psyker-class

[hasty cliff]

And then climb again after the reset? How is that fun?

[zealous wing]

the CLIMB isnt fun, the goal is

[tulip kettle]

i find playing havoc 40 fun

[zealous wing]

if dom gets h40 back he can drag me back into it so i can learn the hard way how to do it proper

[tulip kettle]

and if i get a game with bad team mates, and i wont derank, so what

[hasty cliff]

Playing 40s is fun, but why not just join other people’s 40s and not give a damn about whether you win or lose?

[zealous wing]

because others arent always available

[tulip kettle]

because then i am rleiant on people accepting me into their game

oh you arent running bubble? declined

you arent running inferno? declined

[strong gulch]

Because you have to join someone else's 40.

[tulip kettle]

we already have psyker? declined

its 3 am?

you guessed it, declined

[hasty cliff]

Well that’s just how it is. Never said the system was perfect.

[zealous wing]

hence his desire to get his own assignment back

[strong gulch]

Fewer map options and if not playing x most don't want you.

[zealous wing]

if you have your own assignment you dont have to deal with the system

[hasty cliff]

I just don’t see the point in you torturing yourself in a climb that’s just going to reset within a few months, while also having potentially worse modifiers than the current ones.

[tulip kettle]

if i have 40 i can accept clearance 20's and not care and have fun

i enjoy the current modifiers (except stimms in gas because FUCK invincible enemies)

[strong gulch]

H40 is where you can play the game vs "work". Even more so if you can host.

[hasty cliff]

The reset is what prevents me from doing the bs grind over and over.

It just takes all the purpose out of the grind if it’s not something that will remain.

But you do you. Continue the grind to 40 if you want.

And there’s really no rewards to work for whatsoever. Nothing to make the grind worthwhile besides a finite time in which you can run 40s at a whim.

[zealous wing]

for people who enjoy the gameplay, thats enough reward

[tulip kettle]

yes and thats my goal in the game, i play aurics with friends and i play 40s

[strong gulch]

I think the derank is more of an issue. Grinding would be "play the game" without deranking.

But also I wish the game let us just choose whatever havoc difficulty level once we've cleared it.

[hasty cliff]

Fair and valid.

[zealous wing]

no one ENJOYS the derank, but some are willing to tolerate it rather than give up on it

[hasty cliff]

I blame Fatshark for that. Everything was fine with the original system.

[strong gulch]

No. It was bad.

[zealous wing]

from what i hear, in the og system, i'd have h40 by now

[strong gulch]

Unless you mean quick play.

[hasty cliff]

Seems like a Sisyphean cycle to me, but ok.

[hasty cliff]

And that’s perfectly fine.

[graceful arch]

Imagine beating a lower havoc a week would derank you like crazy.

[zealous wing]

that implies no point

the point is challenging gameplay, as often as you want, whenever you want

with whoever you want

[tulip kettle]

i had no issue with being set to the rank of the highest clear you did the week before

[hasty cliff]

Sure, some people got carried, but at least you could run infinite 40s whenever.

[tulip kettle]

you clear one 40 per week and you deserve to be there

no big deal

[hasty cliff]

Exactly

The new system just made havoc more build/rank “elitist” than before.

[candid temple]

in 2025, that is a very niche market

[plucky flax]

I kind of like the rank up system it builds character

[fierce crest]

Could make it that you get three chances to rank up but then don't get demoted

[hasty cliff]

You have Stockholm syndrome to the new system pal.

[fierce crest]

You just have to win two before you lose three

[white sky]

And how often do you partake in it with randoms?

[fierce crest]

And losing three just resets the one win instead of de-ranking

[tulip kettle]

i must have a character the size of a skyscraper

i was 39 TWICE this week

and now i am 32

im just sick of it

[plucky flax]

Everyday? I rank up with party finder this season cos syllo was sucking bad and I lost many games with him

[white sky]

Alright

[tulip kettle]

i posted a clip above and its just this same shit every game

all game long

[plucky flax]

I dont have premade

[white sky]

You used to talk about queueing havoc a lot with Syllo and someone else is why I ask

[tulip kettle]

he is lying

karien carried him

[zealous wing]

[plucky flax]

Yeah once a week only

[hasty cliff]

[tulip kettle]

plus some unsanctionedpsyker guy

[plucky flax]

Then I still have to go up the rest myself

[tulip kettle]

and his buddy traxisthingywotsit

[plucky flax]

Why can't she carry me all the time

[tulip kettle]

I CAN RELATE.

[hasty cliff]

You have to carry yourself pal.

[zealous wing]

there's only so much time she can send herself from the future

[plucky flax]

I did manage to

[royal totem]

all i do in havoc is derank people i know. so i just stopped pl aying with people i know.

[zealous wing]

all the more reason to get dom to 40 then we can all fuck around together

[plucky flax]

For me it's the easiest when I play purga cos im kind of op on that build. Other classes and build make it a bit harder when I go try hard mode

[candid temple]

fire staff nerf when?

[zealous wing]

fuckin love that clip

[strong gulch]

I immediately went back to do it some more.

[royal totem]

see, the thing i'm most afraid of is people i chat with regularly getting mad at me cuz i messed up too much

and if i don't play with them

[candid temple]

buffs for everything else when?

[royal totem]

they won't get mad at me

[zealous wing]

[candid temple]

bruh, stop giving a fuuuuck

[plucky flax]

Oh i offer to help people here to rank up but not always successful

[hasty cliff]

If people get pissy over a video game, they have bigger problems.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-rudd-anchorman-the-legend-of-ron-burgundy-works-every-time-gif-4099165

[zealous wing]

a) its a game
b) I dont care about derank
c) shit happens
d) long as you learn something, even if its a small thing, its still a win, imo

[ripe obsidian]

Be better. Be like Karien.

[plucky flax]

No one is as pro as her

[candid temple]

Carrien, you mean?

[tulip kettle]

then we lose and you flame me 🙁

[candid temple]

or is it Carryen?

[zealous wing]

karien carryin carrion

[hasty cliff]

Absolutely based take.

[plucky flax]

Maybe it was the 2 other really bad players tilted me sry

[zealous wing]

silly agent you arent supposed to flame dom, youre supposed to flame the heretics >:(

[tulip kettle]

is ok 🫂

nah the other 2 dudes were just literally useless and awful and flaming me

[hasty cliff]

Friendly fire when?

[tulip kettle]

he wanted to join in the fun

[plucky flax]

Amd I was short on time so I wanted the best chance for us but the decisions making were sus

[zealous wing]

:(

[strong gulch]

sus decisions 😭

[hasty cliff]

Ah, a classic.

[royal totem]

@strong gulch i still cant dodge slide 🙁

[zealous wing]

took me a while to get it down properly dw about it yet

[novel yoke]

Maybe change keybind

I have crouch bound to mouse4 so it's easy to click both

[zealous wing]

i have sprint bound to a mouse side button instead

habit from minecraft, then vintage story, now every game

[novel yoke]

Yeah that's mouse4 and mouse5

[zealous wing]

i have a true gamer mouse

12 side buttons

many options

[patent jacinth]

Side button sprinters are weird

[hasty cliff]

I can’t fathom how people can run 40s using m&k. Controller just feels so much better. (Besides the occasional jump on dodge input )

[patent jacinth]

Side buttons are weapon actions or pings

[zealous wing]

side button is also weapon special

thats button... 7 technically, but i think its programmed as 5

[novel yoke]

Usually I hear the opposite lol

[zealous wing]

i also have media controls on there. gotta have the right music going, or pause for sudden serious mode

[novel yoke]

Most ppl hate using controller from what I've seen here

[hasty cliff]

You get used to controller drawbacks. It’s just so much better for me at least.

