bit of awkward target prio is fun

[strong gulch]

Yeah, but add all of the cognitive and tummy issues on top.

Seems like a lot of us are getting over stimulated.

[zealous wing]

especially on shivs, its a LOT of moving, a lot of new bright colours as well, among other things

[strong gulch]

The med crate ability makes my head hurt and my tummy churn with the FOV changes.

[zealous wing]

ye that mod needs to update to remove them

the rage one too

[strong gulch]

Yeah knife is similar except I don't have the toxin stuff.

[royal totem]

i think it's a fine line between opressive and reasonable

[strong gulch]

For sure

and everyone is different

[zealous wing]

its super fun tho for sure......
just probably in much smaller doses and when we know we're fine to play such a high stress class

[zealous wing]

i tried to go back to gunker earlier with agent and, it mightve been the smyker that was there that pissed me off, but, i was fumbling so hard

[fierce crest]

same with talent tree UX (partially)

[strong gulch]

It was only heresy, but I clutched it.

on scum

[zealous wing]

we were doomed anyway because agent left because the zealot didnt vote yes to kick, and it was event, so we got a taste of unleashed hexbound DH))

i managed to clutch an auric on scum, we still failed but i did it

that started this tho

that little adrenaline spike was just too much for me and im still feeling it

and now we've tried 3 h40s, and i was scum on all 3, im beyond frazzled

[strong gulch]

nooooo

[zealous wing]

i will say tho, supply crate on blight

if you can stay alve to provide ofc

goated

corruption IMMUNITY means free reign of the terrain

[fierce crest]

so scum is just knife scriers psyker then :P

[zealous wing]

more

its way more

knife SG never made me feel like this

[royal totem]

hmmm so it takes 4 needles to kill an auric crusher

[zealous wing]

3 if you dont mind waiting

2 for a reaper

[ripe obsidian]

I am going to be a grammar asshole for a moment because that phrase is one of my pet peeves. It's free rein rather than free reign, as in giving a horse freedom of movement by loosely/not holding the reins.

[royal totem]

3 seems slightly inconsistent? i shot it with 3 one time in psychanium and it died

but the other time it didn't

think you're better off with 4 just in case

[fierce crest]

crit rng?

[royal totem]

probably and also if you do actually hit weak spots maybe? uncertain

[zealous wing]

do you have cara on the gun

[fierce crest]

well weak spot shouldnt matter but crits add more stacks

[royal totem]

i do not have cara on the gun

[fierce crest]

so is it soul blaze that crashes riutuals?

[mighty cipher]

That’s actually pretty neat

[royal totem]

it's fixed

[fierce crest]

poggerst

[zealous wing]

headshots might actually matter

128 starting tick, headshot
109 starting tick, body shot

so, def aim for weakpoints

[fierce crest]

lole

[zealous wing]

also dont bother shooting something more than 5 times in a row

[fierce crest]

oh thank fuck

[zealous wing]

5 shots is what it takes to get to max, so after that you just top up the stacks every now and again

[royal totem]

yeah i figured that part out thankfully

alright pineapple. whenever you're ready

[zealous wing]

i also put flak maniac on my shivs to kill gunners /flamers /trappers / muties faster

[fierce crest]

imm ready

[royal totem]

i'm just unleashing toxic warfare on tertium

[royal totem]

i'm ready. just waiting for inv

[zealous wing]

if you use a carapace weapon you can switch to that after dumping toxin in the crusher

[royal totem]

nice. so i can switch to saw

i'm beginning to think all of Pineapple's operatives are named the same

[fierce crest]

not me ogryn

totally different

[royal totem]

very different xD

[fierce crest]

its wild how much easier pug havoc gets after the low 20s

i ran a few after we played

[royal totem]

i'm going to start leveling PewPew sometime

i'm sure nobody knows what class PewPew is

[fierce crest]

gunker

[royal totem]

oh no. this might be 2 hard 4 me then

[fierce crest]

nah

its just

[royal totem]

i'm a bottom 10% player after all

[fierce crest]

the ppl at low 20s

are

inconsistent

[royal totem]

they're bad

[fierce crest]

funnily enough had a clearance 40 join and they did survive longer than the other 2

