psyker-class

[strong gulch]

nexus

Crits apply 2 SB stacks instead of 1 and proc talents like EE and mettle. Plus being at higher peril is generally prefered for other talents.

If you really don't like to peril edge and play bubble, then you may have a case to take PF (penetrating flames) instead.

[thick valve]

whats the EE acronym?

[strong gulch]

Acronyms in pins.

EE = empathic evasion

[tulip kettle]

generally though brittleness on inferno is just stupid

it only works vs crushers

and you will still just tickle them even with max stacks

if you want your fire to dmg crushers take a melee with uncanny and stack it to 5 once the crushers have 15+ stacks of soulblaze

[strong gulch]

DoT maxxing is with melee anyways.

[hearty wolf]

I think it's a lot of fun and it's really strong but

The problem with it is that it doesn't have good mobility

And the better you are, you tend to want a build that can do everything rather than specialise

Which is ironic

(Power sword specialises as murdering everything but it's not easy to clutch with when you've got a monstrosity+ other things on you)

[prime elk]

hey it's good... in a straight line

psword mobility is unironically good if you're just sprinting forward in a straight line

it does get complicated very quickly once things like heretics enter the picture though

[royal totem]

there are a LOT of heretics around atoma though

and we'll never run out

[prime elk]

[royal totem]

one day we'll learn

the only thing on atoma is heretics

even the nobles are heretics

[hallow finch]

An1 got a nice voidblast staff build?

[royal totem]

check the pins

[hallow finch]

The damn doc is hard to read

[royal totem]

i mean......it really depends what voidblast you're running though

[hallow finch]

Wdym

[royal totem]

are you running Voidblast rending or soublaze

shriek or shield

[hallow finch]

Shriek and soulblaze

[royal totem]

lemme fill it out on gameslantern for you

[hallow finch]

Idk it feels slow and has not much dmg

[royal totem]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a043a7be-0cfc-4116-b23d-cef54d6cdde9/trauma-soublaze-shriek?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

i mean it's slower than inferno staff if that's what you're asking

[hallow finch]

No not that, the dude had his staff charge million times faster and had more dmg into elites

[royal totem]

more damage into elites might be rending

and not blaze

[zealous wing]

what does your staff look like currently? screenshot ideal

[hallow finch]

60 warp res,
flak + ranged crit chance
Warp + blaze

[zealous wing]

and its maxxed out?

[hallow finch]

Yup

[zealous wing]

then someone else shouldnt be charging much faster than you at any given point

it charges pretty fast anyway once maxxed with the right stats

[hallow finch]

Warp flurry is a given point

I'm pretty sure they had this and rending

[royal totem]

ah iirc PoTS actually somewhat works with voidblast because of its ADMs something like that

[hallow finch]

Ye none of these acronyms says shit to me

[zealous wing]

pins

[royal totem]

PoTS=penetration of the soul

ADMs i forgot what the A stands for but it's basically how much damage you do to each armor type

[hallow finch]

Armour damage modifier?

[royal totem]

might be that

[tulip kettle]

it is indeed that

but, blazng trauma is nexus and spirit with flak and crit chance

then critmaxxing from your tree and venting flames

and i also think its much nicer to play with ER and solidity

and finally you dont need to bother fully charging it, just do it half way or so usually unless you are directly targeting like, a shotgunner blob with the blast

nemui's posted tree is perfect

[opaque tulip]

Are melee psykers common?

[tulip kettle]

kinda

its pretty good

SG buffs go brrr

[opaque tulip]

Okay so I definitely didn’t stumble into something stupid but effective

[tulip kettle]

no

its basically taking right side stuff like assail and the melee talents near the middle, with scrirs gaze and disrupt destiny

[opaque tulip]

Ye.

[tulip kettle]

then biglysword and a gun that procs lots of crits like recon las

[opaque tulip]

It’s become my literal favorite thing in this game for some weird reason. Coupled with a force greatsword it makes me feel even stronger than a zealot

[tulip kettle]

yeah it should, zealot weakest class

[opaque tulip]

Yeah but I mean survivability wise too. I took nearly every talent that increased damage resistance or allowed me to juggle toughness/peril more efficiently

[tulip kettle]

poking crushers with biglysword and max stacked buffs from DD and SG is so satisfying

i mean you are less surviveable than a zealot just because of until death

but ultimately, simply dont get hit

and JaD has a broken interaction right now where its essentially an additive 25% flat DR always

[opaque tulip]

Speaking of big sword, how the fragging hel do I use the first variant effectively? I get that it’s meant for dealing with elites and specials, but the swing arc on its lights feel awful for dealing with crowds despite what the stats say

[tulip kettle]

do you mean 6 or 8

8 is better for crowds 6 is better for elites, but 99% of players myself included say 6 is just superior

[opaque tulip]

The lower number one. The one with the diagonal arcs and two-hit heavy wombo combo

[tulip kettle]

you simply light - light block cancel

for hordes without armour in them

if you have macros you can light light swap cancel which is even faster

[opaque tulip]

That sounds way too clamplicated for my pea sized brain :3

[tulip kettle]

then take unstable and shred

press light twice

tap block until your hand comes up

rinse repeat

once you killed 10 poxwalkers and filled the bar do the special warp slice to kill the rest

ez

[opaque tulip]

But the diagonal slices make me miss their heads too often

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[opaque tulip]

I mean it is true

But weakpoint kills are vital to my build

Dx

[prime elk]

could use mk8

[opaque tulip]

I do. But I want to git gud with the mk6 as well but for some reason I struggle with it. My brain basically computes it as an entirely different weapon

And not correctly either

[tulip kettle]

first is block cancel second is macro

try making your character taller and putting your crosshair on their heads

note also this is with literally 0 buffs

[opaque tulip]

My gal is max height so I got the first step down

[prime elk]

honestly just light spamming isn't the worst thing ever either

[tulip kettle]

its not but its a definite dps loss

especially when you consider you are likely to have warp splitting active

[prime elk]

yeah it's just up to how much effort you want to put into it

[tulip kettle]

and unstable

[polar flower]

How would I get the worst possible Peril

Like max gain minimum quell

[tulip kettle]

dont take solidity or any of the peril reduction talents

have lowest possible warp res on your weapon

why exactly would you want it

this makes 50% peril on activation so i can rub it twice to go from 0 - 100

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-news-news-news-alert-sml-supermariologan-gif-20828801

rituals is back in the modifier pool

[marble crater]

Yay...

[zealous wing]

it what

WITH ROTTEN ARMOUR!?

that poor soul

[tulip kettle]

i was gonna play it but then he accepted someone that is called "you are currently blocking this player" - i hate that guy so i left

[zealous wing]

lmao

i keep getting stuck in a lobby with an arby i blocked, very weird

dont know their actual name, so dunno why i blocked them, but, since its an arby, probably something like, - actually it mightve been that one arby that downed in the auric mission first area then ragequit but then the bot lived like 70% the way through the mission thing i mentioned before

thats the only arby i distinctly remember, though

i dont even know if i blocked them or not, dont think i did

[white sky]

I blocked one person on darktide and its cause they wandered off by themselves in havoc and started screaming at us when they went down like it was our fault

[marble crater]

Who says that it's an arby you blocked, it could very well be the arby of another class you blocked when they played

[zealous wing]

also true

but they've been arby each time i see them

[proper osprey]

Is that someone’s name or actual a blocked person

[zealous wing]

you cant have spaces, so, theyre blocked

[marble crater]

How do you know it's the same person each time?