[candid temple]

how do you headshot with sticks?

[humble skiff]

will we ever get an ice staff

[strong gulch]

Oh feck. I just remembered that my cats grabbed my mouse. I found it IN THE TRASH with the bottom ripped off. SO any weights fell into the trash. My partner took the trash out before I remembered to look for the weights.

IDK if there actually were any in it. I'll never know now.

[hasty cliff]

Aiming a bit?

[novel yoke]

Bro got the WoW mouse

Ppl say headshotting is easier with controller since you can keep it at head height easier

[candid temple]

how do you flick 90-180 degrees to snipe three different specials in 2 seconds?

[zealous wing]

i do think controller vs keyboard is just a familiarity thing. if you know how X works, youll think X is better than Y, simply because you feel more comfortable on X

[novel yoke]

Flicking is hard on controller though

[novel yoke]

Thats not relevant to this game

But in general about controller vs mkb

[hasty cliff]

Well, I turn at the speed of a freighter with a hole in it, but I still get the three specials in enough time.

[tulip kettle]

i remember years ago when i first started playing PC games after playing halo2 on xbox for years

i felt like M+K was awful

[ripe obsidian]

I need to stop using the power sword on veteran. I know it's great, but the bad mobility keeps leading to me getting myself into bad situations

[strong gulch]

It's part familiarity. I started on controller. Between motion and sweating issues, keyboard was and is a much better option for me.

[tulip kettle]

recently i tried to play BF6 with a controller and didnt even last an entire game before i went back to M+K

[novel yoke]

Real, go assault chainsword instead

[tulip kettle]

the only thing i use a contorller for now is flying helicopters

sticks will always be superior for that

[novel yoke]

Controller's really good for platformers too

[hasty cliff]

I’ve never gotten used to m&k for fps games. My controller will always be there for me.

[novel yoke]

Some isometric games are good on controller too

[tulip kettle]

though im kind of salty that in BF6 they added "easy mode" for flying

[novel yoke]

But fps ain't no way

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe.

I also struggle because vet just dies in one hit

somehow squishier than the wizard class

[plucky flax]

But the free aimbot in modern competitive fps games

I heard cod controllers are op

[novel yoke]

I know the feel, but the fix is spamming dodge

[ripe obsidian]

Spamming dodge on power sword makes me ded

[plucky flax]

I dont think the aimbot is strong for dt tho

[novel yoke]

That's what I did to counteract it, worked up to auric

[hasty cliff]

I turned it off early on. Aim assist caused more problems than it solved.

[novel yoke]

Oh nah psword is cooked

[tulip kettle]

i feel like vet is squisher to melee, maybe, but psyker is still squisher to ranged

[novel yoke]

I know it's strong but I always do better with chaxe, axe or chsword

[ripe obsidian]

Power sword feels great until I realize I have no dodges and there are eight crushers in my personal space

[plucky flax]

Do you play on console too?

[hasty cliff]

No

[novel yoke]

Try out chaxe then, it's my fav vet weapon

[strong gulch]

To quote my partner, "Vet is not for fightin'."

He likes to run up stab and do fancy foot and melee tactics. IDK how he even plays the game. Dude is build different.

[plucky flax]

Karien is pc player but play with no mods and on controlle4

She too pro

[hasty cliff]

Mods are eh. Never needed them myself.

[ripe obsidian]

Apparently so. I feel better in melee with Psyker (and of course Arby and Zealot, but whatever)

[raw garnet]

Preferably with one person next to you and a grenade on hand at all times

[hasty cliff]

Don’t need all the fancy-schmancy things. Just a controller and aim assist off.

[plucky flax]

Scoreboard is good for damage epeen

[hasty cliff]

Meh, could give less of a care about that. Not a green circle chaser.

[tulip kettle]

its because you are actually generating toughness through the stuff in the background burning to death on psyker, on vet you get 1 free hit / 2 with gold tough then you dead

[hasty cliff]

Or a true level note taker

[ripe obsidian]

I know. D:

[strong gulch]

Mods like full auto are needed for me. Hands bad.

[plucky flax]

Also its good to check goofy builds in havoc party finder

[ripe obsidian]

And Vet's passive toughness gen node is awful.

[hasty cliff]

Carpal tunnel goes brrr

[tulip kettle]

but then the gunners open up and you miss an EE proc and on psyker you just dead

[hasty cliff]

You just accept it.

[tulip kettle]

meanwhile vet with his gold tough + iron will stands there and takes it no problems

[strong gulch]

I wish it was just carpal tunnel.

[hasty cliff]

Unrelated: My wrist is killing me though.

[plucky flax]

Tru

[nocturne wasp]

Sometimes i just have to put the controller down mid game for like a whole minute to get the feeling back in my left hand

[tulip kettle]

sometimes i see vets / arbys getting shot and im sat there like "people want EE to get nerfed ?!?!? what about this shit"

[hasty cliff]

My man had a stroke for a moment there.

[zealous wing]

good feelings

[tulip kettle]

the reaper - dakadakadakadakadaka the vet - i still have 95% of my toughness left, eat plasma.

[nocturne wasp]

I type like a drunken chimp on the regular

[hasty cliff]

Big Mood.

[nocturne wasp]

If I don't edit then assume I'm stronking out

[hasty cliff]

It is now midnight. Gonna sleep. Goodnight.

[nocturne wasp]

Rest well. the inquisition isn't done with you,

[ripe obsidian]

Wot're the blessings/perks for H40 chain axe and chain sword? And what marks?

[zealous wing]

qp keeps giving me riser 😭

[ripe obsidian]

Pain.

[strong gulch]

Chainaxe 4 horde clear is PA dependent. The lights are revs.

Chainaxe 12 is more like the rashad. Light spam for hordes. I think the PA can stagger even bigger targets. NO clue how it is in H40 or on vet.

idk what the perks and blessings are either

I do know the chainaxe bleeding is funny. YOu get max stacks right away for some reason.

[crisp ether]

I love how warp ghost makes melee psyker a strong possibility on any ability

[royal totem]

Sorry whsts PA

[strong gulch]

push attack

[royal totem]

Ah ty

[strong gulch]

Iirc, the heavies don't get canceled by sprinting now.

I am not a chainaxe expert I swear.

