psyker-class

[wraith sphinx]

It is indeed really nice

I don't have the ainz clip on hand but doing the combo on crusher heads is peak

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike?

[wraith sphinx]

H1 L2 L3, the only melee combo I bothered to leadn

Learn*

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[verbal thistle]

I have it somewhere

[brazen warren]

had a guy in that match using the obscurus and was cancelling the l1 over and over without an other inputs visually, not sure how he was doing it. I thought you had to block to animation cancel, maybe he was doing a sprint input after each swing?

seemed to fast of an input

[patent mango]

qq cancel

[verbal thistle]

you sure he was using obscurus?

[ripe obsidian]

I am pleased to see it in H40. I haven't had success with it. Seems like you're using it kinda like gunker would a gun?

[verbal thistle]

deimos has a popular light attack macro

[patent mango]

oh yeh thats probably deimos wasnt it

[ripe obsidian]

What difficulty and server? Was it Dorfan?

[verbal thistle]

I see the deimos macro on every psyker using so far

[weary idol]

1000 more buffs to gun psyker

Why is the pick rate not going up?- Fatshark probably

[ripe obsidian]

I use Deimos and don't macro. D:

[brazen warren]

ah yeah he was weapon swapping between every hit so fast that it had to be a macro

in the meatgrinder and thats how it seems to work

lame

[ripe obsidian]

If it was Dorfan, dude only uses macros

[brazen warren]

was some guy named first iirc

[ripe obsidian]

Ah, dunno them

[bright summit]

I weapon swap most attacks on ek but I don't cheat and I do it with my fingies

[patent mango]

the idea of a guy that has every single button he presses activate a macro is kinda funny

[strong gulch]

not real psyker

[marble crater]

Fun fact, in German Dorfan means Village at

[ripe obsidian]

Too hard for my old bones

[patent mango]

this video dont worky for me...

[strong gulch]

too hard for these old brains

[bright summit]

It doesn't matter that much, qqs are a side grade on ek anyways

[strong gulch]

even though I do accidentally qq ek a fair bit

[bright summit]

Coming from vt2 it's just some nice tech

[hallow finch]

What to dump on void staff?

[verbal thistle]

blast

[bright summit]

You can't qq inferno and I dislike sprint cancel so it's actually the worst staff ever

[royal totem]

potato are you playing today?

[hallow finch]

What

[strong gulch]

voidblast = WR

voidstrike = blast radius

[bright summit]

Every other staff has a qq on M2 that you can do if ur like a techy player

[weary idol]

inferno does it with M1

[bright summit]

Yeah I said I dislike the m1 one

[weary idol]

It is definitely the one staff I will report people for qq macroing on

Probably won't do anything

But god I can hope

[summer prairie]

you can't qq m1

the swap time is too long

maybe blitz cancel? I don't remember if I tried

[bright summit]

Sprint cancel works on M1 no

[summer prairie]

yes

[bright summit]

Yah

[summer prairie]

I wonder how many bb users do the reverse blitz cancel, maybe one overall

[bright summit]

The one for the end lag of bb?

[summer prairie]

yes

[bright summit]

I do it sometimes

[ripe obsidian]

Can you look at my Voidstrike builds to see if they're any good, @verbal thistle? I want to make sure I am giving people good info.

[weary idol]

look @modest perch

there are some weapons that people use macros on to combat RSI

so they don't ruin their wrists/fingers

Inferno is not one of those wepons

Every single person that QQ macros the inferno is doing it to exploit uncanny strike with blaze away stacks

[ripe obsidian]

I made a macro for bleed FGS special. Used it for two games. It was dumb.

[weary idol]

Something that isn't normally practical for a human to do or maintain for an entire mission

[weary idol]

You don't even really need to macro that it's easy enough to do manually

[ripe obsidian]

I know.

[bright summit]

If you want to combat rsi use autoswing and autofire

[ripe obsidian]

I was literally just holding the macro the entire game

Like, nothing except bleed fgs special

It was just a premade auric game

[patent mango]

i cant believe they expect us to click every shot for mk2 laspistol

[royal totem]

Skitarius

[bright summit]

I'm a demon and I click for every shot i fire for ek

[ripe obsidian]

One day your bones will grow old, too

[cosmic sigil]

I macro that shit all the time

And I am a taxe user

I just can't

[bright summit]

I'm conditioning them to be strong

[bright summit]

I don't think that can be considered as a macro

[verbal thistle]

I can after this run

[bright summit]

Its just chaining 1 singular input and macros are usually a sequence of inputs like m1 -> qq which is 3 button presses

[hallow finch]

Build for voidblast? I've seen some dude absolutely mangling everything with it and I couldnt get him to share

[ripe obsidian]

Time takes its scythe to all people.

[patent mango]

macro? just get da mod

[cosmic sigil]

I use skit

For that purpose

[patent mango]

idek how that works

[ripe obsidian]

I realized I was getting old when I was legitimately excited to get nice sheets for Christmas.

[bright summit]

Also idr if u put it already but another point for assail on staff Scriers is how kf doesn't work during wu

[cosmic sigil]

It's just keep swinging and full auto in a package with the possibility to program combos

[ripe obsidian]

I can note that down

[cosmic sigil]

You can't do qq cancel with it tho

[bright summit]

Tempted to nag you to put more of my builds on there but I've fully crossed the line and it's no longer a "potentially good build if you know how to play" and it's so just me intentionally making underpowered combos to have fun

Flurry + surge ek <3

Rending + surge trauma <3

[bitter zodiac]

is there some sort of group ritual planned to make this years free update contain new psyker staves?

[weary idol]

cringe how about new veteran guns instead

[bright summit]

What if they deleted darktide

[bitter zodiac]

if its power fist, hell gun, or grenade launcher I'll take it lol

[strong gulch]

check build bonanza in the pins. Fire VB with shriek. The one with Blazing spirit.

[strong gulch]

I have no hope of ever getting new staves. No new staff since the game launched.

[acoustic jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-metal-gear-solid-metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-gif-26600216

[patent mango]

maybe if we sacrificed sire melk

[bitter zodiac]

just because he's useless doesn't mean he needs to die

they should make him an NPC teammate

put him on the front lines

[patent mango]

no i just hate him

[bitter zodiac]

oh

but he's my curio dispensor when new classes drop

[acoustic jacinth]

We need a wooden wizard stick. Old oak with neat lines and circles

[bitter zodiac]

what else am I gonna spend my 50,000 melk bucks on

[patent mango]

melk has been doing nothing but complain for 3 years to me

i think thats enough

[bitter zodiac]

we don't even have all of Siennas staves yet

[bitter zodiac]

i forget they hate certain personalities

[patent mango]

our staves dont come close to how good sienna staves are

[acoustic jacinth]

I spent this week's grocery money on krieg

[bright summit]

????

