psyker-class

[zinc phoenix]

So if you just click heads you will often have a bad time

[tulip kettle]

but yes, assail is generally the best blitz when learning and levelling up psyker. Staff gameplay kind of sucks until you are level 30 and have maximum mastery on the staff you are using

[barren field]

isnt carapace just mauler head and crusher + scab rager body

idk about plasma gunners tho

[lament jay]

Oh yeah how do I get staves? Is it basically just an upgrade to your blitz?

[wraith sphinx]

Jesus fuck that clip is just straight up malicious

[zinc phoenix]

Plasma gunner carapace head

[tulip kettle]

no they are a ranged weapon

[deft stump]

No, gun slot.

[tulip kettle]

you unlock them as you level up

[barren field]

good to know those guys dont die with headshots

[lament jay]

Oh cool

[tulip kettle]

but they will be bad until you are level 30 and have mastery level 20 of the specific staff you are using

[lament jay]

I see...

[tulip kettle]

so just stick to guns and swords and throwing little blue bees

and learning the core mechanics of the game

[barren field]

oh yeah since im here the electro staff charged attack what is it good for

[marble crater]

You will unlock Voidblast staff first, but you shouldn't use it you will die

[zinc phoenix]

There are a few other things with a flak head and a nekkid body that is easier to kill. And then bruisers have a squish head and a flak bod

[lament jay]

Kk

[deft stump]

Plasma is ranged mauler.

[tulip kettle]

unfortunately not too much comparatively, but its perfectly fine and viable

its not good vs crushers

[marble crater]

Specials, gunners, getting peril for shriek

[barren field]

ohhh ty

[zinc phoenix]

Zap stick is great for pushing bursters and killing specials and gun stuff but it’s definitely a sidearm staff these days

[barren field]

does it push pox? nice

[zinc phoenix]

IMO they could make zap stick way better by making it quick draw and faster aim and turning it into effectively the revolver of staff

[zinc phoenix]

At low charge it will push, crit or high charge and kaboom

[barren field]

yeap my thoughts exacctly

[dull scroll]

it's damage vs ogryns are mid but EK stuns crushers and open bulwarks, which is huge

[barren field]

revolver staff

[zinc phoenix]

Yep it’s very nice having a pocket bulwark stagger

[barren field]

it staggers bulwark?

[dull scroll]

yes, and opens up the shield

[barren field]

i might use it then

sounds nice for a mostly melee build

[dull scroll]

it also pushes back bursters, just make sure they are not too low on hp or they might explode in your face first 😏

[zinc phoenix]

I have a warp unbound melee build that takes zap stick, it’s a meme but a fun meme

You can also do the traditional zap shriek gaming but it falls off hard in havoc these days

[dull scroll]

ohh I don't know about that..

https://youtu.be/XkI5nby_1Dk

😏

[lament jay]

Yeahhhh, im not gonna watch an hour long video 🤣

[zinc phoenix]

Good play can make anything work, it’s why I’m able to get away with bubble knight in high havoc. It’s not as effective as the top tier stuff tho

[dull scroll]

don't have to, if you just want to copy the build link is in the description

[lament jay]

Gonna take a while before I reach that level lol

[deft stump]

Chaos does it fine. Depends on comp though.

[lament jay]

/skill

[dull scroll]

I mean, that is true, but this thing is not COMPLETELY HORRIBLE like some meme builds

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t see how that disagrees with my statement 😂

[deft stump]

No, just backing up that it's legit.

[dull scroll]

it's just annoying you can't clear chaffs as well compared to inferno, but your ranged damage vs gunners and specials are off the chart

[barren field]

dump stat for zappyt staff?

[zinc phoenix]

That’s why I tried combing it with a melee thing, idea was that you could still get acceptable performance against chaff with fgs gaming but could use zap stick for what it is good at. Downside was losing fire spam, its too trait intensive

[deft stump]

Warp resist.

[barren field]

thanks

ill level it once havoc pays me

[dull scroll]

fgs is troll, that slow speed is not worth it if you aren't using it in a melee focus build. taxe is the best option, very mobile and great for clearing chaffs

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve tried going with a zap shriek bb dd and lots of fire but without warp charges shriek cd is too high for good damage

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, I was trying to do a melee build with pocket zap stick not a zap stick build

Zap stick needs a rework to be a good right side staff imo

Quicker draw, faster charge, less peril, more crit power

It’d kill the trad zap stick peril battery for shriek but make it way more fun as a melee complement

[dull scroll]

despite my real opinion, I will always unconditionally agree in the hope to get buffs 😏

[zinc phoenix]

It’s just kinda lame all staves are really built around left side

[mighty cipher]

Zap stick works great with Gaze? What?

[deft stump]

Zap stick likes crits.

[mighty cipher]

Even BLAZE TRAUMA works great with gaze

[dull scroll]

zap stick and voidstrike should work great, IN THEORY, with gaze, crit and all

[mighty cipher]

Yeah, you know what instantly ups your crit chance by 20%? Gaze.

[dull scroll]

but matter of fact is that synergistic damage is still way far from enough to be good in h40 compared to shrike

tried it multiple times, you could be peak performing but your damage is like half of other class in their meta builds

[zinc phoenix]

For auric it’s fantastic with gaze

[deft stump]

To be fair strike NEEDS a massive buff.

[dull scroll]

for sure, that staff is 100% underpowered right now, no question about it

[zinc phoenix]

Build diversity in havoc is so ass, and what’s worse is that everyone assumes particular meta builds when pugging

[deft stump]

Ek could use a buff as well, but not to that degree.

[summer prairie]

except lmb of course, which is broken good

[zinc phoenix]

I just don’t like left click staff gaming 😂

[deft stump]

I guess I need to add, altfire needs a buff.

[dull scroll]

Ek is the most popular staff for roleplay reasons, I'm sure everybody would appreciate a good buff 😌

[deft stump]

And I'm just walking auras or buffs.

[zinc phoenix]

Zel 😭

I mean I’m fine with zealot being rerolled to a support class but they need to actually make that fun and give some diversity to it

“Press F to watch people have fun”

[deft stump]

No, my arby is the same lmao.

[zinc phoenix]

You aren’t using arby as a stagger engine?

[deft stump]

Not in havoc.

I run EO.

[zinc phoenix]

Interesting, I mostly see people use it to stagger everything with carapace pop and btl

[deft stump]

Dog does stuff, I drop disco and panic.

[zinc phoenix]

Interesting

[deft stump]

Still can gamble stagger but not as good.

[acoustic jacinth]

@barren field by the way now that i'm back. This is by no means necessary but especially if you start using warp unbound SG for staff psyker later, i suggest you have this
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/366

[coral jungle]

Anyone wana help me complete two penances? It’ll spiral into like 4-5 completed at once for me

[deft stump]

It's a more damage support in the, dog latches on boss, bleeds, shocks, brittles and disco amps damage.