[royal totem]

When i enter combat and my brain just goes blank and defaults to spammy buttons

[sturdy reef]

melee psyker doesnt necessarily run warp ghost

it is good tho

[crisp ether]

it's more that it allows you to keep your peril high passively for warp rider to get more use

[sturdy reef]

you can already do that with assail/sg tho

its kinda redundant

you really only get the tgh replenishment out of it

[crisp ether]

it's redundant, with those particular things

but what if you want to run bubble shield

break the mold

become bubble knight

[sturdy reef]

you'd still run DD

[modest perch]

its juicy tho

[sturdy reef]

and for BK I probably would run it

I havent really needed it in my H40 runs

with melee psyker

[novel yoke]

I've never done h40 but it was fine on auric (haven't beaten maelstrom yet either), if I remember right I had thunderous and bloodletter on it, and it was the mk4

[crisp ether]

like yeah it's kinda pointless with sg and assail but that's what i mean by letting it be way more viable on other abilities

[modest perch]

yeaj ok i probably wouldnt take it in h40 but i probably also wouldnt be the melee psyker

[sturdy reef]

I take it for my staff builds

since Im not running KD on them anymore

[ripe obsidian]

anyone else been getting a bug where you can't ping or see the mission info/scoreboard when you press tab?

Or see the quick-chat wheel, actually

[zealous wing]

i havent, but im not using scoreboard anymore, and i also have for the emperor/vacuum capsule modifying my wheel, so could be factors

[ripe obsidian]

I think it must be one of my mods interfering with overlay stuff somehow

[zealous wing]

possibly, is there one that affects both?

[plucky flax]

Yeah i do occasionally. Then it comes back

[ripe obsidian]

So I am not alone. How long it takes to come back is random. Sometimes it lasts through one mission and into another. Other times it's only a minute or two

[plucky flax]

Hmm i haven't had it happened the whole round

[ripe obsidian]

I just did

[plucky flax]

But scoreboard value is still correct at the end and I can still ping enemies so its alright

[ripe obsidian]

I can't ping enemies when it happens

[plucky flax]

Oh that's weird

I could

[ripe obsidian]

I've gotta believe it's a mod being funky

or a mod load order thing

[summer prairie]

It also happens on xbox

[ripe obsidian]

Oh.

Well then.

[plucky flax]

Squash the bug

[strong gulch]

The not able to ping or tag bug gets me a lot.

[ripe obsidian]

This is unfortunate

[weary crane]

I might use KP over SP, just to guarantee gunner one shots with BB

[tulip kettle]

when it happens, you also cant spectate other players if youre dead

dont ask me how i know

[candid temple]

have you tried the reconnect mod?

[quartz barn]

For some reason this only hits me when i actually try to ping

I rarely ping and when i try to its bugged

Best bug atm however is the dh cultists spawning somewhere oob

[ripe obsidian]

Had that in the same mission as the ping bug

[ripe obsidian]

I have not

[tiny hatch]

happened to me when playing on my arbitrator, either relaunch the game or just wait a bit, and it'll just fix itself

[deft stump]

Sometimes it's entire missions, and I don't mod.

[modest perch]

happened to me while i was trying to finish the focus target penance

[summer prairie]

Incidentally I think it's related to focus target pinging

[deft stump]

Would suck if I wasn't on a dogless build.

[modest perch]

[summer prairie]

even if it happens to the non-vet

[modest perch]

this is what i get for binding ping to m1

[quartz barn]

Atleast the for the emperor chats still work

Tilting peole with a well timed yes! or no! is probably the best thing in the game

[deft stump]

More, trying to understand Chaos' mind at that point in time.

[quartz barn]

No

[strong gulch]

Yes

[candid temple]

there's a mod that could help with dog build and ping bug

[verbal thistle]

The unused voicelines are funny to repeat at people

[deft stump]

Rejected. I am not modding. I need to yell at FS to add accessiblity baseline ffs.

[marble crater]

You can do both, you know

[junior linden]

I'm kinda bitter wrt devs not adding accessibility at this point so I just use qol mods for basically every game I play since they're a lot easier to dial in what I want

And what I need

[deft stump]

How can you if your game is unrecognisable?

Stares at my L4D2.

[long saddle]

not modding to make a point

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[marble crater]

Using mods doesn't prevent you from asking fatshark to add things as a baseline

[deft stump]

Thing is, you literally give FS that excuse that ppl will just mod it anyway so why bother mentality.

[junior linden]

Insane mentality ngl

[long saddle]

except they do change stuff, like adding the dodge bar

[marble crater]

You are punishing yourself for no reason

[deft stump]

Even if the console crowd can't mod at all.

[deft stump]

Three years later, I suppose.

[junior linden]

Accessibility mods are a big reason why I play games on PC in the first place

[long saddle]

like atp I don't really care if they don't add stuff as long as it doesn't break mods I want to use

[marble crater]

Only if the people using mods stop advocating to make these things baseline in the game

[long saddle]

it's also like

they can look at popular mods

[marble crater]

Mods breaking because of updates is also annoying for those people and they would prefer to not have to deal with that

[long saddle]

mods aren't popular if ppl don't use them

so it's not like most have your mentality

[deft stump]

This is the other reason tbh. I mostly mod single player near End of Updates games.

[long saddle]

v few mods break tbh

[deft stump]

Or long past the point of any updates.

[junior linden]

My mods only really break after bigass updates anyways

[marble crater]

And that is a valid reason for not wanting to mod, your other was not

[long saddle]

like you might get a bit glitchy version with the UI one having that constant counting of new ammo being added

[deft stump]

When you have a 10 gb mod folder and an update drops. Fun day to find out what broke.

[long saddle]

I mean I'm not talking about anything other than darktide

[deft stump]

Yes, I run like 300 mods on L4D2 back then.

[long saddle]

I'm well aware modding bethesda games

[junior linden]

Like all dt mods are a few kb

[deft stump]

This is funnier.

[junior linden]

And they all get updated within the day

[long saddle]

and often just rely on base game info anyway

worst case it just doesn't work, rarely it causes crashes

[deft stump]

I know, script files are nothing. Only model/texture and sound replacements are big tbh.

[junior linden]

no one is doing that in dt

This isn't l4d2

Like 90% of mods are qol

[deft stump]

Publicly, no. I saw ppl posting custom swords and such already.

[junior linden]

That's weapon customization mod yeah

That's all models that exist in game

[deft stump]

As in, weeb sword replacement.

[junior linden]

Okay

[long saddle]

replacing sounds also requires a few more extra steps

or at least adding new ones do

[junior linden]

I remember having to use a local server mod for it lol

[long saddle]

ye I couldn't get that to work

[junior linden]

I don't really use custom sounds anymore

[long saddle]

I only wanted a music player on mourningstar anyway

[junior linden]

I used a mod that replaced the daemonhost voice lines with dracula flow

[kind jay]

disco aquila best mod

[junior linden]

That one's also really good

[plucky flax]

I use mods purely to legally cheat. We're not the same

Spider sense my beloved

[junior linden]

I use Spidey sense because my hearing is a bit off and also in havoc spawn sounds will sometimes just not play because of entity limit or something

[summer prairie]

It's just a visual representation of the audio cues that actually get played, so you aren't getting additional information compared to someone with a good audio setup, I turned it off. Maybe it's better in the sense it stays on the screen

pretty sure it doesn't show the indicator if the cue doesn't get played

[long saddle]

the only cheating-esque ones I use are the hacking minigame ones

[junior linden]

Yeah and that's because the hacking mini games are miserable without it

[long saddle]

maybe clear smoke is in that ballpark too

[obtuse dome]

Wrong

[kind jay]

hacking is fairly boring. elevator music plays in my head everytime i have to do it

[long saddle]

otherwise I keep most visual things vanilla

[junior linden]

Okay yeah

My bad

[obtuse dome]

A lot of people use macros or wallhacks spawn information or „spidey sense“. And call it qol.

