They didn't.
Likely haven't even logged in during the past 48 hours to see that havoc is down.
#psyker-class
nocturne wasp
royal totem
havoc things
daring comet
Psyker feels the most rewarding to me
dull scroll
It is the class of the Emperor ๐
mossy hazel
It didnโt at first, but once I picked up Assail it really clicked.
daring comet
first 20 levels i felt like I had glass bones
mossy hazel
Do I just move on to quick play and random missions now?
royal totem
Yes
mossy hazel
Nice.
fast summit
definitely feeling Psyker come together. just hit level 20
plucky flax
Are we ready to do hardcore drugs today?
weary idol
I NEED it
potent echo
Many drugs or potent drugs 
quaint lark
https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-105861295107727028...
Why is a Skyrim dude here lol, ik people hate Xenos, but can Werewolves be ok? Please?
Lol
potent echo
Is this zealot chat
crystal aspen
Is this zealot chat
Yes
quaint lark
Is this zealot chat
Yes
Only theres more hate toward certain things and its a lil less random
summer prairie
daring comet
-> Log In
-> Select Psyker
-> Get most damage
-> Also get most deaths
glad bolt
hey so this is a typo right? it's 5% per stack?
cosmic sigil
yes
it goes to 20%
you can check kuli's guide on steam to know what the blessings actually do
quartz barn
Not again...
compact cargo
So it begins
quartz barn
Time to do am new mission where all 4 have no talents
Wait but i optimized my arbi loadout like 3 days ago fml
summer prairie
Weird terminology here
KF now procs at any peril
The patch has so many code formatting changes that it's very difficult to find any undocumented changes
lament sandal
@summer prairie Was there an announcement for today's patch notes?
I probably missed it
summer prairie
lament sandal
Thank you
plucky flax
Time to not play for a week to wait for mods update
quartz barn
Ye this was kinda ironic with the needle gun preview
Wouldve been so much better to see a pogryn get melted with the health bar value
summer prairie
the new mission works with the solo mod already
Ok I lied, I can load in but there are like invisible walls
radiant frigate
ayo? the self-sustaining energy shield is upon us?
summer prairie
well it barely helps
summer prairie
I'm not sure what was wrong previously, maybe some peril or damage resistance calculation, but it still generates a lot
radiant frigate
I'm guessing it comes in last in the DR calculation and then generates peril based on that
rather than going first
zealous wing
makes sense to me
radiant frigate
should still be plenty good i fink
just makes it so you don't quite get as much in combination with other stuff
but still assuming quietude and warp ghost and a theoretical 100 damage bonk
75 damage goes through
25% peril gained
12.5% max toughness restored
assuming 200 toughness we just turned 100 damage into 50
also probably pretty gas immune
summer prairie
gas generates like 1 toughness, doesn't help
radiant frigate
radiant frigate
time to redo all your builds!!
zealous wing
im gonna have a fucking aneurysm
quartz barn
Looks like the mods still work tho?
zealous wing
except numericUI, at least from the short list i use
quartz barn
Just put all your builds on gameslantern or something
zealous wing
too late now
and besides, if the tree ever changes again those builds would go byebye anyway
summer prairie
slightly easier to make builds now due to the ability to deselect blitz/ability/aura, though you could already do that with the mod
zealous wing
so excited to do this on 6 characters
i have absolutely NO fucking documentation of my arby, zealot, ogryn, vet builds
why the FUCK did they need to hit the rest button on us
the tree DIDNT CHANGE
NONE of the trees changed
summer prairie
I think it's due to the deselect change
last ibex
Looks like the mods still work tho?
game crashes on launch due to mod framework
zealous wing
grab the hotfix
summer prairie
there's an early hotfix for the loader/dmf on the mod discord
keen pelican
NONE of the trees changed
no stat changes on any of the trees?
zealous wing
zealous wing
no stat changes on any of the trees?
stat changes dont affect placement
keen pelican
stat changes dont affect placement
Ty!
zealous wing
so at least six's guide is still accurate
keen pelican
I haven't played in a few months so coming back to this update should be fun
dull scroll
ashen edge
Rotten armor affected melee now. I think this modifier also decreased the spawn cost for carapace enemy too right?
summer prairie
no, it technically increases it but since it also spawns them during trickle hordes, you still get way more
or well they increased crusher spawn cost in general
zealous wing
3hrs
summer prairie
I think it's 4
zealous wing
zealous wing
i guess we'll find out at 3pm
wind spruce
but still assuming quietude and warp ghost and a theoretical 100 damage bonk
75 ...
are you counting the toughness from quelling the peril you generate?
acoustic jacinth
They stick out so bad ๐
zealous wing
HAHAHA
zealous wing
lmao
wind spruce
"Added functionality to allow the deselection of Blitz, Auras, and Abilities within the Talent Trees, even if nodes below were selected. Leaving the Talent Tree menu in an invalid state will reset the Tree to the layout it had when originally entered."
Nice
zealous wing
i want to play the game, not remake trees
why didnt i wake up later
at least at lvl1 is not as annoying as remaking a couple dozen builds
zealous wing
honestly i only got like, 5 hours of sleep, i SHOULD have woken up later, and by the point i am now, it'd be release time
acoustic jacinth
Rip
zealous wing
or at least, close to it if its 4pm not 3pm
grumble grumble whine bitch moan i know 
just mad at the tree reset and already woke up in a bad way
summer prairie
We'll see if this works once I can test it
dull scroll
Based
acoustic jacinth
***grumble grumble whine bitch moan*** i know <:Sigh:1211108468866420756> just m...
My beloved says it'll get better
Or maybe
It won't
storm temple
We'll see if this works once I can test it
wow, scoreboard mod already has that built in?
summer prairie
No, I added it to mine
quartz barn
Hackerman
zealous wing
ive got my shroudfield done, i think now, and thusly my chorus as well (same build as SF but with thammer and obiously book and a couple different talents), so now maybe i can just play for a bit then go fix psykermain2's builds
oh thats cool
shows walls vs dome i suppose
aaaand i crashed
fuck it modless
literally cannot be assed to try fixing shit more
plucky flax
Ping me with a finished updated scoreboard so I can find it easier.
zealous wing
fuckin.... guarenteed weaponswap fucked me over so many times not being there
digital flame
New psyker build, take notes
dull scroll
summer prairie
This is pretty good too
zealous wing
KF on assail would be dope
summer prairie
the patch notes claim it will reset the talent tree menu if you leave it in an invalid state, but doesn't seem to happen here
but I still have BB with this build
now the build is stuck with BB
I see, it stops saving your build if it's invalid but it still shows the invalid layout
zealous wing
yuppers
zealous wing
ive learned my lesson. ALWAYS document ALL builds before ANY major update or if you have a tree you really like
wind spruce
ive learned my lesson. ALWAYS document ALL builds before ANY major update or if ...
