i used to run that talent
#psyker-class
pallid stump
rancid wadi
GREGOR EISENHORN
pallid stump
till people told me it was kinda eh
long saddle
accidental quells are just not worth it most of the time
pallid stump
and it is kinda eh
solid pond
oh
long saddle
you want and should be in control of your peril
solid pond
yeah thats either vet or zealot
hazy birch
i use it
long saddle
it's also why a lot of ppl get fucked up by JaD when it spikes your peril on hits
tulip kettle
warp rider is "take on every build" tier
hazy birch
but im dancing between 50-90ish peril
tulip kettle
warp ghost is "take it on meleeker but not staff builds" tier
long saddle
meleekers have no reason not to run warp ghost
pallid stump
but im dancing between 50-90ish peril
tap quelling on staff
ripe obsidian
If I see a Psyker in the H40 queue without Warp Rider, I avoid that group.
tulip kettle
it feels rubbish playing meleeker without it
rancid wadi
If I see a Psyker in the H40 queue without Warp Rider, I avoid that group.
If I see a psyker, I avoid that group
tulip kettle
its pretty poo on staffkers
ripe obsidian
warp ghost is "take it on meleeker but not staff builds" tier
I take it on staff builds, not bubble knight, yes SG or Shriek melee
pallid stump
i do like warp ghost just to counteract a bit ER
solid pond
why wouldn't you take it on staff lol
pallid stump
im a bih thats bassicly it
pallid stump
i dont like the minus thoughness ngl
long saddle
I take it on some staves
tulip kettle
on meleeker its rubbish to not have it because you have to constantly do other things to build peril
pallid stump
on meleeker its rubbish to not have it because you have to constantly do other t...
true
tulip kettle
sometimes i dont want to rub my FGS because im building charge
and i dont want to assail
so i just have to lose peril
in those cases warp ghost is great
solid pond
simply SG again
tulip kettle
on staffkers i want the points for other things and it does nothing for me
pallid stump
also remember my 9+stam kinetic deflection + deflector blessing meme build?
solid pond
long saddle
SG drops you by 50 tho
tulip kettle
what if im running bubble knight?
solid pond
and then builds
pallid stump
its fun to tank gunners
long saddle
yeah but then what
pallid stump
if i get this one ill claim 3 penances for the price of one
solid pond
its really not
pallid stump
fuck is Bubble knight?
long saddle
no I meant the gunner tank deflector build
solid pond
ive heard of 2 people in here using it and I asked about it and was told it was a meme build and to not bother
lmao
tulip kettle
okay homie
pallid stump
yeah but then what
oh just...let the team kill it
its like smite
but worse
because you're not even doing damage
solid pond
fuck is Bubble knight?
I assume they use bubble and try meleeker in it
pallid stump
mayahps
tulip kettle
"you assume"
solid pond
correct
solid pond
just ligma nuts
pallid stump
prime elk
fuck is Bubble knight?
Build from the worst Psyker player ever 🙂↕️
tulip kettle
couldnt even carry me in H40 smh
prime elk
i made a build?
Even worse than you 
pallid stump
i have to sleep otherwise waking up at 6 am gonna be shit
ripe obsidian
fuck is Bubble knight?
I have it in the guide, should be under the melee section
pallid stump
also remind me not to take off DCsword
i was getting swarmed and thoguth "aight time to cheese it with parries" and i accidentally brought the toothbrush shiv
aka combat knife
tulip kettle
tell the enemies they cant hit you without your consent
pallid stump
holy shit so true
solid pond
repeat "im a tank, im a tank, im a tank" under your breath while you charge at the enemy
pallid stump
dont ask me what the fuck i was on when i made this...t'was actually kinda fun and managed to win a damnation game
the plan? get crits get EE rush in with scrier rinse and repeat
tulip kettle
its nonsense
tulip kettle
why do you have solidity
pallid stump
why not
tulip kettle
?
pallid stump
dont ask me what the fuck i was on when i made this...t'was actually kinda fun a...
read this
why smite btw? idk just whenever your team is doing something just smyker rq and thats it
tulip kettle
right but like, literally why put the point in solidity and not a smite upgrade or sthing
pallid stump
yknow...good idea
tulip kettle
when will you quell with this
prime elk
I am really of the mind that gunker should run assail
Assuming that’s a gunker build
Which it looks like one
tulip kettle
i am of this mind too
pallid stump
I am really of the mind that gunker should run assail
meleerker lol
tulip kettle
unless youre one of those "kf on gunker for cruel fortune abuse" kind of guys
gunker = meleeker
its the same thing
solid pond
prime elk
Yeah my “gun”ker gameplay is 80 percent melee usually
tulip kettle
i think it is for most people tbh
gun is for anti gunner/reaper at a distance and maybe bosses
maybe specials
pallid stump
holy shit, wait a moment
solid pond
no sustain on ammo on psyker so probably for the best lol
pallid stump
knife push attack counts as heavy attack
pallid stump
so it gets charged and due to charged enfeeble
tulip kettle
does las pistol have reverse damage falloff?