[zinc phoenix]

Looks fun, I’ll try it. Not sure I can replicate your particular brand of panicked screaming tho 😂

[deft stump]

I use double shields though and 3x toughness.

CDR, Stam regen, Toughness.

[plucky flax]

Its just karien carry thing dont question her

[deft stump]

I don't carry. You do.

[barren field]

nice

I think ill swap pistol for zap staff

not sure yet

[acoustic jacinth]

You could, but if we're talking about a good build, you'd end up not using EK staff for m2 (zap)

You would fall under M1 EK

Because

EK's m1 has the best scaling

And with SG + DD

You'll have a portable nuke for headshots from afar

M2 is fine but this is not the build for it. You'd have to make a proper staff psyker

[zealous wing]

still need help? (edit to add also what region? im in EU, can reach a little bit to other servers, like NA east or the other direction)

[barren field]

@acoustic jacinth btw why shred instead of riposte?

is this another fatshark description moment

[acoustic jacinth]

4 x 5 = 20% more crit at its peak. Think of it this way; with psyker's crit synergy and your build's finesse bonuses, would you value some more finesse, or the crit to snowball your talents and everything else?

[barren field]

@delicate prairie

[acoustic jacinth]

Oh shit srry

Different blessings i was thinking about...

[coral jungle]

Yes and Na east coast

[acoustic jacinth]

Riposte is crit on dodge right?

[barren field]

friend wanted to try ur build

thats why i pinged

[acoustic jacinth]

Ah nice, hope he likes it

As for riposte vs shred

Its completely up to your preference

[barren field]

yeah its 6 sec thats why im asking

[acoustic jacinth]

Its up to you then

[barren field]

im assuming the chained crit will be gone if i miss an attaack

[zealous wing]

use the code in my name and send me a squad request

[barren field]

so its more volatile

[coral jungle]

Kk

[barren field]

aight ill try the build now

[acoustic jacinth]

I personally don't find myself losing out on its effects, but both are very good

[late yew]

I am thinking between 2 builds for trauma

[acoustic jacinth]

So long as you're taking one

[barren field]

yeah its very hard to miss an attack on high havoc

lol

[acoustic jacinth]

P much

And tbf

[late yew]

Scrier + crit on peril + fire on crits
or
Scrier + brittleness + casting speed

[acoustic jacinth]

SG builds perform better with more enemies anyways

[late yew]

because with scrier no explosion you can benefit quite a lot from casting speed

[coral jungle]

Am i good to dm u?

[late yew]

Especially on havoc

[zealous wing]

you can indeed

[acoustic jacinth]

I'm guessing you're playing voidblast? Well, it's a matter of your liking. Warp flurry and brittleness is lenient towards psyker support more

But i like blazing spirit

And warp nexus more

It's very easy to snowball

[late yew]

i said trauma above
still can't remember which is which
Why would they rename them into identical names...

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah trauma is voidblast

Old names vs new

It's weird

[barren field]

@acoustic jacinth is soulblaze generally bad? I tested on psy and it felt underwhelming

[acoustic jacinth]

Delete this msg before psyker chat kills you btw

[late yew]

why they renamed them at all?

[acoustic jacinth]

No clue man

Fatshark

[late yew]

Your privelege of having balls just expired

[barren field]

lmao

ill leave it there for cbt

free session

[acoustic jacinth]

Jokes aside; soulblaze is psyker's strongest tool and venting shriek builds which capitalize off of it are the strongest

Inferno staff shriek psyker

[barren field]

oh so u just dont recommend it on the melee build

[acoustic jacinth]

Is trivializing the game

Literally

[acoustic jacinth]

Yes precisely

[barren field]

yeah im assuming its great on inferno

[late yew]

Also what do you mean by soulblaze, like general psychic fire effect?

[barren field]

the dot

[acoustic jacinth]

Not exclusively; staff psyker always benefits from shriek

But not meleeker or gunker

[barren field]

im first time psyker rn idk what im on about

[acoustic jacinth]

Which are, nearly the same thing anyways

Its better u started with meleeker

[wraith sphinx]

What did you use to test it and on which difficulty?

[acoustic jacinth]

You're doing something more unique

[barren field]

fgs crit blessing yeah its mb

[acoustic jacinth]

It was likely just on his SG + DD build so it is not going to look all that great

[barren field]

doesnt spread enough

[late yew]

Visible HP is really good mod to figure how things actually work

[haughty star]

Perilous is still very strong on melee/gun

Scriers is the ult

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah PC is one of those talents that's impossible to go wrong with imo

[haughty star]

Perilous tho melts trash mobs and popcorns elites out of packs tho. Its effectiveness only scales up with intensity

[barren field]

yeah i have it on on trash as well on aoe builds

[acoustic jacinth]

PC is a simple way to boost dps everywhere and always good to take but far from as good as it is on proper builds for it due to having a lack of snowball tools

[barren field]

do u think laspistol on it is fine or should i swap it for sth else

[acoustic jacinth]

In his case he's fine

Meta meleeker build so 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic jacinth]

Laspistol is totally fine

You can also bistol

Many meleekers run laspistol

[haughty star]

It literally snowballs itself

[late yew]

laspistol is the best possible gun for psyker, provided you do headshots well

[barren field]

and what do i use it for with assail? id assume assail is better to be used on ranged ext

[late yew]

is not meta is inferno psyker

[barren field]

or is it there just for the mobility swap

[acoustic jacinth]

Ehhh lacking KF, Wildfire and Souldrinker, PC is still good but not that serious to make a large difference

Which is why most meleekers don't bother

[acoustic jacinth]

I mean, for meleeker itself

[late yew]

assail is for hordes or groups of elites

pistol is for elites, and far away elites

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah just groups of elites, and general trash clear when you feel like it

Assail is cheap and simple to use so

[barren field]

elites as in ranged elites?

[acoustic jacinth]

Anything

I like it for ragers

I don't even bother

[late yew]

i don't like it for ragers lol

[acoustic jacinth]

I just kill em with assail

[barren field]

idk if its any good on crushers and maulers

[acoustic jacinth]

No

[late yew]

you use melee for those

[acoustic jacinth]

Assail does nothing against carapace

[barren field]

yeah so anything outside of crusher mauler

aka rotten armour

gotcha

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah you'll feel it out anyways

Psyker takes a lot of practice comparatively to other classes

You have to find your own uh

Flow state

[barren field]

sword combo is push- light heavy light heavy?

for horde

[royal totem]

Ugh im awake now

[acoustic jacinth]

No

[late yew]

eh?

[barren field]

and heavy spam for elites?