And i wont even know

[deft stump]

You can hit it in current heresy already tbh. Happens in auric for sure.

[obtuse dome]

Cause theres no way to check

[junior linden]

I meant 10gb huge texture mods

[obtuse dome]

That too

But that dont bother me

Doesnt affect me

[junior linden]

It doesn't bother me either

[deft stump]

It does when the guy abusing Skitarius is also the guy screaming at others for not doing boss or otherwise damage.

Because scoreboard mod.

[long saddle]

I mean unless you're seriously underperforming, I rarely see that happen

like ppl dying constantly and barely contributing with any damage

[obtuse dome]

They might just be new tho

[junior linden]

I changed my scoreboard settings so that it only shows up at the end because relying on it to look at my damage mid game was actively making me a worse player instead of using it as a means of self improvement

[obtuse dome]

No reason to crash out anyway

[long saddle]

I did as well but mostly because it covered so much

[junior linden]

That was my other reason

[long saddle]

ye not so much crashing out, but commenting on it

auric is such a great filter to toxic players

it's mostly just positive or quiet in EU

[deft stump]

Worst part, it was in lower diffs. So he was just screaming at newbies and I'm just there to slack heresy.

[obtuse dome]

I dont get how people are so angry if someone else dies

[junior linden]

Anyone doing that isn't worth playing with

[obtuse dome]

Like its not even you

[long saddle]

that's the biggest reason I don't touch lower difficulties

[candid temple]

I use all of those things, because it's all not banned by devs and allowed.

[long saddle]

you both get toxic tryhards and ppl that the toxic tryhards yell at

[junior linden]

People like that tend to stay in the lower diffs because they're dogshit anyways

[long saddle]

and I need the auric density to enjoy the game

[obtuse dome]

We allready talked about this

[candid temple]

Yeah, nothing's changed since then.

[deft stump]

And then you get to solo cos they died arguing.

[analog verge]

still isnt just qol

[junior linden]

Yeah I was wrong I get it

[candid temple]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[long saddle]

only thing I would consider getting in terms of awareness mods is the one to let you know whenever you get sneak crushers/maulers

[acoustic jacinth]

Fatshark is totally aware of all those mods right? Because they can totally filter through tens of thousands of the like, right?

[candid temple]

"tens of thousands"

delusional

[long saddle]

there's not that many mods

and the popular ones are all known

[acoustic jacinth]

People have archives of older ones

Many such players

[long saddle]

if they still work

[candid temple]

[deft stump]

I know. Seen it before with 'speedrunning' loner zealots on malice.

[foggy smelt]

TBH, in Path of Exile, GGG Studio implements "brand new, long waited QoL" that are implementations of what is available to people using hacks since 2 years already...

[analog verge]

use whatever mods you like but third person ones always felt weird

[obtuse dome]

Obese fish just too lazy to deal with it.

[analog verge]

it looks so off

[acoustic jacinth]

Mod compatibility is not difficult

[deft stump]

They now just take TDR or zealous but no diff.

[candid temple]

third person is a handicap

but looks fun

[long saddle]

the game is so well optimized for first person play tho

[analog verge]

admittedly im biased against third person but i feel like. id just play a different game for it

[long saddle]

you're missing out on the cool stuff imo

[junior linden]

I gotta try third person it seems fun yeah

[candid temple]

or you know, like someone from the studio said, that they'd rather have 100 cheaters and 1 person using it for legitimate accessibility needs.

[obtuse dome]

[junior linden]

I need this shit, like I'm borderline legally deaf

[obtuse dome]

Thats comcerning

[obtuse dome]

I get it thats ok

[deft stump]

Cheaters are just going to cheat anyway. Is the same with piracy.

[obtuse dome]

Most people arent tho

[analog verge]

there's not exactly a way to tell that

not in a way that wouldnt impact people with disabilities

[candid temple]

and?

[analog verge]

that said if you recommend one of those mods to me, a completely healthy person, just kill me now because clearly ive skill issued harder than ever before

[obtuse dome]

These are little stinky cheaters

And they know it

[candid temple]

If it's an option that allows a deaf person to play, why should it be only limited to deaf people?

[obtuse dome]

Cause they need it and you dont

[acoustic jacinth]

Because it's made for deaf people?

Why don't we allow anyone to park in disabled spots

[candid temple]

Idiotic comparison.

[obtuse dome]

Like u dont drive around in a wheelchair just cause u feel like it

[deft stump]

I would rather it be refined and baseline so console gets it as well.

[candid temple]

A better one would be wheelchair ramps.

that anyone can use.

[analog verge]

watching streamers play darktide with every warning system possible is just something else

its like watching a completely different game

[deft stump]

Less cheaty feel for those on consoles.

[obtuse dome]

Truly

[analog verge]

i feel like im going blind

[candid temple]

Have you tried having adhd?

[analog verge]

im about 70% sure i do have it but who has time to get that checked

[deft stump]

I am basically blind without glasses. 1750 / 1800 degrees for my lenses.

[wooden sand]

Nerd

[analog verge]

goddamn

i think mine are like 200

[candid temple]

using glasses? smh, stop using accessibility option and just play blind

[analog verge]

some of the mods i see people use make seeing even harder

[candid temple]

I bet there will be people who will cry about beyond human visual spectrum optics, whenever we get cybernetic eyes in real life

[analog verge]

right now ive only got barrel mod so i can lie to my friends about who blew up the barrel

[deft stump]

Joke is, I have colour issues as well. The moment an filter overlay shows up... Yay, one colour screen.

[candid temple]

Or direct neural interface whenever tech gets there

"noooo, using DNI is cheating, you have to use controller/mouse&keyboard"

[deft stump]

Final wound is a death sentence basically. I see cream and nothing else if not highlighted.

[analog verge]

ugh

[novel yoke]

Man I know that pain whenever I get to one wound...

[analog verge]

this is why zealot chat is the best

[novel yoke]

No mod to remove it either, I searched

[long saddle]

can you disable the bw one wound effect?

[candid temple]

I think if you asked in modding discord, someone would maybe make it.

[long saddle]

ok you searched

[novel yoke]

There was a mod that ppl said it does

But it doesn't work

Never got updated unfortunately

[long saddle]

you get it rarely anyway

[novel yoke]

[deft stump]

A god send when it happens.

[candid temple]

hmm

[deft stump]

I am not blind? While trying to clutch? Hooray.

Thanks bugs.

[analog verge]

is that when you go down and somehow still have a sliver of health in the second wound

[tulip kettle]

just to be clear, the mods available through vortex for darktide are the equivalent of sanctioned mods from Wh2

fatshark does actively police mods and removes those that arent allowed

there are also private communities that exist with literal cheats in

these are 2 seperate things, and the option is available directly in the client to report cheaters

[analog verge]

i dont think ive ever seen a real cheater in darktide

[tulip kettle]

i saw one the other day

[analog verge]

a knife zealot who clipped through objective doors, yes

[deft stump]

I have seen aimbots.

