psyker-class

[quartz barn]

Also fire damages through toughness, but dont know the interaction with golden toughness

And gas resist is eh unless you somehow plan to afk inside of it

[weary crane]

Yeah not being downed by a single bruiser hit in h40

[wind spruce]

Only barrel fire

[weary crane]

Might aswell not have a health bar atp

If your toughness break in h40 you're fucked

[quartz barn]

Me looking at a reaper for 0.05 seconds

[weary crane]

A bugged blue stimmed mauler sliding towards me to 1 shot me at full health and toughness:

[icy breach]

barrel fire & scab flamer tank explosion fire does; rest does not

[icy breach]

thats why TDR was always king over dmg; even now it is; your dmg & buffs will mean nothing if you die before you'll be able to utilize them

[icy breach]

sometimes you still get 2 - 3 ticks of dmg and considering average good toughness (~120) on any char it breaks fast in h40

tdr chorus prevents that

especially in narrow maps

[royal totem]

If team doesnt follow up

Which mine frequently dont

Id rather have TDR than more damage

[icy breach]

CORRECTION; it does apply on last pulse only; tooltip is wrong/not updated... sadly

which means... ending chorus prematurely is bad (i've met many ppl who stated its good to prematurely cancel chorus)

[tulip kettle]

i think the logic behind ending chorus early is that you dont gain any additional toughness after 5 ticks. With the description, you would assume that any team mates present for all 5 of those ticks would also get the buff. if thats not the case then yes it seems like you would always be better to full channel unless you really needed to cancel for some other reason

[marble crater]

The only reason I cancel chorus early is a wrong input

[tulip kettle]

and if you arent running either of the chorus modification talents then there is no real reason to channel past 5 if your team was in coherency, except to give another 2 seconds of disabled enemies for your team to do DPS while you dont do any DPS

[marble crater]

And because it's cool

[tulip kettle]

true

[royal totem]

hmmmmm

so you're saying it's worth saving a point there?

[tulip kettle]

i usually take niether of the modification nodes

if im going to take one, i take damage for my team

[royal totem]

maybe i'll try taking neither

[icy breach]

i mean you still stagger/suppress for those 2 extra pulses; CC is important

[tulip kettle]

i mainly see book as an extended duration VoC that disables enemies for the duration

[icy breach]

depends on the situation

[tulip kettle]

not disagreeing

[royal totem]

@icy breach take the point off of the TDR modifier for book or no?

[tulip kettle]

that just depends on how you will spend that point elsewhere

[icy breach]

i always included it in; since its introduction to the game

[tulip kettle]

if youre not spending it to make yourself more impactful in another way then keep it

i also think, in the current havoc modifiers, damage is usually better than tdr

but thats havoc specific and due to rot armour and stimms specifically

TDR means nothing when crusher go splat

clearing the crusher blob quicker means nobody goes splat

[royal totem]

well i mean it's realy about one of the two modifiers. it doesn't really matter if it's TDR or the other. the question is really "do i take the point that i'm using to modify book and place it elsewhere." so i guess i'll look at my options and such

or maybe i'll just post my tree here and let you guys pick it apart

[marble crater]

Chorus is so great by default that unlike with psyker shield it doesn't get much better with the add ons

[royal totem]

SuT is so great SuT needs to play damnation with me again 😏

[waxen jackal]

Hey would Infernus dumdum be the best for the heavy las pistol?

[icy breach]

Just checked; the augment buff from the book applies even if a teammate does not receive all pulses so long as they receive 6th or 7th pulse from the chorus

so ye; its better than dmg by a long margin due to that

cause unlike golden toughness the TDR portion stays the same and does not ramp up; once you get it its 40%

[icy breach]

its like meta yes

[icy breach]

disagreed

[marble crater]

About which part?

[icy breach]

true but main work comes from brittleness not dmg ramping up really; only exeption for that is vet with his/her ridiculous weakspot dmg modifiers

[waxen jackal]

Cool thanks, it's one of the few weapons i haven't tried so I'd thought I'd give it a shot

[icy breach]

augment part

[icy breach]

its like a knife in terms of mobility but ranged

[royal totem]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a057352b-8076-4045-98b2-7e8704a0303d/meme-3?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button here's my zealot build. feel free to pick it apart

[icy breach]

insane

[icy breach]

No duelist...
I will take you on the side now my dear and we're gonna have a talk... private talk... in a corner...

[tulip kettle]

what weapons is this for

[royal totem]

Thammer+c shotgun

[royal totem]

dunno what i'd remove for duelist lol

oh no. i've baffled people ._.

[tulip kettle]

you dont need shield of contempt or faithful frenzy

and tbh duellist is goated but with Thmmer its not necessarily essential

[royal totem]

the funny thing is i have duelist on my infiltrate build (which i'm pretty sure is also a bad build) just not on my prayer

ok if i don't take those two, what should i take instead

[tulip kettle]

this is what i run, but with duelling sword and bistol

if i as going to run flamer i would swap flame nades for throwing knives

you could drop the 3 nodes on the bottom left to put more into elsewhere

with hammer maybe more like this, but idk im not a zealot main or anything

[royal totem]

hmmm ok i changed it a little.

[mossy hazel]

Hey folks. I’m pretty much brand new to the game, still trying to decide which class to focus on, but I’ve run a couple matches with Psyker and enjoyed it. Can you recommend a good guide/video for beginner Psykers? I did a quick search but I saw some people saying a bunch of stuff is out of date already.

[eager knoll]

sorry to derail; curious when warp ghost is worth taking, not smart enough to figure out myself

[tulip kettle]

there is a very comprehensive, up to date guide by six in the pins. any specific questions just ask us here

[tulip kettle]

usually on builds where you dont want your peril to decay between peril generating actions

so, mainly on melee/ gun focussed builds where you may not be constantly able to take a peril generating action - BB KF gunker being one example

[graceful arch]

It's mostly just going to be learn fundamentals like positioning, toughness management, and melee combat, dodge timings, etc like all other classes, other than that advice is largely gonna be build/weapon specific.

Movement.

Blocking works in a 360° come around you.

You block while reviving people

[mossy hazel]

Yea, I’m curious about some stuff that is, I guess, even more basic: like, what’s the point of charging up my brain burst ahead of time? I can’t hold it without peril continuing to grow, so I might as well just use the normal non-charged version right?

[tulip kettle]

thats a bit advanced, actually

but also, as psyker, i would say, just dont worry about it.

[mossy hazel]

Also, does peril have any effect other than a build-up to explosion? Like, more peril = any bonuses, or is it just a threshold like “don’t hit 100 or you blow up”?

[tulip kettle]

psyker doesnt really "work" until you are level 30

[graceful arch]

It does affect other talents.

[tulip kettle]

at a higher level of play, being at high peril is good

[graceful arch]

Like one with the warp or warp rider

And some blessings

[tulip kettle]

the class is about managing the line of being at high peril but not exploding

[mossy hazel]

Ok, yea. I’m thinking of Sienna from VT, you know? Sometimes keeping that gauge nice and high and riding the edge was good. More damage, more crit, or whatever. Just don’t blow up…

Ok, so, similar.

[tulip kettle]

when levelling, none of that applies. all of the staffs suck when low level. Your talents dont synergise at a low level

[mossy hazel]

Gotcha.

[tulip kettle]

when levelling psyker, just use the blitz called assail

and focus on the basic mechanics of the game

like melee and movement

[graceful arch]

This is a good build for leveling just make sure you focus on getting the assail nodes and warp splitting as a priority

@mossy hazel

[graceful arch]

Correction get malefic momentum instead of bcob

[tulip kettle]

i mean i would make a number of corrections 😄 but its a fine general idea - get assail, use assail, maybe experiment with SG once you have it. Basically just focus on learning the melee and movement mechanics and worry about psyker specific stuff later on

[mossy hazel]

Cool thanks.

[deft stump]

Take vent if you prefer it.

My build is in the big book of psyker builds. Though I will say, Just A Dream is a taste thing.

[graceful arch]

Yeah and I like JaD

Especially for melee builds

[mossy hazel]

Is weapon choice just kind of “experiment and use what you like while leveling” or are there certain things I should focus on because the others don’t shine until later?