I swear I remember you saying something similar last time they were reset haha
jovial fog
zealous wing
i was glad i DID document mine but we also knew they would be reset
wind spruce
i was glad i DID document mine but we also knew they would be reset
One tricking psyker makes remembering my builds a lot easier
Scum will be my third 30
You've had like 4 times that many psykers right 
weary crane
dull scroll
The stimpoclyse have ended ๐
quartz barn
This is pretty good too
Put this on gameslantern and watch the average heresy player lose their mind
quartz barn
"Just run flame scrier with bouncing assail"
zealous wing
You've had like 4 times that many psykers right <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163...
ive made 12 psykers total, but only have 2 permanent ones
ionic spade
Did they wipe the talent builds? I just logged in and all my builds were cleaned
zealous wing
๐
spice oar
Did they wipe the talent builds? I just logged in and all my builds were cleaned
Killing myself immediately
Brian burst self-cast
wraith sphinx
I thought the peril on dsword parry was a bug
Oh well never dswording on psyker again
spice oar
Nah itโs a unique feature
spice oar
Oh well never dswording on psyker again
Why? Itโs better than the regular parry
wraith sphinx
Not worth, I'm almost always riding at max peril anyways
spice oar
Sounds like a skill issue
wraith sphinx
Yeah take a hike buddy
Not gonna switch off of melee to reduce my warp rider damage boost just so I can occasionally parry with the diddypick
acoustic jacinth
Not gonna switch off of melee to reduce my warp rider damage boost just so I can...
It's official. Edging peril is now a skill issue
What do you all know about competitive edging, anyhow
spiral storm
People use the parry?
I just spam lmb and kite nonstop
then again I barely use the DS anymore
I prefer obscurus force
jovial juniper
What do you all know about competitive edging, anyhow
When I'm on an edging competition and my opponent is a psyker player
acoustic jacinth
When I'm on an edging competition and my opponent is a psyker player
dull scroll
No edging like a psyker edging ๐
spiral storm
wiped again?
jovial juniper
(it's because now you don't have to unselect a shit ton of things to change a single talent)
spiral storm
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
ionic spade
Love of the game
Thank you fatshark! I love the slop update!
Can't wait for the new mission man
jovial juniper
Everything I don't like is slop looking ahh beat
ionic spade
No skitarii? SLOP SLOP SLOP
What do you mean we get new content?
I don't care who fatshark sends, if there's no skitarii then it's SLOP SLOP SLOP SLOP
spiral storm
New weapons that aren't hyper meta? Slop
New weapons that are hyper meta? Slop
Only 1 new map? Slop
Not sisters/skitarii/ogryn psyker/krieger as its own class/death cult assassin/assassinorum assassin? Slop
ionic spade
It's truly a slop update because there's no new psyker staffs
spiral storm
Okay yeah I can agree with that one
zealous wing
they do a lil trolling
spiral storm
for the love of god please give us a new staff
spiral storm
I will literally take the shitty fireball staff
jovial juniper
Speaking of weapons
They didn't really do shit to them this update
ionic spade
Like shooting a bunch of tiny needles
dull scroll
spiral storm
I don't mind the lack of changes to weapons. Nothing is too too insanely OP like with old DS meta
er... well
ionic spade
they do a lil trolling
spiral storm
except ogryn-heimer, purge staff, helbore
unless i'm tweaking and those actually got changed
summer prairie
Looks like no Rotten or Healing in havoc rotation
dull scroll
it's over
zealous wing
Looks like no Rotten or Healing in havoc rotation
the said specifically they werent changing modifiers 
oh cruel they dropped me at 20
spiral storm
I've probaly been dropped to like 8 at this point
zealous wing
@summer prairie did they drop you at 30 like usual?
summer prairie
yes
zealous wing
thats good at least
zinc phoenix
oh cruel they dropped me at 20
I usually get zeroed ๐
zealous wing
jovial juniper
I don't mind the lack of changes to weapons. Nothing is too too insanely OP like...
dull scroll
I don't mind the lack of changes to weapons. Nothing is too too insanely OP like...
He doesn't know ๐
zealous wing
he has no idea
wraith sphinx
Escort the GREAT RAXIMILIAN DRAGOR to victory
zealous wing
he has no idea anything is brokenly overpowered
spiral storm
except ogryn-heimer, purge staff, helbore
what else is OP that I missed?
does zealot have anything cool?
cedar drum
Are the psyker daggers really viable?
zealous wing
im thinking about havoc
spiral storm
I mean in general
everything is viable period
not everything scales into like havoc 30+
zealous wing
true, auric and below anything works
spiral storm
poor revolver
zealous wing
havoc 20s are still heresy/damnation
late yew
WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO IMPLEMENT IT
spiral storm
it's nice that it's there but also I would have prefered they never made that change if it meant resetting all the skilltrees again
zealous wing
WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO IMPLEMENT IT
enjoy the tree fixing btw, everythings reset again
jovial juniper
does zealot have anything cool?
