Think there's been some chanes to controller, but idk.
#psyker-class
strong gulch
plucky flax
Especially around havoc eu crowd.
deft stump
True.
plucky flax
They know a serial cheater.
deft stump
You mean, serial carry.
plucky flax
This ogryn was holding shield special and just stood there.
Then he went down to 1 lone scab bruiser somehow.
sturdy reef
f
quiet inlet
musta hit him from behind the shield
plucky flax
Even when a captain shield was down he was still holding block rather than hitting the cap.
I was like 'wtf why don't you just hit it' in voice chat in disbelief.
quiet inlet
can't be too careful
strong gulch
Servers are being terrible.
plucky flax
I block people for flaming me in voice chat but they played like shit themselves and did less damage/died by themselves miles away. If you're going to play like that then don't flame then I wouldn't block.
That and ragequitters in havoc.
eager knoll
it's not just me right
visual prism
spent 30 mins on a mission and it ddnt count cuz of servers 😭
eager knoll
dogs got buffed movement
plucky flax
They can flame me if they play better and that's fair. Play worse but flame is kinda sus.
eager knoll
they spend less time "thinking" between moevs
plucky flax
Only Karien can flame me whenever she wants.
eager knoll
they feel much more natural
and their hitbox feels more accurate to the model size
i used to hit dogs without seeing them which was annoying
now u need to think about them more
too doglike tbh i hate it
strong gulch
Or you hit them and they don't care.
eager knoll
i liked when i could murder dogs without modeling a dog in myhead
they used to hav a planet sized cube hitbox or something
now u have to look them in the eyes when u send them to their maker
modest perch
wtf are you talking about
eager knoll
emotional damage
modest perch
their hitbox has been like one pixel for years
modest perch
eager knoll
i think it's cause the hitbox lagged far behind the dog when it passed you so you had a wider window to hit it
modest perch
yea hitting it with the kickback for 1398 dmg cus fatshart doesnt know shit about weapon balance
eager knoll
felt like this when they'd fly past
royal totem
I block people for flaming me in voice chat but they played like shit themselves...
So you block tox flamers
sturdy reef
Id rather fight tox flamers than scab flamers
plucky flax
So you block tox flamers
Tru
sturdy reef
scab flamers are little shitters in havoc
royal totem
Agent only likes the scab roasties
tulip kettle
but agent hasnt blocked me
sturdy reef
bombers are by far the worst tho
tulip kettle
at least, i dont think so 🤔
sturdy reef
and ghost nets
royal totem
but agent hasnt blocked me
Afaik you dont actually flame ppl
tulip kettle
slander
i flame everyone im a terrible human being who has only mean things to say 😠
strong gulch
Dom doesn't flame people, he explodes them.
tulip kettle
👼
royal totem
Flame me and i hit poxwalkers at rear
random loom
who wanna do h40
Im down
royal totem
@tulip kettle i forgot. Did u hit 40?
strong gulch
Yes
tulip kettle
ye ive been 40 a while now
i had a lil hissy fit in here then went and won like 8 games in a row the day after lol
royal totem
Lmao
quiet inlet
this is a fun message to get while sitting on the morningstar
I don't know what mission they mean, but I hope it wasn't important
royal totem
@tulip kettle i need the dom help sometime
quiet inlet
youcan see in the background, I'm picking talents. does that mean all my talents are aborted?
tulip kettle
<@453628860567650304> i need the dom help sometime
ill be playing for the next "few" hours but just started a game
languid furnace
👼
Finally got a chance to try out that EK staff build you sent me the other day, it’s absolutely fantastic!! Thanks so much!!
tulip kettle
is funny
languid furnace
Finally got a chance to try out that EK staff build you sent me the other day, i...
@modest patrol you must try this built out sometime btw. SO GOOD
modest patrol
<@737010098030903417> you must try this built out sometime btw. SO GOOD
Does this mean I get the PC for a round soon? 
tulip kettle
languid furnace
Does this mean I get the PC for a round soon? <a:kekw:1068131243683762256>
You can have it now if you want!!
modest patrol
You can have it now if you want!!
I must take my drugs first
royal totem
Im gonna follow the philosophy of stacking the deck in my favor
deft stump
Im gonna follow the philosophy of stacking the deck in my favor
Ask Syllo and Chaos.
zealous wing
i wonder if hive scum is supposed to be the new "actual" glass cannon class
zealous wing
psykers are pretty fragile at the start, but you CAN make yourself really tanky now, and they mention scum being fragile, so i do wonder
i honestly hope its fragile, vet is fragile but comparatively slow, zealot is similar, maybe thats why i dont like them for the releveling process
deft stump
i wonder if hive scum is supposed to be the new "actual" glass cannon class
Just what happens after you constantly OD.
zealous wing
poor soul
royal totem
Oof
pine shore
strong gulch
Stimmed rot in the dark with DHs peppered all over the place.
late yew
well yeah, i did it
strong gulch
@royal totem @tulip kettle are havocs happening?
quiet inlet
I'd be down for some havoc pain
late yew
there is disturbing lack of anti crusher power every havoc party i joined so far
quiet inlet
send out the bat-ogryn signal
zealous wing
im down to try h40 again today if a slot opens up, cant right now
quiet inlet
But tell me, what do you think of hive scum?
late yew
i forgot renaming is a thing
tulip kettle
yeah ill do havoc now
strong gulch
kk. Ninja is in a mission rn. About 1/3 of the way through.
No response from Nem.
Gonna feed the cats then load in.
royal totem
I just woke up
The karking alarm
Oh guess im not needed
activates sleep mode again
zealous wing
i now own all the psyker free cosmetics
white sky
i now own all the psyker free cosmetics
Congrats
royal totem
ok i'm on
quiet inlet
potato is on the way
strong gulch
analog agate
Oh so it isn’t a new map coming. Just a 5 min mission. Sad days
late yew
damn, in high havoc peril generates faster?
that's kinda dumb
first, it is annoying
second, it actually makes psyker stronger lol
late yew
hard to get used to "no grace period"
i wish it did not exist in the first place
So you actually would have reason to suppress enemies
patent jacinth
Why would shooters being less dangerous incentivize suppression
dull scroll
peril generating faster is not necessarily a bad thing 😌
late yew
Why would shooters being less dangerous incentivize suppression
????