[royal totem]

if we find nothing good, i'll go prayer zealot

yeah the clearance 40s at this point in season are generally good

[fierce crest]

they still died before i did lol

[royal totem]

it happens

i'd tell you what i saw but i'm afraid it's only DM'able

[fierce crest]

🙂‍↕️

so many slurs

[royal totem]

if you're interested i'll tell but only in DMs lol

[fierce crest]

go for it lol

[royal totem]

messaged lmao

[fierce crest]

ok dont be mad at me

i forgot talents reset

i was wondering why i didnt have knives and only one charge of fury

[zealous wing]

OOF

[fierce crest]

dont tell the randoms

[royal totem]

LMAO

Hexis

T__T

[zealous wing]

sup

[royal totem]

my amazing clutch got ruined by a mutie

[zealous wing]

oof

[royal totem]

i had it all planned out

[fierce crest]

baby shoes, never worn

[strong gulch]

sad

[royal totem]

book on stairs

and then dash and res a few

i even just ledged a chaos spawn

T_____T

[ripe obsidian]

I'll ledge you

[royal totem]

lil ol me? 🙁

[strong gulch]

I'll ledge myself. Scum dodge too big.

[royal totem]

i hate muties so much

[strong gulch]

I fell on relay station at least 3 times right before the last part of the end event after the stairs.

Hit a button to rotate the walkway, dodge a thing, YEET, run back up, repeat

[royal totem]

server kicked me out

woof

[manic fulcrum]

Any havoc40 build recommendations?

[strong gulch]

check pins

bubble inferno and force sword are meta

oh right

[manic fulcrum]

Thank you

[strong gulch]

If you want feedback. I'm at my PC and in a better state. Other people are around too.

[ripe obsidian]

I have a section in the build guide about meta

[strong gulch]

Ye. Look for the havoc section and then the meta section under that.

But keep in mind that the build has to work for you.

[sly cliff]

is the soulblaze build still viable with inferno staff? i haven't played since lex release

[strong gulch]

yes

[sly cliff]

pog

[royal totem]

we lost a round to bad luck ._.

captain+twins

chat glitched but i am ready @fierce crest

[fierce crest]

we got an exe stance vet

neat

[wraith sphinx]

F anarchist and F savant, made me laugh

[jovial juniper]

My girlies

[rotund dagger]

Peam GrimYuri?

[royal totem]

I"M FINALLY DONE

1500 plasma gunners dead

[wraith sphinx]

Peam

[royal totem]

i don't mind executioner stance vets as long as they're good at it

[fierce crest]

yeah we did fine

[royal totem]

i saved us from 2 demonhosts

[fierce crest]

:3

[royal totem]

and soloed a third ritual

for the record everyone

the power matrix demonhost is still glitched

[strong gulch]

oh

cat fur stuffed in mouse laser

no wonder my screen kept flipping

lmao

[ripe obsidian]

I know this pain

H39. One more win to go

I am loving this team comp. Me on inferno shriek, 2x Ogryns (1 w/ shield, 1 w/ branx), and 1x vet

I have such a wall to protect me

[strong gulch]

again.....

emps no

[tulip kettle]

anyone know what praying at the shrines actually does except spawn bosses?

seems like you can complete the event just picking up the stuff off the floor

[dull scroll]

anybody find out if it's just wildfire crashing rits or any soulblaze?

[strong gulch]

It should be fixed/

[royal totem]

there was a hotfix this morning

[dull scroll]

oh nice

[royal totem]

@fierce crest thank you for the games

i go rest now

[fierce crest]

the winner

[strong gulch]

Pre wildfire fix
From other's testing, it should just be wildfire. There error that popped up was wildfire related.

BUT some were having issues even when wildfire wasn't chosen.

