psyker-class

[solid pond]

?

[zealous wing]

i thought havoc crushers were 10k hp

[plucky flax]

Can get up to like 15k crit on a bonbon weakspot

[solid pond]

9750*

[wary sky]

Why does Empowered psionics not interact with kinetic flayer?

[marble crater]

Because it does

[wary sky]

no? Im pretty sure I tested it

[marble crater]

Kinetic flayer gets the improved damage

[wary sky]

and it doesn't consume a stack?

[marble crater]

Nope

[long saddle]

idt I've made a build with passive EP KF

sounds interesting tbf

if you're running some build that doesn't need the other keystones

[wary sky]

I was thinking of a build with infantry lasgun using deadly accurate and pumping crit damage

[long saddle]

just go recon lasgun

or pistol if you so prefer

[zealous wing]

i guess my main question would be if the empowered KF would make up for the lack of DD (probably not), or lack of warp charges for shriek cooldown (also probably not)

[long saddle]

ye I'm thinking if you're bubble or something

maybe the dual shields

but then you might want to go full in on BB anyway

I miss EP charged strike

got to use it for one day

[hazy birch]

i just carried the hardest carry ive ever had in darktide

like 3 1vx clutches in one match

got so bad i almost left, bereft of hope. wild ass game

[wary sky]

follow-up question: does taking charged up stack damage on kinetic flayer

[sand field]

can a fully charged voidblast staff still stagger ogryn in high havoc?

[potent saffron]

I think it can open up a bulwark that has no stagger res built up

And crushers for that matter

[royal totem]

i have a quick question

[graceful arch]

NO

no asking questions

[royal totem]

what exactly counts as a close ranged kill

[graceful arch]

anything within 13.5 meters i thonk

let me look it up

might be 15

[cosmic sigil]

Or 12.5

[strong gulch]

12.5m is close range.

[cosmic sigil]

You can check the blessings and talents in kuli's guide

[royal totem]

i see

nah. reading is too hard. asking here is easier

[cosmic sigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

[cosmic sigil]

Ctrl+f

[nocturne wasp]

What an oddly specific number

[royal totem]

my Ctrl key doesn't work 🙁

[cosmic sigil]

[royal totem]

(i AM joking btw)

[nocturne wasp]

Why not just 12 or 13

[cosmic sigil]

FATSHARK

[plucky flax]

Won first game playing ogryn this season. Used the paul. The special explosion seems to count for range damge?

[royal totem]

huh. didn't know you play ogryn

[plucky flax]

I don't play it often. My ogryn is still lvl like 378 though.

Just too slow.

[royal totem]

i thought you said you're a vet main xD

[plucky flax]

[royal totem]

[plucky flax]

I can play all classes.

[royal totem]

i think my ogryn is sub 100

[radiant frigate]

i am elf main

[royal totem]

btw what's the dumpstat on grenadier gauntlet

[modest perch]

melee

[nocturne wasp]

Ammo if focusing on the melee, melee if focusing on shootin

[modest perch]

its always melee lol

[plucky flax]

Melee doesn't improve the special right?

Since that's explosive anyway.

[nocturne wasp]

Sure

[modest perch]

it probably affects the initial punch but its an insignificant difference

vs ammo which is kinda huge

[nocturne wasp]

Not if you aren't using it

[zealous wing]

if you use a gun as a melee weapon, you need a better actual melee weapon

[nocturne wasp]

[dusk wren]

the special is kinda clunky imo

[nocturne wasp]

Lmao while that sounds very reasonable my counter point is they programmed a gun that can be used as a melee weapon so why the fuck wouldn't ?

[nocturne wasp]

Agreed the registration and timing are wild

[fluid aspen]

Is this just on all the time, or is it only DR to health? I'm hitting Critical Peril quite a lot with Scrier so I was thinking of trying this out

Or go Warp Splitting though I don't think I've had any issues with cleave, the only things stopping my swings are armor

[proper osprey]

I don’t run it

Even with melee psyker

[dusk wren]

if i read it right, it's baseline 10% damage resistance (global). And on top of that, when on critical peril, you are stun immune

is that right

[fluid aspen]

I'm binning Warp Ghost so I'm looking to put that point into something else

[wind spruce]

The damage resist applies to health and toughness and is always active

[dusk wren]

is this a melee build

[fluid aspen]

That's what I would think as well, but with explicit "Toughness Damage Resistance" I wouldn't be surprised if it would've been only for health

[proper osprey]

Why would you take off warp ghost

[fluid aspen]

I'm not liking it

[proper osprey]

?

[proper osprey]

It increases toughness replenishment from all sources

What da hell

[wind spruce]

Unless you actually utilise the -passive quell it's definitely optional

[fluid aspen]

I am noticing scenarios where I can get one, maybe two shots off before I'm critical when I need to get a key target

[dusk wren]

warp ghost might just be the most bang for your bucks

kinda crazy how loaded one talent point is

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e81f1c9-3b63-4dc3-809b-9aee0aef4d51/evil-hatchetmancer

Minmaxxed melee psyker

[fluid aspen]

Yeah I really don't care about a build like that

[wind spruce]

Depends how many toughness gen nodes you already have as to whether it's worth it

[dusk wren]

but why warp ghost tho

it's also 2 stamina on the class with the least stamina

[fluid aspen]

I've not really had any Toughness problems before the update either

I only really went down from 1shots

Or when I can't get any toughness at all anyway

[jovial juniper]

10% all the time
While past 97% peril, stun immune
Stun Immune lingers for 4 seconds when you drop below 97

[fluid aspen]

So at the moment Warp Ghost is only giving me high peril in scenarios when I need to get voidstrike shots off

[dusk wren]

warp ghost isn't giving you high peril

-80% passive quelling is incredibly inconsequential

[fluid aspen]

It is when I'm running Scrier and it's not decaying in the 10s Warp Unbound for more than a shot of Voidstrike

[wind spruce]

Why aren't you using your voidstrike in that time?

[fluid aspen]

Either way, I've noticed it multiple times now, and I'm not really noticing the upsides

Because I already have a lot toughness regen, and run Kinetic Deflection anyway

[proper osprey]

Warp ghost is for its toughness gain and Stam

[wind spruce]

I'm not necessarily saying you shoul run ghost but why aren't you using peril during warp unbound...

That's the entire point of the talent.

[fluid aspen]

Who said I wasn't?

[dusk wren]

yeah that's kinda true

then you would be overloaded in any case

[wind spruce]

"It is when I'm running Scrier and it's not decaying in the 10s Warp Unbound for more than a shot of Voidstrike"

[dusk wren]

passive quelling only starts when you are not using warp

[fluid aspen]

That's great

My point still stands that I'm not getting any use out of Warp Ghost

[proper osprey]

Yeah I hate toughness too

[fluid aspen]

[proper osprey]

I hate not taking chip

I love chip

[dusk wren]

i mean if you are doing a melee build and for some strange nonsensical reason you are not taking ghost warp, then yeah, take the 10% DR

[wind spruce]

It's definitely optional on meleeker/gunker builds

[dusk wren]

like, unless you want to go with an hybrid gunker build, this is basically what you always end up with with a melee psyker

[wind spruce]

Because TDR or toughness gen talents will outvalue a 25% increase

[dusk wren]

so just remove ghost warp and take the 10% dr

i know melee/gunker builds are quite starved for talent points

[proper osprey]

Warp ghost is better than that

[dusk wren]

i agree

[proper osprey]

Guh

[dusk wren]

but if you are not taking warp ghost, i think the 10% dr is the second best option

[wind spruce]

Yeah the 10% doesn't outweighs ghosts toughness gen

[proper osprey]

Oh then yeah

[wind spruce]

Do we know what he doesn't have?