I said i wish grace period did not exist
in the first place
like it was from the start same way it is in havoc
late yew
peril generating faster is not necessarily a bad thing 😌
no one even assumed it was
dull scroll
no one even assumed it was
no one assumed anyone assumed it was
ripe obsidian
I think the work Pygex did should be lauded. Builds that work for one person might not for another.
late yew
no one assumed anyone assumed it was
no one assumed anyone assumed anyone assumed it was
dull scroll
no one assumed anyone assumed anyone assumed it was
Good.
wind spruce
I think the work Pygex did should be lauded. Builds that work for one person mig...
The work on mechanics should be lauded.
Battery Gunner will never be anything but ridiculous.
strong gulch
Before the first tree rework (patch 13ish), the builds were ok. Then they got updated to something sus.
But definitely the mechanics section is still worth referring too.
late yew
so what do you even get for tanking in havoc
ripe obsidian
The work on mechanics should be lauded.
I don't even know what that is
Battery gunner
wind spruce
Battery gunner
One of the builds.
Agent used to say to newbies to check out the atheneum but avoid the builds
late yew
Are high havoc missions with pox gas even possible
weary idol
Are high havoc missions with pox gas even possible
technically but they're so boring and awful that I usually just don't bother
strong gulch
@royal totem @tulip kettle @quiet inlet @zealous wing The Director remembered that
marble crater
The hell is that Arby name 
quiet inlet
The hell is that Arby name <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
somehing something LLEEEXXXXX Something something
dull scroll
best arby name I've seen in lobby was "Sesbian Lex" 😏
royal totem
ty for the games @zealous wing @tulip kettle @quiet inlet
royal totem
4 to go
quiet inlet
Great times, I'll be back in bit!
strong gulch
@hidden shard Reload and quell are the same button. Shriek and scier's gaze can quell too.
strong gulch
@tulip kettle
acoustic jacinth
is shriek DD outperforming shriek siphon voidstrike?
dull scroll
is shriek DD outperforming shriek siphon voidstrike?
if we talking about h40 not by a long shot
shriek'ing more with siphon is king
trail jewel
Need one more for Havoc Lvl 18, anyone wanna join?
coral jungle
Anyone wana help me complete the warp battery penance?
acoustic jacinth
hmm
flurry seems more
less cancer to run on this staff
like EK m2
what do i pair it with though
surge or nexus?
surge does have the double bowling balls.
maybe, i run surge and +5% crit to try and make up for the loss of crit
27.5% crit at its peak
ehh
royal totem
oh. now that i think about it i'm at my season high for havoc again
strong gulch
like EK m2
EK m2 is flak + maniac / unyielding and nexus + flurry
run that in a shriek build
details in pins
strong gulch
that's VS not EK
acoustic jacinth
oh i misread lol
im talking about VS
i was using EK as comparison there
read full line of msg
acoustic jacinth
i mean in the sense of slow charge
i wouldnt run m2 ek without flurry
and tbh i wouldnt in this either
nexus + surge was good
but god awful charge regardless
so i'm thinking what to kick out for flurry
nexus or surge
long wharf
has any more info about the next class been put out?
royal totem
yesterday personalities got put out
royal totem
then no
coral jungle
Some psykers have very unique name tastes, such as “NurglesPoxGobbler”
mighty cipher
Does the Relentless strikes strength affect soulblaze stacks on the Dueling swords?
fiery stratus
long wharf
that is one patient cat
tulip kettle
"what do you think of the hive scum class? also heres a 5 minute rant on my opinion. bye!"
strong gulch
"I don't even care about the DLC class."
royal totem
"what do you think of the hive scum class? also heres a 5 minute rant on my opin...
wait wat?
zealous wing
not even the first person to do this in strike party 😭
royal totem
did you guys get to 30+? lol
zealous wing
plus the one learning the game, staff mastery on 2, "dont wait for me" (our team is full)
like y'all are more than welcome to come chill, have actual conversation (not during intense combat), and watch us play, but, cmon 😭
strong gulch
The person saying they can't look at the stream because they are in a game then just leaves when we say that we can't look at theirs because we were doing havocs.
royal totem
lmao
zealous wing
the main character syndrome hits hard
strong gulch
I even @ them here with info that they could look at on their own time.
royal totem
i need to win 5 more havocs this season
zealous wing
like the guy a day or so ago who joined and ranted about not even playing the game, asking about hive scum and our opinions, then when there was silence after "is anyone still listening?" "guess not, bye"
i dont understAND
royal totem
i don't get it either
strong gulch
me neither
They make me feel like a social savant.
Flash back the vaccine people asking me my age and I have an anxiety meltdown and also struggle to understand what they say. I just give up when I ask them to repeat themselves a 3rd time and I still don't understand.
strong gulch
Been there. Confusion buddies.
royal totem
then they look at me like i'm really stupid and just go "nevermind" and walk away
its ok. i've accepted it's just a fact of life
i keep forgetting this monitor has a few dead pixels lol
zealous wing
its bad enough when its an accent im familiar with trying to understand, but if someone has a different/unfamiliar accent, anxiety goes through the roof and understanding goes out the window 😭
mighty cipher
Does the Relentless strikes strength affect soulblaze stacks on the Dueling swor...
Anyone have an answer to this?
zealous wing
what do you mean by soulblaze stacks on the dueling sword
mighty cipher
Does it have an effect on soulblaze in the same way that Uncanny does?
royal totem
its bad enough when its an accent im familiar with trying to understand, but if ...
