psyker-class

[ripe obsidian]

But this is a game where seconds decide life and death

[royal totem]

if a zealot can book 6 seconds earlier. it can completely change whether you win or lose

[rugged jolt]

the math is sound on paper, but when you realize that it's just about a few seconds off in between ability uses, and it's not like you use it once it's off cooldown immediately right, it no longer seems that great, at least not to me
on the other hand though, you do also have things like "psykinetic's aura", so maybe it all adds up and makes for a fine addition to psyker's CR game

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek 3 seconds sooner can save your life. Bubble 4.5 seconds sooner, too.

[rugged jolt]

but i'm really new to the game so i can't judge a lot, still learning things

[ripe obsidian]

In higher difficulties, I almost always use Shriek or Bubble the instant it's off cooldown

There is rarely a reason not to

[rugged jolt]

is "kinetic presence" bad cause it doesn't do much in terms of breaking points?

[ripe obsidian]

Correct

Kinetic Presence just doesn't do anything meaningful

[royal totem]

i'm just going to say it does a lot for the team. and you have to realize the higher the difficulty you get the more of a team game it is

[royal totem]

it doesn't even hit anything in low difficulty?

[quartz barn]

faster shriek is great for extra stagger if you need it, not so much for your peril rotation

faster bubble on the other hand is amazing since its just more uptime

[ripe obsidian]

And let's say you get 1000 total seconds of cooldown reduction across your team in a 30 minute mission from Seer's Presence. Probably a low estimate, but still. That's almost 17 minutes of total cooldown saved for the whole team

That's huge

[royal totem]

faster shriek is also more damage directly

[ripe obsidian]

Combat abilities are immensely powerful, and the more you can use them, the better off you'll be

[royal totem]

with the flames modifier which you always run with shriek

[rugged jolt]

i was also told by someone that bubble is overrated because it encourages a defensive playstyle which is less favored on higher difficulties where being stationary is just bad, but idk if it's worthwhile advice or just some bs

[broken carbon]

not really

kinetic presence is meh

[ripe obsidian]

They're using bubble poorly

[quartz barn]

prob block whoever said that tbh

not joking btw

[royal totem]

errr i'm talking the CD not kinetic presence

[broken carbon]

ohg

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble is a very aggressive ability if you use it properly

[broken carbon]

my bad

yah CD is fine

[royal totem]

it's all good 😄

[ripe obsidian]

And, honestly, throwing down a bubble while your team fights a boss or a crusher swarm is always useful

[royal totem]

bubble is pretty good. idk what they're on

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble is super strong at any difficulty. It's just less exciting than Shriek or Scrier's

[royal totem]

maybe is a salty psyker that keeps getting rejected because they're trying to run shriek 😄

[rugged jolt]

i initially thought i would go for bubble without a doubt, but now i'm kinda debating whether shriek is better for creeping flames, seems like it can do massive damage but idk

[royal totem]

shriek does lots of damage 😄

[quartz barn]

both work, just a different build

[ripe obsidian]

Speaking from an H40 perspective: I prefer Shriek, it is more fun, and I feel more impactful with it, but Bubble is better for playing with randoms 9 times out of 10

[quartz barn]

just use both over time

[royal totem]

sorry Six. i only play with psykers that run bubble

[ripe obsidian]

My last run was a bubble run

[royal totem]

good thing nobody can call me out on that being a lie

[ripe obsidian]

It probably saved the game

Bubble saves teammates a lot more than Shriek does

So if you aren't sure your teammates will survive...

[quartz barn]

saves me too with my playstyle

i always frontline because ee is broken

[royal totem]

i never play with bubble psykers

[rugged jolt]

are there any psyker talents that are straight up bad no matter the build or difficulty cause they're like bugged or just don't work as intended? something that's flat-out bait

[royal totem]

maybe PoTS? i can't confirm though 🤔 actually WAIT

the coherency talent

[quartz barn]

unlucky for some

[ripe obsidian]

PotS is... okay

It's a reasonable pick with very specific builds

[royal totem]

the 75% coherency talent just bad

[ripe obsidian]

Which is to say, like 2 builds

[brazen warren]

lol coherency radius buff talents always a dump choice for sure

[royal totem]

most people would say mind in motion is bad

[brazen warren]

watch them make a class that has other effects related to coherency radius

[rugged jolt]

can you please tell me what PoTS stands for? am just new to the game

[ripe obsidian]

Penetration of the Soul

[quartz barn]

this

[ripe obsidian]

There's an acronym guide in the pins and in the build guide

[rugged jolt]

thanks, i'll check it out

[royal totem]

Penetration of the Soul. it's a talent in the bottom left part of the tree

idk if there's any other "traps" though

[quartz barn]

ngl they shouldve put trauma and purg in that list

who uses vs for voidstrike

[rugged jolt]

if i play on damnation/auric, will i miss out if i don't minmax my build or follow current meta builds? rather just take whatever i think is more fun

assuming i play skillfully enough otherwise

like how much is the game meta oriented

[ripe obsidian]

Don't worry about meta at damnation

If you're skilled enough, don't worry about it at H40

[rugged jolt]

that's really nice to hear

guess that means the game's well balanced, more or less

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, bubble is the Psyker meta with randoms. I still run Shriek with success.

[verbal thistle]

overkill

the special is infinite cleave

and the important heavy attacks are single target

usntable stacks 4 times

the tool tip is lying

[royal totem]

if i don't take wrath what should i take

[verbal thistle]

5% stacks 4 times

so max 20%

check psyker guide in pins to make sure

am in match rn

[strong gulch]

is correct

[verbal thistle]

they broke tooltip so unstable lies

[rugged jolt]

between regular force sword and force greatsword, which one performs better on average? or does it mostly depend on whether you wanna cleave more or be faster and more agile?

[royal totem]

it also depends on what you're using it with

[rugged jolt]

could you please elaborate a little?

[patent jacinth]

FGS is generally more versatile but normal force sword has incredible carapace damage

[royal totem]

so most people use a force sword with something like inferno staff where it's more of a sidearm

like horde doesn't matter cuz you burn horde with inferno so you use force sword for carapace or stacking uncanny

you use FGS in a build that doesn't have much horde clear and you still want carapace damage hmm.....it's more you use it when it's your main weapon

i would say it that way

if you want ultimate mobility......you use knife 😏 (it does have downsides and they're a little more major)

[rugged jolt]

yeah ok that makes sense

thank you

[royal totem]

no problem!

to elaborate even more it's common in melee focused builds to use FGS instead of FS for example meleeker/gunker uses FGS+a gun normally.

