psyker-class

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno needs high enemy density and time for fire to scale to be effective

If enemies die too quickly or are too sparse, it's eh

[feral needle]

Is the best way to hold right click then ledt click and repeat? There isnt another MK that you can just hold for longer?

[ripe obsidian]

Best is to charge to ~45% or lower to keep Blaze Away stacks up

LMB for stagger

RMB to kill

There are no other staff marks

Four staves there were, and four there shall always be

[feral needle]

What build do meleeker use? What weapon?

[ripe obsidian]

Check the pinned build guide

I have many builds, mine and others', with detailed info

I probably have more melee builds than anything else tbh

[strong gulch]

The stripy pants are finally back.

[ripe obsidian]

Clown pants!

[zinc phoenix]

hive scum is dope af

feels like meleeker i love it

[ripe obsidian]

But only half as dope as you

[strong gulch]

right

[iron phoenix]

returning player, had to start over (from xbox, now on pc), I always liked playing smite psyker and zappin heretics. Some player just said "good luck" is smite not as good now?

[ripe obsidian]

Check the pinned build guide for a few paragraphs on smite

And how people feel about it

[iron phoenix]

okay! thank you c:

[strong gulch]

game crashed

[iron phoenix]

ohh okay, i really enjoy the melee in this game as well and use dodging very frequently

[ripe obsidian]

As the thingy said, smite is strong, but it can negatively impact the experience in a way nothing else does. Can being the operative word.

But melee Psyker is also very viable if you want to try that

[iron phoenix]

Yeah I see why, so far I've been using it when they all funnel into a hallway so my team can mow em down

basically everyone im playing with (randoms) is the new class and just spamming dual smgs

[ripe obsidian]

So it shall be for a while, unfortunately

[kind jay]

im liking this look

[golden remnant]

mate thats fire

[deft stump]

Guess I'm back to having to clutch in heresy again.

[royal totem]

Karien the carry

i'm carrying somebody in damnation atm

[deft stump]

Quickplaying pubs, so everyone is just questionable.

Back to memeing with a friend in malice.

[fiery stratus]

just use tac axe

[royal totem]

sometimes i just get barreled off and die anyways lul

[deft stump]

I have shivs.

[ripe obsidian]

Pls do not shiv me Karien

[fiery stratus]

tac axe can be upgraded though

without spending a ton

[ripe obsidian]

Do not replace your piercing stares with piercing shivs

[viscid gazelle]

does the assail cooldown reduction actually reduce it as it looks the exact same?

[zealous wing]

it is faster

can confirm because i know i dont have it, i run out too soon

[deft stump]

True. But I just ended up playing normally with shivs anyway. Shivs feels like... Knoife but better and with Zealot throwing knoife.

[royal totem]

Im not loving scum.

Havent got to release chemical warfare everywhere 🙁

[deft stump]

So the stimm use ult doesn't work with the stimm supply.

You do not get a stack when using the stim in your ult.

So you path it for selfishness only.

[mighty cipher]

About this grenade crash. Does anyone know more about it?

[deft stump]

If you stimm before ulting, the supply doesn't buff from my test.

And if you ult with a stimm, it uses it so you can't stimm after or so.

[ripe obsidian]

"Stat buff: grenade_ability_cooldown_modifier

Reduces Assail's projectile recharge time from 3s to 2.1s per projectile; does not interact with the 'Enhanced Blitz' difficulty mutator."

[deft stump]

So, can anyone tell me what is the difference between both needler marks?

They handle the SAME, they do the same swap thing.

WHAT EVEN.

[royal totem]

supposedly one makes enemy explode when they die of toxin or something and one does something diff from that?

[deft stump]

Oh.

Also, i forgot, Twins and Capts are cara?

Or flak?

For DoT.

[royal totem]

sorry i'm uncertain ._.

[deft stump]

Now to figure out how many stacks of chem is max.

[royal totem]

30 or 31 i believe it was

30

[wind wind]

I emcountered lots of people calling this new class shit. And then there is me, who plays melee psyker and i felt right at Home 😄

Also, hiver at level 30 now after roughly 9 hours of grinding

[ripe obsidian]

I think flak

[ripe obsidian]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

[versed hedge]

spread_warpfire_on_kill = psyker_spread_warpfire_on_kill

dont use

[ripe obsidian]

?

[jovial juniper]

That could be Perilous Combustion

It's core talent

Hmmmm

Except it isn't Perilous Combustion

[daring comet]

i love meleeker and im a brand new psyker

[jovial juniper]

Oh That's wildfire

[versed hedge]

Of course it's Warpfire

[jovial juniper]

Nope

Wildfire

That's what I said

[strong gulch]

0 days since someone said wildfire bad or don't use it

[jovial juniper]

Anyways got my Ogryn stuff from streamer

[versed hedge]

lol

[jovial juniper]

Big Man shirtless

Me fight good

Me go trench

I don't even remember what I run on Oggy

[wraith sphinx]

Lol, same here! The negative reactions are to be expected since a glass cannon class cannot be anything but niche in its appeal to players

It has also been interesting to see a sprinkling of new arbys queueing up alongside the hivescum

[jovial juniper]

I'm a luchador

[strong gulch]

================================================

[wraith sphinx]

Cat alert

[jovial juniper]

There's an error going on

They ate the rest of the words

Can't have shit on Tertium

[viscid matrix]

Who said that? Are they stupid?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. Wildfire is baked into the warpfire code for some reason. It's a big ol' if statement

[ripe obsidian]

That debate should have died with the tree rework. >:(

[strong gulch]

Seems daily rn.

[potent echo]

People here used to tell me it's bad

[dusk void]

Is NumericUI bugging out for anyone here?

Seems the game is crashing b/c of it

[daring comet]

yeah turn that shit off

I got NumericUI, Scoreboard, Extended Weapon Customization all turned off.

[dusk void]

I'll give it a try. Thanks

[deft stump]

It's literally Zealot on crack. IDK what they were expecting. Feast or Famine gameplay.

[strong gulch]

[deft stump]

The chem melts them.

If this is needler, lul.

[strong gulch]

It's not.

I haven't seen those yet.

[deft stump]

Bonesaw same, but I hate it.

[strong gulch]

haven't seen that yet either

[deft stump]

Rather even just use crowbar.

Shivs still best.

Is like mk 3 and mk 6 knoife had a baby that hits harder with shittier uncanny.

Just move tech by some is H L H L which is annoying.

Not as good as knoife for sure.

[spice oar]

Have you seen the special purple coating that’s good against armor?

[deft stump]

Yes, but is brittle.

Thing is, the weapon sucks if I get horded and nobody helps.

I'm already gambling if I hit and if it decides to poison things.

[spice oar]

Is it random?

From what I’ve seen it’s just on hit

[deft stump]

340+ ping.

[spice oar]

Ah

[deft stump]

Servers feel worse than usual.

[spice oar]

Yeah I’ve been bugging all day as well man

You ain’t alone

[deft stump]

You are talking to someone who shot a trapper 6 times with a needler and the bitch runs off fine.

