psyker-class

[zealous wing]

such pain

[marble crater]

[zealous wing]

think we'll ever get medusa headpiece

[marble crater]

In two years, it will be a weekend exclusive, one time

[cosmic sigil]

new weapon reveal!

[glass sundial]

Voodoo boy ahh

[white sky]

I hope we eventually get sets that match all artpieces for the game

I kinda doubt it'll happen tho

[deft stump]

Makes no sense to not do it imo. The art was already approved in a way. Just need a 3D wearable one.

[white sky]

Completely agreed

There's some neat looking stuff for everyone in there

[long saddle]

don't we have a lite one with a hood?

[zealous wing]

theres the weird fucking bakkan one that doesnt count

these wires are imbedded in the skull visually

[dense geyser]

are there match making options so that you dont get put into missions that are about to end?

sometimes it spawns you in at 1 hp staning in a pox/fire nade

[long saddle]

no

[dense geyser]

great

[long saddle]

you can select missions that have fresh timers if you want to make sure you get in new games

[long saddle]

ye it was the one I thought of

[zealous wing]

well the good news about this is, you have a few seconds of immunity, and also i always see it as a skill check

[long saddle]

this has a similar vibe and better than the bakkan one

[zealous wing]

eyes are covered, nogo

[graceful arch]

I would but my assignment has dropped so much from bringing like assignment 20 people into 30's

I need to stop doing it.

They're barely able to stay alive in their own assignment ranks

It's actually kind of sad

[long saddle]

I just haven't done havoc since bound by duty

I want to wait out these modifiers a bit

I'm in no rush to get TS

[graceful arch]

Like people don't understand how important it is to play correctly in the DPS tunnel on oubliette.

[plucky flax]

Well if you host your own lobby use a mod to check build as well.

[graceful arch]

Best choice

[graceful arch]

Some of them are like arbites with all the toughness talents.

[strong gulch]

Or an adhd check

click start
loading begins
"feck I forgot water for the 5th time"
leaves to quickly get water
loads quickly for once oh wait it's a hotdrop
panic sit into chair right as you die

[graceful arch]

I just hate being picky about teamates

But I genuinely don't have time to go on losing sprees.

[long saddle]

I have the mod that removes the talking intro when joining in to existing missions

[graceful arch]

Like I have maybe time for 5-6 a week 12 if I'm pushing it.

[long saddle]

and together with SSD I can load in to a mission in like 15 seconds if I'm lucky

so I can't leave for anything lol

[strong gulch]

with team, it's it slower because someone has a slow machine

[long saddle]

ye

[strong gulch]

otherwise fast if you have a faster one and loading on your own

[plucky flax]

HDD gaming

[graceful arch]

I actually hate sitting around waiting 40 seconds for someone with a potato to stop loading.

[long saddle]

it's actually not even that bad when you get a ctd

if all goes well I'm back in like a minute

[graceful arch]

Honestly mourningstar should be a toggle, they could have had everything there from a simple menu

Would save me hours of loading

[strong gulch]

Hi. am potato

[long saddle]

i m m e r s i o n

[graceful arch]

I don't care

[strong gulch]

They should have practice puzzles in the mourning star

[graceful arch]

Bring back simple menu's instead of hub worlds

[zealous wing]

is 20s loading time really that fucking bad

[graceful arch]

It's nearly an arcade style game anyways.

[zealous wing]

have we gotten so impatient that 20s is inexcusable?

[long saddle]

I mean anything to do in mourningstar would be nice

[deft stump]

For some, it can take 15 mins before error.

[long saddle]

my only loading problem is when you get the synching data shit when losing a mission early or something

[graceful arch]

Fuck just keep the mourningstar loaded in the background and let you load in without syncing players it would make the load times like 5 seconds

[zealous wing]

well ye but thats fs error and the team would be waiting anyway

[deft stump]

Cos someone in the lobby failed to load you.

[long saddle]

that's unskippabale and all other teammates had already quit on death

ppl need to stay and die when you lose

only annoying part of playing auric maelstrom with all the ASS cheesers

[graceful arch]

Do people even bother doing that still?

[zealous wing]

yes

[deft stump]

Some think it still works.

[zealous wing]

does it not?

[long saddle]

it worked when I did it this year

I've redeemed myself since

[graceful arch]

I did it legit like first try.

[mighty cipher]

I did it back when it was still 5

[long saddle]

it still is?

[graceful arch]

I mean it's still 5.

Exemplar is 10

[mighty cipher]

Wait what

[zealous wing]

and thats normal auric not mael

[deft stump]

I accidentally did it first 5 auric mael.

[strong gulch]

But FS said they fixed it; so it must be true. /s

[graceful arch]

The problem with auric maels is any disabler is insta death with how scared teamates are touching a netted/down player and how allergic they are to shoot dogs.

[mighty cipher]

Honestly the regular Auric one is harder simply due to mission count. More susceptible to random bullshit deaths.

[long saddle]

I got better after I did havoc and then returned to auric maelstrom

[plucky flax]

I thought I helped you with that?

[graceful arch]

Just do 10 mission aurics

They have so few specials and elites

[deft stump]

Half. I did first two with vet mains.

[plucky flax]

Whatever the one that you don't go down/die.

[graceful arch]

It's a cake walk

[long saddle]

I don't notice that really and I p much only play maelstrom

[plucky flax]

So you just stayed behind me and I killed everything.

Ez afk

[deft stump]

That was auric exemplar from memory.

[plucky flax]

I dunno I didn't try for any of those auric penance just got them all through normal play.

When auric/maelstrom was hardest difficulty it was sad time. Game was so easy and boring.

[long saddle]

I got the atoma's elite guard just by chance at least

[plucky flax]

Auric is just free win if there's 1/1.5 decent player.

[long saddle]

yes, me

[plucky flax]

Not me I get carried by Karien.

[marble crater]

Jump puzzles?

[strong gulch]

The auspex ones.

BUT NOW I WANT THESE JUMP PUZZLES.

[marble crater]

Hi Karien

Stop starring at people, it's rude

[royal totem]

oh

Karien is staring again

[marble crater]

Is there a discord server for every genshin character?

[deft stump]

Only the popular or niche popular ones.

[royal totem]

i think i need Karien to carry my vet 😛

[marble crater]

So only the hot ones

[deft stump]

Not really. Some aren't of age btw.

[royal totem]

Chaos says Karien is the carry so therefore Karien is the carry 😛

[deft stump]

Chaos is the carry.

[marble crater]

Hot and cute ones

[deft stump]

And female.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/obviously-snape-harry-potter-gif-5508473

[long saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/klee-war-crime-gif-23774016

[marble crater]

Are there female genshin characters that aren't hot or cute?

[deft stump]

There are more missing male char Discords ratio wise.

[marble crater]

Because people don't care about men

[royal totem]

i want to join a 20+ havoc on my vet but i'm afraid i will get flamed ._.

[marble crater]

Just don't play badly

[royal totem]

silly shovel+plasma gun build

that's like telling me to not be me

[marble crater]

Just git gud

[deft stump]

And the catering to male gaze as a majority.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494865

[royal totem]

i can't git gud 🙁

[marble crater]

If there were more women who played because of hot male characters they would also get more hot male characters in their games

[royal totem]

i'm just perma bad player

[deft stump]

Then again, I like hot female chars so... herp.

[deft stump]

Just keep playing.

[burnt frigate]

Same. I've plateaued at my ping.

[royal totem]

i was going to type something but then i realized i'd out myself too hard

[burnt frigate]

tell on yourself

you know you want to

[deft stump]

Play at high ping then go back to low ping.

