psyker-class

[acoustic jacinth]

Comparatively it may seem a little unfair however

[analog verge]

buddy

[candid temple]

Buff gaze to 50% tdr please.

[acoustic jacinth]

Cases like inferno staff have always been that strong at it

[candid temple]

[acoustic jacinth]

Lol

[analog verge]

i just described zealots until death, arbites shock mines, and ogryns toughness talents

i do not actually want psyker to get any of them

i mean i would because it would be hilarious

[candid temple]

Gaze meleeker is big tanky and killy.

[radiant frigate]

also fair yeah

[analog verge]

mortis trials blessings should be added as permanent buff rewards for clearing havoc

[radiant frigate]

can skip stam curio and get more toughness

[candid temple]

Or you bring bubbble and say no to range.

[analog verge]

fatshark. hire me.

[radiant frigate]

to get more toughness with your toughness

[analog verge]

switching back to scriers after playing bubbleknight is so freeing

i can just zoom and kill everything

[zealous wing]

bestiaries done

[hoary mauve]

nice!

[ornate hamlet]

dump stat is warp resistance or mobility on blaze force sword?

[marble crater]

Warp res

[wraith sphinx]

Nice, I think I still have a couple hundred or so left

man they were so scary on that event pre-nerf

[rigid sky]

In all 5 instances including greatswords, dump warp resistance.

I can see some Illisi builds dumping mobility, but that means taking Illisi lol

[analog verge]

back in my day illisi was the golden child

[ornate hamlet]

thats what mine got

60

rest all 80

[marble crater]

Perfect then

There are benefits to having warp res even lower than 60, but that can be quite expensive to get, so only really worth trying to get if you have crafted everything else you need and are just bored

[ornate hamlet]

though why cant all stats have 80?

[marble crater]

Because that's how the game works

[ornate hamlet]

yea i know but why 80 why not 100 for example

[marble crater]

I don't know what else to tell you

[novel yoke]

I have a question, does the inferno staff not count as ranged?

[wraith sphinx]

I have a decisive answer

[novel yoke]

for the purpose of weekly contract

[ornate hamlet]

and why do i gotta use mods so i see the real values

[zinc phoenix]

Back in my day we only had oscurus

[ornate hamlet]

cuz the vanilla stats is bs

[rigid sky]

Symbolic of us having reject-tier armaments

[marble crater]

Because VT2 had 100 later on as extra strong weapons and maybe they wanted/want to do that as well for Darktide

[rigid sky]

Or, they planned to increase the cap later

Or have special weapons that go above or something

[ornate hamlet]

whats vt?

vermintide?

[novel yoke]

fatshark on their way to add p2w weapons lets goo

[wraith sphinx]

yes

[marble crater]

Either way the answer is "because fatshark said so"

[ornate hamlet]

ah i dont like that game

at all

the heroes are too squishy for me

[analog verge]

harder game but with fewer enemies

[ornate hamlet]

more squishy than a lvl 1 psyker

[novel yoke]

oh I know the pain of that, but it comes down to skill issue

[analog verge]

you dont have a safety net like toughness does

dont get hit, gain skill solution

[ornate hamlet]

i liked gameplay but not so much the

lack of sprint

[analog verge]

you have fewer tools, so make better use of the ones you do have pretty much

[novel yoke]

only thing I hate about VT is the RNG weapon system

[rigid sky]

Temp HP

Is basically toughness, no?

[novel yoke]

drives me insane

[analog verge]

temp hp is MUCH less easy to gain than toughness

[rigid sky]

I stopped playing it because I hate friendly fire in games

[analog verge]

and it will NOT protect you

[rigid sky]

Prefer DT based on that

[analog verge]

toughness guarantees you can take at least one extra hit

in comparison its a much more forgiving system

[novel yoke]

it kinda is, but there are differences

1. temp HP + regular HP is a full bar, so you have to lose some health as opposed to having both
2. toughness blocks one shot except for snipers
3. toughness regens passively and actively, temp health goes down slowly if you dont kill anything

temp hp is the same idea but its a much weaker version with many drawbacks

[visual trellis]

What is the difference between venting shriek and scryers
Because it kinda looks like scryers is just a straight upgrade

[analog verge]

venting shriek staggers enemies and with one of the upgrades applies soulblaze

[zealous wing]

the direct attack does, the soulblaze DoT isnt ranged

[novel yoke]

thanks

[analog verge]

it is incredibly strong in high density environments

[novel yoke]

I was confused why it sometimes didnt go up

[zealous wing]

its basically, shriek for AOE / crowd control / through walls and floors killing, SG for manual killing

[visual trellis]

Man why don’t mine ever stagger lol

[analog verge]

hard to wrong with fucking infinite cleave

[visual trellis]

My shriek applies like A STACK of soulblaze and that’s it no killing no stagger :(

[zealous wing]

gotta shriek when your peril is high

[visual trellis]

I always do it at like 100 percent

[ornate hamlet]

lmao i just get hang of psyker, im closer to enemies than the ogryn is KEK

[zealous wing]

do you have the creeping flames upgrade?

[visual trellis]

Lemme check

[plucky flax]

Bruh moment

[rigid sky]

Shriek knocks dogs off people, and Creeping Flames is massive

[analog verge]

you ever wanted an ability that scales pretty much infinitely

venting shriek baby

[visual trellis]

Yes

[zealous wing]

then youre definitely applying more than one stack

[visual trellis]

Idk maybe I’m just killing them too fast

But I know for damn sure my shriek almost never staggers and when it does it’s only non-elite units

[analog verge]

whats your build look like

and which staff

[ornate hamlet]

the skill tree of the heroes is also a feature i dont enjoy entirely

[analog verge]

i enjoy its simplicity and i like a lot of the talents which dont really have equivalents in DT (also, innate talents for every career is great)

but i definitely prefer how DT does it now

[visual trellis]

Electro-Kinetic it’s my preferred staff

[rigid sky]

You want to be at high peril when you shriek

[ornate hamlet]

not to mention

the matchmaking there

more than half matches i played in company of bots

no people

if ppl it was then they didnt know jackshit english

[analog verge]

i just used server browser more than qp

[visual trellis]

PlayStation app decided to not work so can’t unless I just take pictures of my tv

[ornate hamlet]

and the hero i liked is always taken

after a truckload of attempts i finally managed to join

a dutch

team

and they didnt blame me for being such a noob

[zealous wing]

the day they drop armoured pants for psyker will be a very good day indeed

[ornate hamlet]

thats one of a kind cupping technique

[potent echo]

anyone gets the bug where your character permanently gets like +200% dodge speed after being ressed

apparently its the stims

[long saddle]

ye tainted stims

[wraith sphinx]

Oh hey I had that exact phone model until a couple weeks ago

[patent mango]

the rat took it

[hearty wolf]

[strong gulch]

six loading in

[weary crane]

They should do 6 player missions

When the new class drops

[uncut sinew]

6 book zealots gonna make the game a walkthrough

scenery walk if you will

[jovial juniper]

"Procision through Atoma"

A pilgrimage if you will

https://tenor.com/view/catholic-procession-laura-haddock-zoe-walker-white-lines-holy-week-activity-gif-17256268

[uncut sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-the-voices-jolly-christmas-gif-5774532700081404887

indeed.