[acoustic jacinth]

True

[patent mango]

corus is awesome

[bitter zodiac]

oo whatchya get

[patent mango]

shotgun staff.... 🔥

[bright summit]

Yeah they are but in no world can you argue that any psyker staff is weaker than the sienna ones imo

[patent mango]

oh hte javelins are also really hecking cool

ohi meant like quality or fun to use i guess

[bright summit]

Like vs would kill everything in vt2

[weary idol]

I think it'd be neat if sire melk had like

[bright summit]

That is true I miss beam and bolt

[magic burrow]

a staff that summons tinier versions of you that just look like you but smaller and with high pitched voices

[bitter zodiac]

just so much more power creep in darktide

[patent mango]

cause sienna staves are pretty hecking cool

[weary idol]

some of the super old commissary cosmetics in his shop

[bitter zodiac]

they are

[acoustic jacinth]

Well. For one i got the current veteran. I plan to complete my collection when the 143rd shows their face again. As for irl, i plan to order a krieg commissar soon

[weary idol]

or recolors for ones you've already bought

something

[patent mango]

meanwhile in dt the staves are uh

like 4/10

[weary idol]

he's totally best buds with Hallowette right?

[bright summit]

Its a big downgrade but the movement makes it passable

[acoustic jacinth]

Also, that pfp artstyle reminds me of Cowboy Bebop

[bitter zodiac]

a friend of mine got the game and got filtered out of psyker trying to use the trauma staff

[patent mango]

oof

[bright summit]

Beam would fit in dt very well though

[weary idol]

certified psyker moment

all staves are complete trash until you're max level and have a good one

[bitter zodiac]

mine? It's Blue from Wolfs Rain

[patent mango]

beam was also pretty cool

[acoustic jacinth]

I see, similar style then

[patent mango]

it did like 3 things

[bitter zodiac]

agree.

god I want a beam staff

[magic burrow]

I could never figure out the trauma staff. It's so powerful, but in my cold dead hands it's trash.

[patent mango]

how come staves in this game a re less in depth than beam staff anyways

[bright summit]

M1 m2 burst snipe is so good

[patent mango]

yeaa

[bright summit]

Tbf beam is a high bar it's definitely one of the most well designed and dynamic weapons

[bitter zodiac]

with good builds in high peril it throws things around and either sets it all on fire or strips its armor

[patent mango]

lol

[bitter zodiac]

also great for self defence as you can cast rapidly at your feet

[bright summit]

Like bolt is also great but all of its depth is on the m2

[patent mango]

i mean i liked beam coruscation and bolt

honestly its less about the gameplay of bolt

and that its just so peak.... fire javelin...

i never used sou lstealer staff enough

[bright summit]

Bolt is like insanely high ceiling esp in modded

[patent mango]

wait did

sienna got a staff before psyker did

[magic burrow]

I like Voidstrike, but it seems like no one uses it at high levels. Does it drop off that hard?

[weary idol]

bolt staff but it's lightning spears instead when fatshark

[weary idol]

yeah

[bitter zodiac]

it does compared to the other staff

[bright summit]

Yah

[patent mango]

oh my god imagine

[bitter zodiac]

fine for Auric

[bright summit]

Define high level

[patent mango]

havoc

[bitter zodiac]

I would not bring it on certain modifiers above havoc 26

but im no expert with it

[magic burrow]

I define high level as people who are more knowledgable and better than me, which is pretty much everyone

[bright summit]

Its not bad it's just 1) every other staff is grossly overpowered while vs is just good 2) people can't play it well it's hard to play

[bitter zodiac]

how do you feel about Surge staff?

is there something I don't know that puts it up there with fire and trauma?

other than left click spam I suppose

[weary idol]

stupid high crit chance, nukes flak/maniacs

[bright summit]

Different niche than fire and trauma, insane staff nonetheless

[patent mango]

i keep forgetting surge is m1 spam nowadays

[weary idol]

builds a FUCKTON of peril

[magic burrow]

I made my Psyker a manlet, and when I shoot it at my eyelevel it takes the heads off all the shambling trash mobs

[weary idol]

so you can spam shout out the wazoo with it

[patent mango]

tiny psyker meta cause its funny

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, sadly.

[bright summit]

This is good and the m2 is also good for util and you play it to delete every ranged enemy and specials off the map, aka if ur good at vet you should like flourish on ek

[patent mango]

voidstrike is one of the more well made staves too...

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike has very bad cleave, a weirdly long charge time, and moderate damage

[strong gulch]

My partner. His is tiny. He call is build "Short King (Sharpest Blunt)"

[bitter zodiac]

against carapace ja

[bright summit]

The problem with ek is its not bullshit enough and havoc requires bullshit to beat bullshit

It carries if you can play it good and your comp can handle armor pressure then it carries games but that's a pretty high bar for most people so it's a very tentative if

[ripe obsidian]

It is my favorite. All I use in non-Havoc

[patent mango]

i wish it was a bit better...

[bitter zodiac]

I switched to assail / bubble / melee pskyer at some point and find it hard to get back into staves honestly

[ripe obsidian]

As do I

[bitter zodiac]

sometimes i run it with shriek instead

[patent mango]

lemme overcharge the projectile into a bfg one...

the truth nuke

[ripe obsidian]

It is called bfg in the code

[patent mango]

fr? sadly aint there

[bright summit]

It needs to not be cleave capped imo, it's the only staff that deserves infinite cleave only inhibited by armor with its risk vs reward factor

[zinc harbor]

is there like a "best build" ?

[bitter zodiac]

rats trauma psyker maybe

but not best for everyone

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/6a065543d8cce32f5a32430068ecac49501f498f/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/force_staffs/settings_templates/force_staff_damage_profile_templates.lua#L94

[patent mango]

idk how i feel about more infinite cleave

[zinc harbor]

where is this at

[patent mango]

lmao

it do be true

[bright summit]

As in cleave cap the 2 staves that has them currently

[bitter zodiac]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df8cf62-74bb-407a-b6ab-b942ad63597d/the-best-psyker-build-rats-trauma-psyker

[zinc harbor]

thx

[bitter zodiac]

the author is expecting you to be able to manage peril and do a lot of tricky movement / animation cancels to run this at the level they're talking about

[bright summit]

And I'm only advocating for like pseudo infinite it'll be blocked on armor still imo

[zinc harbor]

oh great lol

[bright summit]

Its a bubble build technically you don't have to do all that for the output

As per most bubble builds

[bitter zodiac]

true but if you're not going to do all the extra chicanery you would probably get more out of an easier build

[bright summit]

Then play inferno bubble lol

[zinc harbor]

this seems aids lmao

[bitter zodiac]

I agree

[strong gulch]

I don't rec rat's build for most people. Check build bonanza in the pins.

[bitter zodiac]

I just put it forward as potentially the best build

[ripe obsidian]

Rat is a very good player with a very unique playstyle

[marble crater]

There is no such thing as a best build

[ripe obsidian]

Is not for everyone

[royal totem]

Rat's build reads like a skaven wrote it

[languid cipher]

how does he play to be so unique?