no
neither do helbores afaik but i didnt test them because i hate them anyway
should be called lasbows or something
frank compass
To get the Blessed by Fate penances just need to use Psykinetic Wrath when i have 100% perils ?
hazy birch
the other two are kinda shit imo. at least without proper builds ig. i tried em long ago when i made my first char and wasnt impressed
tulip kettle
yeah non recon lasguns are poop for other reasons
tulip kettle
To get the Blessed by Fate penances just need to use Psykinetic Wrath when i hav...
its been a very long time, but i think you need to be actually about to splode
hazy birch
mobility dump stat on recon?
tulip kettle
like, be at 100% peril, do another warp attack and start to explode, then shriek
tulip kettle
mobility dump stat on recon?
collat
solid pond
mobility dump stat on recon?
collat
hazy birch
tulip kettle
now just empower it, give it dum dum, infernus, flak and either crit chance or unyielding
solid pond
VI?
hazy birch
i have no mastery on this thing
solid pond
the one with a C
tulip kettle
and nah its the 12 i think, the blue one
hazy birch
ill have to level it
solid pond
must be for psyk
tulip kettle
yeah its got the highest fire rate = more procs
pallid stump
what the hell?
tulip kettle
recon also lets you instantly max stack mettle and perfect timing
pallid stump
i dont mean die
tulip kettle
yes you cant explode with smite
tulip kettle
it just stops channeling at critical
solid pond
time for a run with recon 12
pallid stump
the moment before a psyker turns into a smyker
tulip kettle
when you whip out the recon and pop a DD target
and get max mettle at the same time
ZOOOOOM
why yes i WOULD like 35% movespeed buff
verbal thistle
solid pond
just let me drop assail entirely game
pallid stump
just let me drop assail entirely game
wdym by this
graceful arch
give me my talent point back
Sorry your "complimentary" blitz is non negotiable
ripe obsidian
Starmie is a Psychic Pokémon, and therefore relevant to Psykers.
Mega Starmie is amazing.
tulip kettle
what game is that
tulip kettle
graceful arch
Skin walker pokemon
solid pond
why pokemon got dodge rolling
graceful arch
Pokemon red is peak yes.
solid pond
peak pokemon for me was raising my palkia slightly different than my brothers so our otherwise different comps would always end in his favour because his palkia attacked first
tulip kettle
what is a palkia
graceful arch
Has pal in the name
solid pond
doofy lookin T-rex
graceful arch
Sounds like palworld to me
solid pond
or typholosion or some shit idk pokemon
that sounds like a disease
tulip kettle
modern pokemon is indeed a disease
graceful arch
or typholosion or some shit idk pokemon
Why did you have to mention typholosion... Now I have to remember the controversy that happened like 1 or 2 years ago.
solid pond
modern
tulip kettle
controversy?
the only controversial thing i know about pokemon is something about vaporeon
graceful arch
It was some leaked Nintendo lore or something
tulip kettle
also i like mudkips.
tulip kettle
dear god
verbal thistle
verbal thistle
yeah
blockade
when I kiting back the reapears were afk at the drop
fell on their head
tulip kettle
the bulwarks following you with parkour is peak darktide
hazy birch
well, the gun definitely puts out
especially vs bosses
despite having no mastery
pity we didnt win that...
twins
gun psyker kinda fun. ngl.
timber cairn
Just me, or is FGS Mk.6 crazy op rn
tulip kettle
i mean, in what way
hazy birch
The words "op" and "broken" get used so much about so many things they've lost their meaning
royal totem
Oh you played more havoc?
tulip kettle
less dmg on heavies than DS, less mobility than literally every other melee, worse horde clear than the other mark of FGS
must be OP
royal totem
Which fgs mk should i use Dom?
tulip kettle
Mk6 has a better moveset
imo
horizontal sweep after push, chaining heavies with a stab
timber cairn
less dmg on heavies than DS, less mobility than literally every other melee, wor...
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Mobility? Pair with a Heavy Las = best mobility aside from combat blade.
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DS and FGS vi are about the same damage on heavies. I 1/2-hit heavies inc. crushers in high havocs. Plus the force push has 1 dmg, triggering the brainburst on stuff like bulwarks every 12s
i'm saying it's OP because it has an answer for everything
tulip kettle
its got worse ttk than obscuras on crushers
solid pond
8 has really good clear combo for mindless meleekering but 6 chunks hard with just heavy chain
tulip kettle
which also has force pushes, like every force weapon
solid pond
stab my beloved
tulip kettle
and you cant 2 hit crushers without absolutely maxxing every buff and hitting crits
it also doesnt have access to uncanny
timber cairn
and you cant 2 hit crushers without absolutely maxxing every buff and hitting cr...
kinda answered ur own q there
tulip kettle
i didnt ask a question
tulip kettle
FGS are fucking cool. And they are good. but they have downsides and arent the right weapon for every build
solid pond
the whole 6 vs 8 thing too, it feels like im stacking 2 bar slash faster on 6
tulip kettle
thats just because you are killing stuff
the bar fills based on the enemies that you kill
tulip kettle
so if you are killing better with 6 the bar will fil faster
strong gulch
Bean Pie
solid pond
strong gulch
https://tenor.com/view/i-would-like-to-eat-it-monique-talking-gif-17391927
I almost got it. Then I remembered that I'm in a standard american grocery store.