[zealous wing]

same arby cosmetics, same dog colour, same dog cosmetic, same stupid mustache

[proper osprey]

I only have keyboard warriors blocked

[proper osprey]

Guh

That’s neat

[marble crater]

Fair enough, guess someone you play with keeps inviting them then

[proper osprey]

I thought you couldn’t play with them

Ah

[zealous wing]

they arent supposed to

and yeah

maybe they're just squadding with people

which, i dont really mind, what are they gonna do, rant at me when i cant see them talking?

doubt they even know i blocked them

however i DO wish i could fuckin make notes on why i blocked someone

there are very few i actually REMEMBER why and their names together

in fact i unblocked one recently, the one who lost his shit when i called him a child, just to see if i'd see him again, but alas, no baiting for me

[candid temple]

would be nice, but ultimately, if they're blocked, you did it for a reason :p

[zealous wing]

ye but different severeties of reasons

[candid temple]

There are no degrees of guilt.

[zealous wing]

some i blocked because of racist comments or such, some i blocked because of really shitty ingame behaviour, some i blocked because of verbal toxicity, etc

[candid temple]

Only Heretics, Mutants and Xenos.

[marble crater]

Including a reason to block/ban someone only makes sense to me if you ban them from somewhere where you might need to justify it to other people.
I blocked them for a reason, why would I go through my list at some point and unblock people because they "only did X"

[zealous wing]

basically i'd want to keep tabs if its someone i think i should warn others about

like if someones constantly micing toxicity, i'd want to further warn people each time i saw the note and remembered

[marble crater]

That might fall under the "don't start a witch hunt" rule, so that's also irrelevant

[graceful arch]

Hello hexis

And sut

[zealous wing]

o/

[marble crater]

Hello and good night

[graceful arch]

Lol good night

It's like 2 am just finished work for the day

[graceful arch]

I have 3 psyker penances locked behind cliff hanger

And then like 10-15 games and I have all psyker penances

[zealous wing]

nice

[candid temple]

well, it would be nice

[fringe harbor]

for flame staff, is there a good indication of when you should stop flaming and starting building uncanny?

I have a mod that lets me see burn stacks so I guess stop when I see crushers at ~33 and start melee? Woudl it be better to start earlier? Or never to maintain the 20% rending on warp

[brittle berry]

i need to avoid gettin hit by elite enemies melee a whole mission for a penance

any build that could help?
im thinkin in going with smite

about the weapons, not sure

[candid temple]

ds4 probably?

[brittle berry]

also it needs to be done in heresy

[candid temple]

heresy or above

[brittle berry]

well yeah, but

lol

not doin it in damnation or auric

[royal totem]

Die at start of mission and have 3 others carry u?

[brittle berry]

the whole match?

[tulip kettle]

you stop at anything above 15

[zealous wing]

honestly, smite is probably a BAD way to go, you'd be better off with a dueling sword to parry ragers, and have mobility to dodge maulers and crushers. its also great for killing them, but, something like the EK stave would be good to hold them in place momentarily, or kill them safely

[tulip kettle]

like this

[zealous wing]

ragers, maulers, and crushers are the only melee elites you really have to worry about. other than that, dont get close to shotgunners, gunners, snipers, etc

[proper osprey]

I don’t take rending on warp

[brittle berry]

yeah build says to go with assail

[zealous wing]

assail is just generally a good blitz for mobile use

BB is harder to use when moving

[brittle berry]

atleast its only elite melees

how bad could it be

[zealous wing]

yup

[proper osprey]

Tbh melee psyker is easy too do it with

[zealous wing]

i got it the first 3 heresy missions i ever survived duo with my spouse, so, its a good way to teach you the basic rule of psyker

[brittle berry]

only means ragers, crushers and shredders?

[proper osprey]

It’s only health damage

[zealous wing]

all elites, dont get hit by them with their melee

[tulip kettle]

and yes, also, PoTS is garbage on inferno and you are wasting a talent point

[brittle berry]

ahh

[zealous wing]

ragers are your BIGGEST worry honestly

[brittle berry]

noo way really?

[proper osprey]

Don’t take health damage by elites

[proper osprey]

I’m 9/10 sure

[brittle berry]

health damage by elite enemies

that way its surprising i didt got it yet

means i suck ass at the game

[zealous wing]

not really

[proper osprey]

It’s not hard

[zealous wing]

you could get got by a sneaky shotgunner

[proper osprey]

Nah you’re not Celine

[zealous wing]

backhits usually mean HP damage anyway

[brittle berry]

keeping distance from all elites makes it slightly harder

[proper osprey]

How are you building your psyker

[brittle berry]

around brain burst and shield

[zealous wing]

if youre a meleeker youre likely to get chipped, if youre a staveker its less likely

[proper osprey]

I’d do vent

One sec

[proper osprey]

I take less damage in melee than staff

[zealous wing]

i said likely

also that just means you need more staff practice

or better teammates, or both

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5cc452-6030-42a4-afe1-2b54e0c4337c/terrible-inferno-build

This is what I do

[brittle berry]

tbh i do good with my build

i just need a different one for this penance

[zealous wing]

or just be hyper-aware of where they all are and what their sound cues are

[brittle berry]

watch a dog or a trapper ruin it

[zealous wing]

those are specialists

but, same idea

[brittle berry]

dope

so neither captains or monstrosities aye?

[zealous wing]

those are monstrosities, so i think not

i also know being dogged or trappered doesnt count as being downed

[brittle berry]

ik that

[zealous wing]

trappers would be the priority lookout, since things will hit you while youre netted

[brittle berry]

also was the penance 3 whole missions? gotta check if i have progress then

[brittle berry]

thats what i meant

[zealous wing]

3 whole missions, i think total, not consecutive

[brittle berry]

but since they dont count?

just not getting surrounded by ragers

[zealous wing]

if a dog gets you it shouldnt count

and yeah

you could bring a devils claw and kinetic deflection to parry things

DS parry is stronger, DS is stronger, but DC parry can be spammed

[royal totem]

Dogs too op

[proper spoke]

They are good boys

I like to pat them

With my devil's claw

It must be relaxing because they always get sleepy after

[royal totem]

...uh...huh....