[deft stump]

More or less.

Staves suck till 30.

And maxed.

[graceful arch]

I mean generally most weapons perform fine what's important really early on is good blessings and power

[tulip kettle]

yup just use sword and gun and assail. learn the core game.

i will say

[deft stump]

Is why I just suggest messing with bistol bleed shards.

[tulip kettle]

force great sword MK6 is goated

and fun at every level of play

[deft stump]

Or just finding a gun you like.

If you take the greatsword, the puncture bleed thing works on the special.

[graceful arch]

Not the FGS bleed swap build

Tbh wouldn't recommend that to a new player.

Imo.

[deft stump]

True, it's funni though. Just complex.

[tulip kettle]

just hit things with Mk6 force greatsword and shoot things with your gun. sometimes throw magic blue throwing knives. learn to dodge

[mossy hazel]

I only have the force sword so far. What’s the idea with the special to charge it up; save it for specials/tough enemies or use it as much as peril allows?

[tulip kettle]

dont use it at all

no special use on normal force swords

[mossy hazel]

lol really?

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[deft stump]

Normal force sword, special is bad. Illisi has uses but still.

Do not on Obscurus or Deimos.

[graceful arch]

For the force sword I recommend the Deimos personally great stagger stick and can 2 shot crushers up until havoc.

[brazen warren]

force sword special hits hard but locks you out of blocking and movment as it does its animation after you hit the target, which gets you killed most times

[deft stump]

You hit just as hard l1 h2.

[brazen warren]

obscurus and deimos lose out on add clear but get really strong anti armor combos if you are hitting heads. Illisi is better for horde clear

[deft stump]

And it's faster.

[brazen warren]

agreeing with those above, deimos and obscurus do not really need to ever use the special attack

unless you are feeling extra about assassinating a lone crusher

[mossy hazel]

Gotcha. Very good to know.

[tulip kettle]

i rub my sword til i perils

i guess that counts

[mossy hazel]

Once I get Assail, what’s my playstyle? Like, when to use melee vs gun vs Assail?

[brazen warren]

generally the higher you go the more you need to be aware of anti carapace options too, but when leveling use what ever to get a feel for every weapon type

[tulip kettle]

just play as you like dude 🙂

[graceful arch]

Yeah I sometimes special swap to generate easy peril

[tulip kettle]

assail is not good for "carapace armour" so the armoured enemies that do overheads that flatten you

otherwise its good to just throw them whenever

[mossy hazel]

Cool.

[tulip kettle]

guns are usually for killing opposing gunners and "specials"

[wraith sphinx]

assail for soft targets, weapons and melee for hard targets and shit that's too dangerous to be dealt with by flinging shards

[deft stump]

With my build, you just throw shards and pull out melee when things are near.

[mossy hazel]

Cool cool. Appreciate it.

[deft stump]

I made it meme lvls of brain turn off so I can no think in like Heresy.

No need to aim as well, kapp.

[brazen warren]

its more of a pick what is useful in the moment, if you are getting boxed in by horde melee is probably better than assail or ranged option, your ranged option usually overlaps with assail at distance. Picking a ranged weapon with a particular strong lean towards anti carapace or anti horde to compliment your overall toolset helps, but again it only really comes up at the higher levels/difficulties

[tulip kettle]

dont listen to karien she is one of the goated players and carries us all

[royal totem]

Karien's builds aren't meant for mere mortals like us

[graceful arch]

The psionics build is kind of a funny infinite assail build but when you max your melee I would personally cut both assail subnodes and go disrupt destiny

[deft stump]

Stop lying to newbies.

[deft stump]

WDYM?

[royal totem]

as a mere mortal if i play a karien build i'd just blow up 😛

[tulip kettle]

we arent high skill enough to get value out of them only true pros can pull it off

[graceful arch]

My builds have some very heavy personal preference nodes and Dom wants to murder me for running JaD

[brazen warren]

I enjoy running auto gun, dueling sword, scriers gaze, and smite. I typically only play on auric though, so cannot speak to havoc viabilities. I have fun though, and having infinite crusher CC helps way more now

[graceful arch]

Also Dom you down for vt2 sometime?

Haven't played it in a while

[tulip kettle]

Jad, EP, warp ghost, no KD, BCoB, quietitude

all not great for beginners

[deft stump]

Mine has it, but I will usually say is a strong taste thing.

[tulip kettle]

because of a lack of understanding of the interactions and why you would be doing those things

and yeah for sure though im likely rusty as hell

and i basically only play shield maiden now

because its just so much better than everything else

[deft stump]

EP on Assail is just spam though.

[graceful arch]

Yeah spear and shield is busted

[deft stump]

Quietude is like, free toughness gain.

[tulip kettle]

it is, if you are generating and quelling peril frequently

[deft stump]

Just block stuff. What is dodge?

[tulip kettle]

which you wont be doing

its a very good node that doesnt work well for beginners

[graceful arch]

Dodging is a lot weaker in vt2

[deft stump]

I do. Assail spam means I hit 90 quick. XD

[graceful arch]

No iframes

[deft stump]

Is more, I use controller. Dodge in VT2 sucks dog doo doo on controller.

[tulip kettle]

why dodge when i can just "LUMBERFOOTS" through everything

[graceful arch]

True

[deft stump]

Is why, thank god there is bumper dodge now.

[graceful arch]

Personally though I like sigmar maxxing on WP or zealot

[deft stump]

And then I proceed to break my dodge button.

[wraith sphinx]

left tree zealot is the only zealot build I enjoy

[tulip kettle]

you shouldve seen me at poggers bridge

[wraith sphinx]

fucked up psycho knight in not so shining armor rushing at everything

[graceful arch]

Rapier zealot light spamming into hordes with carve and getting all your thp back

I need to try out billhook and flail

Heard they're really good

[deft stump]

I heard it's like mk4 all over again. And no, I don't play him much.

[graceful arch]

Eh I enjoy saltz zealot more than martydom in darktide tbh

[deft stump]

When I played, there was only grail knight.

[hearty wolf]

After you've finished chorusing, it's harder to break your gold toughness

And as long as you have 1

You survive getting bonk

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/grandma's-fake-teeth-flew-out-when-blowing-a-candle-viralhog-grandma-blew-out-a-candle-and-her-dental-implants-flew-out-gif-2177443156331695156

[junior lantern]

i mean i love assail too but mostly for the BEEEEES

[deft stump]

Beekeeper builds.

[zinc phoenix]

ok having played krak spam vet a few times now i have to wonder if the other vets in the mid 20s are... all there. it is very easy to play and so long as you dont mong out and die in melee the team really cant lose

i just had a game where we got caught in elevator by bon + cap and i chugged ammo bag + health kit and krak'd right thru em

very silly

[wraith sphinx]

I struggle to play anything other than left tree vet because I just get bored quickly

[zinc phoenix]

i just play sg when i want some fightin 😂

left tree vet looks like an excellent way to commit sudoku

so much of havoc rn is just a "can you grind out carapace and boss fast" and its pretty dull

[wraith sphinx]

Just realized I am a moron

I meant RIGHT tree

not left

[zinc phoenix]

right tree looks solid for sure

[mighty shuttle]

Does Warp Slice trigger true aim as ranged attack?

[jovial juniper]

If it does you'll only get 1 stack

[mighty shuttle]

What do you mean

Like the guaranteed crit will only apply to first target hit by my greatsword warp slice?

[austere warren]

Right rewards playing fast. Far from boring when you're good with it.

Show off tree basically.

[neon forge]

Darktide players be like, “left tree, right tree,” but mfer I picked whatever nodes sounded FUN as I leveled up, and I continue to play subpar to this DAY

[wraith sphinx]

right tree also lets me compensate for all the qp scatterbrains who think scattering to the four corners of the map is the optimal way to play

it's also just really cool being able to stalk around the map undisturbed. I love cloaking abilities.

[jovial juniper]

As in it wouldn't matter how many weakspots get hit by the Warp Slash, you'll only get 1 stack of True Aim

[austere warren]

They're pretty neat. Always have been. Genuinely a funny thing for people to play fake cool guy with tho depending on who's talking about it.