[ripe obsidian]

Don't forget to get your silly Twitch ogryn clothes

[royal totem]

there's a build that uses FGS+electro staff where electro staff is to shoot ranged and specials without needing ammo.

should give you an idea of when FGS is used

i won't stop you from using FGS+inferno staff but it's kinda redundant and you're going to feel slow and probs get left behind by randoms

but if you find that fun be my guest

(put our service to the test, tie your napkin around your neck)

[rugged jolt]

yeah your explanation for it serving as a side arm since you're already using inferno for horde clear makes perfect sense, i was thinking along that line too

[royal totem]

FGS as with most slow weapons in this game have a bit higher skill floor to use than something fast.

requires a bit more deliberate strokes rather than just waving about

[rugged jolt]

oh and also, can someone please tell me if Blaze Away works on staves? i'm assuming it should since staves have this blessing, it's just that the magazine part is confusing since staves don't really have magazines

[royal totem]

it works amazing on inferno staves

it's just based on the percent you charged it to

Six could tell you the exact percentage you need for inferno but i don't remember what lul

[patent jacinth]

I want to strangle whatever fool thought giving purg 40% power was a good idea

[royal totem]

it's a great idea

[patent jacinth]

Its a horrible idea

It didn't need it in the slightest

[royal totem]

incorrect. it's great 😏

[patent jacinth]

Can we just

Obliterate inferno and voidblast

Pretty please

[royal totem]

no

just cuz you don't like it doesn't mean other people shouldn't get to have fun

[patent jacinth]

They're an absolute balance catastrophe

[royal totem]

and i'm fcking tired of this argument that somebody feels the need to rehash and bring up every week.

[patent jacinth]

Infinite cleave and dot propagation is just something that shouldn't exist

[dull scroll]

non-psykers are jelly of our great warp power

[ripe obsidian]

I'll infinitely cleave you. >:(

[royal totem]

game is based around its existence now. can't do anything about it. you don't work at fatshark. i don't work at it. so can we just drop this subject

[dull scroll]

that allow us to do this

https://youtube.com/shorts/Wr9kmeaKVfk

[spiral lion]

sup people. any news on any changes that comming with new class to others?

[ripe obsidian]

Not that I know of

[zinc phoenix]

Zealot gets a free shot of space coke

[spiral lion]

aren't they are already high enough, that they hear emperor whispering them?

[zinc phoenix]

Emprah whispering do more cocaine

[sturdy reef]

who wants to do a h40

[ripe obsidian]

Map and modifiers?

[sturdy reef]

1 slot

uh

consignment yard with stimms and red rage

[ripe obsidian]

Eh. Sounds like too much stress for me right now

[sturdy reef]

np

[ripe obsidian]

I will continue being a cowboy

[wispy abyss]

lol

[strong gulch]

Gonna give the game a try. Brains have been sus.

[raw flax]

what weapon for inferno build

melee wise

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos or Obscurus force swords, dueling sword, knife

[royal totem]

recommend Deimos probably? obscurus works too. if you don't want to deal with peril dueling sword. knife is the mobility play but does less damage than all the previous options

[tulip kettle]

Force sword because maintains peril and stacks uncanny and CC's all with push attack

[royal totem]

be warned force sword can accidentally blow you up :3 cuz force push attack gens peril and all

[rugged jolt]

and what perks would you guys recommend for both inferno and force sword?

i'm thinking flak damage can't be bad

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno:
Flak + Unyielding or Flak + Crit

FGS: Carapace + Unyielding

Force sword: Maniac + Carapace imo

[strong gulch]

And I'm spent.

https://tenor.com/view/tobias-funke-and-scene-gif-25594317

[raw flax]

follow up question again on the inferno staff, warp nexus + blaze away typically but would I swap warp out for the brittle one for things like rotten armor in havoc 40 ?

[ripe obsidian]

I would not

Uncanny on Force Swords is better if your team can't deal with armor for you

[crisp ether]

the game being based around its existence is why the state of the game is as questionable as it is with the clown car horde spawns and sound bugs

[royal totem]

yes but i have no faith that obesemegladon will balance it properly if they were to heavily nerf or remove them. therefore i'll take the evil i know rather than some hope for obesemegladon doing good things

though also as i've stated, thematically i love burning things

[crisp ether]

i do too, i just also acknowledge maybe having it implemented in a way where it wouldn't cause so many issues would probably be better for the game as a whole but pandora's box is already open i guess 🤷‍♀️

it's flamer too

just to a much lesser extent

[royal totem]

it would. but the problem is like you said, pandora's box being pandora's box

i don't bring flamer on zealot cuz whenever i do, people don't shoot specials 🙁

[deft stump]

Armoured waves need to be halved at the minimum if they wanna remove uncanny.

[mighty cipher]

I think I just pulled the worst laspistol ever concived

[patent jacinth]

I've got a 0% shredder

Maybe 2 actually

[nocturne wasp]

60 damage rolls are always funny

[cold ivy]

imagine if rotten armor DR also applied to dots

[zealous wing]

then there just would not be a way to deal with rot reliably

[ripe obsidian]

Syllo wants it to apply to melee as well as ranged.

The masochist.

[mighty cipher]

Is it 20 or 21 that HPs ones usually go at highest level?

[zealous wing]

21

17 for T

[mighty cipher]

Cool

[verbal thistle]

funny thing

[ripe obsidian]

You're a funny thing. >:(

[verbal thistle]

we'll see if it goes through

you can see in the havoc video by playtester

that it is melee dr as well

[ripe obsidian]

I know it's intended.

It just sucks

[verbal thistle]

yup

[ripe obsidian]

Meanwhile my reported EK crit fix is just ignored. Alas.

Imagine purple crushers with rotten armor resist on melee and ranged.

[rancid tusk]

can i get a quick rundown on how flame staff psyker plays? specifically for large packs of crushers

uncanny stacks seem to fall off too quickly for me to get a full charged flame blast off

or am i supposed to just be using the flame staff without uncanny

[plucky flax]

You can let teammates deal with crushers too

If they can

[strong gulch]

Don't full charge inferno

unless you are starting an engagement.

[ripe obsidian]

Burn crushers, then swap to force sword and spam push attack.

Swapping between the firestick and sword won't do much

[strong gulch]

Full charging takes a lot time and you are vulnerable in that time and you drop blaze away stacks.

SB stacks stay on a target for about 8s before falling off one by one.

Like in that vid above, force sword can stack uncanny with push attacks from up to 9m away.

[rancid tusk]

do you take blazing spirit on the force sword then?

[strong gulch]

So get your SB stacks up, switch to FS melee and PA, then reapply SB every few seconds to keep the stack up.

[zealous wing]

no

[strong gulch]

no

[zealous wing]

never put blazing spirit on a melee weapon, theres no point

[rancid tusk]

so the initial stacks from staff + shriek is enough to kill?

[zealous wing]

sometimes, but you also restack with another shriek or more fire as needed

[rancid tusk]

gotcha

[rancid tusk]

ngl forgot force sword had uncanny too, glad i don't have to play dueling sword lol

[rancid tusk]

thanks, I'll give this a shot. Been trying to play without looking up builds so I have no frame of reference as to how fast/slow proper builds are supposed to deal with rotten armor packs

[plucky flax]

Can play fgs mk6 too

Its really good against crushers

[ripe obsidian]

No you

[plucky flax]

If uncanny nerf is real then its fgs6 buff

[ripe obsidian]

What nerf?

[plucky flax]

Up to 40% max stack rather than 100

[ripe obsidian]

Neat

[strong gulch]

[plucky flax]

I had a melee psyker yesterday morning he got trapped and died within 3 mins of the round then ragequitted

Bruh moment

[quiet inlet]

tracks

[strong gulch]

sry it was me

[plucky flax]

Not many players in the morning so I took 2 psykers and they were both on inferno so I asked for 1 of them to change build

Turned out both psykers sucked really bad 🤣

[long saddle]

I heard ppl say that it was only for new weapons

of those that tested

[plucky flax]

Hmm why only new weapon. I guess dual shivs armour piercing is too op

[long saddle]

it's possible they didn't touch existing stuff on that build, but we'll see soon ig

[zealous wing]

bone saw has two modes, brittleness and toxin, so brittleness plus uncanny plus toxin would probably be a bit much

[plucky flax]

The animation looks kind of weird with the double stab. The way the hands are on top of each other look odd

[zealous wing]

i hope when playing it doesnt feel as jank because they also have a throwing knife special

[plucky flax]

More comfy to have arms more parallel and crossing across chest

Im playing kcd2 the animation is very fluid and not janky like kdc1

[fierce crest]

encountered my first smyker in hard content

i get it now

i saw bubble, greatsword, doublebarrel and got tricked

[white sky]

Lmfao

Lightning hands came out and never left, huh?