[royal totem]

What did i win

[fierce crest]

rank 22

[royal totem]

oh lmao

i'm rank 30 but the thing is. nobody will accept me into 20s unless i have at least a clearance

it's a super ass thing

and i don't want to do my mission cuz it's so cursed

i thought i won most snipers killed last mission or something

@strong gulch i thought they took rituals out to fix the bugged rituals. but it appears they didn't fix it at all and just put it back in and went shrugs

[long wharf]

Siblings, has anyone tried the "collectable cheese" that worked last event?

[deft stump]

I need to vent. Play malice, had to solo clutch like important stuff and bosses. Le sigh. I just wanna turn brain off on Arby.

[long wharf]

yeah, tons of new players that don't know how to play well, playing the newest class that requires the most skill to survive

[deft stump]

They exploded. They karking started event AND the event...

Twice the spawns on me when I had to solo both events.

Chaos Spawn and waves on waves is FUN.

Solo.

On top of scanning minigame.

[long wharf]

oof

[deft stump]

Thanks FS for absolute horsedook rescue points that forced it to be solo'd.

Cos everyone was behind a door that requires finishing the scan event to pick up.

Bonus? Rager pack and a flamer when i got to them. Yay for 1 last shock mine.

[royal totem]

🙁

[deft stump]

The karking pub ganger proceeded to grab the ammo after and 'nades instead of letting me refill.

[royal totem]

this is why Karien needs to play with me instead xD

[deft stump]

Proceeded to go down on the finale as well.

[royal totem]

hive scum are so fcking greedy it's unbelievable

they loot vacumn everything in sight

[deft stump]

Bonus, Karker isn't even thankful about it. Bleah.

Only reason I didn't just leave was playing with a friend.

[royal totem]

ah 🙁

[reef pecan]

I hate to bother but what's the rundown on the two force greatsword variants?

[verbal thistle]

Horde clear orienta illisi, single target focus obscurus, mixed Deimos

[reef pecan]

thankeee

[long wharf]

Ainz, have you tried the event cheese from last even on this one?

[strong gulch]

no forkin clue tbh

[verbal thistle]

Deimos obscurus have similar performance while illisi underperforms compared to the others

[verbal thistle]

There is an event?

I had no idea

[long wharf]

yep, it includes more collecting

first thing I thought of was the prior event's cheesing

[royal totem]

nah i'm telling you they're still bugged 🙁

cuz i played a game with them

i'm convinced FS doesn't care about havoc

[verbal thistle]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, I am H40 again

[weary crane]

I was playing hive scum in havoc, but I felt like I needed to rely on my teammates, so I'm back to psyker now

My arby build was nerfed hard too, so it's pretty much just my psyker now

[ripe obsidian]

I think I won literally 100% of my havoc games without scum in them from 30 > 40, and maybe 10-20% with scum

[ripe obsidian]

Which build is that? Support shock mines?

[weary crane]

Yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I've been using the doggo again

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f33120d-cce0-44fb-ac64-b2fa87a6a7a7/shock-spammer

75s has heavily nerfed it

[verbal thistle]

I'm surprised that wasn't there on release

Weird that they put both on the same timer

[weary crane]

*90s lol

[verbal thistle]

45 sec arby and 90 shock mine

[royal totem]

dunno. i actually like the arb nades

[verbal thistle]

They are amazing

They do everything I want a nade to do

[weary crane]

Now they regen quicker I think it's more viable in havoc

[verbal thistle]

Special in horde dead, burster that didn't explode after push, boss stagger, opens bulwarks, and anti ritual

[weary crane]

Rotten armour and healing have gone too right?

[verbal thistle]

Red stim blight ritual in rotation

[weary crane]

Yeah so shock mines are pretty useless now anyway

Rip

Anyway, Fatshark listened to me and removed crit peril Restriction on KF so I'm happy

[verbal thistle]

Pretty sure that's been a bug since they changed it to 100% chance

[royal totem]

anti-ritual?