[bitter zodiac]

best build depends on team comp, difficulty, modifiers

[bright summit]

Still depends on comp

[ripe obsidian]

The most meta build is inferno + Bubble in havoc. Look at my pinned build guide for deeper information

[bitter zodiac]

i know

[zinc harbor]

alr

[bright summit]

Movement/techy player

[marble crater]

Play like you try to break your fingers

[ripe obsidian]

Scurrying is the word he uses, I believe.

[languid cipher]

oh, sounds fun to see, painful to try and replicate

[bright summit]

Least micro intensive Scriers ek build

[ripe obsidian]

Emphasis on movement over all else and short trauma staff charges

[bright summit]

Short charge is really good that I agree with

Been playing some rending + surge trauma

[bitter zodiac]

great to see

i usually assume if there is another psyker they will have fire

so i like to keep rending builds when possibl

[strong gulch]

Rat does qq cancel to do fast small blasts and SG. Must be very mobile.

[royal totem]

I respect Rat but his brain works faster than mine can

[languid cipher]

does he have a yt channel or somewhere I can see his gameplay?

[bitter zodiac]

careful, say his name three times and you may summon him

[languid cipher]

i mean is he "theRat0CE"?

[strong gulch]

There a vid link at the bottom of his build.

[languid cipher]

couple of different channels with pop up when searching darktide and rat

[strong gulch]

go to his build linked above

vid at the bottom

[languid cipher]

alr, thank

[plucky flax]

Best psyker World i heard

[weary crane]

i completely overlooked the force sword buffs

this is great

[viral estuary]

does rending work with flame staff?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

Which source of rending and for what enemy type?

To determine if it's worth it.

[royal totem]

I heard Unsanctioned is 😛

[plucky flax]

No that's a fraud

[ripe obsidian]

UnsanctionedPsyker is just cheat mods pretending to be a person

[royal totem]

Are you playing tnight Six?

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe

What time?

[royal totem]

Idk was just curious

[willow kernel]

chat is the voidstrike staff that bad

[royal totem]

Yes

[willow kernel]

dammit

[royal totem]

Its fine in auric and below

[willow kernel]

just not havok?

[royal totem]

Yeah

[willow kernel]

idk ive had fun with it, I just noticed it gets outmatched reaaally bad in higher difficulties

[ripe obsidian]

Bad in Havoc. Good in Auric and below.

[royal totem]

Well i guess below havoc 15 ish you can do anything

[ripe obsidian]

Primary issues: low cleave (and Havoc enemies have 270% hitmass), long charge time, and difficult to one-bop elites with the HP increases

[willow kernel]

thats so unfortunate

[verbal thistle]

its a good alternate anti special staff if you dont want to run EK

a good combo for a melee focus build

since with melee you are stacking crit (usually with gaze) surge gets alot of value

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz is also the best Psyker here.

[verbal thistle]

so EK and strike are good secondaries

[ripe obsidian]

Things Ainz can do are not things the average doofus like me can do

[verbal thistle]

I was thinking of running nexus surge trauma on my next melee build

just for rotten armor packs

[strong gulch]

I agree with what Ainz said.

[willow kernel]

thanks chat

[strong gulch]

But ye, if you're good enough or have a certain comp, you can use anything.

But meta picks are meta for a reason.

[willow kernel]

I'll force the voidstrike until I feel i cant do anything anymore

[graceful arch]

Limit testing is how you get better at the game.

[strong gulch]

Free me

[sinful peak]

wait I'm goated

[weary crane]

fastest uncanny time

Is the cosmetic in the shop the best force sword one

I swear I've seen better ones

[bright summit]

I've ran this pre patch this is good

You can go either shriek or Scriers, you lose out the crit but your m2 is now insane

Combos nicely into melee

All the other staves have these fun combos of blessings except inferno it's tragic

[long saddle]

I prefer this

but I have both

[weary crane]

Interesting

Are there any illisi ones

[long saddle]

this I think?

[weary crane]

Ah that's pretty mid

[long saddle]

ye it's an early one I think

[weary crane]

I like the Mortis illisi skin but you can't put it on the other ones

[long saddle]

oh I didn't know mortis had mark specific ones

mortis thammer is prob my fav out of those

[weary crane]

It has a skin of each of the infantry autogun variants which is cool

but this looks great

[long saddle]

ye I knew about autogun from when i changed mark so I assumed it was for all

[jovial juniper]

To pivot on the recent VoidSTRIKE talk

[long saddle]

this fgs is prob one of my fav weapon skin tho

[jovial juniper]

I have to try it on the current event

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[jovial juniper]

Is destroy still winning ?

[weary crane]

Yeah it works with the white armour they did too

[radiant frigate]

it's epic with the loyalist 6th and white legplates from the slopshop

[long saddle]

I didn't get the armor during that rotation, it was p early after I had started playing and I only got the fgs and staff skin from then

[weary crane]

this is my set

[radiant frigate]

like this but with the correct fgs skin https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313466552032428063/image.png?ex=69034b8d&is=6901fa0d&hm=672db2fb024498e20bbac613c6976f36fbb7abe8bc8fb106def4776f519ea48c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=611&height=967

[weary crane]

its one of the first cosmetics to be released

they did a black version but this is OG

[patent mango]

thank god the wep customization mod is less performance impactful nowadays

[exotic crane]

does Warp Expenditure stack? I don't see the buff at all

[hazy birch]

My psyker looks like absolute trailer trash. By design

Got the Tekken hair cut and everything

[tulip kettle]

did kats pc load darktide without crashing for this screenshot?!?

[radiant frigate]

no it is an older screenshot

if it was fresh then it would have the correct fgs skin

[solid pond]

does it double hit the ground AoE?

[verbal thistle]

only left click

[solid pond]

sad

[strong gulch]

I've been think about running surge nexus vb. Need to LMB more in havocs anyways.

[cosmic sigil]

Is it in rotation?

[long saddle]

no, last time was in feb or so

[cosmic sigil]

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Icefall Shard was available on Feb 1st; I think that was the first day it was out. It was the first time a FGS skin was out in the slop shop.

I have a vid of the skin that I think I posted on the day the skin dropped.

[cosmic sigil]

First and last

[strong gulch]

There was a shitty red one tho.

[cosmic sigil]

Ohhh you're right

[strong gulch]

That looked like the free ones

[cosmic sigil]

Did they ever give a skin to the relic blade?

[strong gulch]

I can't beleive they didn't give us a second real skin yet.

There are the ordo shop ones that released kinda not too long ago and the brighter red penance ones that all weapons (maybe not arby) should have.

IDK if relic got a slop shop skin.

[bright summit]

ITS REALLY GOOD IVE BEEN SAYING THIS

Worse at ek at ranged sniping but better util from the m2s

[strong gulch]

Maybe we are finally listening lmao.