[verbal thistle]

There are many signs of a smyker

A good rule of thumb, if smite is blitz leave on sight

[strong gulch]

I had quite the game earlier. There were 2 psykers who had scrier's and smite. I thought for sure it was gonna be a double smyker horror show.

To my surprise tho, there was very little smiting. Must have been charged strikes enjoyers.

[quartz flare]

I wanna attempt to revision the Smite Blitz (I have nothing better to do)

<Change the rmb blitz to an actual damage dealer but consume charges that regens over time, max 3>

-Normal
lmb: The same
rmb: 400% dmg, targets maximum 2-3 enemies, , high peril generation, consumes 1 charge over 3

-Empowered
lmb: similar to the current EP smite (same dmg/same spread), much higher peril generation
rmb: 800% dmg and very wide/fast spread, extremely high peril generation, have only 1 charge (like ogyrn nuke but electric)

[fierce crest]

I think it could just be a slow instead of a stun

Or only briefly stuns when it first connects to a target, then slows after

[haughty star]

Smite is perfect the way it is

Best blitz ever

[patent jacinth]

Bait used to be believable

[daring comet]

whats a good build for a beginner brand new psyker

[patent jacinth]

Melee psyker

Its like zealot

But you do way the fuck more damage

[zealous wing]

theres a guide in the pins with a ton of templates and full builds, also explains what everything does if you feel like reading (optional)

[daring comet]

this it?

[ripe obsidian]

Hey, I think I know the guy who wrote that

But there should be some beginner builds in there, yeah

[daring comet]

i forgot how drippy the psyker is

[strong gulch]

The very first build is geared towards new psykers.

Bee keeping

[daring comet]

I know thanks

[zealous wing]

managed to clutch a damnation with psyker12, on an incomplete bubbleknight build. never underestimate the bubbleknight

[cold ivy]

i don't really know where to ask this, but what happens during the season reset if my assignment rank drops below 30 (e.g. to 29) while my clearance rank is 40? next season will i start with clearance 29, or clearance 30?

[zealous wing]

last season, i had a clearance of 40, but havoc assignment of like, 24 or 26 or so, and got put at 30. dunno if it for sure will work the same this season but it probably would

[cold ivy]

good to know, thanks!

[zealous wing]

actually no it was more severe i remember now

[cold ivy]

i did hit assignment 40 this season but went on vacation, got hit with decay and then started losing a lot ;__;

[zealous wing]

it WAS mid 20s, but i dropped it to 10 and below to grind havoc assignments

so even thenit still put me at 30

[cold ivy]

that's comforting knowledge

i wonder what the meta will be like when scum comes out... i hear chem toxin is super strong

[zealous wing]

ye we'll have to wait and see

luckily most people should have a week or so before they start getting the "run this or else" from every party finder

possibly longer but it depends on how drastically obviously strong something is

and with that, she's done

to the black ship

[cold ivy]

time for psyker-xiii

[zealous wing]

honestly idk if im gonna keep the numbering scheme

[ripe obsidian]

Why do you do this

[zealous wing]

definitely keeping count but if not on the name then in a notepad or so

[zealous wing]

because im broken 😔

does let me get melk bucks out the ass tho

[weary idol]

it's not even about it being obviously strong

it's about how good it is at making your team stay alive (to lose slower more often than not)

[zealous wing]

thats what i mean by strong, something that clearly works better than the other options

[weary idol]

okay but the only defensive ability that does that is veteran's VoC

[zealous wing]

ie, if the supply crate is dogshit vs if its the best way to spend a med stim

[weary idol]

dome is very obviously good defensively

[zealous wing]

zealot book

[weary idol]

but anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together will tell you shriek is better

chorus very obviously staggers and keeps the team alive

but anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together will tell you fury/shroudfield is obviously better

you lose so much damage to opportunity cost with book

that I honestly consider it the worst active ability in the game

[ripe obsidian]

I have 100k melk bucks and I haven't tried to complete a contract in over a year

[weary idol]

It is an ability that you press so that you can do nothing with it

And instead hope to the big emperor in the sky that your teammates will do something

In a coordinate group of skilled players that's pretty alright

[zealous wing]

i been here almost 4 months and i do gambling

[weary idol]

But then...skilled players don't really need the effect chorus provides

[zealous wing]

depends where you mark that skill line

Ainz level, probably not, but anyone lower would benefit from book, to the point i sometimes run book with dom karien and agent

depends on map, modifiers, and team loadouts

[weary idol]

and obviously the skill of the 3 people carrying your useless ass

when you run book

[zealous wing]

if i dont run book one of them does lmao

[weary idol]

so one of you is always dead weight

which contributes to your feeling of "needing" book

since one of you is always a non-contributor with that ability

[atomic flicker]

hello im new, i started yesterday

for inferno staff psyker, i saw that melee is not really important and your main thing is really the staff for both close and long range and even for toughness generation

im playing on heresy qp now and it's still working out fine to stick in range 90% of the time and only go melee to finish off armor and super armor with headshot stabs

will this still be the case for higher difficulty like legend or cata? (idk what they're called in darktide)

[weary idol]

yeah that's basically how staff psyker plays

you can even use your staff to kill those heavily armored boys if you use one of the three melees that has the Uncanny Strikes blessing

Force Sword, Dueling Sword, and Combat Knife all have it

And it can enable your flame staff to deal good damage to armored enemies as well

[zealous wing]

force weapon is the far better option for safety

[atomic flicker]

yea i was following jeficus guide

what's the best melee for it?

i have 2k hours in vermintide so im used to weapon combos and rapier works fine, but i haven't tested the other 2

[weary idol]

yeah

[atomic flicker]

i like sienna hehe

[weary idol]

force sword has good safety and is easy to get headshots with because the push attack is always a headshot

[atomic flicker]

flamethrower go brrrr

[weary idol]

dueling sword and knife have better dodges if you care about mobility

[zealous wing]

a deimos is the safest mark of force sword of the three for inferno

[atomic flicker]

is headshot triggering uncanny strike?

i still don't understand the weak point stuff it's not in vermintide

[weary idol]

yes

[atomic flicker]

how do you make more enemies in meat grinder?

[weary idol]

game calles headshots weakpoints because for THE BEAST OF NURGLE SPECIFICALLY it doesn't actually have a weakpoint on its head

[zealous wing]

creature spawner mod

[weary idol]

Creature Spawner mod

just like in vermintide 2

quality of life is hidden away behind mods

[zealous wing]

well it DOES but its harder to hit

[weary idol]

very sad

[weary idol]

yeah but it's still not their head it's their mouth

their kissin' lips

[zealous wing]

ye but its on their head

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bite-surprise-attack-radlcies-gif-25293070

[atomic flicker]

like the stormfiend? weak spot is the backside?

