#psyker-class
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Busy hanging with wife
Oh man, I can only hope for such splendor!
That would make this penance go so deliciously fast
pop in whenever
I find my damage taken depends on how good my teammartes are
lvl 1 > lvl 7
Does the physical burster have like a hurt box?
lag for the win
like this
that's it lmao
The pickaxe shaking is actually the ogryn taking a sniff and having a heart attack, then the burster explodes
@quiet inlet am bugged relaunching
kk
i was trying to speed upgrade gun and got locked weirdly
shpeed
working okay
servo skull asmr
So I’ve recently created a build using shield since I wanted to try it out and I know bubble is the meta but is there any arguments to using the wall version? (I play Damnation/aruic difficulty if that makes a difference)
You can stack KR more with x2 shields for and EB BB build. It's nice for stopping specials, but tappers can shoot through it at a slight angle.
Walls are too short to protect oggys, but with some smart placement it can be good.
High skill needed to use effectively.
make ogryn crouch walk everywhere, ez fix
Ok good notes, I’ll definitely try it out but I’d more describe myself as medium skill lol
Kill the oggys
Oggys are rashuns according to burgles and chaos spawn
Me when I look at the burster of insta death
probably out of rotation commodore shop
paid cosmetic from a while ago, few months
there’s a lot of cool cosmetics that just have yet to return
Not even just the ones marked with the skull in shop
Nice, cant wait to have it in rotation 😄
Lag so funny.
Get knocked over by a dog before it even jumps.
ooof 🙁
it works
IDK what it is about discord VC, but a lot of the time someone hops in and says something like "I don't even play this game." "I don't even like this game."
Like... ok?
🙃
yes
earlier was very random
happens alot in party vc
like, why you here then? 
like right now, for example?
for socializing
ye
Voluntarily goes to an Italian restaurant and sits down at a random table already seated with people and says, "I don't even like Italian food."
Ez clown mode.
LOL
turns out the restaurant is Olive Garden lmao
Tried official cord vc before in the past. Almost always some empty nonsense. Not even the benign funny kind either.
Being at a restaurant with someone that talks mad shit about the food and servers but eating the entire time anyway?
is there a reason for the mk10 laspistol to be so shit against maniac
every other facet of the weapon is fine, decent
but that alone is terrible
no. it's like you go to a group's table who have already ordered. and then without asking or anything you just take some food off their plates and start eating
anyone interested in the journey of Psyker XI through auric?
"is anyone still listening?" silence
"ill take that as a no, bye"
not like we're focusing on auric or anything 😭
watching stream go sideways "So what do you think of the hive scum?
RIGHT!?
i think hive scum is great 😛
just, yeah go ahead and yap over the laggy sound cues
surely we appreciate the yappening
WAS ACTIVELY WATCHING MY STREAM BTW
just floored
like ah yes theres only a max lvl psyker and a lvl 10 psyker alive on auric HISTG let me yap
@zealous wing I just saw the time, gonna get some dinner. Games we fun, thanks!
ah oki
late dinner xD
11 pm dinner
5am lunchtime
wait am i the only one here with a semi-normal schedule?
I work 1130 to 730
Wmt
yes
how good is relic blade at the moment?
I think that sword fucks
How the Relic Sword makes me feel:
The song Butcher Pete by Roy Brown of the Fallout 3 Soundtrack. You can hear this song on Galaxy News Radio.
Image by Duoae from Deviantart.
"This shit sucks lol"
Anyone wanna do Havoc things? I don't care what level. If we do, like, sub-30 I might be goofy
fuckin weird being lvl 13 and have not touched the terminal yet
rot armor garden though i still find very opressive
Woo
Sure. Need like 10 minutes.
Ninja will join too
can i tag?
uprising is always so eerie to walk through after the fuckin auric HISTGs
sure
im literally just, 
you keep expecting enemies but there's nothing
were you around for sedition?
no 🙁
i kinda wish it was still here
i started playing in late july
i dont really remember how much less it was than uprising, since i played very little and then came back ... right after arby? so right after it was gone
but like, even less enemies than uprising is a wild thought
makes me laugh a little on the inside knowing that the asshole in comms who was like "do you guys even know how to play this game!?" when we're looking for resources.... was in fucking SEDITION like, bro clearly you didnt know how to play EITHER lmao
LOL
i remember i stopped playing the game for a few days cuz when i was leveling my first class
an ogryn in damnation told me i really suck
and it was one of my first damnation missions
thats a yikes
anyways, i never want to be that guy telling others they suck
@ripe obsidian @royal totem Loading the game. We can do ninja's sub-30 havocs
one of the reasons i like having true level. like fair it doesnt paint the whole picture, but, im gonna keep a closer eye on the lower level people in the match i drop into than the level 300+ motherfucker, unless the lowlevel shows they can hold their own and the 300+ cant do shit
mine are sub-30 too 🙂 but yea can do ninja's its no worries
i'd rather keep someone potentially newer from having a bad experience of spectation the whole time
Hexis is a good person
i didn't join this server for the longest time cuz i've joined game servers full of elitist assholes 🙁
i try my best to remember what it was like being new to the game, its easy now because i've only started playing FPS style games relatively recently, on PC even moreso.