Only issue I really have with right tree for like vet specifically is is that it's still kind of caged away. With a tweak or two and a merge, it'd be in a much better spot.

[jovial juniper]

But basically
Anything that hits a weakspot stack true aim

[austere warren]

And left tree is great if you like being a shooter. Usefulness and fun scale with the player's capabilities in my experience.

And they made it way better than it could be in the past. Although I'd say it was going up a bit in terms of people finally learning that life exists outside of voc.

[mighty shuttle]

I'm pretty sure warp slice doesn't hit weakspots

I'm talking about killing enemies with great sword stabs for weakspot generation, then using it for warp slice if it coutns as a range attack so basically critted warp slice.

[plucky flax]

The melee part of the slice does.

[mighty shuttle]

The sword swing itself yeah probably! Just not the actual 'magic ranged slice'

To clarify

I want to use melee to rack up 5 weakspot hits. So I can make my next ranged attack a guaranteed critical.

I'm asking if my ranged Greatsword warp slice count as a ranged attack, and thus benefit from guaranteed critical

[analog verge]

ill test it out in the psykhanium

warp slice does hit weakspots

you can see it in the hitmarkers

[radiant frigate]

i don't believe it will

[mighty shuttle]

Got it

I just hopped in to test it yeah it doesn't consume the true aim

A bummer

[analog verge]

sucks

although sometimes interactions in the psykhanium are weird

[plucky flax]

No.

[tulip kettle]

lost on last event of excise vault again - couldnt deal with healing captain and spawn by myself 🙁

[lone ravine]

seems like you were already carrying most the match anyways

[plucky flax]

How long was this failed round.

[tulip kettle]

44 minutes

[verbal thistle]

Wait

Vault is back?

Or is that refinery delta

[tulip kettle]

sorry refinery delta

[verbal thistle]

: (

[plucky flax]

Excise vault is back?

I played it.

[verbal thistle]

Best map still out of rotation

[plucky flax]

Excise vault is the one with the vacuumn capsules at the end.

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

[plucky flax]

It is in the havoc rotation.

[verbal thistle]

Oh?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[verbal thistle]

I wish they made a havoc dev note

When they switch things

[jovial juniper]

I could swear they used to

[wraith sphinx]

I'm almost certain they did wtf

has to be an oversight

[verbal thistle]

for the past 3 havoc changes I did not see any

[zealous wing]

ah

so, if i had to guess, because of people recovering more, the next thing we'll have to deal with, is more high intensity kind of stuff

[radiant frigate]

r a s h u n s

[zealous wing]

but i did also call it, they were keeping count

[quartz barn]

ive seen a ton of excise vault, but ive mostly been in h30 for carries

could also be like old havoc, where certain maps only appear / are more common in lower ranks

[silver mantle]

I like the excise vault changes

[patent steeple]

wait, Superiority is a blessing worth using? I always thought its either Uncanny and Riposte or bust...

[zealous wing]

psyker weak, 0 dmg

pls buff

i wish i was running scoreboard that match to see what he saw

because i was running SG knife meleeker with a vraks for boss damage

psyker weak while im RIGHT THERE

kinda mean

told him to come here because the other psyker (smyker) was trying to tempt him to the dark side of bad habits

i long for the day permasmykers fade out to be a more rare sighting than every other match

at least its not shroudfield speedrunners anymore, and at least smykers arent usually rushing ahead and spawning every single monster leaving us to deal with it, but, still bad

[weary idol]

no idea why people do that with shroudfield anyways

infiltrate veteran is right there

infilitrate lasts longer and gives a speed boost

[zealous wing]

because zealot edgy "i walk in the shadows"

maybe

it was veterans too tho tbh

dom and i got crusher fucked because a shroudfield and inf vet buddy duo aggrodumped them on us and ran in fear

i refuse to ever believe it was anything else. if you dont fight the thing you just dumped aggro on, then youre terrified and a coward 🙃

the increased damage is there for a reason

[austere warren]

The behavior overall is a little silly unless the person knows what they're doing anyway. And people generally play with shroudfield over infiltrate because it's just a lot easier comparatively for most people.

[austere warren]

Usually the extended consequence of prematurely/unnecessarily positioning too far up to get a backstab off. In either direction though it's not like they couldn't swing with it as an opener on vips in the crowd then help and/or finish the rest. Coop sneaktide is actually nuts for how surgically two solid players can play. Sounds like they shit themselves. Lol

[wraith sphinx]

why the fuck did they make rotten armor a havoc modifier aaaa

[austere warren]

Shroomtimes, you have to fight harder.

[wraith sphinx]

the FART CLOUDS kill my FPS

[austere warren]

Do you already play with low settings?

[wraith sphinx]

yea

[austere warren]

I usually do it just because there's already so much shit that happens in this game. You might be able to find a mod that cleans up how gas particles show up without screwing your ui over. There's one that people have to be able to just ignore seeing veteran smoke grenades.

[weary idol]

I have that mod because it shows the actual radius of smoke grenades and you can toggle the visual

I keep the visual because I'm not a bitch ass cheat mod user

[prime elk]

Seeing exact radius is cheating tho

[austere warren]

Idc too deeply about it and a tag doesn't mean much considering why some can end up using something like that.

Main reason why I mentioned it is there might be mods that can help break up particle visuals more so your machine/game can perform better.

There's other performance mods that exist as I understand it but I don't know what they do at all so big shrug.

[tulip kettle]

rot armour is my favourite modifier tbh

rot + heals is peak darktide

stimms can go fuck themselves

[austere warren]

I'm excited to finally play a havoc that has the empowered shooters

[weary idol]

Yeah I like rot armor

Stimms modifier is aids

random ass bruisers popping blue stims and tanking power sword swings

let alone a mauler or crusher

[wraith sphinx]

ok on second attempt the drops aint as bad for some reason

weird

I gotta fill in a demolition team apology form holy shit

[graceful arch]

It completely depends on if teammates play around coherency

[wraith sphinx]

game ended by a rodin gas mine lodged between stairs on hourglass

absolute rotema

well at least I don't waste time getting rejected from pub parties on my vet compared to my psyker

[quartz barn]

you get rejected on psyker?

[wraith sphinx]

near constantly yea

[austere warren]

People take the salt and pettiness seriously. Unshowered Gamer™ behavior

[weary idol]

smh should've run bubble+inferno

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-stare-funny-funny-cat-funny-cat-staring-gif-5991461082324993255

[open slate]

I actually enjoy the single side sheilds, great for stopping elites from rushing you

[tulip kettle]

they do nothing to elites

and they dont even function correctly vs specials

[zealous wing]

theyre good for a KR meme build, but 99.9% the time bubble is better

[haughty star]

is pots good for EK

like for rmb is Penetration of the sould good? it's been too long to remember or care what rending exactly does

[jolly hawk]

Can i uh get a link to a auric build (no bubble)

[wraith sphinx]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff45845-e1cc-4b1b-9341-33815857c7ca/brainsplosion-gun-psyker-a-new-dawn-csgo-knife-surfer

Heres what I usually play

[ornate hamlet]

blaze force sword you dump warp resistance or mobility?

[brazen warren]

all the defence noodes

[wraith sphinx]

Everything except voidstrike staff wants warp resistance dumped

[graceful arch]

Ek m1 drops charge rate

[wind spruce]

Why flak on FGS and why specifically one corrupt resist perk

Also based middle of the tree

[wraith sphinx]

Because the stinky randoms pick up grimoires

[cosmic sigil]

Long story short. It boosts armor damage

[wraith sphinx]

Flak on fgs I did replace with maniac, forgot to update the build

[cosmic sigil]

I don't you already os muties without maniac?

[zealous wing]

ragers, im betting

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah

I want to kill dreg ragers faster

[graceful arch]

Blue stim dreg ragers are funky

(I hate them)

[wraith sphinx]

True

I did manage to beat a h21 mission with this build and it was lit

Shame people just fucking hate me so it's near impossible to get into a havoc party

[zealous wing]

people want zealot with chorus, vet with voc, psyker with bubble

[royal totem]

cuz dat is the way

says the infiltrate zealot

[wraith sphinx]

No Beloved, I don't want to be a bubble bitch

[graceful arch]

It's called shroudfield.