[weary idol]

yes

[atomic flicker]

oh it's that glowy thing

pus globule

also, is it normal for darktide to be this dark? (i understand it's the name, but it's jarring coming from the other game)

i followed the brightness settings where the left icon is no longer visible

and i can't see enemies at all

another reason why i like the flamestorm staff cause it lights up the area

[zealous wing]

you cant send screenshots yet until you get a red name, so, you wanna join a voice chat real quick and screenshare so i can take a look?

most of us i think do raise the brightness but thats sounds a little extreme

[atomic flicker]

o im not ingame rn, jus asking

[zealous wing]

ah ok

what you described sounds like a lights out map not a normal map

hence the concern

[atomic flicker]

i followed the instructions ingame for brightness settings, and -0.88 is the level where I cant see the left icon anymore

[zealous wing]

im looking now and oh you poor soul

[atomic flicker]

i have the opposite issue with vermintide when i started

that game was too damn bright I can't see anything when ther there's fire on my screen

[atomic flicker]

game told me to set it that way

[zealous wing]

gloomy vibes tho i kinda like

[atomic flicker]

guess i might boost it up on higher difficulties

i had to nuke my settings when playing cataclysm

so i can see stuff better

[zealous wing]

wishing i had true solo mod so i could just dive into a map rq to help figure out the ideal setting for "not too bright not too dark"

[atomic flicker]

game looked like ass when i tried to boost brightness when i started

so i just assumed based on the ingame instructions that the game is supposed to look that dark

[zealous wing]

maxxed out, .5, 0, -.5

[atomic flicker]

to be fair, -0.88 looks amazing when there's other light sources around

[zealous wing]

god imagine playing lights out on -.88

[atomic flicker]

but the dark areas are literally dark

i can't see enemies standing in the dark until they're in my face

[zealous wing]

im not joking about this. on maxxed out (how i normally play), theres areas in lights ON maps (normal) where i need to use my guns flashlight. lights out you still cant see shit. even on max

[verbal thistle]

I have a few clips of 3rd person no HUD in lights out, it made it look like Dead Space

[atomic flicker]

is flashlight manual on off or nah

[zealous wing]

dear lord ainz

[verbal thistle]

It removed all player lighting

I only had weapon affects and environment light

[atomic flicker]

i just assumed the game is supposed to look like that lmao

[verbal thistle]

Base game you have a flashlight attached to you cross hair

[zealous wing]

theres a small dim one on all the time for right in your face visibility, but some guns also have a special flashlight on them you can use

[verbal thistle]

3rd person removes that

[zealous wing]

the sight gloom is kinda nice for lobby

it even affects the menu tho thats pretty funny

hey now

hey now

[wraith sphinx]

classic excise vault qp

at least it helps me pad the poxbreaker penance nicelz

[cold ivy]

i just saw vamp's video about upcoming havoc tweaks... rotten armor DR also applies to melee now? this is gonna be a rough one

my guess for upcoming meta is running both purg uncanny psyker and needle pistol hivescum to just brute force it with dot damage

[summer prairie]

using trauma once gets past their initial high dr

[cold ivy]

one trauma blast is enough to reduce their hp to a level where they no longer have DR (also does trauma count as ranged damage for DR)? that'll be nice

[summer prairie]

No

[cold ivy]

or were you saying "just use trauma to keep knocking them over so you can kill them safely"

[summer prairie]

trauma isn't subject to the dr in general

so it's decent

[cold ivy]

ah i see

it's coded like grenades, i assume

[summer prairie]

yes

[cold ivy]

sounds good! i think purg will probably still have competitive kill times on giant armor trains just because you can stack soulblaze on everything at once and then stack uncanny, but trauma sounds like a good and safe alternative cuz it comes with hella stagger

[wet belfry]

Rotten and encroaching together would be miserable for melee classes.

[daring comet]

The force greatsword is so fun

[cold ivy]

feels like the frontliners main job will be mostly stagger/CC to keep armor off the backliners who're using nades/dots to kill, while trying to focus down the pink ones so they die faster

it just takes roughly twice as long because you gotta kill all the pink ones first, then kill the full health enemies they were healing. brute forcing through 800 heal per second on carapace is probably not realistic with melee+ranged DR active

rotten stimms is also gonna be a nightmare - blue DR reduced to 60% and no longer having stagger resist (instead it's red that has it) means blue is tanky but can be staggered and red is stagger immune but has no DR, so you can CC blues and nuke reds but with rotten in the mix you may need a nonmelee/nonranged way to open them first.

i think havoc40 crushers have 10k hp, which means in order to get one below 90% threshold so it "only" takes half damage, you either need 4k melee/ranged damage or 1k worth of nades/trauma/dots

[summer prairie]

I think their effective hp is "only" like 13528 vs melee/ranged, which is still a lot but less than you would think based on the dr

vs 9750 normal crusher

[cold ivy]

yeah as long as the damage is being dealt in very small chunks i assume

[summer prairie]

sure

[cold ivy]

in the extreme example where you attack an unopened crusher with thrust shroudfield thammer, i assume the entire first hit will be 1/4-ed

but that just means you gotta open them up before using single big hits i guess

my gripe with rotten armor is that (as far as i can tell) there's no good visual indicator as to whether a unit is opened or not. currently it doesn't matter as much because nobody in their right mind uses guns against rotten armor and melee doesn't care about rotten, but in the upcoming patch when rotten armor applies to 90% of our outgoing damage it'll matter a lot more

and even if there were, the green farts on death make it hard to see anything... this is probably where hp bar mods would be useful but i don't like the visual clutter there

[summer prairie]

no good no, but I think they start leaking more gas but it's not reasonable to know based on that

[patent steeple]

man, I really need more Diamantine ready for Hivescum launch (I only have 480), but Auric gives so little of it per mission compared to how much I need, and my team almost never picks up Diamantine because apparently Plasteel is more important despite being as common in Auric as grains of sand on a beach due to both Plasteel pickups and shooting the Heretic Idols...

I am real tempted to waste tons of Melk-bucks on weapons just to scrap em for bonus crafting mats, but I know scrapping gives very little Diamantine at best...

[plucky flax]

Best way is to do h40 for the weekly chest

[patent steeple]

am still below havoc 20, so not an option...

[plucky flax]

Should ask karien for free carry

[wraith sphinx]

Speedrun mortis trials

[patent steeple]

does the crafting mats from that scale based on difficulty?

[zealous wing]

or do twin fight over and over

[wraith sphinx]

I don't remember

[glass sundial]

for real?

finally ffs

[oak echo]

Surprised we got away with a shroudfield hammer and tankgryn that can't do damage

[acoustic jacinth]

Nice. Whilst it does not apply to all players, shroudfield hammer almost always ends up like this sadly

[wraith sphinx]

TOOK THEM LONG ENOUGH DIDN'T IT

[acoustic jacinth]

There's a distinct lack of sustain throughout the game

[oak echo]

It was rotten armor, too

[hidden current]

Which blessings are best for blaze force greatsword that i'm using only for clearing hordes?

And what kind of enemies are most popular in hordes? I'd like to choose proper perks

[acoustic jacinth]

Wrath and unstable power

Wrath is pure cleave unstable power is strength which includes cleave, yet again

But the dmg increase is also very good

[hidden current]

Yeah but this is only like +5% strength, right? I don't really use melee when i've peril stacked

[acoustic jacinth]

20

Darktide descriptions are bad

Anyways as for perks

There is place for personal taste

[patent steeple]

what about riposte or shred for more crits, so that armoured stuff can die quicker?