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-christmas-posting-jolly-cat-christmas-this-cat-looks-at-jolly-people-gif-4925436984769801382

[zinc phoenix]

double strike team missions got teased in the cathedral mission intro

id love an 8x player mission where the two STs are split up at the start doing different things then unite at the midpoint and carry on together til the finale

[dusk wren]

what do you mean

[eager knoll]

could a ratling class be cool if he had limited ability to climb walls

[dusk wren]

i think a ratling class would be a poor fit for the gameplay of darktide, even if i wish for a sniper rifle

[eager knoll]

could lean into explosive devices

[dusk wren]

i think it would be a poor fit because ratlings would never engage in melee

[radiant frigate]

ratling but it's 1000 rats in a trenchcoat

[eager knoll]

a whole separate rogue trader vessel containing an assortment of abhumans would be lovely

[radiant frigate]

become a ravenous swarm that eats people a la dishonored

[eager knoll]

put an eldar on it nobody will notice

[dusk wren]

apart from ogryns, i think GW pretty much gave up on other abhumans

[eager knoll]

for dis game?

[dusk wren]

in general, but i'm not a big warhammer lore dude

[eager knoll]

there are definitely squats in 40k currently

[dusk wren]

they are not abhumans i don't think, they are a faction of their own

[eager knoll]

leagues of votann are not squats

squats are abhumans

[dusk wren]

if anything, i think in lore the imperial squats got wiped out?

[eager knoll]

no

yes but no

there's squats that are called squats in the 40k model range

necromunda has squats so there are presumably squats wherever else there is crime

[eager knoll]

ratlings get a bionic arm for a melee weapon on tabletop

if devs wanted to make a ratling fit, they could do it

[dusk wren]

i don't think they will add any class with a size smaller than humans

[eager knoll]

they don't have to be snipers, they can chuck lots of bombs

[eager knoll]

i thought this would be because being short as a shooter/ranged thing would be annoying

[dusk wren]

but i'm ok with anything as long as the equipment isn't 90% recycled from other classes

[eager knoll]

that's why i also thought that allowing them to climb walls/hang up higher than an ogyn's head could be cool

[dusk wren]

i think it's because the level design doesn't really allow small models yeah

[upbeat kestrel]

shorter than shortest human the editor can make is out

[eager knoll]

making all the terrain climbable would be a nightmare

but the implementation of the "thinking" that the arbites dog does is already a nightmare

[dusk wren]

yeah i just think they will go with the simpler route and just add something like the admech

[eager knoll]

the lag between 1, 2, or 3 dogs in the same match is very tangible

[dusk wren]

would be kinda cool to have like

[upbeat kestrel]

admech and or if they be so daring eldar could be taller than humans shorter than ogryn

[dusk wren]

an offmap ratling that snipes elites occasionally tho

like the dog, but offmap

[eager knoll]

environmental ratling 💀

[dusk wren]

you could have something similar in payday 2

pretty cool really

[eager knoll]

the darktide lore shows an abandoned (damaged) imperial ship of some sort down in the hive

admech would probably want to get involved with that

[dusk wren]

don't hivegangs also do savage

i don't know their lore, but it sounds like something they would do

[eager knoll]

i think there's one named gang in our hive

but that's the water cartel from only one part of the hive

would be easy to fit into the existing lore but idk how stoked people would be for that

[dusk wren]

the cult of admonition and the water cartels are fighting eachother in the story

so it could be something

[eager knoll]

all the dialogue relating to the water cartel makes them out to be as worthy of death (if not more) than the infested we're fightnign now

[dusk wren]

yeah, they apparently allied with the cult before being betrayed by them

so maybe that's out of the picture

[eager knoll]

if a ganger class is added, i hope they add 100% team damage exclusively to people that use that class

😁

[dusk wren]

lol

[eager knoll]

and stagger and impact

u just spawn as an enemy and die bro

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf Thanks for joining my baby games.

[hearty wolf]

o7

[strong gulch]

Need to step away from game tho.

[hearty wolf]

1500 more enemies to be engulfed in smoke and then hit 5 enemies with frag

then just missions and I'm done

[hearty wolf]

LMAO

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cackling-evil-laugh-witch-creeping-gif-5632950

[quiet inlet]

as big as the reticle is, I Have a strangely hard time hitting with shot pistol

like it requires more effort than it seems like it should

[fiery stratus]

It has a very tight spread and almost only hits where you aim

Also has a high minimum pellet count so it has big drop off if all the pellets dont hit

[lethal swan]

For the flame staff, one thing I've never really known is how long do you charge it before you burn with it lol

do you just charge it a little bit and let it rip?

[verbal thistle]

1st time use full charge, for max blaze away

if at max blaze away then right click and let go as soon as possible

This might be outdated though, havent used purg in like a year

[marble crater]

It's all vibes

[strong gulch]

About 45% charge let's you keep blaze away stacks.

[ripe obsidian]

2 days until we can all be disappointed by the new class not being Ad Mech

[marble crater]

I would just charge for how long the situation allows me to

[strong gulch]

Don't have to start with full charge. It's nice if you have the room / safety to start with that, but not needed.

[jovial juniper]

It's going to be something more obscure

Mentioned in a forgotten book

And when you read it

It has like 2 lines

[marble crater]

Obscurus class confirmed

[strong gulch]

But you can look at your stacks and see how long they last while charging.

[verbal thistle]

obscurus mentioned

[strong gulch]

Not me. I'm too ignorant to know anything.

[marble crater]

New class will be sisters of battle to finally make zealot 100% obsolete

[radiant frigate]

new class will be howling banshee

[ripe obsidian]

Awooooooo, banshees of Tertium

[quiet inlet]

Votann, 100% chance

[ripe obsidian]

I wouldn't hate that, but I would prefer Ad Mech

[analog verge]

new class will be blank

psykers will just stop being able to do anything when they're in coherency

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cataaaaaaaa-gif-23904304

[marble crater]

I actually thought female Loner is more popular, but apparently it's not. How can this be?

[radiant frigate]

it's because people have a soft spot for french accents

including my bf

[marble crater]

Clearly those people are not from Europe

[marble crater]

Do you have a French accent?

[radiant frigate]

sometimes, when i decide to have one

[marble crater]

Scandalous

[zinc phoenix]

Savant is sane and taking things seriously, the others are not

[cosmic cobalt]

well my beloved exist and is the reason why

[zinc phoenix]

Also it’s fun playing savant as a melee

purge the heretics

[marble crater]

Sane psyker sounds like an oxymoron

[pure plinth]

how should i build the laspistol for a gun psyker?