[bright summit]

You can lean in to either ek heavy or trauma heavy play style depending on the enemy composition

Very flexible

[strong gulch]

I don't like flurry on on VB. Even when I am doing rendi VB because there is another psyker doig inferno, I still run nexus.

[bright summit]

I know it's good pre patch I gotta revisit it sometime I've been running other goofy stuff

Rending surge trauma :>

[strong gulch]

lmao

rendi surge SG

[bright summit]

With scriers it's not bad yeah

Snipe during sg blast during wu

[strong gulch]

I have done SG VB. Not recently tho.

WU was still bugged.

Had good EE uptime even with RMB.

[bright summit]

You literally can't make trauma or ek bad just build them whatever

[strong gulch]

blast radius dump with infested and terrible barrage

psykers out in the wild are... wild

[bright summit]

Maybe there is 1 way to build it wrong

Why do u need terrifying barrage m1 has one of it not the best suppression in the game

[kind jay]

assert dominance

[long saddle]

I prefer SG trauma

[strong gulch]

I was using terrible barrage before the crafting update and M1 talents for LMB spam as an unhinged way to cope with brunt and hadron fecking me on repeat.

supress some melee and all ranged as I crashed out

[ripe obsidian]

It's almost Halloween.

It's thematic.

[rigid sky]

been using the mark 8 fgs for a while now

just gave the 6 a try in the meat grinder

it feels like it's just outright better?

apart from combo getting disrupted if you end up eating a ministun

It's LLLH loop and H loop right?

[ripe obsidian]

8 is better horde clear, 6 is better everything else

[rigid sky]

it feels like they're pretty close in both horde and single

well, 6 is surely significantly better enough for bosses at least

crushers with SG and DD die to 2 overheads from 8 usually anyway

[ripe obsidian]

I think the best horde combo for 6 is LL into block cancel or swap cancel

[rigid sky]

so the stab is not so important

but having the stab in the H combo for bosses is nice

[ripe obsidian]

Personally, I just spam lights because I am lazy

[rigid sky]

LLLH is weaker?

[strong gulch]

Ye. swap cancel is better but block cancel is easier to do

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it has lower DPS overall

Not by too much

[strong gulch]

There is an attack right after swap and before L1 that is better than lights.

[rigid sky]

since I'm running assail and MM, it makes sense to take the 6 then

[strong gulch]

Also 4 hits in you likely need to block or dodge anyways

[kind jay]

i prefer 8 myself. plus im always force pushing stuff so i stab a lot too

[rigid sky]

maybe take unstable peril instead of shred or riposte

idk

[strong gulch]

unstable + crit blessing is what most take

[rigid sky]

riposte then since I'm swapping a bunch

shred's gonna fall off

[strong gulch]

while true

less swapping on elites

and monsters

[rigid sky]

Nah, elites die in 2 swings anyway

and I'm likely to swap to quickly shoot a blueberry at midrange after any given elite kill

[strong gulch]

elites AND MONSTERS

but either is good

[rigid sky]

vraks 5 eats monsters too :)

but even so, will still ideally get riposte triggers anyway

20% regardless

[strong gulch]

Ye. If you they aren't CCd or you have aggro

[ripe obsidian]

Burgles would prefer if you let them eat the vraks

[rigid sky]

I'm not taking this build to havoc anyway

so I'm able to be greedy with ammo

I'll be getting riposte triggers from the other shit

it's never only a boss

and if it is, it's not a threat

[royal totem]

somebody's down-->i activate prayer hoping they'll get the person up-->team decides to fight the staggered crusher and not get the person up--->person dies

[weary idol]

yeah

it's why when somebody is down you should do something about it

always assume that if you personally are not doing something to fix a problem then nobody is

[kind jay]

this is why 3x revive is super goated

[strong gulch]

ye

it got a much needed buff

[raw garnet]

Bystander syndrome is terrible in this game sometimes

[ripe obsidian]

I have swapped my smol toughness nodes for revive speed

[kind jay]

its fast enough to revive if you start right after a sniper shot (just before the silent crusher materializes behind you already in overhead animation)

[ripe obsidian]

So now I have 3x cdr, 3x gunner resist, 3x revive

[strong gulch]

A lot of the time going for the res is not great, but ignoring the opportunity when booking is going off is crap.

[weary idol]

yeah why do you think chorus is so popular

optimized "hope someone else will do it" gameplay

[ripe obsidian]

That's why I play Inferno. I do it all myself. :D

Darktide is a single player game, right?

[kind jay]

statistically if i go down so does everyone else, so kinda

[raw garnet]

I use chorus because I want to encourage people to do the revive like okay this guy is down I rush in with book

....

....

Okay book is done and he's still down

[rigid sky]

chorus is doing something about it

reviving is best done if it's 2 people clearing space and the third doing the revive

[weary idol]

no it isn't

[rigid sky]

it's just you do need somebody actually doing the revive bit

[weary idol]

it's putting your hands up in the air and not even trying and saying "Welp I've done all I can do" when nothing gets done

[ripe obsidian]

I had a zealot who could revive someone in one pulse of book, since they had 3x revive speed and the talent. Something like a 1.8 second revive time. Was a hero.

[rigid sky]

how is it lmao

it's being the support for the revive

rather than the revive itself

[raw garnet]

Disagree. If someone was overheaded by a crusher or swamped by ragers book is an insta fuck off and res if people know what they're doing

[weary idol]

you know...good support playstyles can do both

like VoC

or a trauma psyker

[raw garnet]

Book has other uses as well

[weary idol]

or pick your flavor of ogryn

[kind jay]

rocky road

[rigid sky]

book just fits nicely in my tac axe bolter build

[weary idol]

chorus is uniquely shit at revives compared to all "support" abilities other than like

Nuncio Aquila

[rigid sky]

it doesn't really need any of the other abilities

it works for it

[weary idol]

Just because it requires someone else to do it

[raw garnet]

Honestly I do see your point

I just don't really enjoy the charge and I'm not good enough yet to use shroud field effectively I feel

[royal totem]

I AM doing something about it. i'm praying so there's no risk for others to pick them up.

[raw garnet]

Yeah but his point was that other abilities can do that without sacrificing your weapon to channel the ability

Which is true

[strong gulch]

sending thoughts and prayers

[royal totem]

name the other abilities?

cuz we literally didn't have any other support abilities

[raw garnet]

Voice of command and loyal protector for a start

[royal totem]

like ok maybe it's true other abilities are better for it but we literally didn't have them

like arguing "something else is better" is a dumbass arguement when a team doesn't have them

[raw garnet]

I think book is still good in other areas

It gives you invuln and hard cc

For reviving tho it's not THE option

[royal totem]

we're not arguing whether book is good here. all i'm saying is that we didn't have other options for revive

and in lieu of that, book is the best option

[royal totem]

i'm still thinking of renaming my zealot to ThoughtsAndPrayers

[strong gulch]

Do it.