[late yew]

nah

[acoustic jacinth]

Heavies you never use for hordes

[late yew]

psyker pretty easy to play

Although i could be saying that because it was my first class

[barren field]

depends on build I mean ranged psyker is more chill def

[acoustic jacinth]

Pugs say different. People blow themselves up literally all the time

Meleeker is different sure cause SG

But new staff psykers?

[late yew]

Well those just don't have functional iq

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[acoustic jacinth]

Well OBVIOUSLY

[barren field]

XD

[acoustic jacinth]

It's just how pugs are

[late yew]

does not take much brain power to look at the % number from time to time

[barren field]

so heavy spam for elites and what for horde? light spam?

light light light heavy seems alright i guess

[acoustic jacinth]

By horde you mean poxwalkers?

Ideally you do the qq cancel combo agent chaos showed you

Simpler

Is push, 3 lights, push, 3 lights

To get the followup horizontal

For mixed hordes you throw in heavies ocasionally at the elites

Simple as

[royal totem]

Err hate to say for most people blowing up is part of learning psyker

And goddamn calling it low iq sounds elitist as fuck

[barren field]

oh yeah that video bugged out for me couldnt see it

[barren field]

so no heavy got it

[royal totem]

Like its pretty whatevs learning and blowing up in nonhavoc. Ppl sometimes even blow up in havoc

[late yew]

😎

[royal totem]

IF anybody is new here ignore Dwarf. Blowing up is normal

[barren field]

so light light cancel light light or 3x light 3x light

[late yew]

(i still blow up sometimes)

[royal totem]

(Blowing up 7 times in havoc in one match not normal)

[acoustic jacinth]

Of course. It's why i say psyker takes more practice

[barren field]

i started dt after being a vm2 cata deed player for a while so id assume blowing up is normal

if its ur first fatshark game

[late yew]

Way easier to avoid blowing up here

[acoustic jacinth]

Funny enough. I just started VT2 last week.

[barren field]

i blew up with the push attack thingie first game til i realised it costs peril

lol

[late yew]

can you actually blow up from that?

[barren field]

r u europe? I can invite u whenever we do cata deeds

otherwise ull have high ping since its peer to peer

[austere warren]

The rules are if you go over 100%, you start the process of self-destruction unless you take anything that changes that.

If it can build peril, you can run the risk of dyint.

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah. I'm from the balkans. I'm nowhere near good enough for cata yet, my focus has been to get my heroes to lvl35 first, just like i did with DT, after that though i plan on taking things seriously yes

My best is my WHC so far

[late yew]

SO what do you get even for reaching high havoc rank?

[barren field]

whc is the best outside of dlc class ingame

mainly cuz dlc classes in vm2 are busted

if u have high skill u can solo anything with whc

[late yew]

Iam not sure a bout that

Like even among Salt's classes zealot is better

[acoustic jacinth]

Title, insignia, armor piece, bunch of plas and diamantine, ordo dockets are whatever not like they matter. I think that is all?

[royal totem]

Yup

[barren field]

@delicate prairie is whc main in vm2 and wants to learn psyker u guys can trade info

[acoustic jacinth]

What is this

[royal totem]

Epeen

[acoustic jacinth]

"Once in a lifetime" ass shit

[barren field]

ive watched him solo cata so yeah hes pretty good

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah i'll help regardless idm

Helps me pass the time because i only play both games solo anyways

I'll have someone to do something with

[barren field]

sent u my friend code in dms

for steam i mean

[acoustic jacinth]

Yep

[royal totem]

I only play when ppl ask me to play

[late yew]

is there any reason to do havoc levels lower than my maximum one?

fuckers

LET MEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN

[royal totem]

Practice cuz if its lower than ur assignment it wont derank you

[cosmic sigil]

Can we have broken aurics hisg with 450 specials and 350 elites as a basis, shit so much more fun than havoc

[late yew]

do people see my assignment or my highest?

[royal totem]

Your highest

Highest cleared

[late yew]

and assigment determines which lev el can you start?

[royal totem]

Yes

[delicate prairie]

don't spread misinformation pls

daddy is daddying too hard

[tulip kettle]

i mean

havoc is not about the rewards

its about auric being boring af and easy

[delicate prairie]

happy they scale this game like that and wish it was the case for vt2 as well

[plucky flax]

Host your own lobby

[tulip kettle]

dont get me wrong i dont think auric is literally easy

its just, once you have played for thousands of hours its not exactly challenging

[delicate prairie]

yup I get you, just want the list of considerations expanded while playing

there is testing mechanical knowledge and testing mechanical optimization when it comes to difficulty levels

[late yew]

havoc teams are so dysfunctional

like how they don't get that revival should always be #1 priority over anything

[royal totem]

Srry i only apply to some Unsanctioned person's lobbies 😏

[plucky flax]

Not me

[royal totem]

@tulip kettle you gonna play ltr?

[delicate prairie]

Yea you would get that if they seem to be measuring the risk and reward aspect properly but sometimes they get zoned out being way too engaged in the difficulty I think

or bystander affect

people do it when a crime is literally being committed so I think it's granted will happen in a game as well

yes it is a crime not to revive you bubuh... those pesky team mates...

[late yew]

also damn stimmed bulwarks are diabolical

[delicate prairie]

they are just excited to see you

[royal totem]

If you down in a bad spot where ressing not worth risk...im letting you die

[delicate prairie]

wanna become a pancake and feel cute? they'll do that!

[late yew]

is there any real reason to take mk3 knife over 6?

[barren field]

r u stuck in havoc 30

thats elo hell

ask someone to get you out

[barren field]

ehh im against hosting myself cuz at least I can tell smn is half decent if he can host high havoc

the amount of 40s ive seen being actual 20 ranks

its almost like fatshark made a bad system for showing ranked stats

XDDDDD

[plucky flax]

Eh I'm just saying to that guy if he don't want to get rejected then host his lobby then he can choose people.

I only self host.

[barren field]

;(((

[barren field]

I was stuck in havoc 30 for 2 weeks it was

until I got tired of waiting 40 mins to join smn and I asked for a carry

I got to 40 soon after I got helped to 37

if ur not the host its hell on earth

as 30 not even 31 will accept you

i only host when my friend is around

as a solo im eh

[royal totem]

I only host when Dom is carrying me

[barren field]

tasty

[royal totem]

All randoms do is derank me

[delicate prairie]

be the random that carry-ranks you

up the grind

[royal totem]

Nope. Im good enough to play. Not to carry

[zealous wing]

took you long enough

[royal totem]

I only carry sub 20s

[deft stump]

Or I'll get rejected for my weird arby build.

[royal totem]

When need high level carry i look for Karien

[royal totem]

Whats weird about ur arb build

[deft stump]

You are playing stealth zealot memes.

[deft stump]

Is not meta.