[acoustic jacinth]

darktide players will get S tier talents only to excitedly incinerate them

[wind spruce]

What if he's skipped quietude or OWTW

[dusk wren]

no, i'm basing this on a typical melee psyker build

[wind spruce]

Fair

Post your build @fluid aspen

[fluid aspen]

I mean not like it matters at this point, I was asking something about a talent and it turned into people getting offended that I don't want to take a talent

[wind spruce]

No one's offended man (I think)

We're just debating

[fluid aspen]

I need to check if Vulnerable Minds is getting me any breakpoints but I cba

[wind spruce]

I can't remember if you said this had a melee focus? If so malefic momentum could be the pick

Also you have to take warp splitting for assail

[fluid aspen]

Yeah gs

[wind spruce]

Assail only hits 2 targets base. Warp splitting adds 1 more target at 10% peril and another target at 50% peril (ish)

[fluid aspen]

I'll grab Warp Splitting, more cleave is nice

[ripe obsidian]

I got netted, then a crusher double-killed me and the person trying to get me up

[fluid aspen]

It was either Splitting or Immaterial anyway

[royal totem]

Damn. Guess that crusher is getting a promotion

[prime elk]

taking the SG speed node

[fluid aspen]

I have it

It's the middle one

[prime elk]

yeah i know

i'm saying chad move

[fluid aspen]

Oh my bad

Bit tired, can't even read right anymore

[prime elk]

no self-respecting gunker runs without speed node

[fluid aspen]

It's just Warp GS and Voidstrike, I don't like guns on Psyker

[prime elk]

you're basically running a gunker build anyway

[fluid aspen]

It was an experimental By Crack Of Bone SG build before the new tree, it was a lot of fun and it's a lot easier to build now

[proper osprey]

Get warp splitting

[fluid aspen]

Yeah

[proper osprey]

More cleave on vs is good

Assail doesn’t need nodes but it’s good

[fluid aspen]

I'll probably swap Vulnerable Minds to Malefic Momentum to try it out how much I can get out of it, but I'm not switching back and forth that much

[proper osprey]

I’d keep as is

It looks decent atm

Besides the changes that were just made

You also don’t really need 2 dd on weakspots

[fluid aspen]

I've had some funky targeting on it a while back when running mostly melee so I'll just keep it on

[zealous wing]

DD is genuinely not too hard to get up on difficulties where the DD stacks matter

its fair and valid to have it, just, mentioning

[proper osprey]

And warp speed

I don’t like warp speed if I do vs

It’s something you can also drop

[prime elk]

Perfectionist DD is the way to go now

Especially if using FGS

[fluid aspen]

Was the default DD stack duration upped with the new tree? I swear they were like 2s per stack

[ripe obsidian]

I have learned that if I Shriek within ~0.25 seconds of a hound pouncing me, the Shriek goes on cooldown, but no fire or stagger happens.

This goes some way to explain why I can't avoid dogs anymore

Not the full way. But some way. I might not be getting audio cues properly, or maybe I am just bad. Unsure. I've been having a lot of trouble with disablers the last week or two

[strong gulch]

Dom and I were talking about how shirek just doesn't work more often now. Also it coming off cooldown a couple seconds later when that happens.

[zealous wing]

WASNT JUST YOU

when i was book bot

the timer went back up

from like, 32 to 38 or something

thought it was lag related

somehow

[strong gulch]

Not every time for the cool down for me because the old bug is still there, but shriek not doing anything has definitely increased.

[zealous wing]

also i caved and now vet has drip too

need to fix facial hair and such tho because theres no good head pieces yet

this hat might work, but i dont have it yet

until then he hatless, and a maskless freak

(i prefer to have all my characters lower half of face masked, dunno why just personal preference)

[royal totem]

Hexis so much drip

[zealous wing]

AHHH the fuckin CLIPPING

it will kill me

[kind jay]

ok so im not the only one experiencing shriek shenanigans. i also had a game last night where i hit the button, animation went off, but nothing happened

i guess its from eating all those stinky rations, gave my ass strep throat and cant yell so good

[ripe obsidian]

I am glad it's not just me

[nocturne wasp]

I haven't been using my class with shriek so I haven't noticed but I'll give it a try

[modest perch]

its not a shriek thing its a lag/desync thing

[ripe obsidian]

I've also just been having issues with disablers in general. Got pounced 10 times in one game, 7 in another, 6 in another

[royal totem]

🙁

Less specialists plz

[modest perch]

i think their spawns are bugged tbh

had a game the other day where slightly over 10% of my kills were specialists

granted the rest of the team wasnt doing much but still 110 specialists outside of hunting grounds seems excessive

[marble crater]

Have you tried dodging?

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know how to dodge

[marble crater]

Press a button, I think

[royal totem]

Less specialists plz

[deft stump]

Welcome to the Vet experience.

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[deft stump]

EVERYTHING CLIPS.

Even if you go full set.

[candid temple]

No hair, no clipping

[tulip kettle]

shriek beeing funky with activation and cd, enemies just ignoring it when it does go off, enemies just walking through shock mines

theres a lot of stuff rn thats just, really inconsistent

[nocturne wasp]

Sounds like global server lag

[strong gulch]

Sounds like my brain. rip

[royal totem]

I dun like inconsistency

[nocturne wasp]

RIPCHIPS

[tulip kettle]

earlier i got hit by a crusher overheading the ground next to me

i have also had a few instances of dogs doing gutter runner behaviour

[zealous wing]

i do know

that that one time

[tulip kettle]

pushing it off myself when its already pinning me to the floor; "oh i have now decided you did indeed push it"

at band camp?

[zealous wing]

in the carnival one where we break the main stim chamber thing

the small arena/ambush where you got crushered.. that one

you were in a corner

:p

i couldnt see from your perspective but to me you looked completely stuck

[tulip kettle]

i dont remember that one

[zealous wing]

you were... unhappy

it was one of the runs we did last night

[nocturne wasp]

Taking Smyker back.
From now people who use smite responsibly shall get the cool ass name, and the others shall be known as "psykers who are bad at smite"

[zealous wing]

good smite psykers get a respectful term, like, psyker who happens to use smite

we dont call brain burst psykers BBkers, or assail psykers askers, smykers are the only one with that... pleasure

[ripe obsidian]

That sounds hard. Is there an easier option?

[zealous wing]

get a foot pedal for dodge

[ripe obsidian]

Constantly. Half the times I get pinned, the dog immediately falls off of me

[candid temple]

I've actually been considering getting a pedal for a while.