[verbal thistle]

2 nades with damage increase kills a ritual

[royal totem]

i knew about the rest but i didn't know it does enough damage to kill ritualists

ah

[weary crane]

Nah, it wasn't working right the whole time, but after this patch it now works at max peril

[verbal thistle]

Ahhh

[weary crane]

I think they haven't updated description

[royal totem]

drag me into h40 one day?

[strong gulch]

bonk

also when wtf did I pick up plasteel

[royal totem]

that's a big bonk

[tulip kettle]

XD

that is indeed a bonk 🙂

though so unsatisfying to play with the borked audio

[weary crane]

Now I just need a BB buff so I don't have to take this node to 1 shot gunners

Have to sacrifice anticipation for it

[royal totem]

welp, back to playing solo for now

[ripe obsidian]

I can try

[ripe obsidian]

A 50% cooldown increase is a pretty massive nerf, yeah

[zealous wing]

@tulip kettle ik you have the renders off so here you go

[knotty brook]

Since when do psykers have a new eye colour?!

[zealous wing]

LOOK at how obscured i am ROFL

[zealous wing]

VT2 ownership

or

are they nonglow or glow

weird placement

[weary crane]

It's locked for hivescum no?

[strong gulch]

old

[zealous wing]

if glow, VT2

if not glow, then new i guess

[weary crane]

Bright blue is the only way to go anyway

[zealous wing]

bullshit

i like my orange eyes and you cant stop me

[knotty brook]

Glow, so i guess VT2. But i swear they got added after the VT2 stuff got added. Because ive never seen these before. Until now.

[zealous wing]

cant stop my green-eyed redhead hivescum either

[tulip kettle]

tee hee

tiny hex

[zealous wing]

😂

[long wharf]

yup, event cheese still works

[ripe obsidian]

I can proudly say I got to H40 with all mods turned off, too. Not that I use cheat mods, but still

[strong gulch]

You H40 now??

[weary crane]

No mods for life

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[weary crane]

The modifiers are good now, stims was fixed

But tox gas is still annoying

[strong gulch]

grats

[long wharf]

nevermind, event cheese did not work

[weary crane]

Yeah I don't think they've fixed it

Nah you won't lol, it's because they allowed auras to be switched

[mighty cipher]

Visual thing

Just reload the page

[weary crane]

Yeah you can have talents from abilities while having another

[mighty cipher]

Try leaving the psykharnium

[leaden wind]

I’m calling the lex

[royal totem]

infantry autogun vs vigilant autogun

which is better

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you. Then I immediately lost the next 2 H40 runs on what should've been pretty easy modifiers. Magistrati Rituals + Blight. First time around, we got a brutal gunner seed that just shredded us on the open platform before the mid event. Second one, I screwed up my build and ended up headsploding 2x, then we had a triple ritual. Killed the first 2, but too slow to reach the third, and rushing it caused a bunch of boss spawns.

I had forgotten Empyric Resolve on my bubble build, since I don't use it on Shriek. Which meant I was generating waaaaaaay more peril than expected.

[strong gulch]

@tulip kettle

==================================

[tulip kettle]

we need BIGGER

[strong gulch]

Oh rip

[ripe obsidian]

I am embarassed that I blew myself up twice.

But the team clutched that. It was the triple DH that did us in

What do you think of the name Moony-Sheepus for a Hive Scum? I am probably going to do the male Outlaw voice, because he reminds me of the pirate from Muppet Treasure Island

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F663h2R_FDk

[strong gulch]

I would def know it's you

[ripe obsidian]

I am between Moony-Sheepus and Roony-Sheepus right now. I must ponder further.

[strong gulch]

I personally prefer Moony Sheepus.