[brittle berry]

they have fleas

use your inferno staff to help em get rid of em

and brain burst to give em pats pats

[bronze salmon]

gaze smite vs bubble smite, call it

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[patent mango]

probably just playing like repo or something instead

[brittle berry]

in fact, laugh out loud

2 out of 3

[acoustic jacinth]

I just bought that yesterday

Pretty fun, but at least so far

Way more streamlined than lethal company

The mobs ive seen are easy to figure out and juke

[patent mango]

its funny

new update is good too

[acoustic jacinth]

Lethal had me sweating for my dear life

Trying to make profit

[brittle berry]

wish i join a mission near the end

[sturdy reef]

nooooooooooooooooooooo

they brought bakc heinous rituals

[royal totem]

hmmmmm i need some help

[sturdy reef]

ughhhh

[royal totem]

OH NO

LOL

what did they remove?

[sturdy reef]

idk

but it wasnt worth the trade

[royal totem]

thammer noises

hmmmm

rot armor

stims

and healing are all still there

so did they even take out anything?

wait this is just .....ass then

[sturdy reef]

I dont think so

[royal totem]

................................

[sturdy reef]

its w/e

I just hope

the rituals still arent bugged

obese megalodon

[royal totem]

oh i'm 100% sure they still are

this is fatshark we're talking about

[brittle berry]

mutant got me and pushed me into a wave of crushers

lowk deleting this game

atleast got this

[royal totem]

grats 😮

[timber bolt]

Anyone have a melee psyker build?

for big sword

[royal totem]

look in the pins

there's a bunch

[timber bolt]

Thanks, blanked on checking there

[royal totem]

the king of psykers Six graciously wrote a long doc of builds and such

now that rituals is back though, i really don't want to play this game

[narrow herald]

wtf

[sturdy reef]

uhh

lol

[patent mango]

MORE

[narrow herald]

does charged strike even stun anything?

[sturdy reef]

not to my knowledge

[patent mango]

no

[royal totem]

yeah i'm about 60% certain cranial is the one that got out

[patent mango]

so current havoc is even more miserable?

[royal totem]

yes

i'm doing a weekly clear and just playing another game is gonna be my strat

[patent mango]

i hate the rank stuff anyways so i havent bothered in a while

[narrow herald]

am I the only person left that uses shout smyker?

[sturdy reef]

smyker sus

[patent mango]

🈷️ amogus

[royal totem]

i think fatshark just keeps making game worse

[patent mango]

its been steadily getting better except havoc

[royal totem]

and that's a problem

imo

[patent mango]

yeah idk why they cant just keep me at 40 instead of deranking me in what feels like every 5 minutes

[royal totem]

i'm not arguing they should balance everything around havoc because it makes piss poor game when everything is balanced around the hardest difficulty but i think some more thought needs to be given to the hardest game mode

[patent mango]

then the gameplay i've heard is also lame in havoc rn

[royal totem]

i think it's dumb

[narrow herald]

smyker smyker smyker 😈

[royal totem]

honestly like i used to care about fun and engaging gameplay but honestly i don't even care. sure just smite everything and lemme win. idm anymore.

why would i care about "fun gameplay" anymore when fatshark is determined to put buggy ass untested modifiers in

[patent mango]

lock in

[royal totem]

what does lock in actually mean

i like actually don't know

[patent mango]

scriers gaze in real life

[patent jacinth]

Focusing

Or locking your attention in

[royal totem]

yeah don't get why i'm getting told to lock in. lol

speaking of smykers though this havoc 17 have one lul

[rain wren]

Let the pox walkers take care of that

Or barrels you know if you don't say anything no one will know

[zealous wing]

unless they have the mod saying who or what ignited a barrel

[rain wren]

Oops my finger slipped

[zealous wing]

"i didnt see you" works wonders

especially if theres an "im sorry" in there

but, entirely unnecessary

[rain wren]

Unnecessary to apologize?

[zealous wing]

yes

[royal totem]

i was hoping they were actually good 🙁

[rain wren]

Better if their down to teabag them and walk off

[zealous wing]

also not a shit roll

ill just run arby

nah actually i dont think arby is havoc ready

i dunno

[rain wren]

It's fine to run arby in havoc or are you saying you're not comfortable yet?

[zealous wing]

not comfy with the big maul and the exe shotty, i love the shield weapons, havent run them in havoc yet successfully

mainly use zealot or psyker in havoc

ogryn tho i think i could comfortably run

[rain wren]

Shields blocking is best friend try to do perfect block so less stamina

[royal totem]

my arb isn't good enough for havoc

[zealous wing]

ive never actually gotten perfect blocking down

i have no idea what the fuck it means

[fierce crest]

just derank yourself and climb with new class

[rain wren]

You got to time your block right when they are about to hit you and it will stagger most enemies

[zealous wing]

see i know ive done that, especially noticed right today as learning vet with taxe.... i block just in time and i also get staggered

so maybe i DO have it down but when it matters it doesnt do shit

ie, my stamina is low anyway

[rain wren]

Lol yeah hard hits sometimes do that or if you are low on stamina

[zealous wing]

its always the bruisers

[rain wren]

I usually push heavies

[zealous wing]

thats why my stamina is low

[rain wren]

Hmm have you invested in nodes that help with stamina?

[zealous wing]

i dunno, is it the tiny little +1 stamina node or something different

im very unfamiliar with the tree

[rain wren]

Let me look real quick

[austere warren]

Anyone happen to have advice for havoc climbing with psyker? I'm thinking of getting back into it. I already got builds that I've been copying and understanding why they work the way they work and got plenty of picks ready to be used and adjusted for my needs. Mostly wondering about what the flow can feel like.

Also, are havoc levels character locked? Actually never tried learning and I've only done it on my veteran so far.

[zealous wing]

accountwide

soon as any character hits lvl 30, they can run your havoc

[austere warren]

Yeah I got that already. I was struggling with finding reliable havoc queues while also losing patience on top of annoying crashes. Unsure if that improved but I'm thinking if warming up with some auric maelstroms before doing a few run attempts tonight on my own with randoms.

[rain wren]

Retaliatory force helps with block cost is one

[austere warren]

Also if you happen to got an answer for my edited post above, I'd appreciate it @zealous wing . Others answering in good faith welcome as well.

[austere warren]

Which one is that again? I'm still memorizing and understanding the talents in totality for psyker because I'm taking my time with a class I adore.

I've probably used it in builds before

[rain wren]

That's for arbites

[austere warren]

Ah nvm then. Er, well what does it do again?

[rain wren]

Oh that will help Hex with blocking and not draining stamina

[austere warren]

I usually play my classes in order of appearance in the character creator from left to right so arbites getting stocked uo beyond its class weapons is a longer goal I'm being real slow on.