Shroudfield
jovial juniper
A high tier Shroudfield player is genuinely one of the coolest things in the game
Too bad we don't have much of those high tiers shroud player
Speedrunners ew
Hammerfolk eh alright
zinc phoenix
Most of the time the shroud field nerds just drag out a lost game
summer prairie
I think rituals are crashing the base game
zinc phoenix
But yeah occasionally you get some giga gamer who can solo the whole mission in stealth
zinc phoenix
Stealth vets are more annoying tho by like x10
Because usually itโs some dweeb who sucks at melee and is trying to avoid it by being sneaky
zealous wing
Most of the time the shroud field nerds just drag out a lost game
best i can do is maybe get lucky with position and timings and save a single h40 with SF, rushing to res at the perfect timing in HL 70 04, i doubt id be able to do it again lmao
pure luck there
zinc phoenix
So they stealth for 5m and dump aggro, then the monsters remember where they are and they go down
Beyond tedious
summer prairie
Anyone got a non-rituals h30 and wants to try if it crashes?
zinc phoenix
The good ones who do all the objectives in stealth and solve annoying problems are rare but handy
Hab dreyko with stealth vet is like 100x easier
zealous wing
i fucking bet holy shit
i dont think i've ever gotten a stealth vet on that map at all
zinc phoenix
I did it when I was grinding stealth vet penances and it was just so easy b/c you can do the whole thing sneaky style ๐
summer prairie
blight+pox gas sure is fun
zealous wing
apparently the "no new modifiers" this season meant "old shit mostly gone"
jovial juniper
zealous wing
rituals is back too
wraith sphinx
A high tier Shroudfield player is genuinely one of the coolest things in the gam...
Last time I played shroud zet was half a year ago and it was tiresome to constantly line up backstabs back then
jovial juniper
rituals is back too
This one is bearable (when it doesn't bug)
summer prairie
but rituals is crashing the game
jovial juniper
(when it doesn't bug)
summer prairie
it's not in rotation
loud girder
havoc is back on the menu then
deft stump
Out of curiousity, does anyone even have the Aqulia welcome offer?
lone ravine
not that I could see
deft stump
I'm wondering if it's only for NEW players or people who never bought a pack before.
Or just not released.
zealous wing
people suspect it drops when the class does, as the new cosmetics for other classes arent out yet either
deft stump
I deleted a bunch of builds and compressed everything else anyway. A mess cos of memory issues. Thanks FS.
deft stump
people suspect it drops when the class does, as the new cosmetics for other clas...
Ah.
zealous wing
we'll find out in 40 minutes or so
deft stump
Was mostly curious about the price.
zealous wing
it does say heavily discounted so me too
deft stump
If it's like $5 for a set... I can pick it up.
long wharf
let's be honest, it could be a discount of $1 and we'd all still get it
deft stump
if builds got reset
You mean, I deleted so many...
I'm at 3 builds for every class.
Well, 4 on Vet.
summer prairie
it might be DHs that are crashing it more generally...
deft stump
it might be DHs that are crashing it more generally...
Does this means normal DH are risky as well?
And yeah, new skill UI is the classic, left to add, right to remove. They added no onscreen instructions for it. I don't even know how it works on controller, lul.
summer prairie
we just crashed with the same message when there was a DH around, can't replicate it in the psykhanium
deft stump
we just crashed with the same message when there was a DH around, can't replicat...
Just normal runs?
As in, auric or mortis?
patent mango
PSYKER IS REAL
jovial juniper
You don't have Scriers
You see
The modifiers require you to activate Scriers first
You don't have Scriers
jovial juniper
Ok then
Carry on
patent mango
im having too much fun with this its peak
zealous wing
Does this means normal DH are risky as well?
played a game with a DH spawn, and they woke her to stage 1 (not yet aggro), no crash happened
also whats so goofy about the tree thing
patent mango
deft stump
played a game with a DH spawn, and they woke her to stage 1 (not yet aggro), no ...
Ah. was wondering if it's just rituals or DH borko. Lights out will be an easy way to test tbh.
zealous wing
do you get the "extra points" or does it just look dumb xD
patent mango
you can get a few extra points yes
zealous wing
LMFAO
summer prairie
your actual build isn't what it shows when you do that
patent mango
mayb
summer prairie
it doesn't save your changes until you make the build valid, it only looks like it does
like your blitz doesn't change
mighty cipher
it doesn't save your changes until you make the build valid, it only looks like ...
As if that isn't explicitly stated in the patch notes. I swear people don't read
patent mango
ohhh
summer prairie
they claim it resets your build if it's not valid
it doesn't do that for me
at least in psykhanium
patent mango
yeah i sure didnt read that im just making goofy stuff
zealous wing
heres the real question
whats it look like in inspect
warudo whats your FS code lemme look
mighty cipher
Like the one guy complaining about Rotten Armor scaling getting changed and that somehow making it worse.
zealous wing
patent mango
thats old
patent mango
check now
weary idol
it doesn't save your changes until you make the build valid, it only looks like ...
oh well that sucks I would have easily saved myself a skill poin by skipping blitz on psyker entirely
patent mango
mayb if i leave psykhanium
zealous wing
same
patent mango
hmmm
zealous wing
i like this tho, its passing time faster than speedrunning heresys waiting for DLC drop
patent mango
this is subway surfers for darktide players
zealous wing
fr
xD
"look at what fatshark fucking broke"
oh sick i just noticed someone on my friend list has a build very similar to what my arby build was
im gonna snag that for emergency arby fill
now i just need to put something in vet and ogryn at some point
summer prairie
I think it might be wildfire crashing the game when interacting with daemonhosts
zealous wing
any or specifically hexbounds?
patent mango
i'd test taht but mods broke
zealous wing
i think solo play is still broken
summer prairie
I couldn't make it crash in the psykhanium, might be a server only crash
patent mango
i c
zealous wing
i do have a ritual havoc, 20
we could just pop in duo and see if it crashes us somehow
quartz barn
i like this tho, its passing time faster than speedrunning heresys waiting for D...