[marble crater]

play arby

[nocturne wasp]

You know they have controllers with back paddles right?

[patent mango]

god its been a while without a scriers gaze buff

wheres the weekly scriers buffs

[candid temple]

Scrier's pretty mid tbh, bubble better to protect your team with.

Buff scrier to also drop a mini shield.

[strong gulch]

foot pedal gang

[patent mango]

mobile bubble shield on scriers

[candid temple]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-cyberpunk2077-no-way-shocked-cyberpunk-gif-27166104

[royal totem]

Scrier's makes team immune to projectiles while its running

[nocturne wasp]

Scriers makes smite kill actually things

[royal totem]

Smite kills everything it spreads to thats nonelite during scriers

[nocturne wasp]

But faster so you can stop smiting and actually play the game instead of being a nuisance

[candid temple]

You auto minismite that stops enemies attacking, but they can still move

While in scriers.

Thats if you take smite.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-pleasestop-theoffice-gif-4184950

[candid temple]

If you take assail, it will autocast charged assails

[empty depot]

im kinda new to darktide and have been doing a Bio Lightning main build,is there a specific build anyone would reccomend from the google doc or other for a pure biolightning build? i barely use staffs or guns or even mele

[candid temple]

Without having to swap off from melee/ranged.

[tulip kettle]

right now, at this very moment, everyone is memeing about smite being donkey balls

its widely hated for a number of reasons

please, consider learning to play the game instead

[candid temple]

And if you take bb, it will autocast it on pinged specials/elites, every 2.5 seconds.

[empty depot]

weird,i love it,been nothing but usefull

[royal totem]

Oh and.

Even better

Your teammates lose the ability to leave game or close application

[candid temple]

It makes the game stop and makes the match extremely boring for the rest of the team, if used all the time.

[quiet inlet]

Just got out of a game where a smyker lost a fight to 3 poxwalkers

[tulip kettle]

burster trolling it is

[empty depot]

well i asked for builds,not opinions on core gameplay

[distant otter]

kill yourself black templars wanna be

[royal totem]

And for duration barrels are unpoppable and youre immune to bursters

[candid temple]

Ah, well, good luck with that attitude.

[empty depot]

and good luck with your reddit gold

[royal totem]

Itll be "fair and balanced"

[quiet inlet]

I want to start a folder of things I have seen smykers lose fights to, last game was also a solo mauler

[distant otter]

bro is john discord

[nocturne wasp]

I would but I don't know how to get a full ss of it

[royal totem]

Mods. Plz ban. I dun like being called a "donkey rapist"

[tulip kettle]

"new member - give me smite builds"

[nocturne wasp]

I'm like Jim discord

[distant otter]

you are thou

[tulip kettle]

"new member - give my friend smite builds"

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-gene-wilder-you-must-be-new-here-gif-3545114

[distant otter]

i want to zap things

you got a problem fuck toy?

[tulip kettle]

this is not zealot chat homie

[candid temple]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thinking-pondering-wondering-scratching-chin-gif-11502638504770659337

[patent mango]

anyone wanna watch some family guy f unny moments

[tulip kettle]

take your trash language and worse attitude outta here

[patent mango]

im on episode 5 rn the plot is kinda crazy

[tulip kettle]

i think the baby can talk

[strong gulch]

Can you please stop with the kill yourself and rapist stuff.

[patent mango]

😨 ?

that cant be...

[tulip kettle]

<@&735928989146939404>

[quiet inlet]

so this is what written verbal smite looks like

[rain wren]

Sounds like underage talk

[candid temple]

Doesn't make smyters look good at all.

[pale sky]

Well that didnt take long

[patent mango]

dilara broke out of containment....

[wind wind]

Lol i just came by to say hi...

[tulip kettle]

rip and tear, until it is done

[pale sky]

https://tenor.com/view/sakamoto-nichijou-cat-plush-death-gif-9178639101841172402

[wind wind]

All that Drama here

[dusk timber]

Just a heads up the guy is also on the balatro server

[patent mango]

i knew balatro was toxic...

competitive balatro...

[dusk timber]

So for everyone who is also on that server make sure to block the fucker

[raw garnet]

Sanest deadlock player

[zealous wing]

not something i expected to tab into

lmao

[royal totem]

Honestly though name checked out

[zealous wing]

didnt have a chance to call him a child. but, that usually sets them off like crazy

idk what it is but if you merely call them a child, they will always lose their shit

[patent mango]

if someone calls you a child just call them unc

[rain wren]

I said they are underage

[zealous wing]

underage, and "child" dont have the same punch to them i think

[rain wren]

Sounds like when my kids were preteen

[zealous wing]

its probably best i wasnt here because who knows what they'd have said after that

[wind wind]

Anyway, change of topic

I just got done with my psyker weeklys and even after 1300+ hours in this game, i am still surprised how wildly the quality of auric damnation quickplay players varies.

From havoc 40 geniuses that make the difficulty seem like uprising to absolute dunderheads who belong on uprising.

Forrest Gump comes to mind. Youll never know what youll get

Most of them fall in the "i can play this difficulty as long as no one on the team dies" category, so its ok. Although one death will probably spiral into a wipe

[rain wren]

They would say things like I hate you I wish you were dead. Then throw their little tantrums to their room

[raw garnet]

Why you calling me out with that last paragraph

[zealous wing]

its very similar to one dude i had in 2 games. one game he was begging us to stop killing things so fast, because he couldnt get any kills, then the next time i saw him he was demanding we move faster. i called him out on the flip and he went absolutely nuts

[wind wind]

Lmao i mostly call out myself. I feel like i am barely on the verge of leaving that category.

[raw garnet]

I only have 250hrs so I'm still getting to grips with the fine details

Or so I tell myself

[zealous wing]

i'd say thats accurate

[wind wind]

I have five times as many hours.

youre doing ok

[zealous wing]

if you feel youre still learning, youre still learning

[raw garnet]

My friend says I'm improving

So that's all I care about

[candid temple]

This is why i enjoy quickmatch.

The surprise.