[zealous wing]

i've avoided doing havoc with randoms best i can, trying to have at least one person im familar with there, and most of my havoc climbing has been successful when i was doing bubbleknight or book zealot on h40s or whatever Dom's havocs were at the time, with others, non-randoms

[zealous wing]

oh im talking about vet

arby blocking is goated

[rain wren]

Oh ok

Lol

[zealous wing]

thing is too strong honestly but it does the job

[rain wren]

Um vet I have no word but to avoid too much conflict

[zealous wing]

ye i am aware its not a good melee class comparatively

but i am a melee heavy person

ill brute force it if i have to

[rain wren]

I prefer chainsword or chainaxe as vet

[zealous wing]

im never touching any chain weapon ever again

fucking ever

[rain wren]

Lol

[zealous wing]

the sound of it on carapace is fucking atrocious and i cannot get it out of my head

[rain wren]

They don't get stuck anymore and you can easily pull out of the special

[zealous wing]

i do not care

its BAD

[quiet inlet]

power sword is pretty stronk if you can get the combos down reliably

[zealous wing]

alas the psword kicked my ass even in the psyk so its gonna be a while before i try that fucker in a live game

id run DS but i need hordeclear more than more singletarget damage

[rain wren]

Yes I like power sword it will require stuff like charge push heavy or charge push light or charge heavy light etc depending on mark

[zealous wing]

actually i should test having 2 stamina regen perks on curios to see if it evens taxe combo out

[brittle berry]

done

[zealous wing]

gg

[rain wren]

Hmm if I remember right having 2 will not stack fully for stam regen. Diminished return I believe

[zealous wing]

ye 2 is usually the most you should grab of such a perk

revive speed is another example

the 3rd one is too negligible

the 2nd one is still something

not much but, something

[rain wren]

Lol yeah puny addition on 3rd

[zealous wing]

i usually run revive speed on all my characters anyway, but mightve changed it for psyker, would need to check. when im playing, either im doing fine and just wanna get the fledglings up faster, or im struggling and i need that person unnetted IMMEDIATELY

[rain wren]

Lol net only one second

[zealous wing]

even faster!

i can slide into an unnet and its done by the time i stand up

them changing it to work on unnets, cliffhangers, and rescues fuckin saved that perk

its actually an option now that wil get regular use

[rain wren]

Yeah it was almost pointless before

Then vet with their instant revive ability

[zealous wing]

still not ideal i think

handy as hell when they have it

but i think most prefer to use the point somewhere else

smaller radius is not ideal

[rain wren]

Well if you think about it if everyone is in the coherency area the lack of radius shouldn't be huge of difference

[zealous wing]

this is true, especially with the +50% talent, and the revive only being -33%

[rain wren]

Yep be a win win situation

[zealous wing]

but, i'd have to find a point to sacrifice

[rain wren]

I like how all classes has something to bring to the team

I abuse the hell out of chorus on zealot

[zealous wing]

HAHA

one perk of stam regen was enough

[rain wren]

If you not near me as soon as it is fully recharged you missed out

[zealous wing]

lol

[royal totem]

i just played a round of book zealot

[rain wren]

Good choice

[royal totem]

i should have played infiltrate that round

[zealous wing]

huh

i just noticed

even if i dont hit anything

[royal totem]

ai director was being a dumpster and gave us like 9 bosses

[zealous wing]

the gun still counts a crit

and i spend no ammo

[tulip kettle]

yeah all weapons work like this

you roll for crit when you initiate the attack

the game also differentiates between "attacks" and "successful attacks"

[royal totem]

so guys

in the spirit of "darktide is a perfect game with no bugs"

i had a ritual earlier where the progress bar didn't show up at all

so we had no way of knowing how close it was

[strong gulch]

Rituals back?

[summer prairie]

which modifier is gone

[tulip kettle]

is fun with the new maps in rotation

[strong gulch]

What was switched out?

[verbal thistle]

rotten, purple, stim, parasite was old mods

so one went and added ritual

[tulip kettle]

i think cranial is gone

[summer prairie]

that's rough

[tulip kettle]

i like rituals

[royal totem]

Cranial gone

[tulip kettle]

makes team move forward not sit in the same room for 10 minutes

[strong gulch]

Cant DH get cranial? That'd be funny.

[royal totem]

I hate rituals.

Its buggy

[tulip kettle]

its not that buggy honestly.

even the no bar ritual is the same as the no hp bar boss bug - do dmg to ritualist and the bar usually appears. sure its not 100% foolproof but its fine

and the buggy sand map isnt in rotation rn i dont think

[summer prairie]

power matrix is and it has a buggy one or two

[royal totem]

It didnt appear even after hitting

Excise vault is back btw

For the record it has at least one bugged one

[zealous wing]

honestly i hope the new coming operations map is fun

if we give ennough attention maybe they add to havoc

[royal totem]

i hope so too

but depends time limit and such i suppose

[plucky flax]

Ritual? Noooooo

Bring back 21st

[white sky]

21st feels like such a nothing modifier to me

Might be general weapon preference tho

[patent jacinth]

Shhhhh
Don't tell them, we need at least 1 good modifier

[white sky]

They're not listening to me

[patent jacinth]

Thats what you think

[summer prairie]

rotten rituals healing/stimms oubliette

[white sky]

Ik i asked for rituals back but I meant instead of rotten armor FS

[plucky flax]

Its damage farming for psyker

[white sky]

Fair lmfao

[timber cairn]

Is it just me or are Mr E’s builds 💩

For anyone familiar with that YouTuber

[plucky flax]

I dont watch him so not sure

[white sky]

Isnt Mr. E the reason we have a massive influx of smykers rn?

[plucky flax]

I only watch unsanctionedpsyker

[white sky]

Tbh I do not watch DT YouTube

I think i would enjoy the game less if I did

[timber cairn]

Wait he’s the reason every havoc lobby always has a Psyker before I get there?

[white sky]

I'm not sure

Ik some youtuber was talking about SB Smyker being havoc meta

A couple of weeks ago

[zealous wing]

well it was either mr e or it was tanner

both are always nortoriously bad it seems

ESPECIALLY with psyker stuff

[white sky]

Idk

My psyker take is if you aren't using FGS why even bother

[royal totem]

it was mr. e

i'm still anti-FGS

[zealous wing]

but you like thammer

its the same as thammer but for psyker

[white sky]

I dislike thammer and like fgs lmao

[zealous wing]

they dislike FGS because its slow

[plucky flax]

Fgs is slow but playable

Hammer is just unplayable

[zealous wing]

i like both

[white sky]

Nah ainz get back here

I want whatever insight you were about to provide

[zealous wing]

specifically though i like crucis

[patent jacinth]

Personally I think calling FGS slow is just a sign of 5 dodge brainrot

[zealous wing]

ironhelm is ACTUALLY broken in the bug way to make it unplayable for me

slow attack speed

[white sky]

Tbh no weapon in this game feels abysmally slow to me

[zealous wing]

however the reach and the 10% melee speed boost node help a ton

[white sky]

Like even thammer isn't abject suffering

[zealous wing]

i have one

bolt gun

flamer and boltgun are abysmally slow

if you run a zealot with knives you can speed it up

[royal totem]

maybe one day i'll try recon lasgun on psyker

[zealous wing]

otherwise, youre stuck

[white sky]

Ig id agree with that but its mainly the swap speed

Bolter isnt like

CoD lmg slow to aim

[zealous wing]

and the reload if you arent a veteran

[white sky]

Cant you anim cancel it?