I CAN RELATE
actually though
if i have to talk to somebody i either dislike or don't know
my anxiety goes through the roof
like asking for help at stores is a nightmare
zealous wing
Does it have an effect on soulblaze in the same way that Uncanny does?
@ripe obsidian does this work with inferno soulblaze stacks similarly to uncanny on force weaponry?
mighty cipher
Yes, that is the question. Apologies if I fucked up the question.
zealous wing
i doubt it'd be worth it, even if it does
royal totem
@verbal thistle any chance you would know the question slightly above?
mighty cipher
i doubt it'd be worth it, even if it does
Isn’t blaze away practically THE reason inferno is so comically strong at the moment?
zealous wing
Isn’t blaze away practically THE reason inferno is so comically strong at the mo...
this is why uncanny
and besides, as inferno psyker you want to melee as little as possible, only when necessary
uncanny lets you push things away, do more damage as you push, and make distance, DS cant do that
royal totem
you mean force sword lets you
strong gulch
Anyone have an answer to this?
It should other strength blessings do. Easy to test in the meatgrinder.
zealous wing
well force swords let you push, all weapons do. uncanny makes you do more damage
strong gulch
Push vs Push Attack
zealous wing
force sword push is always a headshot
royal totem
yes. you can get uncanny on DS too but DS push isn't nearly as good etc
zealous wing
fine yes push attack
strong gulch
Force sword PA always hits weakspots from up to 9m away. So uncanny can be stacked from a safe distance away.
royal totem
either way point being relentless strikes probs not that good
strong gulch
Also, strength + uncanny both buff SB DoT significantly.
brazen warren
stack armor pen that applies to your soulburn dot to melt dudes
mighty cipher
THAT KNOCKS OVER CRUSHERS?
brazen warren
as your stave cant do that on its own
mighty cipher
SINCE WHEN?
strong gulch
Forever.
brazen warren
I think its only the deimos that has that push strength
my obscurus doesnt knock them over
strong gulch
I think its only the deimos that has that push strength
All force melees.
zealous wing
deimos heavy stab knocks crushers over, force sword push attacks all stagger
including FGS
mighty cipher
Oh my god
austere warren
That extra push also makes it safer to toss bursters
strong gulch
SINCE WHEN?
Forever. DoT have historically taken on actives buffs. They don't snapshot tho.
mighty cipher
Forever. DoT have historically taken on actives buffs. They don't snapshot tho.
I meant the force knock down being that strong
brazen warren
it could also be an interaction with the soulburn stagger itself too
heavy dagger
what’s better, force greatsword with inferno staff or dueling sword? i’m struggling with crowd control with dueling sword
brazen warren
counter crusher tactics are more and more needed now than ever
austere warren
Deimos H2, the thrust on headshot is the knockdown
strong gulch
I think the force melee PA has also been like that forever. If not, then it['s been years.
royal totem
srry i don't have kraks i only throw smoke
zealous wing
what’s better, force greatsword with inferno staff or dueling sword? i’m struggl...
inferno is the crowd control, you want a single target like deimos, or multi-use like obscurus most likely
verbal thistle
<@665740726474375168> any chance you would know the question slightly above?
not sure
royal totem
ty for answering
zealous wing
what’s better, force greatsword with inferno staff or dueling sword? i’m struggl...
basically, as inferno, your main weapon is NOT your melee
mighty cipher
I have had my eyes opened. This is incredibly useful information
zealous wing
same with most stave builds
royal totem
Inferno is to burn up all the mobs
dueling sword is for poking crushers and such
is the simple explanation
zealous wing
what’s better, force greatsword with inferno staff or dueling sword? i’m struggl...
literally cant beat this with melee options
strong gulch
what’s better, force greatsword with inferno staff or dueling sword? i’m struggl...
FGS is good with anything because the weapon is good at everything.
However, if you want to minmax, DS, Deimos, Obscurus, knife are better choices.
For CC, whip side to side while casting inferno M2 / RMB or stagger with M1 / LMB.
solid pond
the 1H force swords are exceptional at making the bigger things not a problem, and kill most other things pretty quick
mighty cipher
So what are the recommended blessing for the utility force swords?
zealous wing
uncanny, then preference
mighty cipher
Deflector uncanny?
royal totem
deflector works
zealous wing
tis what i use, ye
royal totem
it's a comfort level thing
solid pond
I prefer Deimos over obscurus but they do same shit, plus you get to use uncanny/superiority for inferno minmaxing
zealous wing
its a handy backpocket tool
royal totem
some people find it unnecessary to have deflector but there's nothing wrong with it either
zealous wing
I prefer Deimos over obscurus but they do same shit, plus you get to use uncanny...
well deimos knocks things on their ass, obscurus doesnt
solid pond
superiority/uncanny if you want carapace hordes to die, deflector uncanny if you feel like you need the protection
solid pond
well deimos knocks things on their ass, obscurus doesnt
deimos W
zealous wing
obscurus can hordeclear semi-ok, deimos cant to save its life
royal totem
i wish i was a better psyker but that's not gonna happen
mighty cipher
obscurus can hordeclear semi-ok, deimos cant to save its life
Deimos is literally just H2, the weapon
solid pond
l1 h2
mighty cipher
Or Macro L1 spam
royal totem
if I need to hordeclear with melee while i have an inferno
you solo demonhosts though
solid pond
thats vet
zealous wing
if I need to hordeclear with melee while i have an inferno
only case this is a thing is if shriek is on cooldown and your peril is maxxed, but thats not for long enough to bring a hordeclear weapon instead of just pushing until you can shriek/inferno more
mighty cipher
I’m putting blazing spirit on my force sword because I can and it’s thematic
sturdy reef
l1 macro deimos is icky
solid pond
just quell
zealous wing
LMAO no you poor soul
solid pond
lol
sturdy reef
and pretty cringe
zealous wing
dont blazing spirit on melee
mighty cipher
I can and I will
zealous wing
I can and I will
it will almost NEVER proc bro
zealous wing
like it WHY it does NOTHING 
royal totem
i mean as long as you're doing nonhavoc it's whatever
ripe obsidian
<@230796342165897226> does this work with inferno soulblaze stacks similarly to ...