[analog verge]

actually there was one aimbot yeah

it wasnt really...

very useful

[junior linden]

I see psyker players all the time wdym

[deft stump]

This is just Darktide.

[tulip kettle]

thats not even a mod homie

its "just" bug abuse

[analog verge]

yeah thats why im not counting it as a real cheater

but he both contributed nothing and had to die so we could progress

[tulip kettle]

i have seen 2 cheaters ever, once about a month after the game released, and one about 48 hours ago

[deft stump]

Idiot slid through the group up doors then. You never do that unless soloing.

[tulip kettle]

i mean you can, you just need the rest of your team to die on purpose after you do it

[candid temple]

hmm

[tulip kettle]

actual cheating is tiny penis behaviour. using mods is literally sanctioned by fatshark so basically, go cry about it.

[candid temple]

hmm

[analog verge]

im sure it was a lot more effort manually sanctioning mods for VT

[candid temple]

You tried all the settings in ? https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/17?tab=posts

[tulip kettle]

no... they do the same thing now

they review every mod on nexus and get unsanctioned ones removed

and often patch the game itself to make them not work anymore

[novel yoke]

That was the mod I was referring to, but no I didn't try to disable every single one

[patent steeple]

don't you just hate speedrunner zealots in QP especially?

I mean, they just trigger all the bosses, and hordes, and don't care about the team in a game where people are at least intended to stick together and fight close to each other like a team would...

[candid temple]

idk, it seems in the modding discord they think that mod works fine

[novel yoke]

I'll try every toggle when I get the time to today then

[candid temple]

let me check

[deft stump]

I still think Skitarius is more cheaty. If you seen ppl solo kill a boss in seconds abusing qqstab.

[tulip kettle]

its not a cheat in any way

and anybody with a modern gaming mouse can do the same thing with their inbuilt mouse software

its literally just a mouse macro in a darktide wrapper

[candid temple]

that's not a skitarius issue, that's a qq cancel issue

fatshark could easily solve that

[deft stump]

It is, you do it an entire mission as your only attack. Frame perfect consistently.

[novel yoke]

It's technically not a cheat but it does bypass learning to do it manually

[tulip kettle]

you can do the same with any gaming mouse

[analog verge]

if its near impossible without external tools im pretty sure its not intended

[tulip kettle]

or autohotkey

[candid temple]

they in fact, did nerf it when bardin had a infinite attack with it in vt2

[deft stump]

Not as good with a macro.

[candid temple]

very close

[deft stump]

Timing is off if you lag.

[tulip kettle]

it is indeed because thats all skitarius is doing

[candid temple]

at least we did it fine with macro in vt2

[tulip kettle]

its just sending inputs

the same as a macro does

[patent steeple]

my mouse has only two buttons on the side of it, that I have bound to weapon special and jump respectively...

[deft stump]

But Skitarius basically ensures it frame perfect, never skipping.

[tulip kettle]

same

[tulip kettle]

incorrect

[junior linden]

I only use skitarius for making semi auto weapons full auto and for stuff like light spam on knife so I don't get carpal tunnel again

[tulip kettle]

the last 3 versions of skitarius are literally broken for a number of weapons

[long saddle]

I have special and automelee bound to my mouse

[analog verge]

accept the carpal tunnel damnit

destroy your hands

destroy your life

[tulip kettle]

and whichever make your mouse is, download the software for it

like, if its razer download synapse

and it does the exact same thing

its literally just a macro

[analog verge]

that sounds like an enormous pain in the ass to go through to avoid learning

[deft stump]

There is basically full auto, it's more an autoclicker at max firerate. Some say cheating since most can't click as fast and as consistently as it but...

[tulip kettle]

you know like, 20 years ago, people used to bind shoot to their scroll wheel

[candid temple]

sounds like an accessibility issue if people can't click fast enough

[novel yoke]

Full auto mod gotta be base game at this point

[candid temple]

and yeah, scrollwheel with g502 was

[patent steeple]

idr which company's logo my mouse has, but I think it might be Logitech's...?

[long saddle]

i'll never call carpal tunnel avoidance cheating

[analog verge]

sounds like you werent intended to click that fast

[deft stump]

How to empty your smg instantly.

[tulip kettle]

yeah exactly so download their software and it will have macro set ups in it

[analog verge]

and that consistently

[kind jay]

this is what youre looking for if youre trying to disable the yellow filter thing

[candid temple]

dev that wants me to click every single attack, can fuck right off 😄

[patent steeple]

nah, don't care much about macros...

[tulip kettle]

which is fine

[novel yoke]

I thought so too when I got it but no dice

[tulip kettle]

you dont have to

but they arent cheating

[junior linden]

Then why is the fire rate that fast on a semi auto weapon

[kind jay]

ah ok, thats weird. just fatshark things i guess

[tulip kettle]

exactly this, plenty of games, including this one, limit the fire rates on weapons

[analog verge]

because game devs dont plan for people using autoclickers

[tulip kettle]

so if you are just sending inputs at the max fire rate, what exactly is the issue

yes, they specifically do

[deft stump]

Semi autos just need much lower RoFs caps then.

[tulip kettle]

thats fine

[analog verge]

id be good with that

[novel yoke]

They do but it bugs out in half the games

[tulip kettle]

thats an opinion

[novel yoke]

Deep rock galactic had that issue for exactly one version

[candid temple]

critical health overlay can be removed for sure

[patent steeple]

funny thing is, my mouse has a button near the scrollwheel, which you would assume relates to the scrollwheel somehow, but nope!

it changes a built-in multiplier for mouse sensitivity.

[tulip kettle]

but the devs have set the fire rates and shooting the weapon at its intended fire rate is in no way cheating

[novel yoke]

Did you only select removing the last wound overlay?

[tulip kettle]

same, it changes the dpi setting, and its very useful if you use your pc for multiple things

[candid temple]

you can change that with logitech

[analog verge]

thats pretty normal i think

[candid temple]

I did this

[analog verge]

i have a second button on this mouse that makes scrolling the wheel smooth

feels really weird

[tulip kettle]

also same and i hate accidently pressing that button

[deft stump]

There might be 2. But is usually just DPI. In the 502 series, that just unlocks the funni scrollwheel.

[novel yoke]

I definitely gotta try when I get back home then

[analog verge]

its so... fluid, and its gross

[patent steeple]

me too.

[long saddle]

ye I have the same on my razer

[candid temple]

I miss that from g502, it was great for certain things.

[analog verge]

maybe if i ever play slayer again ill mess with it for that

[candid temple]

but ultralight mice don't have fancy tricks like that

[tulip kettle]

but this is the point. there is nothing cheating about playing the game within the intended limits of the developer using mods they have explicitly allowed

[long saddle]

I don't think I ever use the scroll

[junior linden]

I need a new mouse, my deathadder I got 11 years ago for Christmas is on its last legs

[deft stump]

Isn't it light enough without the weights?

[candid temple]

No, even the wireless g502 x lightspeed is a 102g brick

my current mouse is 46g

[deft stump]

I feel it to be too light even with the weights.

[tulip kettle]

heavy mouse good and comfy

light mouse feels cheap and flimsy

[analog verge]

ive never thought about it before but my mouse is way too light right now

[deft stump]

But I only use it for normal PC use and picross/nonograms anyway.