example, we here know to PUSH nearby bursters, but, new players hear the characters say to shoot it, so i only give grief on higher difficulties or to people who really clearly should know better. everyone starts somewhere, but also sometimes some people never leave the starting line 
that grief is usually a "thanks" tag
that can also loop full circle, when you start shooting a pox burster that's 50 meters away, that somebody then starts rushing it
😄
sometimes i shoot them
@ripe obsidian https://discord.gg/EuKpJ2N6
also
Don't have to talk
my vet is the one that says to shoot poxbursters 🙂
didnt want to take corruption from slug, i had a different idea to get res xD
@tulip kettle look at what i make @quiet inlet envious of
I need a couple minutes, will be ready shortly
@strong gulch and respirator
Ready
so, is Malleus Monstronum just broken? I full killed two monstrosities with basically only brain burst and an Arbites dog taking pot shots. Neither gave me the penance. In a private game on heresy.
@royal totem hestia?
50% damage to a monstrosity on heresy or higher, private game, it works as of a few days ago
errr afaik it's not. i've helped like 5 people get it so far
and the most recent was like 2 days ago or so
I don't understand then. I went in with empowered and scriers and chain popped while my team watched
it's alright. Done with it for now, 4 monstrosities full killed with brain burst and no credit.
youre 100% sure it was set to private game?
party lead said he did. can't really check his work.
then he likely didnt
must not have
i think it does
he swapped characters and it probably reset. neat. love this.
shit happens, does suck your time was wasted though
finally. got it off a weakened.
Interesting
Thank you
I like the change effect to be like the tempestus scion helmet
If you have tertium missions set to on it overrides the private game setting
i believe any qp at all overrides it
See? They're back in there
Ty for games @ripe obsidian @quiet inlet @strong gulch
thinking of doing a Purgatus build, which of the builds in the guide should I run? im not used to flame staff
Gun psyker
Correct
Darktide 3 pog
remade my staffker gaze build because what I was running with pre-bound by duty just wasn't cutting it anymore
which mod adds the mkultra whispering to the meat grinder?
Normal weapon holstered placements
okay how do i, like, not die so fast as a melee psyker
cause i am dying very fast
Doesn't clip too bad the tube from the coat somehow fit between the grip and butt
Purgatus Build
???
Depends on your build, gear and playstyle. I generally go for fast weapons, aim for weakspots and rapid fire crits to regain toughness and get kills. Plus having scrier's gaze up 99% of the time
I think I have a recommended one listed. If you're new to it, bubble + empyric resolve is probably safest. I personally find Shriek to be the best, but many people prefer bubble for the safety
purgatus + bubble shield is the safest and simplest loadout in darktide period, you'll comfortably figure out how to play purga with that
I would heavily recommend switching to shriek once you familiarize yourself with the staff though, the damage output is impeccable
just do not run smite with purgatus, you will be defenseless vs. ranged enemies
Wait, are they melee or not? Their question could be read two ways
Dodge. Block. Slide. Cover. Know what you can fight and what you cant.
Brother-in-law wanted a melee psyker build. This one is made for an ok player rather than a good player. Can anyone tell me if it's gas or ass?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0645b0d-fa81-49e7-99e1-2c374463050e/cjs-melee-psyker
90% of it is avoiding enemy attacks. The other 10% is good toughness regen. But to avoid enemy attacks, you need to be very aware of enemy locations, particularly elites and specials, and where you can safely dodge and retreat. Keep your dodge timer in mind. Don't be afraid to back up to a better place to fight if you're in a bad way.
I have like 10 melee builds in the pinned guide, including one for beginners
I would not personally recommend the revolver on meleeker, particularly the Agri one.
The build you linked is not very good, I'm afraid.
so there's no way to just keep swinging like with a melee zealot?
Fair point.
Plus I like looking at other builds, but not actually using them, as I feel like they aren't customized to my playstyle
I also have templates for that reason
You can look at the core of a build and customize it
You can. And keep scrier's gaze up the whole time if there are enemies around
Important question: what difficulty? Because a zealot who just keeps swinging in melee in high havoc will die.
the 4th tier, thats oprobably why i keep dying
Make sure you know when to parry or dodge
Damnation
I would recommend focusing on improving your dodging, movement, and pushing. Don't worry too much about blocking. Blocking is usually not a very good option unless you absolutely must do it
yea i barely block at all really unless its for a block pushing attack
Pushing is important. Bear in mind that blocking and pushing affect everything around you, not just the front
There are different levels of block and push depending on the angle of attack, so blocking an attack from behind costs more stamina, I believe
I swear I learn something new and important every time I open this discord
you can block behind you???
what next, you can block bullets? (joking, I know there are weapon modifiers that can do that)
This is probably accurate:
Push/Block Angle
PUSH/BLOCK ANGLE refers to the difference in angles in which you can block enemy attacks and shove enemies away.