[dense flume]

Personal preference, isn't it? Forget which is which, but one has better single target heavies, the other has the push poke and one heavy has a little bit of cleave 🤷‍♂️

[deft stump]

Mk3 is pure head backstab. Mk6 is hybird. Mk6 is generally better in most cases.

[dense flume]

Got it. So, I find I'd rather run mk 3 on vet for example, because of slow stam regen. Push stab can really drain you and leave you vulnerable, unless you spend the talent points

I do use mk 6 on psyker and zealot though so that tracks with what you said, at least

[late yew]

why still not take 6

[deft stump]

Vet uses mk6 better though?

[deft stump]

Memes. You go all in.

[late yew]

how so

[royal totem]

your new psyker?

damn. here i thought potato is making new psykers

[marble crater]

Potato making new psykers?

[deft stump]

I think path can explain better tbh. But for me, it's cos unless you like shooting hordes. Your melee is used for it as well. Plus, your stam isn't THAT bad now.

[royal totem]

I need help ltr

[dense flume]

Well damn I'll have to give it another try then.

[prime elk]

i still prefer mk3 on vet

cooler moveset

[cosmic sigil]

feels like the pa and the special + attack are faster on mk3 but I may be wrong

[zealous wing]

upon further playing, voidstike sucks even in malice

thats really sad

like ye its a decent special sniper but... so is assail, and a gun can also do more boss damage

and surge surge is also just, already much stronger than VS

they need to buff or rework VS

(also only inferno stave isnt a good special sniper stave so VS isnt unique in the slightest)

[zealous wing]

also, in terms of melee.... illisi also just big sadness in malice

[spice oar]

Dawg why malice

[zealous wing]

whoever said its a worse FGS is incorrect, i'd say obscurus is closer to FGS, illisi just... also is sadness

because psyker 11 can only do malice rn

[spice oar]

Ohhhh you are new to psyker?

[wraith sphinx]

dawg...?

[marble crater]

Because he is bad

[patent jacinth]

Were gonna kill you

[zealous wing]

yes, very new to psyker, very definitely new

[marble crater]

Not with voidstrike you won't

[lone ravine]

mmm this psyker obviously doesnt know how to play the game,

[spice oar]

Well you said your psyker was 11 so it sounded like you were new duh

[zealous wing]

no its psyker11

[lone ravine]

i saw psyker 10 get sacrificed

[zealous wing]

yeppers

[spice oar]

Why do you have 11 psykers

[wraith sphinx]

that's a hell of a take from someone with so much playtime ngl

[spice oar]

Or had

[zealous wing]

someones gotta feed the emperor

[zealous wing]

its just a really sad stave, idk what else to say

is fun but, sad

[spice oar]

And you’ve came to that conclusion…after 11 psykers???

[zealous wing]

for what it does, i legitimately would rather have VB or bolter

[wraith sphinx]

saying it sucks in malice is just objectively wrong though

I don't know how can effortlessly punching holes through hordes 'suck'

[zealous wing]

because sword is better

[royal totem]

Leave special sniping to vets and arbs

[lone ravine]

if youre using vs for hordeclear

[zealous wing]

my sword also doesnt even have unyielding on it and i had to melee the burgle and plogryn by myself because there was an inferno psyker (and 2 bots)

[zealous wing]

no leave it to me , on whatever class, i have specialists hardwired as priority targets

dom is training me well

its also why i suck at inferno

[royal totem]

Dom hasnt trained me

[marble crater]

What do you need training in? Flaming?

[zealous wing]

yes

[royal totem]

Its why i shoot rot crushers with plasma gun 😏

[marble crater]

@deft stump teach him please

[zealous wing]

i can too you know

[royal totem]

Specials on map not my problem. I just shoot rot armor

[wraith sphinx]

idek what to say vs isn't a top tier staff but this take on it is just horrible

small charge to punch thru hordes big charge to stagger and kill cara it could not be simpler

[zealous wing]

i think most of my training went well because dom took me from "i've played the game about a week or two and struggling in heresy, pls help" to auric maelstrom

[dusk wren]

is this the voidblast

[lone ravine]

voidstrike

the orb

[zealous wing]

no the ball one

[dusk wren]

oh yeah it's shit

small charge to punch through hordes? that barely tickles them

[zealous wing]

it did jack shit on carapace

like 7 charged shots or so

[dusk wren]

it mostly just staggers carapace

at full charge

[patent jacinth]

Not gamebreakingly mechanics ignoringly powerful so its shit and you shouldn't use it

[dusk wren]

uh yeah, it's always relative to the other options

[wraith sphinx]

are you playing with damage dumped vs or something

[zealous wing]

again i would literally take vraks and stab cara with ANY melee

[zealous wing]

no

[dusk wren]

i have no idea what hordes you punch through when to kill any random dude in isolation takes a good bit of charge

[wraith sphinx]

wtf are you aiming for, the poxwalker's legs?

[zealous wing]

like fair i dont have a full talents yet but if it struggles this hard when everything else is doing fine its not worth learning more

ill learn it if they fix it

[dusk wren]

even with headshots you can leave scab gunners alive if it's not charged to like 40% or more

[wraith sphinx]

damn if only you could follow up with quick lmb strikes or something if that happens

[dusk wren]

or if i had a staff that didn't suck

[patent jacinth]

Just because it doesn't have infinite cleave and dot propagation doesn't mean its unusable

[zealous wing]

oh its technically usable

so is devils claw

[patent jacinth]

Not even technically it performs fine

It just doesn't snap the game over its knee like trauma or purg

[dusk wren]

yeah

[zealous wing]

or a gun?

[dusk wren]

it sucks

[wraith sphinx]

nor reward braindead play

[zealous wing]

like a gun?

im just struggling to see how VS is better than a gun

[wraith sphinx]

guns don't have infinite cleave either so they suck sorry

[dusk wren]

well it isn't

[zealous wing]

but they can deal boss damage

[dusk wren]

i mean you can claim voidstrike has infinite cleave all you want but it a tiny radius

[royal totem]

Guns just better

[wraith sphinx]

do you lack reading comprehension or something

[royal totem]

Every other staff better

[wraith sphinx]

where did anyone say vs has infinite cleave

[dusk wren]

i misread

they should just nerf infernus and voidblast

[prime elk]

VS prob needs some help

[dusk wren]

and that

[zealous wing]

VS 100% needs help

[royal totem]

Vs orb so slow i aint gonna use it

Feels bad

[zealous wing]

it also doesnt do shit in havoc

[dusk wren]

you mean to charge or to like

travel

[royal totem]

Travel

Its like a snail

[patent jacinth]

Just lead a little the travel time is comparable to tknives

[royal totem]

But not as cute as a snail

[prime elk]

i like the fact that VS requires some actual skill to use

but the payoff is so not worth it lol

you would think higher skill floor means higher skill celing

[wraith sphinx]

VS could definitely use a bit of tuning up but implying it's unusable is absurd

[royal totem]

Knives actually hurt when they hit

[zealous wing]

anything is usable. it still sucks

[wraith sphinx]

no it doesn't

[royal totem]

Atually. Im removibg myself from this convi

[zealous wing]

then why isnt it in havoc?

all three other staves work there. guns work there. where's VS?