Just go play stimulation clicker on neal.fun
zealous wing
then we can just bail, i dont mind taking a loss
zealous wing
imma toggle dt mods and see if it all explodes
numeric UI will cause issues
quartz barn
Gotta update dmf
ocean bear
What curios would you guys recommend for psyker to maximize survivabilty, I feel like i'm going down way too much
quiet inlet
So what do you think of hive scum?
zealous wing
What curios would you guys recommend for psyker to maximize survivabilty, I feel...
generally, 2 toughness 1 hp
ocean bear
okay thanks
quartz barn
Would say 3 wounds but youd technically go down more
zealous wing
(17% is max toughness, 21% hp is max)
zealous wing
Would say 3 wounds but youd technically go down more <:loregryn:1036580674741731...
fuckin troll 
ocean bear
any particular perks you would recommend to take on them?
quartz barn
Had to do it lmao
royal totem
oh sick i just noticed someone on my friend list has a build very similar to wha...
it had better not be me
quartz barn
But nah one of each
ocean bear
Would say 3 wounds but youd technically go down more <:loregryn:1036580674741731...
jokes
quartz barn
Hp, toughness, stam
royal totem
cuz i just filled in things i thought would look good
zealous wing
any particular perks you would recommend to take on them?
mostly preference, +hp +tough always good, gunner resist, sniper resist, ability cooldown, also good
ocean bear
okay cheers
royal totem
whew good thing it's not me
quartz barn
Prio hp, toughness and abil cd
royal totem
77k melk bucks
zealous wing
time to close darktide and get ready to purchase
quartz barn
Could alternate hp and gunner resist
quartz barn
Sniper resist is ok as a ohk failsafe but should be the first to drop once you get good at dodging / movement
ocean bear
I'd say I'm good with every other class, just psyker is giving me a hard time
deft stump
Would say 3 wounds but youd technically go down more <:loregryn:1036580674741731...
+9 stam.
ocean bear
can't even begin to fathom how people are running it in havoc 40
royal totem
i still get hit by snipers ๐
quartz barn
do i get Deluxe or no
Gemini is divided, so only if you want to use the outfit immediately
royal totem
Gemini is divided, so only if you want to use the outfit immediately
no. i don't
royal totem
@deft stump deluxe or no?
quartz barn
+9 stam.
This was advice for newer players, they wouldnt comprehend your legendary h40 solo carry builds
royal totem
yeah Karien just blasts her way through h40 while screaming and carries the whole mission
quartz barn
At 300 ping too
deft stump
This was advice for newer players, they wouldnt comprehend your legendary h40 so...
WDYM? I don't carry. Also, I uhhh, always just played psyker with +9 stam due to laziness.
quartz barn
Always so humble, i kneel
deft stump
<@229302123391614976> deluxe or no?
I would like, but yeah. Unless someone gets it, no real budget. I have like $7 atm.
royal totem
i should add Karien on steam
deft stump
Im -โฌ210.000
What did you even do?
quartz barn
Buy a house 
royal totem
@zealous wing you're the tiebreaker. Deluxe or no
zealous wing
i see a lot of good other cosmetics, so im skipping it for now at least
deft stump
Buy a house <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Oh, that's an investment.
zealous wing
going for commodore instead
royal totem
yeah but should I do it
deft stump
i see a lot of good other cosmetics, so im skipping it for now at least
You like the commodore ganger stuff?
zealous wing
yeah but should I do it
do you like the way it looks?
zealous wing
You like the commodore ganger stuff?
im a very punk loving person so ye
royal totem
the jacket is kinda cool but nothing else
quartz barn
Compare it to the store
pale narwhal
WHERE ARE MY HANDS LOL
quartz barn
If store better, get that instead ig
pale narwhal
I never knew ๐ญ
deft stump
im a very punk loving person so ye
Ah. Is a taste thing. I like the coat on the deluxe.
zealous wing
oh no i like two of the hair styles a lot
royal totem
@deft stump you have DT through steam right?
zealous wing
oh this looks cool in redhead
deft stump
<@229302123391614976> you have DT through steam right?
I just found out someone sent me it on Steam.
quiet inlet
oh this looks cool in redhead
needs beta helm, then perfection
summer prairie
Seems to work but need more levels and there's an ammo related scoreboard crash too
royal totem
it wasn't me so don't worry cuz i don't have you on steam
deft stump
it wasn't me so don't worry cuz i don't have you on steam
I know that.
quartz barn
Why show ammo on scoreboard
summer prairie
I dont know, maybe I'll disable it
quartz barn
Score boosters zzzzzz
deft stump
Why show ammo on scoreboard
To see who greeded ammo tins.
Unless it's literally a 3 staff 1 gun game.
quartz barn
Gun game nuketown 
jovial juniper
oh this looks cool in redhead
royal totem
UselessScum wasn't allowed as a name
in fact it seems anyything with Scum wasn't allowed
zealous wing
k diving in see you later
deft stump
in fact it seems anyything with Scum wasn't allowed
Because of the last 3 letters.
One of these days, goon and henchman will be illegal and you will need henchpeople
pale prairie
Emperors mercy the event has an aquilas reward
deft stump
Emperors mercy the event has an aquilas reward
500 yep.
pale prairie
pale prairie
Because of the last 3 letters.
Of course you already triedโฆ.
deft stump
<@229302123391614976> the discount one
So $10~
I think.
Also, the needler is just both Bistol marks combined but DoT isn't it?
pale prairie
Weird I saw $5 US dollars
deft stump
Of course you already triedโฆ.
Naw. I haven't gotten on. Did a verification after DLC and having supper.
pale prairie
Oh right smart
zealous wing
unless inflation is spiked recently or something
wind wind
Anyone wanna join us in strike team 9. We powerleveling hivescum. We wheel up in 2 min.
zealous wing
here we go
pale prairie
Anyone wanna join us in strike team 9. We powerleveling hivescum. We wheel up in...
Auric mael or go home
pale prairie
<:Pardon:1284350365843849288>
Damn that finesse makes me sad
quartz barn
<:Pardon:1284350365843849288>
80 defence?
deft stump
its about 5 USD if thats what you mean
Naw, currency diff. If it's USD$5, is like $8.50 for me.
royal totem
mm?
zealous wing
game time?
deft stump
The class is $24 on release for me.
zealous wing
lmao
deft stump
So if you need something to gauge prices.
wind wind
Auric mael or go home
We are auric damnation. Join us next match
royal totem
btw did they make weapon mastery cost way more sacrifices?
pale prairie
We are auric damnation. Join us next match
Time zone difference. This is my wage slave time. I wish you all the best though!
zealous wing
btw did they make weapon mastery cost way more sacrifices?
i dont think so, unless they changed that this update
im doing the campaign again because why not
( i can skip it anytime so im not worried if i get bored)
deft stump
( i can skip it anytime so im not worried if i get bored)
Only 50k dockets.
royal totem
sacrificing my greens is giving me no exp basically lol
sacrificed like 50 and only got to wep mastery 6 or 7
zealous wing
are they the same weap type
deft stump
sacrificed like 50 and only got to wep mastery 6 or 7
Weapon power lvl also matters.