[tulip kettle]

i feel like loony sheepus

[strong gulch]

The die rolled and odd an thus has also chosen Moony

[tulip kettle]

wait

you probably already have loony

[ripe obsidian]

I have a second Psyker I never play named Gloomy-Kreepus. I am pleased with that one

[weary crane]

Depends what you're using them for. I personally find it hard to make vigilants effective since you need to hit crit weakspots, and with all the spam and shit moving around in havoc it's hard

[ripe obsidian]

Existing names:
Spoony-Threepus
Loony-Greepus
Goony-Cleepus
Puny-Beepus
Joony-Dreepus
Gloomy-Kreepus

[royal totem]

this is for leveling. i don't have access to anything better yet

i'm searching for delete bosses and ragers

[weary crane]

Infantry is better for that then

[royal totem]

also holy crap i just got dced from dark tide twice while just standing in morningstar

infantry vraks V sound about right?

[cedar delta]

the scoreboard mod works? i've been crashing with it on

[royal totem]

dum dum flak/unyeilding?

[tulip kettle]

need community fixes

i can link you them on gdcos 1 sec

[weary crane]

Yeah I think that used to be columnus which is the best one

[strong gulch]

Boomy Heepus

[tulip kettle]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NjtjxJY5J7WpuvN339x29d1CLeCSqwN7?usp=drive_link

[royal totem]

fair enough. ty for the input

[tulip kettle]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1xLIPDLo8kxLIy5x1W6-kXeWpOj620mu5?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19r4tquSQf8DjsVMStrUek6aqItRjmjrx/view?usp=drive_link

apply these 3 and overwrite existing

[strong gulch]

Yeah do what dom says

[cedar delta]

okie ty

[royal totem]

hmmm...... vet is kinda........ez to level

[restive roost]

What's the curio setup for psyker? Toughness, toughness and health?

[zealous wing]

thats what i run at least

[restive roost]

2 ally revive speed seems comfy enough, I'm thinking gunner resist for the health curio

My luck is really not getting me a 21% health curio, so I'm settling for 20 for now

[tulip kettle]

it literally makes no difference

20% is fine

then yes, 3x CDR

1x gunner resist 1x corruption resist

rest is personal preference, revive speed good

[restive roost]

5% Toughness, 4% CDR, 12% Ally revive speed

[ripe obsidian]

I use 2x 17% toughness, 1x 21% HP, 3x CDR, 3x gunner resist, and 3x toughness or 3x ally revive speed

Corruption resist is also good with current havoc mods

[strong gulch]

butterknife

[restive roost]

Also, is recon lasgun a mobile weapon?

[tulip kettle]

yup corruption res is very good for goop and not getting instad by bursters

very much so

its one of the most common and strongest choices with scriers / right side tree builds

mk 12 with infernus, dum dum, flak and unyield/crit chance

[restive roost]

Cause I'm considering having recon lasgun as my ranged instead of a laspistol for scryer's gaze and greatsword

[tulip kettle]

collat dump

yup

[royal totem]

@deft stump srry it's dinner time over here

[restive roost]

What do I do about CC though? Seems like the huge gaggle of crushers are back compared to the spawns last patch

[tulip kettle]

hit them with your big sword

[restive roost]

And I panic when there are multiple heavy units in front of me

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dont-say-it-cover-your-mouth-be-quiet-gif-16624443

[restive roost]

I'm so used to ogryn and zealot CC

[deft stump]

Ah, Was just, If I'm basically having to solo a quarter of the malice games anyway, why not, lul.

[royal totem]

ah. fair enough. PewPew is only lvl 6 lul

[deft stump]

So no diff with the pubs. I see lvl 7-8 in malice do basically nothing but run ahead, pull a boss, then die to a crusher and then... Me facepalming.

[royal totem]

oh

well

i have kraks

so hard to die to a crusher

guess if like 6 of them show up though i'd be in trouble

[strong gulch]

@zealous wing

[leaden wind]

Fuck moving I guess

[deft stump]

I just found you you need to do the new campaign for EVERY SINGLE CHAR.

Progress is not shared nor can you skip it.

Great, fun.

I hate soloing train on every class.

[restive roost]

Which mark is the really fast, swiss cheese recon lasgun again?

[potent echo]

Oh the special assignment?