[cosmic cobalt]

normal

[zinc phoenix]

Well she does tell people “hey my powers are dangerous even to me” and if you have male and female savant together they talk about how their powers are growing every day and it’s not a good thing

[verbal thistle]

in what way?

weapon it self

talents?

mark?

[zinc phoenix]

Also savant’s lines with the barbies are great. I thought she’d be into them because LEX but actually she seems them as jack booted thugs with no brains while they hate her for being an enforcer who wastes time with boring stuff like, uh, gathering evidence and due process 😂

[tulip kettle]

my main psyker is savant and i love her with the random little bits of french she throws in

but shes also a massive fucking nerd

[zinc phoenix]

Fire and crits

[tulip kettle]

"the statistics on this facilities water contributions to atoma are fascinating, really!"

yeah love nobody thinks that except you

[zinc phoenix]

ride me like one of your camelids, bad boy veteran

[pure plinth]

emphatic evasion, scriers, disrupt destiny, mettle

[zinc phoenix]

The flirting with the criminal vet is hilarious

[verbal thistle]

so you only want to know what to run on the pistol?

[marble crater]

To be fair I do regularly switch between Savant and Loner prefer Loner though. Sometimes also male Seer

[verbal thistle]

dumdum is the best dps if you fight within 12.5 meters

[pure plinth]

yes and other relevant info if be

[verbal thistle]

infernus is amazing boss dps

desperado is good crit synergy

any combo of the 3

[zinc phoenix]

And also the name is great 😂

[verbal thistle]

dump mob or stability

perks are crit if infernus

flak unyield

[radiant frigate]

the camelid racing is said to be superlative

[royal totem]

Laspistol good at abusing ee?

[verbal thistle]

ee

ye

high base crit

15%

[royal totem]

Hmm 15 doesnt seem that high

[verbal thistle]

base

average crit is 5

0-5

despo, perk and gaze is like 60%

crit

[prime elk]

when i tried despo it had horrible uptime

not sure if it's a mod issue

[wraith sphinx]

I can't not respect the hustle of staying cheery however you can

I ❤️ savants

[radiant frigate]

yeah same but grumpy slav witch is just a vibe

[wraith sphinx]

Immaculately so and I respect it

But I'll always be team french girl witch

[tulip kettle]

Attende, a switch!

[radiant frigate]

a nauseating denouement

(compellingly visceral)

[lethal swan]

is this what you run on Obscurus for say a Voidblast staff build?

[tulip kettle]

i prefer unyielding over maniac but otherwise yeah

[lethal swan]

yeah I always bounce between unyielding and maniac since I freaking hate the charger trains lmao

[modest perch]

idk about obscurus but deimos can just one shot them

although i suppose the argument could be made for making it more effective against rager packs which are far more common than unyielding

[open iris]

It's additive, the closer you get to 50% the better

That's why I take 5% crit on purge staff

Tho for havoc I need that extra damage against crushers so I take carapace

[quiet inlet]

@tulip kettle I did it

[lethal swan]

What's a good melee weapon to run if you're running an EK Staff build?

Do you run something with horde clear capability, or do you still run Deimos or DS

[strong gulch]

EK is more of less single target.

So having something that can handle hordes is the better pick.

FGS, illisi, even lacerate knife.

but with warp ghost, non warp horde clear is easier to use because you don't have to micro manage peril as much

[graceful arch]

With ek venting shriek I build Deimos just to deal with crushers, because venting shriek and perilous combustion is my horde clear but I haven't really tried it in havoc and can't tell you if soulblaze does enough on it's own there.

[strong gulch]

so illisi is even less of an option that it was before

EK has never been great against crushers, and their health pool is gigger now. So that's another point against illisi.

[lethal swan]

hmmm ok

got it lol

I guess I'll just run FGS

i really like the FGS on the melee builds

I'm just getting into playing psyker again for real for the first time since the rework and man

usually its when I take some toughness damage and then go down lol

[strong gulch]

If you want other builds or contexts as to why something is chosen, check the build bonanza int he pins.

[lethal swan]

yeah that's the one I'm following!

it just didn't have a melee weapon listed for the DK builds

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian Melee options for EK are missing.

[graceful arch]

I just make my own builds and then realize they are 90% the same as bonanza anyways

Nothing to difficult with build crafting psyker rn

[lethal swan]

😂

•

[analog verge]

just use your staff melee

[graceful arch]

Whatever you feel like.

[graceful arch]

True

[lethal swan]

ye

gonna use the FGS

psyker is really fun

just need to stop freaking going down lmao

[analog verge]

what do you usually go down to

[ripe obsidian]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'll fix it

[graceful arch]

I've blown myself up way too many times in h40.

[lethal swan]

Poxwalkers

honestly its just me needing to figure out the rhythem of combat of when to be BLASTIN' and then keeping things at arm's length

[analog verge]

lol

[royal totem]

I blow myself up in malice

[analog verge]

but fair enough, the small horde enemies did have the most kills in that fatshark stats video they made

[lethal swan]

just like getting used to whenever the frontline gets breached and you start getting hit

and don't regen toughness fast enough

also man I had no diea that on the TK staff you spam left click

now i know!

[analog verge]

not a fan of it that way, i hate the staff lmbs

but its undeniably effective

[lethal swan]

yeah

[graceful arch]

I never feel I have any problem managing toughness on psyker in it's current iteration

[graceful arch]

Tk staff?

[analog verge]

the electrokinetic staff

[graceful arch]

Ah

Just never saw it abbreviated tk

[icy breach]

OH ye are you the boi who catalogues all psyker builds?

[ripe obsidian]

It is me.

[tulip kettle]

perfection

he is him.

https://tenor.com/view/bigbird-one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-others-gif-11251276

[wraith sphinx]

A GRATIFYING eruption

[icy breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbGnaRK35z0

[modest perch]

eruption ? i always heard something else

[icy breach]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fc4f03e-d841-412a-849f-8ebb94b2958b/the-good-smyker-build

[icy breach]

It is done

[ripe obsidian]

I will add those after D&D

[lethal swan]

I mistyped, I was thinking of telekinesis lmao

and yeah I'm just not used to the builds where you don't have Quietude for regenning toughness

[wraith sphinx]

one of the zealots says "sniper" in such a scuffed way I keep imagining he says "no more smyker" and I keep chuckling to myself like a dumbass every time it happens

[peak sundial]

the appearance of a sniper does generally precede the removal of a smyker

[austere warren]

If they're really bad about tunnelvision yeah.

[narrow herald]

Isn't this just the old Smyker build?

[icy breach]

nope; the old one was before the talent tree change; this one is after Bound by Duty update
i simply updated the guide while putting it on private then re-publicized

That mission was... hard

[strong gulch]

Food

[marble crater]

[cosmic sigil]

I was reading the description of JaD. How does that work for a meleeker using SG and warp unbound?