[wind spruce]

I almost never get complaints about using gunker (and more off-meta) builds

Idk maybe it's the 1700 true level

[marble crater]

It's because they don't want to be flamed

[zealous wing]

might also be if youre on apac, i hear theres already slim pickings

[wraith sphinx]

It's not that people complain I just straight up get rejected

[cosmic sigil]

Running a vet with voc and a 850 true lvl is not a free ticket sadly..

[wind spruce]

I'm not even running inferno though

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-kekwait-gif-24161687

[wraith sphinx]

My psyker has true level in the 800s currently, doesn't matter none to havoc pubs

[cosmic sigil]

I get rejected too

[wind spruce]

Rip

Gotta find a good discord community for your region rem

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah looks like it

And or I should maybe start asking eu peeps here to play

[cosmic sigil]

Oce is the best community

[zealous wing]

usually works

[cosmic sigil]

I am eu

[marble crater]

All 5 of them

[ripe obsidian]

@verbal thistle if Darktide is Dorktide, is DRG Dorftide?

[cosmic sigil]

[wraith sphinx]

Tho I am confident I could handle playing w randoms all the way if the randoms didn't get so consistently filtered by the twins

One random goes after rinda, second random goes after rodin, third random starts fighting trashmobs and they all die in short order and I'm not good enough to solo both twins at near full health each

It's disturbing how I keep witnessing this

[ripe obsidian]

Do you want it in the guide?

[wraith sphinx]

Sure, I think it would be a good fit.

[wind spruce]

@ripe obsidian did you know shotties can generate more than one stack of true aim per shot, including on the shot that you consume a 5 stack

[ripe obsidian]

Pick a section and I will add it.

[ripe obsidian]

I did not know this. I guess each pellet counts as a separate projectile?

[wind spruce]

Yeah I imagine so

Super funny if not particularly applicable. It does slightly increase the potential of flechette/accatran special dreams

[royal totem]

i got to delete a chaos spawn today. i'm happy

though there was a leaver in that game, we still won

[wraith sphinx]

It is a melee/gun + scrier's gaze build so it would go here. My note/caveat would be that my build aims to be more fast paced and aggressive than the 'baseline' gunker build and presumes the player has a grasp on quickly switching weapons and hitting weakspots in melee to get the most out of it.

But also um

On closer examination my build is very similar to Ainz' build already posted

[flint chasm]

Is inferno staff good? It feels underwhelming

[marble crater]

It's very good, but feels very underwhelming in lower difficulties due to the lack of big hordes of enemies

[flint chasm]

Wouldn't smite be better at dealing w hordes?

[zealous wing]

HA

[royal totem]

oh dear me. what difficulty are you playing? cuz inferno staff is very good with some caveats

if you're playing like below damnation, inferno is pretty bad ._.

even damnation it can be not great tool

[zealous wing]

if you wanna tickle the horde, sure smite is better. if you wanna kill the horde, literally anything else

[wraith sphinx]

Smite generally takes too long to kill hordes, so no.

[flint chasm]

Just uprising rn, trying out psyker and crit inferno seemed fun but in practice I don't feel the value

[zealous wing]

lol you sweet summer child

[wraith sphinx]

Ah

[zealous wing]

inferno scales. the harder the difficulty the stronger it is

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah staves are unfortunately kind of shit when starting out

[marble crater]

That's the fault of uprising lacking enemies and psyker being bad with low stat staves

[zealous wing]

with one sweep, auric

[wraith sphinx]

On Uprising you are just a weird looking veteran

[zealous wing]

(and usually you sweep more)

[flint chasm]

Is critical good w it? Heard it doubles the fire stacks

[royal totem]

yeah...but like also just

inferno dogshit on uprising

[weary idol]

THE meta definining weapon

[royal totem]

sure you can use it but like.....

[weary idol]

Shit's why FS keeps buffing gun psyke

[royal totem]

don't expect good results from it

[weary idol]

Because inferno is so oppressive and easy to use on high difficulties that melee psyker (who is batshit insane) looks bad in comparison xd

[flint chasm]

😭

[marble crater]

In the pins is a collection of builds and there is also one for leveling as psyker, I suggest using that

[wraith sphinx]

Dw man that is just a common darktide theme

The real game begins when you hit lvl 30

Everything before is just an extended tutorial

[royal totem]

i hate it when people good at psyker keep saying certain builds are "easy" like sure things are easy if you're good at the game but like even inferno psyker is hard for me who is decidedly bad at the game

[marble crater]

Have you tried playing better? smh

[royal totem]

YES

I TRY REALLY HARD OK? T__T

i'm just bad despite effort

bite me

[marble crater]

Well, try harder, I don't know

[wraith sphinx]

[marble crater]

Ask Karien to teach you how to carry

[zealous wing]

to be fair

inferno itself is easy

having teammates to kill the things they're supposed to is not easy

[royal totem]

REEEEE i only get 400k damage on inferno at most

[zealous wing]

on what difficulty

[royal totem]

havoc 20s ._.

[zealous wing]

thats still not high as fuck density

thats why

[royal totem]

"Skill issue" Yes i know it's a skill issue ._.

[wraith sphinx]

Have you tried turning off scoreboard, you will instantly play better

[zealous wing]

just shriek often at 80%+, flame everything, absolutely everything, and if youre doing that, then thats just how it is

400k is nothing to huff at tbh

[royal totem]

i don't have scoreboard. i only know my damage from other people telling me it after the fact

[zealous wing]

if they flame you for it, block them

its mid havoc not high havoc

if they're expecting numbers in the multi-millions on havoc 25 then they're just insane and 100% projecting

[royal totem]

idk i manage to do more as arb or as shroudfield zealot even

[zealous wing]

i guarentee if someone flames you for low damage, they have even lower than normal damage than you think you have

it depends on map, modifiers, and rng

its also important to note overkill vs normal damage, even though its iffy in its calculations

if youre a backstabbing shroudfield youre gonna have a lot of overkill, no?

if youre curious enough, get scoreboard, get the settings you want, and analyse, not wallow

[royal totem]

maybe. i wouldn't know.

i just kill bosses. and bulwarks. and crushers

[zealous wing]

wallowing in what you cant see with your own eyes isnt gonna help you figure out where you may need to practice

so either ignore whatever someone tells you unless you specifically ask, or get the mod and stop relying on potentially one-sided attacks out of their own hurt ego

first and foremost, its a game, you're supposed to have fun, and it very much sounds like you're not having tons of fun with people doing that

[royal totem]

i dunno if i'm having any fun playing lol.

[zealous wing]

doesnt feel like it

i wish you were, its a fun game, but you're pushing very hard to be in higher difficulties to the point of self depreciation that as a new player youre not at that high skill level of long term players, and, its not ideal :(

[royal totem]

i only enjoy things i'm good at

[zealous wing]

get good at the things you enjoy

if you have fun on lower difficulties, practice obliterating them, then move up one step when you feel ready

if you enjoy mortis, do mortis

no one should really tell you where you should be playing, we all have our opinions, but yours is more important in the end, just please dont become a permasmyker

[royal totem]

i can't play smyker ._.

i die when i try to smyker

[zealous wing]

fuckin good

thats the usual fate

[royal totem]

how do people manage to not die while smyking?