I will find out
solid pond
<@230796342165897226> does this work with inferno soulblaze stacks similarly to ...
yeah, should, doesn't say melee strength
mighty cipher
like it WHY it does NOTHING <a:kekw:1255248850608717969>
It’s cool with bloodthirsty and that’s good enough for me.
mighty cipher
I can have a little in-optimal building. As a treat.
ripe obsidian
solid pond
mighty cipher
It’s my melee weapon on an inferno setup. It’s fine.
ripe obsidian
Versus Superiority, for reference
zealous wing
I can have a little in-optimal building. As a treat.
a "little" is an understatement. its a dead blessing, you are running a weapon with one blessing functionally
solid pond
yeah superiority my goat
barely less power than blaze away but uncanny stacks at the same time
ripe obsidian
Yes. You converted me to the church of superiority
solid pond
yes
ripe obsidian
As for Blazing Spirit on Force Swords: it's bad, but play whatever you want. Fun > optimization.
solid pond
nothing gonna compete with doing 80k to a boss with no stim
royal totem
how do you deal with specials and such and do you feel any ammo inefficiency problems?
royal totem
obviously my question is more how you find the ammo inefficiency
prime elk
it's not that bad
solid pond
and no on ammo effeciency, just shoot what you need to shoot
prime elk
if you're not using it on full auto
solid pond
its got alot of ammo, there is a reason they nerfed it
only thing im full autoing is bosses
royal totem
as long as i'm using ADS it's not full auto-ing right?
solid pond
no need to shoot crushers, dont really shoot maulers, specials and the lower level elites plus alot of ranged dudes
pretty much what I shoot
ripe obsidian
Yeah, in addition to the code, I tested in-game: relentless strikes does not improve anything beyond melee
solid pond
as long as i'm using ADS it's not full auto-ing right?
if you click in hip fire it will fire 2 rounds, you can take advantage of that
strong gulch
Yeah, in addition to the code, I tested in-game: relentless strikes does not imp...
Thanks!
royal totem
i know one person who shoots crushers a lot but i don't want to discuss that
royal totem
cuz why not <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
3 shot? with what build?
prime elk
3 shot? with what build?
heavy left side with MMF and surgical as you'd prob expect
and deadshot lol
can get it down to a reliable 3-shot
but it's a bit of a meme build
royal totem
any chance you'd share it with me? i want to try this out lmao
(and i do have to do my MMF penance
it's thanks to a great effort on lots of people's part that i've been carried all the way to havoc 27
strong gulch
You've been doing your job well tho.
royal totem
this is absolutely not a build for havoc lol
hi'm not dooing my MMF penance in havoc
strong gulch
Even if you haven't been doing big PP damage. You take out the needed threats.
prime elk
ah for penance
solid pond
mine is though
royal totem
Even if you haven't been doing big PP damage. You take out the needed threats.
i only shoot specials ._.
royal totem
mine is though
i used to have your build i might have accidentally deleted it
solid pond
royal totem
which makes me very sadge
austere warren
i only shoot specials ._.
That's critically important.
You gotta not allow yourself to shit on yourself because you aren't qhere you want to be yet.
royal totem
i want to play more silly bolter go brrrrrrrrr build
austere warren
Cleaning up vip threats fast enough that they aren't a problem to begin with is huge in the long run during a mission.
royal totem
if i can't top damage charts. i'll top specials killed
solid pond
i used to have your build i might have accidentally deleted it
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0074812-c02a-4fc5-ba59-0d211b821a8e/updated-unga
I do use weakspot damage on bolter now instead of Flak
austere warren
Just ignore damage charts and focus on playing well in general. The rest will come with repetition.
solid pond
most of the time, if I know there will be DH or I do not need to bring smokes
OR its rotten
I will bring Kraks
but dont need them for boss killing
strong gulch
Get highest environmental damage.
solid pond
only want the burst for DH because they kill fast
prime elk
don't take weakspot damage as a perk on any weapon, ever
solid pond
daemonhost
royal totem
i'm not that confident lmao
solid pond
kraks get great value in rotten though, so if you're looking for an excuse to use them
smokes are just generally really good
royal totem
i'm a bit split. it's good value but like sometimes it's gunners that make the map hell anyway 🙁
zealous wing
time to level psyker 11 in uprising after havocs. gonna be weird
solid pond
i'm a bit split. it's good value but like sometimes it's gunners that make...
just
shoot head
royal totem
head too small. heretics need mutations that make head larger keke
solid pond
cranial
heavy dagger
anyone have a good inferno staff build
solid pond
no
royal totem
anyone have a good inferno staff build
in the pins there's a few
heavy dagger
thx
prime elk
hi'm not dooing my MMF penance in havoc
royal totem
thank you :3
prime elk
it's a meme build, don't say i didn't warn you 
zealous wing
running simulator?
pretty much was
all of power matrix
and since it was QP im sure most of it was from before i joined this lone guy, probably lingering a lot
zealous wing
very much a "where the hell are all the enemies? that couldnt have been the whole ambush horde"
ripe obsidian
Anyone wanna do some low- or non-havoc missions? I am too tired for harder stuff, but I want to turn off my brain and hit zombies
zealous wing
im down
ripe obsidian
You can pick the mission. I have no brain. I am the dumb.
ripe obsidian
Hexis is already down. You can be left.
royal totem
ok i'll be left
solid pond
Anyone wanna do some low- or non-havoc missions? I am too tired for harder stuff...
full?
ripe obsidian
We have one more spot
royal totem
wtf hexis is already 15?
solid pond
ill launch
royal totem
how does hexis do this?
quiet inlet
We have one more spot
Still a spot open?