[zealous wing]

i genuinely do NOT understand the love for the bolt gun

[white sky]

Or am I crazy

[white sky]

Its The 40k Gun

[plucky flax]

When ppl say fgs is slow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1363438686225698826/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.04.20_-_09.57.47.03.mp4?ex=6909177a&is=6907c5fa&hm=ed8ecadf89a6ed61e17863c3848e75492262ad53ee3b51de84a5b27d37606317&

[zealous wing]

discord let me fuckin load the video

thank you

[royal totem]

idk i sometimes run bolter on zealot

[zealous wing]

mraco life

fuckin

MACRO

jeesus

[plucky flax]

It can be done manually.

[patent jacinth]

Evil and nefarious QQ canceling

[plucky flax]

I did a full havoc round with no mod no macro.

It's hard and your fingers get tired.

But it's doable.

[patent jacinth]

I have beef with QQ that runs back to VT2

[royal totem]

i don't like my fingers being tired 🙁

[weary idol]

thank god you don't actually have to do it this fast for it to still be better

[cosmic cobalt]

qq canceling fan when connection

[weary idol]

adding a slight delay (and maybe throwing an assail shard) still works and is much easier on the hands

[plucky flax]

Yeah assails weave is cool

[royal totem]

how did you get it that fast? just tap m1 rapidly or?

[zealous wing]

swap light light loop

[brazen warren]

Swapping weapons then doing the attacks is what is removing the down time, but you have to swap to your secondary and back so fast it doesnt show on screen. Usually people use macros to do this kind of thing consistently, but it can be done manually with enough practice.

[ripe obsidian]

A blue stim, pox-gassed rager just 1v3'd my team

holy moly

[rain wren]

Sounds nasty

[royal totem]

disgusting

[cosmic cobalt]

skill issue

[plucky flax]

Sounds normal.

[candid temple]

now try power sword

[plucky flax]

I can play power sword I just don't like it cos bad dodges.

Beside I only play vet in havoc these days so I'll just use ds4 and crutch.

[candid temple]

I mean in terms of speed, powersword is really nasty, especially if you macro the chain

[plucky flax]

Fgs best melee weapon in game 🗣️

Fgs mk6 to be exact. Mk8 is doodoo

[candid temple]

I'd rank power sword higher in isolation, but I think psyker has better tools to play in melee

anticipation would help power sword so much

[radiant mesa]

So this can be done without macros?

Cool, storing that in the knowledge bank

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[candid temple]

mfw I can't weapon swap abuse on rb or psword

block cancel abuse it is then...

[plucky flax]

It's true I actually never see mk8 in havoc.

[plucky flax]

Yep you just need strong fingers. In that vid I did it manually actually. With macro it's even faster.

[prime elk]

idk about havoc crushers, but in auric, the mk6/mk8 have pretty similar ttk

i can see the argument for using mk6 on staffker

but for gunker i think m8's just straight up better

[plucky flax]

Why so? It's better sustain single target dps.

For fighting bosses too

[prime elk]

i mean outside of qq swap abuse mk8 has noticeably better horde clear

and not like you're fighting bosses all the tiem in auric

so the only thing that'd make me want to take mk6 over 8 is the slightly better crusher ttk

which doesn't really come out to be worth it for me

[plucky flax]

It's not abuse it's skills.

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-bart-meh-so-what-yeah-whatever-not-listening-gif-12564470760699670235

[sick wing]

is the next class psyker 2

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[prime elk]

we're on psyker 4 already

get on with the times

[candid temple]

hmm, I wonder why fgs doesn't lose charge on weapon swap, but psword/rb lose their charged status 😄

clearly fatshark loves psykers

does anyone know any mod that lets you change the size of the buff icons?

I use customhud+better buff bars to move scrier buff icon to a good spot, but I'd like to make it larger...

[modest perch]

buy a bigger monitor

[summer prairie]

I wouldn't mind FGS losing the charge on swap if I could do a full charge special on demand instead of having to accumulate

[candid temple]

Not really an option, there's no curved monitors larger than 57" currently.

It'd be a workaround anyway, I just want to make icon larger.

[plucky flax]

Hudtweaker.

[candid temple]

Hmm, I tried that, but it can only see the default buffs, not the custom bars created by better buff management?

[plucky flax]

You'd probably have to dig through a lot of stuff.

Or it's just not there ye

[robust violet]

What sort of blessings and perks should I put on my FGS for just a general build, I'm not long new so I'll probably be using it in a few different builds as I experiment.

[patent jacinth]

I just run riposte shred because monkey brain crit chance

[robust violet]

Would shred and blazing spirit be good?

[wraith sphinx]

I use unstable and wrath.

Never bothered to try out the other blessings

[modest perch]

no. we want it to be good but its not

[robust violet]

What pairs well with shred then?

[modest perch]

unstable power

[plucky flax]

Shred unstable

[hallow finch]

Perks n blessings on dueling sword?

Precog and shred?

[celest valve]

is it really abuse when it's intentional for the sword to have 0s swap time due to the wield attack

[quartz barn]

Shred, uncanny, precog and the other dodge blessing are all valid

I personally run shred uncanny

For perks crit chance + maniac

[celest valve]

dumpstat is defenses/...something, although penetration is needed for a single silly build for maximum dodge distance

[verbal thistle]

Why do people prefer shred over riposte?

Common thing I've observed

[celest valve]

A successful dodge requires an attack to miss due to currently being in a dodge state. This can be difficult.

Chained hits, on the other hand, are trivial. Thus, it's trivial to keep shred maxed out at 20% bonus crit all the time, while you need to work for 20% bonus crit for 6 seconds.

[verbal thistle]

Especially in context of dueling sword for this. Would time for max crit chance on shred always be lower then riposte even without missing

Since when you are going to use DS (on average psykers are more ranged oriented only only melee for mutant/crusher/boss). You nearly have a gurenteed attacked aimed at you

And DS heavily prefers heavy spam

I wish darktide shares more data for the players

Having a buff uptime screen would be interesting to observe (I do not fully trust the mod)

[quartz barn]

Dodge blessings remain inconsistent for me due to the way i move

[verbal thistle]

I see

A playstyle/experience choice

Another good view

[quartz barn]

I always dodge / dodge slide to reposition rather than dodging attacks

So most of the time dodge perks dont proc

Also with dodge sliding you can easily get out of the effective dodge range

[verbal thistle]

If you care to further this, in your experience how many times do you attack more then 4 times in a row

Or was it 5 for max stacks for shred

[quartz barn]

Afaik it was 5, and vs monsters almost always

[verbal thistle]

And do you use dodge slide against bosses?

(I assume if you have melee out it's you vs boss)

[quartz barn]

Yes

[celest valve]

There's a difference between an attack missing because you were dodging at the time, and an attack missing because you were not where the attack was aimed at, at the time.