[royal totem]

self-preservation says i shouldn't out myself

[burnt frigate]

Heresy vs Auric, basically.

[deft stump]

Wot.

[deft stump]

Not really. High ping heresy is still easier than low ping auric at times.

[burnt frigate]

Not with flames.

It's just dodging working vs not working.

[deft stump]

What flames?

[deft stump]

It still might work, just gotta get lucky+precog.

[burnt frigate]

Inferno staff plays well on any difficulty for me. It's just the ping spikes either causing me to drop from dmg or specialists, or I'm 2004/2014ing around tencent servers.

[marble crater]

Because you like women

[deft stump]

Oh, that staff. I just got used to being last one alive on any ping on heresy on any class.

[deft stump]

Yes, and?

[royal totem]

i pretty much only play havoc on EU

[plucky flax]

Same

[marble crater]

And nothing, I like them too

[plucky flax]

I like men

[zealous wing]

omg same

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-minecraft-calling-gif-12355236

[plucky flax]

Thats why I do gayming

[deft stump]

Aren't we all bad?

[zealous wing]

you arent

[plucky flax]

You're pro

[zealous wing]

you are a pillar of emotional support at the very least

[marble crater]

I'm not bad either, because of console auto aim

[deft stump]

What autoaim?

[marble crater]

Yes

[zealous wing]

darktide has an autoaim setting on be default

[deft stump]

The thing that'll get you killed on uprising?

[royal totem]

we all need to play more with Karien for moral support

[deft stump]

We know. The joke is most ppl turn it to light or off asap.

[marble crater]

And it's awful, probably why so many console players play worse, unironically

[austere warren]

Do tide games have a 180 button for controller?

[zealous wing]

it was off instantly for me, before even playing the rest of the tutorial prologue

[deft stump]

Uhhh, wot?

[strong gulch]

As a man enjoyer, I'd rather look at pretty women if there's only premade models / sprites.

I swear games are too scared to give men a cake and thighs unless the game is a small project.

[zealous wing]

in VC you sound very kind, makes us feel calmer

[strong gulch]

I like women too, so I guess that's that. lmao

[deft stump]

Wot?

[zealous wing]

wdym wot

[deft stump]

Last I heard, ppl said too loud.

[marble crater]

Number 1 reason why guys play female characters, if I have to stare at an ass for 100 hours then...

[zealous wing]

PFF

[marble crater]

Also make character pretty for cutscenes

[zealous wing]

if they find you too loud thats what discord volume control is for

[deft stump]

No, the other meaning of loud.

[zealous wing]

what other meaning of loud

[marble crater]

Cyberpunk never really showing you your character is almost a crime, if it wasn't such a great choice for immersion

Yeah, what other meaning of loud is there other than being too loud?

[deft stump]

Abrupt, noisy, irritating, in your ears.

[zealous wing]

NO

:(

lies

[deft stump]

Is why ppl don't want VC anymore.

[zealous wing]

rude asf people then with no taste

[marble crater]

I didn't want to VC since the beginning, I am built different

[deft stump]

You know some of them are here, right?

[marble crater]

Good, they can see that they are rude then I guess?

[royal totem]

i just don't like to VC cuz i always say something stupid

[zealous wing]

if they've said your voice is annoying in any manner, fuck if they're here or not >:(

[royal totem]

i insult people by accident

and then i just want to kms

[marble crater]

You want to use kilometers?

[deft stump]

I just panic at every trapper noise.

[zealous wing]

a valid response

[royal totem]

i go "oh no" at every trapper noise

[marble crater]

Just dodge

[deft stump]

Do it at 300-400 ping.

[zealous wing]

if i VC, i either get super mega chatty, or just dont talk anyway

it concerns friends when i switch from chatty to silent

[marble crater]

You do it at 300 ping, I don't have 300 ping

[deft stump]

You chat? I think the only time you did was by accident, heh.

[zealous wing]

i chat just not here

might some day

[marble crater]

Because Hexis doesn't like the people here

[royal totem]

i only chat with potato and ninja

they're the only ones that put up with me

[deft stump]

It was in dms even so private lul.

[zealous wing]

honestly beans and dom are two of the most likely canidates, tho and karien ofc because karien already heard my dumbass self

[deft stump]

To be fair, I legit play just once a week now.

Or more if need more tries.

[marble crater]

To carry Chaos in h40

So kind to play just for that

[royal totem]

Hexis doesn't want to chat with me? 🙁

[deft stump]

Complete accident lul.

[zealous wing]

i still think i should have gone and crashed their vc where beans had to change nickname to "the party is FULL"

would have been fucking hilarious

"hey is the party full?"

[zealous wing]

maybe one day, its definitely something i gotta ease into whenever i join a new community

[royal totem]

it's ok. i avoid VC generally

[zealous wing]

too self conscious

[royal totem]

fair

i'm a person with few friends cuz i don't really trust people

[deft stump]

I just barge in with "VC?".

[zealous wing]

the confidence we all wish we had

[quiet inlet]

Yes, I'd love a vegetarian churro. Thanks!

[deft stump]

More, easier for me. Typing is hard on controller lul.

[royal totem]

if people ask me to VC most of the time i just ignore them

Dont stare at me ._. @deft stump im just self-conscious of how ugly my voice sounds

[marble crater]

Surely most people hate listening to their own voice?

Maybe not singers, or they just hear it so much that they got used to it as well

[deft stump]

I mean, I hate myself completely as well. Why do you think I enjoy RPGs and Roleplaying?

[marble crater]

Because it's fun

[strong gulch]

I have a really nice voice.

But it gives me dysphoria sometimes.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

btw, I haven't heard any voice that registered as "bad" or "unpleasant" in VC

There's been some weirdos, but they are blocked now.

[royal totem]

I sound like a dying whale

[deft stump]

Yes, but still.

[strong gulch]

Maybe to yourself. I didn't hear it and I have sensitive hearing (even after time in the navy).

[deft stump]

Self voices be that way. I sound too deep to myself. Too rough, too grating.

[marble crater]

Over 10 years ago an old granny told me I have a nice voice while I was using the PA in the store
Still hate hearing my own voice though

[deft stump]

Kinda understand why some people say I'm like a boy.

[marble crater]

Yeah, because you like women

[deft stump]

But then others say I sound normal, just horrible pronunciation.

[deft stump]

We are talking voices.

[marble crater]

You like women's voices

[royal totem]

Dunno you sound like a human

[strong gulch]

That's odd. Never got a neutral or boyish quality from your voice.

Might be biased tho. My mom has a rather deep gravely voice. She famously "doesn't need a microphone" to talk over a loud room of people.

[marble crater]

We don't like gravely voices now? Did someone tell Emma Stone yet?

[deft stump]

I know that, we all sound human, right?

[royal totem]

Some ppl sound alien to me

[deft stump]

I dunno, is what I got from ppl over the years. Is either little boy or bleah sounding female or just normal depending.

[marble crater]

Little boy is whatever, there is a reason that many boys in anime and cartoons are actually voiced by women, bleah sounding female is just rude though

[royal totem]

I try to not be rude to Karien

[deft stump]

But it matches. I think I'm bleah as well.