Sacrificing 80s is nothing compared to 380.
mighty cipher
<:Pardon:1284350365843849288>
We lost this rolling steel because Arby's went for rez's before finishing the mission and got fucking shot by a sniper
deft stump
We lost this rolling steel because Arby's went for rez's before finishing the mi...
No true grit?
mighty cipher
He was already on his deathbed
deft stump
Oh. Then it was just dumb.
pale prairie
@ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
Hi
Fixed an issue where โKinetic Flayerโ wouldnโt properly activate when at Critical Peril.
I still dislike JaD, but that's a good fix
Sadly, rotten armor also got fixed.
ripe obsidian
Uh.
Fixed an issue where the damage reduction only scaled against ranged damage
Dev note: It was unintentionally only affecting ranged weapons, but the intention is for both ranged & melee weapons to be affected.
Yes, the reduction affecting melee will make it much more enjoyable
...
mighty cipher
What theyโre saying is that melee weapons ALWAYS suffered the full resistance instead of it being reduced as damage was taken.
ripe obsidian
No.
They aren't
It didn't affect melee at all.
The code was just the ranged reduction twice.
pale prairie
I still dislike JaD, but that's a good fix
Just saying the problem wasnโt your skill. It was apparently inconsistent
royal totem
sorry @zealous wing had a quick emergency
ripe obsidian
Just saying the problem wasnโt your skill. It was apparently inconsistent
I am superior to JaD, confirmed.
deft stump
It didn't affect melee at all.
I think they meant that you don't get the 25% more damage on low hp.
They go from bonus DR to negative DR.
ripe obsidian
I think they meant that you don't get the 25% more damage on low hp.
Yes, but that didn't work at all. And the damage reduction was only for ranged. Now it is both ranged and melee.
pale prairie
Wait wait wait all this time JaD wasnโt providing melee damage reduction????
deft stump
Rot.
mighty cipher
What are the breakpoints for the damage scaling? Is it more of a oneshot protection thing or a linear scale?
deft stump
Yes, but that didn't work at all. And the damage reduction was only for ranged. ...
But assuming it works correctly now, should be okay?
ripe obsidian
Should be something like this:
At >=90% hp, unit recieves 75% ranged damage reduction. Between 75% and 90%, the unit recieves 50% ranged DR. Between 50% and 75% the unit recieves 25% ranged DR. Between 0% and 25% the unit recieves 25% extra damage from ranged
But not just ranged
ripe obsidian
But assuming it works correctly now, should be okay?
I mean, you only do bonus damage when it's below 25% HP, which isn't very meaningful.
Many classes/builds would already one-shot a 25% HP crusher without a damage boost
deft stump
I mean, you only do bonus damage when it's below 25% HP, which isn't very meanin...
I thought it was at 50%.
ripe obsidian
I do not believe so
deft stump
Oh well.
summer prairie
ripe obsidian
I feel like this just further reinforces kraks being necessary for that modifier
summer prairie
trauma
jovial juniper
Like that's ever going to happen
deft stump
Like that's ever going to happen
If they ever do, I better see cara nerfs as well.
jovial juniper
FS probably going to up the Adms on the weapons that use uncanny if it ever gets nerfed
So nothing ever changes
ripe obsidian
Carapace is stupid. It's the only armor type that matters at all.
There needs to be some sort of rebalancing so the armor system is meaningful
deft stump
Carapace is stupid. It's the only armor type that matters at all.
Weapon with uncanny or high ADM, usable. Weapon without, trash Z tier.
ripe obsidian
Yes
That is the problem imo
Having to build around a single enemy type
Maybe I am just salty, but I do not find rotten armor fun or interesting. It's just a slog, and this is going to make it worse. Hooray, loads of extra crushers, maulers, and ragers with 150% effective HP against most weapons. What fun.
zealous wing
k im having a slight weird issue with the blinders
its throwing all three in a row from one input
zinc phoenix
im gonna scoooooooom
royal totem
k im having a slight weird issue with the blinders
i'm not having that issue so probably a mod
zinc phoenix
i have decided layla is the correct name for my scoomer
shes got them on their knees she does
zealous wing
im gonna test turning this off
ripe obsidian
And purple got a little nerfed
zealous wing
didnt work
idk what else it would be tho besides guarenteed weapon swap
i dont have anything else at all that'd affect weaponry
ok no it IS GWS
i turned it off and it stops
that... sucks because i need it so it doesnt kill me when i want a weapon out
zealous wing
ill leave it off for now i guess tho since i only need it for psyker and zealot really
yes
very
ripe obsidian
:(
royal totem
i already had to clutch a mission
zealous wing
hive scum clutch lets go
ripe obsidian
Start floating.
wraith sphinx
guys look at me no hands!!!
frigid gale
So all builds on all classes was erased?
ripe obsidian
Yes.
ripe obsidian
Because Fatshark.
mighty cipher
They changed how the tree functions again. Letting you unmark blitzes without having to reset the whole tree. Itโs a nice change but still funky.
wraith sphinx
Im on that kcd2 grind
did you marry hans
wraith sphinx
aww ok I'm sorry mr chaos
but hey look at how incredibly powerful my psyker is
she can hold a sword with no hands
zinc phoenix
did they make weapon mastery even more ass
ive dumepd in like 60 low level green weapons and am at like 7
summer prairie
its slower when you are buying low level items and upgrading them
better to wait until your level is a bit higher
wraith sphinx
I like the new font
zealous wing
lmao
zinc phoenix
I like the new font
Theyโre doing the 80s terminal thing but itโs not quite right
deft stump
I wanted to cheat by maxxing a knoife for my sanity...
summer prairie
I'm level 29
plucky flax
Nice grind
royal totem
......i couldn't find a way to 1-30 in 90 mins ._.
zealous wing
its probably doing the auric twin skip
royal totem
auric twin skip?
summer prairie
yes
zealous wing
twin fight auric, do the bell skip, die
zealous wing
basically, dont bother actually playing and just do the same 3 minutes over and over and over and over
ripe obsidian
Sounds miserable
summer prairie
the alternatives are also bad
zealous wing
it is, and i only did that with someone once and immediately hated it
ripe obsidian
I don't think I am gonna buy Hive Scum
summer prairie
and take 2x longer
zealous wing
i much prefer actually levelling
zealous wing
I don't think I am gonna buy Hive Scum
so far its kinda fun, just gotta calibrate yourself to knowing how squishy you actually are
75 base toughness, 150 base hp
wraith sphinx
I don't think I am gonna buy Hive Scum
I would not blame you, this class is absolutely not for everyone
Look at this. Uprising mission btw
zinc phoenix
is there any reason to not do uncanny riposte on scoom?
on shivs?
it loks like the obvious way to go
or uncanny precog
b/c you get whatever that trait is that gives crit on dodge
deft stump
75 base toughness, 150 base hp
Tis but H40 zealot mindset.