[verbal thistle]

always having 25% dr

bascially

[cosmic sigil]

Wait. That's busted.

[verbal thistle]

plus upside is that at 100% peril if you take any instance of damage you go down to 97% peril

toughness damage counts

[zinc phoenix]

So update on sg zap stick in a melee build… and it’s kinda nice? You do end up having to melee the bosses down — which is honestly fine and I’ve gotten better at boss fighting because of it 😂 — but it’s great seeing a burster and just knocking it over 😂

Stagger into stab has also been great for bulwarks. The one issue is the combo with warp ghost which means you are constantly at risk of head pop

[royal totem]

Lore accurate is to shoot bosses

[icy breach]

Thats a classic; sniper aimed at arby and you walked into the shot - happens

still... no sound; only scope flash... should be changed; just like no sound for overheads if you're not targeted

[royal totem]

Wut

Whyd they leave

[jovial fox]

Does anyone know if there are like good brainburst builds for getting the penances with?

[lethal swan]

Man, I have so many problems running the Voidblast staff build in regards to maintaining toughness, I feel like whenever my toughness breaks I can't get it back quickly since I don't have Quietude

[graceful arch]

Is there a specific reason you don't just run quietude?

[proper spoke]

I'm so used to being aware of where cover is that it's usually ok. Plus I bring a gun

[lethal swan]

I'm not sure what point to take off for it, just following the guide that's pinned lol

running this one

[graceful arch]

Monstrosity ogryn damage if you had to cut something

Maybe ee

But it's rough without it in havocs

[lethal swan]

how about empyric resolve? or nah

[graceful arch]

It's another one but full charging is rough without it

[strong gulch]

It's was damnation, I', not 30 yet, and I proudly proclaimed that I've never used smaul before.

[lethal swan]

yeah hm

I'll just take off montrosity ogryn for now

[strong gulch]

There is one in the other builds section of the pinned build guide

[strong gulch]

If you don't have trouble with managing peril, then remove ER.

[lethal swan]

ok

like with the flame staff builds I feel like I"m constantly regenerating toughness from crits and stuff, but on the blast staves I always feel like my toughness gets whacked off and then I eat shit and die lmao

[strong gulch]

That build is specifically for those who struggle with peril management. That's why it has ER. Typcally, ER is not ran on inferno shriek even on havocs.

[lethal swan]

ahhhhh ok

i had no idea

thatm akes sense

Moved the point to Quietude!

I don't know if its just me, I just like the ability to quickly top off my toughness lol

[royal totem]

I still dont see the issue

Yesterday i hopped in a havoc 11

Having never used shield maul b4

[ripe obsidian]

Have you looked at the templates section? I tried to explain why each node is picked

[ripe obsidian]

I think I have a brain burst build in the pinned guide under "Other Builds"

[lethal swan]

Yeah I'm reading through it!

[royal totem]

I need ER with flame staff

[lethal swan]

I'm at the point where I kind of understand what's going on, but I haven't played enough to get a feel for what I like haha

just working things out

awesome guide though, appreciate it!

[fiery stratus]

any epic gamers wanna do some orebrick minestorm

[royal totem]

Wut????

I take every peril reduction node and still explode

Game2hard

[strong gulch]

IDK how to use smaul or DB shotgun, but emps said to use em. Feels bad.

[fiery stratus]

on psyker?

[strong gulch]

True on psyker but on arby.

also hi

[fiery stratus]

ah, so arbitrators maul or the normal ones?

[strong gulch]

the regular ones

which taxe mk?

do ppl normally use

[fiery stratus]

they're pretty combo dependent tbh

the 7 is the best for spamming i think

pretty sure the 7 is good for light attack spam, the others benefit a lot from H1-L1 combos

or h2

[strong gulch]

They just didn't want to deal with it.

[tulip kettle]

nemesis defeated. Rot + Heals in 43

[strong gulch]

Congrats

[tulip kettle]

the secret

was pen flames

😮

whoda thunk it

[prime elk]

VII

II just feels like a worse VII

and IV is cool but worse power-wise

[lethal swan]

I love the VII but I had to stop using it on every class because it breaks my fingers lmao

[weary idol]

IV has a cool quirk of having noticably better carapace damage

because the overhead/uppercut hit really hard

[sturdy reef]

who wanna do h40

[royal totem]

Can i bring a lvl 1?

[sturdy reef]

idrc

[tulip kettle]

what map/mods/server?

[sturdy reef]

not really anything bad

[tulip kettle]

yeah its not bad except the bugged ritual near the end with the cultist that spawns in the wall

what server do you play?

[sturdy reef]

NA west/east

[strong gulch]

taxe is fun

hand tired

[ripe obsidian]

Happy to help

[ripe obsidian]

That looks like a fairly easy one

Rot + purple has been my last, like, four or five maps for some reason

[sturdy reef]

yeah it isnt bad

[lethal swan]

I was dumb and totally didn't see you already had a build there that just took quietude lol

[sturdy reef]

mebbe we can do it later, seems most na ppl are out @ripe obsidian

[royal totem]

Im in a hotel tonight

[strong gulch]

I'm about to eat. So no havoc rn.

[pure plinth]

is minimum warp resistance good on the voidstrike

[tulip kettle]

nah dump blast radius

[ripe obsidian]

Added

What melee weapons are usually used with EK?

[icy breach]

i would use a weapon that will be able to kill singles easier OR mixed hordes if you don't bring smite with it

[icy breach]

tell me; where can i access the list you're maintaning?

[ripe obsidian]

Is in the pins

[icy breach]

Found it! Cheers!

[ripe obsidian]

Feel free to offer feedback

Is meant to be a community effort as much as possible

[pure plinth]

jesus christ the fgs with scriers and disrupt destiny is powerful

[icy breach]

if you put it like that then ye i have my own 2 cents to add to the pile
i would have to write a small essay tho; later for sure... tired now...

[austere warren]

Embrace

[strong gulch]

Leveled to 30 on failure.

Now to only fail upward as a leveling challenge.

nevermind

29

end screen and acktual level mismatch

[austere warren]

You're just leveling another psyker or something?

[strong gulch]

arby this time

[ripe obsidian]

@strong gulch

[strong gulch]

Is this an invite to play?

[ripe obsidian]

No, it was reminding you

of the pain you inflicted

(I say jokingly)

[strong gulch]

😭

I don't remember.
(it was a zealot)

[austere warren]

Mm. I'm still deciding on whether or not I make another arbites as a farm mule character.

[wraith sphinx]

Out of curiosity, do any of yall run the rending flurry trauma staff build regularly? Or do you prefer the blazing spirit build or smth else

[strong gulch]

Flurry rending is not my favorite. I only run it if I'm second psyker in havocs.