[zealous wing]

by the rest of us focusing on not letting them die, usually

sometimes we do let them die

othertimes we just kill everything fast

[royal totem]

i smyke and then like a pogryn comes and punts me across the map 🙁

or a Burgle looks at me and goes "tasty snack"

[zealous wing]

dont stand near edges if you hear the boss music start

[royal totem]

no it doesn't punt me off the map. just across it. which is enough to free everything from smite

regardless, have no intention of learning the ways of the smyker

[zealous wing]

part of me wants to learn how to use it in practice, but i refuse to touch it

i want to know how to do everything psyker

:p

but every time i even try making a tree, soon as i get to blitz im just filled with disgust

even for demo clips its painful

[royal totem]

lmao. i've had to play with so many smykers today

[zealous wing]

same, they're everywhere

definitely not running smite while the plague is active, at the very fuckin least

[royal totem]

you'll be waiting a long time

[zealous wing]

ideally, yes

hopefully by then its removed

or changed so drastically its not even the same blitz anymore

[royal totem]

the big problem is the only thing i want to do in this game is 1 shot bosses

and where do you find lots of bosses? in havoc

[zealous wing]

or mortis

and you get superpowers

[brazen warren]

unlimited ammo

[weary idol]

shroudfield zealot can one shot hav 40 bosses

[brazen warren]

I run raking fire dum dum raks on auric, if you can get some height to do backstab head shots things melt like butter in a hot forge

[zealous wing]

but only one, and then, cooldown

[brazen warren]

vaporizes beasts of nurgle

[royal totem]

i'm aware. but i don't have TS so i can't get into h40 games 😛 (neither do i have a clearance 40)

[brazen warren]

one reason I dont run havoc is I cant deal with lfg... not enough energy to

other is I enjoy the game on auric regardless so not a huge motivator

[royal totem]

also, my cooldown is pretty short on shroudfield cuz meme build

i'm pretty sure somebody that actually plays zealot would hurt themselves if they saw my build

i pretty much filled in random nodes that kinda seem good

[brazen warren]

so how are people handling the walls of crushers and maulers now? I have been kiting them or smiting them so my team can regroup mostly

I can kill them, but its a density thing mostly, gotta chew on em now instead of just evaporating them like before

[royal totem]

use melee weapons that kill them

[brazen warren]

I am already

DS, obscurus, FGS

[prime elk]

Time your dodges

Fall back and kite, get them spread out

Use force pushes to knock some away

Or Deimos H2

[brazen warren]

sounds like I have been doing what I should be then

just confirming

[prime elk]

Yeah then just keep doing that

[royal totem]

seems right haha though of course it also helps if other people are also killing the crushers

(which they're not always doing)

[brazen warren]

yeah I have been running into situations where its a mixed horde with a wall of 8 maulers and 3-6 crushers integrated into it, and my teammates on auric evaporate in .0001 seconds and leave me to solo that shit...

when the director is fed up and just spawns the crusher pincer

[royal totem]

yeah...... i mean sometimes if you're by yourself and have no room to kite or anything it's a "guess i'll die"

[brazen warren]

ye

[prime elk]

Bring trauma. Keep the fuckers on the floor

[fiery stratus]

Yeah kinda what i was thinking, what are you using? Definitely takes practice but good positioning and a good anti armor weapon can go a long way sometimes

[ripe obsidian]

Added

[pure plinth]

going from the relic blade on zealot to the fgs on psyker

it feels a lot more powerful

[half pebble]

is there an official name for psykers that intentionally sacrifice a wound to explode? Psuicide bomber maybe?

Bonpsy?

[pure plinth]

liability

in lore iirc

[half pebble]

so true bestie

[pure plinth]

actually grendyl has emplaced some kind of limiter into the psyker so that they explode yet dont rip open a hole into the warp and kill everyone

[strong gulch]

IDK about official, but colloquially it's called suipsyker.

[half pebble]

tysm

suipsyker is great

[brazen warren]

crystaline will sounds very tszeench, and he would def give the psykers on atoma a boon to fuck with nurgle for funsies

same reason the zealots are always screaming about blood and skulls for the emperor

khorn giving them some juice too

[restive slate]

Ogryn be Nurgle and Vet Slaanesh?

"Bastion 69 Combat Stance!"

[graceful arch]

I mean martydom zealots get stronger the more they bleed

[pure plinth]

are there any force greatsword skins?

[solid pond]

yes

there is atleast one that isn't the level 20 red one

though, its still red

[slow slate]

I'm assuming showstopper doesn't work with kinetic flayer right?

[strong gulch]

There's 2 paid FGS skins. A mostly white one called the Icefall Shard. There was a red one that looks like the free one in the ordo shop. Other than the ordo shop, there's a penenac/ mastery one.

[ripe obsidian]

I am sad. I just had a team fight a horde while a chaos spawn with like 2k hp was eating me.

they were in range to hit it, too

[strong gulch]

Noooooo

[zinc phoenix]

It’s rude to interrupt someone during a meal 🙏

Next time endeavor to be less delicious

[ripe obsidian]

they then all died to the horde

...

I'm actually incredibly salty about that one

[zinc phoenix]

Spawn eatin good tonight!

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-feeder-cat-feeder-eat-hedgehog-gif-15627593310129822333

[ripe obsidian]

It was at the end of Power Matrix, right before the end event

And they just... watched me get eaten

Then the spawn tossed me into a crowd of maulers and I died before I hit the ground

[royal totem]

🙁

[zinc phoenix]

Well at least the maulers didn’t start tea bagging you

[ripe obsidian]

That's the kind of loss that makes me close darktide for the night

[potent echo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-meme-face-chips-cat-eating-gif-15310179217102583800

[zinc phoenix]

Today I played an RTS and the game bugged out so that my units did no damage but the enemy units could still kill me.

And that went on for 20m 😂

[royal totem]

i quit game today cuz i dced 4 times in the first 7 minutes 🙁

[zinc phoenix]

Oh we had a vet that that happened too

It was pretty annoying

[royal totem]

and then our Ogryn threw the game

after i finally reconnected and it started going smoothly

anyways, it made me close DT for the night

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I get it

I am super frustrated at the moment

[royal totem]

yeah i bet 🙁

[ripe obsidian]

If they had managed to survive for 2 minutes after I died, it would be one thing. But they dropped basically immediately without me killing things.

[royal totem]

yeah kinda surprised me 3 people just died to random horde

though i guess crushers and such can be a threat and all

[ripe obsidian]

It was a shotgunner horde and some flamers/bombers that they died to

[royal totem]

......... huh..... well i mean i do get that they hurt but.....

how 3 people all go down to it is a bit beyond me

[floral wedge]

That mf learned how to go into stealth mode like the vets

[royal totem]

idk i don't like getting eaten by chaos spawn

especially cuz it's easily interruptible

[flint chasm]

what does the 2nd part of falter do for shock maul

"increase ranged stagger strength"

[ripe obsidian]

The Zealot was next to me when I got grabbed, then ran off

[royal totem]

wat?

._.

[floral wedge]

Bruh

[royal totem]

i feel like the space to stop a chaos spawn from enjoying a meal is pretty large

[zinc phoenix]

I just got robbed of a nice clutch in an auric mael 😂 team got thru a pretty nasty mod set and was in the tunnels when waves of mutie dog and burster spawned along with a pogryn and some bulwarks. Very nasty, they went down while I opened space and started cleaning stuff up. I couldn’t get all the bulwarks and there was a trapper I couldn’t see so I just kept running back further until I saw a window and then doubled back toward em killing as I went. Looked good for the clutch but when in entering the train car a massive wall of gunners spawns with a flamer behind and as I charge in to waste em before the rescue I fall off the ramp and get stuck 😂 🪦

[royal totem]

Potato is a witness to me getting robbed twice yesterday

[wind spruce]

Falling off terrain during a clutch always breaks my heart

[wind spruce]

Check kuli's guides in the pins for talent and blessing mechanics

[royal totem]

Getting clipped by a trapper breaks mine

[flint chasm]

in this channel?

nvm found it

doesnt explain how falter effects ranged stagger strength 😭

[wraith sphinx]

Same 😭

My most embarrasing performance was methodically clutching my way through the Deep Archives on maelstrom and then randomly walking off into the chasm like wile e coyote because it was lights out and I did not see where I was going

[radiant frigate]

the abyss called to you

[quartz barn]

i always get lost in the showers in consignment yard...

dont even know why tbh, maybe im too used to the old layout so i always get turned around

[wraith sphinx]

the really obtuse naming scheme of darktide's maps really doesn't help in memorizing things either

[obtuse dome]

I still have no clue wich is wich lol

Only a select few

[wraith sphinx]

silo cluster, rolling steel, archivum sycorax, mortis trials, consignment yard

the rest of the map names still slip my mind

[obtuse dome]

Archivum rolling steel aaaaand hmmmm

I zhink thats it

[slow slate]

there's the elevator or whatever

[obtuse dome]

Atleast i can still get a surprise that way

Ah yeah ascension riser

[merry meteor]

Hey

One more of those quesitons..