Toughness broken in 1 shotstreak.
XD
plucky flax
twin fight auric, do the bell skip, die
So die in the arena?
summer prairie
yes
marble crater
Are you max level scum yet?
summer prairie
yep
plucky flax
What level do i unlock auric twins?
mighty cipher
Guess the class. For real this time.
lost delta
trying to decide between femlae savant and female loner hmmm
mental rock
Guess the class. For real this time.
Vet
marble crater
trying to decide between femlae savant and female loner hmmm
You don't have to decide, for a small price of 50k you can switch them, both are great, I am biased towards loner
deft stump
Yep. Stim same issue waste crate
tulip kettle
anyone know which mods need updating? crash on startup atm
mental rock
Mods broken in Hive Scum update
Struck through entries means the mod is updated on Nexus
Broken:
- AimGod
- AutoLoot
- BuffStackHUD
- CircumstanceFix
- ClaimAllPenances
- CollectibleFinder
- CrosshairHUD - Temp fix (#1079236212239384597 message)
- CrosshairFix
- DistinctSideMissionIcons
- Darktide Mod Loader - (temp fix #1445326463606853663 message)
DynamicCrosshair- Extended Weapon Customization
- for_the_drip
- for_the_drip_extra
- how_did_I_get_that
- kill_tracker
ManyMoreTry- MinionStatus
- name_it
- NumericUI
- Ovenproof_Scoreboard_Plugin
- PenancesForTheMission
- REALPRICES
- recoil_fix
RecolorStimms- Ring HUD
- Scoreboard
SkitariusSoloPlay- testing_utilities
TalentRefundBelow- Weapon_FOV - temp fix #1079236212239384597 message
Throw Errors
- AfterGrenade
- AutoBlitz
- character_cosmetics_view_improved
- commodores_vestures_improved
- CorrectMissionVotingInfo
crosshair_remap- debuff_indicator
- ~~FoundYa ~~
- GuaranteeWeaponSwap
- Hooked On Ogrynics
- InventoryStats
- ~~Mark9 ~~
MergedTalentStats- keep_dodging
MissionGrid- ovenproof_scoreboard_plugin
- penances_improved
- ~~RememberServerLocation ~~
- Rolling Steel Timer
- ~~ShareTalents ~~
- smaller_talent_tree
- uptime
(thank you @versed hedge for all the pre-warning)
summer prairie
but the crash is probably modloader/dmf
marble crater
TL;DR all of them
ripe obsidian
I would not blame you, this class is absolutely not for everyone
Look at this. U...
It doesn't seem like a class I would much enjoy, tbh. Playing Psyker is unique for me in DPS regards. I usually prefer tanks or supports in games
zealous wing
anyone know which mods need updating? crash on startup atm
also builds reset just fair warning
any that you sent to me should still be in DMs if they werent in the guide already, helps cut some of the work down
wraith sphinx
It doesn't seem like a class I would much enjoy, tbh. Playing Psyker is unique f...
Same, but unexpectedly I'm enjoying hs a lot so far
it's kind of refreshing to see people actually struggling in low difficulty missions lol
jovial juniper
bruh
Yeah
Fatshark trying to push perfect block
But pairs it with dodging
๐
marble crater
also builds reset just fair warning
which builds?
lone ravine
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376> which builds?
all
lone ravine
versed hedge
**Mods broken in Hive Scum update**
Struck through entries means the mod is upd...
add guarantee_weapon_swapใweapon_cosmetics_view_improvedใweapon_fovใRingHud
marble crater
Can't you copy and paste this back into the modding discord? smh
modest perch
numericui still not being part of the game is depressing tbh
zealous wing
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376> which builds?
everything
marble crater
Guess I won't be playing today then 
summer prairie
I think I got the scoreboard working, but it required a fix to the base mod and the fix was to comment out ammunition related tracking because can't be bothered
cedar drum
best meele for psyker gotta be da axe
modest perch
how long until my ability? who knows
how much ammo do i have ?
"idk figure it out it idiot"
like wtf lol i didnt realize this was tarkov
ripe obsidian
Same, but unexpectedly I'm enjoying hs a lot so far
Why struggle they, do you think? Glass cannon as compared with Arby's unkillable menace?
jovial juniper
best meele for psyker gotta be da axe
Uh
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down
Are we talking combat, tactical or chain
ripe obsidian
Tactical axe is the only good one of the three
cedar drum
The flying blue daggers
ripe obsidian
For Psyker, at least
cedar drum
Exacly
about that
Do things that enhance ranged combat damage apply on assail
Or crit chance, do they work on those
wraith sphinx
Why struggle they, do you think? Glass cannon as compared with Arby's unkillable...
Yes lmao
ripe obsidian
Do things that enhance ranged combat damage apply on assail
Yes and yes.
cedar drum
Marvelous
ripe obsidian
Yes lmao
And no dog to protect them.
It seems like Scum might be the opposite of Arby in regards to gameplay: very team-dependent, can't run off alone and expect to survive.
Low CC/control, very high damage if played well
High skill floor versus low
Etc.
wraith sphinx
It seems like Scum might be the opposite of Arby in regards to gameplay: very te...