[wraith sphinx]

Why would I care about havoc?

[zealous wing]

what niche does VS fill that nothing else can?

[wraith sphinx]

it fills the niche of the satisfaction of having a gun-like analogue that doesn't have to worry about you queueing up with three arbites, gunlugger ogryns or any combination thereof

[zealous wing]

so EK or VB then?

[royal totem]

im tired of the same few people trying to convince people a staff that the wide psyker community including many good ones consider underpowered and anemic at the moment is good and usable.

Frankly, it's delusional in my opinion.

Yet the argument continues every few days anyways.

[wraith sphinx]

the famously gun-like EK

the notorious VB that shoots in a straight line like guns do

[dusk wren]

The ek is as gunlike as the vs

[zealous wing]

they both do that yes

added bonus of having CC or single target stun, depending which you go with

[dusk wren]

The right click is so bad you end up spamming left click with VS

[wraith sphinx]

I don't recall having to look upwards with a bolter to shoot at a c rusher

[zealous wing]

in fact surge surge is fucking delightful, but that itself is a goofy build and hella fun

[dusk wren]

Whats that

[zealous wing]

so you dont like headshots? weird

[royal totem]

nobody's opinions change because people have played long enough their opinions are basically formed. so it's a pointless argument that nothing is gained from other than being a headache to read

[zealous wing]

fair enough

[wraith sphinx]

buddy this is a 40k server what do you think we do here

[zealous wing]

i just think rem forgot LMB exists on 3/4 staves

[wraith sphinx]

in the grim darkness of the far future there's only arguments

also lmb fucking sucks you can't stagger let alone kill carapace with that

doesn't cleave at all either

[zealous wing]

... then melee? RMB? both can do that... my guy

[dusk wren]

Rgt is so slow and does so little damage that it's just better to melee

[zealous wing]

shouldnt be shooting crushers anyway

[dusk wren]

Yeah

[wraith sphinx]

dude I have a magic staff don't tell me not to shoot stuff

[zealous wing]

with a bolt gun

[summer prairie]

VS is kind of fun to use. Smaller numbers, still fun

[dusk wren]

It's fun

[zealous wing]

we just wish it did shit at least ok as a payoff

[wraith sphinx]

what the fuck else would you use a boltgun for

[dusk wren]

Just a shame it tickles

[wraith sphinx]

are you shooting shooters and stalkers with it

[zealous wing]

boss damage i guess? gun kinda sucks but thats my own qualm

[wraith sphinx]

yeah that's kinda true

that recent boltgun nerf was uncalled for

[dusk wren]

It does bad against any target

The explosion and damage are just too small for hordes

[zealous wing]

watched a zealot try to clutch with a boltgun and they got fucked because of the reload speed a few too many times

even with knives

[wraith sphinx]

when I run boltgun I pretty much exclusively use it vs snipers, faraway rangeds and to thin bigger stacks of cara enemies

[cosmic sigil]

you can't anim cancel le reload with tknives :/

I wish I could

[zealous wing]

oh i was told oyu could, same as flamer

[cosmic sigil]

zealot losing a reload talent is a fucking shame

nah you can cancel the draw part with the tknives

[zealous wing]

big F then

[cosmic sigil]

and you can cancel the reload too at some point with some sprint cancel tech but... honestly...

i never pull it off when i need it the most

[zealous wing]

i think they didnt know that either, i saw then try, that is sad :(

[cosmic sigil]

however you can cancel the last part of the reload with a bash and fire instanly after

[royal totem]

i don't like boltgun on zealot but that's probs personal

[marble crater]

We had our first snowfall earlier

[royal totem]

was it nice?

[cosmic sigil]

I don't remember the exact animation but it's near the end

[marble crater]

Yes, was right when I was on the way back home with my dog and we were already cold, so didn't enjoy it much

[cosmic sigil]

well, it's becoming more and more a boss dmg tool, also a oops crusher wave

[royal totem]

ooof that sounds unfortunate. it never snows here

[royal totem]

yeah it's the only reason to bring it. but i generally bring C shotgun on zealot

[cosmic sigil]

because the ammo efficiency on zealot is kinda bad

and yeah

[zealous wing]

idk why but i feel warmer when its snowing out and cold than if its just, no snow and cold

[marble crater]

Supposed to snow again in a bit, maybe I'm lucky and there is some for the evening walk

[zealous wing]

maybe it picks up my mood and i walk faster

[cosmic sigil]

that's what i am doing, the shotgun draw faster, suppress too and kill the specialist... sooo

[royal totem]

perfect for you to enjoy the cold 😛

[cosmic sigil]

And i can take a stun nade

[acoustic jacinth]

For de emperor

[zealous wing]

oh ye sut

i know you probably dont wanna risk damnation again

[royal totem]

when can SuT take us to damnation again? 😛

[tulip kettle]

anyone happen to know where exactly the bugged ritualist is on warren by the med station?

[marble crater]

I only enjoy the cold when the window is cracked and I'm in bed under the blanket

[tulip kettle]

i thought it was in the broken wall but i couldnt find it and we lost cos of it

[zealous wing]

nemui and i plan to get hivescum pretty early, wondering if you wanna take us to a private auric

[marble crater]

Never, Auric or nothing. I also didn't play in 2 weeks so I need to check if I'm still good first

[zealous wing]

i dont, but they do spawn in a perfectly spaced circle, dont they?

and the green should reach out to the ritualist

idk how the wall might mess with that though imma be honest

[royal totem]

i should probably do at least one uprising on hive scum before auric though

need to figure out some basic things about it

[zealous wing]

honestly, valid but, we ball dont we

[royal totem]

i'm not as good at game as Hexis :3

[zealous wing]

WE BALL

[royal totem]

i have half as many hours in this game as Hexis after all

[zinc phoenix]

Losing doesn’t matter so there is no reason to do easy mode

[zealous wing]

though i did think of something

[zealous wing]

arby could do the normal campaign

hive scum also probably can

[royal totem]

true point

[zealous wing]

so canonically, they joined the same time rejects did

"im sure ive done all this before"

[zinc phoenix]

They implied different campaign for scoomer

[zealous wing]

would be interesting

[royal totem]

@zealous wing are you up for another long time?