The direction you face is referred to as your effective block angle. All enemies in this radius can be shoved and attacks blocked will have a 0% increase in stamina cost
Behind you is considered to be outside of your effective block angle. Enemies in this radius cannot be shoved, and while you CAN still block attacks they will have a 100% increase in stamina cost.
Though it does say you can't shove enemies behind you
Let me go test that
Pretty sure i can shove dogs pouncing from behind...
Yeah, it's just wrong
Pushing absolutely affects enemies behind you, just less
You can see the hitmarker on my push
Thank you for confirming. This is game changing information
I try to confirm things when I can
Is why I wrote the build guide. I wanted accurate information out there
And the existing psyker guide is sadly outdated
I should probs say. Your positioning also important. Basically where you are relative to your team. If youre far away from them then thats not good and such.

10/10 username
It's a lot of work to keep things updated.
Dun like strikes?
It never came up in QP
And never had any good builds
ty for the games
Music to my ears
(It's a French word for musical scales)
Sorry
I fear he is no match for this one
even if you hit 100 peril from the burst you wont explode
you can then quell for one tick, rinse and repeat
i raise you a
Good one, but let me raise you
You know, there’s another thing you can cast at 100% peril
You can actually have it up infinitely

no shit sherlock
ty
I break with the convention here and just use a staff with maxed warp resistance cos peril management is fucking annoying on ek
You could also go with Scryers gaze too, iirc one of the upgrades makes it so that you can’t blow up at 100% peril for a while afterwards
And if you kill enough specialists, you can have it permanently at 100% peril with… a certain blitz…
perhaps, but shriek covers groups which EK doesn't do great
The forbidden off switch
You wanna know something that has insane CC that works well with Scryers gaze?
I call it the turn your brain off simulator
To be fair I only use it if everyone’s ok with it
We are about to have a smiteophobic incident in the chat 🥀
why does electrokinetic like combat knife?
I prefer my flame and voidblast staffs anyways
Smite is just stupidly funny
I only like smite with voidstrike
No staffs
Feels redundant with every other staff
What you want is a laspistol for range
ooh I could do smite voidstrike, that sounds fun
It's awful with guns too because you will be guzzling thru ammo depending on AI director's mood
And we already have enough ammo guzzlers in qp
Only use the gun for targets outside of smite range
Want my build for it?
Yes
The magic railgun ball
Not the most beginner friendly build but knock yourself out
Here’s my build for smite
Figuring out what does and doesn't work is part of the fun for me
As for tips, just charge it up then hold it down, activate Scryers gaze whenever you’re at high peril, then keep holding it until you’re either stopped from a lack of kills or you’re able to activate the ability again
Even at 100% peril, you won’t overload if you’re using Scryers gaze
I still personally prefer the voidblast staff, but voidstrike is cool
voidstrike is the weakest staff right now and by quite a bit
but it's still fun
I like it
Yeah, kind of sad tbh
It used to be the best one
patch 13 was so good
probably the best time to play darktide
I just got the game a few weeks ago tbh
The only class I don’t have level 30 is my Vet
wrong
vet is the second strongest class behind psyker
and the smite propaganda in this chat right now is fucking cringe
also are there any builds that want wall instead of dome
im watching a guy use wall so well rn and I wanna try it
they want wall
but tbf i see " i got the game a few weeks ago" and "this is my smite build" and am not surprised
remove smite ™
ad no, no builds want wall
brainburst
wall is bugged and literally doesnt work
literally wants wall
nope
yup
no
yes
riveting conversation
5 seconds differnce
but wall has 2 charges
not 15
5
5 second difference
bb kinda mid anyways

rly only good for kf
I only have it because its passive on alot of what I use because of KF
lol
its not
if you gotta build into some meme wall nonsense to make it work its a profoundly mid ability
on top of sacrificing the actually useful bubble
whatever you need to tell yourself
kr is like the only reason to take double wall ever
he asked whether any builds use walls
and it's brainburst
wall is too short, doesnt work at angles, etc etc
they do not function
There's just no other reason
It doesn't
specials will literally run through it
cant forget dogs running through walls 3 times in a row, theres a clip here somewhere
I am not saying any of this shit is good
it doesnt do the one thing its meant to do
I am just saying that it's a build
and you dont get any meaningful increase on KR over shriek
you get 2 charges
honestly you could probably even take scriers for a max KR build plus WU for free headpops regardless
what does Surge actually do?
whice one
the blessing
strictly speaking it is a build
There are like 3 surges in the game
the blessing? means you shoot 2 balls aty once
just not a good one
Nothing would change tbh
You would still run warp + fire
if only surge staff kept its name when they added the blessing to it
surge surge staff
why are you talking
non rending shockwaver
i will never call any of the staves the voidpoopenfartensharten
for rending?