[spice oar]

Yeah, at least you got shots off

[deft stump]

2 shots will kill. 1 shot and a delay will kill.

[spice oar]

When I was playing psyker I would somehow fire blanks or something and it’d never finish the animation

[deft stump]

Bitch ate 3 toxic knoifes as well the next time... yeah no.

Someone got netted.

Just stabbed her to death when she was reloading.

[daring comet]

IS hive scum glass cannon?

[deft stump]

ABSOLUTE.

[daring comet]

even more so then psyker?

[spice oar]

Yes

[deft stump]

If old meleeker was glass cannon.

Ganger is GLASS GLASS Cannon.

[spice oar]

He has good defensive tools and mobility, but absolutely zero in terms of toughness and health

[deft stump]

You do zealot bs with free red/blue stimm on demand.

[spice oar]

He gets hit twice by a poxwalker he’s downed

[deft stump]

Rocket lawnchair is oggy boom but stronger with smaller AoE.

Watched a roided up ganger 2 shot bosses.

When they spawn half the area away.

[deft stump]

Feast or famine playstyle. Psyker regains toughness easily in comparison outside of killing.

[wind wind]

I think more than any class it rewards being good at the basic usage of gameplay machanics and it conversly punishes those that arent.

Especially movement skills, ressource management, target selection and terrain usage.

[deft stump]

You gotta dodge dance or die horribly.

Kinda bad in tight areas imo, but open areas are also death sentences.

[daring comet]

hehe

[wind wind]

Ganger thrives on half cover. Especially If you can dance from one to another

[deft stump]

And dodge dance at 340+ ping is as spicy as you can think.

[deft stump]

Why not too tight maps and not too open maps.

[wind wind]

We all had our day ruined by the sputtering heart attack that is this piece of shit engine sometimes

[deft stump]

Tight maps, no room to dodge well, let alone dodge strafe. Open maps... moment no dodge, you die from bullets.

Or lazers.

[wind wind]

Those dont exist

Jokes aside. Thats what i mean . Maps that have some space, but also stuff between the open spaces.

[wind wind]

Thats why i use the ranged ability for traversing large areas.

If you have another ability you gotta find a different way

Dodge sliding till the keyboard breaks lmao

[deft stump]

I have what is a boss stimm supply.

Rending red, aspd.

[daring comet]

I was just falling in love with meleeker

[deft stump]

Planning to go do the ranged thing whenever I'm done sharing stimms.

Cos nobody ever walks into it to get a free 15 sec stimm buff.

And I usually chase the highest dpser to slap that thing in their face.

[eager token]

are ppl just rly bad at hive ganger or something

[ripe obsidian]

What if I want to die horribly

[deft stump]

Well, you give players Meleeker but even more paper.

Think the avg pub skill on it.

Yep.

They explodium.

[royal totem]

@quiet inlet srry playing with a friend

i have nearly helped him to 30 lul

[quiet inlet]

all good, it was a probing invite 😄

[daring comet]

I look forward to seeing some Gangers in my lobby

[royal totem]

i don't

all i see are gangers in my lobby

and they're normally atrocious in the like super basic ways.

explode barrels and everything all the time way

[daring comet]

...All i see is them in lobby but not in my games Q_Q

[royal totem]

what are you playing to not get them?

[nocturne wasp]

Ready for mayhem

[quiet inlet]

so apparently they have all the accoutrements for a Vaas from Far Cry 3 recreation, minus the voice

[deft stump]

Also, ammo gobbo worse than other players.

Like, I never seen a map so picked clean yet there's 2 ppl screaming for ammo... on malice.

[potent echo]

Shouldn't scum aura help with that

[strong gulch]

I must be doing it wrong then. I've never been that pressed for ammo.

I'm hoovering up nades tho.

[daring comet]

Damnation QP lol?

Best thing about playing psyker is not needing to fight over ammo

[royal totem]

they don't run that one

[royal totem]

ah. a lot are running the highest exp one on the board

[daring comet]

i see

[potent echo]

But if you play staff psyker you can't ping and take their ammo

[deft stump]

No, because they run constantly to pick them out of aura range.

[potent echo]

Puppet master meta era is here

😔

[royal totem]

it's so frustrating. they provide no cover while you're doing objectives

[deft stump]

Cos they dodge half the map away to not die.

[daring comet]

LOL THAT FACE IS DISTURBING

[potent echo]

[strong gulch]

wtf

[royal totem]

YAY friend hit 30

[potent echo]

Time for havic

[nocturne wasp]

[ripe obsidian]

I'll havoc you

[royal totem]

oooh i have a veryyyyy fun havoc 🙂

havoc 30 on power matrix with rituals and The Blight Spreads 🙂 (ignore the pox gas 4th modifier)

actuall havoc isn't dogshit atm i think it's Toll+stims+the Blight Spreads+rituals in rotation atm

if they fixed the rituals it's not dogshit anyways

[potent echo]

I'm fine as long as no rotten armor

[royal totem]

i'm not ok with rituals if they didn't fix it

[potent echo]

I had 3 rituals at once before

Plus captain and cspawn

[plucky flax]

How is goop not dog shit?

[royal totem]

if my other option is rot armor garden i'll take it

[potent echo]

The hourglass map is just cursed

[plucky flax]

I will take stim rot or red rot over goop any day.

RIP playing aggressively melee.

[potent echo]

Garden is the easiest imo

[royal totem]

errrr depends what it's with

and depends what EXACTLY is gardened

[potent echo]

Captain with rotten armor squad

[nocturne wasp]

[royal totem]

yeah .......... i hate that

unless i'm vet with kraks

hive scum doesn't really suit my playstyle 🙁

or maybe just these weps don't idk

i'm finding leveling it kinda torture

[daring comet]

me leveling psyker

[nocturne wasp]

I'm sure once you max it and play around with the trees a bit you'll find a way to play that you like

[royal totem]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

not sure i can stand 15 more levels

[nocturne wasp]

I'm only at 6

I've been rebuilding my other classes trees

[royal totem]

i've got at least one build on every other class

[strong gulch]

I don't.

Too hard.

No talents for now.

[daring comet]

I need to find a build for my zealot..

[royal totem]

idk i just play prayer zealot

[potent echo]

Shroudfield crucis is a drug

[forest saddle]

Shroud zealot is really a drug

[potent echo]

I would play it more but havoc players are so close minded

[forest saddle]

Oneshots all monstrosities easily xD

[royal totem]

i've gotten into havocs as shroud zealot

[potent echo]

Basically solves any boss problems for your team

Depends on your region I guess

[royal totem]

NA

though i play a lot of EU

[plucky flax]

NA karien

[royal totem]

I dont carry ._.

Unlike Karien

[plucky flax]

Tru

[royal totem]

Nobody as good as Karien.

Already at h40 im sure 😏

[strong gulch]

I should check my havoc. Bet I'm 1.

[royal totem]

No way

[potent echo]

Does havoc get hard stuck at 20

I haven't played for a year and it was at 20 I think

[ripe obsidian]

I am at 32 currently.