[candid temple]

i went from g502 -> superlight (63g) -> mchose l7 (46g) and every time I was blown away how much better a lighter mouse feels for me.

[deft stump]

I guess is taste.

I hate how mouses are getting smaller and lighter.

[candid temple]

and grip type as well

[tulip kettle]

erm, using a lighter mouse because it makes things easier and more accessible for you is cheating, actually 🤓

[deft stump]

It is, cheats for richer ppl.

Same for better hardware.

[long saddle]

use one with a mouseball

[candid temple]

There's actually plenty of options for larger mice too

[long saddle]

no laser mouse

[analog verge]

when i move my mouse it should scrape away parts of my mousepad

[deft stump]

What mouse pad?

[candid temple]

I got a glasspad, I'd be very worried if that happened

[deft stump]

Real gamers play direct on table, right?

[analog verge]

i just use my thigh

[candid temple]

cardboard

[patent steeple]

erm, actually mouse in computer terms is an acronym for Manually Operated User Select Equipment, so mouses is more correct than mice. (this is legit just a nonsensical joke I heard once)

[tulip kettle]

i prefer meeses

[deft stump]

Not as much. The avg feels too small now. And going from that meant prices goes up. Only had the g502 hero cos they were on a 1 for 1 offer at like $65.

So 2 for $65.

[candid temple]

nah, chinese are cutting the prices at cutthroat pace

[tulip kettle]

and the superior control system is eye tracking with left click being winking with your left eye and right click winking with your right eye

[candid temple]

I paid 52€ for mchose l7 ultra and it's legit better than a superlight imho

and they have clones for basically any mouse shape you want

with the best switches/sensors on the market

just don't work in the defense sector of your country

[deft stump]

Oh yeah, is like cables and such. GL selling a high speed cable at $35 when the Chinese sells an equiv at $2.

[candid temple]

if you do, probably better to get something from elsewhere (that is also using chinese components inside )

[deft stump]

If you don't buy bulk.

[candid temple]

it's honestly a great time to be buying consumer electronics

[deft stump]

Except GPUs.

[candid temple]

except gpus

[junior linden]

May almighty God strike down Nvidia

[candid temple]

is ok, 5070 ti super will bring lots of vram at affordable price!

or maybe even 5080 super for 999

[deft stump]

I'm not kidding when I say my GPU costs more than everything else combined.

Even monitor.

[candid temple]

Well...

if I had waited a little, my monitor would be cheaper than my gpu

but I got it a few months after it released, instead of 6-12 months

so it still had new hardware premium price

but it is a bit painful to have the cost of a used car on your desk...

[deft stump]

Cheapest AoC model with 144hz.

[marble crater]

Same, because I got everything except the GPU for free

[deft stump]

Naw. If it was a used car, I would have extremely high end pc easily.

Cars in SG is hilariously ex.

If you had like $200k for a PC.

[fading patrol]

Ram says hi

[deft stump]

RAM sticks aren't that bad.

[fading patrol]

Not as expensive as gpu
But % wise shits been crazy

[deft stump]

Considering GPU and requirements.

[fading patrol]

There goes my dream to have ddr5 mobo

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/xbox-one-controller-dinner-controllers-xbox-gif-16796250

[candid temple]

eh, 32gb ddr5 is like 125€ for 5600 corsair vengeance cl36?

[deft stump]

Doesn't matter when my board only likes 2667 hz ram.

[cosmic sigil]

I paid 105 for 32 gb cl28 6000

[deft stump]

I can't even get the 3600hz from my sticks.

[candid temple]

eh cl32 6000 is like 140

[cosmic sigil]

where do you live?

[deft stump]

Motherboard says, no, they run at 2667.

[candid temple]

looking at eu prices

on geizhals

[cosmic sigil]

I bought it on amazon

[candid temple]

well for ddr4, you may need have to use xmp/expo or manually up the voltage etc

it won't just run at stock voltage and setting it to 3600

[fading patrol]

Price hike by 50% here

Not counting the mobo and cpu
Gonna stick to ddr4 for another year or two

[deft stump]

I feel you get things cheaper... cos that was how much 16x2 set 3600hz RAM costs.

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[deft stump]

Pretty sure DDR4 as well.

[deft stump]

XMP causes PC to not boot.

Like, it gets to bios but no further.

[cosmic sigil]

Ok my sticks are currently unavailable and prices are soaring sky high

I am glad I build my computer in september...

[weary crane]

Yeah

Darktide runs awful with low ram speed

Must enable xmp or get ddr5

[cosmic sigil]

Darktide runs awful

fixed

[weary crane]

Well it's playable with both DLSS and frame gen for me

(the game literally came with my GPU)

[cosmic sigil]

I should not have to use fsr with a 7800 x3d and a 9070 xt :/

for 1440p gaming

[weary crane]

Not even native 1440 BC it's upscaled lol

[cosmic sigil]

yeah

[deft stump]

It's not playable then. My PC hates DLSS and frame gen.

I actually get better FPS with it off.

It's like 7-120 fps in match vs 49-70 fps.

Bonus, no more box of boom stutters.

[cosmic sigil]

i'd rather have 49-70

[deft stump]

DLSS vs Non-DLSS.

The first is with DLSS.

[cosmic sigil]

mfg

[deft stump]

Lows are crazy but it also has higher max.

[fading patrol]

Turn off those ragdolls
Decals
Particles

[deft stump]

And if an oggy throws a box, I stutter to hell with DLSS.

[weary crane]

Games running below 144 FPS it unacceptable in 2025

[deft stump]

They are all off. All CPU settings are off or low.

[fading patrol]

The lowest setting for all 4? You cant turn them off
Well without mods
Or get the ps1 graphic settings

[deft stump]

Why low.

Unless .ini edit works.

[cosmic sigil]

with rt off, everything at high (not extreme), fsr4 quality... i am around 85/90 fps

but the dips are around 65 or 70

[deft stump]

And yes, raytrace is obviously off.

[weary crane]

I'm medium graphics, all CPU stuff lowest, DLSS and frame gen on, and I thankfully get a stable 165

[deft stump]

I don't care if a 3060 ti can do it, off.

Not worth the fps.

[candid temple]

without dlss, I get like 125 fps in meatgrinder, with dlss ultra perf, 200'ish

pain of 7680x2160

[deft stump]

1920x1080

[cosmic sigil]

what is your monitor?

[deft stump]

So, I'm pretty sure it's already on bare min and trying to get stable 60.

I even turned off portraits due to being sure they are just freezeframed models.

[weary crane]

Does anyone even have raytracing turned on

[cosmic sigil]

I tried it once

[deft stump]

Maybe the rich ppl.

[cosmic sigil]

i was around 40 fps...

:"(

[weary crane]

Need multiple 5090s to run darktide maxed out

[cosmic sigil]

with dips so low it was unplayable

[quartz barn]

So basically karien plays with 200+ ping and the karien tm settings preset and is still better than everyone here

[fading patrol]

Its a slider bar on the bottom of graphic settings
If you cpu is bad enough raising those up will maje them chokes harder

[deft stump]

300+. 280 US West lul.

[cosmic sigil]

It is The Carry Hen

[deft stump]

Yes, they are all on the left side.