[royal totem]

But im a rude person

[tulip kettle]

SuT is rude to everyne

[marble crater]

There is the rudest person of all, attacks me out of nowhere and for no reason

[tulip kettle]

vicious ad hominem attack achieved, back to gaming

[marble crater]

I have heard a few bleah voices over the years, yours is not among(us) them

[tulip kettle]

also karien, you sound like an asian woman. nothing annoying or grating. Big yapper though, like me sometimes 🙂

[strong gulch]

DOM

hi

[tulip kettle]

ello 🙂

[marble crater]

Karien and Dom in a group, help us all

[tulip kettle]

i saw new class and decided to lay low for a couple days while everyone copes and seethes

[marble crater]

Which one did you do?

[tulip kettle]

both

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-boop-gif-6600341460677478129

[marble crater]

One Frame Man

Look at this shit

[deft stump]

Maybe nowadays I do. But heh, got used to the misgendering for years that wasn't helped by liking the female form.

[deft stump]

Wot?

[marble crater]

The Big Yappening

[deft stump]

I think psyker mains has been somewhat stable to the release of info. General though, lul.

[deft stump]

You should join us.

Maybe you'll chat as well.

[marble crater]

good joke

[strong gulch]

I heard Sut before. I'm lucky.

[marble crater]

Indeed

If Karien wants to hear my voice so bad she can just watch the AgentChaos video

[strong gulch]

Rip

Caught on video.

[tulip kettle]

sut is in a video?

which?

[marble crater]

I can look for it, but I don't talk much there either

[tulip kettle]

oh its not like, on your onlyfans or something?

[marble crater]

No, sorry

[tulip kettle]

[strong gulch]

$5 to hear sut say "hi"

[deft stump]

He was. Not much though sadly.

[marble crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z0_-htEHFg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDRq02bAbgo&
Second one should be the one with a few words from me

[zealous wing]

just wait til i start yapping to. no rest for your eardrums

[deft stump]

So, three of us and Sut. Good team comp, yes?

[zealous wing]

honestly probably

just dont put me in a role that you will all absolutely die without

so, bubble probably

[marble crater]

Please don't do this to me

[fringe harbor]

is voidblast good on stims + pink? i got an h28 with the homies soon

not sure what to run

maybe disrupt destiny melee + smite?

[deft stump]

I dunno. I have 300+ ping so... XD

[royal totem]

@zealous wing ive evolved

From tacaxe to shovel

[tulip kettle]

i have literally never heard you talk

[verbal thistle]

idk, he sounds Norwegian

[marble crater]

All the Norwegians I have talked to were yappers (I have talked to one)

[verbal thistle]

I only know of Albino

[royal totem]

All the Germans i know talk a lot :3

[ripe obsidian]

Every Norwegian I have met, bar one, has been pretty reserved

[marble crater]

Lies

[floral wedge]

I wish my assail charged faster than 2 seconds so I could spam more after quelling by smacking things a bunch

[royal totem]

that would be OP 😛

[floral wedge]

I didn't say it was a good idea

Just that I wanted it so I could have my peril going all over the place faster

[zealous wing]

ye only one here who's heard me talk is karien, which was by accident because i forgot dm calls unmuted your mic (i regularly toggle push to talk now when im done talking with friends)

[marble crater]

Exposed

[hallow finch]

I'm assuming that the dump stat on blaze sword is mob

[strong gulch]

wr

[marble crater]

Assumed wrong

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-5000k-gif-20880260

[zealous wing]

WR on everything except under very specific circumstances or voidSTRIKE

[floral wedge]

Interesting

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/eahu1ipnfpg

[hallow finch]

Rad

Perks n blessings for said blaze sword?

[marble crater]

Sigh, I saw the shitty thumbnail and thought "Surely the song will actually be awesome" how wrong I was

[zealous wing]

which one

all three marks are basically entirely different weapons

[hallow finch]

Uhh, I was thinking either deimos or obscurus

Idk which one is better

I'm gonna try it out because I hate how DS plays

Boring ass weapon

[zealous wing]

deimos for knocking crushers on their ass, obscurus for singletarget but slightly better hordeclear if you want a more utility weapon

[marble crater]

Deimos if you don't want to break your hands

[zealous wing]

ye obscurus combos are harder to learn than deimos'

[strong gulch]

I love it, but I love cheese whizz and we all know that is garbage. Tasty tasty garbage.

[marble crater]

We don't all know that, what the hell is cheese whizz

[tulip kettle]

american yellow dyed plastic in a can they falsely label as cheese

it is pretty tasty though

[zealous wing]

"cheese flavoured product"

[strong gulch]

It's in a lot of korean street food.

[marble crater]

Maybe we can shoot all American food into the sun?

"food"

[strong gulch]

Also note, that American Cheese is real cheese and Kraft singles is processed cheese food often mislabeled as amiercan cheese.

[zealous wing]

isnt kraft singles like, 51% cheese?

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/philly-cheesesteak-sandwich-sandwich-food-cheese-sauce-gif-2862279892703846794

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-eat-goofymovie-gif-5922272

https://tenor.com/view/add-in-a-block-of-cheese-outlaws-put-in-the-cheese-cooking-making-cheese-sauce-gif-21784989

[hallow finch]

Okay, so what are the perks n blessings for obscurus?
Also, should I be pairing it up with voidblast/fire staff? Idk if it got good boss dmg

[marble crater]

Maybe "made with 51% cheese" only 2% cheese, but those 2% where made with 51% cheese

[zealous wing]

if you want boss damage your better bet is something like FGS

[strong gulch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/458273695442403328/1004451329726480495/Cheesz_Whiz.gif

[hallow finch]

Are y'all talking about plastic cheese

[zealous wing]

but you want uncanny

2nd blessing is playstyle dependant

[hallow finch]

I have fgs with bolt pistol on other class

Or setup

Whatever

[marble crater]

Looking at this gave me a heart burn

[hallow finch]

In my country, the plastic cheese that people use in burgers n shit is called "cheese-like product"

[zealous wing]

basically, yeah though, if your builds secondary is for horde dealing, you want singletarget for muties or dog etc, though specific perks im not 100% on for between VB and inferno

brain no worky

[strong gulch]

If want deimos to pair with inferno or VB go

cara + unyielding

uncanny + deflector / superiority (superiority is particularly good for inferno)

same for obscurus

[hallow finch]

I don't really

Deflector

Oh it has block cost reduction

[zealous wing]

ye

even if not using it for bullets its nice, and besides, a nice little backpocket tool just in case

[hallow finch]

I initially wanted to use slaughterer and uncanny

I'm fucking broke

0 plasteel

0 diamantine

[zealous wing]

f

[hallow finch]

5k dockets

[zealous wing]

i wish i could give you some dia/plas

[hallow finch]

Fucking brunt

[zealous wing]

ive got literally too fuckin much

ordo tho i need

[strong gulch]

If you're going to main deimos or obscurus, then

cara + unyielding

uncanny + slaughter (and maybe superiority)

[hallow finch]

What was superiority

Im in a game rn and cant look it up atm

[tulip kettle]

+str on elite kill

stacks 3 times

stacks decay individually

[mighty cipher]

There’s a bug going around that INSTANTLY kills you on perils rather than downing right?

[tulip kettle]

thats fixed

it was due to crystalline will

there is another bug tha does it actually but its very rare and idk how to reproduce it

[mighty cipher]

Well I just had it happen

[tulip kettle]

bad one.

[hallow finch]

Is illisi any good

[tulip kettle]

its... fine

theres no real reason to use it over FGS

FGS is just better illisi

[mossy hazel]

What’s the difference between Deimos and Obscuros… or rather, is there a difference beyond moveset?