[zealous wing]

?

long time?

awake? if so yes

[royal totem]

i kinda want to make a new character and get thrown in damnation or auric

i might be bad though

[cosmic sigil]

if you do a campaign can you chose your difficulty as soon as it's availaible?

[zealous wing]

wdym

youre locked to uprising until you complete 4 missions, if thats what you mean

then, a few after that for malice

[cosmic sigil]

I have never done the campaigns

I don't know how it works

[zealous wing]

also, doing aurics didnt unlock malice faster

i do the campaign a lot, so if you play through it normally (and win each one), you finish uprising with 2nd assassination

[cosmic sigil]

ok

[zealous wing]

its also when you unlock hadron

[zealous wing]

also ye i can drag you to damnation or auric

lmk which class

[burnt hull]

For Malleus Monstrum do Heresy Games always spawn à Monstrosity ? I want to duo it with a friend

[cosmic sigil]

yeah

[zealous wing]

not always but its likely, you can also grab a map with a guarenteed spawn, like dark communion

[cosmic sigil]

I did it like that

[zealous wing]

or the consignment yard is another

[royal totem]

Consignment yard or dark communion

[zealous wing]

lights out also work

guarenteed DHs

[burnt hull]

Ah right

[cosmic sigil]

there's always at least one monstro on heresy guyz

[zealous wing]

pretty much but i try to grab one with guarenteed spawn so theres at least a backup plan if things go sideways for them

[burnt hull]

Ty guys

[zealous wing]

make sure your friend can take out the monster if you die, or you can move around if they die

also dont QP, it overwrites the private setting

still love this torso

vet cosplay draws closer

[royal totem]

i think my vet costume is the best 😛

i think arby number 2 is going bye bye 🙁

[zealous wing]

if you do delete

make sure to sell all the extra weapons

and curios

[white sky]

Yeah, make that money

[zealous wing]

also the fuck is going on

[royal totem]

wtf?

[zealous wing]

my internets been shit since it died like 3 and a half hours ago

could be the FS server but

[spice aurora]

https://youtu.be/T5NAn5-c-G8?si=pPQvpFfjDzIgY0o5

can someone skip to the end and tell me where trapper is, im highly regarded

[zealous wing]

EU being the same as NA East basically is very ABNORMAL

[spice aurora]

OI that sneaky coont

[zealous wing]

i heard her earlier than that too

when you went up the stairwell

but yes, sneaky indeed

[marble crater]

Eww

[zealous wing]

i dont understand

internet speed is fine

so it must be the server... right?

[plucky flax]

I need 1 more game to complete contract if anyone wants a free win.

Either my havoc or yours.

[royal totem]

i want a free win

[tulip kettle]

the confidence of this man

[plucky flax]

Complete mission 7/8

[spice aurora]

i do!

[zealous wing]

ill tag along

dont need havocs complete really but i can be a 4th fill in

fuck party finder

[plucky flax]

Hmm depend on how confident we are at h40.

[zealous wing]

depends how confident my server connection is

[spice aurora]

how i join 😄

[royal totem]

hmmmmm i might be a lil sus but yeah

[plucky flax]

I'll invite.

[spice aurora]

ok i just logged in

[zealous wing]

reminds me i need a rending trauma stave

ill put that on psykermain2

later

[royal totem]

Temu-zealot is an objectively hilarious name

[spice aurora]

thanks

[zealous wing]

sob

[late yew]

no

[solid pond]

so

10

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian you wanna do a H26?

[ripe obsidian]

I am in D&D at the moment

But perhaps later

[marble crater]

Never missing D&D Sunday

[tulip kettle]

you should join sut

actually play the game instead of just lurking discord

[strong gulch]

join

join

join

[marble crater]

rude

[tulip kettle]

prove me wrong

join us

[marble crater]

I wanted to play anyway after 2 weeks, so might as well join the chaos squad I guess

[strong gulch]

We are in VC. Kicking my partner out now.
https://discord.gg/324VxbvM

[tulip kettle]

are you writing the codebase for the game manually?

[marble crater]

No I went to the bathroom

Where was shooting again?

[orchid cypress]

anyone know how to do the cliffhanger penance? (kill 7 enemies in 2 secconds by pushing them off a cliff)

[glacial garnet]

You equip shriek you wait by a ledge for a horde and you press f

[orchid cypress]

i gathered that, but the venting shriek seems to be more of a gentle nudge

[long saddle]

you can also do a quick smite and deactivate so they get flunged back

I think that's what I did, did it on rolling steel

[orchid cypress]

thank you

[strong gulch]

tips in 5th pin

[orchid cypress]

thank you judt got it on dark communion

[late yew]

question about zealot

so the way i see, shroud only still good if you need to clutch revives
otherwise just take fury
am i wrong?

[dusk wren]

wrong

it also nukes bosses

[patent jacinth]

Wrong post buff

[late yew]

So does Fury

fury also gives good mobility and toughness

[patent jacinth]

Its a hilarious amount of damage and has decent uptime now

[dusk wren]

i'm not arguing for how good shroud is, i hate it

but it also does that

also it always had good uptime no?

[late yew]

yes, but fury still better?

because 2 charges

and lnog lasting attack speed buff after using it

[dusk wren]

i mean yeah i would always pick fury over shroud

but people like to run the meme thunder hammer shroud build

[zinc phoenix]

Idk why you’d play zel to not either book or ooga booga one shot boss build

If you just want to swang that thang tauntgryn or stagbie gonna do it better

Furry of the faithful is good but not enough good ig?

[late yew]

what about outside of thammer

[long saddle]

zealot is just very consistent

[zinc phoenix]

Zel mains can correct if they can type through the tears of rage

[long saddle]

as a melee weapons platform

[dusk wren]

i see people running knife/ds with it

[late yew]

always despised book

never played with it

[zinc phoenix]

You can despise but you cannot doubt its overwhelming meta status

It’s the same with flame stick

[long saddle]

eh

[zinc phoenix]

I’d rather eat paint but it is the highest damage psyker option

[long saddle]

it's not as meta as it once was

[zinc phoenix]

Rotted stims tox gas will do that to a mfer

But if you aren’t gonna book I feel like tauntgryn krakvet flame stick and barbie are the way you will go

[late yew]

I can

[late yew]

i actually prefer fire trauma

Does basically same thing, but with better CC

[zinc phoenix]

Based and true but objectively inferior

Also with stagger barbie idk I just don’t value the trauma yeet

Esp because rotted stim crusher seems to shrug it the fuck off

I do not like popping trauma and then the crusher goes “haha syke” and splatters someone

[late yew]

well stimmed enemies ignore everything

[zinc phoenix]

They don’t ignore overwhelming damage tho

[zealous wing]

ty for the games

[royal totem]

ty for the games chaos

[zealous wing]

now let me show you what i was dealing with

gotta edit the clips down so you dont suffer long

[plucky flax]

Weekly contract 7/8 games won

[zealous wing]

:(

im sorry

[plucky flax]

Is okie it's only 1k thingy.