Do you need to do it though, isn't it just for story

Penances only unlock once too

[restive roost]

Thangs

[strong gulch]

So scary

[ripe obsidian]

What if I name my Scum "Tomby-" something. Feels fitting for a criminal. But I don't love the shape of the word.

[royal totem]

back to playing uprising :3

@deft stump my chat is glitched as usual btw

[deft stump]

Is why, 69.

[royal totem]

huh?

[wind spruce]

They should make scriers gaze impossible to reduce cooldown during the active phase like rampage & desperado

[weary crane]

It used to be like that but then it was changed because of warp charges

Warp charges are expended on ability use, so not allowing cooldown would negate their effect for gaze

[potent echo]

Unless the trade deal is that scriers gets attack speed

[wind spruce]

Yeah they'd have to code around that

[wind spruce]

I'm not talking to you btw

[weary crane]

Gaze can't be spammed like creeping flames so it doesn't make much of a difference anyway

[wind spruce]

With that change warp charges would actually be relevant, though

Since PA wouldn't just take half the CD off during active phase

[weary crane]

Idk, I don't like the idea of cooldown just not working for some abilities

[wind spruce]

It would still work, just not during the active phase

[strong gulch]

@tulip kettle @zealous wing Hopping back in

[heavy dagger]

does anyone want to do the event on auric?

[restive roost]

[strong gulch]

I'm running the shivs and knives build Cole posted for scum. Granted, I'm doing damnation, but it feels pretty strong.

[heavy dagger]

the one with the glocks as the range weapon?

[strong gulch]

Yes

[verbal thistle]

just finished my scum solo

[strong gulch]

but I am using the dual autos because I don't have the stubs built yet

[verbal thistle]

was an auric I-II

[gray juniper]

The more I learn about 40k the more I’m convinced it’s British ethno cultural trauma processing

[heavy dagger]

i might have to take just a dream off 😭

[deft stump]

I feel like Loose Cannon is just someone who ended up in the Millitarium over the hive gangs. Just has that feel.

Then again, Been playing Fatalist and Loose Cannon into all the Gangers.

[glacial field]

Hello fellow mad people

I’m new to the game and want to know you guys general tips for using pysker

[verbal thistle]

1: early game/leveling just worry about reaching max level, do not base anything on how it performs underleveled

2: dont use staffs until max level, they dont perform well underlevled

3: use assail blitz for early game, destroys everything

4: staying high peril is more beneficial then low, since higher you are the more damage and damage reduction you have with talents

5: check pins for weapon/talent setups

[royal totem]

it's a less frustrating leveling experience if you have at least 1 other person that's competant with you

[glacial field]

Rly?

[verbal thistle]

yes

[glacial field]

Honestly I found staffs so much better compared to guns

Not having to reload is nice

[verbal thistle]

fair enough

[glacial field]

And cooler

[verbal thistle]

if you want to then do it

[glacial field]

Though one thing I hate

[strong gulch]

You can use staves while leveling, but they don't really reflect a fullly invested build

[verbal thistle]

its your copy of the game

[strong gulch]

They scale pretty hard and need talents

[glacial field]

I get that

People forget they have a pysker a lot of the time

So sometimes ( a lot of times) I’m getting swarms of trash mobs in my face constantly

Ofc it could be due to my bad positioning but also what melee weapon works well for horde clear and protection

[strong gulch]

Your horde clear while leveling will be assail mostly.

Assail will solve softer elites, specials, and smaller.

[oblique ember]

It may be my zelot playstyle.coming through but i fine the force greatsword to be a fine chaff clearer when you dont want to deal with peril for a bit

[strong gulch]

It's even better with peril and talents

But you don't get access to it right away.

[oblique ember]

It is but it doesnt automatically build peril for you

[glacial field]

i asked in game

[strong gulch]

The only thing that does is SG.

[glacial field]

someone said the force sword can block both melee and ranged

seems too good not to take

wierd how i never knew sooner tbh