[hallow finch]

I just did 2100 dmg with force push on deimos

[tulip kettle]

thats it, the move set

[hallow finch]

[tulip kettle]

nope

the push does 1 dmg

you procced KF

[hallow finch]

Maybe it was brainburst

[hallow finch]

Damn why tf 2nd heavy of deimos knocks down crushers

[quick tulip]

Inferno dump is burn right?

[strong gulch]

no

WR

[quick tulip]

huh

[royal totem]

damn. i missed the good cheese convo

what a shame

[quick tulip]

well... is there a minimum WR I want besides 60? lol

[hallow finch]

Wdym

[royal totem]

some people argue as low as possible but it depends on comfort level 🙂

[verbal thistle]

Deimos has easy to access single and horde clear moves. Obscurus leans heavily on single target

[hallow finch]

I mean

You upgrade it

To full

And that's it

[royal totem]

ok 20 is 99% too low unless you're super comfy with that

[quick tulip]

lol

[royal totem]

i've heard people keep it around 47 or something though

[strong gulch]

Keep it. If you want more make a new one.

[royal totem]

but it's comfort level. mine is 60 since i'm a bad player

[strong gulch]

You want WR that allows to you shriek at 85% peril (default UI) or higher quickly.

That could be 20% WR.

It could be 40%.

It could varry by build and havoc or non havoc.

[royal totem]

basically want to line it up with your shriek CD

and all

[strong gulch]

Lower % WR is harder to get.

60% is easy to get.

Note on deimos vs obscurus.

Deimos has more CC because the H2 can knock even crushers over; BUT not everyone likes or wants that. After they've been heavy stagged like that, they get stagger immunity and you can't dodge an enemy on the ground (so on dodge talents and blessings get stiffed).

Also makes heads harder to hit again if you have weakspot related stuff/

Obscurus dosn't have that CC.

So different flavors to suit different needs or tastes.

[royal totem]

knowledgable potato as always

[wraith sphinx]

final stretch

[languid furnace]

Noice
You got this

[languid furnace]

God DAMN what a hell of a roll

[languid furnace]

Both are inferior to Velveeta

[strong gulch]

Velveeta is in that plastic cheese category.

Not comparable to real cheese.

[languid furnace]

Honestly joking aside I feel like that’s an insult to plastic 😅😅😅

At least it’s not spray-cheez

[strong gulch]

The slight jiggle that a block of velveeta has tho. Oof. 😭

[zealous wing]

flahsbacks to when my spouse thought "plastic rice" meant literal plastic pellets mixed with real rice and not, cheaper rice mixed with expensive rice to increase profits on said expensive rice

[royal totem]

i can't eat most cheeses

[wraith sphinx]

sometimes, I dream about cheese

[royal totem]

your spouse is very logical. i would think the same too if i never read about it

[languid furnace]

@modest patrol you must come and defend the honor of Velveeta

[strong gulch]

I shouldn't eat cheese.

[languid furnace]

Honestly same 😅

[languid furnace]

I shouldn’t either but I do anyway. It’s always painful afterward but it’s worth it

[zealous wing]

it got so bad he thought ALL rice was at risk of having actual plastic pellits and always threw away the floating ones 😭

he is so sweet and i love him

but sometimes i just 😭

[hallow finch]

I hate that

[languid furnace]

It could be worse
I scrubbed a cast iron skillet with dish soap and steel wool once
Thought I was doing my mom a favor

[hallow finch]

And velveeta

[royal totem]

are you.......lactose intolerant?

[marble crater]

Don't tell him about baby oil

[zealous wing]

he is gullible

a friend told him vampire camels were real

[royal totem]

there's nothing inherently wrong with that as long as you season it after

[strong gulch]

Ye. Mine isn't super bad but it's not great either.

[languid furnace]

“Season” was not a word that ever got used with regard to food in that house 😅😅

[marble crater]

Vampire... camels?

[zealous wing]

after vampire camels were revealed to indeed not exist it took so much convincing to tell him what animals are actaually real, like the platypus

[royal totem]

oh ._. i can only eat aged cheese and parm

[strong gulch]

vampire bat

[languid furnace]

I swear mine has gotten worse over the years, like, in my early 20’s when I was a gym rat I’d literally go through a gallon of milk a day
Now I can’t even have a cup of yogurt unless I take Lactaid with it

[royal totem]

you can imagine how eating out with me is 🙁 (a terrible experience)

[hallow finch]

It's the 2nd time I die mid dodge to a sniper

[strong gulch]

Felt. Mine is that bad, but I swear it's worse.

[royal totem]

i carry around Lactojoy tablets with me everywhere

[languid furnace]

HA, that’s the same brand my girlfriend and I use

[strong gulch]

I swear something is up with the dodge timings that isn't just ping issue.

[marble crater]

Fine as long as you don't have a girlfriend
I will see myself out

[zealous wing]

i cant even elaborate.

vampire.... camels

[strong gulch]

#FartOnTheFirstDate

[languid furnace]

Only real ones will understand

[royal totem]

it's the best

[royal totem]

errr idk i have a wife. lol

i don't get the joke if there was one

[zealous wing]

i have weird lactose intolerance. i mostly just burp

spouse can always tell when ive had chocolate

[strong gulch]

I hope that's not my furture.

It likely is.

but pls no

[languid furnace]

Same
Although lately it’s been helped by the realization that NSAIDs like ibuprofen can make it worse

So yeah, taking around 1600mg of it every day for several years straight has probably…not helped the issue

[strong gulch]

cries in chronic pain

[marble crater]

I can't explain the joke with the actual name, so... eating out is an euphemism for something

Message was blocked, mods are prudes

[royal totem]

do you always have milk chocolate or something?

[languid furnace]

Oh GOD, yeah, I’m sorry. I used to wake up and take 800mg of ibuprofen+1000mg of Tylenol, then do the same again at lunch time.
Meds in the work first aid cabinet are free, new boots are expensive, and bills don’t pay themselves

[royal totem]

can you guys not nearly make me out myself twice in one day? T__T

[strong gulch]

I didn't get the joke either. Just realizing that now. lmao

[marble crater]

I honestly lost track of who outed themselves an who didn't a long time ago

Not any of my business and I also don't care

[strong gulch]

Repairable boots being expensive.

Cheap boots also expensive but not as much but are fecking destroyed so quickly. "Back in my day" things lasted longer.

[marble crater]

Being poor is expensive

[languid furnace]

I have good ones (red wings) but I really need to have them re-soled or replace them. It’s pure hell being on my feet all day but I just don’t have the money right now, so, to hell with it, painkillers it is
But honestly I don’t wanna be a downer in a game chat, it is what it is, I’m lucky to have what I have

[marble crater]

There are noobs and smykers in this chat, we are used to downers

[languid furnace]

Exactly
They’re cheap, but they come apart after a month and hurt your feet
So you end up spending way more having to replace them more quickly, and that’s not even getting into the costs associated with being hurt or injured (here in the USA, at least)

[zealous wing]

freia melkesjokolade specifically

irresistably delicious

[marble crater]

Very Scandinavian

[strong gulch]

When minimalism was making the rounds as the way to live and set up your space and anyone who have ever not been able to afford things were like, yeah... that's cute. Get things as you need them doesn't equal when you can.

[modest patrol]

I am late to this

[mossy hazel]

Oh man… I don’t take NSAIDS anymore. Not at all, unless it’s in a hospital setting and I don’t have another good option. Really fucked up my GI for a while.

Switched from them to acetaminophen as my go to (bad) headache meds.