But I am currently playing Barktide

[verbal thistle]

Blight is back plus wildfire bug

They keep going downhill with havoc

[strong gulch]

It's not all SB is it? Just wildfire?

[verbal thistle]

Gives me more time to do solos I guess

Yeah from testing

It was only wilfire

[strong gulch]

kk

[ripe obsidian]

I saw that there's a variable misnamed somewhere

[plucky flax]

What's wildfire bug?

[verbal thistle]

I was running blaze trauma with PC

[ripe obsidian]

an extra psyker_ tagged on somewhere

[strong gulch]

Am havoc 22.

[verbal thistle]

If wildfire touches demonhosts the server crashes

[strong gulch]

no 20

[plucky flax]

Real

[verbal thistle]

Psyker nerf

[strong gulch]

why did it say 22?

[plucky flax]

The blessing is too powerful

[strong gulch]

I don't think I've done enclavum baross in havocs

I bet people can do some fast clears on that map

[verbal thistle]

Yes

There is no team checkpoints

So whoever gets to the end just needs to press button

Plus if they know boss skip it will save time at end event

[sturdy reef]

its not a horrible map

[royal totem]

Boss skip?

[sturdy reef]

can be pretty grindy if you dont want to cheese

[verbal thistle]

It's my fav map

Gameplay wise

[sturdy reef]

I like it, wouldnt call it my fav

[verbal thistle]

All the triggers are in good areas

Easy to solo

[sturdy reef]

Im actually not sure what my fav havoc map is

[royal totem]

Can you cheese midevent?

[verbal thistle]

Only 1 bad spawn area

At end event is cheese

[sturdy reef]

I have a disdain for comms plex rn

comms plex rituals is buns

[royal totem]

How cheese end event

[deft stump]

A very specific pair of barrels.

Just be ready to shoot things.

[royal totem]

Huh i...see

[potent echo]

What's a boss skip

Do you jump over the boss trigger

[nocturne wasp]

Well first you need the right sized rope

And sometimes music helps

If you ask reeeeeaaal nice

[potent echo]

[nocturne wasp]

They'll start skipping the rope with you

[potent echo]

🏤

[summer prairie]

The first one replaces the file in the original scoreboard mod. The chem grenade initial explosion uses default grenade damage template, so I can't override that into blitz without some other issues, so it gets counted as ranged damage @plucky flax

[fierce crest]

Syllogism once again the scoreboard hero

[torn kernel]

Chat have they buffed voidstrike yet

[fierce crest]

It had it's time in the sun

Infinite ammo plasma gun is no more

[torn kernel]

🥺

[nocturne wasp]

Everybody is too busy doing Drugs now

[potent echo]

Give me voidlaser staff

Thanks

[fathom dust]

Recently coming back to the game, did the force greatsword always have 2 marks?

[torn kernel]

Depending on who you ask in this channel there's only one good one

[fathom dust]

which one?

[torn kernel]

Honestly it's just about moveset preference

[fathom dust]

So did both exist when the greatsword was released?

Wondering if I just don't recall Mk 6 or if it's new

[torn kernel]

I honestly can't remember at this point lmao but i'm pretty sure it came with two marks

[quartz barn]

It did

But ngl the marks are kinda hidden, you barely interact with any of the top right options as is

Same thing with scum now

[fathom dust]

I mean, I've tested all the marks of the weapons I've used, if it existed I tried it out. I just don't remember it having more than 1

[quartz barn]

Literally realized after a few games that there might be other marks and should prob check their moveset

[strong gulch]

Both mks of FGS came out at the same time.

[torn kernel]

Is mk6 the one with the easier stab

[quartz barn]

Mk6 has single target attacks

[daring comet]

I made the mistake of playing Auric..and now I hate my teamates

[quartz barn]

Mk8 has sweeps, but with the stab push attack

[torn kernel]

Yeah and just l1 l2 block for hordes right

[quartz barn]

Uhh ye i think so

[torn kernel]

I like that one lol it's easier to weave shards into

[fathom dust]

Oh dang, I think I actually will prefer mk 6

[torn kernel]

Most do tbh

[potent echo]

6 has higher sustained dps

[torn kernel]

It's borderline braindead to just spam heavies into thicc boys

[potent echo]

Also stab chains from special it's great for keeping up warprider and unstable

[strong gulch]

Doing the special on FGS 6 for some CC (and maybe some MM) to set up a H2.

Boost you
stop them stab them

[torn kernel]

Especially when you have the uh killstreak mod or whatever it's called

Hella satisfying

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I will have gotten H35 tonight

1 loss followed by 5 wins. Neato.

[strong gulch]

Yay wins.

[ripe obsidian]

But I turned off mods because of crashes, so I dunno if I'm getting carried

[strong gulch]

Maybe I give beans some builds tomorrow.

[ripe obsidian]

@rocky stream am I getting carried or am I holding my own?

[strong gulch]

No mod time is sad time.

How will I keep track of barrels boomed?

I am sure you're holding your own.

I honestly kept finding myself caring too much about scoreboard, so I intentionally made mine cursed.

[quartz barn]

No values for teammates and no timer on abilities sucks

Also the color of the symbol filling up to show its cooldown sucks

Like im just spamming it because i cant tell if its up or if its a few seconds off

No ammo count on the pickups is also weird because i just auto assume im full lmao

[strong gulch]

In your defense, even if your ability is up you still have to spam it because the game just ignores inputs or makes your ability go on cool down for a couple seconds.

So annoying

[vestal trench]

anyone have a quick rundown on how the classes changed in terms of havoc strength/role since the tree reworks? i hear psyker became less glass and more cannon, vet being op, and arbiter still being the "play this too much and you develop bad habits from never being punished" class

idk about the rest or if the ones i listed are even accurate

[quartz barn]

Unrelated, but people have been complaining about downs on scum, probably because of bad habits from arbi

[azure sun]

I’d slip a footnote on that question with is shockstaff a solid option? Used to run it a bit, but now seems like if you’re running a staff, you’re either running flame or voidball.

