#psyker-class

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tulip kettle
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the shooters and gunners were way less ruthless

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just not shooting me a lot of the time

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it felt nice

teal ivy
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This happens to me sometimes. When it does I just turn my computer off and go for a walk/do other shit. By the time I’m done, usually I find something to keep busy with gaming wise.

Do you like mostly FPS? Or RPGs as well?

hearty wolf
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I play like most genres of games.

teal ivy
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Im the same! If you haven’t tried it yet, maybe total war warhammer, or baldurs gate 3? Rogue trader is great as well if you want more 40k

royal totem
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Totalwar warhammer bad. Depending on faction etc etc

zinc phoenix
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So if you want it to be meleeker is now basically invincible

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It’s pretty wild, it feels like an arbeetus

zinc phoenix
# hearty wolf BG3 I more or less finished

I’m on literally the final boss fight of an honor mode run. Like halfway thru the final zone before I go kill the bugger. Just need to load in and do the deed but haven’t 😂

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Wanna try some RTS games for something completely different? It’s my main genre, I know many 😂

teal ivy
teal ivy
zinc phoenix
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No I mean stacking TDR + quietude + bcob + tough on kill traits. It’s enormous even on havoc

teal ivy
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You know better than I. I love psyker but I main zealot. Starting to lean into psyker more but I don’t know much about the builds/talent tree

strong gulch
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We got two DR reduction talents in the recent tree rework too.

serene gazelle
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does asail or inferno staff so more damage?

prime elk
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not really comparable...

serene gazelle
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which is better at horde clear

graceful arch
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I guess it depends where you launch the nuke.

prime elk
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but once again, not comparable

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it's like asking what's the better utencil, the fork or the spoon

serene gazelle
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like when i use scriers and get warp unbound should i use asail or use inferno staff?

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to make use of the unlimited peril

prime elk
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assail

graceful arch
prime elk
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and yeah inferno doesn't really have great synergies with sg

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i mean yes bonus crit but that's about it and not really worth taking inferno for

graceful arch
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Inferno is a thing you base your entire build around assail is something you plop in when you struggle with horde clear and none of the other blitzes are really useful for you.

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Assail compliments a build while inferno is the build you're going for if you're running it.

prime elk
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tbf

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you can absolutely base an entire build around assail uwugryn

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and it'll be very strong

zinc phoenix
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too much carapace now imo

graceful arch
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You can it's just not nearly as strong as inferno or some of the other stuff you can do

serene gazelle
prime elk
prime elk
graceful arch
graceful arch
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You still will have to occasionally swap to melee or gun when there's not enough squishy elites but it is doable.

prime elk
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notice how i don't really run out

serene gazelle
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so thats how to use it just kinda throw it into a group and just aim vaguely at the dudes?

zinc phoenix
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just grind the horde up with melee and then fire off a wave clear from the fgs

graceful arch
zinc phoenix
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bb with kf hurts the carapace stuff that matters

prime elk
serene gazelle
prime elk
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if i'm running an assail build, assail is my weapon

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and melee is just a backup

sinful violet
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Mmmm

graceful arch
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Also hey

sinful violet
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I knew you’d be in here

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Haha

graceful arch
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I just can't fall asleep

sinful violet
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Same bro

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At least my gf is still awake lol

prime elk
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you kids need to get off social media smh

sinful violet
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Kids???? I’m old

graceful arch
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I've worked night shifts for the past 2-3 weeks if I could change my sleeping patterns on the drop of a dime I would

sinful violet
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Yeah Ive just got insomnia

serene gazelle
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if i use EP should i get the bottom node so i can have 3 charges of it?

prime elk
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yes

graceful arch
sinful violet
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Yup

serene gazelle
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but that only gives me like 13 throws

prime elk
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get better at killing elites

graceful arch
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But you get more if you kill elites

sinful violet
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Yeah lol

serene gazelle
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oh so if you kill elites with the asail you get more to throw

prime elk
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a rager or shotgunner pack is just free damage/shards

sinful violet
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EP

graceful arch
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You need this

sinful violet
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Yup

serene gazelle
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i have that one yeah

prime elk
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now go dunk on your nerest shotgunner pack

graceful arch
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Or rager pack or gunner squad

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Etc

sinful violet
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Yeah so when you kill an elite you get more asail

verbal thistle
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yes and no

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when you have stack the next assail you throw wont decrease your total

sinful violet
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Yeah but that’s still more than you have

graceful arch
sinful violet
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Mhm

graceful arch
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Also make sure to run warp splitting and ethereal shards for maximum fun.

strong gulch
sinful violet
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I still think EP is kinda bad but hey it’s a thing

prime elk
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i just like it only for assail

graceful arch
prime elk
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hearing it clink through a heretic horde

sinful violet
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Just sad that assails damage is so bad for the slow recovery

prime elk
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assail does great damage

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against everything besides carapace and bosses

sinful violet
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Hahaha

graceful arch
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Just not the beast it used to be, atleast not with havoc armor density and bodymass.

sinful violet
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So 90% of the enemies

prime elk
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you're fighting 90% crushers/maulers and bosses?