ripe obsidian
Catmiral was taking the 4th slot
zealous wing
oh
zealous wing
also lvl 15 because auric HISTG but also a break for havocs earlier
royal totem
and i'm playing my fav mission on damnation so today is a good day
@prime elk your build is super lols
prime elk
lol how so
royal totem
in damnation i 1 shot so many things cuz of it
prime elk
oh yeah well that's just general MMF-based builds
and also very high crit chance because bolter gets the better surgical
royal totem
better surgical?
solid pond
prime elk
better surgical?
yeah there are two versions of surgical, one that stacks faster, one that stacks slower
bolter has access to the faster version
royal totem
huh. didn't know that
solid pond
@royal totem can take my spot, I think thats enough 300 ping gaming for me
ripe obsidian
I am too tired to keep going
fiery stratus
kickback tightens its spread when you crouch, so it makes it even better too
royal totem
Wait what???
fiery stratus
yep
If you crouch while adsing its basically a sniper, its minimum pellet count is like 2-3, so as long as you're a little bit on target it hits
has big drop off damage at distance, gotta shoot snipers a couple times sometimes, but it still works super well
ocean cipher
what do u want on Deimos / Obscurus BFS
Deflector + ?
im guessing deflector + slaughterer?
or slaughterer + unstable power
strong gulch
Unyielding + cara / maniac (depends on what you're taking it for)
Uncanny + defelctor / superiority
If it's main weapon
can be uncanny + slaughter
ocean cipher
awesome ty
see honestly i'm probably gonna never use FS as a main weapon cuz FGS exists
zealous wing
im experimenting with meleeker using obscurus, its not going well
its funny that FGS works, taxe works, knife works, and obscurus just, exists kinda meh
high rain
Is there any actual great sword meeler build that won't make me go down if I miss a dodge?
Or there isn't such thing
high rain
facetank one crusher overhead if youre at max
Just a dream caps at how much?
zealous wing
97%
high rain
Splendid
Honestly hear me out, there should be a talent that turns peril into stamina drain, like I stead of generating peril you consume stamina before generating peril
zealous wing
oh like kinetic deflection?
high rain
Like that one veteran taken that gives critical on alt fire
strong gulch
I don't manage my stam well. So I might as well get a benefit from it. lol
high rain
oh like kinetic deflection?
Yes! But it works on blitz and staffs
solid pond
oh like kinetic deflection?
I think they also mean the other way around
zealous wing
i would like a talent that works like KD but for sprinting
replace warp speed with it even, idm, make it work even if SG isnt active, fucking GLORIOUS
but then i'd be way too powerful
@solid pond what difficulty would you say illisi drops off in usability?
high rain
So stamina before peril would also add another optional talent to venting shriek and scrier gaze, rebreather restore up to 60% of stamina consumed on ability activation
zealous wing
should still work ok in auric, no?
high rain
So stamina before peril would also add another optional talent to venting shriek...
But then again this would be hella op
solid pond
should still work ok in auric, no?
yeah works fine in auric, you could take it into H20s fine
solid pond
superiority/slaughterer for the meme
zealous wing
why
solid pond
77% strength
zealous wing
hmm
solid pond
high rain
Is there any way to make purgatus staff get hella strong
zealous wing
fuck it, i crossed 2mil, i can spend a lil more on 11
high rain
Like I have seen people stagger crushers with it
solid pond
equip it
zealous wing
LMB staggers, RMB damage
solid pond
you won't stagger crushers with it
zealous wing
usually tho a good purg psyker will use the force sword of choice
solid pond
likely they just quick swapped to a FS
H2 on Deimos will plant them on their ass and so will the PA
zealous wing
it does stagger if KF triggers
high rain
Must have been the wind then
Like I see a random psyker rushing the crusher and boom, uses primary fire and it's staggered?
How
solid pond
prob KF
high rain
Not even triggering brain burst
solid pond
then you're tripping lol
plucky flax
Is there any way to make purgatus staff get hella strong
No its impossible
plucky flax
Never see burga in havoc ever
high rain
I am genuinely hallucinating then
plucky flax
Tru
zealous wing
i just had a fun thought
make tox gas flammable
if someone fires a bullet or actual fire touches it, kaboom
arby be victims of constant explosions
solid pond
deep rock neurotoxin flamer enjoyer
plucky flax
Smoke nade should clear bomb, flame and tox gas
zealous wing
i think zealot fire grenades should clear hostile fire, and ye smokes should clear tox 
solid pond
immolation grenades should do burn stacks
zealous wing
nothing sucks more than seeing zealot fire and thinking "safe to stand" and it indeed not safe to stand
solid pond
make them not dogshit
zealous wing
honestly just trying to get some use out of this skin (and the other one tbh)
i need me an FGS skin that isnt dogshit so BADLY
solid pond
do you have the red one with wings near the handle
cuz im pretty sure thats the only one that exists that isn't the level 20 mastery
depresso
they hate greatswords
nocturne wasp
Why everything gotta be red
solid pond
go fast
nocturne wasp
They isn't orcs tho
solid pond
not with that attitude
solid pond
credit slop shop
zealous wing
this one is the best of the three free ones
and the word "best" doing a LOT of heavy lifting here
solid pond
lmao
zealous wing
zealous wing
its shit on everything
solid pond
all of them are
zealous wing
mastery skin is just ass
high rain
all of them are
Bolt pistol 🤤
nocturne wasp
They're all shit bc red
zealous wing
fucking make it black instead of white and itd be fucking OK at least
and the checker pattern!? why!?
high rain
and the checker pattern!? why!?
Mechanicus shenanigans
nocturne wasp
Unchecked authority
zealous wing
fatshark got mad at me and broke my internet
solid pond
Bolt pistol 🤤
zealous wing
no i joined after it was here
high rain
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704285813860728885/1156371759260504075/...
Miaw
solid pond
why do all psyker legs make them look like twinks
quiet inlet
or hobos
high rain
why do all psyker legs make them look like twinks
It's the armor the main problem
strong gulch
Seems like I can only hit heads with jump shots.