If I was in a mexian or asian grocer, I would def grab it.
tulip kettle
i just read the ingredients
tulip kettle
it really looks like you dodge that i get mad every time i see it
strong gulch
i just read the ingredients
bold of you
verbal thistle
net hitbox is like a pixel in the center of the net
only that pixel needs LoS
the rest of the net is visual
cosmic cobalt
net hitbox is like a pixel in the center of the net
certified 1.6 grenade moment
strong gulch
I just looked at how many times I posted something, in this discord. My reaction was woah; that seems like a lot. Then I looked at some other people's post numbers. I'm mid. 
thorn cedar
I just looked at how many times I posted something, in this discord. My reaction...
this reminds me of when i was 14 and reached my 1,000th post on a forum and thought that made me a big league community member, then i figured out how to list all forum members by post count and i wasnt even on the first 100 pages
strong gulch
this reminds me of when i was 14 and reached my 1,000th post on a forum and thou...
This sounds a flavor or smell from the good place.
thorn cedar
55k for me
tulip kettle
check anybody who regularly attends zealot chat
strong gulch
check anybody who regularly attends zealot chat
checks out
No h40 for me. Doing irl stuffs.
verbal thistle
thin widget
hello im new to the game, what mods do you guys recommend to have?
solid pond
hello im new to the game, what mods do you guys recommend to have?
creature spawner is helpful to learn stuff
royal totem
be like me! run unmodded 😛
hazy birch
this is definitely the way to play this class. holy shit
this is with a grey weapon, no mastery
and i died like 5 times
had fun tho 🤣
strong gulch
are you a navy bean? that appears to be the variety in the pie
I don't wanna be, but I was in the Navy. So it fits.
ornate hamlet
check anybody who regularly attends zealot chat
Zealot chat best chat. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
royal totem
damn. there are like no havocs tonight 🙁
rich spindle
Photoshopped. You need bubble to win
verbal thistle
was very fun
we made little forts with all of the walls
we had 3-5 incidents where specials just walked through them though
patent mango
i thought melee psyker was made up though
verbal thistle
I do want flat walls to be more consistant
rich spindle
Trapper nets ignore them sometimes
verbal thistle
I had a burster walk through and explode
rich spindle
No idea why
verbal thistle
a trapper that hit me though
and a mutant that ran through and cancled the revive
rich spindle
I thought it was caused by elevation changes maybe
rich spindle
Need someone to dig into the code
patent mango
why cant flat walls get buffed as much as sg....
verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
Trapper nets ignore them sometimes
Also ignore bubble sometimes
patent mango
verbal thistle
now to make a thumbnail and title
patent mango
to be fair trapper nets do have infinite cleave
ripe obsidian
Projectile spawns before it is deleted. If you're too close, the net hits you before it disappears
ripe obsidian
Hi
verbal thistle
same elevation, through wall
not very close
this too
burster just walked through
patent mango
spaghetti code...
sturdy reef
ripe obsidian
The trapper isn't even close enough that the projectile would spawn on the far side of the wall
patent mango
maybe they have cleave talents
verbal thistle
config files
let me find the pathing if you want
I seem to forgot how
but there is a config file you can edit the FoV
brittle galleon
what is a good dump stat for stub revolvers, simpletons?
hazy birch
so obviously i want this thing to be functional in general, but its mostly going to be the bosser. what should i change?
strong gulch
I've seen muties run into wall get stunned but when and how big the stagger back is will be inconsistent. So the mutie will eventually shuffle its way through the wall.
verbal thistle
nocturne dust
so obviously i want this thing to be functional in general, but its mostly going...
Nothing, seems good
Infernus, Dumdum, Flak and Unyielding
those are the bossing stuff
royal totem
Just remember not to shoot the shields
hazy birch
Just remember not to shoot the shields
yea. im stil ltryin to figure out how to not get randomly one shot by the twins when meleeing their shields
like they just AOE blow me up sometimes. seems random
strong gulch
It's a bug. Sometimes the impact damage on their shield just one shots you.
royal totem
Sometimes you will just die
Other times though theyll knock you into a mine or fire and you die
There are some truly unfortunate twin spawns though in this game
ripe obsidian
It's a bug. Sometimes the impact damage on their shield just one shots you.