[raw garnet]

Quickmatch is so goated

Even tho it's usually voc vets and charge zealots

[wind wind]

What did Evelyn say once to me in vc? Bad teammates are just additional free difficulty modifiers

[raw garnet]

What class do you want to see the most in a qp

[zealous wing]

depends whats being played

if im a psyker, anything goes

[candid temple]

Bubble psyker, generally can carry even the worst dunderheads

[wind wind]

Well done, sparkhead. Keep at it

[rain wren]

Arbite if I'm psyker, psyker if I'm any other

[zealous wing]

arby drop in's are a huge gamble

[raw garnet]

Nothing like a decent taunt ogryn imo

[zealous wing]

i play ogryn the way i wish ogryns around me played when i was a psyker

[raw garnet]

Basically me

[nocturne wasp]

I'm just shy of 250 DT hours but have shy of 3k VT2 hours

[raw garnet]

QP ogryns SUCK I feel like

With taunt at least

[zealous wing]

shield, taunt, kickback (for now), and rock. no FPS drops for the lower rig users

[rain wren]

I like arbite as tank because of nuncio to boost my damage but ogryn do not flinch when picking up people or doing objectives

[raw garnet]

I just can't get the hang of rock and ogryn nuke is so funny to me

[wind wind]

Honestly i look for a good mixture

We need CC, Boss damage, Carapace damage and ammo sustainability. If you can cover that between 4 psykers i wouldnt mind. It's usually problematic If you have 3 flamestaff psykers and a braced autogun vet and none of you can deal with that fucking Sniper 50 mtrs out because also none of your psykers took either assail or brainburst

[zealous wing]

i saw a clip recently of a bad tauntgryn, having it active while they fought the boss in a tight space with other players. now i carefully make SURE im not putting others in such a situation

[zealous wing]

rock takes practice, but it has instakill override on mutants, so i do like it

it kills them no matter the difficulty

[rain wren]

That's another reason why I like seeing arbite tanks. I don't have to worry about getting hit since they stagger well

[zealous wing]

it also sends them flying in the best way

[raw garnet]

This is the main reason I run knives on zealot now because the moment I swap to flame nades my next game will have like a rumbler ogryn, flame psyker and shotgun arb and there'll be increased snipers or bombers or some shit

So miserable

[wind wind]

I got my ass saved by arbites soo much today i ought to take them to Dinner

[zealous wing]

i've taken to running revolver on my zealot if im not running knives or if i know im with an inferno psyker

[raw garnet]

Prob should do the same

I like bolt pistol more tho

[zealous wing]

cshotgun could also do the trick, bistol probably fine too

i just like the revolver

[raw garnet]

Oh the slug shotty

Yea

[zealous wing]

ye

[raw garnet]

So like, is the flame combat shotgun bad or something

Not good

[zealous wing]

its...

[raw garnet]

Never hear anyone talk about it

[zealous wing]

its not ideal

[patent mango]

its uhhh uhhh... uhh,, ,, ermm .. . .

[rain wren]

Lol whenever my friend pops on I play psyker instead of arbite since he mains arbite and does enough stagger where I don't need to be arbite so I go full dps

[patent mango]

i try using it then the fire doe slike 9 dmg then im sad

[raw garnet]

I haven't used it since I started playing vet, who was my second character

[zealous wing]

speaking of vet

[wind wind]

Yeah, thats why i modle every build i have in a way that can deal with snipers. Flamer zealot? Knife. Rumbler ogryn? Rock (surprisingly far reach, will get snipers up to 50 mtrs) Flamestaff psyker? Brainburst
Shotgun vet? Smoke grenades
Short range arbites? Castigators stance and/or dog

[zealous wing]

hellbore lasgun. i heard someone say it was a bad gun

it doesnt feel like its a bad gun

[patent mango]

helbore is just kinda eepy

[wind wind]

The world is bereft of joy without good friends

[zealous wing]

eepy how? 1 - 2 shotting a reaper doesnt FEEL eepy

[patent mango]

there really isnt that much interesting stuff to it

[wind wind]

It's a high skill gun If you ask me. Ive seen vets kill everything with this gun in seconds and ive also been me with that gun

[raw garnet]

I've heard it can get pretty impressive damage

[zealous wing]

i am enjoying it, but, gotta work vet up to auric to test it in a proper fight

[raw garnet]

It's not the plasma gun but what is yk

[wind wind]

They do insane crit/unyielding damage. They can kill bosses so fast its amazing

However... You need to hit weakspot hits with it...

[zealous wing]

i just did the like, 3rd or 4th mission ive played on vet since i first got the game, where i quit after he hit lvl 30, and it was sedition/uprising playthroughs

[raw garnet]

Yeah, my one issue with the helbore was the iron sights which is the same issue I have with stub revolver

But the irons are better now so

Maybe I give it a try

[zealous wing]

i ended up snagging the skin for it in the commodores, i kinda like the irons on it

[patent mango]

a lot of people just use extended wep customization for better sights lol

[zealous wing]

nice and straightforward

[raw garnet]

I've heard it weighs on the processor

[wind wind]

I hereby challenge you to use it for one auric damnation quickplay but you can only use the bayonet attack 🫠

[raw garnet]

And my PC isn't very good rn

[patent mango]

its worth a shot since the new version is supposedly quite cheap on performance

[zealous wing]

there IS a mod for crosshairs on range weapon ADS iirc

[patent mango]

that also works

[raw garnet]

I've been using that mod because I HATE vanilla plasma gun sights

[zealous wing]

the plasma gun, i dont get

[patent mango]

i just use the same sights on every gun im lazy

[raw garnet]

I made it a fuckin dot

[zealous wing]

for a psyker cosplay its fun i guess

[raw garnet]

And it's 10x more fun to use

Than that stupid fuckin

Monstrosity of a crosshair it has

[patent mango]

new monstrosity boss fight

[raw garnet]

Might as well be

[zealous wing]

if you use it past 100 it is a fight

[raw garnet]

Why doesn't he just drop the gun and pick it back up

[zealous wing]

RIGHT

!?

he has time to look at it in panic

[raw garnet]

New vet perk: throw your fucking plasma gun at them

[zealous wing]

yeet that bitch like a grenade!

same with psykers

[raw garnet]

Oh wait

[zealous wing]

give ogryns the option to yeet psykers who are exploding

[raw garnet]

Lmao

[rain wren]

They have something for that. Suicide bomber

[zealous wing]

bonus points if the psyker has crystalline will

[rain wren]

It is fun

[zealous wing]

helbore just 3 shotted a crusher.... bruh

[rain wren]

And can keep doing it if a weak special is around

[zealous wing]

how is gun BAD

[raw garnet]

It's not

[zealous wing]

whoever said it needs HELP

like genuinely, hunt them down and give them good stats 😭

i dont even have a decent talent build, i BET

im notoriously bad at making my own builds

i also just grabbed whatever seemed good post update and havent touched shit

or looked into it

[candid temple]

idk, it's hard to fuck up a build these days

unless you like take everything at top and middle

[zealous wing]

trust me its possible, when im the one doing it

people look at my builds and cry

just ask dom

[candid temple]

pics for proof

[zealous wing]

let me get the website open, sec

flame it

advice after also accepted

[verbal thistle]

I too also love not taking the only DR vet has

[candid temple]

there's some choices there, but it's not totally terrible as you still have keystone

[zealous wing]

to be honest, there were no choices :p

it was, get it done so i can ignore vet longer

never played it

[candid temple]

but, penance points

[zealous wing]

meh

no rush anymore

got my 5500

[candid temple]

surely fatshark will add 6000 reward soon

Surely

I think another recolor of havoc one would be good

maybe red or green this time

[quiet inlet]

I'd find a point for iron will

depending on what weapon you're using, mightbe able to do without either reload or swap speed

[zealous wing]

reload speed gone

just gotta remember to not run out before i reload, and ill get the 25%

[weary idol]

helbore 4 can one shot them

[zealous wing]

it CAN, yeah, but, still working on getting it figured out

[quiet inlet]

especially with shout, it's pretty easy to stay above 75% toughness

[zealous wing]

even with what ive got though, 3 shot is pretty good

not ideal

but, not as bad as the fuckin bolt gun

[weary idol]

bolter should be able to 4-ish shot new crushers

haven't used it in a hot minute

[zealous wing]

with a slow as fuck reload

and pull out speed

i do not like

[candid temple]

boltgun delay on pullout makes it unusable for me

can't deal with that slowdown, when I need to snipe a special

[prime elk]

it's ok with ES and/or OM

it's not THAT bad

[weary idol]

bolter has a "runs out of ammo" problem that I wish it didn't have

I wish to shoot my gun forever

[candid temple]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-weapons-team-imperial-guard-dawn-of-war-warhammer40k-gif-15592890

[modest perch]

baffling how they nerfed the ammo and buffed crushers

and said they thought ppl were "using it too much" like its not one of the worst guns for ammo economy

[candid temple]

they condensed crushers, get like 3 instead of 6 before?