I prefer not using it, it was just me goofing around with some people in a VC. Voidblast and flame staff are still my favorites
flurry and rending
But then you have no surge
charge level depends on what you're shooting at
for little rotters just a bit of charge is needed
for big fuckers it's 
oh hes one of those
and we will have warp nexus + surge + fire trauma staff
pls let me put 3x slaughterer on everything
3x power cycler
Please let me put 3x thrust on thammer
need that on paul lmaaaoooo
I do solemnly swear that I will never use smite unless the entire team agrees to it, or if we’re doing the funny
When I feel like annoying my team
I run ep smite
when I feel like annoying everyone REALLY hard
i use smite whenever ppl on here start bitching about it
I run smite scriers
SAAAAME
would still be mid
id run smite if it, yknow, looked or sounded good
I can understand why they don’t like it, but it’s still something that (in specific situations) can be very helpful to have

I dont even think 3x surge voidstrike can 1 shot a crusher 
I just want my tiny little German Psyker to scream out “UNLIMITED POWER” every now and then while using it
It totally can
yea thats like 6 crits
4 crit balls surely kills
dont tell me vs is that shitty
would x3 surge be 4 balls
is it ?
or 6 balls
its pretty mid lol
if staff had balls 
I can go psyk it if you want, but I swear I remember it doing like 1000 a ball
vs is full of balls yes
If I’m being honest
nahh
I want to make an Assail build
yeah
does Voidstrike need blast radius
It's not the best sure but vs would only be truly shit if it couldn't stagger crushers
I want my spicy ice crystals
maybe
no
nope
yeaj
its the usual dump i believe
it is
or wait no
blast radius or warp resistance both sound like ok dumps
dump blast radius on voidstrike
awesome
why the fuck did they rename trauma and
you dump radius on strike
just got a perfect voidstrike on first try then
I have warp res dump vs
was voidstrike still voidstrike before
yeaj
Yes
why wouldnt you
only staff that kept its name
it's the only staff not changed to some bullshit voidenpoopensharten
Trauma = Voidblast
Voidstrike = Voidstrike
Surge = Electrokinetic
Purgatus = Inferno
im starting to forget
Completely unrelated, how’s the fit?
they should all start with void
trauma = trauma
voidflame
I hate these eye covering things
They look terrible
voidshock
voidburn and voidburst
I actually like them
voidstrike gets renamed to voidballs
default psyker lookin
they should rename all of psyker's melee weapons (even the non-unique ones) to blaze force-whatever
but not change how they function at all
psyker should be able to replace infernus with blazing spirit
blaze force wedgie-giver
Blaze-Force Catachan "Devil's Claw" Sword
true, this is true, psyker doesnt have enough fire
Fair, I haven’t spent any money on outfits for classes yet, I might eventually pick something up though
why Warp Charges on ur build?
I actually like the white outfit for 2m dockets
wouldnt u want disrupt destiny
I wear it, it looks nice
does dclaw even get any changes on psyker like some weapons do?
and by some i mean. dueling sword and laspistol?
I do not like disrupt destiny with staves, makes targeting too arbitrary for a surprisingly inconsistent damage increase. Warp charges accomplishes the same with better consistency in conferred damage bonus
I only run disrupt destiny on my gun/meleeker builds
The only inconsistent bursts of damage I like are the automatic brain blasts every 12 seconds
doesn't warp charge for the damage bonus work directly against Scrier's Gaze
on paper yes, in practice no
pop gaze, keep it from overloading and very soon you'll have both the damage bonus from gaze and new warp charge stacks ready to go
oh wow this build seems super fun
why Obscurus?
i feel like something more horde-clear focused would be better, no?
its pretty good
I feel like an Ilissi would be solid
i think it has the fastest ttk for crusher of the force swords
everyone keeps telling me illisi fell off but i
never used it even before
with what combo?
Illisi is only strong vs pure poxer hordes
H1 L2 L3 repeat
force greatsword
force greatsword dominates but it also makes you slow
requires some practice to get the hang of it
it also gets a big force push still which is nice
thats not good
lol
FGS is great though
I just stick to obscurus FS because I love its versatility
I prefer deimos over obs
nah
oh and obs has a solid hordeclear combo too
H1
L1 H2
fgs is essentially my ideal tide-game 2hander
alright fuck it im launchin the game to test both out
its sick as hell
only reason i dont use obscurus (of the regular force swords) is because i love big poke heavies
too unwieldy to do for a dubious gain
and we're not talking h40 strats here 🥀
there's no mod to make DD last forever in the psykhanium, is there
Are you saying that pressing block once to cancel combo and do H1 again is "unwieldy" and "h40 strat"?