Even then, I've been favoring nexus with rending shockwave because of EE and perfect timing.

I'm considering trying surge because trauma ends up LMB kinda often in havocs.

[potent echo]

Surge trauma gang 💪

[ripe obsidian]

Trying out Arby shield + maul. Was only H35, but I nearly kept up with an inferno psyker for damage.

[strong gulch]

You kind of inferno damage or me kind of inferno damage?

[ripe obsidian]

It was also purple

I mean, they did 1.4m and I did 1.1m

[strong gulch]

I am level 30 now. I did it.

[ripe obsidian]

Which was still double other teammates

[ripe obsidian]

Tried again in H40. Did quite poorly. Still won, tho

[strong gulch]

Yay for win.

Was it just one of those games or is an adjustment needed?

[ripe obsidian]

Honestly not sure

[strong gulch]

valid

[cosmic sigil]

22 my days of glory are long gone.

[ripe obsidian]

Tweaking the build a bit worked. But I don't feel more effective with the shield than with the maul alone. The stun is nice, though

[strong gulch]

Do you feel safer?

[austere warren]

Anyone know what the weekly contract reset is?

Well when rather?

[tulip kettle]

it was about 9 hours ago

[austere warren]

top of the week then

[tulip kettle]

midnight GMT sunday night

[rigid sky]

welp, there goes the best damn event Darktide's ever seen

[quartz barn]

Angy oggies were fun and nice for the arbi penance where you have to blow up your dog to stagger monsters

[ripe obsidian]

Not really. The shield does little to help with H40 ranged enemies, in my limited experience

[plucky flax]

It helps a lot for me.

But a lot worse horde clear. Single target is kind of nearly the same

[wraith sphinx]

It's always fun watching randoms trying to cope with mutant trains

[quartz barn]

This also made no sense to me

Did the void repair mission 2 days ago, auric mael with rashuns

Pubs destroy everything, but then suck vs the mutants + starvation hordes

Had 2 leave because of it

Like ???

[novel yoke]

is it just me or are dregs absurdly rare compared to scabs

like 3-4 good missions is enough to get the "1000 scab kills" weekly but dregs take like 10 missions??

been noticing this on multiple characters too

[quartz barn]

Because dregs have no normal melee enemy, just ranged

There's groaners instead

Dw tho, youll get the kills passively while going for 1m kills / 1000 mission clears

[novel yoke]

damn fr?

im just gonna start replacing all dreg contracts then

[quartz barn]

Plus missions also randomly pick a faction and enemy type

[zealous wing]

to be fair, they ARE weeklies, not dailies

its why i never swap out the scripture/grimoire one

[quartz barn]

So you couldve just gotten 3 scab missions in a row, and then barely any dreg missions

[zealous wing]

usually enough missions some dumbass grabs a grimoire or scripture

[quartz barn]

Me when i was going for those penances

[zealous wing]

lol

it counts team collection too

[quartz barn]

I got flamed so much for picking up grims lmao

Tbf i was toxic with scriptures too

[zealous wing]

depends on difficulty but yeah grimoirs are a pain

[quartz barn]

Run collector mod

Pick up scripture

Give to teammate

[zealous wing]

lmao

[quartz barn]

With grims i just did 1 at a time

[zealous wing]

at least a scripture CAN be given to someone else or exchanged for a medipack if things get dicey

[quartz barn]

Ye but i would drop those instantly

[zealous wing]

grimoire is basically, if youre the last one alive and you need that medipack NOW, youre fucked

[quartz barn]

Also for penance

[novel yoke]

it really doesnt feel like it

I got 8 scab and 2 dreg missions just yesterday

happened again before yesterday on ogryn

and they day before that on arbitrator

I dont mind literally any other weekly, but the scab/dreg shit is just annoying as hell

[tulip kettle]

i think theyre fine, just play game

the annoying ones are missions with no player deaths and scrip/grim

[novel yoke]

dude if I could replace every single weekly with 16 sciptures/grimoires I would

[tulip kettle]

need team mates to not suck for those

and get 1 per mission?

[novel yoke]

idk how you're getting 1 per mission what

go scripture missions and just push them onto others, average is 2

[marble crater]

You can only carry one, your team might ignore them or carry them until they find an ammo box or medpack

[novel yoke]

and tbh I wouldnt mind playing more missions to collect the extra 64 books

gives more rewards than contracts like "kill 750 dreg with ranged" that gives only 230 tokens

[novel yoke]

with grimoires I can agree its a hassle to get someone else to pick it up or if they die

hell even just last mission we extracted with 2 scriptures

[rigid sky]

Dreg bruisers do exist

they're the ones with unarmoured bodies and flak helmets

scab bruisers are the opposite

[pure plinth]

the warp

man this is so fun and so powerful

[quartz barn]

Oh ye mb

Shows how often i engage regular enemies in melee lmao, literally took me a min or two after the hint to even remember what they look like

[rigid sky]

got a grudge against those karkers because they were making it really hard for me to build a rashad pre-itemisation rework

on my vet

[merry meteor]

How are you supposed to use the Force Sword? Sure, uncanny is nice, but it seems to be a single-target damage flavor of force sword, while it's alt-attack so sluggish, takes so much time to prepare and locks you in place for too long - while damage output is nothing special really. I find killing beefy targets with force greatswords much easier

[tulip kettle]

you never use the special attack

[deft stump]

Just poke things to death with qq light spam or light 1 heavy 2 spam cancel if Deimos.

[merry meteor]

Does uncanny interact with warp attacks?

[tulip kettle]

yes

[buoyant maple]

They do
Dreg bruiser

[rigid sky]

They're for caster builds really

as anti-single

Very safe weapon that adds a lot of damage to bosses, crushers, mutants etc

Don't bother with the special attack so much really, they do great dps with either L(HHHH...) on Deimos or (my preference) HLL loop on Obscurus

Greatsword makes you slower and is more dependent on the melee attack speed node

I love my greatsword but I prefer to take it when I don't have good crowd clearing on my ranged

so inferno and voidblast staves I take the 1H obscurus force sword with, but gun and voidstrike I take the greatsword 6

[wraith sphinx]

I like the 1h force sword especially for its snappy and quick force pushback

[elder gale]

I want to use SG and brain burst with a void blast staff. Does this sound like it’ll work or not

[rigid sky]

I've seen others use that

sounds good tbh

I like bubble, brain rupture and enhanced psionics when I take voidblast

SG obviously boosts the blazing spirit version a lot

sounds like a fun variation on it. Would probably take warp siphon.