[prime elk]

i mean the ammo economy really isn't that bad tho

even with the nerf

though if you run around spraying it all the time, yeah, it's gonna be bad

[candid temple]

horde clear with recon las

[modest perch]

what difficulty are you on that doesnt spawn them like 8-10 at a time ?

[modest perch]

these guys are worse than smykers

[weary idol]

Mk XIV can cleave a poxboy

Go get em

[candid temple]

i mean the packs

[modest perch]

i ran into a guy running a recon in civi but he was actually kinda useful n didnt run out of ammo

[candid temple]

and auric/maelstorm

[modest perch]

idk i always call it a pile of crushers

a gang of bulwarks

a pack of ragers

a bunch of maulers

[candid temple]

like the ambient packs used to be in pack of 2-3 crushers, some maulers
now they're 1-2 crushers

if you pull the whole room you still get a bunch of course

and really, i don't know if it's a buff to crushers

I think with some builds, ttk on new crushers is same/faster

[modest perch]

dude the piles seem just as gregarious as before except now theyve got way more health

[candid temple]

and less risky, since there'ss less of them

[weary idol]

but consider

krak grenades work now

[candid temple]

piles just mean shock mine/krak time

[modest perch]

i mean they always did ? now theyre just better

[weary idol]

psyker

uh

psyker

[modest perch]

rending trauma

[candid temple]

are you running quad psyker?

[modest perch]

bfg

[candid temple]

in which case, each psyker picks 2-3 crushers and 2 shots them all with fgs?

[weary idol]

love that staff

[modest perch]

or just toothpick only civi run if ur sick af

[candid temple]

quad meleeker is a interesting teamcomp though

[modest perch]

sounds like a shitshow

[weary idol]

tazmanian devil team composition

[modest perch]

but also very based

[raw garnet]

When I get my PC back I will be giving trauma a try

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/b2vByI77xbq.gif

[candid temple]

there's not enough enemies for so much FGS

[royal totem]

no PC? gasp

[raw garnet]

It's being worked on rn

[royal totem]

ahh sadge 🙁

[deft stump]

Just turn DLSS off and no more stutters.

[deft stump]

Get in line. My personal builds make people suffer one way or another and yet ppl expect clutches with them.

[royal totem]

wow Karien's font changed?

[zealous wing]

yknow whats sad? i HAVE nitro, but it never gives me the things it says i should have access to 😔

[royal totem]

i assume the actual nitro and not like the basic one? but idk what nitro gives me other than big upload lims

[deft stump]

No. Nitro thing. Only shows on PC ver.

[zealous wing]

basic and the other have access, i have basic. i dont have :(

[royal totem]

huh. weird 😮

[zealous wing]

[deft stump]

I think they forgot to change it.

But yeah, name thing is a recent thing.

It also glows red in DMs.

[zealous wing]

or here

[deft stump]

Basically, PC Discord shows some stuff, mobo shows other stuff. Great coding.

[wooden sand]

Edgy

[deft stump]

I'm surprised you even come here.

[wooden sand]

Why

[polar flower]

Did they change Psykinetics Wrath to Crystalline Will? I have to do the challenge but I cant find the talent

[deft stump]

You normally in general, lul. Patpats.

[wooden sand]

Because I don't have enough neurons to be jumping from chat to chat every second

[zealous wing]

crystal will was aready there

its just a lil better now

[deft stump]

Neither do I. I just put more focus here.

[wooden sand]

Why specifically here?

This is the worst chat

[polar flower]

Where is Psykinetic Wrath now

[zealous wing]

its the default shriek

[deft stump]

Most of the ppl I know are here.

[zealous wing]

normal shriek also works

[royal totem]

i'm just here for Karien to carry

[deft stump]

I think they are doing the 50 vent saves thing.

[zealous wing]

the default quells 10%, allowing you to merely not explode from overload

[polar flower]

Thank you

[deft stump]

I do nawt carry.

[polar flower]

Can you replace it with Venting Shriek to do the Blessed By Fate penance

[zealous wing]

i do believe so

merely try it out for a mission, shriek when you start doing the explode animation, and there you go, no splosion

[deft stump]

You can.

Use it when your char puts their hands on their face.

[royal totem]

when your chara starts screaming lol

[deft stump]

That's when you are locked into the boom soon animation.

[royal totem]

i give up. there's just no havocs for me to join

and i refuse to play my current one

[candid temple]

[acoustic jacinth]

"I give up" The humble commissar:

https://tenor.com/view/40k-deathkorps-krieg-commissar-astra-militarum-gif-12997506419570748279

[wooden sand]

Comissar after you warn them that your entire team got mind controlled by a warp demon and are, right now, killing themselves

[dense moon]

"currently killing themselves? meaning their lives are not yet spent for the emperor? The warp is nothing in light of faith" discharges bolt pistol into one of the manic guardsmen and by some miracle the other guardsmen recover from the demonic possession

[royal totem]

i need a better game to play than this one -_-

[candid temple]

arc waiders?

[royal totem]

dunno. but whatever it is, i don't like playing "waiting in PF simulator"

[zealous wing]

you could try the LFG channels, for an extra chance. quality will be about the same

[raw garnet]

Yea

Discord lfg is your next bet

[rain wren]

Learning death comes for you on a weaker starting path makes you stronger

Lol I didn't pass the first mission with psyker till I was level 15

That was my learning experience

Weak weapons weak start with psyker was an achievement

Lol oh typed this in wrong chat

[royal totem]

dunno i still don't find many parties for me at the times i play

[candid temple]

Dt was your first tide game?

[candid temple]

Only na has players at this time i think

Too early for asia, too late for eu

[rain wren]

No I just was not using vermontide mindset I was doing fishy shit cod

It just didn't come to me till I was like fuck guns and used my sword

[raw garnet]

Yeah the best piece of advice I was given about this game is that there's a reason your melee weapon is 1 on your keyboard lmfao

[rain wren]

Yes it is primary weapon

[polar flower]

Holy animal abuse

Kicked the shit out of that dog

[rain wren]

You let warp consume you?

Oh ok yes had to replay that lol I was like who did a one hitter

[polar flower]

I need to do that challenge where I overdose on warp and snap out of it with the scream

[raw garnet]

How did you stop exploding

[zealous wing]

they didnt

[polar flower]

Venting Shriek

[raw garnet]

Yeah they did, they started to overload and stopped

It does that?