[acoustic jacinth]

I run maniac + unyielding to 1 tap maniacs and well, push more damage vs bosses since staffing bosses isn't the best thing

[acoustic jacinth]

They're good but your cleave will be very mid this way

[tulip kettle]

shred is better than wrath

you do much better by critting more than hitting 1 extra poxwalker

and you should have warp splitting anyway

[acoustic jacinth]

1 extra poxwalker is not what 200% cleave gives you

[tulip kettle]

do you not run warp splitting?

[acoustic jacinth]

I do not

No reason to since i do not take assail either

[tulip kettle]

that explains it

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah

I use run of the mill shriek staffker with KF

[tulip kettle]

thing is you literally just dont need wrath on FGS because of its mechanics and that you cant cleave stuff like crushers anyway

just crit twice so you charge FGS then slash

everything dies

cleave for what

[acoustic jacinth]

It's not for carapace though, it's just for horde clear like the guy was saying

[tulip kettle]

yeah in which case just use special

[acoustic jacinth]

It does not charge up that fast

[tulip kettle]

you will charge faster by critting

you charge based on enemies you kill

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah

[tulip kettle]

crits = more kills = faster charge

then slash

[acoustic jacinth]

Cleave is more kills too, yknow, because you're hitting substantially more stuff

[tulip kettle]

plus also increases dps into high value targets

its not, though

because of how it works

you dont start with 5 stacks of wrath

and by the time you hit 5 times to stack it you should be getting charged

if you crit 2 extra times on those 5 hits you will have significantl more charge and then can slash

plus, in high havoc even 200% cleave is not doing much for you

[acoustic jacinth]

I think this is a gross overestimation of how quick wrath can increase your horde clear even if you do need 5 hits, but alright

[tulip kettle]

but, you do you

underestimation?

idk i think 3.5x mass increases means you arent doing as much as you think.

[acoustic jacinth]

Oh, is that the right way to put it

But yeah, i personally dont use fgs for anything other than trash clear/mutants charging in

So i don't really see the value of dropping wrath

Especially when i do not use warp splitting either

[tulip kettle]

i guess outside of havoc it might be okay

i still think its better to charge special faster and get DPS increases into bosses/crushers/maulers/ragers

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah but you are using your sword for more than just hordes in that case

I main EK even within havocs so

[tulip kettle]

...

im not gonna say anything to that

if you are using EK into crushers in havoc i feel bad for you.

[acoustic jacinth]

It's nowhere near that drastic, M2 with flurry + nexus keeps cara hordes debilitated easily. I'm softening them up just enough for them to be easy pickings for anyone in the team

[tulip kettle]

ok 🙂

[acoustic jacinth]

If i'm not killing them myself that is

[tulip kettle]

i only play uprising anyway

[acoustic jacinth]

I'm not doubting your playstyle/experience here, but i am debating the alternative being "feeling sorry" lol

[deft stump]

I take wrath only cos my funni tank build is for heresy mainly. You can just cleave and still kill fast. Wrath isn't the havoc pick.

[acoustic jacinth]

Unstable power + passive forms of damage psyker builds generally have such as warp rider do easily push you to a satisfactory TTK for any trash wave though. In this case, the entire convo shifted to shred being better because dom is using the fgs for more than general wave clear

Which, was not the starting topic/question

[deft stump]

Ah. But yeah, there's many legit choices for it.

[acoustic jacinth]

I am deeefinitely not downplaying shred here

Since mk6 fgs is an amazing cara killer

But i just don't think it's the... best of all pick for general wave clear, especially whilst lacking warp splitting and assail

[dull scroll]

in havoc 6 is better, too many elites you need that single target

warp slice shores up any short coming with wave clear

[plucky flax]

I use shred unstable because im noob

[tulip kettle]

also bald

[plucky flax]

If youre pro you can try riposte unstable

[fiery stratus]

I use haymaker surgical for fgs

[plucky flax]

Thats op

[tulip kettle]

ooof what a combo

teach me your ways

[deft stump]

Are you saying you use that?

[mighty delta]

just a casual 879k 16k stagger smite/electro staff game 😭

[tulip kettle]

smite in civi mael

for shame

[lunar rose]

does a fire staff count as a force staff in perk tree? and what is soulblaze?

[dull scroll]

yes, sb is a damage overtime debuff you put on enemies

[tulip kettle]

yes, and soulblaze is the blue fire DoT

[lunar rose]

ty both and i assume i should take heal dome since i always see psykers using it?

50% vent sounds nice tho

but yeah dome seems OP

[dull scroll]

bubble is the safer bet, but if you want unholy damage like a real psyker you yolo shriek 😏

[lunar rose]

i'm mainly just levelling to 30 but i feel like my team would hate me in harder difficulties with no dome😂

[plucky flax]

No shred is better for me

[deft stump]

Ah.

[acoustic jacinth]

Where's the poxbruster, quick, push it towards them

[void perch]

if you're qping/using matchmaking ur gonna be hated no matter what

and i feel like anyone here who is decent enough isnt gonna yell at you for not bubbling

(though bubble op lowk)

what do you mean gunners are the most dangerous enemy in h40?

[deft stump]

Naw, the shooters are.

[void perch]

gunners include shooters to me

gunners just give you a grace period before they rock your shit

[deft stump]

1 of them can break your toughness already. Especially that dreg variant.

And basically down you in that same salvo.

[void perch]

simply dodge

8 dodges or some shit

with 50% dodge distance

[deft stump]

You mean, roll to not be hit.

I play D&D with my ping, lul.

[void perch]

me too

[acoustic jacinth]

Simply dodge is a universally blunt response tbh, but I mean, specific to psyker, EE will keep you quite safe either way

[void perch]

on most games my ping diff isnt that big a deal but

on darktide even if i play perfectly its like 50% chance i am shit on

fatshark servers are kinda dogshit

game DCs me more than release day fallout 4 crashed on ps4 bro

[marble crater]

That's pretty bad

[void perch]

i have 500 up/down on my net

but on my ps5 test its 20

and 8

average

[dull scroll]

wonder how the connections gonna be in 2 more days 🤔

[void perch]

which is enough for me to literally stream the game

[deft stump]

Is around 300-360~ I get ghost hitted all the time. Overheaded by a boss 10m away? Yep. Twice in less than 3 secs? Yep.

[void perch]

yeah

[marble crater]

Now I am curious what I get on my xbox

[void perch]

its frustrating

i've had to learn to play around it

and not get frustrated

darktide's the ONLY game it does that on

well it might do it on verm too but when i played verm i was on a shittier net anyways

helldivers 2 is pretty fast

battlefield

etc

[deft stump]

VT2 is peer2peer. If you host, is fine... if not...

Throw a dice.

[marble crater]

Get the full speed

[deft stump]

Cos it depends on the host connection to yours.

And I used to get no less than 600 if not hosting or playing with bots.

[void perch]

i didnt host

when i played verm i had like

10 up/down

[deft stump]

Speed doesn't matter.

Only ping.

[void perch]

it

[deft stump]

I have 1 gig up/down.