[strong gulch]

I hope you can get them resoled.

but then that means you would have to have another pair of boots anyways.

rip to your feet

[hallow finch]

Imagine not tolerating lactose

[zinc phoenix]

Carhartts are a third of the price and mine have lasted me through many years of heavy daily use

[royal totem]

i have very bougie taste in chocolate ._.

[hallow finch]

I don't have to

I just suffer the consequences

[languid furnace]

Thank you!! I hope your chronic pain improves as well

[zealous wing]

if you can, get norwegian chocolate. youll never go back

[languid furnace]

Same lol

[mossy hazel]

Do tell. I’m hooked on this fucking Icelandic shit.

[zinc phoenix]

Also, abuse of Tylenol and nsaids can cause serious gut damage

[strong gulch]

we can dream

[languid furnace]

I didn’t know they made boots, maybe I’ll get a pair

[royal totem]

i only get my chocolate from small batch craft chocolate makers

[hallow finch]

Don't give a flying fuck, I eat my cereals with a box of milk and drink me coffee with heavy cream

[royal totem]

there's a small batch maker near me that buys beans and makes it into bars.

[hallow finch]

Time in toilet is paid time at work

[mossy hazel]

damn

Bougie af. Respect

[royal totem]

also, i know how to make chocolate from bean to bar myself (and have done it a few times)

[languid furnace]

“Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that’s why I shit on company time”

[zinc phoenix]

Read the warnings on the labels before taking drugs unless you like side effects like “death”

[strong gulch]

A group of lactose intolerant people will destroy a thing of ice cream and themselves.

it's law

[zealous wing]

speaking of tho the fuckin inflation is hitting like a truck on chocolate over here. 200g for 25nok? 5 bars for 100? not anymore, lucky to get 100/150 for 40nok

[hallow finch]

Yessir

[hallow finch]

I can destroy that myself

[languid furnace]

Are you telling me I shouldn’t use aerosol brake cleaner to clean this cut out, and then seal it with super glue?

Sus

[hallow finch]

What's nok

[zealous wing]

(100nok is about 10USD)

[royal totem]

chocolate is very expensive now 🙁

[zealous wing]

Norwegian Kroner

[hallow finch]

Thought so

[zinc phoenix]

I eat chocolate maybe twice a year so I haven’t noticed the price 😂

[rough trellis]

just make chocolate probably cheaper

[zealous wing]

my spouse made fun of me for having a huge tub of various candies and chocolate bars saved up, welll LOOK AT ME NOW! i saved us money in the end

seriously i have like 40kg of candy in a giant tub

[hallow finch]

I was never crazy about chocolate so I don't mind that

[royal totem]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. oh wait. you're serious. let me laugh even harder HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[hallow finch]

Although seeing a chocolate bar cost like 10-25 (sometimes up to 35) is pretty crazy

[rough trellis]

tf you need that much candy for

[zealous wing]

myself, duh

[hallow finch]

I hoard candy as well

[rough trellis]

40kg...

[strong gulch]

I am not a chocolate person.

I live in america tho... so there may be a correlation.

[modest patrol]

Relatable

[languid furnace]

My condolences

[zealous wing]

buy it while its cheap, enjoy it guilt free when its expensive

[rough trellis]

buying in bulk tho actually not a bad idea tbh

[zinc phoenix]

You can get really nice chocolate here

[modest patrol]

Though I do get chocolate cravings and I love the Schär twin bars

[hallow finch]

I don't understand that tbh

[zealous wing]

its not just chocolate tho btw

[modest patrol]

I call them fake Kit Kats

[hallow finch]

Oh wait doesn't murica have the shitty sour chocolate

[zealous wing]

id never get through that much chocolate before it went bad

[languid furnace]

No, that’s our beer

[hallow finch]

That tastes like it's spoiled

[zealous wing]

its mostly sour candies, hard candies, etc, stuff that keeps pretty well

[hallow finch]

Is there anything good about murica

[zinc phoenix]

Like with everything we have the cheap version and the expensive version. Europe just makes the cheap stuff illegal 😂

[hallow finch]

No like

I was stocked about trying hersheys

[modest patrol]

Good shit with Dutch chocolate

[zealous wing]

i think so, got my hands on a twix to try and it tasted stale as fuck 😭

[languid furnace]

No

[hallow finch]

And it turned out to be the worst fucking chocolate bar I've ate

[royal totem]

sure if you get like Hersheys or such

[zealous wing]

got a kitkat too and its so shit

[zinc phoenix]

Why? It’s a mass market brand that sells a pretty standard low cost chocolate

[mossy hazel]

I get Om Nom from Reykjavik. Shit the is 🔥

[austere warren]

Oh yeah. Hershey sucks

[zealous wing]

kvikk lunsj is superior

[rough trellis]

owning guns?

[hallow finch]

They use that

[zealous wing]

[mossy hazel]

Even US “good” chocolate is … eh.

[hallow finch]

Milk that tastes spoiled

[zinc phoenix]

Hersheys the product is meh, hersheys the company is awesome

[languid furnace]

Ha, nice try ATF man

[rough trellis]

hehe

[hallow finch]

I like milka

Basic and cheap

[modest patrol]

Ritter Sport bars…

[hallow finch]

But it's miles better

Cant remember whether it's a polish brand or not

[austere warren]

If your palette is already used to other shit Hershey isn't gonna be a good time.

[royal totem]

i like Dandelion Chocolate

[hallow finch]

Oh milka is swiss

[zealous wing]

fatshark please fucking give us something to spend plasteel and diamantine on JFC

[royal totem]

for anybody that wants the math by the way it takes 400-450 beans to make a pound of chocolate which is.......a LOT of beans

[zinc phoenix]

All the mass market chocolate is pretty bad. Unless a boutique chocolatier is making it it’s pretty much just gonna be some form of cheapo schlock

[hallow finch]

Idk how I would live in america tbh
The oj is sweet as hell I heard
Chocolate sucks
Sodas are legit radioactive (fanta lol)
Everything edible has stuff that's usually illegal in eu

What else

Plastic bread everywhere

[rough trellis]

fr we need more shit for arbites

[languid furnace]

You don’t want to come here, believe me

[zealous wing]

hive scum isnt gonna even put a dent in this

[languid furnace]

My girlfriend and I are trying to get out of here as soon as we can

[rough trellis]

havoc themed fit would be nice

[zinc phoenix]

People who only eat at the Walmart be like 😂

[zealous wing]

like honestly give us like, a 1k to 1 exchange for aquila or some shit, SOMETHING

[royal totem]

my plan for surviving in America is planning to leave it

[hallow finch]

I absolutely don't want to. Maybe once for sightseeing, other than that naur.
My prime no about the country is that an argument on the sidewalk can get me gunned down

[modest patrol]

I at least leave Walmart, you’re eating at Walmart?

[rough trellis]

sitting on 7.5mil ordo just investing

[strong gulch]

The way most countries will refuse taking autistic and disabled people.

[languid furnace]

Look, I’m not fancy enough for Walmart, this is a Dollar General household

[austere warren]

Well if you got money and aren't a minority group of any kind in any variety of combinations enough, you'll be mostly fine.