[royal totem]

do you actually even need the melk bucks chaos?

[plucky flax]

I mostly want to farm it for new class curios

Nein

[royal totem]

ahh

[plucky flax]

I already have 300k. Probably will use around 150k for curios with hive scum

[royal totem]

i learned....... a little

[plucky flax]

Was 5.6mils in 42 mins. Maybe if we won I would get close to 6 mils.

[royal totem]

that was bad

just started praying then got netted

nerftrapper plz (i'm joking they're fine. just skill issue)

[zealous wing]

especially look at the end here, this was how you guys moved the whole time, im lucky i kept track of you as much as i managed

you weren't walking around, you were teleporting

[quiet inlet]

the whole team was "nothing personnel, kid"

[zealous wing]

i just wanna know why my internet is so fucking bad rn

this game was on NA e, and it was exactly the same on EU

it was bad enough agent actually ran NA e for us to try

[marble crater]

Sounds like Dom infected you

[zealous wing]

but ye leveling your character might have to wait until i can actually play without getting a headache :p

[plucky flax]

Bruh moment

[zealous wing]

i just dont understand why its only darktide acting like this as well

upload test

nearly instant

[tulip kettle]

happening to me as well hex

[zealous wing]

longer clip upload check

3s

[tulip kettle]

just random lag even in eu

[zealous wing]

this is the first time its been like this for me 😭

and it was shitty like this in NA E too, its not usually this bad there

[marble crater]

I didn't need lag to not play well

[zealous wing]

like it crashes a lot there

but i dont get ping lag that bad

(i crashed twice last match too, 2019 )

if i didnt crash, we probably wouldve had that game, it threw me off so bad i just, didnt care much anymore 😭

[torpid void]

Is this the best tank build for psyker? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00714f1-3bbe-4093-ad91-42b22ab3fd2f/magic-tank

[zealous wing]

its uh

a build that definitely exists

(dont get your builds off the site and definitely dont trust them if no one vouches for them)

check the pinned guide

DD with a stave thats not an EK surge surge build is also a hell of a choice.... CW also a choice

100% a meme build

[quiet inlet]

Deffo. Not sure why they didnt' just call it unchained

[zealous wing]

im just baffled

[dusk wren]

tank build

look inside

it's a melee soulblaze build

[torpid void]

I read through the indices in the pinned guide and I cannot seem to decide on what build to try, I ususally like to play something tanky because I smooth brain and slow at thinking on my feet

[zealous wing]

almost fine

yknow, besides wrong FGS mark, and not putting carapace on it

[zealous wing]

then psyker will be a bit of a struggle but bubbleknight might be your flavour

change bubble for scriers and boom, instant generic gunker to start from

[late yew]

may be it is using BB for crushers?

[torpid void]

which one is bubble knight?

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ebacfec-9eb8-4f84-b139-4e3cca58dcfb/bubble-knight-melee-havoc-40

[torpid void]

Thanks. Why the lasgun and not staff?

[zealous wing]

empathic evasion go brr

and its very ammo efficient

[dusk wren]

you should go full melee psyker instead

[zealous wing]

if you want specific dump stats, collateral on reconlas, and warp res on FGS

(warp res on everything psyker has except under very specific circumstances)

[zealous wing]

also you can do boss damage or you can have a staff, you cant really have both

sword CAN work, but, wont be as safe as a gun, especially if theres a burgle involved

[late yew]

can have boss damage with BB or DS, no?

i actually like BB build

[zealous wing]

with BB, a little bit of slow damage yeah

[late yew]

double shield ult

• EP

[zealous wing]

if you want no actual ability then yeah

[dusk wren]

how about a nice scrier gaze

[zealous wing]

^

scriers actually gives you something useful

wall shields, youre lucky if they even stop the mutie, forget the dogs and trappers

[late yew]

Shields are for ranged enemies

[strong gulch]

Even with EP BB x2 wall there isn't great sustain for bos dps

[zealous wing]

the shield is literally so fuckin short

[late yew]

Counterargument

heds go pop

funne

[zealous wing]

take SG with WU, infinite casting of said BB, take it with EP and boom more head popping with a really quick cooldown

[late yew]

WU?

[zealous wing]

still not super viable but,

Warp Unbound

[late yew]

Actually i should try BB with scrier indeed

[zealous wing]

get you 11.2s of infinite casting

[late yew]

Double shield wall is for quick casting

[zealous wing]

but otherwise they useless

[dusk wren]

also scrier gaze is obviously getting buffed on december 2nd

[late yew]

It does???

[zealous wing]

hopefully smite nerf incoming

[dusk wren]

it basically got buffed every update

[zealous wing]

or, removal, honestly

[late yew]

i hope for falchion buff

[zealous wing]

that too

[late yew]

haters gonna hate 😎

lightning go bzzzz

[dusk wren]

i hope for a smite buff

[zealous wing]

im getting so tired of wanting to practice specific things and suddenly, someone decides they dont wanna play the game at all

[late yew]

Remove all abilities but smite

[zealous wing]

rename BB back to smite, rename smite to "coward bait"

[eager knoll]

Amongla

[zealous wing]

i have the same mindset about smykers as i have with stealth vets/zealots who aggrodump and rush ahead. cowards

but also i want those speedrunners back

they were easier to work around than smite

its killed me less than smite

(0 times, smites killed me once or twice)

unfortunately for me, i have to much hope in people that i still will res them

but if they have the SG EP smite and run it the whole game up in auric, nah blocked and fuck you

[pure plinth]

what could a psyker be doing instead of smiting

yknow, like, killing the big bad enemies

[zealous wing]

literally anything besides turning the game off for everyone the entire map

[pure plinth]

the lack of a competent teammate who could be fighting or doing anything instead of smiting

not to even mention

zealot and maybe vet lose so much due to their on dodge talents not activating

[zealous wing]

hell even psyker has some

[pure plinth]

not to even mention how many weapons rely on that

[pure plinth]

hell even arbites

[zealous wing]

someone i played with was a smyker. . . then they played with me and watched me slaughter the entire map and were like "no i wanna do THAT"

[pure plinth]

smykers when they see someone actually playing the game

[zealous wing]

if they get a chance to see it

usually the only chance is if they die

im getting better at going even further to frontline

they think theyre helping and think they're so very much cool

[pure plinth]

frontlining is actually not that scary

[zealous wing]

"oh wow this pack of 4 crushers is so scary let me hold them still for you oh wait now theres a horde let me keep holding it oh no now youre trapped let me release oh fuck crushers dont knock over on release BYE see you at res"

im salty

[late yew]

as if being a coward shameful smh

[late yew]