ThotsAndPrayers is still funny too.

[marble crater]

Go all out, ThotsandPayers

[royal totem]

don't have Thoty enough outfit 😭

[rigid sky]

7 successive staggers is crazy though

with the piss added onto it

chorus is really good, controversial opinion I know

[raw garnet]

I am a book enjoyer you cannot make me stop praying

[rancid wadi]

Lets roll the psyker bonanza wheel

[solid pond]

should've got the skin tight slut suits from a bit ago

probably still in store

[royal totem]

if you can find me an outfit in the store for zealot that would be good, i'll buy it lmao

[solid pond]

for thottery?

[timber cairn]

obscurus blessings/perks?

havent touched it in ages

[royal totem]

yes

[timber cairn]

blazing spirit, obviously 😄 what else?

[solid pond]

deflector

clearly

[wispy bay]

Psyker chat hasn't changed.

[ripe obsidian]

I endeavor to be a constant

[ripe obsidian]

What did you get?

[rancid wadi]

I might go for uhhh a little scriers gaze assail type madness

Might also just put a few basics on the slots like bubble inferno and stuff like that

[opal pulsar]

From when Psyker could have a Bolt Pistol?

[verbal thistle]

crafting update?

[weary idol]

since the weapon released

which was the crafting update I think yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Enjoy. I hope the templates are also helpful if you choose to experiment

[royal totem]

dunno, psyker chat is one of the more sane class chats

[opal pulsar]

Didn't even noticed till now I got it from mission XD

Thanks for the info 🙂

[rancid wadi]

Yes it saved to bookmarks it gonna be my go to now for all psyker related builds

So mucho appreciated my good frog sir

[rigid sky]

I like unstable power and uncanny, if we're talking reals

and carapace/unyielding

it tends to go on my inferno and voidblast builds as a can opener

and I think they cover it where it can contribute the best

[solid pond]

proof?

[royal totem]

dunno, everytime i visit zealot chat though they're talking about some off-the walls thing

[solid pond]

you think you know chats, name every chatter

[solid pond]

yeah zealot chat is unhinged

actual A grade brainrot

[royal totem]

whyy is zealot chat so unhinged though

i don't get it

shouldn't zealots be the most sane cuz religious purity or something?

[raw garnet]

Maybe in literally any other universe but not 40k lol

[solid pond]

lmao

[strong gulch]

Uhhh have you seen American... you know what, that's prob too political.

[solid pond]

rather the opposite

they're not insane because of corruption (unless you count emperor as corruption)

they're cracker jack of their rocker because they simp for that fucker

[royal totem]

._.

[raw garnet]

Indoctrination is a hell of a drug

[royal totem]

though doesn't it seem like at least one zealot personality is going towards Khorne?

[raw garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/its-as-shrimple-as-that-shrimple-clam-grass-jump-gif-25956447

[solid pond]

somewhat

also blinded by blood talent

exists

[solid pond]

if you mean the fanatic with "blood for the emperor, skulls for the golden throne" that is apparently very much a loyalist thing

[raw garnet]

One of the big plot points of 40k is that a lot of the actions of the imperium indirectly contribute to the chaos gods, especially when it's such a warlike society

[solid pond]

well

[royal totem]

it is?????

[solid pond]

thats not hard

and not only the imperium

[weary idol]

the actions of everybody contribute to the chaos gods

[solid pond]

basic things that happen will benefit the Chaos gods

[weary idol]

the chaos gods are like

not even people

[raw garnet]

Do not lore nerd me mf

[solid pond]

because they're both natural like

[weary idol]

they are manifestations of their vices and virtues in the warp

[solid pond]

things

[raw garnet]

I know my shit I was just making a general point so I don't have to type out a paragraph

[solid pond]

and also their specialisation

[raw garnet]

[solid pond]

they're different subclasses

[royal totem]

i don't know my 40k lore too well

[raw garnet]

Basically everything is a complete clusterfuck

[solid pond]

I just listen to isyander and koda while doing other things

can't stand the other lore channels

and im not spending 1 billion dollary doos on books

[acoustic jacinth]

🏴‍☠️

[royal totem]

there. i did it btw. name change

[solid pond]

unfortunate

[acoustic jacinth]

You look like a foreign languages teacher

[raw garnet]

And yeah the reason why is that the imperium doesn't have a unified religious code, many times missionaries will just adopt a culture's beliefs while only changing parts of it to fit the imperial creed

So it's entirely possible for someone to say some shit like that

[royal totem]

LMAO.

[solid pond]

hell, even ships have cultures of their own

[royal totem]

my zealot is in prisoner grab lmao

[acoustic jacinth]

Then again the protrayal of the inquisition in this game is very... lenient

Zealots are the least of our worries

Fucking loner psyker for one

Loose cannon

[raw garnet]

The inquisition is another one of those things that varies wildly because of how much sway an individual Inquisitor has

[acoustic jacinth]

Literal criminal

[raw garnet]

Rogue traders too but not to such an extent

[solid pond]

the same inquisition that has shot Celestine because "she looked like a daemon, smelled like a daemon, probably is a daemon"

[acoustic jacinth]

Yet that same amount of zealous judgement is amiss towards the rejects

[raw garnet]

Katarina just didn't know how to deal with her massive crush imo

[solid pond]

fair enough

[royal totem]

Katarina? Celestine?

[solid pond]

sister of battle squared

[raw garnet]

Katarina greyfax, an "abhor the mutant" style Inquisitor, and saint Celestine, a living saint (basically someone the emperor resurrected and gave incredible power)

They have a book together where greyfax suspects Celestine is not entirely loyal and is going to betray the imperium

[royal totem]

mmmm.......sus

btw does 40k setting hate LGBTQ+?

[solid pond]

[raw garnet]

Not at all! It's actually not even a consideration like you or I would think about it

Like you wouldn't been seen as particularly different for having a same sex partner than you would having an opposite sex one

In the Cain novels, there's a pair of guardswomen in a relationship

[marble crater]

40k sucks for everyone equally

[rigid sky]

I think sexuality's generally de-emphasised due to the dehumanising nature of the 40k milky way

[weary idol]

humanity's pety prejudices extend to religious traiters and xenos not two men/women kissing

[rigid sky]

except orks

orks are having a great time

[weary idol]

and it all sucks ass everywhere

for far worse reasons than assholes existing

[timber cairn]

❤️

just put my celestine together at the weekend actually. gotta paint

[kind jay]

everyones suffering in the 41st millenium, except for this guy

[raw garnet]

Dude is a big fan of fat, give him the wagyu

Give him the 50/50 ground beef

[kind jay]

all the beef

[strong gulch]

@ beef

but not actually @

[strong gulch]

Two people were dead including me because I exploded myself. (what does red mean?? oh..)