I thought the bugs were in Helldivers
royal totem
Is potato playing today?
strong gulch
I can play
royal totem
Nah if u dont wanna no pressure. I deranked twice today
long ore
whats up fellow psyker mains
strong gulch
Nah if u dont wanna no pressure. I deranked twice today
If you don't mind deranking again, I'll play.
ripe obsidian
whats up fellow psyker mains
royal totem
I got an autogun vet. And then a voidstrike psyker ._.
strong gulch
epic embed fail
Need red name.
royal totem
Ill play tmrrw. In bed atm and probs shouldnt get out
strong gulch
Keep chatting
ripe obsidian
Ill play tmrrw. In bed atm and probs shouldnt get out
Ping me tomorrow and I might be able to join
polar flower
D'y'all think we'll get more spells at some point
royal totem
Ping me tomorrow and I might be able to join
Generally what time ish? I mean i assume at 8am for instance you wont play
strong gulch
Then I will melt waxes and lose my mind as the small details fall out of my stamp only to be lost in the carpet.
ripe obsidian
I had my first True Survivor run of S4 today. Rot + stims Magistrati. Was a great run.
verbal thistle
https://youtu.be/4zAiF_6BjiY flat screen tv melee psykers
ripe obsidian
Generally what time ish? I mean i assume at 8am for instance you wont play
Evening. Probably 10pm or later central time.
royal totem
So like 8pm ish or after here. Kk
Ive been playing meme infiltrate thunder hammer zealot
I look at pogryns and press the delete key
ripe obsidian
I had a T Hammer zealot last night who deleted a few bosses.
We still lost.
Purple + rot Silo, I think. Lost at the end event.
hazy birch
is there a way to reduce the volume of the max peril noise?
switching to this playstyle thats in my ear like 400x per match
royal totem
Damn. Thats rough. I feel like silo end is a bit rough though
strong gulch
is there a way to reduce the volume of the max peril noise?
It's under accessibility settings.
Think that's in interface.
royal totem
Im gonna set up skitarius tmrrw
strong gulch
I will continue to procrastinate doing that.
ripe obsidian
Damn. Thats rough. I feel like silo end is a bit rough though
Eh. It was avoidable. The Arby rushed the end event before the armored trickle hordes finished
So we ended up in the room with enemies spawning on all sides
hazy birch
It's under accessibility settings.
Think that's in interface.
thank you
ripe obsidian
And got split up and killed individually
royal totem
Eh. It was avoidable. The Arby rushed the end event before the armored trickle h...
That sounds really unfortunate 🙁
hazy birch
didnt see that before but looking at it, looks like the kind of thing that would only affect the visual aspect. hopefully it controls sound as well
royal totem
I will continue to procrastinate doing that.
I just wanna automate DS pokes
jovial juniper
didnt see that before but looking at it, looks like the kind of thing that would...
Fatshark 101 they don't label things correctly
nocturne dust
I will continue to procrastinate doing that.
Same
ripe obsidian
That sounds really unfortunate 🙁
It's usually better to make a bad decision with your team than a good decision alone. Usually. But the wall of trickle horde armor + bombers and flamers controlling half the map meant that one bad decision turned into all of us splitting up and making bad decisions
royal totem
Mmmm...ill try to remember the piece of wisdom though.
ripe obsidian
Panic and tilt can fog the brain
Forget where it's safe to retreat, get caught on terrain, tunnel vision and miss a special or an overhead
royal totem
Yeah. True.
rough gale
ripe obsidian
I am your Beloved
strong gulch
Forget where it's safe to retreat, get caught on terrain, tunnel vision and miss...
This is my default. 🫡
ripe obsidian
Mmmm...ill try to remember the piece of wisdom though.
In bad situations with your team, you can often work together to fix the problem.
ripe obsidian
Wanna play six?
I am in bed. D:
plucky flax
Go sleep 
ripe obsidian
I shall
ripe obsidian
I do want to play, but I am too tired.
royal totem
Gonna rename my zealot to thotsandprayers
strong gulch
Gonna rename my zealot to thotsandprayers
did you buy the butt panel pants?
plucky flax
Both h40 clearance zealots are running books for auric. 
royal totem
did you buy the butt panel pants?
No. Should i have?
royal totem
Both h40 clearance zealots are running books for auric. <:PainsChamp:74462011265...
Whats wrong with books
plucky flax
It sucks in auric
strong gulch
No. Should i have?
The closest thing a thot would where.
royal totem
The closest thing a thot would where.
Damn. Im too late
ripe obsidian
Both h40 clearance zealots are running books for auric. <:PainsChamp:74462011265...
Suspiciously psychic for a vet
plucky flax
Suspiciously psychic for a vet
Faster to do this event on psyker
deft stump
Faster to do this event on psyker
I wonder, should you have played Vetker.
plucky flax
1.4mil damage in 27mins not bad for auric I guess.
dusk wren
does soulstealer do anything for a melee psyker
or better, what counts as a warp attack with the force greatsword
languid tusk
side room of death. can you recognize the map ? (red circle is twins trigger, blue circle is captain trigger, green circle is monstrosity trigger)
verbal thistle
Captain and monster trigger share location
Only boss triggers difference Is twins since they use custom locations
languid tusk
I usually have the boss spawn at the drop down into the area or at the bridge, captain seems to attack us a little bit later
maybe they spawn at same time but come from different places ?
verbal thistle
But my guess is oublette?
languid tusk
But my guess is oublette?
guessed right on first try Xd
verbal thistle
maybe they spawn at same time but come from different places ?