[quartz barn]

Depends on which one and the position im in however

For poggy and spawn its always good to bait their attacks away from the team

[celest valve]

Off memory, you need to be in the dodge animation when the attack would have otherwise landed. (there's also code to track misses due to dodge dropping lockon but the attack hit after, but I'm unsure how reliable that is)

[verbal thistle]

I see what you are saying, dodges have small windows in perfect situations (holding agro and you successfully dodge) while shred is just attack an enemy and don't miss

[celest valve]

ya

[verbal thistle]

It's an interesting conversation

[celest valve]

and when you want the crit, IE a single tanky enemy or efficiently plowing through a horde, you like. are gonna be s tacking it lol

so it only really matters in instances where you might attack a couple of times and then peace out, and in those situations you are likely not going to be dodging?

[strong gulch]

Heavy CC and aggro "theft" favor shred.

Also parry.

On ds

[verbal thistle]

Would riposte also be more solo/clutch favored then

[quartz barn]

Ye ive found myself purposely running into attacks with ds lately

[celest valve]

the dodge thing is a bit better on psyker, specifically because the 'dodge ranged attacks for 1 second after critting' does, as far as I know, count as a successful dodge.

[verbal thistle]

It does

[strong gulch]

Ye

[celest valve]

but like. unless they buff riposte to be higher than the bonus you get from chained hits, I'd rather just smack people more :p

[quartz barn]

I always have a staff/gun out when ee is active however

And dont really notice it when in melee

[verbal thistle]

EE could also factor into this

[strong gulch]

I would assume riposte to be more solo friendly.

[verbal thistle]

As you said before, if you have ee you can still count as dodging

So it'd get reliable value vs ranged spam

[quartz barn]

Better question whos actively meleeing while theyre being shot at

[verbal thistle]

Me

[quartz barn]

Ngl also a playstyle thing

[strong gulch]

Same. Me

[verbal thistle]

There are no ranged horde enemies, and when a horde spawns you get free targets to melee while the ranged ones stick back

[summer prairie]

easy to see which has more value on average with Uptime

[verbal thistle]

So shred through the horde towards them while immune to them

[quartz barn]

Mfw i ignore and dodge the horde while clearing ranged enemies

Suppression goes hard

[verbal thistle]

Too many variables (build/playstyle/situation/difficulty) to be able to get actively compared, imo

[summer prairie]

with fgs range you are more frequently out of enemy attack range than with some other weapons and probably get fewer procs unless you are on purpose staying closer

[verbal thistle]

I was just entertaining myself by looking into reason for either

[celest valve]

on psyker? me, 100%, because if I don't I die.

[rain wren]

Most don't know that as long as you are swinging your weapon at enemies your toughness is staying up and range only does toughness damage till your toughness is empty

[celest valve]

psykers are basically invincible with EE as long as they keep doing something to crit once a second

also because one of the more reliable ways to dodge enemy fire is to sprintslide towards enemies :x

[verbal thistle]

Sliding is so abusable

Especially on psyker with the slide dodge linger

Correct me if I'm wrong but psyker has the longest slide dodge linger

Which I find funny because I think sliding is the most beneficial for psyker out of all the classes

Main draw back for staffs is charging them, it also you down and takes time

Remove half of that by just sliding

No movement debuff

[rain wren]

They have shortest distance but can chain slide

[verbal thistle]

Plus the best stamina eco

[rain wren]

Yes that too

[verbal thistle]

Can Regen stam while still sliding

Lol

Waiter waiter

More psyker buffa

[quartz barn]

But i do, im just used to havoc so toughness gain vs loss from gunners isnt sustainable

Atleast not with the way i play

[rain wren]

Do you use gunner resistance on one of your curios?

[plucky flax]

I get more out of shred because enemies dont target me

[quartz barn]

Works fine on arbi however because their toughness gains are busted xd

[summer prairie]

arbi has the same values as psyker

[quartz barn]

No

[rain wren]

Try it out

[quartz barn]

Afaik i have 3 hp, toughness, cd

[verbal thistle]

It actually clicked for me now

I only started noticing a major shift from riposte to shred after ogryn rework

And guess what is the most common ogryn ability right now

Taunt

Taunt has insane range and cool down and easily spammed

[rain wren]

I do 3 toughness 3 hp 1 cd 1 gunner resistance and 1 stam regen

[quartz barn]

Stam regen?

[verbal thistle]

Taunt is also a main thing havoc teams ask for

[rain wren]

Yes or if you don't use stamina often you can switch it for cd or some other resistance

I use stamina a lot as melee psyker so I take what I can

I even use a stam curio

[analog verge]

stamina regen is nice when im using a lot of push attacks

[rain wren]

My curios base stats are a stam and 2 toughness

[hazy birch]

kinda like bubble for psyker

its the ogryns most selfless, team support ability

[analog verge]

when will i see a 4 relic zealot havoc

zero damage on the scoreboard

[plucky flax]

I think arby is better now with charge spam and/or shock mine

Whilst still having really good carapace damage and high mobility

[verbal thistle]

Sadly probably the hardest thing to do

[quartz barn]

Ye main team i saw was bubble purg psyk, charge/shock mine arbi, bosskiller zealot and voc vet for ammo regen

[verbal thistle]

Since pushing enemies into damage counts as damage you djd

Ie burster into hode

All the things the burster killed you dealt as damage

[rain wren]

Yes buster blasting on their friends is fun

[verbal thistle]

Best I got is 4 ogryns slap only havoc 40

https://youtu.be/b1F4yv_5kJY?si=eUN3hSpu6tQ35cw2

[rain wren]

Lol I intend to keep them away from allies at least but if one charges out after I push not my problem

[hazy birch]

wait is that you?

i was planning to watch that full stop but then the first minute of the run the entire boss fight got edited out

[rain wren]

Lol how long did that match last?

I saw the slapping of the plague ogryn and was like yep going to be a long one

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

That was me

Orjan, hamdolsun, kejetok, ainz

[verbal thistle]

We all uploaded

So watch anyone else if you want the full run

I had a friend edit this since I was late uploading my pov

[verbal thistle]

Around an hour, don't fully remember

[hazy birch]

I'll assume the run was legit. I had no idea slap could actually do damage

[rain wren]

Lol

[hazy birch]

seems fast given you had no damage. I'd expect even an auric run with slaps to take a few hours lol

curious what your build looked like to make that feasible

[verbal thistle]

So

The slap is basically a light attack in terms of triggers for talents

[hazy birch]

I see bleed going but when I run it, it's not that strong

[summer prairie]

it's nerfed now

[verbal thistle]

So we triggered, skull crusher, bleed and more

Yeah

For build

Um

I think kejetok has the build in his comments

We all used the same

Besides 2 of us used charge and the others used taunt

[verbal thistle]

46 min

We full cleared too

No rush

Guh

No one put the build in the video

[rain wren]

Lol

[verbal thistle]

I remember most of it

[verbal thistle]

Batter got nerfed recently

From 2 bleed stacks per light

It's now 1

[plucky flax]

Rip basher spam

[verbal thistle]

Club was flak unyield. Skull crusher thunderous

[cosmic cobalt]

infinite cleave moment

[hazy birch]

devs must have saw that run and was like "nah this ain't happenin" lol

honestly even with double bleed stacks that's still wild to think about trying. how many attempts before you guys cleared it?