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on havoc 41 or something?

prime elk
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i wouldn't run an EP assail build on havoc lol

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i mean it'd prob work

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because psyker is just that strong

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but not ideal

graceful arch
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It's fun to mess around in aurics

sinful violet
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Yeah in aurics sure

graceful arch
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That's assails niche outside of just dumping it every SG linger for some easy dps boost.

serene gazelle
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so i should throw asail at elites but not carapace elites

graceful arch
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Yes

sinful violet
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Yup

graceful arch
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Mauler and plasma gunners heads aren't gonna dent unless you somehow still have uncanny stacks

sinful violet
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Yeah true but you need setup for that

serene gazelle
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but asail is still pretty good for hordes too?

graceful arch
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Yes

sinful violet
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Yeah

graceful arch
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Atleast until high havocs

serene gazelle
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What do i do when i get warp unbound but the hode is already right on top of me

prime elk
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dodge

dull scroll
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it's pretty good even in h40, only useless when you are in purple map

prime elk
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and magdump

graceful arch
serene gazelle
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idk its like the asails dont go fro the right dudes

dull scroll
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you need melee for those

graceful arch
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You need to have your curser placed above their heads but still in their general direction.

prime elk
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you can control assail shards

graceful arch
sinful violet
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Yup

serene gazelle
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well yeah but the dudes are still there even when im aiming at them

graceful arch
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You'll get the hang of it

dull scroll
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everything else it murders

graceful arch
sinful violet
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Plasma gunner

graceful arch
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Like yeah it can do work but building exclusively for it in havoc is bad idea.

sinful violet
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Yeah flame staff is a better option

eager knoll
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rolling steel is an awesome mission for players who enjoy playing the game at their own pace and looting every corner of the map

dull scroll
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it's not going to beat inferno and/or venting shriek, but gaze assail do alright in h40

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done it myself and seen others do it

graceful arch
sinful violet
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That’s the joke :3

graceful arch
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There is no joke blorgus is just speaking facts

sinful violet
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Hahaha

graceful arch
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I kind of want to experiment with niche off meta picks for psyker but nothing is really all that interesting outside of what I've already tried.

sinful violet
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Yeah that’s what I’m doing on arby

brittle berry
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just realized i cant literally make Flambae from dispatch as a psyker

ripe obsidian
eager knoll
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weird dog push effect knocked me off the train as i tried to save dangling teammate

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joever

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idk how i dind't hear it

clever summit
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Does anyone know what a good crowd control weapon for zealot is

strong gulch
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Crusher?

Also, did you mean to ask in psyker chat?

ripe obsidian
clever summit
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OOPS

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But thanks anyway

royal totem
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i ask all my zealot questions here

serene gazelle
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is lmb on inferno staff useful for anything or is the charged up just better?

royal totem
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it's useful for things

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you can knock away bursters with it

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or stagger things

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lets you quickly create some room

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if you're using BB KF lets you trigger KF also.... etc

teal ivy
# clever summit Oh this is Psyker chat? My bad I kinda misplaced the chat positions

Sometimes getting an answer in zealot chat feels like pulling teeth. We all are easily distracted.

To answer that question, it depends. For ranged weapons, I don’t think you’ll find better than the flamer. It handles everything; mixed hordes, armoured or unarmoured rager patrols, gunner patrols, bulwarks, and yes, even crushers if you take penetrating flames and carapace. It’ll take you a whole clip to burn them all, but it will kill crushers.

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For melee weapons, I’d say a great all rounder is the eviscerator. Either mark is fine, with mark 15 being easier to use, but mark 3 being more dynamic imo.

royal totem
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eviscerator is only good if you don't mind listening to the sound of saws all day -_-

teal ivy
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Relic blade is another great pick, but personally, I like Eviscerator because it handles bosses/crushers with ease.

teal ivy
royal totem
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i just don't like saw ASMR

hearty wolf
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WOT

teal ivy
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It does interfere with other audio in the game but I love it. So 40k. But each to his or her own!

royal totem
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i just use thammer. don't flame me

ripe obsidian
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Rot + purple refinery delta completed

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Did not hit 5m this game, sadly

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Vet killed purple crushers too quickly

verbal thistle
strong gulch
ripe obsidian
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Refinery is fine

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Now I have purple + rot power matrix

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game pls

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I am glad to have won the game, but it seems like the path to 5m damage is having a team solely built to enable you

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And not kill purple crushers before you can damage farm

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I got like 800k damage in 2 minutes when the vet was down

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But otherwise

teal ivy
# royal totem ~~i just use thammer. don't flame me~~

Nothing wrong with that. I run thammer and it can handle everything.

Just don’t get stuck in the habit of spamming all heavies or all lights. You really gotta mix it up depending on horde density snd what’s in the horde. But it’s a great weapon

royal totem
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But

serene gazelle
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im using all the toughness nodes but i still die so fast when im using staff

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i regen nothing

royal totem
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Im a shroudfield zealot

serene gazelle
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i should be getting toughness from warp kills and from generating peril right? or if im in warp unbound do i not generate peril?

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Yeah idk maybe psyker aint for me he's too squishy

royal totem
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Youve been at psyker only how many days? Hate to tell you most classes take practice

serene gazelle
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not zealot

plucky flax
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You mean arby.

ripe obsidian
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I just got poxburster'd, I think by the voidblast psyker, and a Crusher overheaded me as I was being launched

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That was painful

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@plucky flax I beat that mission first try today

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Did not get 5m. Vet killed the purple crushers before I could damage farm

plucky flax
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I will try to beat your damage later on silo cluster. A mate has purple rot.

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But different map and stuff.

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I'll ask them to not kill stuff. Kapp

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I did 5 mil but it was just long and horrible.

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I think 52 mins long.

ripe obsidian
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I hit like 4.25m. Highest I have was the first we did, with the shredder vet

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4.7ish

plucky flax
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Yeah 5.2mil on clandestium nooooo

ripe obsidian
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in 36 minutes

summer prairie
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we could try trio on it some time today

plucky flax
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Okay.

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It's between purple rot or purple ritual.

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I mean rot ritual.

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Imo the former is easier.

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Even if it's a slog.

summer prairie
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Depends I guess

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you can shoot the cultists

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instead of rushing

plucky flax
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It's inside the silo with the 3 bunker doors.

summer prairie
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ah that one

plucky flax
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When there could be back to back rituals aggro

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And always a lot of stuff spawn in the 2nd chamber.

summer prairie
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maybe you just kill her then

eager knoll
obtuse dome
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Meh

plucky flax
summer prairie
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Going shopping soon, after that any time is fine

proper spoke
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Zero damage... Is it made of plastic?

long saddle
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think of 0% as 100%

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and 80% as 180%

zealous wing
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cuz it 100% isnt the psyker class' fault

eager knoll
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Brainular

graceful arch
fading escarp
analog verge
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ive always felt squishier with vet than psyker

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and even zealot sometimes

graceful arch
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Also psyker is not a tank but is easily the character who's the easiest to avoid taking damage in the first place.

fading escarp
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After i tried and maxed other classes
Yeah psyker goes down a lot faster

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But wiping hordes? yeah
Let me throw crystals or nuke them all

analog verge
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im near unkillable on my scriers zealot and ill get obliterated trying to do the same things on vet

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but im not that good at vet

fading escarp
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Zealot is damn powerhouse

analog verge
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...psyker

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i meant scriers psyker

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scriers zealot is a hilarious idea, but not real

graceful arch
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Zealot is very fun and has good clutch potential but I feel they lack some things the other classes have.