[polar flower]

Yeah. Found out today.

[zealous wing]

oh and then they downed

and ye, thats what its for

[raw garnet]

Wow

I had no idea LMAO

[zealous wing]

starter ability and venting shriek

[fierce crest]

quelling peril makes you not explode

[polar flower]

The fire add on for Shriek combined with Wildfire is actually really good for crowds

[zealous wing]

i didnt know either until it was MY turn to do the penance

[fierce crest]

battle meditation and scrier's can too

[raw garnet]

BATTLE MEDITATION???

[zealous wing]

battlemed is more RNG but if you run bubble its your only hope

[raw garnet]

Holy fuck everything makes more sense now

[fierce crest]

if youre infernoing it happens pretty often

[zealous wing]

ye, but if youre bubbleknight, say byebye

[fierce crest]

in theory crack of bone and tranquility through slaughter would too but idk if theres a way to trigger them while exploding

[zealous wing]

or, hope infernus blesses you

[raw garnet]

I've just been rawdogging inferno greatsword bubble

[zealous wing]

SIBLING

[raw garnet]

Gonna try trauma soon

Flames is fun tho

[zealous wing]

well good thing you found shriek then

VB is starving for peril

[fierce crest]

trauma can be flames too :)

[polar flower]

Wildfire and Creeping flames let me cover everyone is soulfire, the sword sets enemies on fire when it crits, Soul Drinker gives me higher crits and restores toughness on Soulblaze kill, and all of that soulfire feeds into Warp Siphons In Fire Reborn add-on which recharges my Fire Shriek.

I am just a ball of blue fire.

[rain wren]

Fgs for the win

[raw garnet]

I also want to try wall shield tho

[zealous wing]

oh honey no... blazing spirit on FGS is just sadness

[raw garnet]

So, is regular force sword any good or no

[rain wren]

No melee psyker fgs

[zealous wing]

most of the time when it crits, it kills

[rain wren]

Leave the staff at home

Lol

[zealous wing]

they are, but theyre also more specific

[rain wren]

Get force greatsword instead

[zealous wing]

deimos is good for knocking crushers on their ass, maulers and ragers too, if armoured.
obscurus is good mix, but, no knocking things over
illisi is a worse FGS, but its a great peril generator

[rain wren]

Or dueling sword

[raw garnet]

Already maxed it out

That too

DS is so boring

Greatsword is fun

But I wanted to try force sword

[raw garnet]

So which one is the best?

Or which one would you recommend me using

[rain wren]

It won't be very impactful but if you want challenge I say do it

[zealous wing]

they're all situational, obscurus is best if you can make it work for general utility
deimos is best singletarget
illisi is the best of the 3 for specifically horde clear and peril generation, and nothing else

if you take illisi, just take FGS instead, but, its fun for early difficulties

[polar flower]

Here's the Evil Ass Fire Build for anyone that wants to try it out.

[zealous wing]

illisis charged tho is nice for dreg rager deletion

[raw garnet]

Noted

I'll probably just stick with trauma for now then

The utility of quelling with your melee out is too useful to use another weapon imo

[zealous wing]

one small advice, since you seem to be having fun with what youve got
since youre focusing on crit, switch anticipation for empathic evasion right above it. ranged immunity on crit for 1s

[hazy birch]

its a nice feature, but its easier to manage than you may think

[zealous wing]

itll help with any bullets flying your way

[raw garnet]

Perhaps

[zealous wing]

and, i do mean ANY

[raw garnet]

I could finish up combat axe levels

Or something else

[zealous wing]

snipers, plasma gunners, also count

still dodge but, for the ones you cant

[wind spruce]

@plucky flax @summer prairie @ripe obsidian what are your thoughts on PotS for surge surge? As syllo states in @ripe obsidian's guide, you're sacrificing most of your time in scriers' anyway so cutting warp speed seems like not a big deal, then you only need to cut ghost which six states is optional or something else to reach it (not having IF seems fine too). It more than doubles your crusher damage, gives a decent boost against bulwarks/reapers/monstrosities and helps with maulers and scab ragers a bit too. You could run this:

[zealous wing]

i'd also suggest finding a point for mettle, to get some speed in there

[hazy birch]

if i were to give advice on how to approach loadouts, it would be to run what you like. rather than trying to cover bases like quelling on all weapons. enjoy your build, and work the build. dont let the build work you.

[zealous wing]

there are definitely some things that people do that make me wince but, its hard to really bring up some of them without risking upsetting the other person needlessly

unstable power not being on the FGS makes me a lil sad, but, if they're having fun, theyre having fun

if they want help later, they'd ask

[hazy birch]

which one is unstable power?

more damage per peril?

[zealous wing]

+5 strength based on peril, but the secret unwritten part is it stacks 4x

[raw garnet]

Unstable power is just

Great

[zealous wing]

so its +20 at 80%+

[raw garnet]

I like high peril

[hazy birch]

well yea. +5 with no stacks would be balls lol

[raw garnet]

It's free

[zealous wing]

exactly, and its written to seem like that, so no one takes it until they see us mention it here

[hazy birch]

the only thing i dont like is that in my testing u dont get max benefit unless ur over like 90-95 peril

which is too rich for me to be hanging out in at all times unless im running scriers

[zealous wing]

i dont understand why fatshark insists on lying

[wind spruce]

There's no 5th stack

Is there?

[hazy birch]

5th stack?

[wind spruce]

Nvm I misread

[zealous wing]

instead of everyone having a fair chance, they've got a smaller community of code-readers who know the secrets they hide, and everyone else is lost

and no its 4 stacks

[hazy birch]

they misspell a bunch of shit too

[raw garnet]

It's nice when you activate the special attack which can put you at 100% because you can just start chopping

[hazy birch]

or just flat leave words out of descriptions

[wind spruce]

Why would you need to be above 90-95 instead of just 80 @hazy birch

[zealous wing]

regeneneration comes to mind

[hazy birch]

see it all the time in some of the tree nodes

[zealous wing]

regenneneneneneration

[hazy birch]

the way thats worded is giving me a headache

[zealous wing]

gave us all "pregananant" vibes

[raw garnet]

Am I

[hazy birch]

whats the question again?

oh. well in testing, i have a mod that shows current crit chance

and i have a perk that gives me crit based on peril

and i dont top out until somewhere over 90 peril

[zealous wing]

stength is stuff like damage and stagger though

[hazy birch]

so i have to assume, since i have no other way to view it, that all other "based on peril" buffs work the same way

[zealous wing]

which perk was that again

the crit one

[wind spruce]

Nah the 4th stack from Warp nexus and UP activate at 80.00%

[rain wren]

Yes stagger yummy

[hazy birch]

source?

[raw garnet]

Strength is goated

It's like finesse it effects a few things

[zealous wing]

the sourcecode, most likely

[verbal thistle]

Strength is power and power is damage/stagger/cleave

[hazy birch]

i mean whats the source this info was pulled from thats credible enough to cite it as certain

[zealous wing]

the.... game code?