100% agree
wispy bay
Im trying out Ganger, they are just as good as vet imo.
ripe obsidian
I am not sure how Scum fits into an H40 team, role-wise. Who do they most likely replace? Psyker? Zealot?
atomic flicker
hello siblings
what's the best stat to have a 60 (everything 80 on) psyker?
i just got force sword and inferno staff with both warp resistance on 60 and everything 80
i use the venting shriek ultimate anyway, so is this a good item stat distribution?
thank u
ripe obsidian
Im trying out Ganger, they are just as good as vet imo.
Vet has plasma gun and golden toughness, which makes it a difficult comparison. Oh, and unlimited grenades.
ripe obsidian
hello siblings
what's the best stat to have a 60 (everything 80 on) psyker?
i ...
Warp resist in most cases.
wispy bay
Vet has plasma gun and golden toughness, which makes it a difficult comparison. ...
I don't mean a direct comparison.
atomic flicker
Warp resist in most cases.
oh that's great i can focus on these weapons
thank u
ripe obsidian
If you look at the pinned build bonanza, I think I have some stat distribution info in there
Feel free to ping me with questions about the content of the bonanza
I doubt any class can supplant Psyker so long as Inferno and Trauma have infinite cleave
wispy bay
Also, if you only take VoC and plasma while ignoring the rest of vet build for more casual games... Then sure.
ripe obsidian
Apropos of nothing:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=SFc4QhBb_W0&si=hxtn2qCTof4n-NTY
ripe obsidian
Also, if you only take VoC and plasma while ignoring the rest of vet build for m...
I mean, VoC and plasma makes up 90% of H40 vets, just like inferno + bubble does for Psyker
atomic flicker
If you look at the pinned build bonanza, I think I have some stat distribution i...
what mark for force sword btw for inferno staff main weapon and only using force sword on tight spots/defence/trigger uncanny strike???
ripe obsidian
what mark for force sword btw for inferno staff main weapon and only using force...
Deimos, or Obscurus to a lesser extent
tulip kettle
EXTREMELY good at gap closing with ranged units and forcing them into melee
but, one misplay and sploot
ripe obsidian
Deimos is more defensive. The Heavy 2 will knock over a crusher or a captain on a headshot.
wispy bay
I mean, VoC and plasma makes up 90% of H40 vets, just like inferno + bubble does...
Im not even talking of H40...
ripe obsidian
scum is zealot replacement
That's what I was thinking. Which is funny, because dog Arby is also a Zealot replacement
I only really play H40, so my frame of reference is skewed
jovial juniper
I am not sure how Scum fits into an H40 team, role-wise. Who do they most likely...
They are not going to replace psyker
tulip kettle
i think it will also be able to be built as hard team support
jovial juniper
Zealot however
wispy bay
I made my comment before the H40 question... I know you are excited, but calm down.
tulip kettle
i also am currently unsure on how scum deals effectively with carapace
shivs are not it
jovial juniper
Crowbar
tulip kettle
neither are uzis
jovial juniper
Needler
zealous wing
its the saw
tulip kettle
i assumed it would be crowbar and rend stacking needler yeah
zealous wing
its 100% the saw
jovial juniper
Crowbar has Can Opener
tulip kettle
oh?
zealous wing
yeah
ripe obsidian
They are not going to replace psyker
Yeah, I said later that infinite cleave means Psyker lives forever
zealous wing
saw has two modes, toxin and brittle, the brittle kills it 3 heavy combos, toxin kils in 4
jovial juniper
It's like top right
zealous wing
and its fast
ripe obsidian
I made my comment before the H40 question... I know you are excited, but calm do...
I shall not calm down. >:(
zealous wing
i cant get saw yet so im crowbar hunting and also 1911 hunting
ripe obsidian
i think it will also be able to be built as hard team support
Stim build?
tulip kettle
yup stim build and with the modified medkit
summer prairie
shivs arent bad at cara
tulip kettle
lol from what ive seen they very much are
wispy bay
I shall not calm down. >:(
tulip kettle
seeing someone hit a crusher for 12 damage was pretty funny
zealous wing
hehehe
zealous wing
if youre fine waiting a few minutes id like to get these masteries up a little as well
summer prairie
shivs have 1600+ dps vs cara with just rampage active and obviously quite a bit more with adrenaline
and if you run more rending stuff
tulip kettle
im sure if you build them properly they can be good
but right now i have yet to see it
ripe obsidian
<:angymorrow:1062670568916267038>
:(
summer prairie
ripe obsidian
shivs have 1600+ dps vs cara with just rampage active and obviously quite a bit ...
1600 seems low
summer prairie
Not everything has amazing cara dps
jovial juniper
That's 6 hits
summer prairie
but it's decent
jovial juniper
It's over
tulip kettle
yeah i know
ripe obsidian
0.9 is crazy
0.9 ADM on the dot? Jeez
jovial juniper
0.9 ADM on the dot? Jeez
Yeah we have a graph somewhere around here
I don't have it saved
tulip kettle
but, idk killing 6+ crushers with a TTK like that in perfect circumstances doesnt seem great
ripe obsidian
Yeah we have a graph somewhere around here
I mean, I can check the code easily enough
summer prairie
rampage and adrenaline are constanty active, not really perfect
I wasn't running rending stuff
well uncanny obv
jovial juniper
I mean, I can check the code easily enough
True
It's 0.9 on carapace
Unarmored was like 2.something
It's crazy like that
tulip kettle
idk saying adrenaline and rampage are always active is like...
tulip kettle
XD
verbal thistle
he used the wrong stims and now transitioned
summer prairie
adrenaline duration is 20s and you get 15 stacks from one elite,
tulip kettle
bed twerp
summer prairie
two elite kills is another activation
jovial juniper
I really thought toxin dots wouldn't be good against carapace because that's just how dots are
tulip kettle
right so then someone yoinks your last hit
jovial juniper
But I should have known better
It's a paid dlc dot
Of course it's going to go hard
tulip kettle
it dies to a random DoT tick or something
summer prairie
then you kill something else, you've 20 seconds
tulip kettle
and you lose huge amounts of efficiency
summer prairie
and if you don't, then there's a few seconds of downtime until you do
ripe obsidian
True
It's 0.9 on carapace
Unarmored was like 2.something
How quickly can scum apply it, if built for toxin?