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The amount of anti synergy zealot has with the rest of your team feels really bad sometimes.

analog verge
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zealot ranged is eeaah, and no grenade regen

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zealot is already strong though

graceful arch
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Like cc fucks over half your toughness engine and fucks with your damage potential.

fading escarp
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Zealot needs nades only to pick someone up

graceful arch
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Like I lose my mind if I have to play with a Perma taunt ogryn cause they will just cannibalize half my damage potential.

graceful arch
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It's a bit sad on the breakpoint front though

analog verge
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trying it out against plasma gunner for the first time was deeply sad

graceful arch
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I do the zarona surgical prestack with hand Cannon rending

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It's still not great at times.

plucky flax
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Mfw team played too well in purple rot so I couldn't do super high damage. SadgeCry

graceful arch
keen trail
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can psykers deal bleed dmg?

graceful arch
keen trail
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i had a psyker deal 1 bleed dmg and idk where it came from lol

obtuse dome
graceful arch
plucky flax
flat nexus
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Not mine, but i found ot giga funny, director couldnt 1 shot so the game did a combo on him KEKW_ogryn

keen trail
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forgot what its called

zealous wing
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do you know what their melee was?

graceful arch
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No their melee.

zealous wing
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also 1 singlular bleed dmg is very odd

keen trail
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oh lemme check

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combat blade

graceful arch
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That's your answer

strong gulch
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can T1 lacerate do 1 bleed?

zealous wing
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1 stack of bleed so

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maybe

strong gulch
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it would tick tho

zealous wing
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unless it was killed right away

strong gulch
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game was confused
like me
solved it

zealous wing
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KF maybe

graceful arch
strong gulch
keen trail
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thats probably why

zealous wing
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that would mean they only stabbed one thing

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whats their melee dmg

keen trail
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roughly 50k

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game crashed at the end of the mission so i couldnt save the scoreboard

graceful arch
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It's most likely combat blade lacerate or flesh tearer that did the bleed.

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Either the 1 bleed damage is a visual error on scoreboard or some other shenanings miss attributed a bleed proc of 1 to psyker

rigid sky
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Did somebody disconnect at some point and the psyker inherited a DoT they already put up? idk

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or is another effect coded as a bleed

summer prairie
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@plucky flax I'll be around now

plucky flax
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Okay maybe in 30 mins

plucky flax
summer prairie
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yes

summer prairie
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he did 370k with just PC

plucky flax
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He's the only pc source so

summer prairie
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I guess you should take it if no other sb, he was using it for his supeority stacks too

quartz barn
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alright wtf

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apparently picking up a capsule as you get hit despawns it and crashes the lobby

heavy hamlet
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Just curious, I wonder is the place of regular, one-handed force sword on melee/gunker? or FGS completely outclass it?

dusk wren
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for melee psyker i think it's very outclassed

hearty wolf
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me when I don't know what I am talking about

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(fgs is the way, he's not wrong but I can't legally say this cos dclaw supremacy)

dusk wren
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dclaw?

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is that a duelling sword mark i don't know about

hearty wolf
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my boy didn't deserve this 😭

acoustic jacinth
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Deimos force sword is still pretty neat. But i wouldn't take it in a de facto meleeker build over mk6 fgs either tbh

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Yeah dclaw got rekt for no reason

dusk wren
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Deimos is very cool, i like it when i don't use a melee build

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it's just comfy you know

acoustic jacinth
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On my boring meta inferno build deimos is the trusty melee i always use

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Uncanny is piss easy to proc too

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Sb actuallly melts carapace hordes because of it

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Whilst deimos keeps staggering everything

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It's p busted

hearty wolf
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It would probs be one of the best melee weapons in the game hands down

acoustic jacinth
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Fair

hearty wolf
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and probs a better special cos there's hardly a use case for it imo

acoustic jacinth
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I don't feel it due to the application i have for it. It's supposed to be my single target stick

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But yeah

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Overall, for sure

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It's so stupid how easy the light thrust is to access

acoustic jacinth
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Legit i only use that to apply 4 uncanny stacks

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Also

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Captain shields

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Not bad

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I am yet to use Illisi

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Obscurus i know well already so i guess i'll run a little illisi just for the fun of it

hearty wolf
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I finally found a game I wanted to play

plucky flax
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Is it poe2?

hearty wolf
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Nah but I'd consider it

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the problem I have is that ARPGs are all on these seasonal cycles

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so I'm currently waiting for December so I can play Last Epoch

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Then maybe I will try PoE. I just don't want to be shoe horned into something meta

plucky flax
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I think the color picker mode is making me stutter on laptop

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Or maybe this lap is already dying after 2 years of abuse

tulip kettle
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colour picker mode?

plucky flax
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mod*

marble crater
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The question remains

plucky flax
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It's a meme mod.

marble crater
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I would always pick red for me loregryn

royal totem
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Chaos abuses laptops?

plucky flax
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This laptop runs way too hot.

patent mango
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at least its portable tho

royal totem
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Ah 🙁 i feel like all laptops run too hot

weary idol
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yeah almost like they can only fit tiny fans while still being small

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Should all be thick as fuck briefcase laptops like the miltary ones

cursive ice
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shield plus lighting is a noob trap? can lighitng work with scryer gaze?