But it does not matter if enemies are not attacking anyway

[zealous wing]

B O R I N GGGGGGGGG

[late yew]

Cope 😎

[pure plinth]

it does matter

[zealous wing]

and like that, block and move on, EZ mode

[pure plinth]

for the majority of situations, you should be competent enough to handle threats with no crowd control or your own crowd control

[zealous wing]

theres a smite "debate" in here every day because people refuse to believe they lack skill

[pure plinth]

arbites is so powerful because they can crowd control

and also yknow play the game

[pure plinth]

even when crowd control would be nice, wouldnt a teammate who is competent at basically killing anything be better

[zealous wing]

every class can cc, frozen enemies are more dangerous than dead enemies

even enemies on the ground can get people stuck

its far better if you focus on killing rather than holding things in place

[pure plinth]

basic positioning solves the issue most of the time

loops and backpedaling

[zealous wing]

smite does have its uses, but no one ever uses it properly, instead abusing poorly thought out interactions

permasmyker is a behaviour i expect on uprising or malice, when newbies get their blitz's figured out. . . not in damnation, not in auric, and DEFINITELY not havoc

[dusk wren]

yeah, the optimal way to use is to combine it with scrier for total smite annihilation

[zealous wing]

not even

[dusk wren]

as in

[zealous wing]

its still slow and its still irritating as hell to try to kill the smyker

[dusk wren]

you keep it activated for 30 seconds in a row

[zealous wing]

you say that like its a good thing

[dusk wren]

it is, i could go and get a beer while i hold that

[pure plinth]

24/7 shut the game off cc isnt a good thing for the game

[dusk wren]

it's a good thing for my mood

[zealous wing]

another block, busy night

[dusk wren]

damn, someone is grumpy today

[zealous wing]

if someone sees this as good, they just need to turn off the game for the exact same effect

and an added bonus of not ruining the fun for others

[pure plinth]

i do not think there is an individual blame to be had

but rather a flawed implementation of the game's system

[analog verge]

smite 🥱

[zealous wing]

its a bit of both, but true its poorly thought out interactions being abused by the lazy

[late yew]

people who block others on such shallow reasons have hilariously fragile egoes

[dusk wren]

he can't take a joke, no wonder he is whining about those scawy smykers

[strong gulch]

block who you wanna block

Had a whole lobby of people doinf every ism. Blocked.

[dusk wren]

every what

[zealous wing]

im just finally at the point where im done dealing with people whining about how good smite is in this chat, blocking is the sane option

dom is fuckin right, as usual

every single day is too often

[strong gulch]

ableism
racism
ageism
antisemitism

plus

misogyny
homophpbia
transphbia

they were doing it all

[dusk wren]

amazing

[zealous wing]

fucking what, did they have a bingo card to fill?

[strong gulch]

idk

felt like it

[weary idol]

huh, who?

was this more #zealot-class drama I missed?

[royal totem]

How dafaq do you manage all that in a single lobby

[strong gulch]

Oh no. This was a mourningstar lobby. I chain blocked like 8 people.

[royal totem]

Oh. I thought game lobby

[zealous wing]

O.O

YAY

no longer slideshow at 180

i hope...

no idea how karien rocks 300 relatively fine

though im pretty sure what i had was way more than 180, ainz did mention this tab lies

oh ye i can put the ping mod back in probably, since i figured out it was artificial latency making me trapped in psykanium

[marble crater]

Being used to it and knowing how to play around it probably helps

[royal totem]

So i died to less random shit those attempts which was nice

Id claim improvement but probs blind luck

[marble crater]

You need to believe in yourself

[zealous wing]

it was havoc 40

there IS no blind luck

for one save from death by a mutie moving you away from fire is one thing, but nah you were doing well

[royal totem]

I ate a few overheads

Not sure i like c shot on zealot though

[pure plinth]

how are you using it

what build

[royal totem]

Martyrdom book ds cshot

[pure plinth]

ah

i like the combat shotgun on ij or bp

ij helps it hit breakpoints whilst bp allows crits much easier

[royal totem]

Whats bp

Srry

[pure plinth]

blazing piety

good for manstopper and flechette on the combat shotgun

[royal totem]

Ah got it

I think im a better vet than zel though

I carry low 20s harder on vet

Nobody take that statement out of context plz

All im saying is on certain modifiers as vet under the right conditions i can clutch a low 20

[zealous wing]

ah so thats why you were eating all the ammo

which tbh i shouldnt be using as much as i did

kept shooting more than i needed because "that things not dea- oh now it is, thanks ping"

[wind spruce]

Zealot seems like it'd be a harder carry class than vet

Unless you're flamering every big pack

[fiery stratus]

Yeah Id say, mine normally says 20-30ms too, but in reality its more like 70 in game, with spikes of 130-150 every now and then for good measure. Good servers, only the finest

[pure plinth]

vet seems so competent that they perform at 90% of zealot's usual maximum melee power level but also have other options such as plasma

kraks or shredders

voice of command

[fiery stratus]

vets overtuned atm

zealot is one of the weakest classes

but vets up there with psyker for overtuned

[quartz barn]

even in terms of damage vet is able to keep up, not just haha free ammo + toughness

[royal totem]

Actually i was playing the game "is hexis gonna pick it up? No? Guess ill take it"

[royal totem]

Its not that. Im just too cowardly to be a good zealot

[prime elk]

nah nowhere near it

[fiery stratus]

I just gotta accept death in this game, trial and error is big and trial by fire is how i got to where i am

[prime elk]

vet is good, but doesn't have the tankiness of zealot or psyker

[fiery stratus]

yes vet is keeping up with psyker

[prime elk]

vet has traded places with psyker and has become the glass cannon

psyker's been upgraded from glass cannon to just plain cannon

[fiery stratus]

zealot is at the bottom of the list in power balance atm

[royal totem]

holy crap why is arb chat so cancer today

SMH one of the only two chat channels i visit 😭

[quiet inlet]

daylight savings time owes me 1300 melk points 😡

[royal totem]

oh no 🙁

[quiet inlet]

I didn't even really want or need them, the point here is that daylight savings time is fucking stupid and needs to stop

[sturdy reef]

Nah martyrdom goes hard

[royal totem]

@quiet inlet you playing tonight?

[quiet inlet]

yeah, I can do a couple. need just a few minutes

[royal totem]

ai ght

[zealous wing]

just ran a heresy on psyker since its been a while since ive run my main load out and god it was SO CHILL

also the ping was so nice

[royal totem]

lmaoooo

[zealous wing]

couldnt dodge muties worth a damn but hey its heresy so it doesnt actually matter

(music almost on max)

[royal totem]

i know like you and dom listen to music while playing

but i could never

personally

[zealous wing]

you will

[royal totem]

not flaming.

[zealous wing]

one day