obscurus H1 has busted single target damage
They finally buffed it enough
It went through like 5 different patches each buffing it
and it's finally useful
h1 l2 l3 is a bit higher damage than h1 block cancel
they come out so fast
^
just spawn more enemies
i almost like this thing but did someone need to paint it

It is more damage into carapace as well? How're their adms?
I've actually only compared carapace, maybe if your h1 can one-shot some other elites block cancel is better vs multiples of those
Yea, it will obviously be better
If you have the breakpoints, h1 > BC is better
maaaybe you can do h1 l2 l3 into just block cancelling after your uncanny stacks are already up
If you say the truth, h1 l2 l3 would be better into everything else
1582
ive discovered i cant hit stationary targets with obscurus
but h1 block cancel is easier to aim, can opt to do that too
what about with perfectionism...
with a crit on the first hit i can kill an auric crusher in one H L L
I found that with rot modifier just spam fgs special after 1 bar to kill chaffs since they resist range damage anyway.
No point go 2 bars and tickle them.
Did 17k crit on plague ogryn during gaze. The debuff Xd
And I run 15 stacks dd cos bad 
ive never read a sentence that made me more sad
Do you still take the weakspot gives 3 or nah?
I do yeah
Yes 
just, FGS alone is glorious, plus numerous other tools at psykers disposal
I got more total kills than purg psyker because of warp slice spam.
Even told him to go shriek for more damage I can do bubble knight but he said he'd stay with bubble. So I did gazer knight.
I hate how much over reliance on bubble there is in havoc
Especially into stuff like rot armour
You are more likely to get DPS checked in rot armor then die to random gunner fire.
Weakest melee psyker vs strongest burga
Hmm vet krak spam into rot is really high damage.
I think this vet didn't throw nades enough.
me n my homies refuse to run it
just shriek lil bro 
scream if you love venting shriek
havoc hates me. i watch the derank go down after h40 fails and i see shit like this and im just... "nah i'll keep putting ranking up off, its fine"
(its not as bad as if it had stims but its still not a fun mix
hopefully the next modifier rotation batch plays a little nicer than "risk of completely immortal melee elite cluster"
Play purg for ez rank up
im actually one of the psykers who'll admit im a shit purg
im too "bash and wack" now
i keep defaulting to melee when things start surrounding me and, thats like, the ONE thing i shouldnt do unless its to stack uncanny and/or make space
Tru
Question about the surge staff. Was it an okay pick in high difficulties before the crusher doubled its health in the bound by duty update or was it already underperforming before then?
It was really good before.
Now you can't really use it on crushers anymore. Have to melee.
Hopefully its get buffed this coming update. I thought it was supposed to be the armor killer in the game, would be weird if they didnt let it do the role its specifically meant to do.
I get better results on voidstrike for killing armored opponents. But also now I'm hearing that voidstrike isnt good into hordes?
yeah im thinking on diving into havoc since maelstrom is getting too comfy. Voidstrike didnt struggle to penetrate in auric shock troop
As many said, it's not even the cleave being the issue, it's the charge time vs TTK/damage. It already acted like a worse EK for parts.
cant wait to play this later tbh
Do you think scriers gaze can be used with staffs?
Yeah surge left click or voidstrike.
Maybe meme blaze trauma too but shriek is better for flame spreading.
Ah dead hours here
Wasn't there a build for scriers and purgatus as well?
can we start a petition to get fatshark to change the mushroom tip to litterally anything else
literally...anything else?
😏
"mushroom"
when one holds preconceived notions, it often leads to confirmation bias
i personally don't like how thick the sword is
monkey's paw curls
You will use the penis sword and you will enjoy it
what if he does enjoy it already, but wants to fight the habit
Fellas what's the name of this fit?
Skill issue, consult a proffesional
What rotten armor does btw?
I guess it looks like a dick. If I really need it to look like one.
Can check the cosmetic store.
Acolyte's robes
use this mod to check if on pc
Rotten enemies extra resistant to ranged
Oh AND extra crushers maulers ragers
When they explode theres a bit of tox gas where they were
ok yeah people on havoc are geniunely terrible
and leavers of course
holy shit it is miserable
People want to get exposure and experience.
i enjoy havoc more when there's no rot armor
why
i don't like it. i lose most of my rot armor matches
why would i like something that tanks my WR when ranking is involved?
i shop for the easiest possible modifiers which for me is generally like garden+rituals
I could care less. I just want the action.