[vestal trench]

yeah i've had my struggles but i haven't been floor inspector so far, maybe cause most my hours were on psyker before i took a break

now im pretty sure all my trees on all my classes reset

most all scum teams i've been on have had some mention of "im not used to being this squishy" from randos

[azure sun]

I think they did, and that infuriates me because I don’t remember like 80% of my builds

[vestal trench]

half the time they mention playing mostly oggy and arbi

[quartz barn]

I actually really like the scum playstyle

Similar to purg: using your gun in melee range and relying on dodging

[vestal trench]

scrier's gaze: the class (less warp corruption, more ketamine)

[quartz barn]

Also that ye

[daring comet]

scriers gaze is my crutch

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker - stronger than ever
Vet - strong, versatile, fragile
Zealot - exists, I guess
Ogryn - basically the same as before, always nice to have
Arby - good at making space, strong frontline, shock mine cooldown got nerfed significantly

If Psyker is a 10/10, Vet is 8/10, Oggy is probably 7/10, Arby is 6/10, Zealot is 5/10. This is per my 3am brain, so take it with a grain of salt

[vestal trench]

damn even the rework couldnt save zealot

[cold ivy]

my not necessarily accurate view of oggy and arby in havoc is that oggy has an easier time into captains/twins (because of good toughness on hit + taunt lets you hold them while your team nukes the shields down), while arby has an easier time into massed crushers (low cooldown break the line + regenerating shock mines/nades + can eat multiple overheads thanks to true grit)

[ripe obsidian]

Arby is better at making space in dense hordes, I think. But I'd almost always rather have a tauntgryn

[cold ivy]

force of will + concussive doesn't work on shielded enemies so on arby your toughness regen is significantly lower against captain/twins

[ripe obsidian]

This is also true

I also just can't play Ogryn. The movement doesn't click for me

[cold ivy]

ogryn into massed crushers feels very dangerous to me because my dodge feels like it's not very good and mass stagger options are also not great (idk if slab shield push can stagger multiple, i normally run pickaxe)

[ripe obsidian]

I can play Psyker and Arby at H40. Have done H40 on Zealot. Vet and Ogryn are... not easy H40s for me

[cold ivy]

taunt has a small interrupt but it's not as strong as btl which floors everything

the more havoc i play the more i believe in thammer zealot

[potent echo]

Embrace shroud hammer zealot

[cold ivy]

a lot of the "standard" comps are great into gunner/special/elite and can handle boss/captain/twins, but under very high pressure when there's, like, double boss + twins + special rush we just can't nuke twins down fast enough while keeping everything under control

and it would be nice to be able to just remove them

[potent echo]

You don't need 4 control abilities

At most you just need 1 shield and 1 shout

Depends on how well coordinated the team is anyway

[ripe obsidian]

Ideal team comp is probably Psyker + Vet + Ogryn + Arby, I think. Strong boss killing, strong CC, strong horde clear, etc.

Arby and Vet are both adept at clearing specials

And getting into the thick of things

Not sure what Zealot really offers

And I do not know enough about Scum to judge

[quartz barn]

Scum can fill depending on build i think

Can replace vet as gunner, zealot as melee brawler

[ripe obsidian]

At the risk of using D&D terms, Scum seems to be a striker, much like zealot

[quartz barn]

Cant tell if they have the damage output for hordes, but will almost definitely be top tier for monsters due to poison, bleed abd crit

[ripe obsidian]

Quite mobile, fairly squishy, good at focusing priority targets

Do they get bleed from specific weapons?

[quartz barn]

Daggers

[deft stump]

Shivs and Knoifes.

[quartz barn]

Axe has poison build in i think, but havent used it too much

[cold ivy]

it's a pain in the ass to play blight spreads without beacon of purity zealot, but chem dependency scum might be even better because you can get total immunity to corruption damage from stimm crate

idk if you can keep stimm crate active 100% of the time though

[deft stump]

You can.

[cold ivy]

nice

[deft stump]

You need to run a 15 weak stimm.

[quartz barn]

Used 800k dockets on shiv to not get 60 mobility so cant spam buy other weapons yet

[cold ivy]

oic

[deft stump]

And that the node where your ult goes off CD when you get a stimm.

[cold ivy]

then whenever your stimm cools down you get your crate back

[deft stump]

15 sec CD ult.

[cold ivy]

makes sense

it's kind of a sad way to play but if it works it works

i guess if you also run the toxin explosion on expiry, it's effectively a 15s cd chem grenade that you can only drop at your feet

[deft stump]

Not.

Unless you take fast effecting stimms.

XD

[cold ivy]

gotta take all the nodes

[deft stump]

You need all 3 nodes to make the memes work.

[quartz barn]

Karien already working on the chem crate only run

[deft stump]

Wot.

No. My carries don't wanna play this week.

[quartz barn]

I mean

[deft stump]

And with how awful pubs are atm in just malice...

[quartz barn]

They dont get to do anything when you play

Youre too good

[deft stump]

I am not.

Seriously.

[quartz barn]

And they prob want to experience scum for themselves

[quartz barn]

Ive just been running heresy maelstrom exclusively

Yes thats a thing apparently

[ripe obsidian]

I'm trying to hit H40 before Scum swarms havoc

H35 atm

[quartz barn]

Tried lvl 1 am but it was weaker monsters when i got on so not doable

With blessed goons

Scab shooter takes 2 single target shiv heavies to kill with the unupgradable grey

[tulip kettle]

any changes to maps or mods in rotation 6?

beyond the much needed blue stim nerf

[deft stump]

I heard Mercantile is no longer in.

[tulip kettle]

😮

[ripe obsidian]

Is it my rotation?

[tulip kettle]

i wonder why

[ripe obsidian]

Mods seem to be stims, goop, final toll

[tulip kettle]

erm

you are just guru

sorry if i offended you.

[ripe obsidian]

I thought you meant rotation number 6

and I was thus claiming it

Maps are different, too

I did Enclavum, Magistrati, and a couple others

[cold ivy]

stimms, blight spreads, heinous rituals, final toll are the 4 blessings iirc

[ripe obsidian]

Oh yeah, rituals

That's correct

[tulip kettle]

so blight in garden out, rits in rot out

[ripe obsidian]

Pretty easy modifiers overall

[tulip kettle]

interesting

my thoughts exactly

easiest pool in a long time

[ripe obsidian]

I just kinda brute forced 30 to 35 (maps were 34 to 39, I think)

[cold ivy]

blight spreads + heinous rituals would probably be my favored mods as long as the rituals don't spawn in a fucked location

[tulip kettle]

[ripe obsidian]

Final Toll honestly isn't that bad now, since everyone's DPS has like doubled since it was last around

[cold ivy]

i just don't like final toll captains

[tulip kettle]

toll was only sort of problematic with rot

because cant force sword PA abuse as safely

[cold ivy]

also i just realized they adjusted rotten armor but then took it out of the pool

so the next time we see rotten armor will be next season (?)

[ripe obsidian]

Fixed rotten armor is gonna suck

Stims are honestly not bad at all now that blue enemies are not immortal and unstaggerable

Goop is an annoying modifier, but largely meaningless if you have a zealot with the aura

Rituals is only bad if you have a bad map

[cold ivy]

fixed rotten armor is something like 143% more hp compared to normal when taking into account the DR step function

but 40% of that is in the 75% DR from 100% hp to 90% hp

so if you have a nonmelee/nonranged way to deal 1k damage, rotten armor becomes basically as easy to kill as a normal crusher

e.g. 7 stacks of chem toxin with 0.9 carapace ADM

[ripe obsidian]

I think a 48.6% HP increase

So 150% total HP, essentially

Not counting stims or purple or whatever else

[cold ivy]

oh... is rotten additive?

[ripe obsidian]

Not sure how it plays with other damage resists

[cold ivy]

no there's no way it's additive, otherwise red stimm + rotten would be unkillable by direct means

cuz red is 60% and rotten is 75% at full

[ripe obsidian]

I mean...