jovial juniper
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Bubble Smite is very safe but also limiting your damage potential

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Scriers Smite is for funny infinite smite

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Shriek smite is for funny fire smite

wraith sphinx
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thanks agent

cursive ice
plucky flax
wraith sphinx
plucky flax
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I have mine a lilac purple. Then teammates are teal, yellow, and green

wraith sphinx
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good shit

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I was thinking the same, just got to make sure they're neon bright so they're easier to pick out

plucky flax
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Yessir

fiery stratus
tulip kettle
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please dont do it

jovial juniper
prime elk
jovial juniper
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Because smite itself can't crit

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There's probably a better variation around

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But I'm too busy to check

prime elk
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how does one use smite healthily KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
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In heavy moderation

prime elk
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literally impossible to do

jovial juniper
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Not smyker

prime elk
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every psyker i've seen is either a normal psyker, or a smyker, there's nothing in between

summer prairie
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if you go EP you are a smyker, why would you even take EP otherwise

marble crater
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Whenever I used smite I used it to cover a revive, an objective or those 5 crushers we really weren't prepared for at all

summer prairie
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just take DD for your other stuff instead

rigid sky
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better single target dps, but worse impact. Imo better since caster psyker typically doesn't contribute much monster damage

dusk wren
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lemme check if i was using the deimos

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i mix up the marks

rigid sky
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Most people use Deimos, because Obscurus was shite for a long time

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but Obscurus got buffed in a patch at some point

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HLL combo - overhead, uppercut, poke

dusk wren
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yes i use the deimos

rigid sky
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Deimos does the LH into H spam combo

prime elk
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deimos and obscurus are both good

rigid sky
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If you like Deimos try Obscurus too at some point, uses all the same blessings and perks and same target priority, just a different combo

prime elk
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illisi... exists

rigid sky
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I used to love my Illisi

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but feels very difficult to justify after FGS exists

marble crater
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Mobility

rigid sky
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but that clunky reliance on special activation

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same reason why I stopped using power sword

tulip kettle
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ilisi is for when you need the crowd clear of FGS but also access to uncanny

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which is not many builds but its a niche use case

marble crater
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I still use illisi because I like moving

eager knoll
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before greatsword existed i just pretended that's what illisi was

eager knoll
summer prairie
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context

eager knoll
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kinetic resonance should grant more charge speed i think

icy breach
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Does not need a change nor a buff

eager knoll
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i do not use it

icy breach
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Do try it

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And you’ll see thumbsup_ogryn

wraith sphinx
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it's not rocket science

icy breach
prime elk
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I’ve literally never seen anyone use smite that way in actual matches

fierce crest
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i use smite on a ek build and use it when the horde gets a bit spicy until my team stabilizes

prime elk
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It’s always infinite smykers

fierce crest
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in aurics its usually only like 1-2 times a match

wraith sphinx
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smite is just

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boring

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and I've been enjoying buffed KR too much to really consider fiddling with smite further

wraith sphinx
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Worst fucking message I've ever seen in psyker chat ever

rigid sky
tulip kettle
rigid sky
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I guess if you're trying to do venting shriek on crushers with an ek staff or something idk

tulip kettle
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yeah exactly

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some weird niche build

eager knoll
icy breach
eager knoll
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melee soyker

fierce crest
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is there some secret mechanics to souldrinker? it just does not always proc the ways it says it should

wraith sphinx
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Are you the only source of soulfire in a match you tested this in?

fierce crest
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yeah just tested it with bots in a sedition match

wraith sphinx
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Weird

fierce crest
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i can throw a couple inferno m1s into a shooter pack

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and then kill them with melee

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sometimes it activates sometimes not

wraith sphinx
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uh does souldrinker still not refresh when it meets the conditions to re-proc before it expires?

summer prairie
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I don't think anyone quite knows, but on the server it doesn't always proc when non-sb does the killing blow. There's probably some timeframe

fierce crest
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it wasnt up at all

summer prairie
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but the uptime is still quite high so not that big of a deal

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In Fire Reborn may work similarly but it's even harder to test due to the procs not being guaranteed

fierce crest
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it was inactive, i puffed the shooter pack, started meleeing and it didnt activate until a few kills in

wraith sphinx
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Worth a bug report I'd say

summer prairie
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It's never going to get changed

fierce crest
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im trying to decide if its worth it with only PC for fire

summer prairie
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Would require Uptime testing but I'd guess no unless your build is very crit reliant

fierce crest
#

it is :3

#

ek m1 setup

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currently routing through channeled force since i still tend to use the m2 on bulkwarks

#

so the extra 10% damage is nice

#

hard to quanitfy 10% damage on m2 vs. 5% crit chance randomly

summer prairie
#

The uptime was 10% when I had Souldrinker and there was another Psyker on the team with PC as their only SB source. Surely would have been much higher if I had PC, but not that high

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I'd get it if there's an actual SB psyker on the team

fierce crest
#

the non-meme version of this build that isnt going full electricity and so can grab creeping flames probly grabs it then

elder gale
#

Is there some sort of way to view what all these stats are, like cleave, rend, brittle, finesse, etc.

summer prairie
#

No

fierce crest
#

weapon stats can be hovered in the inspect screen

elder gale
fierce crest
#

stuff like brittleness just gotta ask smilew

summer prairie
#

You've to consult various guides

wraith sphinx
#

the sacred tomes

fierce crest
#

⚡ ⚡ ⚡

wraith sphinx
#

hamter 🙁

eager knoll
#

loaded into an angry lost match

quick breach
#

deos anyone know how to set up the light spam attack with skitarius mod for the blaze force sword ?

#

and if its not a mod, how i learn such power ?

silver mantle
#

are autogun blessings/perks the same as on vet?

radiant frigate
austere warren
silver mantle
#

as in the best blessings

austere warren
#

Yup

radiant frigate
#

oh yeah definitely

silver mantle
#

havent played psyker since before the class rework

austere warren
#

Same works across the board. If it's the vraks7 you're golden. One size fits kind of thing.