[void perch]

sort of does

speed contributes to ping

as does computing power

[deft stump]

300+ ping to EU anyway.

[void perch]

on most games i get like 100 to other continents

im na east

[acoustic jacinth]

This is so real

pays a shitload for internet
has most online friends in the US as an eastern european

[marble crater]

As someone who knows nothing about this, maybe you need to open some extra ports for Fatshark games

[void perch]

on darktide its easily like 300

nope

[deft stump]

Is more like 400 down 700 up when speedtest though to random EU server in speedtest.

Mbps.

[void perch]

mine sort of depends

sometimes i'll get the 500 up/down sometimes its significantly lower

the only place i get it pretty stable is right next to the router

and its run in an odd location

have debated copping a

100ft ethernet

to run

to it

[deft stump]

I have the cheapest that isn't avaliable anymore.

[void perch]

tis only like $30

[deft stump]

Is 1 gig down/up unlimited.

[tulip kettle]

when levelling, the main thing to focus on is using assail and learning to melee properly. scriers gaze complements assail, gives you the same 50% quell as shriek, and boosts all your damage

[deft stump]

Usually is closer to 800/900.

[tulip kettle]

pretty much focus on the right side of the tree until you are level 30 and more confident in what you can and cant do on psyker

[marble crater]

Why learn to melee properly and use assail and gaze when you can just smite and ignore all that?

[void perch]

server is like ~50 miles away

[marble crater]

Ew

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/critical-bard-cb-critbard-block-blocked-gif-17797062

[void perch]

what if i cant play psyker

🔥

[deft stump]

Not really on PC atm and phone is capped by WIFI max speed.

[void perch]

yeah im paying for 500 symmetrical

well

it's actually a 1 gig plan aswell

but

i guess 1 gig isnt available so not really

[deft stump]

Sounds scammy, but they probably said up to 1 gig.

[void perch]

mhm

its not that scammy

it's actually cheaper

than my last plan

[deft stump]

Hilariously, uploading has gone over 1 gig per sec before if the website allows for it.

[void perch]

which was like 50% more and it was maximum like 20 up/down

oh and there were a bunch of hoops

to play literally anything

because they are dogshit cheap and have that shared thing

so no porting no nat setup etc

this one does have that

[patent steeple]

btw, I might need a reminder on what makes Columnus IAG (aka the hybrid one) so bad...

[void perch]

firerate damage differential

you wanna have high firerate to max your blessings and proc everything faster

[deft stump]

Is best on controller cos accurate and stable.

[void perch]

the stability on all iags is kind of mid

[deft stump]

If you don't need that, Vraks is way better

[void perch]

the others damage kinda suck compared to how much firerate you're not getting

out of it

[patent steeple]

but the range on Vraks is poo, and so is the ammo cap on Agri...

[deft stump]

Yes, but it is the best of the three. I can barely hit things outside of close range on vraks.

[void perch]

well you're not really sniping with an iag anyways

i hope

and if you are then you could just use something different

you aren't proccing anything from sniping anyways really

[deft stump]

When you ping a bomber and nat 1 a mag on it and nobody else shoots it...

[void perch]

assail it

or smite it

[deft stump]

Because 300 ping vraks is like rolling to hit with cleave and power atk.

[tulip kettle]

karien stinky vet main

no magic wizard powers

😄

[deft stump]

Take all the penalties for more damage and hits.

[patent steeple]

like what? reconlas are kinda bad at killing stuff quick, especially the mkXIV, leaving mkVIc as the only decent enough direct damage reconlas, and even then it sucks...

[deft stump]

Not like it matters, I can just play stealth Zealot and forget my stealth button till one of you go down.

[patent steeple]

I want a decent gun that can both do BRRRRTTT-ing and occasional sniping from at least medium-range.

I do use assail, but assail is also bad at one-shotting specials afaik...

[deft stump]

You need to throw like 5-7.

[void perch]

bistol

assail

smite

[void perch]

well it wont 1 tap

[patent steeple]

yeah, and during SG that means I waste the ult's damage buffs super quick, because I hit 100 peril...

[void perch]

but it will lock on to heads

and it'll take 3

for most

[royal totem]

hmmm.......i still can't really get myself to like gunker

[void perch]

afaik

not sure on h40 but on auric grinder it takes 2

with buffs active its prolly less

idk i dont test things extensively yet

[deft stump]

Oh, SG. I was giving my avg without since I run with vent.

[void perch]

quell after getting to like 80

it doesnt cancel sg

and you can still get the damage buff

[deft stump]

Assuming no EP stacks.

[void perch]

if you're near a horde/specials/elites

etc

it's also not like sg activations are few and far between

it's like a 20 second cd with combat regen curios

[royal totem]

it's probs bad to say i have 5.4m dockets saved up for hive scum but i'm still afraid it's not enough

[austere warren]

It's probably fine.

[royal totem]

Now i feel i need 6m

[marble crater]

What if you need 10m?

[lunar rose]

is the best staff inferno?

[wind spruce]

You shouldn't need a fraction of that

[marble crater]

It's the strongest in h40.
Best depends on playstyle and what you want to do I guess

[wind spruce]

It really doesn't take that many dockets to get the dump stat you want and level the weapon up

So as long as you have trash in your inventory to sacrifice for mastery I wouldn't stress

[royal totem]

Oh god. I better play more

[deft stump]

300k-400k. Unless it has weird numbers.

[royal totem]

I have no trash

But sut says i need 10m

[deft stump]

Then uhhh, 10 mil might not be enough.

[royal totem]

So now i panic

[deft stump]

You can just lvl them by playing with them.

[summer prairie]

maybe 3-4m

[deft stump]

Worst case.

[royal totem]

so if i buy like grays

keep the perfect stat

dump the rest

3-4m should be enough you guys think?

[summer prairie]

upgrade the rest to green and sac for mastery

[royal totem]

ok let's hope 100k plasteel is enough

[deft stump]

RIP.

[wind spruce]

Don't stress. At worst you'll have enough to get most of what you want and playing with those weapons will get you the rest of what you need.

[deft stump]

Based on arby... I think I burnt more than that skipping.

[royal totem]

i have to actually play the game?

the horror!

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[deft stump]

Cos you use it to max out one set as well.

[wraith sphinx]

Look at this dork nem over here actually playing the game ha ha

[royal totem]

one set?

[royal totem]

the aspiration is to use dockets to not play the game

[zealous wing]

it will be plenty

[royal totem]

though now that i think about it

if there is a havoc reset, they should be closing down havoc tomorrow right?

[deft stump]

To 500 to use.

[royal totem]

mmmm my plan was to skip all the unique weapons to level 19

and then play them to 20

[deft stump]

Should be. Unless they finally get the message NOBODY likes or wants the resetting of anything.

[royal totem]

i don't like havoc reset

it's just more torture

and like

fake engagement to force you to have to grind to 40

[deft stump]

That is to 500. Last is finish up blessings and hadron's blessings.

[royal totem]

yeah. cuz at 19 yyou already can max the best blessings

[deft stump]

But knowing FS, nobody there will just remove resets.

[deft stump]

Hadron's blessings is the red with checkerboard cosmetic.

[royal totem]

i think obesemegladon is out of touch with their player base

[heavy dagger]

can someone tell me if my melee psyker build is good. is it better if i take screenshots of everything or pictures

[royal totem]

you can't post either here cuz not red

so uhh gameslantern i think

[heavy dagger]

kk

[nocturne wasp]

You playing now Nemui?