summer prairie
with the needler you can get to 30 very quickly, but you'll also run out of ammo playing like that immediately
maybe it doesn't matter with the ammo node
it's still not amazing for carapace when it's not aoe
it's worse dps than your shivs
wheat seal
Just saw ร Nice gdoc pinned with some builds, time to comeback on the game
tulip kettle
six has a full build repository in the pins, its likely that
knight commander dragor
drives a demolisher
marble crater
Can the build repository build my old builds for me?
zinc phoenix
speedload on double klobb with desperado is hilarious
atomic flicker
hello
does force sword push attack trigger uncanny strike? cause it lookjs like it always hits headshot
strong gulch
Yes
atomic flicker
sounds great
is it the only melee weapon that does that?
strong gulch
From 9m away? Only force melee can. Force sword and FGS can.
zinc phoenix
bruh
cold ivy
it's all good since hive scum doesn't have a rapid-firing weapon with decent crit rate, that also has infinite ammunition as long as they kill specials/elites
zinc phoenix
Me gusta klobb gaming
I just kinda walk forward brrrting things
Then if I wanna do a lil melee I have SG at home
In the form of drugs that boost my melee and rend into space
Itโs funneh
strong gulch
Neat. Upcoming event has 500 aquillas as a reward.
@plucky flax You were nerfed. RIP
"Changed the Symbol Auspex minigame to no longer generate two targets in the same column for consecutive rows."
Dev Note: The Voltaic Shock Mine was too powerful to justify getting a free Charge every 60s.
plucky flax
<@150967101836886016> You were nerfed. RIP
"Changed the Symbol Auspex minigame ...
Dang they nerf my cheat mod.
strong gulch
ye
zealous wing
it's all good since hive scum doesn't have a rapid-firing weapon with decent cri...
dw its all good its not like psyker has that either.... 
strong gulch
They don't mean that KF procs at critical peril now do they?
"Fixed an issue where 'Kinetic Flayer' wouldn't properly activate when at Critical Peril."
summer prairie
They do
zealous wing
They don't mean that KF procs at critical peril now do they?
"Fixed an issue wh...
... was that an issue? it was stated in the actual talent it doesnt work at critical
strong gulch
Right.
summer prairie
The issue was it going on a cooldown and not proccing
summer prairie
Now it procs though
strong gulch
fierce crest
That alone is worth the whole talent tree reset
marble crater
What kind of crazy person would do such a thing?
marble crater
People with an ADHD hyperfixation are the backbone of gaming communities
ripe obsidian
Well, you folks are generally kind to me, so I want to give something back
marble crater
I'm generally kind to everyone, you are not special
royal totem
Six is the king ๐
marble crater
Your service is greatly appreciated, both to use and to cut down on time helping new people, mostly the second part
strong gulch
@tulip kettle don't wait for me. gotta make a character and my game is crashing
gonna have to play the which mod is doing it game
tulip kettle
i can send you a list
ripe obsidian
I'm generally kind to everyone, you are not special <:angymorrow:106267056891626...
Maybe I don't want to be special!
tulip kettle
also need DMF update from the modding discord
safe bets is just disable scoreboard, numeric UI and ovenproofs
strong gulch
ye
tulip kettle
message me when youre ready
marble crater
Maybe I don't want to be special!
Fine, don't be special then
strong gulch
Does hive scum not give us an extra character slot?
lone ravine
Does hive scum not give us an extra character slot?
we have 8 total slots I think?
atomic flicker
for inferno staff playstyle, when using force sword, what's the second blessing i use next to uncanny strike?
Deflector??
strong gulch
Yes but arby gave us and extra one
ripe obsidian
for inferno staff playstyle, when using force sword, what's the second blessing ...
Deflector if defensive, superiority if offensive
I prefer Superiority
It does dumb things with Soulblaze and Uncanny
strong gulch
for inferno staff playstyle, when using force sword, what's the second blessing ...
if you want
deflector give defensive utility. is good
can so superioiruty for more damage if DoT maxing
atomic flicker
the blessings only work on the specific weapon yeah?
its not a character buff, just a weapon buff? meaning it wont apply if i switch weapons?
strong gulch
Gotta delete a character I guess then.
strong gulch
its not a character buff, just a weapon buff? meaning it wont apply if i switch ...
For specific DoT maxing for SB, you will be on your melee. YOu apply SB with staff then switch to melee to stack uncanny and other offensive blessings if you have them.
This is mostly done on armor packs.
strong gulch
Gotta delete a character I guess then.
Goodbye Unlucky for Some.
lone ravine
Gotta delete a character I guess then.
More psykers for the god emperor
marble crater
Gotta delete a character I guess then.
atomic flicker
For specific DoT maxing for SB, you will be on your melee. YOu apply SB with sta...
ooooh
i just keep blasting with full charge secondary on auric and only use melee if im swarmed rn
strong gulch
Don't full charge
It takes a long time, leaves you vulnerable, and you drop blazeaway stacks
atomic flicker
It takes a long time, leaves you vulnerable, and you drop blazeaway stacks
i might have read it wrong, i thought that did more damage the longer i charged based on ammo
strong gulch
i might have read it wrong, i thought that did more damage the longer i charged ...
It stacks quickly but the stacks have a short window of hang time. So arounf 45% and lower keep the stacks up
jovial juniper
Goodbye Unlucky for Some.
Nooooo don't kill Unlucky For Some, he'll give toughness upon death
๐ญ
ripe obsidian
its not a character buff, just a weapon buff? meaning it wont apply if i switch ...
Korrekt. But force swords can apply Uncanny with push attacks, because ???, so you get stacks high, swap to sword, then push attack and use Shriek to keep stacks high
It's dumb
And shouldn't work
Uncanny is broken.
lone ravine
push attacks target the head is all I know
feral needle
Whats the best psyker build atm?
ripe obsidian
Multiple.
If you're asking about meta, I have a short section on the meta in the pinned build guide
Most meta build is inferno + bubble
It isn't the strongest imo, but people like to hide in bubbles
Strongest is probably scrier's gaze meleeker if you're very good, and inferno + Shriek if you're not as good.
open iris
Flame + shriek is real satisfying
ripe obsidian
I fall into the latter category of "not as good"
feral needle
Meleeker?
ripe obsidian
A portmanteau of "melee" and "psyker"
feral needle
I think infero feels so strange to use haha