I'll rank up regardless. But I haven't found my hate modifier yet
Why not 40?
I had a brief period where I coveted the stupid havoc titles for some reason until I saw multiple havoc-forged people play really badly and realizing how pointless it is
coward
now I'm just fragging and gunning for poxbreaker instead 
i'm not good enough. you've seen me play
Just ask karien nicely
bruh, are people allergic to reviving in havoc
you die in havoc you die in real life
yeah no. i just derank when there's rot armor
Rot armour is chill its just when combined with stim it's rough
sorry i'm just not gamer enough
I got no real issues with people liking their banana stickers that they earned from meeting achievements. I enjoy the process of improving at peak difficulty and I just take my time to understand them and how I can play to make it more fun.
if i wasn't trying to win i'd do sillier builds but until then it's shovel plasma gun or DS plasma gun
Also true, I loved playing havoc for that when it first came out because I was still objectively shit at the game back then
Tru
unfortunately I can't do that anymore because randoms are way too bad to deal with twins, which were added later
and I'm not enough of a psychogamer to solo the twins + whatever else AI director throws at me
see? Agent acknowledges it 😛 and that's why i can't ever make it to 40
so i'll settle for 31 so when reset happens again i only get reset down to 30
Good luck
damn and you call yourself bad lol
I couldn't get past 21 on my psyker
BRIUH
i AM bad
no you're not shut up
i only passed havoc 24 because Potato picked me up over and over
I attempted h34 with potato chaos and someone else (clad?)
we lost but it was some of the most fun I had in darktide
more courageous than me
i win when i can stack the deck as hard as possible in my favor
.........OH WAIT. i probably know why nobody accepts my vet. true level probs too low 🙁
vet is my leas played class
the least fun thing about havoc is waiting 30 minutes in PF
and i don't blame anybody for wanting to skip that experience
Barring things that will literally prevent one from playing, committing to telling yourself that you can't do something is a pretty easy way to cycle yourself towards plateauing. Not the end of the world if you really got things that'll hold you back.
But if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy that'll stay fixed until otherwise.
it's just a fact i can't do havoc 40 though
skill level is unfortunately not debatable. you either are good enough to or you're not
People at havoc 40 aren't at havoc 40 because they were predestined to make it there, let alone perform well in it where relevant.
These are humans, not deities.
there are..certain class and certain builds
you can reach and do 40 if you grind those, guaranteed
by that logic everybody can reach 40 eventually and the way i see some people play..........smh
You could maybe try recording your own footage and learning how to break it down over time to clean up things that might be making it easier for you to not perform at the level that you want. There's mods iirc that can allow you to just practice those scenarios. Yes, it'll be in a controlled environment, but that's what training is for in the first place.
They can also be bad and there.
@deft stump plz carry me 😏
nah don't worry about it, a lot of what you see are people playing meme builds for views and lulz
Bad is a spectrum to me. I get what you're saying though. Entirely relying on carries for example will make this a lot more of a problem. Can't always rely on the carry.
You still need to support the carry, basically.
supporting the carry is a skill
Supporting teammates is a skill period
2 of the most notorious meta builds on top of my head for grind is burga and the book bot flammer, you grind these 2 h40 is guaranteed
All of these things are happening at the same time, not in vacuous isolation.
@deft stump on a serious note, i finally beat my friend in specials and disablers killed yesterday night 😭
for the first time ever
Ah. I still slack around as usual.
Should really go finish Lego Skywalker tbh.
like. for the very very first time ever since i started to play the game he's always been a ton better than me beating me in every category across the board and i finally managed to beat him in a category
Like, if your goal is to be topping charts as you've expressed before, you'll need to actually observe and understand what people are doing to be there.
That's progress.
Highly recommend recording your matches and reviewing footage if you actually want internal insight on your habits and responses.
Learning yourself is a skill too. Self-awareness and all that
and if you need a burga build to climb 😏
Warhammer 40,000 Darktide
Build: h'ttps://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a0382ec1-0e4e-4190-818e-b0d71b850eda
战锤40K:暗潮 浩劫40 灵能者
Im bad at burga
To be fair, that's when you realise you are kinda bad.
usings build guides like that to climb is kinda cringe ngl
why is that?
That's the entire point. The point is less about condemning yourself and more about seeing what gaps in play that you have and then just doing the process of improving where one needs to.
Having trouble peeking in some shooter? Look at the replay from your pov and the pov of opponents.
Need to understand an interaction in a fighting game? Review your footage where that interaction beat you. Understand how it's possible and why, redevelop it with dummy playback functions. Then, start seeing what can be done and actually experiment till you find solutions.