#

Unyielding and crit chance for perks may be nice if you're building your psyker in a way that allows them to get value out of taking a gun.

#

Maniac/unyielding works too. If not flak/maniacs not bad either.

silver mantle
#

now sciers or shriek for fire spam

radiant frigate
#

depends entirely on what you intend to shoot with it

quick breach
#

deimos

tulip kettle
#

for deimos its light attack, swap

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then loop on 1

#

but many of them are broken on latest version of skitarius, FGS is too, so if it doesnt work just download a few versions older

quick breach
#

thank u

eager knoll
#

vet got netted and killed by flamers and bombers

#

revived him and cleared a path back to the team with my trauma spam

#

turn around 30 seconds later and he's gone further towards our spawn and he is dead again

#

he was so far away that he was fully dead by the time we reached him the second time

#

tried blox

quartz barn
#

i look like a sith lmao

#

ill need better dark drip tho

white sky
#

Why's the sword

#

Uh

#

Why's it look like it whispers things to you?

dusk wren
#

weapon customization mod has been notably upgraded

#

there is also a green gamer effect

white sky
#

Thanks

#

Wasn't sure if that was a skin or something

quartz barn
#

it also sets enemies on fire

#

green sword has the tox flamer effect

weary idol
weary crane
#

ill go end myself then

wary sky
#

question: does targetting an enemy with assail make the projectile do more damage

ripe gazelle
royal totem
#

yeah

verbal thistle
#

right click should only be used on snipers since it locks the assail on that target and makes it go further

#

other then that situation, spam left click

ripe gazelle
#

if theres a soulblaze user does that also mean avoid inferno

tulip kettle
#

yes 2 inferno bad

weary idol
wary sky
#

thanks, i've been using it to kill pox hounds

weary idol
#

not worth it for them

#

just use a regular throw to stagger them and then stab them

ripe gazelle
#

this right?

royal totem
#

think it's supposed to be uncanny carapace

#

but somebody can double check me

tulip kettle
#

its 60 cleave and 80 mobility, and cara instead of flak

celest valve
#

or put another way because of how high their health is otherwise: they take 33% damage from non-melee attacks

celest valve
weary idol
sturdy reef
#

the mutant one hurts the most

wraith sphinx
#

quite so

#

mutants feel spongey now

royal totem
#

7 mutants

strong gulch
#

never dodge

mutie movetech

royal totem
#

Mmmm sus

strong gulch
#

Win the mutie 50/50 every time.

potent saffron
#

My build be wack

royal totem
strong gulch
royal totem
#

Lmaooo

icy breach
# weary crane

ME, @weary sable @lament obsidian @potent saffron Had worse... we had Refinery Delta

potent saffron
#

Guess the staff I used and win a cookie from my beloved

icy breach
weary sable
#

We also have the footage of every attempt before that

royal totem
#

Oh no

royal totem
#

Im the one that miscalculate my 50%

ornate hamlet
#

does this increase your psyking damage? warp or whatever its called

weary sable
#

The number of total attempts is 31.

wispy bay
#

Better luck next time

weary sable
#

We had a lot of luck and a lot of misfortune.

strong gulch
ornate hamlet
#

hmm okay

tulip kettle
#

damage farming go brrrr

potent saffron
#

And what a harvest it was!

weary sable
#

Out of interest, what would you do to make this faster?

#

Like.. you know.. not 1 Hour and 34 Minutes?

potent saffron
#

Let's hear it, or else I plant YOU for my next harvest

tulip kettle
#

not have a guy smiting to enable you to damage farm

#

and not go backwards costantly for an extra 40 minutes

lament obsidian
#

To be fair we did do a load of runs with ogryn instead of smite

weary sable
#

Fair enough take, now, please explain how you would deal with the all the armour and extra spawns you would get when rushing ahead or.. finding yourself in a really bad position.

potent saffron
#

So in short CC bad, just kill them-

tulip kettle
#

i mean

#

my longest ever H40 is 1 hr 12

weary sable
#

I am not trolling here, different takes are welcome, if they are serious.

tulip kettle
#

and that was noticeably long

icy breach
#

Not to mention limited space; pox gas in refinery delta is one of the hardest

potent saffron
#

We were playing it careful there's a world difference 'tween that and "sitting around" my lad

tulip kettle
#

okay homie

weary sable
#

That is true.

sturdy reef
#

I lost this one and it was like 35-40 mins?

tulip kettle
#

i think for a game to take more than an hour, you are intentionally slow playing it, and running backwards every time anything spawns

potent saffron
#

Enlighten us, how can we stop our heinous damage farming ways

sturdy reef
#

my e peen is bigger

#

!!!!!!

tulip kettle
#

by going forwards

#

thats literally it

sturdy reef
#

get better at damage farming

potent saffron
#

We wouldn't backtrack half as much we did if it weren't for the pox gas modifier

#

We need your lungs to inhale the gas away from us so we can charge forth!

royal totem
#

@strong gulch hi. You gonna play today or no?

strong gulch
#

IDK. My brains are questionable. I am logging in to delete my arby tho.

icy breach
icy breach
weary sable
#

If we ever find a mission like that, we could invite you to it, so that you can demonstrate your approach to it. How about that?

tulip kettle
#

sure?

potent saffron
#

Cmon we're not that intimidating

tulip kettle
#

i have a 43 min power matrix with rot purple and healing from today

royal totem
#

One day ill play with papa willy

weary sable
#

Does this mission include.. Gas?

potent saffron
tulip kettle
#

yes i mistyped it was supposed to say gas instead of purple i just typed it twice

weary sable
#

Let me correct it, Tox Gas and Extra Tox Bombers

tulip kettle
#

its always extra bombers with gas

strong gulch
#

Oh wow. The delete screen is much more menacing. Seems like a good changed. I wonder when this screen was changed.

strong gulch
royal totem
strong gulch
icy breach
tulip kettle
#

im not flaming you, and i think gas sucks. I literally wont play gas + stims. but i also think 1.43 is excessive and literally the longest clear time ive seen

icy breach
#

same for ventilation purge OR ventilation purge (sniper gauntlent)