[tulip kettle]

Lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Blue + tox gas

Literally was unkillable

[tulip kettle]

My sweet summer child

[cold ivy]

i don't know what you're talking about... fatshark would never do such a thing...

if they are additive then we will have to rely on dots or nades

[ripe obsidian]

It appears to be multiplicative in the code

[cold ivy]

thank goodness

multiplicative means they will take 10% incoming

which is still not great but at least it's something

[ripe obsidian]

It's just gonna be a slog

[cold ivy]

i believe in chem toxin

with all buffs up it's like 3k carapace dps

and bypasses rotten

[ripe obsidian]

And further narrow the meta to kraks and inferno and trauma

Plus maybe chem toxin. Maybe

[cold ivy]

time will tell!

[ripe obsidian]

I have not bought Scum, not sure I will, but the only build path that interests me is the DoT

I love DoTs and summons in every game I play

But from what I have seen, the right side of the tree is maybe the weakest? Ranged > melee > support/dot?

[deft stump]

Chem 'nade are hilariously op and game breaking... both in the literal and figurative sense.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, the ADMs seem busted

[deft stump]

It also causes my pc to chug due to the particles not getting lowered by settings.

It's like always at max or so.

And when they explode... is like 2.0. of oggy boxes.

[ripe obsidian]

Once I get H40, I might get Scum.

People are saying it's a fun class

[deft stump]

Is zealot on crack with vet stuff.

Old Meleeker if you wanna consider how glass cannon.

Chems are the funny part.

[wraith sphinx]

guys this means the sedition difficulty is still in the game right?

[ripe obsidian]

Chems are all that interest me. I think the bonesaw also applies it?

[deft stump]

Bonesaw kinda meh except as support weapon imo.

[wraith sphinx]

I'm kind of dissapointed in the chems ngl

[deft stump]

I get stuck in hordes too often with it.

[wraith sphinx]

the cooldown and the viscosity mechanics are a bit too harsh

[deft stump]

The higher your lvl, the harder it is for penances.

[ripe obsidian]

Viscosity?

[deft stump]

Yeah, to CD

You need 50%+.

[wraith sphinx]

Stack too much of the same type of bonus to your stimm and it harshly increases the cooldown

[deft stump]

You start with 25~ secs... now I need close to 55 secs.

[deft stump]

Not even that.

Just going to like the second node on all is enough to watch the CD be insane.

[wraith sphinx]

ok nvm I was partially wrong

when you FIRST unlock the stimm lab at like lvl 5 the viscosity values are so bad it's not worth using

this gets much better at higher levels

[deft stump]

You just need it at 50% for the penances. Gonna suck when I gotta do the toughness one.

[wraith sphinx]

I might not even do them

[deft stump]

Cos red/blue is hilarious.

[wraith sphinx]

regular map stimms are just better to me

[deft stump]

They are, but limited.

[wraith sphinx]

plus I get dibs on all of them because every other scummer is running custom stimms

[deft stump]

Rending strength and zoomzoom blue funni.

[late yew]

Does anyone know if you get more masteries xp per difficulty, or per mission xp?

[jovial juniper]

💀

Lore accurate waking up the dh and everyone dies

[wind spruce]

Are you running shock and awe and wrath/cleave talents?

It's basically mandatory

[cold yacht]

Hmmm lightning

[jovial juniper]

wrath

Weak Aura

[plucky flax]

Get better carries

[cold yacht]

Use smite

[wind spruce]

Ideally shock & awe + deci, but I was emphasising the need for cleave aswell

[jovial juniper]

Oh so that's why they fixed Shock and Awe shenanigans

[wind spruce]

Yeah the saw goes from barely getting through to a second dreg bruiser to smacking around 5 shotgunners at once if built right. Pretty comical and goes hard af with its status effects

[fringe harbor]

Does rotten armor count as infested

[jovial juniper]

Nope

Would have been much better if they did

[zealous wing]

still cara/flak depending on what enemy/area of body

crushers full cara
maulers cara head
ragers cara torso
rest of them is flak

[fierce crystal]

this cliffhanger penence for psyker makes me want to cry

[wraith sphinx]

I'm just gonna spam a 1 node stimm to do a penance I want and then probably never touch stimms again

[zealous wing]

nothing makes you feel invincible as a psyker quite like playing psyker after playing hive scum jfc

what would normally be like, 1/8 of a wound of chip on psyker turns into half a wound on hivescum, if not more

we spent so much time joking about "dont get hit" they made a class based entirely around "if you get hit by a single poxxer youre probably dead"

[spice oar]

Malleus monastratum will never be done by me cause I can’t find private lobbies

[zealous wing]

just ask, we help all the time here

[last shore]

At least until the later levels then you get some good defensive stuff

[zealous wing]

still one fuck up and youre dead, other classes tend to have a few bits of forgiveness, this class isnt that

[last shore]

And on top of that, if you’re good about consistently rotating your desperado with CDR stimm, can be nearly invincible

[last shore]

Take the middle lower defense perks

[dapper grotto]

is executor blessing on knives still bugged? know it was a while back but dunno if fixed

[zealous wing]

cant quite yet, working on the dependancy keystone for the penance torso i want

[last shore]

Well. When you get there, you’ll see a big difference especially if you’re good at rotating desperado with CDR stim lab

Before I got off last night, ran an entire mission taking 0 health dmg

[jovial juniper]

How exactly bugged?

[zealous wing]

i'd probably take less damage if i didnt prioritise the normal person just trying to play the game

[dapper grotto]

for a while it was 5% strength for all tiers

dunno if fix

[jovial juniper]

Afaik it's fixed now

[sturdy dagger]

why did my psyker talent trees reset yet again

mini rework again or did they just feel like it?

[zealous wing]

because they made blitz/abilities able to be swapped without undoing the whole tree, and it caused trees to poof

[sturdy dagger]

amazing

a nothing burger change in trade for a complete nuke of all my builds

fartshark

[zealous wing]

yup, such joy

i dont understand why it reset everything but hey, at least we can finally stop needing 2 builds for two different blitz's... (most of us will still have those builds for easy swapping)

[jovial juniper]

Wouldn't call it nothing burger

But sure

[marble crater]

"We made changes to stop you from needing to reset the tree for a simple change, as a result we reset the entire tree" Ironic

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-into-the-spiderverse-across-the-spiderverse-beyond-the-spiderverse-gif-10957135508516396063

[sturdy dagger]

nuking all my builds and most mods is nuking my care for this update

[jovial juniper]

Can't really blame them for mods breaking

Can ya

It's kinda out of their control

That being said
Only mod loader broke for me

Mfw you don't run 80 mods

[sturdy dagger]

yeah but

kinda

a tiny bit

not gonna pretend like i really know what this means but >

this has nuked like half my mods

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

[sturdy dagger]

this isnt even aimed at fatshark but i kinda wish more dev teams kept modders in consideration atleast when updating there games cause like....u did just make atleast a third of ur community crash on startup with that

[quartz barn]

Afaik modders can see what changed pretty quickly, making changes in their code rather trivial

It just takes more time when fs changes internal names on top of fixing it for the new update

[quartz barn]

As someone who works a lot with datamodels its not even about keeping modders in mind, but keeping everything structured and named properly so that you dont end up with a ton of data that the average person literally cant understand

As long as people have access to the source code people will find their way

[plucky flax]

Be me and not play for a few days

[quartz barn]

Poor karien

She was bored because there werent people to carry

[plucky flax]

Yeah she has no one yo carry this week

Veri sad

[quartz barn]

[plucky flax]

She can try to ask if syllo needs a carry i guess

[jovial juniper]

Anyone asked Clad about what they think about hiver?