Bet it would still be true with tallest characters.
wraith sphinx
why do all psyker legs make them look like twinks
What's wrong with slim fit pants
solid pond
What's wrong with slim fit pants
🫃
solid pond
plucky flax
h40 ready rifle for zealot
solid pond
perfect
wraith sphinx
It's peak 🥲
late yew
i hate it on so many levels
summer prairie
could be worse, I've tried something like that with recon las, maybe he's just experimenting
wind spruce
h40 ready rifle for zealot
No hit & run is a tragedy
plucky flax
Any russian?
summer prairie
"Nemo (Nemo): In Bolshebikessa, I advise putting all talismans on +stamina (and in additional characteristics +5% to stamina), this is necessary for a veteran."
summer prairie
also wants +20 gunner res on every curio for a total of "60%" and 158 "stamina/durability" so maybe he's talking about hp
makes more sense
plucky flax
I see
summer prairie
instead of +9 stamina
plucky flax
Its the zealot giving the vet advices
He went with this gun though before the match start.
weary idol
holdover from when weapons couldn't reroll both blessings
so there had to be bad ones to make good blessings artificially rare
weary idol
I wouldn't mind a blessing rework
that focuses on reworking the blessings/blessing pools of weapons to have less outright bad/redundant ones
wraith sphinx
Yep
celest valve
Stripped down is such a weird pointless blessing
not everyone is a psyker.
wraith sphinx
not everyone is a psyker.
Do you think I exclusively play psyker or something
celest valve
it's possible!
wraith sphinx
I play all classes and I would not use stripped down on any single one of them
weary idol
not everyone is a psyker.
and nobody should be using stripped down 💀
weary idol
I play all classes and I would not use stripped down on any single one of them
I mean...maybe on ogryn I would
Shame he DOESN'T HAVE IT
celest valve
admittedly am thinking more of the much better ghost I think
wind spruce
admittedly am thinking more of the much better ghost I think
Ghost isn't good, EE exists...
celest valve
Ghost isn't good, EE exists...
and this is why I mentioned psykers
wind spruce
That's the joke
weary idol
Ghost isn't good, EE exists...
randoms accusing me of cheating when I use laspistol and just stand still plinking at shooters with laspistol xd
because ghost+EE
wraith sphinx
based
wind spruce
randoms accusing me of cheating when I use laspistol and just stand still plinki...
Someone was trying to tell me how I should really check out las pistol, you can just stand there shooting and not get hit by bullets!
Lil bro I been doing that since literally the same day EE and scriers came into existence
celest valve
me when the funny assail plinks shooters and makes me immune
wind spruce
The feeling that first day of just standing there shooting a reaper and it not doing anything to me... incredible
Haven't topped how good that first day of the talent tree overhaul felt since tbh
plucky flax
Real
kindred temple
how are we feeling about putting orange glowing eyes on your psyker
wraith sphinx
how are we feeling about putting orange glowing eyes on your psyker
I'm ngl the orange eyes just don't look good
They should be brighter and more intense because they just look like regular brown eyes to me at a glance
kindred temple
They should be brighter and more intense because they just look like regular bro...
depends on the lighting
making your psyker's sclera black helps
wraith sphinx
I suppose but I still wish they were brighter
kindred temple
a little bit brighter would be fine
stable ether
Did the Electrokinetic staff lose a blessing somewhere along the way?
Because I am on 19/20 with one point left to spend, but will get 5 points at level 20
quartz barn
stable ether
Oh lovely
wraith sphinx
Oh yeah the funny EK mastery points
acoustic jacinth
Hmmm
Decided on nexus + surge regardless of shitty charge time on voidstrike
I feel like esp with hp changes
It'll matter more
I'll just spam it at half charge or so
With +5% crit too it reaches nearly 50% crit at its peak
What was it i got, 47.50% iirc
wraith sphinx
Decided on nexus + surge regardless of shitty charge time on voidstrike
that's the only VS build I like
also I don't think charge time is that important when you can cut a swath through poxers with minimal rmb charge
only gets dicey if you get cornered by 8 crushers
acoustic jacinth
that's the only VS build I like
I find myself in the same spot
Like
Dd and sg are fun
But
Staff psyker always feels incomplete to me without proper shriek spam with WS
wraith sphinx
acoustic jacinth
I kinda feel bad dropping fgs cause i love it
wraith sphinx
my current gaze staff build
acoustic jacinth
But eh
Might have to deimos it
Ok lets see
Yeah i get the idea
M2 spam quitetude and anchor for stacks
acoustic jacinth
Surprised by smite (not in a bad sense, but i feel like youd nuke smaller enemies and stagger larger with that much m2 spam already)
wraith sphinx
I don't enjoy using smite but I find it pairs well with voidstrike specifically
wraith sphinx
pretty economical blitz pick too because I never feel the need to pick either subnodes as opposed to bb or assail
you zap em for a sec, you knock them back, switch back to voidstrike
acoustic jacinth
acoustic jacinth
pretty economical blitz pick too because I never feel the need to pick either su...