Had an arby shoot a sleeping DH multiple times, then was out of ammo when a flamer showed up, and just stood there in fire with a grenade cocked in their hand. When the DH teleported in front of them, they lobbed all of their nades, flailed and was nearly dead, then got caught by mutite and went down. They left the game before dying so the last player alive got griefed by the DH.

RIP

[strong gulch]

Who dis?? Majestic.

[ripe obsidian]

Scarf. Or as I call him, Skorf or Skiffle.

[strong gulch]

Next game tho, there was a good bubble purg user. 3 psykers and all of them were good.

Watching a video and someone said, "I have a plan."

[royal totem]

what the fuck is this story. like every sentence gets worse

[strong gulch]

I was flabbergasted.

I should have reported them. I just blocked them.

[royal totem]

one day i'll play with potato or six again. but the day is not today

[graceful arch]

I am the worst psyker known to man

[royal totem]

i'm still not over being called the r word this morning.

[graceful arch]

(I have blown myself with flame staff.)

[royal totem]

errrr no. you're not allowed to claim that

[ripe obsidian]

I choose to believe that the arrr word is "Pirate"

[strong gulch]

wtf

[royal totem]

i can blow myself up 3 times in a malice game with flame staff

[strong gulch]

I've died in sedition.

As like levle 400

[graceful arch]

Nah you have to leave out the word "up" in that sentence makes it funnier.

[marble crater]

Noob

[graceful arch]

I have walked off the map before the match even began in a havoc 40 game.

[strong gulch]

I was trying to find a vid and saw this in my catalog. lol

[royal totem]

i'm so unskilled i'm not even allowed in havoc 40 though :3

[strong gulch]

Same lmao

why are we like this??

[graceful arch]

Whimsical I am looking at my second monitor holding w at game start.

[royal totem]

every time i'm in power matrix. i'm tempted to walk off the map at the start. i'm tempted to see whether the game artificially stops more of it it'll let me

[graceful arch]

Like I just need to Photoshop my psyker looking at their phone walking off a cliff.

[kind jay]

you know the stairs in commsplex right after the bridge section? the one just before the stairs that go to the medicae? ive tried to skateboard on the railing twice, and both times got knocked off the map by groaners

[graceful arch]

[strong gulch]

The start of mercantile carnival calls to me. I want to jump off the scaffolding at the beginning.

The first time I played that map, a player named Chad did that, was immediately downed, and left.

I think about that every time I play that level now.

[graceful arch]

What a Chad.

[strong gulch]

That's what I said!

[graceful arch]

My first staff was the void blast and I played it with no peril reduction like an idiot.

[strong gulch]

The game set you up.

[graceful arch]

I just kept blowing myself up on repeat.

[strong gulch]

yes

rude game

[royal totem]

I WANT TO DO IT SO MUCH EVERY TIME

[strong gulch]

right?

[graceful arch]

Like man that staff feels so shit when you don't spec into something like ER.

[royal totem]

which is funny cuz like real life i have a huge fear of heights

but not in game

[strong gulch]

It's like in a game and going "Why yes, I can just swim to the bottom of the ocean with no gear."

[graceful arch]

You can void yourself guaranteed by sliding off the fence to the right

I have done it so many times trying to get out of bounds on mercantile

[kind jay]

ok so ive posted this before but i just noticed that as soon as i blow up, zola and rannick make fucking fun of me ROFL

i did not notice before now i feel so bad

put my ass in time out

[strong gulch]

Music gone. Fun over. Think about what you did.

[graceful arch]

Using the m2 on ek hurts so much

Does negative damage

Fs pls buff

[bright summit]

Don't buff just fix it lol

Please don't buff psyker

[royal totem]

i've technically been to the bottom of the ocean (where the bottom isnt that deep though)

[strong gulch]

You know those silly ridiculous dog and cat vids? Those might be us but make it video games.

What a bunch of goofs.

[graceful arch]

It's functioning "as intended".

[strong gulch]

It might not be tho.

Crits

[kind jay]

apparently since i blew my own ass up. hadron installed Windows ME on my staff

[bright summit]

staff with innate crit mult
Looks inside
unique attack doesn't scale with crit

[potent yew]

Intended as the Rubric of Ahriman "functioned"?
Sounds a lot like heresy to me 😉 - you better watch your back before the Inquisition comes around 🙂

[graceful arch]

Poorly designed lol

[patent mango]

electro staff
people use it for the non electrical part of it
actually its goofy to have m1 not be electrical to begin with

[royal totem]

I think i like eviscerator on charge more than thammer

[rigid sky]

Chain axe is also pretty peak

it just feels right

trick is to charge after the revved hit, not before

[royal totem]

Dont think i can remember that lmao

[rigid sky]

tbh doable, you learn what the sweet spot is after a while

especially since you want to stay in the 80-100% range for nexus if you're using spirit

and for rider anyway

[rigid sky]

think of it as a rip

you get the axe chewing into their face, and then you tear it out of them with the charge

[royal totem]

Why charge after the revved hit though. Still confused

[rigid sky]

more damage that way

the revved hit deals the most damage on the final tick, but if you FotF beforehand it only applies the damage bonus to the comparatively weak initial tick

also I think it preserves the damage buff for the next swing too

it's just fucky fatshark mechanics

but this is how to swing them in your favour

[graceful arch]

I have tried the brittle flurry staff and I'm unsure if full charging or half charging gives more value or if you should alternate?

[royal totem]

Nvm thats too hard. Ill just eviscerator lol

Im too smooth brain

[ripe obsidian]

I just had a fucking zealot sprint away from me when I was fighting a captain

which, whatever

I solo'd the captain fine

but he ran far enough ahead to trigger twins

then led them to me and ran away

I can't solo a captain and twins

[royal totem]

😭

Why do ppl do dis

[ripe obsidian]

He was rushing for the revives

instead of killing the half health captain

did not get the revives

[royal totem]

Kill the cap first 🙁

[ripe obsidian]

yeah, that was such a weird choice

[royal totem]

I get letting Six solo twins cuz Six does that all the time but...

[verbal thistle]

imagine being at the med station after the elevator on mercentile soloing the twins, when you turn around the arby is already at the airlock at end event

with 6 bosses alive

hmmm

it was only us 2 alive

Friend and I are planning on releasing a video that shows all boss triggers + respawn zones

only thing that we cant show is twins

the mod we are using doesn't show them

[ripe obsidian]

Only six?

not enough

hm.

I just had perilous combustion betray me

Like 10 shotgunners died as a burster ran past

[graceful arch]

I remember playing havoc with a rag tag group I had both twins aggro and they all somehow collapsed while I was running circles around Rinda.

Like come on you can't all just die when twins show up

Especially when I have most of the aggro on me

[bright summit]

Range twin can be fucked up sometimes

[verbal thistle]

you know what

wall shield can block the mines he throws

propaganda

[weary idol]

I have had instances in mid havocs as gun psyker

Where I kill Rinda entirely on my own

Go to regroup with team

Hey why are they all dead?