[verbal thistle]

It was around a week of off and on attempts

I'd say our 10-15th attempt

[hallow finch]

What to dump on blaze sword?

And should i use it over DS

[rain wren]

Warp resistance

Up to you dueling is higher damage but I have more fun with the fgs

[hallow finch]

I meant force sword not greatsword

Mb

I was using fgs for the majority of my time playing psyker

[candid temple]

[rain wren]

I would try dueling then so you can see how it feels. I mean unless you looking for more challenge then go with force sword

[long saddle]

force sword has some useful utilities, like the force block being able to block ranged with a blessing, the force push being able to stagger a lot of stuff and open them up for weakspot hits, or the special attacks (at least on deimos mark, not illisi and idr on obscurus) stunning and locking you on to them

not to mention being able to build peril quickly by using the special repeatedly

but most of those also apply to FGS if you've used the utilities before

[rigid sky]

Try all of the force swords too

they're all very different

(I mean Deimos and Obscurus aren't too far from one another, but yeah)

but they're more different than the FGS marks

[long saddle]

ye I've only really tried deimos and illisi and use them differently

[solid pond]

even better yet, it applies full stacks of bleed from.... batter?

batter indeed

[dusk timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825569643564367883/1419365680305934377/slappin_it.gif

[analog verge]

deimos is very fun even after FGS

more mobile with worse horde clear

it has a huge fucking poke as its second heavy which knocks crushers flat on their ass

[jovial juniper]

Average British bar fight

[summer prairie]

Did a silo DH ritual scouting run and the spawns seem promising already https://streamable.com/ift7dq

I guess it's not that bad depending on how close they trigger, inconclusive here

This is the first time Silo is in the pool with working rituals

[jovial juniper]

Ritual is back?

[summer prairie]

yes

[cosmic sigil]

I have checked. Maybve that's buffs from other teamates affecting me.

[rigid sky]

man I want them to bring Ritual to maelstrom mode

it's such a fun gimmick, even if it's executed poorly at havoc level

I love the idea of getting periodic "hurry up or pay for it" moments

[plucky flax]

Yep that's how it works for me too

[cosmic sigil]

damn

[marble crater]

@strong gulch look what I found while buying groceries

[obtuse dome]

🤮

[obtuse dome]

I hate it so much

That was the most infuriating havoc modifier for me

Made everyone rush for no reason at all.

[weary crane]

It's one of the easiest modifiers imo

Apart from the bugged rituals

[obtuse dome]

Tell that to everyone rushing the damn dh the moment they see it.

[deft stump]

Depends on map. I really don't wanna run from DH to DH to DH because all three started at near same time and they go fast when you reach one spot and cascade.

[weary crane]

Sometimes you can just solo them

Especially if you have box/shock mines to cc everything while you focus on it

[obtuse dome]

Why would you do that?

[weary crane]

So your teammates don't have to push with you

[obtuse dome]

???

[weary crane]

Less risk of everyone dying

They could also just be distracted with other enemies

[obtuse dome]

Thats exactly what i said people would do that fails the mission

Rush ahead to dh for no reason

[weary crane]

Depends how close everyone is to it

[obtuse dome]

If you just stay at distance it will activate a lot slower

No reason to ever split from team as arby

Especially on havoc

[deft stump]

So rot still on... Rot DH gonna suck.

GL pushing through waves on waves of too much hp stuff or time to fight a line of DH.

[weary crane]

I haven't checked

What's the other one?

Please say healing is out

[plucky flax]

Cranial is out

[deft stump]

Stimms Rituals gonna suck as much as Rot Rituals, right?

[plucky flax]

Nah stim by itself sucks a bit but very doable. Its just when its rot + stim it becomes hell with a bunch of blue stimmed crushers and bulwarks

[deft stump]

Yes, but either with rituals.

[plucky flax]

Rituals are fine as long as there's no bug

Just get over there and dont be pussy

[young cliff]

That's a big "IF" feel that buged rituals are an universe constant

[jovial juniper]

I love how we have to specify no bug

[young cliff]

Indeed

[quartz barn]

Blue stimmed dh

[deft stump]

Ppl who say rituals are perfectly fine has not seen excise vault triple DH or what's that one where we climb up a tower to whack a daemon on the way up?

One activates, all activates.

Enjoy speedrunning.

[quartz barn]

Not comms plex

But the comms variant in the hourglass

[deft stump]

Yeah.

The end tower can spawn DHs. And they all activate at the same time.

[plucky flax]

Karien you carry us anyway

[deft stump]

You will always need to fight one unless you get oggies to lob booms at one.

[young cliff]

Seriously the DHosts are fun but GOLLY who coded that carp?

[quartz barn]

Sounds like its time to bust out the 15 stam fgs karien special

[young cliff]

In Karien I believe 🙏

[plucky flax]

Best player

[young cliff]

So humble, so skilled, much carry, very Karien

[quartz barn]

Unironically going for 15 stam and aggroing all of them is prob the play

[mighty cipher]

I have once again gone several months without touching the game. Is BR still the objectively worst blitz for Psyker?

[quartz barn]

Let the team clear the event without you or have them kill the dhs

[young cliff]

If only you could manage the aggro of the DH rituals

[quartz barn]

Fair, idk where they spawn

[deft stump]

Be the one in the back.

[marble crater]

No, because of the buffed Kinetic Flayer add on

[young cliff]

Nope, they not only buffed it but I feel BR focused build with walls is legit Havoc worthy

[mighty cipher]

Was it just the targeting change? I remember that one but not much else.

[young cliff]

I had experienced odd behaviour that doesn't align with that

[young cliff]

It happens 100% of the time every 12 seconds

[marble crater]

It's also 100% chance now with a lower cooldown

[deft stump]

On most maps, that's their aggro. I have no idea how it works for more vertical maps.

[mighty cipher]

Oh damn.

[marble crater]

and it triggers off of soulblaze ticks

[deft stump]

Furthest away gets aggro'd, why at the back.

[mighty cipher]

Any changes to the main attack?

[marble crater]

Brain Rupture

Damage increase is now calculated as a Multiplier (will increase all subsequent bonuses)

[mighty cipher]

Crispy. How aggressive were these buffs? Are we OHKO’ing ogryns with enough buffs Elden Ring style or is it just enough for the non-ogryn elites to be easily killable?

[marble crater]

Not sure, I only use Brain Burst to get Kinetic Flayer

Human sized elites maybe, ogryns for sure not though

They also increased the HP of almost all scab enemies recently

[wind wind]

Always have to smirk when i see not- martyrdomzealots play with more than two wounds on auric damnation or higher.

Especially psykers

It's a bandaid on a bullethole. Because the main problem is them going down at all, not how many times. Chances are that If you go down at higher diffs, you die. Your multiple wounds are just gonna delay the ineviatble, not prevent it.

Curios would be better spent on toughness and gunner resistance If there is survivability issues

But then again there are still people refusing to pick up ammo crates/medcrates or people refusing to use medstims on corrupted teammates on auric maelstrom/damnation so not everyone cares about staying alive lmao

[deft stump]

And then you get ppl picking and using them immediately for no reason.