#

and

#

power outtage OR power outtage (pox hounds)

tulip kettle
weary sable
#

If you do not play this, how would you know how to tackle it?

tulip kettle
#

so what mods was this? not rot + purple?

tulip kettle
#

that is extra tox bombers?

potent saffron
#

Yes

#

Rotten armor forces scab feed and tox bombers TOGETHER

#

It was hell-

icy breach
tulip kettle
#

like, huh? i just said ive never seen without tox bombers

icy breach
#

esentially you get both bombers

tulip kettle
#

so, yes? this is indeed pox gas with extra tox bombers

#

my guy

ornate hamlet
#

getting the hang of psyker, at least starting to but still not too sure why the visuals of the flame is going so far away when hitboxes of it is nowhere near that good

weary idol
#

hey so we heard pox gas was wildly unpopular and considered one of the worst modifiers in the game what could we do to add it to havoc?

tulip kettle
#

the point that was made was that you get gas without tox bombers

#

and im saying you dont, its always tox bombers

weary idol
#

Make it spawn the most hated specialist unit in the game more often!

icy breach
#

BUT you can get pox gas WITHOUT tox bombers

tulip kettle
#

and you posted tox bombers

#

i have never seen that

icy breach
#

there are triggers just like for bosses

tulip kettle
#

and my biggest point was that you can just be willing to move forward when youre supposed to instead of waiting for the next horde to spawn while youre still in the same spot, then clearing that horde, then not moving forward, then another horde spawns, etc etc

#

just move forward

#

and again, if it was stims, then just fuck that all the way off, because 100% DR enemies is the worst game design ive ever seen

weary sable
#

Stims have no say in this discussion right now.

tulip kettle
#

so it wasnt stims?

#

then my point stands, move forwards.

weary sable
#

No, it wasn't stims.

ornate hamlet
tulip kettle
#

no tox bombers in pox gas modifer are pure cancer

#

the fact they dont need LoS is also terrible game design

ornate hamlet
#

makes you harder to see no?

tulip kettle
#

they dont need to see

lament obsidian
tulip kettle
#

?

#

im not saying dont kill stuff

#

im saying move forward when the gas wave ends

ornate hamlet
#

you know whats funny tho, in one mission in that ice map where you have to free the iced up gear sand stuff, that map going up the stairs in the last area, one bomber knocked off 3 people

tulip kettle
#

to the next safe point

#

then clear

ornate hamlet
#

including me

tulip kettle
#

then wait for gas to end

ornate hamlet
#

and only one guy carried

tulip kettle
#

then move forward

#

and if you finish clearing before the gas ends

icy breach
tulip kettle
#

just go forward to the next safe point

lament obsidian
#

We did that, we didn't just sit behind gas for no reason - we had book and shout to push through it to the next bit. But sometimes you end up in a bad spot and have to go backwards to a more favourable position

tulip kettle
#

oh yeah dude ive never seen it 🙃

icy breach
#

you seem oblivious to how hard it was considering every trigger point, terrain & waves of rotten armour

weary idol
#

that I LOVE bringing up

weary sable
#

Well, since you are obviously experienced with that, do you happen to remember the team composition you did that with?

weary idol
#

They are the only specialist in the game whose audio gets quieter over distance!

tulip kettle
#

i can check 1 second

weary idol
#

Combine this with them not needing LoS, and the twenty extra meters of range they have over standard bombers

#

And frequently the only fucking time you notice a tox bomber exists is because a grenade has exploded at your feet

tulip kettle
#

1 of each no arb, book zealot, shout vet, shield tauntgryn, bubble inferno

ornate hamlet
#

yo guys does the charge bar while holding rmb with the flame staff and it changes colors like red and blue does it have a meaning to it?

tulip kettle
#

495 specials killed

weary sable
#

So, you happen to have a scoreboard of that?

royal totem
#

i can't believe i'm saying this but i'm oddly going to offer a take. What Dom does works well enough for Dom and is valid. But what other people do to win works for other people and is equally valid. i think it's a little shitty to argue "only my way is correct" cuz at the end of the day that attitude is pretty elitist in and of itself.

lament obsidian
#

We're definitely not trying to say it's the only way!

tulip kettle
lament obsidian
#

For example my build is basically just to kill bosses - I could have taken something else to clear normal waves faster

royal totem
lament obsidian
potent saffron
#

We're saying our way is not the defacto way but sayng we're just "damage farming" while never having done a mission this ridiculous is asinine

lament obsidian
tulip kettle
#

idk i just saw you have 5200 total kills

potent saffron
#

It's because it is

tulip kettle
#

and 1.40

lament obsidian
tulip kettle
#

so i know you have spawned a whole bunch of extra enemies by not moving forward

#

and one guy has nearly 50k staggers

potent saffron
#

#justsmitethings

icy breach
tulip kettle
#

yup thats why i said you have a smyker

#

and i also said im not flaming you

potent saffron
#

You likely do know how enemies can and will follow you through those fake doors right? What you rush by will turn up along with the ambients of the next zone

tulip kettle
#

but 1.40 and 5.2k is the definition of dmg farming, and i think you could have cleared faster

#

im not

#

saying

#

not to kill stuff

#

im saying by not moving forward you are spawning additional waves

lament obsidian
tulip kettle
#

i think you guys are obviously good players

#

likely better than me

#

but i also think that is by far the longest clear ive seen and more than 1000 enemies more than a high enemy count game

#

which means you were not moving forward

potent saffron
#

I think it was just the wording used earlier, as if we're inflating a number to show off, to who?

lament obsidian
tulip kettle
#

that was my whole point

royal totem
#

i'm pretty sure damage farming requires intention. like if your intention is just being cautious and wanting to be certain that's not really damage farming imo cuz again, lack of intention.

icy breach
potent saffron
#

The 5 people here who'd likely even remotely care?

ornate hamlet
#

this trash?

ornate hamlet
#

heavy sword

verbal thistle
#

its good, dump is defense

tulip kettle
#

my dodge key might as well not exist

icy breach
tulip kettle
#

i personally love sliding towards trappers and misjudging it to slide directly into a net 1m in front of them

royal totem
lament obsidian
icy breach
potent saffron
#

All of us here just at 3-4am going back and forth over scores that you need mods to see

royal totem
#

idk it's 6PM here

strong gulch
royal totem
#

need help? lol

#

i forgot i talk to mostly EU people lmao

hearty wolf
#

Potato needs no help

#

potato is king

royal totem
#

ok ok i'll just sit back in the corner then

strong gulch
#

burger

tulip kettle
#

like i say it wasnt meant to be flaming and i think pox gas is the fucking worst of all time, and i just wont play it at all with stims. blue ragers already make me wet myself most of the time.