[royal totem]

no

about to leave for a movie

[nocturne wasp]

Dope! Enjoy

[royal totem]

i'm taking it easy on DT today and tomorrow cuz come tuesday......

[nocturne wasp]

Haha I'm not off work until next weekend 🙁

But still going to buy Scum on release

[royal totem]

my boss says i can have Tuesday off

so i'm having Tuesday off

[nocturne wasp]

Can't decide if I want the deluxe for the jacket or not

[royal totem]

my boss also said though it's just a day off and not PTO

so i'm not paid for it

my boss is so mean to me 🙁

[nocturne wasp]

I need money to buy a really nice Ebike by spring so I'm nit taming days off

[royal totem]

gives me 0 PTO

[royal totem]

why an ebike by spring?

[nocturne wasp]

1. I want one
2. Rn I walk to work for 50-60 minutes each way. with an ebike, it'll be 20 minutes
3. Winter has just begun where I am so no use for one until then

😍

[royal totem]

fair enough

my knees don't let me bike

i also can't bike to work cuz my commute is random distances

[heavy dagger]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a050f60d-a53b-4b40-8cfc-2181b2d36d22/melee-psyker-meta-2

this is pretty much the build, lmk if i should tweak anything

melee psyker

[royal totem]

hmmmm @zealous wing can probs help you more

to me it looks fairly standard for the most part? but i'm no expert at psyker

[heavy dagger]

hmm ok, thank you

[royal totem]

or maybe hmmm who else..... @strong gulch

[wraith sphinx]

thank the emperor, commisar dukane slipped on a banana peel

[royal totem]

oh. it is closed now already?

[wraith sphinx]

yeah, havoc's closed due to the plague

[modest perch]

yea the heretics called in sick

[nocturne wasp]

Looks a lot like my melee psyker build, but I only know what works for me so take that with a grain of salt

[heavy dagger]

thank you

[royal totem]

there's like a 2 point or so diff from mine but idk if mine is good or anything

[nocturne wasp]

Defo gonna get my last of 5 characters to auric today (vet)

55/100

[royal totem]

I like vet

[heavy dagger]

yo guys that melee build i sent is CRACKED

[royal totem]

I heal arb dogs as vet

[heavy dagger]

is it better to spam assail then pop scrier gaze or spam it in warp unbound

[upbeat kestrel]

in warp unbound

[heavy dagger]

thx

[nocturne wasp]

Do everything in unbound

Be unbound as often as possible

[heavy dagger]

bet

[wraith sphinx]

playing with a havoc forged smyker that rmb smites bursters

[zealous wing]

finally

no longer 119/120

the only one left now is poxbreaker

[wraith sphinx]

based

me too

[wraith sphinx]

[strong gulch]

It looks fine. If you have any trouble with toughness gen, grab another node up top.

If you have any survivability issues, grab a DR node.

If you mod your game, it might be worth running uptime mod to see what you get better value out of between shred and riposte FGS. EE procs riposte, but you can always get something out of shred. Up to you.

The only kinda sus thing is taking bomber resistance on curios, but curios are basically choose your own adventure.

Ripping at the seams

[zinc phoenix]

average vermintide game be like

[nocturne wasp]

With bots sure

Grail knight kuber always gets top monster damage though

[zinc phoenix]

oh no, those are players

[strong gulch]

Took me a moment to figure out what was happening with the arms. Didn't register that it was 2 players.

[zinc phoenix]

champ game, i have an aching back after

[wraith sphinx]

too much rashuns

I've made an EP assail build and holy fuck I forgot how fun this is

[zinc phoenix]

until you run into carapace

[heavy dagger]

thanks bro

[zinc phoenix]

i wish voidstrike was really good at cracking carapace

then ep assail voidstrike could be a fun way to play

[heavy dagger]

bro i just had a 752k damage game and i haven’t played in a week that’s crazy

[wraith sphinx]

nah I'd win

[heavy dagger]

wish i could send a screenshot but idk how to unlock the convict role

[wraith sphinx]

I don't even run kd on this build 😈

[zinc phoenix]

dies of old age trying to kill a crusher pack lmao

[wraith sphinx]

it's called aura bruh...

[heavy dagger]

crushers got aimbot

be hitting me from miles away

[ripe obsidian]

I need to play VT2 again. Maybe buy the Cataclysm dlc

[zinc phoenix]

its on mega sale rn

[heavy dagger]

i bought all the dlc for vt2 for $24 when it was free, i’ll admit it’s harder than darktide lmao. at least for me

[zinc phoenix]

theyre both pretty straightforward

block attacks, click heads

dodge when the funny sound happens

Friendly fire makes Sienna way more fun than psyker

“Plz no burn me mommy sienna”

🔥 🔥 🔥

I occasionally have someone who keeps walking into the fireball rain and then complains about being burned so I start aiming for them 😂

[ripe obsidian]

50% off is decent enough. I mostly didn't get it before because I dislike beastmen

[strong gulch]

Yeah... beastmen are

[verbal thistle]

its funny cause I've yet to see new players

cata being a dlc difficulty

[ripe obsidian]

Look upon the fluffy meow

[fallen apex]

You can definitely just murder your teammates with friendly fire on Vermintide lol

I forget the name but there's one sienna staff I always really liked where you charge up a big fat bolt of fire you hold in your hand kinda like Zeus would hold his bolt of lightning and yeet it

If you throw that into your teammates head by mistake it'll actually do like over a third of their entire health bar lmfao

[deft stump]

If you have ping lag, this is normal really.

[nocturne wasp]

Abofuckinglutely hate shit siennas that join in and do more health damage to me than the hordes

It's a 1st person game If I'm in front of you, you can see me. I can't see you. It's on you to aim.
Bots on the other hand should fucking know better. They're fucking computer programs and everytime I stop to ads they walk in front of me.

[deft stump]

Don't half the Keri do that as well?

Arrows to your head?

Worst ones even hit Bardin?

[nocturne wasp]

No Keri is the only one always in front of me

[deft stump]

Eh?

[nocturne wasp]

Tanking every hit eating every item

[deft stump]

Oh.

[nocturne wasp]

3 miles ahead

I'm just a slayer. I just want to dive patrols and hold a bottleneck Without my teammates running in front of me and letting the horde run up on our asses

But everyone sees that and thinks "not today, Littleman"

[strong gulch]

I am looking. 🥺

[zinc phoenix]

Why? They’re kinda fun

They charge at you but they’re pretty easy to kill

The bow ones I haven’t really noticed

[nocturne wasp]

Minotaurs are fun monsters too

I actually worry when one spawns

[zinc phoenix]

Minos are easy to kite which I appreciate

[strong gulch]

Beast yucky. I haven't heard anyone genuinely like them or call them fun.

The best I've heard is they're ok but janky.

Or they like one particular thing but they otherwise need tweaking.

[nocturne wasp]

You're talking minis?

[strong gulch]

VT2.

The game.

not paint minis

[nocturne wasp]

Oh okay re reading I see what confused me

I've never heard any enemy described as fun so I assumed it was from a perspective of using them.
My b

I think they're fine

Hit boxes can be odd for sure though

Really have to space yourself to be sure you're using the outer edge fo you weapons range for some reason

[ripe obsidian]

Beastmen bore me, mostly

They're not interesting

[nocturne wasp]

[marble crater]

@deft stump I looked at something from Gamesir and now I get tons of videos about the pro controller recommended, if I'm not careful I will buy it soon

[deft stump]

I know. Expensive though.