[primal aurora]

Hiver seems like a zealot sidegrade.

[jovial juniper]

It's glass cannon/ranged/even more mobile zealot

[plucky flax]

#freeclad

[zealous wing]

havent even seen clad ingame since the ban so i think he's done with DT

everytime i see a character named "woman" i think of him 😔

[jovial juniper]

Recently found a picture where it looks like I'm going to shoot Jane-Law

[zealous wing]

yall

stim supply might actually be really good

[jovial juniper]

It's the hookah

Of course it's good

[zealous wing]

it works on normal stims, and if i do the breathe and go one, everyone can get CDR, combat stim, etc

[jovial juniper]

says the non-smoker

[zealous wing]

for 15s

[jovial juniper]

Med stim is single use only

So keep that in mind

You won't go healing until 100%

[zealous wing]

perhaps yeah, but still, combat stim in a hot area or monster, drop it, then it also explodes :p

ill have to see how practical it is (with a proper team, mind you, pubs are highly unreliable test subjects)

needlepistol is also a nice anti-crusher im finding

and who needs desperado for immunity when i can slap this on it

[tulip kettle]

[zealous wing]

gotta climb the rest of the way from 22 to 30 but im actually having more fun now that i can try these weapons fully

hi dom

only thing i need to also consider is, if i go basic stim (15s cooldown), how effective the landmine system would be

vs normal stims

ITS FUCKING VICIOUS

if i can drop it in a gunner blob, they're all dead

horde trim also guarenteed then, very nice

armoured ragers left with scraps of hp, dregs killed

idk, people were saying its not usable, but seems very useful to me.... we'll find out in a live game i suppose

might even give openings for res

[royal totem]

Its pretty good. Some people just cant recognize

[quartz barn]

Average pub moment

[summer prairie]

Look at that Toxin damage

[royal totem]

damn

what damage was this btw?

any chance i can see your build?

[summer prairie]

that wasn't me

[royal totem]

oh

well damn 😮

[wraith sphinx]

is that with or without the long lasting talent?

or does that talent not affect the stimm crate

[fresh panther]

Scoreboard fixed or did you temp patch it?

[sturdy reef]

Whats the wildfire bug?

[summer prairie]

There's a fix for the crashes but this is my own

you can find links here

[restive roost]

Siblings, what's the rotations for Blaze Force GS MK VI?

[tulip kettle]

chain heavies for elites

L1 - L2 - cancel loop for hordes

cancel with swapping or tapping block

[restive roost]

Wait, that simple?

Thank you

[weary crane]

Psykers don't play wildfire in havoc

It's crashes servers

[ripe obsidian]

I am lazy and just spam lights

[ripe obsidian]

We're too powerful

[ripe obsidian]

Is that just grenades or?

I don't know all the ways Scum can apply toxin

[deft stump]

Bonesaw, needler, rng melee crits with talent, any blitz with talent, funni exploding stimm supply subnode.

[ripe obsidian]

Does Scum have a way to regen blitz?

[deft stump]

20 melee kills for blinder.

The other two, no.

Is why I meme with blinder. Still "inf" 'nades to save us in mortis.

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha. Karien! Bestow upon me a toxin build. Please.

[deft stump]

Heal and void shields.

I'm not lvl 30 to play with that yet.

[ripe obsidian]

:(

:::(((

[deft stump]

My pubs are hell if I can't clutch, and I was half asleep to try playing a paper class.

[placid peak]

Is Penetration of the soul any good with the blaze force greatsword?

[royal totem]

ugh this is such a grind

[deft stump]

The penances?

[royal totem]

leveling

[ripe obsidian]

No

PotS is bad with almost every psyker build

[placid peak]

sounds good though, i want the build to focus alot on juicing the special attack of the sword. I would imagine 20% rending makes quite a difference?

[deft stump]

Ah. I hate it. There was a guy in gameplay who mocked me when I said I know ppl who wanna skip to 30.

[tulip kettle]

i have had no problems with crashing with wildfire

except, demonhosts

but any DoT will crash with them i think?

[royal totem]

what? lol

[deft stump]

Even in normal?

[deft stump]

Yeah, look around my morning yesterday.

[tulip kettle]

in my experience yes

but i oly saw it twice so far

crashed all 4 players out of game when DH aggroed

[deft stump]

I saw only 1 psyker when I played. It was in mortis.

We didn't get DH, lul.

[ripe obsidian]

Makes a minor difference. Maximum of... 12ish% more damage to Flak enemies and 28.5% more damage to Carapace. But you'd have a hell of a time pathing to PotS without giving up way better things.

[deft stump]

I needler'd every boss to death.

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/622281b0c035959d2a1e3e9108712515672d26f9/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/force_swords_2h/settings_templates/force_sword_2h_damage_profile_templates.lua#L816

This should be the ADMs for the fgs special

[ripe obsidian]

Did you kill them?

[deft stump]

Read down from this message.

@royal totem

[ripe obsidian]

Don't stare at me. I know what you're capable of

You can do things that make a man wish for death

[deft stump]

Wot.

[stark haven]

Can someone explain me the greatsword special attack. There two meters that fill up when I kill stuff. In order to unleash that filled energy, do I first need to do the special move that adds some peril?

[ripe obsidian]

Playing innocent, I see.

[deft stump]

You kill stuff to get charge power, special uses it to do more damage and increase the size.

[deft stump]

Wot?

[ripe obsidian]

You can't fool me

I'm wise to your games

[royal totem]

not a link so i can't reach it

but i will say, a lot of the DT community is kinda toxic imo

[ripe obsidian]

It's because of the chem toxin

[deft stump]

Just click on the grey part below.

[royal totem]

even before it iit was toxic

[deft stump]

I'll @ you on it then delete the @ in like 5 mins.

[royal totem]

i saw it

god that was uhhh

that guy is either in denial

or ummm

or a "i suffered so everybody should have to suffer" kinda person

[deft stump]

Yeah... like, I won't complain about a 2x xp thing or so.

But really, there are ppl who rather just skip to 30.

And I still say, game is fun 30+, but before, is a slog.

[royal totem]

i for one would like to skip to 30

the thing is like imo a lot of gameplay pre-20ish is just irrelevant to 20+ gameplay for one cuz talents can change how a class feels and plays

[deft stump]

Thus, Me stating pre-30 feels more like an unfun slog and some ppl will wanna skip to 30 is normal

Also, why is it easier to unlock auric than damnation?