Shit that is just better quality at the lower level for popular kinds of junk food are priced much higher on average

[zealous wing]

ordo i fuckin use

[hallow finch]

I never was to walmart
Honestly, the cheap bread in eu is the expensive one you buy in murica

[zealous wing]

plasteel and dia i also use but not faster than i get it

[languid furnace]

Yeah, gunned down and then stuck with a lifetime of debt from the ride to the hospital

[hallow finch]

I hate the plastic bread

[royal totem]

honestly though

i could be in a worse part of America

[hallow finch]

Oh right, murican healtcare

[royal totem]

like in a worse state

[hallow finch]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[modest patrol]

Ngl my friend
All of my groceries are unfortunately the ‘expensive’ variety because I have Coeliac disease

[hallow finch]

Imagine fucking

[royal totem]

aso i guess i'm kinda glad about that

[rough trellis]

I have nothing to spend that stuff on already got most of the weapons maxed with their builds and shi, maybe I need to touch grass and feel the warm embrace of a women until they release shi idk.

[hallow finch]

Investing so much from taxes into military instead of anything else that actually would make sense

[languid furnace]

“Healthcare,” yeah, exactly

[zinc phoenix]

Where did you go in the US? Detroit’s projects? 😂

[zealous wing]

i like leveling new psykers then when they hit 30 or so i delete them

[modest patrol]

That’s true in the suburbs of Washington DC

[hallow finch]

Why have healthcare when you can have bajillion of people refusing medical treatment and just dying on the sidewalk, habe people in massive debts they probably aint gonna pay anyway

[zinc phoenix]

“I’m a teenager reposting what I saw other people say”

[languid furnace]

Lmao what

[austere warren]

Detroit been hella gentrified and keeping getting worse in that department so plenty of places like a whole foods exist. Closer you are to the city in the first place is often much safer unless, again, you're part of any background the city is actually antagonistic to.

[rough trellis]

that's a whole different level of grind bro, early class levels are boring and annoying, at least for me.

[hallow finch]

I never was in usa
It's just that every single video I see from there, unless it's a bakery, I have never seen a non square (plastic) bread on the shelves

[zinc phoenix]

Stop snorting the brain rot and go outside

[strong gulch]

And debt gets passed onto family

[hallow finch]

Oh yeah I forgot about the american dream

Live in your bubble and say that your country is great, have a pleasant evening

[languid furnace]

I have lmao
He’s 100% right
YOU go outside lol

[zealous wing]

keeps me fresh on being a psyker, should do it with other classes but the other 3 base ones are pretty ass to me at the start, and arby just, is basically the same from start to finish

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s a solid city these days in the center but huge sections of it still look like fallout

[zealous wing]

i hope hive scum is at least a little similar to psykers process

id like to have options

[hallow finch]

The only cool thing about america are the sequoias, LA casinos and freedom memes

[rough trellis]

idk I feel like it's just gonna be a zealot reskin

[hallow finch]

Who tf watches baseball

[floral wedge]

Passing out laced stimms to the boys
Making sure they're always tweaked out and ready to beat everything to death

[zealous wing]

honestly i hope not zealot sucks ass

psyker melee is far superior

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t think they’re building with your particular playstyle in mind sorry to say. Regularly deleting characters to level them again is interesting but not common

[zealous wing]

i like mobility

[hallow finch]

I wanted to make a fbi joke but idk if it would be of taste

[hallow finch]

Y he got a gimp mask

[zealous wing]

i dont think you understand what i mean

[rough trellis]

haha

[floral wedge]

You're right. Ask the CIA to do it instead.

[strong gulch]

zealot

the math works

[austere warren]

It's solid if you're a commuter from the white flight suburbs since the city has been promoting a tourist economy at the cost of the primary residents. Whole city is covered in cameras, cops just hunt and arrest homeless people on top of just being pieces of shit. The standing energy company in the city annually plays with people's lives during winter on some corpo extortion shit, etc.

It's only really nice for the people who get the privilege to live "comfortably" or comfortably really.

[hallow finch]

I'm also kinda

[rough trellis]

zealot knife is fun

[hallow finch]

Bewildered that people live on foodstamps in usa

[zealous wing]

my playstyle is utility, and in your face melee frontline, releveling is just a pasttime to keep up skills on psyker i otherwise dont use much

[austere warren]

People are forced to find a way and they often can. Some under better circumstances than others.

[zinc phoenix]

I mean you just said it was pretty good there now you’ve decided it is actually Shadowrun??

[zealous wing]

psyker knife even more fun

[hallow finch]

I mean, no offence to absolutely anyone, people gotta eat
My point is, we had foodstamps during communism

[zealous wing]

knife, mettle, SG, DD, go zoom

[zinc phoenix]

Anyway when I visited a bunch of it was literally decaying houses and then the downtown was nice so I guess they’re trying

[zealous wing]

no one can keep up with me

[zinc phoenix]

I think that’s what they intend with scum, it sounds a lot like melee psyker from the description. Which I also like

[austere warren]

I'm talking about how multiple things can be true at the same time. It's pretty fucked there with how people get treated.

All the urban blight in the city is coming down from real estate mob activity the private and federal sectors maintain.

[hallow finch]

It's just sad that masses gotta resort to that

[strong gulch]

Good for some under certain circumstances doesn't mean good for all.

[zealous wing]

thats why im hopeful

i just hope its early game isnt, same as lvl 30 but strong now

like arby

[austere warren]

And again, for the privileged, Detroit is good. For the disenfranchised, it fucking sucks.

[rough trellis]

we can only hope

[zinc phoenix]

I mean yeah FDR really fucked this country’s real estate market by creating a fixed rate 30 year mortgage and pushing for zoning everywhere 🤷‍♀️

[hallow finch]

What's your bio from

[strong gulch]

[zinc phoenix]

It’s something Patton said

[hallow finch]

I remember either seeing or hearing it

[zinc phoenix]

You can look it up, it’s a direct quote

[rough trellis]

Australia is just as bad if not worse

[hallow finch]

Isn't real estate market fucked in pretty much every country rn

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah everyone decided it’d be great to make building illegal

Also the people who build homes are now illegal

[graceful arch]

Pretty much, turning housing into a commodity was a mistake.

[hallow finch]

I mean, there's no shit I'm buying a flat in this life, not even saying a house, and I just scrape by with how high rent and expenses are in the city

[zinc phoenix]

If I want to put up a shed in my backyard I have to apply for a zoning variance which is a multi year process with huge fees. I can also just buy a plastic shed at Home Depot and stick it out there and as long as I don’t fix it into the ground I’m good.

[hallow finch]

People charge 3500 a month + like 7k upfront + expenses

[rough trellis]

building supplies are just as bad almost as expensive as buying a house in general bro timber and shi being replaced with flimsy ahhh cheap steel just so chippies can put food on the table.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s illegal to rent you a room in a house in most cities so old people don’t rent rooms anymore

[graceful arch]

If I wanted to buy something fancy in the nearest city the loan would be higher than my wage pre tax.

[hallow finch]

Kekw

[graceful arch]

And I make more than 70% of people my age.

[hallow finch]

I like when the world is turning to absolute sheite when it's my time to be an adult

[graceful arch]

Easy to say most people are screwed.

[hallow finch]

I should have bought a house for a pack of cigarettes instead of being unborn

[zinc phoenix]

Im buuing a new construction home for 800, the monthly will be like 4k + some more. It’s in the middle of nowhere. Ten years ago houses like it went for 200k but now you couldn’t buy a shit filled shoebox for that price

[graceful arch]

Should have invested all my current live savings in stocks 20 years before I was born

[hallow finch]

Real

And old people be saying that it's our fault for not being able to afford a house

[austere warren]

Longstanding domestic policy is characteristic to the country and often mounts itself relevant to the times.

In Detroit's case, its city government that already utilized the inherent corruption the country enables would get taken over by a committee tasked with addressing the city's borked to shit economy following the new scale of routine economic collapse america plays with in the late 2000's.