Takes time to learn where one is slipping up. But it's not just because of you but the other things happening and so on.
shouldve run fgs, special slice them through the door
because half the challenge is figuring the build
Interestingly it never finished the summon, the just stuck on 75%
It's a good thing nobody needs external validation to make use of a build that provides a desired effect.
idk man ive seen plenty of pubs with supposedly "desired yt validated builds"
Just keep trying as well, giving up means no chance of ever making it. Hooks not made will always miss.
If you understand it.
Yeah and their output with the build is independent of what the build is meant to do/achieve/can achieve.
Same for Arrows and torrents.
P much.
I get if someone doesn't want to do stuff which is fine. Convincing oneself that something isn't possible irrespective of what is actually going to be imposing real limitations is another thing.
Yep. It's strongly mindset related.
Funny when I say it though.
My viggest problem is the lil shits
you take a game too seriously
depending on weapon and class
The person is literally talking about improving and recognizing gaps in play.
Other genres, like a fighting game, literally have training mode tools meant to provide players with multiple methods of figuring things out.
Plus, analyzing one's own play with footage is normal as hell. Doesn't even have to be for a game lol.
This don't need to be "Serious™" . I have fun getting better at things.
Always try to make your build with something meant for hordes, and something meant to hit single big bads hard
Highly recommend getting mods that let you fight against mobs.
And allowing yourself to actually take on the stress of being attacked. How well and consistently can you say that you hit headshots in melee?
That's fine. That's why you want to get better at it. You're not going to be able to get much done in havoc, let alone 31 by not brushing up and polishing your fundamentals.
To be fair, that might not be as important depending on class and build.
It's the difficulty that puts those things to the test more often than other difficulties.
Their builds seem like less of a problem and more like their current capabilities. No build is going to save someone from themselves yk?
Or at least not forever.
True. But even I don't hit weakspots much, heh.
Ranged is probs my largest issue
So yes, if they're admitting to struggling at basic horde clear, that's something worth handling.
I'll admit I used an assumption too because I forgot we're in psyker chat
Lol
Forgot that we got magic.
Yeah. Though sometimes i also just die to twins
Actually i think most of my deaths are boss related
Not all ranged weapons are Great for hordes.
Honestly braced auto is my fave for it
if you're dying to melee twin legit just turn around, hold sprint and W
and they can't hit you
Then perhaps it's time to step into the danger room against them if possible. Maybe check out some relevant videos that break down their behavior.
Their flourish breaks on stamina sprint?
Like breaks tracking?
Ah yes that is a wall everyone must overcome.
For now, focus solely on surviving if a big bad is aggroed on you. Once you've got survival down comfortably you can start poking back.
every single attack the melee twin does will not hit you if you're sprinting away, since the twin stops before starting any attack, even the fast ones
so you'll just dodge them by sprinting away
My problem is rarely bosses by themselves but when there's bs with them
Comes with map knowledge
That is just everyone on team tunneling boss instead of someone clearing
Like which direction specials will spawn and where do enemies path
either way tho that's the cheat way of dealing with the melee twin and won't work in havoc, but it's good knowledge to have for clutching
That one is a bit of a balancing act in my experience. If twins aren't able to cause me enough problems, I keep them in mind while doing whatever I need to do to shut down adds.
As you already know, it's the reinforcements that are the real danger before the twins.
Im just too unskilled
Nope
Focus more on where to polish and less about the fact that you lack experience.
Inexperienced
You're not where you'd want to be yet. There's a difference here between that and a likely imagined immutable absolute.
honestly best way to get better is to get creature spawner and fight shit solo in the meat grinder, it even has pre-setup hordes for you to fight with intensity levels
^
Unironically
Do it with lag comp
And give yourself small goals during drills
tbh online is just easier
Yes
Game is built with lag comp in mind
When you remove it the enemies do different thing and you can't dodge certain attacks
technically if you can dodge offline you'll be gucci online x) but yeah you can set that up as well
I play on EU mostly which doesnt help my latency
but yeah the cool part about this game is, melee builds especially can legit just solo havoc 40 if you're good enough
the audio ques when they work let you have eyes on your back as well, both for melee swings and specials
so yeah just practice and you'll progresivelly get better, you can do focused training in the meat grinder or you can just play more with the intent to get better
both will work either way
Practice and learning is the best
I hope they dont reset havoc with scum
I started doing my 1st auric solos back when I had 2000 hours
95% they will
It lines up with their 3 month reset time
They did it on arby release too iirc
....is it bad asking for ppl for help
Cuz i dont think randoms will cut it with so little time left
No i ask karien to carry me every week
I dont even have 800 hrs in
Exactly
Take your time and learn
Play the game more
Havoc 40 is end end gamemode
Like, you'll get there when you get there. Different speeds for different people. Totally normal. If it just so happens that part of enjoying your hobby means improving yourself within the most challenging difficulty then okay go for it.
Take your time and you'll eventually get to wherever.