[ripe obsidian]

Pre-30 sucks for everyone. Slightly less for people new to the game

But you can't really play the game until 30

[wraith sphinx]

eh

hive scum for me was surprisingly fun from 1 to 30, just all the way

arbites was pretty consistent throughout too, tho the starter nuncio aquila is boring

[deft stump]

I feel like a budget BtL or budget Casti would be better.

[wraith sphinx]

definitely

[ripe obsidian]

I would much prefer being able to experiment with builds fully for that time rather than spending X many hours working toward freedom

[wraith sphinx]

I ended up using exclusively btl because it was the least boring ult

[ripe obsidian]

BtL is also arguably the best ult

Shortest cooldown, most impact

[acoustic jacinth]

instant burst of damage which is very easy to upkeep

btl's great

[ripe obsidian]

Nuncio is great, but the AoE isn't big enough and the cooldown is too long

[acoustic jacinth]

if only you could guide the nuncio around

[ripe obsidian]

Way too easy to get like no use out of it

[wraith sphinx]

I really didn't mind this for scum. Literally the first scum mission I played, half of my qp team kept dying (also scum)

[acoustic jacinth]

I CALL THE LEX HERE! nuncio whirring sounds

[wraith sphinx]

I immediately recognized that this class would be very different to play

[acoustic jacinth]

this would be peak

[tulip kettle]

@summer prairie can you let me know what you did to make scoreboard functional?

[deft stump]

I'm sure this is why stimm supply ended with a subnode that shortens it but lets it linger.

[deft stump]

Everyone dies because paper.

[ripe obsidian]

@tulip kettle

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, that would make it a lot more usable

Currently Nuncio is like, "Well, I put it down then my team immediately moved 50m away. Try again in 60 seconds"

[deft stump]

I mean, 1 sec cd between moves, but you can relocate the nuncio when out by using the ult button would be nice.

[tulip kettle]

thanks

[zealous wing]

heh, impact

[acoustic jacinth]

Why, i would also like it to play caramelldansen whilst on the move

[deft stump]

Nyancat.

[acoustic jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/nyan-cat-rainbow-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5716621

the memories

why did we ever leave this

[deft stump]

Dunno.

[acoustic jacinth]

what a horrible progression

[royal totem]

less idiots in damnation than heresy

[zealous wing]

truly the dark timeline

[acoustic jacinth]

literally

who put me in a 40k book

[deft stump]

We are in the worst timeline after all.

[atomic flicker]

if im using the jeficus guide in gameslantern for inferno psyker using the staff for main damage, am i actively losing dps by not going for uncanny strike?

or is it just like sienna flamestorm wth famished flames where you only really use melee if you need to protect yourself?

[acoustic jacinth]

well uh

it builds character?

👍

[deft stump]

The isn't just blep ded.

[zealous wing]

this is why uncanny on a force weapon. i need not say more

[tulip kettle]

you lose huge amounts of damage without uncanny, yea. see clip hex posted

[atomic flicker]

i guess the question was more of, should I actively go near enemies just to boost my dps or just stay safe and use it when the opportunity rises

[zealous wing]

fun fact this technique also works on hivescum toxin if you have a melee with a damage boost to a specific armour type

[tulip kettle]

uncanny is taking those soulblaze ticks from like, 30-50 damage per tick to over 600

[zealous wing]

both, i suppose. it works fine if you also push attack some trash nearby if theres fire on the armour further away

[tulip kettle]

well, you need to get within 9m of an enemy and push attack it to get your uncanny stacks up to burn armour

[deft stump]

There's a reason my gun is flak+unyielding.

[tulip kettle]

against trash just dont worry about uncanny and burn em

[zealous wing]

specifically only on bosses and armour

and on bosses thats a huge gamble

[royal totem]

oh god. "it builds character" is one of the worst phrases ever

[deft stump]

Cara+unyielding will be funni as well.

[atomic flicker]

is it actually 9 meters or does that mean something else

cause irl 9 meters is LONG

is it the same length eyeball wise in game?

[deft stump]

Problem, knoife and shivs range is dog.

[marble crater]

Hearing the phrase "it builds character", builds character

[zealous wing]

needlepistol, and shivs.

[ripe obsidian]

Uncanny Strike allows Inferno/Soulblaze to damage Carapace.

[tulip kettle]

yes 9m in game

[deft stump]

Oh, I know. I run close to that.

[marble crater]

No, you need to walk 9m away from your monitor and do it

[ripe obsidian]

Don't put yourself in weird situations to force Uncanny. If your team is clearing Crushers, just keep burninating. But if you're in a position where Crushers are threatening you, uncanny is your savior.

[deft stump]

I even made a knoife just in case. Shivs seem to not have extra crit%.

[atomic flicker]

im still confused

push attack reaches 9 meters?

[tulip kettle]

yes

[deft stump]

Or threatening the group in a really bad way, I guess.

[acoustic jacinth]

I am joking here of course, but it also depends on the context. I believe it's good to forcibly put yourself through some challenges in life to learn to naturally endure them, because most things do end up being just one big painful test of willpower. Even if you don't, unless you have some good circumstances life will likely beat you to it anyways. Though my perspective may be distorted to some because of where i live (dante's inferno)

[brazen merlin]

Which Blaze Force Sword mark is best?

[tulip kettle]

it staggers enemies and gives you an uncanny stack, from up to 9 in game metres away

[ripe obsidian]

Who cares about the group? >:(

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos defensively, Obscurus offensively

[tulip kettle]

depends on use case, but generally deimos

[deft stump]

I don't think some ppl like soloing.

[atomic flicker]

that's 29 feet

[marble crater]

Push attack not the push
The push attack is the thing that happens when you block and hold attack

[deft stump]

I don't.

[royal totem]

it's true. but "it builds character" is normally used in the context of "i suffered so you should have to suffer also"

[tulip kettle]

my guy what do you want me to say

look at the clip

you see me push attacking them from far away and they get staggered and i get uncanny stack

[brazen merlin]

What's the difference? IDK what the symbols mean.

[ripe obsidian]

The meat shields must die sometimes. My Beloved declares it so.

[marble crater]

Maybe confusing push attack with push, because force sword push attack is also a push

[acoustic jacinth]

eh, misrepresentation, don't listen to whoever this fella is

[ripe obsidian]

When you pick a mark for the Force Sword, you can pick Illisi, Deimos, or Obscurus.

[tulip kettle]

they have different attacks but ultimately ignore the symbols

they dont mean much

just try em all out

[ripe obsidian]

Illisi is superseded by the Force Greatsword. Deimos has better tools for playing defensively and surviving. Obscurus has better time to kill on basically every enemy, but it's riskier to use

[acoustic jacinth]

deimos you go spear fishing

[deft stump]

Also more annoying imo. The quick l1 is now l3.

[acoustic jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/le-fishe-au-chocolat-chocolate-gif-25868863

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos is for push attacks and L1+H2 comboing

Pokepokepoke

[deft stump]

Pretty sure that's spearfishing.

You thrust a spear into water to stab fish.