#

changing the subject

#

whats the hardest map this season and why is it silo

potent saffron
#

Silo with armor and purple can be rancid with all the chokepoints

tulip kettle
#

ive noticed it more than on other maps, that if you go the "wrong way", you get ruthlessly punished

royal totem
#

i've yet to successfully pass power matrix with rituals but probably a skill issue (yes it's cuz of that one DH spawn)

icy breach
tulip kettle
#

yeah i think part of the problem with the end event is the mid section luls you into a false sense of security

#

so you get to the last room and people get overconfident

potent saffron
#

There is no safety in the end event, only dodging

#

Dance dance dance!

icy breach
#

Don't forget the tunnel to the end event

tulip kettle
#

i think if you go left on entry and stick tight as 4 and disciplined with abilities its not terible

tulip kettle
#

but what usually happens is at least 1 person yolo's towards the objective and then its just game over

#

and the first section is really spawn dependent

#

if you can make it to the bottom of the stairs in good time without stalling you can often get there before the gunner waves are there and hold the bottom of the ramp pretty effectively

#

other times youve killed 5 bosses before the bottom of the stairs

strong gulch
#

@royal totem If you wanted play, you're more than welcome to. It's just baby times tho.

royal totem
#

i'll play anything lmao. let me load game

#

ok i'm on

#

i'm trying to acclimate to this wep but i'm still not used to it

#

oh ._. i just got kicked out what

quiet inlet
#

yah, we all did

#

too much justice

strong gulch
ornate hamlet
#

quell speed is important on voidforce inferno staff?

tulip kettle
#

its not super important

#

but you usually dump warp resistance because high peril = more dmg

ornate hamlet
#

k ill try find one like that then

tulip kettle
#

inferno also has some slightly more advanced mechanics that make the peril gen essentially not matter at all - you can quell for one "tick" to get below 90% peril. you can then charge the inferno and provided you release the charge and cast before 100, you will go to 100 and not explode

royal totem
#

hmmm

#

the ability to walk up to small gunners is strong

tulip kettle
zinc phoenix
#

I wish they would nerf inferno tbh

#

Purgatus is out here making the game boring and devs are just letting it happen

tulip kettle
#

this applies to all staves tbf but its most useful on inferno and vb

#

inferno, quite literally, does not need nerfing

#

if anything uncanny needs nerfing, or they need to make blessings only apply to the weapon the blessing is on

#

but both of those things would break one of the key advanced mechanics in the game

#

and lastly, at this point krak vets have significantly better burst dps into key targets than anything psyker can do

hearty wolf
#

It's time to use the power sword

tulip kettle
#

who cares if psyker farms an extra million dmg in a game off poxwalkers

hearty wolf
#

I am logging on

tulip kettle
#

😮

#

a rare sin sighting

quiet inlet
#

zap!

hearty wolf
#

I swear I am around frequently

#

it's just you launch the game and then go into a coma or something

tulip kettle
#

moaning about not having any games to play

hearty wolf
#

and stay in operative select for ages

#

I got Ninja Gaiden sigma collection

tulip kettle
#

ill have you know im watching sharpe re runs

hearty wolf
#

I have been entertained

#

Finally an action game that isn't piss easy like all the soulslike

#

a REAL action game

brittle berry
#

whats the best secondary for melee psyker

#

i still carry the inferno staff bcs of the fragile stacks on hit

tulip kettle
#

recon las mk 12, vraks iag

verbal thistle
#

whatever you need

#

voidstrike and surge staff are infinite ammo anti special

#

shredder auto is anti maniac

#

IaG is a good well rounded gun

#

recon is a good infernus stacking and crit talent activating gun

#

double barrel is fun

#

Combat shotgun has good ammo eco and good burst unyeilding damage

#

all guns have a place

#

las pistol best mobility

#

if you boil it all down, I'd say las pistol or surge staff gets the most value

tulip kettle
#

@hearty wolf you want in to 40?

strong gulch
#

@royal totem Game keeps crashing and kicking me to operative selection. So I am done for now. Thanks for game.

royal totem
#

np np

#

i can't get psy something something mod to work

strong gulch
#

do what now?

royal totem
#

mmmm

#

psykernautics

#

i've downloaded it

#

put it in mod folder

#

updated mod load order

#

but it errors when i'm loading the game

strong gulch
#

I am not familiar with it. IDK if it broke in a recent patch or something.

zinc phoenix
strong gulch
royal totem
#

i'll think about it :3

#

i'm honestly just trying to find a solution for my reliance on things like wallhacks to find specials 🙁

#

(please note i don't actually cheat. i just use EO on arb)

zinc phoenix
#

running into other psykers in the event is always... interesting

#

they uh

#

they really dont know at all what to do

zinc phoenix
#

ok, and now for something completely different

dusky crag
plucky flax
#

I found out it was colorselection mod which is quite heavy on memory

#

But its so pretty nooooo

royal totem
#

Idk

#

I still cant get it to work

#

Actualy my dt might be a bit broken is my conclusion

verbal thistle
royal totem
#

Ooof

verbal thistle
#

I hate how shock mines remove their audio and have them instantly ready to shoot

wraith sphinx
#

That's fiendish wtf

ripe obsidian
#

Ainz, what think ye is the hardest modifier combo and with which map(s)?

verbal thistle
#

Stim purple gas on any smaller map

#

Consignment yard probably

radiant frigate
#

#FREECLAD

wraith sphinx
#

Kat the bell of lost souls rang for him

#

you have to let it go...

radiant frigate
#

😭

trim wren
#

Is mellee psyker a thing now

#

With the new revamped tree

plucky flax
#

Sure

analog verge
#

but its even stronger now, yes

hoary mauve
#

is anyone on EU servers who might be willing to help me do the penance Malleus Monstronum? It's the one where it has to be in a private game and I have to do over 50% damage on a boss with brain burst. I don't have friends playing this game xD

plucky flax
#

Clad would help but he's in jail.