That can happen since captains cant jump over walls. Like BoN so they path through the nearest teleporter/spawn door
And often come late or from behind
languid tusk
yeah hate it when captain comes from behind, surprise captain is not good for my win rate
verbal thistle
Real quick if you want to me explain why that happened
The picture
*why all the bosses spawned at once
languid tusk
everybody always want to enter side room, and yet everytime we enter side room we get boss spammed
verbal thistle
There is a reason
That doorway isn't properly pathed correctly
Hard to explain but the game is calculating the entire path around
So it counts as passing all the triggers when you take that side route
If you noticed
Enemies cant walk through the doorway
The nav mesh or whatever pathing enemies use wasn't properly made in that spot
So they take the long way around
Makes sense?
languid tusk
yeah, that makes sense
verbal thistle
So the game thinks you just ran all the way forward
And spawns all the bosses in that path
There are many spots like this around maps
It takes a keen eye to notice
languid tusk
I thought it was because the left wall is really thin and you are close to the next area
lol
verbal thistle
pure scaffold
or better, what counts as a warp attack with the force greatsword
The fgs warplock slash is considered a warp attack for malefic momentum. It doesn’t proc True Aim.
Souldrinker is good if you have reliable access to soulblaze, or are playing with a blazing spirit voidblast or inferno/purgatus psyker. But if you are playing melee psyker you will primarily want the attack speed, cleave, and by crack of bone talents
dusk wren
warpolock slash you mean the energy wave right?
pure scaffold
Yeah
dusk wren
i remember triggering the autobrain burst on some normal slash, but it was probably one that inflicted soulblaze
pure scaffold
All attacks by you are valid for kinetic flayer
dusk wren
oh i thought it was only warp attacks for some reason
i ask because i've seen a melee/gun psyker take souldrinker
and that made me doubt my knowledge
pure scaffold
You take it with perilous combustion
strong gulch
That build has soulstealer, not souldrinker. It does have KF and PC.
strong gulch
np
dusk wren
i never remember the name of the talents, only the effects
strong gulch
SB, blitz, staves, special from force melees are all warp attacks
Some people like KF for meleeker / gunker, but assail is generally used. Assail also means more soulstealer value.
That build has some questionable takes and not takes, but is mostly fine.
dusk wren
it made me scratch my head a lot because as a melee psyker, it's not taking quietude, lighting speed, warp splitting, one with the warp, warp rider, warp ghost
and kinetic deflection
does the FGS not benefit much from lighting speed
dusk wren
someone was asking for a melee psyker build
and i saw someone reccomend this one and me rethink my base knowledge of the game
like, it's so radically different from mine that it made me doubt if i was doing something wrong
quartz barn
flashbacks to people argueing about getting revive speed for faster voc revives
tulip kettle
its like they tried to make at least 1 mistake in every single place that they could
cosmic sigil
That build has soulstealer, not souldrinker. It does have KF and PC.
i wish i had one more point for soulstealer 🙁
deft stump
*flashbacks to people argueing about getting revive speed for faster voc revives...
But what if revive speed and the awful talent that auto pickup.
strong gulch
i wish i had one more point for soulstealer 🙁
Always the "just one more point". Same tho. lmao
I will never know happiness like this.
long saddle
zealot is my new revive machine honestly
deft stump
zealot is my new revive machine honestly
The funni talent you take if you go beacon.
long saddle
providence sits right before the elite node
I don't even always take beacon
this is my usual zealot middle, it looks cursed sadly
cosmic sigil
I think it's higher priority tbh\
long saddle
I have run it, but I often don't get more than like 25% uptime
cosmic sigil
soc is good but depending one the weapon you may want the talent on the other side
long saddle
so i take it if I want the weakpoint stagger one
cosmic sigil
I am using uptime as well and hmm I like it but I am not so sure if the numbers are totally reliable
long saddle
it depends on the build as well ofc, I've mostly skipped it for stuff like crusher builds
cosmic sigil
well it depends on the weapon, I would not use a dodge based talent with the hammer or a slow weapon (relic blade is the limit for me)
ah yeah, understandable
icy breach
this is my usual zealot middle, it looks cursed sadly
Its good apart from shield of memes
Use againts the odds
icy breach
I think it's higher priority tbh\
Nah; considering all the buffs to scabs you need that 15%
tulip kettle
@plucky flax little does he know it was the red stim that clutched it, gg dude
plucky flax
What red stim?
tulip kettle
you stimmed me, no?
plucky flax
Yeah I did
At the tunnel when I got captain's aggro and you were holding back elites
plucky flax
Realy pro vet play
tulip kettle
i agree
plucky flax
Just sucks my only toughness gen is elite/special kill and shout.
I can't fight any horde. 😄
tulip kettle
who needs to kill trash when youre putting out armour dmg numbers like that
plucky flax
I tried mk6 powersword but the mobility sucks ass and I take way too much damage.