[elder gale]

I know venting shriek gives a lot of soul blaze to groups which is cool too but I think SG is fun to play around with

[elder gale]

I was thinking that too

[rigid sky]

I never really liked shriek with voidblast, idk why

I think it's the more meta way to do it

but I find I really need the bubble

[elder gale]

For the node that slows down peril gen

[rigid sky]

Oh hey that might actually be a decent use for it

[elder gale]

I’ve never used bubble, it never looks like fun to me

[rigid sky]

normally you never take that node lol

[elder gale]

lol I’m new to this I don’t know which ones are bad nodes or not

[rigid sky]

On this build it's actually pretty cool, since with EP you can make an anti-ranged bunker

[elder gale]

That makes sense, do you use inferno staff with it

[elder gale]

How is enhanced psionics by the way

[royal totem]

Being able to take a quick breather from ranged is nice

[royal totem]

Worst of the 3 keystones but usable

[rigid sky]

just works with this configuration for me

[wraith sphinx]

It will work fine

[rigid sky]

Tbh I might try it myself

[tulip kettle]

Ep is growing on me in H40

guaranteeing 1 shots on gunners is good

[zinc phoenix]

oscurus is pretty high quality as a melee option

the special is for quickly nuking specific stuff

[elder gale]

Is cleave good for anything if you’re not using a melee weapon

[jovial juniper]

It depends

No real value on electric staff, fire staff, trauma staff

[elder gale]

What about rending

[jovial juniper]

The short answer is that rending is good

[empty pivot]

^always good

[marble crater]

That's why every Psyker build uses 'Penetration of the Soul'

Oh wait...

[buoyant maple]

Depends on what ur ranged weapon is

[buoyant maple]

Depends on what attacks ur using

[radiant frigate]

pretty cool that they revived the OG force sword

[junior lantern]

will say, there is nothing quite like just barely managing to clutch against a daemonhost while riding the edge of perils the whole time.

[junior lantern]

I see you are a creature of taste as well.

[quiet inlet]

the real leveling grind is unlocking auric

[brazen warren]

obscurus FS glow up put a smile on my face for sure

I remember using it when the game launched and it was rough to say the least

[icy breach]

havoc level?

[weary idol]

yeah back when it was considered the best melee weapon in the game after the power sword

truly dark times for the obscurus

[limpid lily]

lol I was playing Scrier's Gaze SMITE w/ Empowered Psionics being a perma stagger-bot in Havoc 40

Smite with Empowered Psionics is actually pretty damn nutty dmg lol, this was Rotten Armors too

[icy breach]

now try it with venting shriek

[limpid lily]

Dont think it gives the same perma-smiting capability Scrier Gaze gives me, but im sure it will give hella soulblaze lol

Scrier Gaze basically lets me smite INFINITELY

[icy breach]

ye as i said long time ago; its not about perma smite stun; its about being able to stun stuff & set things on fire in midrange where smite does not reach

[icy breach]

length & potentially dmg wise is better; safety & utility wise is worse

[junior lantern]

is... is assail any good lategame or am i just coping

[tulip kettle]

this was H40?

its so low damage

[limpid lily]

yeah but 200% dmg on Empowered Psionics kills really damn nicely tho

[icy breach]

coping; its solid but there is a reason ppl only use assail for scriers builds with melee

[limpid lily]

yeah

[icy breach]

oh ye you always keep that

[junior lantern]

i mean fair that's what I use for htat

Force Greatsword my beloved

[limpid lily]

unfortunately we had a...pretty subpar Veteran that kept dying, losing smokes, so yeah...we kinda lost at around 70% of the game

[tulip kettle]

oh its not a full run i see, my bad

i was confused

[limpid lily]

yep lol, we were 3-man almost the entire game xD

[jovial juniper]

It's solid, only problem will be carapace

But that's what your melee is for

[junior lantern]

yeah

Force Greatsword Mk VIII my beloved

[tulip kettle]

MK6 superiority gang

Mk8 for doodooheads

[junior lantern]

blegh

[analog verge]

assail is great

less so into havocs

mk6 is based because big poke

[empty pivot]

assail has been sidelined into horde clear only

[junior lantern]

yeah

[analog verge]

chrsit, forgot i had another fgs

fucking warp slice and murderous tranquility, im discarding this thing before i accidentally bring it

they should buff assail

should do 2000 damage

[haughty star]

Kinetic flayer pretty good for melee builds too for the funnis

[limpid lily]

played Scrier Gaze SMITE Empowered Psionics in H40 again, got fucked by Ritual 😐

hella dmg from smite tho

[brazen warren]

Assail kills horde, gives bursts of peril. Smite weakens horde, stuns, and generates a constant trickle of peril. The lost time in finishing the cleanup of smite damaged horde is the real difference between the two, one is immediate and proactive, the other is reactive and more CC.

so assail can be more snappy

love my smite though

[icy breach]

bad smite build then when horde remains intact

[brazen warren]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[haughty star]

Smite deffo better at raw clearing power if you're built for it

[limpid lily]

Empowered Smite is basically staggery inferno lol

[weary idol]

with like

half the damage

sure

[brazen warren]

EP smite does cook hordes to a perfect crisp, but requires a full build investment. Talking more about base smite vs assail

[weary idol]

inferno also staggers

[limpid lily]

give or take

[limpid lily]

not on crushers tho lol

[brazen warren]

crushers are a real problem now

I run the hipfire revolver just for them on my gunker build now

[haughty star]

Base assail would suck if there were ever such a thing

[limpid lily]

plus inferno SECONDARY attack requires a some buildup to actually stagger

[brazen warren]

melee for everything, revolver for when the game goes nah, 10 bulwarks, 12 crushers, 8 maulers, and 2 hordes, you are in a choke, just die

[haughty star]

That reaches out 70m + and in places you can't even see

[analog verge]

fuck smite, boring ass blitz visually and audio wise

[brazen warren]

run the fuck away and start blastin

[limpid lily]

oh yes lol

tis good range

[analog verge]

zero feedback motherfucking blitz

[jovial juniper]

True they should bring back pink cloud

[haughty star]

All the blitzes are subpar at best for feedback imo

[brazen warren]

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-cowboy-shooting-gun-gif-15317612

[jovial juniper]

Fry every gpu

🗣️

[haughty star]

[analog verge]

yes

if your pc could not survive then you did not deserve to play

[haughty star]

[brazen warren]

apply more unguents and blessed seals, make you prayers extra fervent heretic

[candid temple]

tfw bb is the best blitz for feedback

[haughty star]

My favorite build to date is kinetic flayer gunker

The "i dont wanna feel like a psyker at all" special.

[candid temple]

I was running kf meleeker, but I needed the point so I switched to assail

I don't like assail in that build at all though

or in general

[analog verge]

kinetic flayer fgs is funny

i like assail for triggering malefic momentum and horde clear

[candid temple]

throw shitty shards in general direction of enemy, feels so boring

[analog verge]

feel like more of a psyker when i weave it in between every melee strike

[candid temple]

if I clear horde with assail, how am I going to enjoy slashing trash with my big honking slab of psychicly empowered metal?