[royal totem]

I 1 shot rodin a few days back which was nice

[patent mango]

nurgle fell off millions must 1 shot cultists

[shrewd comet]

hey, how does one avoid the chaos spawn's grab?

like is there a specific way to dodge?

[patent mango]

dodge right

[graceful arch]

@verbal thistle had an illustration if I'm not stupid

[weary idol]

dodge toward them to the right

and pray to god

[patent mango]

if you wanna get used to it creature spawner + latency tester mod

[weary idol]

because even if you do that the hitbox is so dogshit it'll still hit you anyways if it decides to

or like

a poxwalker will materialize there and bodyblock you

[kind jay]

my favorite is when my team watches me become lunch cause they're allergic to getting near it

[royal totem]

Im allergic to it

[royal totem]

Its k ill beacon of purity you after it throws you off

[graceful arch]

It's even funnier when they are like 2 feet away and run away without activating the attack animation of it

I am not salty

[kind jay]

lore accurate rejects i guess

[hazy birch]

after playing so much psyker lately i forgot what arbites was about

it takes so much to kill that guy

[royal totem]

I mean...lore accurately looking at chaos spawn should be making us insane

i think

[royal totem]

idk just takes a fun gunners and i die

[weary idol]

every time I hear one spawn I feel something die inside me

is that what you mean

[royal totem]

they're so hard to one shot

[patent mango]

by this point a chaos spawn is just monday for the rejects tbh

[royal totem]

idk about you but my mondays are burgles

[kind jay]

can't go insane if I'm already insane watching pubs play

[royal totem]

burgles fuck up my day more than chaos spawn

[hazy birch]

?

youre dying to gunners as arbites?

[royal totem]

lol yes

havoc 30+ gunners are brutal especially when the map lets them spawn in places to just shoot down at you

[graceful arch]

I feel like psyker is damn near immortal until you eat a overhead or you get hit with no toughness up

And this is coming from a ex zealot main

[kind jay]

yeah i take no damage until i do

[peak sundial]

psyker is immortal until he dies

[verbal thistle]

if hp goes to 0 you die

[weary idol]

calmly explainin this to DPS and tank players in MMOs

[kind jay]

it's easier to blame the healers. personally i try not to piss off the one person who decides whether i live or die

[patent mango]

imagine needing a tank just dodge everything smh

[lunar coral]

can anyone tell my why everyone thinks psyker is good bc i got it to level 15 to find out it’s trash

[patent mango]

gets better later

[sturdy reef]

get to 30

[lunar coral]

then

[hazy birch]

yea idk about havoc 30. but in general i have my fuzz set to prio ranged and will just sick him on things like snipers and gunners manually

[patent mango]

personally i just like stabbing people with force greatsword

[lunar coral]

can anyone pm a build

[sturdy reef]

check pins

[lunar coral]

how

[strong gulch]

Top right on PC.

Tap the top on mobile. "psyker-class >"

[weary idol]

Somehow the only MMORPG I have ever seen attempt a "dodge tank" was TERA of all things

Gooner game

[patent mango]

scary.......

[royal totem]

wheeeee won a havoc 28

don't think i even downed once

correction. i downed once 🙁

though there was a scary part where i was on one wound left cuz the fucking ogryn stole the medicae when he was 1/3rd health missing 0 wounds

[ripe obsidian]

holy moly I got pounced 7 times in my last mission

What are reflexes? I don't have those

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian @royal totem games?

[royal totem]

i could play

but i'm only playing 1 of 2 builds at the moment

[strong gulch]

np

[royal totem]

i can't decide on what wep to use for my 3rd build 🙁

[strong gulch]

let a randomizer choose

[royal totem]

i shouldn't cuz i'm torn between these two for particular reasons

[strong gulch]

odds = wep 1
evens = wep 2

I rolled a 3.

Go with 2nd weapon.

[ripe obsidian]

I maybe can in a bit. Feel free to run one without me

[strong gulch]

kk

I'm not even in the game yet.

So convene then.

[royal totem]

ok heavy eviscerator it is

eviscerator lets me have actual horde clear so it's really nice

but it sacrifices a degree of boss damage

[strong gulch]

Rude

[royal totem]

Very

[strong gulch]

Apparently it get's to 13% if all of the other things are 80%. If that were warp resist (WR), that would be the lowest I've seen with everything else being genuinely 80 and not missing a roll.

guess I'll keep it for the funny

[ripe obsidian]

Is that from Brunt or the shop?

[strong gulch]

Brunt's Armoury

gambled for greys with ordos

Here's a reminder to removed the map puppy.

[lament glen]

Thank you! Predictably I forgot instantly

[strong gulch]

So did I. lmao

[royal totem]

oh. i forgot lmao

i'm just sitting in the morningstar again ._.

[strong gulch]

I'm weapon gambling, giving cats drugs, and taking a photo of a flower

Catnip flowered.

[royal totem]

that's a pretty cool flower though 😮

i like it

[strong gulch]

Never noticed the purple dots on em before.

[royal totem]

i just got yeeted off the train cuz a mutie grabbed me and poxburster went boom

[sleek lynx]

Well having gotten zealot to 30 and a god roll relic sword to 500 I’ve gotta say: psyker really is the best melee class

[strong gulch]

@royal totem idk if six is gonna be avialble, we can run whatever

[nocturne wasp]

I didn't end up playing until the next morning

1 game of smyker

[candid temple]

relic sword is budget power sword

[proper osprey]

Nah

[nocturne wasp]

Power sword is budget powehammer. Relicsword is budget getsuga tensho

[proper osprey]

You mean fgs?

[sleek lynx]

The entirety of zealot is just budget psyker

[nocturne wasp]

But Zealot throw knife like an edgy badass

[proper osprey]

Zealot is awesome

Sadly I come full circle with the rework

I went back to tac axe piety lol

However

[sleek lynx]

Psyker throws bees

Therefore better

[proper osprey]

I do love ij relic blade

[nocturne wasp]

Bees!

[candid temple]

should I leave it at 45 WR?

[sleek lynx]

Yea why not

[proper osprey]

I think minmaxxing warp res on melee psyker is silly especially with by crack of bone

[lone burrow]

Anyone willing to help me get malleus monstronum? Couldnt get any takers from lfg

[nocturne wasp]

I think I need that too

That's the private only penance, right?

[lone burrow]

yeah

[royal totem]

sorry i was in games since was waiting for Six ._. just got out

[royal totem]

i can help you

[lone burrow]

thanks if steve needs it too we could see if 2 monstrosities spawn in a single mission

[royal totem]

hmmmm if dark communion is on the board highest chance is there

i'll brb bio and then i can help

[nocturne wasp]

Sweet

[strong gulch]

no worries

I fell into a hyperfocus pit while I was waiting.

[royal totem]

alright can inv me

[lone burrow]

Steve what your friend code so we can pull you in

[royal totem]

i assume one of you is bingus bongus? or am i wrong

[nocturne wasp]

How do I find my #?