Yea
Ill take sg for a spin
If theres any staff id do it on, i guess
Itd be this
But shriek is still just, shriek sadly
Inflates damage stupid amounts
acoustic jacinth
Ye
I made the build
Gonna run both loadouts in tandem
And compare damage
Even though its a little unfair
Due to shriek being THE scoreboard bragger
Funny big numbers for pressing F at high peril
barren field
is this any good havent tried it
acoustic jacinth
A mission win is a mission win
Yeah, i use it to compare whatever i do pretty much, and i filter builds that way by process of elimination
Whatever lacks behind i change or trash if its that bad
acoustic jacinth
is this any good havent tried it
Depends on the context but this is almost always taken with scrier's gaze, so yeah it's good
It lets you use peril generating actions for 10 seconds
Without blowing up
(Overloading)
acoustic jacinth
Yeah, send build if you like when done
barren field
first day of playing psyker Im only running melee on him so
laspistol is there for movement speed and dealing with unyielding
sniping specials every here and there too i dont really use blitz
acoustic jacinth
Most nodes are, not bad but there are definitely changes to be made. Namely your soulblaze talents. I guess you're trying to make blazing spirit work but it doesn't exactly pan out as well as you'd think. I'll send you some stuff soon. Check it out and see how you feel, if you like
barren field
sure thing, have had success with my build but def not a psyker player so idk
acoustic jacinth
acoustic jacinth
sure thing, have had success with my build but def not a psyker player so idk
Yeah, i don't doubt it, the build has a good foundation
Try this if you like and see how you feel
barren field
feel free to dm me or ping me here ill give ur build a tryout
this sword legit reminds me of exec sword kruber from vm2 so far
acoustic jacinth
Btw, a small suggestion, if you play havoc switch flak to unyielding. I don't want you to lack in bossfights
barren field
Btw, a small suggestion, if you play havoc switch flak to unyielding. I don't wa...
oh yeah I have unyielding on pistol its burn build
acoustic jacinth
oh yeah I have unyielding on pistol its burn build
I mean for melee
Cause
This build
With unyielding
And mk6 fgs
Is a literal boss killer
Your fgs thrusts chunk hp
barren field
thats true i pretty much 2 shot crushers
acoustic jacinth
Since your finesse dmg is so high
You can do 6500+ dmg on crit
But anyways yeah
Let me know how it goes
barren field
yeah I dont really use flak much only put it there for captains
acoustic jacinth
Yep
barren field
hmm i think ill keep pistol unyielding too for captain burn and nurgle
acoustic jacinth
Up to you. But with this build, i cannot vouch for shooting monstrosities and caps
barren field
i have flak for captain and unyielding
barren field
yeah idk if burn from laspistol is better for captains health
im assuming it is I do it on vet
acoustic jacinth
Laspistols/bistols in meleeker builds serve as quick elite disposal at best
acoustic jacinth
im assuming it is I do it on vet
Eh trust me when i say this, good vets don't bother either. They melee the captains and monstrosities with a power sword, for example.
Infernus is good but not for "boss killing"
barren field
Eh trust me when i say this, good vets don't bother either. They melee the capta...
hmm idk about that Im vet main most dps Ive gotten is when I put max burn on captains when shield is broken and then i spam melee
burn dot does so much dmg to their shield
Its like 40% overall i believe maybe a bit lower
but yeah when shield is up def melee
acoustic jacinth
As you know their shield downtime is limited by their damage taken unless it's twins
Ideally you have something like power sword and PA them till you're done
But regardless
It doesn't matter THAT much
Very small aspect of gameplay difference
barren field
As you know their shield downtime is limited by their damage taken unless it's t...
I can livestream what I mean at some point it wont take long way easier to explain there
tl dr is u apply max burn dot on them and it keeps chipping on their shield once uve damaged their health to the exact amount the game allows u to
tulip kettle
it stacks 4 times.
barren field
it stacks 4 times.
BRUH FATSHARK CMON
tulip kettle
and cant lie
barren field
you have been playing psyker for like, a day
yeap a day
started an hour ago
had him leveled from 2 years ago
tulip kettle
so maybe take the advice given instead of telling others how stuff works? hot take im sure
barren field
never touched him again
barren field
so maybe take the advice given instead of telling others how stuff works? hot ta...
im talking about vet dot not psyker dot
barren field
I can test real quick and send pic of how much dmg max burn does to shield
give me a sec
tulip kettle
your build looks fine but you would probably do better with assail. and blazing spirit blessing is non functional on melee weapons.
marble crater
Melee blazing spirit is not non-functional, it's a litmus test
barren field
actually it does way less dmg than i thought
thats what 25% of their shield from dot
acoustic jacinth
Yeah same thing works with psyker soulblaze
barren field
still very useful tho
acoustic jacinth
As i said like
Not bad
And you wont have to worry about it this much
Like
Ever
But especially on this build
Melee bosses
barren field
alr
acoustic jacinth
You have enough finesse to headshot god
acoustic jacinth
We love backshots
It's situational with burgles tbf
Terrain makes a big difference
But key is movement
And tail swipe
Please
Dont forget
barren field
man Im glad i tried psyker again this build is great
acoustic jacinth
Yea
barren field
the last node about the overloading
barren field
how exactly does it work
acoustic jacinth
Oh in general?
barren field
like when i reach 100 I cant overload for like 2 3 secs or sth?
acoustic jacinth
Whenever SG's peril buildup causes you to reaches 100%
You have 10 seconds
Of spamming
barren field
WAIT REALLY?
barren field
i assumed 10 secs was from starting ability
acoustic jacinth
You will not blow up
barren field
thats insane
barren field
no more push attack overload lol
acoustic jacinth
It is still important
To build up your stacks first
Now in my build i gave you by crack of bone
So i doubt you can get carried away
However keep in mind
Build up your stacks first
Plus, whilst in SG
You also have the crit bonus
So yeah
barren field
And mk6 fgs
whats fgs stand for?
acoustic jacinth
There's benefits to not overloading immediately for that 10s bonus
acoustic jacinth
whats fgs stand for?