So I'd rather not kill any chaffs at all but stay alive
And hopefully keep the psyker alive
tulip kettle
seemed to work 🙂
strong gulch
Good h40?
tulip kettle
some guy creamed himself in VC, was funny
long saddle
I can't fight any horde. 😄
have you tried mk1 shovel
plucky flax
The basic one?
long saddle
ye
plucky flax
Too hard for me I am noob vet
dusk wren
have you tried the combat axe
weary crane
dusk wren
rashad that is
dusk wren
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/remove-kinetic-flayer-critical-peril-restrict...
that's true
never understood why that's there
weary crane
Hopefully a Fatshark dev finally acknowledges it
dusk wren
like, usually it's present because the talent would overload you
but kinetic flayer doesn't give any peril
crimson moss
blaze force sword perk/blessings/dump?
weary idol
why tf would a SG psyker want to use KF anyways
this is like when Mr E or Tanner or whoever the fuck suggested that kraks should stick to mutants (when it did 2400 damage and would not kill them from full health)
summer prairie
for some staff sg builds
marble crater
blaze force sword perk/blessings/dump?
Which one? Warp res is the dump either way, perks and blessings depend on the mark
crimson moss
Which one? Warp res is the dump either way, perks and blessings depend on the ma...
deimos but curious to know for each
marble crater
I use maniac and carapace with uncanny and deflector for deimos
Flak and maniac with slaughterer and deflector for illisi
weary idol
is illisi good?
It's the "bad" force sword in that it is not top tier like the other 2
And is instead just okay
crimson moss
whats the big difference between deimos and obscurus? they both seem like single target force swords?
weary idol
obscurus has a better horde clear combo, but a finnicky single target combo that's hard to aim
deimos has the BIG STAB that can fully knockdown crushers
tulip kettle
illisi is a niche weapon with specific use case - its basically just a worse FGS/power sword that has ok horde clear, poor single target + access to uncanny which the FGS doesnt have
the other 2 have clear use cases, afaik obscuras is slightly better but i never use it because it has an upward strike in the single target combo thats easy to miss with
fierce crest
its so funny that the deimos stabs harder than the FGS
tulip kettle
idk i think i could probably stab better with the deimos than a great big great sowrd
but then again i dont have psychic abilities
fierce crest
its a sword, what could it weigh, 40 pounds?
acoustic jacinth
Funny enough
Swords usually weigh 3-4lbs
6-7 for larger two handed
Like the fgs
tulip kettle
yup
acoustic jacinth
They do look far heavier
solid pond
yeah weapons are alot lighter than people think, unless its like
Guts's giant meme sword
crimson moss
force greatsword dump/perks/blessings?
and opinions on each mark?
solid pond
in which case, good luck
acoustic jacinth
But they physically cannot be, no one is that strong, your muscles will try but your wrists will fail
tulip kettle
ive never had to swing a sword around, but i know carrying and swinging a rifle that weighed around 8 pounds loaded for a few hours is extremely tiring
FGS is unstable power, then your choice of second blessing, usually shred or wrath
then carapace and unyielding
acoustic jacinth
force greatsword dump/perks/blessings?
and opinions on each mark?
60 WR dump, i use unstable + wrath, the MK that has vanguard heavies, can't remember the name
Yeah cara unyielding is great
solid pond
force greatsword dump/perks/blessings?
and opinions on each mark?
warp resist iirc, unyield/cara unstable power and either wrath or shred in my experience, if you're memeing replace unstable with blazing spirit
tulip kettle
and mk6 is generally just better
solid pond
shred feels great on mk6
acoustic jacinth
Mk6 has bonkers damage
Mk8's lights i do like though
Especially since i run it with EK
crimson moss
thanks guys
tulip kettle
its fine, but you can access the horizontal on MK6 pretty easily and the light combo is still not at all bad
and the heavy chain is just better by a margin
solid pond
force greatsword dump/perks/blessings?
and opinions on each mark?
also, lights are very easy on Mk8, has overhead chaining heavies, push attack to get to the stab, Mk6 has 2 overheads and a stab as its heavies, very good, its lights are more diagonal but still good
acoustic jacinth
Yeah, mk6 just doesn't have those dead horizontal lights but it shouldn't anyways due to its nuts heavy chain
acoustic jacinth
Yep
crimson moss
also, lights are very easy on Mk8, has overhead chaining heavies, push attack to...
ive only seen 1 overhead and 1 stab in the heavies?
solid pond
depends when you start the heavies yeah
tulip kettle
you get 2 overheads if you are sprinting
acoustic jacinth
Yeah
tulip kettle
someone post the move chart
crimson moss
oh i see, thanks
tulip kettle
for the mk6, if you dont use macros just do L1 - L2 - block cancel for hordes
chain heavies for elites
very braindead and easy
you can also get fancy and do push - light - heavy - light - light on a loop for mixed hordes but that takes brainpower
crimson moss
and the perks/blessings are the same for each mk?