Wildfire talent - is it really worth it, for DoT-based build? I've read detailed description, and it seems it's a) limits TOTAL amount of stacks that can be spread to 4 stacks (not like 4 to each adjacent foe, but 4 in total) b) won't pass them to those who already have 4+ soulblaze stacks

As much as we can trust this dude: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

The maximum amount of valid targets is 4: If 4 stacks are to be spread and 4 targets are in range, each target receives 1 stack; if 4 stacks are to be spread and 3 targets are in range, 1 target receives 2 stacks while the other 2 targets receive 1 stack each, etc.

So I thought may be choose Empyric Shock instead, as I often have issues killing things with staff's primary

[wind wind]

https://youtu.be/0S7qFkVyaPE?si=1SMFdjWoyz2sph1H

So much happening on screen

Almost got a seizure watching it

[hoary mauve]

whaaattt, that guy is weird, you smashed the hell out of everything when helping me get my penance xD

[oblique zinc]

So what blessings y’all play on inferno

[hoary mauve]

i dunno, I read " in a match with another psyker, you are much more likely to apply the first warpfire stack with wildfire. This is extremely important with all DOTs because whoever applied the first stack is the one who dictates what strength bonuses are applied" once, so it seems you might want to take it if you run the inferno staff and play with randoms. But idk how accurate is that.

[merry meteor]

I run trauma with crit-based soulblaze application, and also apply extra stacks with the Shrike

Plus the stacks from killing elites/specials

[hoary mauve]

idk, I play at low difficulites, so I tend to prefer Empyric Shock on voidblast but now you got me thinking. 🙂

[marble crater]

Nexus and Blaze Away

[hollow halo]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

how it feel

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-eat-eating-food-monster-h-reginald-gif-2362901127389079325

[marble crater]

"The spawn will let go of him soon, let's focus on the horde"

[tulip kettle]

wildfire is very good on blazing trauma

the thing that wildfire does, is allows your fire to spread at all. While it is accurate that only 4 stacks in total are spread, and is capped at 4 stacks, what this does do is enable the feedback loop with PC and KF

it also considerably increases the value you get from each shriek into hordes - shrieking at, say, 80% peril = 5 stacks to enemies hit = trash no die

same situation but with wildfire = those trash likely have 1 or 2 stacks already = trash dies

[marble crater]

I want 1 aquila for every time Wildfire is being discussed

[tulip kettle]

ok, but i get the same for smite

[wraith sphinx]

I want 1 aquila for every time I qp with a voc survivalist vet 😈

[dusk timber]

I want 1 aquila for every message sent in this server

[cosmic sigil]

I was mistaken

[wind spruce]

Ok but imagine if it was 17%

It's pretty nutty that force swords can get +77.5% strength

[cosmic sigil]

superiority and?

[wind spruce]

Slaughterer

[cosmic sigil]

Ah yeah

[wind spruce]

Or 57.5% with UP extremely consistently

[marble crater]

Imagine if it was 0%

[dusk timber]

Imagine if it was -1

[marble crater]

Explode right away

https://tenor.com/view/aux-aux1-gif-27240190

[wind spruce]

imagine if uncanny wasnt so powerful that other blessing combos actually meant anything

[marble crater]

I can't imagine uncanny not being overpowered

[cosmic sigil]

man i cannot remember what is the mod I use to have automatic improv with hadron

instead of clicking 100 times

[wind spruce]

havent used it

its not like i need to empower that often

[limpid lily]

been playing quite a lot of scrier gaze empowered smite in Havoc 40, lowkey getting a bit ridonkulous (I dc'd right after this)

[glacial garnet]

Cringe

[jovial juniper]

And this is because smite falls off on havoc

Imagine if it didn't

[limpid lily]

cant be worse than inferno staff cmon lol, but I will say my middle finger is numb

[glacial garnet]

Inferno staff is the next level of it, but now you actually.need.equipment

[wind spruce]

just make a macro that holds lmb and spams your ability button

then you can truly just walk around

peak gaming

[glacial garnet]

Shit why didnt i think of that

[wind spruce]

skill issue

[limpid lily]

I was basically just sitting still and mostly dodging gunners and hounds, that's about it, peak gaming xD

it's good for when I gotta region hop at night to play on high ping

[limpid lily]

elaborate lol, i'm just saying they both kinda do the same thing basically, but infinite Smiting is jsut....kinda superior vs Rotten Armor afaik from all of my playing so far

[glacial garnet]

I used scrier smite before.because i had no materials to get equipment

[limpid lily]

I was using recon lasgun actually, it's kinda cool tho that scrier smite does let you use an actual gun

[mossy elbow]

what are warp charges

[mossy elbow]

ty

[icy breach]

It isn’t

[icy breach]

I suggest using a more reactive & stagger applying gun

[candid temple]

62.k stagger is impressive

[limpid lily]

me when

[jovial juniper]

Jazz hands gaming

[glacial garnet]

Every second i watch of this a braincell dies

[limpid lily]

I dc'd right after this lol

[hollow halo]

At least man's enjoying himself

[jovial juniper]

You got booted for being afk lol

[limpid lily]

I mean understandble, most of the times it's a positioning and dodging game that's about it lmao

but sometimes you STILL need to know how to actually dodge lol

[limpid lily]

[dusk wren]

keep smiting bro, if anybody tells you shit it's because you make them feel obsolete

[limpid lily]

not my middle finger tho I'll tell ya that

[limpid lily]

so far nobody has complained xD, I've played a good 6-7 games with this setup so far in H40

[dusk wren]

btw is this enhanced psionics

yeah it is

[limpid lily]

I think people's hatred for garden + rotten armor trumps wahtever hatred for smite lol

[limpid lily]

yep

[jovial juniper]

Enemy of my enemy type shit

[limpid lily]

if u dont take empowered psionics for smite u trollin lul

at least for scrier

[limpid lily]

lowkey this setup makes rotten armor a cakewalk xD

well, that is if ppl melee them while smited

but ye

[dusk wren]

i mean yeah, it sounds like the perfect counter

[verbal verge]

My dumb ass whos never used smite befor😔

[limpid lily]

nah if u play bubble or sth, still take warp siphon for -peril generation and stuff

and empyric resolve

[dusk wren]

you smite so everyone is stuck, people can actually kill the gardeners and then deal with the massively armoured enemies, everyone is happy

[verbal verge]

Im only doing it for the penence usualy i go brain burst

[limpid lily]

tho it's ALMOST impossible to distinguish garden lol while smiting

[dusk wren]

makes sense

[tulip kettle]

this clip just shows why smiting is useless

meanwhile inferno does this, and actually kills the things

https://tenor.com/view/roll-safe-clever-think-ahead-reece-simpson-gif-14469436

you cant stack uncanny with smite

[jovial juniper]

Notices how they talk about uncanny

#nooticing

https://tenor.com/view/galaxypeabrain-gif-11486576679687144877

[pure plinth]

how would one make smite more active and interesting in gameplay

[tulip kettle]

not using it

[pure plinth]

like, smite for some seconds and try to weave it into combos

[tulip kettle]

but fr do the rework like i and others have suggested

smite becomes an ability that you channel then release like BB

once released it stuns enemies for 6 seconds and spreads to other enemies like it does now

[jovial juniper]

Electric Primer smite

[tulip kettle]

thereby, closest enemies get stunned first, and activate again first. you are free to actually do stuff during the time they are stunned and its spreading

[jovial juniper]

https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=Ok18nPkcoMmseiS9

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
Imagine like a mini vent
Or Arby's shield special

But electric

[sturdy dagger]

so im updating my builds using the pinned guide since i havent played since the rework, i might be blind but i dont think they have recommended blessings/perks for our melee options on there? (Mainly looking at finally building and using that damm dueling sword)

[tulip kettle]

theres a link to it at the bottom, or just ask us here

but tbh, duelling sword is not that great these days

theres not really a use case for it over running deimos if you want it for damage, or knife if you want mobility

generally your melee weapon should complement the rest of your kit and fill in the gaps in effectiveness not covered by your ranged and blitz choices

then for blessings and perks, there are meta choices that are taken for usually self explanatory reasons, and certain choices that are never taken because they are universally bad

for duelling sword, its going to be carapace perk, then either unyielding or maniac depending on what specifically you want it for. for blessings, if uncanny is available for a weapon you always take it. then your second blessing is to choice, likely either a crit based blessing, or agile.