They had full access to every avenue of the city's federal financing institutions and overriding authority on final decisions regarding policy. What followed was basically just a shitton of further gutting to public services and an intentional legal "reform" that allowed corporations to play around even more.

So, the city broadly "beautified" itself by privatizing as many things as soon as it could, displaced countless people while worsening those conditions for the most heavily impacted groups, increased budgets for law enforcement to enable greater reach and so on.

After they left, political figures aligned on the same kind of game pretty much kept course. They'd often posture with faux veneers of co-opted solidarity and progressive speech which corporations doing the same thing took advantage of.

[graceful arch]

I have saved up 1/10th of what I need to buy a shit place saving nearly half my wage for the last 5 years

[zinc phoenix]

I make more than 95% of households in this country and it’s hard for me to buy a house 😂

[rough trellis]

how much do you usually pay for an adult?

[graceful arch]

Easy to say I'll have property in 30 years if prices stay the same and my wage somehow keeps up with inflation.

[pure plinth]

is warp expenditure good on melee psyker with scrier's gaze?

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah

They changed everything so I might be wrong 😂

[hallow finch]

I'd have to work ~14 years on 240 hours months, saving my entire paycheck to afford a flat here

[hallow finch]

I've been awake for like 26 hours now, 'scuse me

[zinc phoenix]

23 an hour + gas

To watch the baby

[graceful arch]

Eh I could buy a place rn but loans etc aren't that appealing

[zinc phoenix]

I bought new construction because the builder bought down the rate to ~5% which… is still bad but much better

[rough trellis]

Do you live in a City?

[hallow finch]

I find it pretty fucking annoying that you gotta take a loan to buy anything

[zinc phoenix]

Look for new build, they’re offering deals because it’s hard to sell rn

[graceful arch]

No country side

Rural norway

Small coastal town population of 5k

[hallow finch]

Man I'd love to see norway

[graceful arch]

Easy to say I have atleast interacted with 5% of the people who live here at some point

[rough trellis]

Don't know if it's the same in norway but rural/countryside housing prices in au are like 50-60% cheaper, if you were a young single or couple it'd make sense to move inland, cheap and jobs are in demand especially trade related ones.

[graceful arch]

Problem is the place I live despite being rural is one of the richer places in the country

A lot of businesses are concentrated here.

[rough trellis]

prolly because it's next to the sea

[zealous wing]

we definitely got lucky living where we are

[zinc phoenix]

I know a guy who got hit by a bus in Norway 😂

[rough trellis]

I'm lucky my parents had brains and bought 3 houses before pricing went up 14-18 years ago

[jovial fox]

@sick heron my internet died

1 sec while I restart it and i'll be on again

Just realised wrong channel

[royal totem]

Lol

My beloved says.....purge heretics

[weary crane]

https://youtu.be/6NKtkVpaMHE

This plus invincible enemies

[rough trellis]

wasn't havoc reworked a while ago

[weary crane]

Yeah to be harder...

[rough trellis]

glad I got my havoc forged before it

[ornate hamlet]

same

[weary crane]

Many times in h40 the director will just spam bosses and hordes and you can't even get past the first bit

[dull scroll]

damage solves everything 😌

[weary crane]

I mean it wouldn't be that bad, but they is still bugs like targeting while in grab, trapper nets through walls of enemies

[rough trellis]

In carnival there is a few 'cheese spots' where bosses and melee mobs can't get you but don't know if they blocked the areas.

[weary crane]

Tox gas + blue stims = invincible

Doesn't matter what dmg you do

[ornate hamlet]

just speed run as invis zealot get havoc forged real quick

[rough trellis]

lovew getting netted through a barb wire fence

[dull scroll]

blue stims is a bit sus

[weary crane]

The horde density is so thick and you will literally have hordes of elites spawn right in front of you, blocking your path while in stealth

I've done it before

[dull scroll]

but good thing it's only 1 or 2 at most mobs popping that

everything else, trust big damage, always 😌

[ornate hamlet]

big dam works every time

[ripe obsidian]

For some enemies. Bulwarks, for example.

[royal totem]

Ragers

[weary crane]

Pretty much unstaggerable too

[zinc phoenix]

The devs are so committed to making the game unwinnable for the tippy top players that they’ve made havoc feel pretty boring 😂

So much of the gameplay is just not relevant in high havoc and idk why people keep going back for that

[zealous wing]

because they find it fun

just because you dont doesnt mean no one else finds it fun

[royal totem]

Cuz auric boring

[zinc phoenix]

Auric is pretty boring sadly

But there’s a happy medium between “literally unplayable meat wall” and “one enemy every five minutes”

[strong gulch]

blue stimmed bulwarks when you're alone are pure emotional damage

[royal totem]

Need the meme

[zealous wing]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[weary idol]

Despite the few bad modifiers (stimms, pox gas, pus hardened) I find a lot of the unique havoc modifiers provide interesting gameplay that aurics don't

I like rotten armor when it's not stimms

[burnt frigate]

If I'm rolling Blaze Away and Warp Nexus, and I want to try Penetrating Flame, which should I replace? Crit is so important for double stacks, but has anyone done the math on the +str to stats like burn? Is is worth losing the crit?

[weary idol]

even purple rotten armor is fine

[dull scroll]

what "gameplay" is not relevant in h40 lol

some builds/weapons maybe

[weary idol]

I don't think any weapon is truly unusable in hav 40 atm

Someone can make use out of it

At least one class can justify taking it for some reason or another

[zealous wing]

void strike

[candid temple]

Technically... You can use anything.

[pine shore]

the humble heavy sword

[zealous wing]

illisi

[weary idol]

fantastic horde clear as a sidearm for gun veteran

gun vet can easily kill carapace with bolter/helbore IV and never have to melee them

if it's not rotten armor

[pine shore]

heavy swords can't kill anything armored

and h40 is all flak

[weary idol]

heavy sword Should 2 tap hav 40 scab ragers iirc

it's only bad into carapace

not flak

dclaw is the one that's bad into flak

[potent echo]

Heavy sword vs crusher

[weary idol]

and even then Mk VII is workable into it

• has the parry

[dull scroll]

nothing is TRULY unusable, people cleared 40s with white weapons 😏

[pine shore]

what's even the point of dclaw anymore

[zealous wing]

infinite parry spam

[weary idol]

sidearm for builds that kill carapace with gun/blitz/ability

[potent echo]

Better cleave than DS

[pine shore]

for some reason ds now has the only redeeming quality of dclaw

[weary idol]

has vastly superior horde clear compared to ds

[zealous wing]

ds cant parry spam

[weary idol]

also that

[burnt frigate]

parry spam into peril rather than stamina is great.

[weary idol]

dclaw parry on zealot can also kill crushers

[pine shore]

why not

[dull scroll]

dclaw's parry is on a completely different lvl than ds'

[weary idol]

because fury rending

[zealous wing]

because you can get hit while parrying

[weary idol]

gotta practice the timing for it tho

[pine shore]

really?

[dull scroll]

you can parry spam your way out and kill 20 ragers with dclaw

[zealous wing]

long as theres no bullets in your way

[burnt frigate]

The timing is very generous it feels. Even on shit ping I get parries off.

[pine shore]

I don't play h40 rn cause they are dogshit, but on aurics I've been successfully spamming parry into like 7 ragers

[weary idol]

yeah dclaw you can straight just mash special and you're invincible

very strong on psyker because inf stamina

[burnt frigate]

Can't block bullets, but it can stop overheads.