solid pond
pretty much
got a power blessing with either a cleave or crit blessing
works for both
tulip kettle
i think on MK8 you wouldnt bother with unyielding
its not got good combos for bossing really, losing the chaining stab hurts quite a bit
solid pond
and blazing spirit can work in place of the power blessing but PC should be more than enough SB for when you want it
tulip kettle
right but i cba to link you to the million discussions about this
blazing spirit is a waste of time on melee
it only procs on crits
and guess what
solid pond
just crit
solid pond
some time ill try the funny build with no BS and see how it goes
solid pond
IF (it doesnt, but if) blazing worked on the special attack, it would be sick
yeah
fucking dumb that it doesn't
even a blessing that forces crit on the slash every 15s
tulip kettle
yup it would make slice a good blessing
solid pond
missed opportunity for a funny build
tulip kettle
slice + blazing would be legitimately good
but alas
fatshark, more psyker buffs please
solid pond
you get to feel the imaginary power of it when you have a mixed group of elites where you can kill the weaker ones gunners/shotgunners and then the SB from PC kills the heavier ones other than crushers
with the slash*
really satisfying
weary idol
the other 2 have clear use cases, afaik obscuras is slightly better but i never ...
that uppercut does so much damage tho
tulip kettle
oh yeah its great
i know obscuras has better single target TTK against non mutants than deimos but its just easier to fuck up
and im bad
crimson moss
electrokinetic staff dump/stats/perks?
latent panther
Hey, what curios should i have overall?
I want to do all penances on them, just to don't bother. (mostly)
Toughness base x3
Toughness x3
Cooldown x3
1x Gunner resist
1x Block
1x Toughenss regen
?
long saddle
skip block and toughness regen and go with another gunner resist and one sniper or two sniper ones
zealous wing
someone post the move chart
im late but
long saddle
would be my pick
tulip kettle
electrokinetic staff dump/stats/perks?
theres different ways to play it
depends if you will mainly spam lights or charge it
but warp res is dump, then its usually nexus and the second varies
long saddle
perks are still crit chance and flak ye?
long saddle
I go charge dump on surge surge
tulip kettle
that is also correct
crimson moss
ty
is it crit chance only for light spam or crit for charging as well?
for the perk
crimson moss
is one better or is it pretty even?
bright summit
Any perk combo can work on ek
I mean it's perks just take what you like it doesn't matter it's not like there's a BP you want
Blessings are very funny though
Surge + nexus for m1
Flurry + nexus for m2
Flurry + surge, run n gun + surge, sustained fire+ surge, even transfer peril + surge if you're awesome
long saddle
I've never tried the transfer peril one
bright summit
Its funny with scriers
long saddle
yeah it sounds nice, should maybe try it
bright summit
I mostly play surge flurry though
long saddle
or for a non-SG build even
bright summit
Or I play surge rending on trauma Ive been liking that one
tulip kettle
surge flurry doesnt make any sense
youre losing out from both ends
and EK really wants crits so getting the most crit chance for your playstyle is the way to go
stark haven
Is crit build with purgatus staff generally viable?
bright summit
Well if I want to play the best build I play my shriekspam one and nothing else but I don't want to play that amymore
tulip kettle
Is crit build with purgatus staff generally viable?
its the way its usually played, yes
stark haven
I see
bright summit
With scriers you still have 60% crit rate and flurry makes the micro fun for me so who cares
long saddle
ye once you learn that you don't need max charge on purg for full blaze you know you don't even need flurry on it
I ran flurry for so long on mine
stark haven
I have Warp Nexus and Blaze Away, Switched off from flurry kind of quickly
Now I'm trying combat axe instead of Deimos sword
tulip kettle
you can run what you like
generally with inferno you want a force sword with uncanny strike
stark haven
Why? I have run force sword a lot yeah
I'm not good with maulers and such. Axe gives me easy bonks
long saddle
uncanny stacks helps with soulblaze dmg
I mostly just get FS for crushers/bulwarks or mutants and the occasional deflector usage
obtuse dome
I'm not good with maulers and such. Axe gives me easy bonks
Force sword is good for cara and can block ranged.
obtuse dome
I'm not good with maulers and such. Axe gives me easy bonks
Also special on deimos will stagger maulers
pale prairie
New class confirmed: dueling sword
weary crane
stark haven
Also special on deimos will stagger maulers
Is special the one where I charge up my sword with warp
obtuse dome
Is special the one where I charge up my sword with warp
Yes
zealous wing
Also special on deimos will stagger maulers
why use the special when you can stab them and knock them all the way over
obtuse dome
Is special the one where I charge up my sword with warp
And u need deflector blessing to block ranged
zealous wing
light then heavy, stab them in the face, they go flying
zealous wing
deimos special is pretty not great , and it locks you in also to actually FINISH the attack. its seldom one mauler alone
obtuse dome
Thats true
zealous wing
if you dodge out of the special attack, you get basically nothing
zealous wing
or, knock them over
stark haven
light then heavy, stab them in the face, they go flying
This seems cool
zealous wing
basically, dom told me when i was learning, that deimos special is ideally, never used
its good on the stim canisters though
when youre in active combat with many things, especially in a higher difficulty, you need to be able to keep moving
obtuse dome
Hm i like it and i dont have any problems with the special
But it does take long yeah
I use it quite a lot
stark haven
And u need deflector blessing to block ranged
I used deflector in the beginning, but I felt I wasnt utilizing it anymore. I think I learned to use my movement more I guess
zealous wing
you learn naturally when you could sneak it in, but when learning it, its best to be "never touch it" to learn how the other things work, then you learn when to mix it in after
obtuse dome
I used deflector in the beginning, but I felt I wasnt utilizing it anymore. I th...