[sturdy dagger]

I might be blind but i dont see it. The "Melee Weapon Blessings & Mechanics" is just like, a player made super wiki of all the blessings, what they actually do and what weapons there on which is nice but i was looking for specific setups/builds

[tulip kettle]

yeah thats what i meant. really for blessings and perks you will get to the point where you just, know and understand what should be taken and why, before that, just ask

i covered DS above for you

[limpid lily]

you do realize I was playing Rotten Armor + Garden lol? Stack uncanny with inferno all you like, you aint killing those clowncars of Crushers in 2-3s before they pound your team xD, like u probably were doing sth different obviously but cmon lol

plus, why Uncanny argument even xD

[tulip kettle]

look at the scoreboard i posted

[limpid lily]

yeah I saw

[sturdy dagger]

yeah i see it ty

[tulip kettle]

this is also garden and rot

and you notice im actually killing the armour

not jus tickling it and killing the trash that anyone can kill

your clip shows you doing precisely nothing to the armour

meanwhile inferno + uncanny stacking does this

[sturdy dagger]

im not a proffesional man but stacking uncanny and THEN stacking soulblaze is... a choice...for sure

[tulip kettle]

he is bad and plays smite

dont stress it

[sturdy dagger]

i dont see nothing wrong with smite enjoyers

[tulip kettle]

i do and those clips show why

[limpid lily]

I mean it's inferno, most of the dmg comes from deleting trash after all. I REALLY doubt you're killing rotten armor Crushers with your uncanny + inferno lmao

[sturdy dagger]

u can stack uncanny with the force push lmao??

[tulip kettle]

look at the scoreboard

[limpid lily]

those arent rotten armor crushers...

[tulip kettle]

it shows that im doing everything

please dont talk

you dont even understand the mechanic

[limpid lily]

not to mention, if you had garden in the mix there, you those other crushers are gonna be getting healed lmao

before the garden dies

[sturdy dagger]

outside of like havoc 40 or something that seems like an unfair mindset, smite may not be great but what if im in the mood 2 be a semi supportive lightning man

[tulip kettle]

it is garden and rot

[sturdy dagger]

#PleaseBuffElectricStaff

[tulip kettle]

i think you are dumb AF and dont even understand the interaction

[glacial garnet]

Is that morrow behind a pillar

[tulip kettle]

yeah they are all in the psykanium, its how you re-listen to the lore stuff

[glacial garnet]

Huh, never knew

[sturdy dagger]

wait really? i swear it got buffed recently for no reason and people where freaking out cause it was already kinda broken

[tulip kettle]

its, fine, and good on other classes

but on psyker theres no real reaosns to take it over other choices

force swords have better output and easier uncanny stacking

[jovial juniper]

It's broken on every class

[tulip kettle]

and knives have better mobility

[glacial garnet]

Asking myself the same question

[tulip kettle]

yes indeed

force push is always a weak spot hit and has 9m range

[sturdy dagger]

#NumberOneKnifeHater right here

[glacial garnet]

WOW

[tulip kettle]

plus pushes crushers out of overhead animation

and maintains peril

[limpid lily]

I mean it ain't that hard to fathom lol, you're buffing the soulblaze dmg with more ADM from uncanny strikes, simple really. Uncanny also applies to other enemies too so no shit you're dealing a fuck ton of dmg, Inferno's known to delete trash horde not sure why that's a surprise, but comparing it to Smite stun-botting isn't exactly a good comparison, with Uncanny no less

not to mention, dmg-stackign is pretty damn easy with garden, especially with inferno staff

[glacial garnet]

i have been sleeping on it

[hybrid wigeon]

The eepy grindset

[limpid lily]

I wasn't even focused on dmg with Smite and still got top dmg in Rotten Armor + Garden, so ye lol, just saying, comparaitvely

[sturdy dagger]

im kinda struggling 2 understand what arugment ur even trying 2 make here, i do also believe that uncanny inferno probably does alot more work than holding smite for 10 minutes

[limpid lily]

he's comparing oranges to apples or sth

[hybrid wigeon]

This u?

[tulip kettle]

no im comparing actually doing anything to doing nothing

[limpid lily]

2 completely different builds for different purposes, one is for team support with stun-botting, other is definitely more dmg no doubt

[marble crater]

[glacial garnet]

Heehee yesh that mee~

[tulip kettle]

but he tries to stack uncanny before applying soulblaze 🙃

[marble crater]

Ah fair enough then

[tulip kettle]

and is trying to say "smite is good, actually" while posting clips of him doing precisely nothing

[marble crater]

Proceed

[hybrid wigeon]

Best Soul Blaze Builds?

[tulip kettle]

what exactly are you looking for? what difficulty content? with inferno staff or nah?

[glacial garnet]

Have you tried the staff that aplies soul blaze

Idk

Might work

[limpid lily]

just saying, I dont see them crushers being stunned in your video you posted (which isnt even rotten armor + garden in psykanium there), while I agree with you on the fact that it definitely does more dmg...you aint killing them fast enoug before they pound your team

[hybrid wigeon]

Just the best way of burning people with your silliness (extreme mental illness)

[hybrid wigeon]

Holy shit

No way

[tulip kettle]

the absolute strongest soulblaze builds look like this:

[limpid lily]

and I did it properly afterwards, it deals like 70-80 per tick at best, with no stagger lol, against rotten armor.

[glacial garnet]

Me when the fire staff does fire

[tulip kettle]

with a few points left over

[tulip kettle]

just stfu dude

it deals 1000 dmg per tick

plz stop talking

[limpid lily]

my guy, those are maulers and ragers...

[hybrid wigeon]

This isn't Darktide, it's a Barbeque!

[sturdy dagger]

ive yet 2 see the properly example man

[limpid lily]

hang on

[tulip kettle]

my guy its a random clip from the first recording in my folder, i have posted 2 clips of the mechanic now, idk wtf u think youre doing

[glacial garnet]

I just realized the reason i've never been good at flame psyker is cose i only used the staff and never aplied uncanny, whist having an uncanny melee...

[sturdy dagger]

i should prolly read patchnotes but has the electrokinetic staff gotten any love at all? its been so ass for so long

[tulip kettle]

soulblaze does 0.05 damage to carapace

[glacial garnet]

I am kinda, maybe, possibly, not smart

[tulip kettle]

uncanny at 5 stacks makes it do full dmg

meanwhile with smite you are doing precisely 0 damage and begging your team to play the game for you

[limpid lily]

the one you posted above is against a bunch of NORMAL AHH CRUSHERS, and you're not even staggering them, more dmg? for sure, but bro...cmon, comparing it to MY clip where I was stunning the shit out of clowncars of Rotten Crushers? Not at all the same thing.

You can think smite is dogshit and I respect your opinion, but cmon, stop comparing them like they're somehow the same lol

[brazen warren]

step one adjust for room to kite, step two apply soul blaze stacks, step three kite with uncanny sword pushing for armor pen, step four reapply soul blaze every 4-5 pushes

neat, learned a new thing

[tulip kettle]

and posting scoreboards with 2m damage and saying "this is good, actually" when i posted a 5.2m dmg scoreboard, with over 3m damage to melee elites, and then trying to say its not doing what im syaing its doing

[glacial garnet]

Same

[tulip kettle]

just stfu

[marble crater]

You can be good without doing that, not doing that doesn't mean you are bad

[zealous wing]

erm actually i refuse to believe anything could be better than smite because some youtuber made a permasmite build that makes me feel safe with my skissues

[marble crater]

Blocked

[limpid lily]

oh no, I'm playing a build that focuses on stagger and team support and despite that I'm still dealing top dmg but less than INFERNO staff !?!?!?!? wow, so surprised.