[candid temple]

rt reflections + rtx globa illumination takes me from 125fps -> 50

I guess if I went to 4k, it'd be around like 90-100, so playable

[candid temple]

but I don't care about graphics

[quartz barn]

Ill need to try the all minimum settings setup and see if i can improve more i guess

[deft stump]

It makes the game perma box of boom on DLSS for me.

Yay, sub 1 fps.

[fading patrol]

Amen

[cosmic sigil]

I remember a few months ago when I played for the first time with 3 rumblergryns

my laptop was crying

[candid temple]

with ultra-perf dlss, it's actually not too bad ~130

[deft stump]

Turn off DLSS and try boxes.

IDK, but it fixed it for me.

[weary crane]

https://youtu.be/4IM50jgiBoA

[candid temple]

but I don't think it is worth the fps loss

[cosmic sigil]

that is basically what happened here

[deft stump]

Fun low fps game, I see.

Oh, btw, I wasn't including boxes in the DLSS avg fps.

Cos that will drop it below 1 fps.

Think 1 sec pauses every explosion.

Is now a 10-16fps loss instead lul.

[weary crane]

Bro plays on a slideshow

[deft stump]

FS needs to optimise explosions.

[weary crane]

I think they did in one of the patches

All I want Fatshark to do is remove the critical peril limit on KF thus fixing the bug

[deft stump]

Not enough though, DLSS still means sub 1 fps.

[weary crane]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/remove-kinetic-flayer-critical-peril-restriction/114138

[candid temple]

have you tried fsr though?

before 5000 series, I was using fsr in darktide, since it ran better for me

or even xess might work

too much zoom?

[deft stump]

I tried all combos. Off still best.

Is same in Cyberpunk.

Was why I tried it in DT tbh.

[candid temple]

time to get 5000 series card

you don't need two kidneys, right?

[deft stump]

No budget.

Is why I'm still stuck with a ninth gen i7.

Because need a new motherboard as well.

Basically can't cough up $3.8k for a new pc.

[weary crane]

I don't understand these gunner breakpoints, I added +10% elite damage aura but it still doesn't 1 shot sometimes

[jovial juniper]

Well, it's psyker

💀

[buoyant maple]

Dreg gunner 2100 unarmored
Scab gunner 2550 flak
For havoc 40

These are pretty tough 1 shot breakpoints to meet

[weary crane]

With EP BB I can do it, but I need max stacks of perfect timing

[buoyant maple]

What are u hitting them with

[weary crane]

But that makes no sense since it's only 15% dmg

[weary crane]

Brain burst

With EP

[patent steeple]

doesn't BB have better base armour damage than assail anyways?

[weary crane]

I have warp rider, gaze damage, 10% elite damage aura

But with/without the aura doesn't seem to make a differenfe

I always need max stacks of perfect timing

[royal totem]

It blows my mind gunners survive brain burst. I mean...you just blew up their brain come on....

[buoyant maple]

What’s base damage on weakspot hit for BR

I forgot

[royal totem]

I get ogryns cuz like so stupid they no need brains

[analog verge]

crushers take a couple because they're so small you keep missing

[buoyant maple]

With no damage bonus effects

[analog verge]

way better

[deft stump]

There is a known criminal with like half a brain.

Guy lost the front half of his brain.

[royal totem]

Hah?????

[deft stump]

Yep. Don't remember name, but you can look it up.

[deft stump]

Googled, Carlos Rodriguez.

Career criminal. Lost a chunk of his brain due to intoxication car crash or so.

So basically, gunners be like him.

[royal totem]

Damn

So gunner dumb

[deft stump]

Or don't need half brain to 'live'.

[marble crater]

Karien graduated from flaming players to flaming NPCs now

[quartz barn]

I mean

[royal totem]

Karien flames me when i play with them 😛

[quartz barn]

Pubs arent that far from npcs

• only having half a brain is a good excuse

[pale dock]

They do their best

[royal totem]

i'm just going to say like

you're a pub to somebody else

[weary crane]

@buoyant maple this is havoc 40

and these ones fail:

Kinetic presence doesn't seem to make a difference, so I must be missing like 5% damage

it's so scuffed

[buoyant maple]

U don’t gotta do it in live game

Just go brain rupture scab ragers in damn/auric meat grinder

They have 2500 hp flak

If u can’t reach their 1 shot then ur not getting scab gunner 1 shot in h40

[buoyant maple]

Check what the damage is at having no damage buffs

I can prob calculate it for u

[deft stump]

I DO NAWT. STOP LYING.

[weary crane]

@buoyant maple this is with 0 buffs

on auric

[buoyant maple]

By 0 buffs I mean like

No talents taken post brain rupture

[weary crane]

yeah theres no damage talents

[buoyant maple]

Did u take the 10% ranged damage talent on bottom left

[weary crane]

nope

no warp rider either

[buoyant maple]

Cool so 1350 vs flak on weakspot at base

U need around +89% damage bonus to reach scab gunner 1 tap in havoc

EP +50%
Perfect timing +15%
Elite damage aura +10%
This gets to ~2362 in 1 hit

Which means u need damage bonus from warp rider

[weary crane]

What level?

I also have at least 10% from gaze

[buoyant maple]

You need 14% extra damage from whatever source available

Assuming all of the previous are active

[buoyant maple]

These 3 combined is 75% damage bonus for BR vs elite

You need 89% damage bonus

[weary crane]

I'm like

A few percent damage away most of the time

I would have to take the 10% ranged boost and aura to make it semi reliable

[pale dock]

Is melee psyker still viable in high havoc?

[deft stump]

Chaos does it if Syllo is playing burga at times. If you good enough, I guess?

[pine shore]

Still?

He only ever got buffs

And buffs

and more buffs

[weary crane]

I was excited when the fixed the damage buff multiplier problem with BB in the update

But it seems they've buffed gunner HP just enough to make it redundant

[quartz barn]

Ye this is why you barely see meleeker in havoc

[unkempt hare]

Melee/ gun on psyker is so very fun partially because it's so risky

[quartz barn]

Most people that cant reliably clear just cry about meta all the time

Risky for them too, so a no go

Bubble isnt the only thing either

[deft stump]

Bubble knight exists.

[quartz barn]

Yes but then you get flamed because no purg

[deft stump]

Be awful and take inferno along. Pray assail is enough for specials. XD

[quartz barn]

Tbf i dont even mind running meta when the team is competent

[deft stump]

I thought that's when you meme?

[quartz barn]

But its wack when you do carries at h20 and you just sit in the lobby

Nah ingame i just meme by soloing, aka running ahead and abandoning the team

Granted i clear everything

Gunker too op

[dull scroll]

https://youtu.be/J_qOdFcddJY

https://tenor.com/view/burning-hell-muahaha-evil-laugh-gif-10739654

last reset I only had a scoreboard, this time I got it on tape

[candid temple]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-cool-gandalf-frodo-gif-17493734

Hide it well!

more videos like that and inferno nerf will come

[dull scroll]

https://youtu.be/XkI5nby_1Dk

it aren't the staff lol

[zinc phoenix]

I just do it anyway and ignore them. Either they all leave or I get to play

[dull scroll]

although it does help

[hollow halo]

I'm sure obese megalodon has it on the docket but also its been years since launch waiting for psyker meta, time to eat good while we still can

[dull scroll]

biggest damage contributor comes from cooking elite blobs, and that's from Venting Shrike plus PC

inferno or no

[candid temple]

I mean 4.3 in 42 minutes, vs 3mil in 57?