[analog verge]

first of all, what trash hordes are you fighting that instantly die to assail, and second of all the extra damage from malefic momentum means you can slash more trash with your slab of psychically empowered metal

[prime elk]

Assail is pretty important on gunker

[candid temple]

good thing I'm talking about meleeker

[prime elk]

And by gunker I’m also talking about meleeker

They’re the same thing

[candid temple]

idk, i 2 shot crushers, so good enough for me

[prime elk]

Not what assail is for but ok

[analog verge]

gunker is meleeker yes

more damage, more peril, more of everything that helps a meleeker

[icy breach]

as in build structure they don't change much

[analog verge]

no not really, you dont really need to take any extra talents because everything that is good for meleeker is also pretty good for gunker

[icy breach]

Warp expenditure
By crack of bone

[analog verge]

restores toughness = lets you take more hits so you can use gun

boom, gun talent

also, warp expenditure, the talent that now has literally nothing to do with expending the warp, at all

[icy breach]

on melee

[icy breach]

wordwise

[analog verge]

yes, exactly

if you have more toughness from melee then you can swap safely to gun

much sooner

[verbal thistle]

Get toughness from melee so you swap to melee to kill again

The cycle repeats

[haughty star]

Wait psyker got reworked wthhh

[candid temple]

Yes? That's the whole thing with KF, you need to find a point somewhere for it.

is fine tho

[analog verge]

im talking about assail gunker

which is why we were talking about gunker in the first place

because assail is good for it

[candid temple]

when psyker get rework, will make assail upgrades not ass and actually worth taking

Trust!

[haughty star]

Wait did they really rework psyker and just make it MORE OP

[candid temple]

it wasn't a 'rework'

[haughty star]

Lmfaooo

[candid temple]

they just cut out trash from talent trees

for psyker, vet, zealot

very few nodes got actual changes

[weary idol]

yeah cut out trash then give Psyker universal 25% damage reduction at all times 💀

[haughty star]

Ummm

At least half the nodes are revamped that im seeing

[analog verge]

they moved stuff around a lot

[candid temple]

More power.

vet has 50% tdr effectively always

if you don't play bad

[weary idol]

okay you realize that Just A Dream is just damage reduction period

Which is better

You know that right?

And it has effectively zero caveats to it

[haughty star]

Kinetic flayer warp expenditure mind in motion psy aura the list goes on basically everything got revamped lmao

[weary idol]

mind in motion got changed?

[haughty star]

Yee I was eyeballing that one

[haughty star]

Reload added

It was just for quell before

[weary idol]

oh

didn't even notice

[haughty star]

Yee still prolly useless but less so tbh

[weary idol]

but yeah Just A Dream

puts Psyker at 3 for the 3 of the best damage reduction talents in the game

[junior lantern]

yeah

[weary idol]

Empathic Evasion, Immaterial Focus, and Just A Dream

[junior lantern]

love me just a dream

[weary idol]

Also Warp Ghost

[junior lantern]

gonna grab that for my melee build

[haughty star]

They literally nerfed nothing while everyone was calling for psykwr nerfs but psyker mains lmaoo

[weary idol]

inferno should have been nerfed fucking ages ago

[junior lantern]

yeah

[weary idol]

They should have learned from Vermintide 2 Sienna and Ironbreaker that flamethrowers should not ever be part of the meta

[junior lantern]

well, they'll probably change it soonish

[candid temple]

I think inferno nerf would be enough to make most of my annoyance with psyker dominance go away

ek and blast are also strong, but not silly stupid strong

[junior lantern]

yeah

[weary idol]

voidblast is comparable to inferno it's just not nearly as braindead

[icy breach]

i still think trauma > purgatus due to stagger

[weary idol]

because it puts a lot of its power into having REAL stagger

and you can fuck over your teammates if you're bad with it

like yeah the obvious of it destroying every barrel/poxburster whether you like it or not

but also subtle things like accidentally staggering enemies in a way that makes it harder for melee classes to kill them

staggering things away from your melee teammates is bad, and also something you need to constantly keep in mind

[icy breach]

thats on players not learning about stagger interactions but then again; NOBODY is willing to teach - everytime i explain this stuff to ppl they had no clue thats a thing and thats alarming

[candid temple]

the only downside of hammerblow asm arbi, but I find it too much fun to play that build

https://tenor.com/view/sauron-owned-lotr-cleave-mace-gif-5201948

forceful hammerblow asm is actually what I was hoping thunderhammer to be like

[weary idol]

also because voidblast has like

a skill floor

since aiming it is really weird and unintuitive

thing is a floor explosion but to aim it you gotta pretend it arcs like a grenade launcher

[icy breach]

its not a downside by any standard; stagger is stagger - it makes game easier & makes you win

[icy breach]

don't forget some terrain still breaks the aiming of the explosion and the explosion itself

[candid temple]

if I didn't take hammerblow, I'd kill faster, but it would be slightly riskier diving into carapace packs

so it's a tradeoff

[icy breach]

potentially; still not significant imo; there is a reason why i put Trauma > Purgatus

[icy breach]

Your TTK does not matter if you nulify the potential to be hit in the first place

thats why Hammerblow should always be taken (unless we talk about shovel or devils claw or TH; not sure on that one; might be good to take due to ragers)

[elder gale]

Would you mind explaining it to me

[long saddle]

I love trying to get as much range out of it as possible by snap looking up in to the roof right before firing off a big charge

because you can't look that high up all the time, you wouldn't be able to see enemies in front of you

[icy breach]

Larger enemies; bulwarks, crushers, reapers & bosses after being staggered and recovering from it get increased stagger resistance that prevets from stunlocking them; if you use Traumas staff on a crusher and it falls on the ground it gets virtual immunity to next blasts after it gets up from the ground for 3 seconds; in that time he can hit you up to 2 times or wind up an overhead which can 1 shot you
so you either chain stagger them when they are staggered till last tier of the stagger which is pushed on the ground or you stagger them then pay attention to the hidden timer
takes some time to learn but when you do your games will be in many situations better; all tied to the observation of enemy behavior
Maulers & Ragers are more forgiving but still possess that mechanic to a minor extend (especially maulers due to overhead attacks)

[tulip kettle]

TO BE HONEST

i will once again repeat that inferno does not need nerfs

its only by absolutely meta gaming and running crazy optimised self damage builds that do nothing for your team that lets you put out the numbers we post here

[marble crater]

Because it needs buffs, right?

[tulip kettle]

no, its just, fine

[analog verge]

psyker doesnt exactly do much for its team in general (aside from auras which everyone gets)

so speccing into damage makes sense

[tulip kettle]

run penetrating flames into rot armour and dont do uncanny abuse

[marble crater]

EK and Illisi buffs then?