[rain wren]

Come on you got to do the whole dark side code since you started

[zealous wing]

uploaded and verified on github?

[acoustic jacinth]

This is common knowledge

[wind spruce]

That's what the UI and every guide maker like pygex, Kuli, six, etc, say

[acoustic jacinth]

Most people you ask will know what strength gives, and you get the same answer everytime for a reason

[hazy birch]

that may be, but if its knowledge it should be stated somewhere that shows the data

i dont see why warp nexus would work differently. but it does

[wind spruce]

According to the crit mod

Which also doesn't count weapons like EK's crit chance until you shoot it, so its not infallible

[acoustic jacinth]

Warp nexus is at its peak at 80% peril = 4 stacks

[hazy birch]

im testing it again right now and its erratic. sometimes its proccing max below 90, other times it has to be above 90

idk whats going on

[final viper]

Hey just wondering trying to get the blessed by fate penance, what's the psykinetics wrath?

[wind spruce]

Record a hundred plus data points at 80-85%

[zealous wing]

starter ability

or, venting shriek also works

[final viper]

Ah ok was kinda confused since I stuck to scriers gaze for so long lol

Thank you

[zealous wing]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/master/scripts/settings/buff/weapon_buff_templates.lua

i cannot be fucked to do code reading so here ya go, it may or may not be on this specific page, good luck

[hazy birch]

i aint readin through all that lol

[zealous wing]

you asked

you get

there you go

source, its in there somewhere

[wind spruce]

Record the data points instead

[hazy birch]

i asked for said individual who made the claim to provide the info

[zealous wing]

@ripe obsidian

NERD

[hazy birch]

cuz in my own testing it doesnt proc fully till after 90. though its acting weird currently and doing it below 90 sometimes. cant figure out why

[wind spruce]

Not proccing based on the buff bar or the crit mod?

[hazy birch]

crit mod

only way i have to see my actual crit chance

because the game doesnt like to just give you data apparently

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/nVy4Qb

both the crit mod and buff far are showing the 4th stack activate at 80%

[hazy birch]

guess my games broken

[ripe obsidian]

what

[wind spruce]

probably an interpolation issue

[hazy birch]

either way my original point still stands. 80 is more forgiving than 90 but not by much. if you are in a situation where you really need to output damage quickly and are at 80% you can't do much before having to stop to quell

[wind spruce]

definitely is, you can see my true peril in the corner

[ripe obsidian]

Ehhhhhh. It helps against unyielding and carapace, but still

[hazy birch]

wait what's happening here

[wind spruce]

peril quells in chunks, the base UI smooths out the change in peril so that it doesnt look like chunks

[hazy birch]

so how are you getting two different values

[wind spruce]

because the base UI is slightly behind reality

[hazy birch]

I'm using a UI mod for mine

the base game seemed to update faster but not by that much

regardless I couldn't make it big enough for my liking so I use the custom UI version

[wind spruce]

iirc crosshair HUD lets you scale it up

[hazy birch]

yea the one I use is likely that one. I've got 2 hud mods. can't remember which the peril meter came out of

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/5kOnZB you can see the interpolation demonstrated more clearly here (just squint)

[hazy birch]

so do u think the crosshair UI version is more accurate?

[wind spruce]

i honestly cant remember which mod is providing the smaller peril text, but yes if it quells in chunks instead of smoothly (ie, removes the interpolation) it'll be more accurate

[hazy birch]

i thought the smoothness was more accurate

giving faster polling rate data or something

but testing it myself, if im at 40 or something, and i just tap my quell, it immediately goes down to 30 or whatever on the mod UI. base UI slowly creeps down

[zealous wing]

idk man, being drunk made me a god at Doom eternal

you mightve missed a chance to see some god tier play

[hazy birch]

no regrets

[royal totem]

so i should always play with hexis when they're drunk

noted

[zealous wing]

i mean, its an option, i dont drink much though

its a special occasion kind of thing

[royal totem]

i drink about 3 servings of alcohol a year

[hazy birch]

"drunk" is on a sliding scale from "tipsy enough to have guts" and "what planet am i on?" so i aint risking it

[zealous wing]

usually im in things like the aim trainer or doom or such, so honestly auric HISTG might be the right speed

[royal totem]

i played mortis trials today hexis

and dare i say

i actually had fun

[zealous wing]

normally today actually would be a day for it, since its my spouse's birthday, but he's on painkillers, and since his back is broken and he's gonna be recovering for a while, its off the table

and, im not surprised, mortis is fun as hell

[royal totem]

idk people i know normally avoid mortis

[zealous wing]

from what i understand, they avoid it because a) they only tried it when it first came out and was bad, or b) they dont like the wave pauses being so long and find those few seconds unbearably boring

[royal totem]

huh

anyways

i need to play more mortis for penances

so i guess i'll be doing some of that some other time

[hazy birch]

i tried mortis once

[zealous wing]

same, honestly, but its more fun with a full group than with randoms. its better now though that the bots dont steal the medicae by wave 3

[hazy birch]

https://tenor.com/view/just-once-michael-bryce-ryan-reynolds-the-hitmans-wifes-bodyguard-one-time-only-gif-21259947

[royal totem]

i DO feel though

thammer+cshotgun+daggers is a bad combination for mortis

maybe i exchange knives for fire grenades

[zealous wing]

having issues with horde build up?

[royal totem]

yeah

[hazy birch]

i think builds like yours are best suited to premades

just cuz you can slot people in to just smash hordes to make it so u dont even have to worry about it

[zealous wing]

the problem is nemui thinks none of us like playing with them

[royal totem]

i had a game in havoc earlier that went so badly i needed to play mortis instead

[zealous wing]

thats just havoc honestly

[royal totem]

it was mercantile and the fcking veteran died without making it out of the room you pick up cypher idents from

[zealous wing]

ooof

[royal totem]

cuz he just decided he'd have a shooting match with the rest of the enemies in there for no reason

[zealous wing]

to be fair

you should clear the room before you open the door

but if the door is open

you move

[royal totem]

i didn't open it

[zealous wing]

it depends how much was in there

[royal totem]

psyker did and sped out

not too much. 3 or 4 little shooters

[zealous wing]

im guessing you needed the vet like, right after

[royal totem]

but he managed to die anyways cuz i think a trapper spawned and netted him or something? not 100% sure.

yeah we did

[zealous wing]

classic havoc

"oh your boss DPS died? heres 3"

[royal totem]

well boss DPS wasn't the problem

we had an arb that was a backline arb

even though he was dogless with shock mines

which i was playing prayer zealot and uhhh yeah there's that

i could write more pages about what went wrong. some of it is undoubtedly my fault but yea

[zealous wing]

was the psyker on bubble or shriek?