[dull scroll]

true, it does help

[candid temple]

• it always depends on how much the director decides to feed the warp

[candid temple]

what mod do you use for the dot stacks on mob like that?

[dull scroll]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137

make sure to turn off text description in mod options and use just color, or the visual pollution will blot out the sky

[summer prairie]

you can edit the localization file to shorten them to

[summer prairie]

had a regular dh spawn on top of a ritual dh in silo

[royal totem]

Terrible

[raw garnet]

Do you have a voidblast one

[dull scroll]

Not yet 😏

[raw garnet]

It's time to make the circles explode

[cosmic cobalt]

what the mod that show voidblast radius again

epicenter

[summer prairie]

trauma outlines

Okay, I think rituals silo + darkness (for max dh spawns) is a skip

[jovial juniper]

Another one filtered by the best map in the game

[weary crane]

I have to lose seers presence and anticipation to 1 shot gunners but I think it's worth it

[marsh badger]

I find there's some games w/ EP-BB where I 1 shot gunners and some games where I don't, same loadout

I was thinking it was teammate aura

[cosmic cobalt]

man trauma outlines make the thing feel way better

[verbal thistle]

Yeah it's really good for people who don't understand its range. A good practice tool, since trauma is the weirdest to play staff imo

[cosmic cobalt]

i find trauma pretty easy to use but it feel like ass and feel like im not doing shit for damage

but the mod make it feel way better

rager erasure

[weary crane]

It's due to buffs being active

There's a fine line to hit breakpoint

[zealous wing]

idk why but i find it funny that the community is kinda ping-ponging the event every day.

more ammo one day, psyker buffs the next, then back to more ammo

i heavily doubt its intentional, its probably due to people with the buff enjoying it more instead of collecting/destroying to keep it going more days

[marble crater]

I simply destroy all the time, because it's easier to do

[zealous wing]

i simply rebound destroy to E

im not going out of my way to play the event, so if i QP in i have a way to contribute at least a few

fuckin weird you console players cant rebind such things, dumb

[marble crater]

It's very much a fatshark thing, because we can in a lot of other games with no issue

[zealous wing]

yup

i dont even get why they chose presets only

[marble crater]

We can be lucky to have different button layouts, though the best one is not the default for some reason

[zealous wing]

they were willing to give you options for the event, btw, but not stims vs packs 😭

[marble crater]

Gamesir controller to the rescue though, can rebind whatever I want, downside is that switching to the right in menus for me is now up on the d-pad

[zealous wing]

rough

does this mean you no longer use a pack when trying to stim?

[marble crater]

Stim and pack are both left on the d-pad, need to cycle through them

Still throw down pack when trying to stim when inputs get eaten

[zealous wing]

f

speaking of event i just got thrown in the very start

😭

[marble crater]

Even changing the order would already be an improvement, make it go stim -> pack instead

God knows you use more stims than packs every mission and that stims are more time sensitive

[cosmic cobalt]

certified gloriana moment

[bleak maple]

Psykers, I'm doing a weird melee build and would like to know if I'm clowning on myself by using a useless node or smthin

[zealous wing]

well....

while theres words to use for smite, i presume you're having fun with charged strikes

however

[marble crater]

There are example builds for melee psyker in the pinned bonanza

[zealous wing]

warp siphon is a bad idea for meleeker

well not BAD but not ideal

DD will benefit a meleeker / gunker more

[modest perch]

no mettle is certainly ... a choice ...

[zealous wing]

assail is also usually the gunker/meleeker blitz of choice, contollable refilling bullets are always a plus

indeed

no warp unbound though on a smite using build is at least a good sign

however people you play with wont know that

theres a bad perma-smite build going around like a cancer, using smite and scriers gaze

as for the sword, i would suggest putting unstable power on it instead of precog

[bleak maple]

I used to be a smyker when I first started, honestly the most boring way I've played psyker

[zealous wing]

otherwise its alright. warp resist is usually the dump but, you have KD and deflector so its functional

good

youve come to the light

[bleak maple]

I've been playing this in aurics but during hoard downtime toughness can get a little stretched

[zealous wing]

mettle can help with that, DD i believe also does? i'd have to check all the details.

theres a ton of builds and build templates in the bonanza, and you can search within using the table of contents, find a melee or gun using build, they're pretty similar but maybe will give you the vibe youre after

[ripe obsidian]

Hast thou lookèd at the pinnèd build guide?

[tulip kettle]

verily, tis a font of knowledge

[zealous wing]

six needs to change his nickname to "psyker build list in pins"

[bleak maple]

I'll poke around the builds but I haven't used DD for ages since it used to be questionable in terms of reliability

[zealous wing]

its better now

another event mission right after the last one

heresy might be cursed

😭

damnation next i guess i just dont wanna do the event

fatshark you gave us campaign QP opt out give us event opt out

[strong gulch]

new event?

[zealous wing]

the ration one

[strong gulch]

oh gotcha

[marble crater]

It's what you deserve for playing heresy and damnation

[zealous wing]

if i go to auric i guarentee ill get event there too

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah probably

Path did that for a while. Maybe still does.

[marble crater]

And then you change your name back to Six and people who come here after that won't know again

[strong gulch]

You will still need to tell people to check the pins.

[marble crater]

Checking pins before asking should be the standard

[strong gulch]

Ye. Should be.

[prime elk]

Hey does anyone have a good inferno build?

I just started

I’m trying to get to havoc 40

[strong gulch]

Seems like a lot of people are newer to discord or maybe use small personal servers.

[marble crater]

Is it ethical to block Sirosky?

[prime elk]

See this is why this game is dying

Noobs being treated like this

Toxic community

😤

[marble crater]

[prime elk]

Yall a bunch of tox bombers

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/toxic-love-hexxus-oil-smoke-smog-gif-18093449

[zealous wing]

the number of times i've had to say i am not named after that dude is not 0

though it did make me watch fern gully so who's really winning

[strong gulch]

Hexis win

[marble crater]

In German his name is apparently Hexxor

[zealous wing]

in english its Hexxus iirc

[strong gulch]

Hexxor sounds a like a robotic swap witch.

[marble crater]

[zealous wing]

inching ever closer

[marble crater]

Another week and you are finished

[zealous wing]

i wish

though i am sure if i actually did focus on the game rather than tab out every 5 minutes in a mission, and take 20-30 minute discord breaks between missions it actually WOULD be done in a week

[strong gulch]

Inferno in havoc speed runs that

shoutout to the meleekers

[marble crater]

ADHD is one hell of a drug

[zealous wing]

it really is

but so is the medication, if i ever took it

[marble crater]

Why are you not taking it

[zealous wing]

because i havent taken it in years, and the ones i have still are probably expired, and even if they're not, i have to wait for a new psychiatrist to verify my diagnosis and prescribe new ones / the same ones etc

[marble crater]

That... doesn't really answer the question

[zealous wing]

in all realness though i think the ones i do have are far too strong for me, they make me feel very odd in a way thats hard to describe

like they make it HARDER to focus