#

#freeclad

analog verge
#

life sentence for clad

plucky flax
#

@radiant frigate

trim wren
#

Why in jail

#

I wanna force greatsword

analog verge
#

take scriers gaze and disrupt destiny

#

then just use force greatsword

#

kill everything, win game

trim wren
#

Oh so my old perma scriers gaze build then

analog verge
#

essentially

trim wren
#

Is disrupt better now?

trim wren
#

I used to take it but barely got any procs

analog verge
#

psyker cdr got nerfed but you still get scriers back pretty much immediately

trim wren
#

Then I switched to warp charges

zealous wing
#

levelling a second permanent psyker atm just lmk when and i'll switch over

analog verge
plucky flax
#

It's a buff for psyker but a nerf for the team.

#

New cdr I mean.

analog verge
#

will usually pick closer enemies and retargets after killing enemies faster

trim wren
#

Oh finally

hoary mauve
zealous wing
#

i dont mic either

analog verge
#

much easier to keep up now imo

plucky flax
#

They should just finally make it ahve multiple targets.

trim wren
#

And what about gs blessings?

plucky flax
#

Like the arby keystone.

#

Or at least 2 at the same time.

analog verge
#

theres also now a talent for +20% damage to ogryns and fuckin uh. monstrosiites yeah thats the one

radiant frigate
zealous wing
analog verge
radiant frigate
#

we out here doing boss damage now

trim wren
#

And do I play with smite and the heavy electris or is head pop still better

analog verge
#

maybe wrath unstable for high havoc, dont do much psyker there

hoary mauve
#

wait a sec, having crazy lag atm

zealous wing
#

if youre a meleeker, assail is generally better

trim wren
#

Kat why u in jail

analog verge
#

bring assail

trim wren
#

I meant taking smite for heavy zsap

radiant frigate
analog verge
#

it helps with horde clear, triggering malefic momentum, and snipes faster

zealous wing
analog verge
zealous wing
#

dont bother

trim wren
#

Still?

#

Dang

zealous wing
#

like every piece of smite

trim wren
#

Kat do you mind sharing your gs build

hoary mauve
analog verge
#

weaving assail in between strikes of gs is great for horde clear and damage

zealous wing
#

ye or you can copy the code in my nickname into the social tab

radiant frigate
#

oh wait that is anticipation

#

oopsie

#

more accurate

trim wren
#

Do I need to take the quell bottom ones

radiant frigate
#

no

trim wren
#

Aight

radiant frigate
#

bcob is more than enough quelling

trim wren
#

What's bcob

graceful arch
#

Sorry if it's a dumb question

analog verge
#

assail

#

and force greatswod beam

graceful arch
#

I guess it makes sense if you have a staff as backup weapon

analog verge
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i almost constantly use assail on my fgd build

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fgs

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both to get malefic momentum and to hc easier

graceful arch
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Personally would have ran this instead

analog verge
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anticipations nice

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but im near constantly getting warp kills

trim wren
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Yeah I'd run it like I would the right tree of veteran

graceful arch
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That's empathic not anticipation.

trim wren
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Constantly switching between warp and non warp

analog verge
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oh

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wait that means kat doesnt take EE

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fuck, didnt see the second image kat sent

graceful arch
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They did they posted 2 builds

analog verge
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whatever, anyway, toughness back for fgs beam and assail is grete

trim wren
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Alright I'll try it out

graceful arch
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I'm just a slut for perfectionism.

analog verge
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psyker should get more points, they're just too weak right now whatthefuck_heresy

trim wren
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Ayo

graceful arch
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For non perfectionist I think your mileage would be greater with warp ghost for toughness management

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Just try it out for yourself and see what you prefer these are rather small changes

analog verge
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they're much too squishy and just dont get enough toughness regen

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they need a damage buff

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soulblaze especially, its so slow :)

analog verge
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warp ghost is goated

graceful arch
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You joke but unironically an opinion held by bad psykers

analog verge
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means i can drop my stam curio on DS

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and just keep sprinting with fgs

graceful arch
analog verge
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toughness replenishment on a class with some of the best tgh regen

graceful arch
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With quietude JAD and SG warp ghost mutants can't even damage you.

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Without SG you take 5 damage total if your toughness is full.

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It's kind of hilarious

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It's actually insane how Tanky you are outside of big hits and being trapped in fire.

analog verge
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they should add a talent that lets you survive lethal damage but sets you to 100% peril

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perhaps with a cooldown of 2 minutes

graceful arch
graceful arch
analog verge
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smite needs a rework too

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it should just be something you set down and it continuously stuns enemies in an area

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a sort of... psychic mine

graceful arch
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Know what fuck it why not just give the flame staff ammo and make it apply fire instead of soulblaze.

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And give psyker a dash that increases their attack speed for the next 20 seconds

analog verge
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while we're at it, regular builds get so much toughness from warp kills, but melee psyker really needs some better survivability

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they should get two talents

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which make heavy attacks restore toughness depending on if you hit 1 or multiple enemies

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would synergize very well with fgs

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perhaps even oh, say... 40% damage reduction, basekit, if you go down the melee side

acoustic jacinth
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I mean