[royal totem]

bubble

inferno bubble

honestly it was rot armor and rot armor just started piling up and then death

[zealous wing]

the bubble is less a shield, and more a marker on where to be. depending on events, if they ended up way off on their own, and left the two of you behind to deal with something, that would be on them

sometimes players dont realise the shield is a collection point of the team, and instead only use it for defense

meaning, it might not be up as often as it should be

but, if you decided to move away from the bubble, to go grab a stim or such, then that would be on you if thats what got you

other than that, too many potential variables

sometimes, the havoc ai director just hates us all

[royal totem]

idk. either way it just all went to shit really fast

[plucky flax]

Go again

[half iron]

psyk more

[brazen warren]

what are our "fuck those crushers in particular" options, I got: FS, FGS, DS and handcannon, bolt pistol, lighting stave, void strike stave

are there more or am I mostly there?

grumbling over getting crusher spammed in the event right now

[hazy birch]

i got no issues. but if im playing with him id rather be playin somethin like my flamer psyker if he goin that zealot build lol

at least i know one person on the team got decent horde clear

[zealous wing]

inferno stave with a force weapon with uncanny

[hazy birch]

last time i was on my arbites and his horde game aint that strong

[brazen warren]

all in damage or brittleness debuffing

on the flame stave

I find the flame stave doesnt cook cushers to much

[zealous wing]

normal everyday blessings as normal havoc asks

[zealous wing]

by itself, no, HOWEVER

[hazy birch]

ppl swear it does. but i think its one of them aoe things where if its a pack, u can actually do significant overall dps over time

but i dont enjoy fighting crushers with a flamer

[zealous wing]

this is a clip of dom using a normal havoc stave with a deimos with uncanny

[brazen warren]

kinda in the same boat, its good for overall dps I wont argue that at all

[hazy birch]

yea i run deimos on flamer to deal with crushers

[zealous wing]

the uncanny stacks are vital to crusher DPS

[brazen warren]

but my rando's are not able to kite with any brain power so they get slapped if I take this long to kill crushers

ah, the rending buff got it

[zealous wing]

ye

[royal totem]

arbites horde game is fine lmao

[hazy birch]

thought rending was shit

[zealous wing]

gives the flames that tasty bonus

[royal totem]

it's respectable

i mean, not the best

[zealous wing]

the rending talent is useless

[brazen warren]

into crusher spam its got value

[zealous wing]

the rending on the sword should always already be there

[brazen warren]

not the talent, the stat itelf

[hazy birch]

its okay. but its not going to make up for 2 morons constantly being dead and 1 guy thats only capable of nuking bosses lol

[zealous wing]

uncanny on deimos is like unstable power on FGS

a must have

[royal totem]

ok fair yeah. i mean i can also hit crushers very hard lol

[hazy birch]

flamer psyker can put out enough horde clear to counteract that deficit a bit

[royal totem]

anything smaller than a mauler i don't deal too well with though

[hazy birch]

yea and thats the thing, if u got a group that can deal with everything else, that anti-big guy build is going to be amazing

[zealous wing]

im not saying the inferno psyker should BE the one dealing with crushers, but you absolutely can

[hazy birch]

cuz none of my builds do amazing vs crushers

my ogryn does alright

[wind spruce]

also why quietude when you're sitting in warp unbound 75% plus of the time you're in combat?

[royal totem]

most of the time i actually don't play infiltrate btw

[zealous wing]

i think because it still counts the peril gen

[royal totem]

i actually have to trust the team to play infiltrate

[wind spruce]

nah i just tested it

[zealous wing]

i vaguely remember the conversation

idk who said it or when

[hazy birch]

yea its a niche type thing. sounds fun but also sounds like brain rot if nobody else can clear a horde

[wind spruce]

it used to count peril at max or peril quelled by talents at 0%

i cant remember exactly

[brazen warren]

been running gunker and it feels like pounding my head into a wall with that much crusher mass

just, a full clip of hand cannon to maybe kill 1 crusher fml

[zealous wing]

with gunker i suppose FGS is your best bet

[brazen warren]

everything else is trash into them

[zealous wing]

shouldnt be shooting as crusher with a gun as a psyker

[brazen warren]

on the gun side that is

[royal totem]

i mean i GUESS i could go thammer+flamer+knives

[hazy birch]

because of that i tend to build everything i play at least capable of dealing with evrything to some degree. and because of that they dont do very well against anything. curse of mediocrity

[royal totem]

but that build has 0 mobility

[zealous wing]

the thammer horde clear isnt horrible, but, it could be better

[brazen warren]

if guaranteed crit + SG + headshot 3.6k damage on a crusher

about half its hp

[royal totem]

depends on where and size of horde imo

[brazen warren]

but again, inconsistent so you got me there

[hazy birch]

i havent played it much but ive tinkered with it and its clear seems "servicable"

versus something like a FGS that has amazing melee clear

[wind spruce]

best bet is duelling sword, best bet if you enjoy fun is the FGS

[royal totem]

like it's ok but for a giant hammer it......kinda doesn't feel impressive or anything

[zealous wing]

pretty much, it functions, unless its a constant swarm at a bad solo point in a clutch

it'll let you move, thats usually plenty, in a good match

[royal totem]

but honestly like it does a better job bonking ragers and such or crushers in a horde than clearing all the poxwalkers

[zealous wing]

ironhelm clear was much nicer but the sprint-cancelling-the-heavy-attack bug is too annoying to forgive

[royal totem]

what's the bug? i never tried it

[zealous wing]

h2 gets canceled if you release LMB while holding sprint

[royal totem]

wat?

[zealous wing]

heavy 2

[royal totem]

that sounds annoying af

[zealous wing]

yes

very

it just, canceled on me

:(

did not get the bonk

a very frustrating match

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/5kOnQz
@zealous wing

[royal totem]

what a stupid bug

[brazen warren]

fgs time

[wind spruce]

@ripe obsidian UPDATE YOUR GUIDE BOIOOO

[hazy birch]

i need a mod that prevents me from joining in progress games

[rain wren]

Lol

If only

[ripe obsidian]

FOR WHAT

[zealous wing]

its not as bad as when you join a game within like, 20s of it starting, but, ive had desired campaign missions throw me literally into the middle of the end event, tis annoying

[hazy birch]

always spawn into a pack of crushers with 25% hp, 1 wound and half ammo

[ripe obsidian]

WHAT AM I MISSING

[zealous wing]

guess it got patched

[ripe obsidian]

RIP

[royal totem]

i've had games where i spawned at end event

and it's glorious

all the rewards with 0 effort

[zealous wing]

its fine normally

[ripe obsidian]

I did say it might get removed.

[zealous wing]

but, i was wanting the campaign

[royal totem]

by the way

the worst part about havoc is my favorite mission isn't in the havoc pool and never will be

[zealous wing]

train

:(

[hazy birch]

does empowered psionics do anything for passive BB?

[zealous wing]

yes

[wind spruce]

lucky or else there would have been trub trub

[hazy birch]

cuz i really, really feel like shit running siphon

[royal totem]

train is my favorite mission in the game

[wind spruce]

had it actually been tested since the latest rework @ripe obsidian ?

[zealous wing]

with what ability, and what difficulty?

[ripe obsidian]

yeah, tested it right after the tree change

[hazy birch]

bubble, any difficulty

[zealous wing]

lower densities tend to make various things feel underwhelming

ah

[hazy birch]

the idea of losing my stacks for using my ability pisses me off