[wind wind]

Or carrying them to safety up into the gunship, never using them at all

Both equally stupid moves

[young cliff]

If you buff it we'll on a BR build with fire staff for aoe lmb for amp warp damage, you can clean crusher armies fairly fast, 2 BR burst to kill, genuinely believe it's a havoc worth build

[tulip kettle]

so i think what you are saying here is by stacking empyric shock 5 times, and using EP, and being at max peril for warp rider, and taking vulnerable minds, you can then brainburst twice to kill a crusher?

[wind wind]

All of that sounds complicated.

Grabs duelingsword

Dread the emperor toothpick!

[tulip kettle]

i think its stupid and impractical yeah.

but i am testing

[wind wind]

It aint stupid If it works. GL with the testing

[young cliff]

3 times Iirc is enough, no max peril needed nor warp rider since you are using blitz and with the speed up perks on using skill you can have enough speed to clear a havoc H40 crusher army in the average time it takes a Branx ogryn to do it, all while being safer and constantly staggering them for team to kill safer

[young cliff]

There is no evil toothpick in the grand plan of the magnificent Emperor, nor Atoma Prime

[tulip kettle]

..... what?

[mighty cipher]

ESSENCE HARVEST DOESNT STACK ANYMORE???

[buoyant maple]

Don’t think it ever did stack multiple instances

It was always refresh

[tulip kettle]

so yeah it seems to me you need to use multiple charges of EP to do this, you need to stack max empyric shock, and you also need at least one other stacked warp damage buff (mal momentum or warp rider). BR does 1800 dmg to a crusher with vulnerable minds and warp rider at 50% peril and no other buffs

[mighty cipher]

That was the original strength of it.

[tulip kettle]

and even then, it is in no way practical and wont allow you to deal with multiple crushers in any reasonable amount of time

[buoyant maple]

Nah it did not work like vet’s CK like ever

[buoyant maple]

It was always a self-contained instance that refreshed itself

[young cliff]

BR with EP? Odd, have to check again but I remember it doing around 2400 damage so a few empyric shocks would make it cover the 6500 hp of the crushers

[tulip kettle]

i just said it was without EP

and H40 crushers have a lot more than 6500ehp.

[wind wind]

This feels like it belongs in zealot chat 😂

[tulip kettle]

so again, how do you envisage this dealing with a blob of 8 crushers

it just isnt

no hate dude im just saying its not practical or reasonable

[young cliff]

Maybe I have mixed values, but I remember using it on a H40 environment and killing in a reasonable time, probably have to revise it again to set some facts straight (thanks btw)

[rigid sky]

I tend to consider it our most useful blitz, it covers a hole that most of the more common Psyker weapons misses

Inferno and Voidblast staves have not enough reason to take the other two blitzes, but brain rupture rounds them out super well

[wind wind]

Youre in the wrong Chat mate

You belong here -> #zealot-class

[young cliff]

It's the staff psyker sniper-be-gone

[tulip kettle]

i think its more that - smite stinky poo poo. only some builds need assail. every build benefits from KF interaction

[proper osprey]

Look at how it sniffs

[young cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-luther-king-last-speech-stare-gif-15422295264840222623

[wind wind]

Those are some impressive claws at the hooves

[young cliff]

That one day smite will not be so zz inducing

[wind wind]

It's nothing compared to your ability to sniff for chaos

[young cliff]

Why it looks so cute?

[proper osprey]

[tulip kettle]

just make it like every other good blitz in the game (activated BB is not good but KF is) and make it so you dont have to stop doing anything else to benefit from it

its fine for blitzes to take a second or 2 to swap to and use

its not fine to need to channel the blitz and not attack

while its like this smite will always be bad

[young cliff]

Give it an overheat mechanic so if it's filled the psyker take hp damage, that way we train Sparkhead to use it and release which is THE correct way to use it

[wind wind]

I must confess i am a smite main. I neither like BB nor assail. Usually i use a staff for ranged/snipers and a melee for unyielding/carapace.

Unlimited powaaaa for cc

[wraith sphinx]

smite mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-door-jumping-happy-excited-gif-14554367

[wind wind]

Smite supremacy

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/505937209585696770/1419731418212466768/VideoToGif_GIF.gif

[tulip kettle]

i would like to see it be a thing that you charge and release like BB, that targets the closest enemy, that then spreads and shocks enemies, stunning them for 6 seconds or so after impact

[wraith sphinx]

this chat is still gonna be yapping about smite 8 years from now

[young cliff]

The smiters of culture has reunited, Rannick initiate Exterminatus

[tulip kettle]

closer things therefore get stunned earlier and also reactivae earlier

[proper osprey]

Imagine if smite worked like Arby shield

[tulip kettle]

and you can go back t bonking

[young cliff]

Like it had a battery?

[tulip kettle]

it keeps its identity and use case but stops making the psyker do nothing while its working

[proper osprey]

Nah it’s use

[wind wind]

Best use ive found is primary smite to throw someone on their ass, and then beat them to death with melee

[young cliff]

A big
UNLIMITED POOOWAAAAA
in a cone but you have 2 uses that refil over time? I like that tbh

[wind wind]

I usually only use secondary smite for resing/objectives. When its beneficial that everyone stops fucking moving

[quartz barn]

Mfw arbi does this by default

[wind wind]

Also also its always a highlight to see a malice/heresy psyker try their luck in auric/maelstrom and try to smite the chaos spawn

[young cliff]

But even then only having it work for 4 seconds it's enough, people just hold it FOREVER!

[proper osprey]

And make it heavy stagger by knocking bulwarks on the floor

[wind wind]

He is FS's favorite child, what can i say

[young cliff]

Only when it has EP, so it is not just a damage buff

[wind wind]

I am curios to see what the new class is gonna be cooking with.

[young cliff]

There is a lot of speculation but I'm hoping to see the Hadron personal army

[wind wind]

The sassy toaster doesnt need more like her. I only find the commissar more annoying

[young cliff]

She needs servitor tier brain varlets to do her bidding in a binary efficient way

Leagues better than our rejects in following her orders

[royal totem]

I want less hadron

[young cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-brooklyn99-insulted-insult-slap-gif-16736769

[jovial juniper]

I was just forgetting about this

Thanks for reminding me

I hate it still

[umbral tusk]

Any tips for getting the cliffhanger penance?

[neon forge]

I demand that Hallowette be put between them

[marble crater]

There are a bunch of tips in one of the pinned messages

[sick wing]

What is the 2nd most fun class after psyker

Ogryn looks cool but has so few weapons

[solid pond]

its not even a hurry up

its a coordinate or pay for it lol

if one person pushes it and activates it, bad

if everyone pushes it? its fine

unless the one pushing it is a funny assail psyker or a frag bomb ogryn

[royal totem]

Its a chorus zealot 😏

Who gets overheaded by a crusher cuz no chorus up

[marble crater]

Arby, it's fun to be super tanky and have a dog

[solid pond]

if you get overwhelmed by a single crusher as a zealot