[zealous wing]

[limpid lily]

never have I said smite's dps is the same as inferno xD

[glacial garnet]

Not using half my build is q bit pepega

[limpid lily]

not to mention, bro brought in Uncanny stacking lol

[hearty wolf]

Another day, another smite conversation

[hybrid wigeon]

All I did was ask fir a Soulblaze build and I started a war

[zealous wing]

smite damage means nothing tbh

[glacial garnet]

Smite tends to do that

Fries brains

[zealous wing]

you arent killing the important things with smite either, you see inferno kill crushers and you cant and you cry

[sturdy dagger]

i should hope so? thats a pretty important tech for any slightly hard content lmao

[hearty wolf]

Smite deals tons of damage because you get kicked quicker so you can move onto the next game where you can actually be useful

[hybrid wigeon]

What I wanna do to chat rn

[limpid lily]

I mean no doubt if I was using Inferno

but I wasnt so yeh

[tulip kettle]

idk how many melee elites i kill in this clip... 40 or so? more?

[marble crater]

Meh, as long as you complete the mission and don't die all the time it doesn't really matter. I use very little melee when playing psyker... But other people flame me for being a console player, so maybe there is so truth to what you say after all maybe I am bad

[sturdy dagger]

i can enjoy smite in a casual qp game but like....i feel like its just the lazy choice for anything highre than that

let me pretend im helping by watching my team do all the work while i kinda somewaht maybe cc

sometiems

[hybrid wigeon]

I should have ate before I left the house

[tulip kettle]

exactly that

do nothing, pray my team can carry me

[sturdy dagger]

every fucking trans girl ik is incapable of feeding themselves

[hybrid wigeon]

Lmao

[glacial garnet]

Dude usw the fucking stacking enemy kills mods i cant fucking count

[hybrid wigeon]

Also I did NOT think it was that obvious 😭

[marble crater]

Please don't out me like that

[glacial garnet]

Literally says x killed y xtimes

[sturdy dagger]

insert 20 red arrows doing spins

[tulip kettle]

yeah i could do that

but then i dont get to fill the killfeed for minutes at a time and inflate my epeen

[hearty wolf]

But you're cc'ing the important enemies like the bosses and the blue ragers

Right?

[hybrid wigeon]

....

[sturdy dagger]

this also seems to be a universal thing for yall

[limpid lily]

I mean you kinda have to take EMpowered Psionics to do meaningful stuff with smite, but even then am I to say it's better dmg than Inferno? Fuck no, but you're still frying trash and holding Crusher clowncars in place, I mean that's what you're running for so idk what else ppl expect lol.

[marble crater]

How many do you know that this is a repeating theme?

[hybrid wigeon]

Just got blinded by the sun

[graceful arch]

Reapplying soul blaze is unnecessary if there's enough elites clumped together as perilous combustion and shriek will keep the stacks going

[glacial garnet]

But sir, imagine
Doomshizzle killed crushers x2536
Doomshizzle killed scab rager x10000

[tulip kettle]

right so, again, you are playing "contribute nothing more than an arbiter shock mine and pray my team carries me" and calling it gameplay

[marble crater]

Domshizzle died to Poxwalker x2

[sturdy dagger]

all of them.........all 3... including that user who i dont actually know but seems to continue the trend

[glacial garnet]

Much more penis enlarging that text spam

[marble crater]

[hybrid wigeon]

Penice...

[rancid jasper]

Does gun psyker always use scrier's and disrupt destiny?

[tulip kettle]

pretty much yeah

[marble crater]

only 98% of the time

[rancid jasper]

Or is barrier also a valid option

[tulip kettle]

you can play bubble knight

[hybrid wigeon]

I mean you ca use Telekine Shield if you're a PUSSY

[tulip kettle]

its pretty valid

but it lowers your dmg output in exchange for more team safety

[rancid jasper]

Telekine shield is really fun

[tulip kettle]

i somtimes run the big blue diaper if my team is not very good

[rancid jasper]

Less ooga booga than scrier

[hybrid wigeon]

Is Scriers or Shriek better for melee?

[zealous wing]

bubbleknight is what got me through the 2 h40's i've sucessfully done with dom (i was the BK)

[tulip kettle]

its main purpose is "stand here, morons"

[glacial garnet]

Shield is no longer that viable, range fire isnt that threatening anymore

[sturdy dagger]

thats interesting i do the opposite, if my team is buns im just going all dmg and soloing the mission

[glacial garnet]

Who the fuck uses shriek for melee

[tulip kettle]

scriers

shrieks main purpose is overcapping soulblaze

[zealous wing]

its mega viable for controlling where the team should move to

if you have bubble you have movement and pathing control

[tulip kettle]

now they added 50% quell to scriers, scriers is generally better for non soulblaze focussed DPS

[deft stump]

It was 2 backstabs.

[tulip kettle]

factual and based

[glacial garnet]

Never tried scriers with flame staff

[tulip kettle]

dont its poopy

[rancid jasper]

Why does no one acknowledge the wall option 😭

[tulip kettle]

because walls are bad

observe

[rancid jasper]

Ikik

[zealous wing]

because the wall is only good for a KR meme build

[rancid jasper]

But

[rancid jasper]

It's fun

[tulip kettle]

notice the wall not doing what its meant to do

3 times in the space of a few seconds

[glacial garnet]

Domshizzle why do you have clips for rveryrhing

[deft stump]

Dom? You know I'm brittle dog and Nuncio.

[zealous wing]

because he plays a lot

[rancid jasper]

Skill issue

[zealous wing]

and he has had these conversations before

[tulip kettle]

the clip is literally called "dog skissue" in my folder

[glacial garnet]

Tqksykqtjatk

[zealous wing]

my personal favourite is the clip demonstrating why not to stand near barrels if youre on a team with dom

[tulip kettle]

but yes, walls poopy because they literally dont work

[hybrid wigeon]

When she Nuncio on my Aquila

[zealous wing]

hell you cant even WALK past barrels or RUN past them when doms around

[marble crater]

Should have dodged, smh

[tulip kettle]

look at the dodge counter

i literally do

[hybrid wigeon]

Dude the urge to shoot barrels is so bad

[deft stump]

Dropping the beats, HARD.

[rancid jasper]

Should have primary fired it, smh

[marble crater]

Sorry I play on console, I am still getting used to being able to see the dodge counter

[glacial garnet]

I love dodging chargers dogs snipers and trappers only to be hit regardless

It makes my pp flacid

[hybrid wigeon]

Can't remember how many teammates I've sent flying with yellow barrels

[tulip kettle]

another skissue clip

[rancid jasper]

Trappers have actual aimbot istg

[zealous wing]

i mean... they do

[rancid jasper]

U right

[hybrid wigeon]

Just dodge stupid

[glacial garnet]

Me when i get hit by the wind force of a trapper net and grt trapped

[deft stump]

And wallhacks. You'll know when they trap you through a wall or a door.

[glacial garnet]

I fuckibg

Loathe qhwn that happens

[rancid jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-trow-dodge-ball-catch-ready-gif-9232778

[tulip kettle]

twofer featuring hexis

[hybrid wigeon]

The muscle memory to dodge is so locked in my brain that when I hear a Trappers gun charging I instantly dodge left

[rancid jasper]

When you dodge and you get black hole sucked into the net anyway

[glacial garnet]

I get hit regardless cose of fuckass hit reg

[hybrid wigeon]

Or you dodge into a crusher overhead

[limpid lily]

this is against 10 ROTTEN ARMOR crushers, no garden...I mean, it's not TERRIBLE dmg...this is with penetrating flame too, like 160-180 dmg per tick (at lower HP = less dmg resistance) so...idk, it's certainly more dmg than Empowered Smite (no question about that ever), but this is still no FAST lol.

I think if there was like 1-2 garden in the mix there, they'd be healing back up permanently anyway lol, good for dmg stacking tho

[glacial garnet]

Everyone stopped to watch the video lmao

[rancid jasper]

I didn't, I stopped to scratch my butt

[tulip kettle]

pen flame does noting

no max soulblaze stacks

[rancid jasper]

It hurt

[tulip kettle]

letting uncanny drop

not maxing uncanny

low peril

idk what to tell you dude

[glacial garnet]

No class

[limpid lily]

im not that good of a psyker anyway, this is using my existing build

[tulip kettle]

seems skissue to me

[glacial garnet]

Fake shoes

Drip negative