Force greatsword
acoustic jacinth
The other mark has better horde clear but considerably worse single target
barren field
Build up your stacks first
gotcha
acoustic jacinth
For mk6 fgs you'll hear complaints of it not having the best horde clear, but most people don't learn their weapons well
Remember this for mk6 fgs
Just one push
Not push attack just push
Gives you
One followup horizontal light
Folloed by 3 wide swing arcs
So 4 very good horde clear lights
Just from a push
barren field
I think ill main this build now lol
acoustic jacinth
👍
deft stump
So 4 very good horde clear lights
You can get away with just light spam even tbh.
acoustic jacinth
You can but the horizontal light is really good
plucky flax
barren field
nice name XD
acoustic jacinth
Yeah, it is a little input heavy by comparison though so its why i recommended push followup first
But definitely
Mk6 is cinema tbh
barren field
thanks for the coaching bois
patent steeple
Mk6 is cinema tbh
is mk6 the one with the stab as the post-big push heavy? idr the mks for FGS anymore, but I use the one with the stab as part of the heavy spam...
patent steeple
Mk6 is the one with stab on heavy 2
so the one I use. Thx for the reminder.
barren field
@tulip kettle just saw ur pinned comment and holy shit i always wanted a way to describe this to new players
hahahaha still dunno if this is intentional troll from fatshark
patent steeple
<@453628860567650304> just saw ur pinned comment and holy shit i always wanted a...
you mean the expertly-drawn map of where to stand in a specific room on a specific map? I still have no idea what map it is, and which event part of it...
barren field
you mean the expertly-drawn map of where to stand in a specific room on a specif...
im pretty sure its the med station of death where pox bursters always spawn from the side door could be wrong tho
mighty cipher
you mean the expertly-drawn map of where to stand in a specific room on a specif...
Consignment Yard. It’s the room where you do the Data Interrogation.
barren field
oh yeah ur right im wrong here
fun fact u can shoot ritual in havoc from the top of that room where it says death
if it spawns after the event doors
patent steeple
Consignment Yard. It’s the room where you do the Data Interrogation.
I see. I probably will never actually remember the correct strat for it, but then again, my teams usually wipe at the finale instead...
high rain
lament jay
Hey im a new psyker to the game, i was wondering what are yalls opinions on the "magic types"? Like which one is best for what (i only have one hour on the game so please dumb it down for me)
barren field
Hey im a new psyker to the game, i was wondering what are yalls opinions on the ...
fatshark is very infamous on talent descriptions so be aware. what people might suggest to u might sound stupid but its just fatshark explaining talents with the writing level of a 6 year old
lament jay
@barren field lol I need 6 year old descriptions 🙏
barren field
no, like they are really bad and spread misinformation
lament jay
Ohh I see
barren field
for example this blessing i just sent stacks 5 times
other than that idk much if anything about psyker so I cant really help you with most things
marble crater
Hey im a new psyker to the game, i was wondering what are yalls opinions on the ...
Brain Burst is great at sniping far away targets, mostly snipers and specials, and free damage with the Kinetic Flayer add on
Assail is great for leveling and later it's great for horde clear and sniping some enemies, also good for gun and melee builds because of synergy
Smite is great as a trap for new players, teaching them bad habits, preventing them from learning all the mechanics and making people think they are contributing more to the team than they are
lament jay
@marble crater daggum thx
tulip kettle
yup thats a great summary of the blitzes
though, for psyker, blitzes are generally only a small part of your toolset and not the main focus of builds
barren field
Brain Burst is great at sniping far away targets, mostly snipers and specials, a...
assail is soooo good on lower difficulties
lament jay
Assail is the electric one right
tulip kettle
WE DONT TALK ABOUT THAT ONE
no, smite is the electric one
and like sut said, its bad.
marble crater
Assail is blue bees
wraith sphinx
Shards of fucked up magical ice
lament jay
Oh I thought it would be better 🙁
tulip kettle
it stops you learning the game and makes you think you are being helpful
barren field
I dont think smite is bad I think it makes the game boring though
tulip kettle
assail, the blue shards, is very good even up to the highest difficulty content. each blitz is used in a different way
it IS bad
it does almost no damage to anything important
wraith sphinx
Smite is bad for new players because it's like riding a bicycle all your life with training wheels
tulip kettle
actively lowers your entire teams dps
barren field
yeah but it saves ur havoc 10 teammate from getting oh to brazil
lament jay
Would it be smart to learn the game mechanics well before using smite? That way I can know how to actually use it?
tulip kettle
yes.
zinc phoenix
Smite is bad because smiters are pretty much universally “regarded”
patent steeple
it stops you learning the game and makes you think you are being helpful
there are so many instances of me having to run all the way to the opposite side of any large-ish room to melee enemies, because the smite psyker stunlocked them there...
tulip kettle
but once you have learned the mechanics
you wont want to use it
because you will understand why its bad
lament jay
Makes sense
zinc phoenix
Also I will barrel any smiter I see
Every time
I will push bursters at them, I will not pick them up
I will shoot bursters that get close
I actively want them to have a bad time
lament jay
Ill prolly try the assail first cause from the sound of it sounds good
barren field
smite isnt bad it just trivialises dealing with elites and makes them game boring plus u could be doing dps instead
so not as good
zinc phoenix
My favorite thing is seeing a spawn beat smiters to death
tulip kettle
GENERALLY, the main blitzes are brain burst, and assail. they are both used differently. brain burst is mainly taken for the modifier, kinetic flayer. assail is taken to help with clearing hordes and to maintain high peril
deft stump
Ill prolly try the assail first cause from the sound of it sounds good
It is. Clears everything but crushers really on lower diffs.
barren field
i only take it when im helping new players not get deleted thats it
lament jay
@tulip kettle ooh that sounds perfect for me
zinc phoenix
Assail is incredibly useless against any carapace
tulip kettle
obligatory smyker clip
zinc phoenix
So make sure to go find out what has carapace and then don’t throw assail at or near it
lament jay
Carapace is like armored enemies right
tulip kettle
the heavy armour, yes
lament jay
Kk
deft stump
Carapace is like armored enemies right
Is still okay on flak.
tulip kettle
it makes a "dink" sound when you hit it with something innefetive and you get the blue hit marker
barren field
obligatory smyker clip
ur the guy she told me not to worry about arent you
lament jay
My internet is crap so I cant even see it lmao
zinc phoenix
Carapace is like armored enemies right
Go into the meat grinder and stab every enemy in various spots. It will tell you what armor they have where. This is incredibly important and will help you be much much better at the game
There are a lot of baddies with carapace hats and flak nutsacks