I only play with ppl better than me and i dont want to be dead weight
Never
then play book bot, least skill input needed for insane contribution
the meta'est of all meta builds in this game
I am definitely not better than you, we should try to run our way up the ladder together
Since you already helped me take 21 steps on my first go
Well you can also just work on not seeing yourself as dead weight.
Outside of the execution needed to play well and hang with better players, every time you talk about this you do hella self-deprecation. That just feeds into the cycle so any time that could be better spent improving is spent shitting on yourself.
Wasnt me. Thank chaos
What it was definitely you . I've only played with people from here once.
You got my arb to auric then I hopped on my ogryn and we did your havoc
Yeah but our flame psyker that carried was agentchaos
And our zealot was from here too
Not me it was probably some unsanctioned guy
Ur lucky Karien isnt here to flame u
Im not a flamer
Also i think ur havoc rank like 3 now lul @nocturne wasp
Something like that haha
Wot.
Chaos keeps saying i should ask you for help with my havoc!
Just glare at him. He's the carry.
I don't even play havoc personally. More fun just rolling everything and satisfying my power fantasy on auric and damnation
I did it one cycle and got h40 and it was kinda bleh so 🤷
I only get enjoyment doing the hardest content
To each their own. Havoc is really build limiting and dependant on teamwork and have 0 patience for other people's errors. Especially ones i dont know
I want cosmetics once I get them I'm done
I also stopped playing havoc during 1.0 after getting all the cosmetics pieces 
I would say, just finish 25 and farm lower havocs for sanity.
That and I just absolutely abhor shield soooo yeah. Made a choice that havoc just wasn't for me
So I intentionally derank after a few wins?
[Not that other stuff isnt viable I was just never able to squad up unless I had shield]
If needed, though you need to help others for the helmet.
I've done a whole single run, idk what I'm doing
Oh.
No
This season is the hardest and most fun havoc so far yet.
Lmao what do I do then?
My monkey brain saw shriek psykers melting everything and i now need more shriek psykers
I use shriek on my soullfame build
like most annoying
I'll do whatever im hopping om now if you want to play
also build variety isn't improved even with cdr nerf
since rotten armor + stim
if you don't get those 2 then havoc have more variety than before
but that require not getting them
Most annoying and most fun. Most damage farming. Fun to outdamage burga guys
@royal totem
Scan Helper
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/352
Decode Helper
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/252
Tree Helper
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/369
truly incredible that anyone thinks nerfs will increase build diversity rather than force increasingly narrow metas
Nice cheat mods.
cheat after 1k hours
also decode fucking suck because it can appear literally 1 node away when you're at the end of the sides
yea u gotta earn it
at least it isn't that 1 psyker mod that is straight up esp
The way I'm as fast as or slower than my partner (and others) with Decode Helper. 😭
That one is in the accessibility section for me. The other tho?? I'm tired. lmao
ngl that decode shit is so annoying i hardly ever do it unless my team is just scattered to the cosmic winds
besides i gotta let the others progress their penances
If you spam tree, the helper mod isn't that much faster.
so rly im being generous by never scanning or decoding
not saying i deserve a medal but i would certainly accept one
Real
Game knows you're blocking that person and is like, "Heeeeey, what about this one??"
They should make it so if I block someone they also don't see my party finder.
So I don't even see that.
RIGHT
So I have arby at 30 now. I just play what emps gives me gear wise. I went to hadron to put curio chance on, and I got the cinematic for the first time you interact with her. lmao
I never talked to her.
Block function does not do what it's supposed to do
amazing
is this what plate face means by block fodder ?
Ive only blocked people that had racist ass char names/steam names
and only a couple others for toxic bs
Uhhh
I just allowed that guy into my strike team
Is he bad?
Well he left anyway
?
Last night I mentioned a cheat mod you asked which one.
I can't remember which puzzle thing, so here's all of them.
Ive downed from doing decoder though cuz ppl no keep mods off me
Coming back from a long break did they mess with peril edging?
not that im aware of
Trying to remake all my builds :/. ty
they messed with quelling a while back
generally most builds want warp rider, which alone is worth keeping high peril
but ultimately the first tick of quelling isnt affected by modifiers and thats the one that matters
all staffs are 1 tickable
Gotcha ok ty
Quell cancel (QC) used to be a thing on staves. People would macro LMB QC on EK enough of the time that it became a problems. So the way fatshark got rid of that was to change quelling. There is a mandatory minimum now.
I dunno but I had bad experience with him so that's why block.
Not yt worth Xd
Other play styles that weren't a menace, like VB QC on RMB were axed in the process. Quelling is clunkier now.
Assail LMB still has QC for reasons unknown.
Ppl recognise you now lul.
Ah gotcha I play on console. So will see how it feels
No they mistook me for someone else.
I've been recognised for over a year now though.
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