[tulip kettle]

and watch as your team actually competes with you for dmg

[weary crane]

I'm convinced Devs were on crack when they did blue stims

[tulip kettle]

blue stimms are anti psyker

i realised this

[weary crane]

Anti everything

[tulip kettle]

every other class has a way of dealing with them

[weary crane]

They completely ignore shock mines

[tulip kettle]

psyker has nothing

they dont ignore dog

or BTL

[analog verge]

stagger and stun? everyone fucking does that

it came free with your fucking weapons and talent tree

[icy breach]

and even then; trauma does it better tbh
still its what needs to be taken

[tulip kettle]

oggy can taunt or take 250% stagger node and feel no pain

vets have krak

[weary idol]

hm 2nd best defensive ability in the game imo

[tulip kettle]

zealot can chorus or fotf and delete them

blue stimms are just "fuck the psyker in particular"

[analog verge]

one ability out of 3

[icy breach]

anti everyone unless they have a stagger ability

[analog verge]

taking shriek is not selfish

[weary idol]

venting shriek outright kills all trash that you look at

[tulip kettle]

i just covered how

[weary idol]

which is pretty huge for dealing with mixed hordes

[tulip kettle]

every class has access to at least 1 tool to negate blue stimms

except psyker

psyker has nothing vs them

[weary idol]

gun psykers have already probably killed the entire mixed horde by the time you look at them

trauma psyker completely invalidates bulwarks for the entire team

[weary crane]

Not when the unit is invincible

[weary idol]

since it's so easy for them to stagger them

[elder gale]

So the voids staff secondary attack can knock them down instead of kill fast like inferno but you’ll use your melee to finish them instead

[icy breach]

they invalidate everything exept bosses tbh

[tulip kettle]

only gas does that

[weary crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9U0nDp-myyE

[tulip kettle]

yeah its in gas

[weary crane]

Having units you can't kill it's just a huge oversight

[tulip kettle]

i agree

[verbal thistle]

Minor bit of trolling

[tulip kettle]

ive complained here numerous times

its the worst game design ive ever seen

[icy breach]

Inferno killing them faster? Thats a joke right? Ofc if you include everything else like uncanny then sure but on its own; never

[tulip kettle]

and now i refuse to play stims + gas, and try to avoid stims as a whole unless playng arb

[verbal thistle]

Thank God rotten armor gas is coded like twins fight gas

And doesn't give them buffs bar poxwalkers

[tulip kettle]

its also much weaker right?

[weary crane]

There's a thread on it

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-stim-modifier-can-we-at-least-fix-the-immortality-if-the-blue-stim-won-t-be-fixed/114301/10

[icy breach]

copletelly forgot about twins fight gas; that makes sense

[tulip kettle]

like ive noticed the gas from rot doesnt hurt nearly as much as normal gas

[verbal thistle]

The gas damage is the same iirc, it's just the the gas buffs doesn't affect anything but poxwalkers

I could be wrong about the damage

[tulip kettle]

seems like i can stand in rot gas with no issues

[verbal thistle]

Probably wacky hitbox

[tulip kettle]

but pox gas is 4 ticks to deplete whole toughness bar

[icy breach]

it ticks faster = more dmg but its radius is soo small you never get severly damaged by it

[icy breach]

very small hitbox tbh

[tulip kettle]

idk it always feels like i can literally just ignore the gas from rot

it does seem to have magic summoning powers though

ive started collecting clips of enemies materialising from thin air

[icy breach]

yeah its more the particle effect that offers more problem due to vision obscuring if there are many

also iirc that gas is coded as a debuff that prevents/reduces toughness regain

can you confirm that @verbal thistle ?

[weary idol]

tox bombers are generationally shit enemies

[verbal thistle]

Unsure

@buoyant maple does tox gas same the same code as fire in which you get no toughness or reduced toughess regen

For example in twins fight map, during gas phase I stand in the gas with steady grip ogryn but I don't regen

Is this unique to twins gas?

[icy breach]

i meant; does the tox cloud after killing rotten enemies have same properties as the twins gas

[verbal thistle]

In my experience that I can remember, dreg bomber gas doesn't reduce or negate toughness but twins gas does

Ie the gas from rotten armor too

[icy breach]

ye thats my question

[verbal thistle]

Idk if it's 1 to 1 to the fire debuff

Because I get 50% toughness from fury in twins fight while in gas

When I get on my PC I can check a few guides

[weary crane]

Omg

I'm playing arby and got a smiter in h40

He was smiting when everything was stopped by my shock mines

And did no damage

[tulip kettle]

in other news, water is wet

[verbal thistle]

Just need to bring back red

Scare away the smite psykers again

They are too common

[tulip kettle]

i would take red over stims every day of the week

[weary crane]

Yeah

[verbal thistle]

Red is probably one of the best designed modifiers

[weary crane]

Rituals (non bugged ones) and red are good modifiers

[verbal thistle]

It punishes stagger spam

Infinite cleave too

[weary crane]

My most hated ones are pus hardened and stims

Healing and tox has are just annoying

[buoyant maple]

Idk check kuli guide

[verbal thistle]

Doing it soon

[brazen warren]

hmm

I wonder how much damage KF does over a round vs smite and assail

BB is decent but not crazy without EP

[tulip kettle]

in H40 KF does about 200k usually

[brazen warren]

KF just gives you bursts for free

[verbal thistle]

Base damage is 1250? And every 12 sec it's 100% gurenteed

Easy math

[brazen warren]

over a 30 minute game about 187k total damage

that is assuming every single proc happens every 12 seconds

but it only activates on elites and specials, which is not a bad thing

[verbal thistle]

Which is easy to do with the base build of PC and wildfire

[weary idol]

dreg bombers reduce toughness replenishment by 30% iirc

[verbal thistle]

@icy breach

full list of what gas does

both kinds

actually

3 kinds

[weary idol]

yeah right there

very kind of the developers to make the tox bomber grenades function like a vet smoke grenade though

didn't know that

[verbal thistle]

yeah

easy to notice with snipers

they just kinda forgor

[icy breach]

Appreciated bruhdda
So rotten armour gas is the same as twins gas then; i was correct that it prevents regeneration like from steady grip

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian

[lone ravine]

gotta rename them to twelve now

[ripe obsidian]

What the fuck is this

Slander

Blasphemy

I demand satisfaction

[strong gulch]

Gotta get the defamation lawsuit ready.

[modest perch]

challenge him to a duel to preserve your honor

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-in-philadelphia-charlie-day-gif-11901301701972419315

[eager knoll]

The doctor is in

[tulip kettle]

shock mines and noncio smh

[weary crane]

Bro

I took out ritual

[tulip kettle]

i have 25 talents points

maybe i should spend the other 5

[weary crane]

Might be a good idea

[acoustic jacinth]

Will this funny move get patched?

(i hope not )

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/7kb3R5

pretty sure i overkill this crusher by a good 1-2k

... without critting

[verbal thistle]

why do you think QC was fixed (mostly)

[acoustic jacinth]

because it was too fair and balanced

darktide can't have that

always nerfing poor psyker