[nocturne wasp]

Get the Nacon pro controller

[marble crater]

But it's tempting me

[deft stump]

I know. At least you don't have a half dead dodge button to boot.

[marble crater]

Not Xbox certified

[nocturne wasp]

Ah

[deft stump]

That's even more expensive. Unless you are offering to send, out of budget.

Unless you mean something else. Cos it keeps popping up a $350+ controller.

[quiet inlet]

new smyker tech unlocked

[marble crater]

If shipping to Singapore wasn't 20 bucks I would send you my current one after buying the pro

[marble crater]

No, bad smyker

[deft stump]

The Gamesir is already $100 and out of budget.

[nocturne wasp]

Ah

[quiet inlet]

the tech is to throw a shock mine where they are smiting

they stop and move forward (sometimes)

[strong gulch]

I saw it.

[quiet inlet]

kinda like guiding folks with bubble

[zealous wing]

oh ye btw

psyker 12 had the send off

[quiet inlet]

damn, psyker 12 was a flash in the pan

[zealous wing]

clutched a damnation twice in the same mission

good send off

[quiet inlet]

oooh very nice

[daring comet]

Did smyker get reworked?

[hollow crescent]

what playstyle exactly does electro fit?

im tryna use it as a single target staff but eh?

[strong gulch]

not really, they just gen a bit more peril

[marble crater]

Mobile anti elite and special staff

Also shriek spam

[hollow crescent]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[deft stump]

Also bully lone crusher staff.

[hollow crescent]

shriek pairs best with it?

[strong gulch]

It's fast and allows a lot of movement and awareness.

It's best against smaller elites and specials.

[hollow crescent]

what ability for inferno>

[hollow crescent]

gothcu

[strong gulch]

Generally shriek for all left side builds.

[zealous wing]

my fav way to use EK staff (elevator ride for anticipation)

[strong gulch]

left side is staff side

[nocturne wasp]

Shriek with soufire aug

[marble crater]

It's so beautiful

[strong gulch]

but EK can be build for either side

[hollow crescent]

how tffffffffffffffffff do you stay alive so long with 100% peril?

[daring comet]

you spammed left click

[zealous wing]

scriers with warp unbound

[deft stump]

That's the special edition. I just want a Shadow Black.

[strong gulch]

You can build EK to replace a gun or have constant casting with WU (warp unbound)

[zealous wing]

surge surge build

[daring comet]

Aren't all the staffs pretty much the same in terms of left click?

[zealous wing]

lmao

no

EK crit go brr

[strong gulch]

Mostly, but inferno is different and EK has more crit.

[daring comet]

Oh that makes sense

So when do you use the right click on EK?

[zealous wing]

emergency stun/crusher interruption if i dont have a force sword of some kind

[marble crater]

Yeah, but special edition has wireless license for Xbox as well, tempting for 20 bucks more

[strong gulch]

Constantly if you are building for it.

[zealous wing]

ye you have a completely different set up for a surge surge vs RMB ek

surge surge you dump charge rate

[strong gulch]

HOwever, as you play you get a sense of when to do different things.

EK is the more versitile of the bunch.

[marble crater]

Also most fun

[strong gulch]

If you have great uptime on SG (including WU), you might want to still dump WR or maybe quell speed (IDK on that one tbh).

Because you will stil RMB at times and dumped charged rate feels like ass.

dumped charge rate + no flurry is AHHHHH

[zealous wing]

personally i havent had issue yet, but im also fine using BB so maybe im just patient abnormally patient

[deft stump]

I don't play on console so...

[marble crater]

But I do, so

[strong gulch]

I am not patient. The other staff mains are also not patient. lmao

https://tenor.com/view/mymoney-needthat-gif-13598893

[marble crater]

Most of my BB uses are because I want to kill something while walking around a corner

[zealous wing]

roll the clip of you impatiently hyperfocused on the burster while theres a plogryn literally attacking you -

[strong gulch]

ewww pox gas mission

[brazen warren]

bait plogryn attack, push burster, bait next plogryn attack

[raw flax]

still learning psyker but question for the inferno build and in general. Why does it seem like brain burst is the only blitz thats ever ran ?

[zealous wing]

kinetic flayer

most staff builds will run bb for kinetic flayer

scriers gaze builds will use assail tho generally

[marble crater]

Because Brain Burst is the only blitz that gives you a lot of value even without actively using it

[raw flax]

makes sense lol i just noticed that

[white sky]

I love that subnode for BB that applies it to elites on attack

Feels so good

[ripe obsidian]

That is KF

Kinetic Flayer

[white sky]

Ty, I normally forget perk names

[ripe obsidian]

I have an approximate knowledge of most Psyker nodes

[white sky]

Outside ET for vet, cause it's my favorite in the game.

[zinc phoenix]

Correct call tbh

Burster is bigger threat

[strong gulch]

Burster or bust

https://discord.gg/C9DFsmA9

[daring comet]

this class is busted

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-stanleyhudson-rollseyes-eyeroll-whatever-gif-15621601883142464530

[marble crater]

Just dodge

[long osprey]

Guys what is the mod to see the flame staff flames transparent and the burster explosion radius?

[raw flax]

vfx limiter will disable the flames entirely, the other mod i thing is danger zone or something along those lines

[long osprey]

Thanks a lot

[strong gulch]

The Director remembered that.

@tulip kettle

[marble crater]

Plant

[strong gulch]

ye

[royal totem]

i was going to ask if you're playing havoc but i remembered

havoc aint around

oh wait or is it?

idk

i'm not playing the game till tuesday

[strong gulch]

no clue lmao

[royal totem]

huh. still open. but i'm still not playing

too much effort

[teal needle]

I have been sleeping on scrier's staff for way too long. It's busted survivability

"Out of toughness? Press 'r' for about .75 seconds at any time and it'll all come back"

[zinc phoenix]

You realize that if you’re using staff you already have peril and can already take quietude and SG doesn’t have anything to do with that?

[teal needle]

With scrier you're just sitting on 100% peril at all times with some extra quell speed buffs too

[barren field]

Wait til hive scum comes out

They get complete immunity to all attacks xD

[zealous wing]

11897!? the fuck did i do

[strong gulch]

lmao

idk

[quiet inlet]

I think that was the train rn, right?

[strong gulch]

yes

[zealous wing]

i think so

[quiet inlet]

I saw you hit a mega headshot crit on the captain

[zealous wing]

[ripe obsidian]

Without Scrier's, I sit at 60% or higher peril at all times

My poor havoc rank

[verbal thistle]

naur

what I am supposed to play now

[ripe obsidian]

Vermintide 2 Deathwish 3 or whatever it's called

[verbal thistle]

Dutch spice does sound fun

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know the VT2 modded difficulties

What even is the meta there?

[dull scroll]

they just locked havoc

it's over

[verbal thistle]

1 special control, 1 range killer, 1 frontline, 1 frontline dps

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/bed-fear-scared-family-guy-stu-gif-4874171

[verbal thistle]

solo still exists

[ripe obsidian]

Unsurprising. I might try VT2 again and see if DT sliding has rotted my brain

[verbal thistle]

careful playing non cata

game was on sale and free last weekend

probably alot of new players