[lone burrow]

im bingusbongus lol

[royal totem]

Esc>social>

press e for find player

you'll have a code next to your name

[nocturne wasp]

7443803200

What vc?

[royal totem]

uhhh

i can be in 99 if you need me

.......i guess not?

[tulip kettle]

there is a guide in the pins, but its :

blaze away + warp nexus
flak + crit chance/unyielding
warp res / quell speed dump

[strong gulch]

You can search here in discord for things as well. Examples include

in:
from:

Can do date related searches. Can be important if something changed after a update. So thing before x date may not be applicable. But some posts are updated despite the older date.

Part with the pinned builds tho.

[royal totem]

Someday ill play with you again potato

[solid pond]

I don't believe you

[royal totem]

Catmiral never believes me

[ripe obsidian]

got even more pounces

Everything except pounced, I did fine

what is going on

[strong gulch]

no clue

[ripe obsidian]

same in my other one. Fine in every status except doggos

[strong gulch]

I do feel like they've been different.

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe I am having audio issues? Maybe reaction speed issues?

[strong gulch]

I've been encountering them pushing me back into fire.

could be either of those

but other people have been saying that the specials seem different

[ripe obsidian]

overall I did well that game

just

dogs

Apparently I need to do better about that. Ah well.

[plucky flax]

Some unsanctioned guy play pretty good inferno

[acoustic jacinth]

Billions must soulblaze

[long saddle]

why run that tho if you want to perilmaxx

[quartz barn]

But doesnt that guy regularly get carried by a girl from the asian servers that plays with 200+ ping

[hazy birch]

Damn man. Even the bully club/gl ogryn pulled a million damage. Horde density must have been unreal

[obtuse dome]

Rumbler ogryn is cheesy af tho.

No skill required for that

Broken overpowered crutch weapon

[rigid sky]

Is it just me who's struggling to settle on a melee/gunker build that seems right? I want like 35 talent points lol

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a03c7f61-cb55-495b-98a6-1365c5e4334f this is what I've been working with (not sure whether to take FGS 6 or 8, trying the 6 now but it seems that the clunk factor is getting me killed for now, might be skill issue)

feels wrong to not take quietitude, soul stealer, perilous combustion. Not sure about taking Warp Speed. I kinda want Warp Unbound too, but I'm pretty practiced at using Assail without it killing me (maybe I pop once every 5 missions depending on how stoned or tired I am)

any advice?

[fading patrol]

6 is the one with stab on heavy?

[rigid sky]

yes, 8 is the one with stab on push attack

[fading patrol]

For horde clear do LLLH, if you need visual guidance L3 is the only move that go diagonally upwards
Single target you just spam heavy all day

[strong gulch]

PC isn't a huge contributor of dps on a right side build; it's droppable.

Since you previously said that you won't be shooting all of the time, you can drop TTS and put it in quietude or soulstealer.

If you're practiced in not using WU, then leave it off.

If you really want an extra point, drop cruel fortune and swap to lingering.

[rigid sky]

apparently LLQQ or LLblock or push loops are also acceptable

The 25 stack DD bug has bitten me now, I can't give it up lmao

Yeah, I remember PC being way stronger on gunker

[fading patrol]

For mk8 any heavy that starts when your blade in the left side of the screen is always strike down
Right side heavy is hordeclear

[rigid sky]

but I tried it in a game last night

felt like it did nothing

[strong gulch]

LL bc is easier than swap cancel and better and safer.

That's true for both FGS mks

[fading patrol]

Muh fingers
Mk8 can spam light all day

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah, push attack for mk6 is great too

[rigid sky]

mk6 push attack is another overhead, right?

[acoustic jacinth]

I'd use mk6 if mk8 didn't look so good

Mk6 push attack is a horizontal light

[rigid sky]

I was thinking the mk8 might be better for a vraks 5 gunker

[strong gulch]

The PA is the same as dorce swords

[rigid sky]

oh, I mean, the push attacks themselves are just the force push

[strong gulch]

Force

[rigid sky]

but the follow-up

the 8 gets a special H0 for it

[acoustic jacinth]

The follow up yeah, whatever ya'd like to call it

[fading patrol]

Dont remember, no reason to use it
PA on fgs/fs is always a force push, follow up is different

[rigid sky]

I thought the 6 gets an overhead

[fading patrol]

8 have stab in the push followup

[rigid sky]

not sure about the light followup

but yeah, my thinking is that on a vraks 5 gunker, I generally want to shoot monsters anyway

and SG/DD means I'm beefy enough to 1-2 shot crushers etc anyway

so there's less of a need for the superior damage heavy string

if I go back to voidstrike I'd take a mark 6 with it

or if I went to a less boss-killy weapon

even down to laspistol 2, which I know is at least good vs bosses for gunker, but less quick with it than a v5 iirc

[ornate hamlet]

what does it mean to kill a pouncing hound with brain burst? it died when it was in air and it didnt count toward penance

[quartz barn]

While its mid jump towards someone

[ornate hamlet]

it was jumping toward me

[quartz barn]

Guess you just got unlucky

Happens

[ornate hamlet]

or it has to be that standard type of hounds

[quartz barn]

Standard?

[ornate hamlet]

it was a glowing eye one on a low hunting ground mission

figured its better cuz theres more

[quartz barn]

That probably shouldnt matter, but watch it be an oversight on fs end

[rigid sky]

can it be done with flayer?

if so then you can literally autoget it eventually

[quartz barn]

I think so yes

[ornate hamlet]

but you have to pre charge the brain burst with rmb no?

[quartz barn]

Not per se

[rigid sky]

If you're trying to do it with a true brain burst, then it helps

not necessary but it makes getting the timing easier

[ornate hamlet]

cuz hes not in the air for long enough time for me to charge and lock onto him

[rigid sky]

RMB precharge is generally a great idea for dogs anyway

since they often announce themselves before they show themselves

[quartz barn]

I remember just charging normally while it was running up to the team and just got lucky

[ornate hamlet]

i just did it again

so genuinely it doesnt count

or im on the wrong setting

[quartz barn]

But this was before ep was even a thing and someone else had to damage it because normal bb doesnt oneshot them

[ornate hamlet]

yea im not a fan of this penance

or psyker in the first place

[rigid sky]

Psyker's so broad tbh

keep trying different permutations of it, staff and gun

but it's not for everyone

[ornate hamlet]

i hate all staffs

and how he works

[rigid sky]

I realised I've not really enjoyed veteran or arbitrator for a while

[ornate hamlet]

but im not even 30 yet

all characters suck before 30 period.

[rigid sky]

Some more than others though

Psyker keystones are imo busted

doesn't feel like psyker without a keystone

all 3 of them, at least in terms of feeling (although EP is only really valuable in a few specific constellations)

[ornate hamlet]

i just cant get a hold of the staffs

theyre like throwing pebbles

and the soul flame so weak