[zealous wing]

tbf tho so can force weapons

[burnt frigate]

Pushpush

[zealous wing]

ye

[pine shore]

ds can stop overheads via killing crushers faster than they finish the attack

[burnt frigate]

I personally run Deimos 100% of the time because of pushpush.

[pine shore]

fair and balanced btw

[dull scroll]

ds got huge nerfed, this new special is dogshit compared to the old one

[pine shore]

on ds4 it's a lot better now

[zealous wing]

i often forget DS even has a parry

[pine shore]

on every other ds, old special was much better

[cursive tiger]

Voidstrike kinda fire why didn't anyone tell me

[pine shore]

they literally buffed the strongest ds and nerfed the weaker ones

[burnt frigate]

Voidstrike is fun.

[zealous wing]

because its fun but not great for long

[pine shore]

make the gap even bigger

Feels even more pointless to use something other than ds4

so I switched to knife for fast zoomies

[dull scroll]

VS used to be the king of staffs like inferno is now, a long time ago

[pine shore]

a long time ago?

[dull scroll]

they nerfed it to the ground now 😔

[pine shore]

It was literally during patch 13

That was, what, like a year ago?

[dull scroll]

longer

[cursive tiger]

I just use it to bowl the heretics lowk

[burnt frigate]

And then I started voidblastin'.

[zealous wing]

thats a different stave

[pine shore]

this staff does not exist

[potent echo]

Void used to eat crushers

And then it got nerfed (slightly)

[pine shore]

We have purgatus, surge, trauma and voidstrike

[potent echo]

And the crushers got buffed

[burnt frigate]

It still will throw a crowd of crushers on their asses. Great for armored modifiers.

[pine shore]

btw

if you were to use it for some reason

do you use surge

or flurry

[burnt frigate]

Just checked its on flurry right now

[potent echo]

Voidstrike I do flurry/surge

[zinc phoenix]

Rotted armor is the first new looking enemy in a while and they’re pretty blatant about using it to get people into havoc.

Meanwhile aurics still stuck with green glow and none of the new havoc modifiers that would work fine there

[weary idol]

yeah

brute conscripts for auric when

[pine shore]

how do you even proc surge

Sounds like the worst choice out of the 3

[wind spruce]

It's really not

[royal totem]

unlike you guys........i don't even remember DS's old special

[strong gulch]

The way I still try to stagger stuff with DS special.

Run up to a gunner and go "oh... right"

[royal totem]

i can't find a havoc tonight ._.

[potent echo]

True aim

Requires abit of micromanagement

Won't be as good as nexus if you play like a turret

[pine shore]

Smart

Never thought of that

[timber cairn]

not gonna name&shame but how do these pubs actually have a H40 in the first place?

it's like. Every game there's at least 2 sponges.

[timber cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-madison-wrong-nopoints-gif-7570725

[zealous wing]

this one is funny

1 environmental kill

[royal totem]

there's a lot to say but none of it worth saying lmao

[zealous wing]

in other news, i gotta make myself stay awake the next 5 hours or more :D

what havoc do you have? dunno if im capable of havoc but am curious

[royal totem]

why 5 hours or more? 😮

that sounds like hell

i'm not havoc capable today. just......not happy. and there's no reason for it either

[zealous wing]

grocery delivery

and if i sleep i sleep, there be no "naps"

if im out im also nigh impossible to wake up

[icy breach]

Yikes

[strong gulch]

funny

[royal totem]

oof that's hard 🙁

alright do i have 3 volunteers for suffering?

[nocturne wasp]

What brand?

[royal totem]

the really terrible type

i think it's garden and stims lol

[nocturne wasp]

I would say yes but it would be my first havoc and I don't think you want that much suffering

[royal totem]

somehow i always thought you were at havoc 40 ._. i guess i'm wrong

[nocturne wasp]

It's the thousands of hours in VT2 that make me seem like I know what I'm doing after 200 in DT

[royal totem]

ah you're probably better than me then lmao

what's your havoc?:

[nocturne wasp]

I haven't done it yet so I'm guessing 0?

[royal totem]

have you done auric maelstrom?

[nocturne wasp]

Nope

I don't even have auric on all my classes yet

I'm 95/100 for arb though

[royal totem]

ah i see

[graceful arch]

I got a company Xmas party today and I got like no sleep cause of work

I'm gonna have to force myself to stay awake later.

[royal totem]

🙁

forced socialization is bleh

[royal totem]

i take it you don't need help

[nocturne wasp]

I'll happily take it.
Game is always more fun in a party

[royal totem]

i'll play my luls vet

[graceful arch]

It's not forced, I'm fine with the Xmas party I just don't want work to completely fuck my sleep schedule the day of the thing happening

[royal totem]

ok i'm on

[graceful arch]

Like I'm going to arrive already sleep deprived

[royal totem]

ah 🙁 sleep deprivation isn't fun.

[strong gulch]

111

[graceful arch]

Well I'm used to it at this point

[royal totem]

congrats :3

[royal totem]

if you want to inv me feel free

we can see if i eat overheads luls

[graceful arch]

I had beaten havoc 40 on all my non zealot classes before I even unlocked auric on them.

Let that sink in

[nocturne wasp]

My mic isn't working for some reason

[royal totem]

no worries :3 i generally don't talk anyways

[royal totem]

you hate zealot?

[graceful arch]

No it was just my first class so I unlocked auric on it before beating havoc 40 on it

[royal totem]

ah i see 😮

[graceful arch]

I only played zealot for my first couple hundred hours in this game

[royal totem]

@nocturne wasp you can throw me in whatever you need lol

i can't beat havoc 40

it's an insurmountable wall

[nocturne wasp]

Train Mission

[royal totem]

if train is up i'll do train

unlike most people i actually like train lmao

[graceful arch]

My first ever 40 clear was undeserved but I felt I could do it so I party findered beat h40 on like attempt 2

[nocturne wasp]

I love it

[graceful arch]

Funsies

[royal totem]

see, you're good at this game

unlike me

all i do is derank

[graceful arch]

Oh I deranked from rank 34-26

[royal totem]

i'm really close to falling out of the 20s

i season highed at 27

[graceful arch]

I will climb back up but I just need some decent people on

[royal totem]

not me then lmao

[graceful arch]

I beat 40 in party finder the second week of season reset.

I am over critical of my own mistakes

I will make a missplay that will throw a clutch in h40 and I will blame myself for the loss.

Even though I know deep down that when you're put in a solo situation in a havoc 40 you can't always win.

[plucky flax]

You need karien

[graceful arch]

True

Can blame karien for not clutching instead smart.

I'm not reaching assignment rank 40 this season.

[nocturne wasp]

@royal totem Gg thx

[royal totem]

np 😄

[nocturne wasp]

Love how chaotic that mission is

[royal totem]

yeah

that went pretty well though

[nocturne wasp]

Also when crushers rotate 175 degrees to 1shot me

[strong gulch]

these unstable servers

i fecking can't

[royal totem]

yeah i saw that

[nocturne wasp]

Bro held his attack and baited my dodges

[royal totem]

i fail h20 clutches

[royal totem]

they always do that it feels like T__T

[strong gulch]

Getting overheaded when you mostly to the side and slightly behind the crusher

[nocturne wasp]

I mean my arb build is designed never to let them start in the first place, but I was getting pestered by a maniac

[graceful arch]

I've had maulers swipe at me with no animation wind up

Same with crushers

[royal totem]

yeah ragers are .....something

[graceful arch]

I'll just be push attacking for DPS and suddenly all my stamina is gone