[acoustic jacinth]

you sir

are a fish.

https://tenor.com/view/enbabyfazball-fish-thirsty-gif-12496812153427391344

[ripe obsidian]

I know

I was agreeing

[acoustic jacinth]

stop fishing around

[ripe obsidian]

No. >:(

[summer prairie]

Chem grenades very balanced, more total damage on this map than purg shriek

[tulip kettle]

that boss damage is crazy

[summer prairie]

yes I imagine if I look at powerdi, a lot of that is boss

[deft stump]

Even just needler is hilarious.

'Bleeding' out a BoN was never this fast.

[ripe obsidian]

They tick every 0.35 seconds and take 2.6 seconds to fall off, or something like that

[deft stump]

They are nice because no accuracy needed.

[limpid lily]

so uh

[deft stump]

Just hit the target SOMEWHERE.

[limpid lily]

psyker soulblaze spread on kill crashing havocs?

[deft stump]

Soulblaze+DH, rip.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[limpid lily]

fuck

I lost a rank cuz of that

[summer prairie]

only wildfire

[royal totem]

Malice is so wild.

[ripe obsidian]

We have grown too powerful

Not even the game servers can contain us

[royal totem]

you see people using power sword without ever activating it

[deft stump]

Is malice. Heresy is bad as well.

[royal totem]

and it's crazy cuz like i'm sure they just read somewhere power sword really good without any comprehension

[livid basalt]

Why did they reset the Fkn Skill tree

[royal totem]

also, anybody want to help me level my hive scum?

[deft stump]

To be fair, you can get away with it in malice on poxxers.

[deft stump]

UI changes codewise.

[livid basalt]

what other classes did this happen to

[royal totem]

UH HUH. tell this vet who was wet noodling and i don't think he threw a single grenade either

[deft stump]

You can now freely swap skills.

[livid basalt]

I have to rebuild 7 Builds Brah

[deft stump]

ALL.

[livid basalt]

😿

[deft stump]

So all 5 classes, if you got Arby.

[ripe obsidian]

Power sword unactivated feels awful

[royal totem]

i'm aware

[livid basalt]

finished hive scum lvl 30 like yeah i can get on the next NOW I GOTTA RE DO IT ORIJHFUFHb

[ripe obsidian]

Look at the pinned build guide. Bask in my builds.

Bask in them.

[deft stump]

Not using 'nade da kark.

[royal totem]

nobody wants to help me level?

damn

[strong gulch]

Not just havocs.

RIP tho

[royal totem]

THROWING KARK 😏

[strong gulch]

scum?

[deft stump]

I just ran damns till I couldn't play straight anymore.

[royal totem]

yeah 🙁

[jovial juniper]

At work bruv

[royal totem]

idk. people keep making me lose

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/csgo-knife-tricks-sausage-flip-hotdog-flip-gif-25236336

[deft stump]

That's heresy.

[royal totem]

granted i'm not all that great especially with a 230 wep but yeah

[deft stump]

The extra hp doesn't help my sanity.

[royal totem]

bold of you to assume i had any to start

[strong gulch]

We can chain die together. I need a moment tho. I don't feel great.

[deft stump]

Cos I'm expected to clutch or lose.

[royal totem]

oof. go rest

[strong gulch]

No. I just got up.

This is what happens when I get up.

[royal totem]

ah

i can kinda relate

some days i wake up and ask myself why am i even getting up? is it even worth it?

[deft stump]

You feel ded, I know. Depression kicks in as well. Wish I never woke up way.

[strong gulch]

@royal totem I got like 6 minutes left on a video.

Hopefully I'll be more adjusted by then.

[tulip kettle]

you are welcome to join me and hex

but playing eu

[marble crater]

You might get covid though, so watch out

[lament cipher]

Hi! I have a question about the Penance Warp Battery. If I max out the charges to 10, will I have to hold exactly 10, or does holding more than 4 count as well?

[marble crater]

It would be 6, not 10 and you need to hold whatever your max is

So doing it with 4 is better

[strong gulch]

@royal totem loading now

[lament cipher]

Oh, damn, maybe some advices how to do it?

[tulip kettle]

simply dont press your ability

[mighty cipher]

Technically you get more buffs with 6. It just takes longer to get back if you REALLY fuck it up.

[tulip kettle]

run inferno with in fire reborn modifier

you will hit 6 stacks then keep it relatively easy

[marble crater]

Play the highest difficulty you can, with shock troop modifier, don't use your ability, play with people who are good enough to not die, but not good enough to snipe all elites and specials

That's how I got mine, in the olden days

[lament cipher]

Ok haha, well, I think I will try find some team later, thanks!

[royal totem]

you guys look busy. its k i'll just continue suffering by myself

[tulip kettle]

we arent busy we are waiting for you

[strong gulch]

we are literally waiting for u

[royal totem]

need to reload game. it was buggy ._.

[tulip kettle]

np

[strong gulch]

we would have started otherwise

[royal totem]

i'm not sure i like this saw though

[fierce crest]

you can deselect major nodes without removing everything below them

[ripe obsidian]

I am at work

@summer prairie dost thou happen to have a chem tox build? Or is that someone else's creation?

[summer prairie]

I don't know what he was running, besides, I think, shivs+needler+chems

powerdi crashes if I try to look at scum talents

we went basically from 30 to 40 without purg/trauma/bubble and scum in the party most of the time

[ripe obsidian]

The speedrun

It also helps that the current rotation is quite easy compared with the last few

My team last night went...34 to 39? with only one loss. Which was my fault, because I screwed up my build.

No scum. Vet, psyker, book zealot, and me on doggo arby

[ripe obsidian]

In your opinion, do you feel Scum fills a similar role to purg/trauma? Or closer to Zealot? Or is the current rotation just easy enough that people who have fought through rot + stims are coasting?

[summer prairie]

Definitely not similar to purg/trauma, since they run around more like a knife zealot. They just have purg grenades for melting some stuff

[ripe obsidian]

But with no grenade regen, so slightly limited

Also, if you have time, could you teach me to decompile the code so I can poke through it without needing to rely on Aussiemon's github?

[summer prairie]

PMed

[astral finch]

I feel like my melee psyker is just so weak, I swear

[prime elk]

Psykers the strongest class in the game rn

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[astral finch]

I know, its likely a skill issue, but idk, I just changed a bunch of stuff now I feel like Im back to squishy glass cannon without the glass cannon part.

[ripe obsidian]

What is your build?

[prime elk]

There’s builds in the pins too

[ripe obsidian]

I have a ton of melee Psyker builds in the--yeah, what Sirosky said

[fierce crest]

[astral finch]

I was looking at the build bonanza yesterday, decided to rework what I have, gimme a sec to get the build made then I'll pop the link

[marble crater]

Was that before or after they reset everything, maybe you have been playing without a talent tree

[royal totem]

@zealous wing need to go eat lunch

[astral finch]

Not that, I remade it after the patch reset everything

[ripe obsidian]

I hope it has helped you

[astral finch]

Gameslaturn is being weird

[astral finch]

Alittle, alot of acronyms that are a bit jarring at first glance, but full of good info