Thts fine too its not necessary
zealous wing
example, when i was learning EK, i was told to never use the BB
now, ive learned when i can use the bb to deal with something ranged no one else is, without stopping for very long and go back to ek
obtuse dome
Never is just very extreme imo
zealous wing
it is, but its also easier to say than trying to name every single specific use case
zealous wing
people will figure out the use cases over time, usually in active combat also so it sticks, "hey that sniper is very dangerous, its shot my teammate once, i have nothing big near me, let me snag that fucker"
obscurus
ironic
zealous wing
its definitely a weird to use sword
it does have better horde culling than deimos, but deimos is great for knocking maulers and crushers on their ass
obtuse dome
Yeah. I mean thats really the only time i oull out my melee anyway as psyker
zealous wing
some people have said deimos kills crushers faster than FGS also, but, it feels very false when i was testing it
zealous wing
i have the spawner mod so i can make the tests combat
long saddle
deimos is nice when there's not a crusher horde at least
zealous wing
i just wish we could make an actual preset for the creature spawner mod
obtuse dome
i just wish we could make an actual preset for the creature spawner mod
I just need bosses in the psykanium
zealous wing
i'd love to set up an actual horde with some elites and specialists in specific areas to run proper tests that are the same every time
zealous wing
yeah the mod will let you do monsters
obtuse dome
That too just to practice hordes alone and stuff
graceful arch
Hey Cassius how's the skooma addiction going?
obtuse dome
Hey Cassius how's the skooma addiction going?
I had to sell the house
Its caius cosades btw😂
obtuse dome
I forgot how it's spelled
Dw we all do
graceful arch
All I know is I'm gonna use a Icarian flight scroll and land on my head now.
tulip kettle
the special on deimos is literally a waste of time, yes
i say never use it, and i mean it
you have better dps with L1-H2 than waiting for special
also, deflector is good but not necessary, uncanny is must, these days i run with superiority
and you should pull your melee every time the blob in front of you reaches 16+ stacks of soulblaze and start push attacking
hazy birch
Warp ghost with scriers is like crack. Legit feel like chev chelios the entire match
tulip kettle
and finally deimos is probably one of if not the best weapons to have vs crusher hordes
thorn cedar
i like the big pokey
also you can use the special sometimes, its fun when there's an opportunity lol
when you find a lone mauler, why not
hazy birch
and finally deimos is probably one of if not the best weapons to have vs crusher...
Someone recommended the force sword to me for dealing with crushers but specifically the obscurus
Without going brain burst it's really hard to fit any kind of crusher solution into psyker in my experience. Not without giving up horde clear
Right now, with the build I'm running, carapace is the only thing I feel rather weak against
burnt gazelle
what kind of builds do you run
hazy birch
Me?
burnt gazelle
ye
i'm pretty sure deimos is more damage and also safer but i haven't used obscurus since they messed with it
hazy birch
All my stuff is home brew
burnt gazelle
like what weps/blitz/active/keystone
hazy birch
But like I'll run an ek, whatever melee that has decent clear and so far assail has been my go to blitz
Though, after trying this absolute methamphetamine of a PlayStyle last night I think my go to psyker build is going to be fgs, recon lasgun and assail with scriers
Normally I run bubble with the EK and play kinda more support based but that lasgun with scriers is a whole other level of psyker play. Or maybe that's just how I'm playing it lol feels like a completely different class. I'm not playing back line afraid to leave the comfort zone.
burnt gazelle
if you're running bubble EK you do need a melee that can do carapace + horde or be comfy with kiting crusher packs around with EK
you can also play something like ds4/knife/deimos and offload horde clear to assail
hazy birch
What melee has good horde clear AND strong carapace though?
Like my fgs does alright vs carapace but it's not what I'd call "strong" vs it
burnt gazelle
you get a force push and decent combos
mental rock
Axe
burnt gazelle
fgs, rashad is okay into cara on psyker
hazy birch
One or two of em show up I'm good. But I stumble into a pack of 8 of those things I'm screwed
burnt gazelle
need to dance a bit, you have force push and ek rmb to stagger, and okay damage combos
if you have space you can kite them around a loop in the map and chip them down with your EK
hazy birch
Assuming I'm not on a higher difficulty that's also spawning endless other shit at me lol
Like seriously a few crushers by themselves wouldn't be so much an issue if not for getting overwhelmed elsewhere
They also seem to spawn in the tightest corners while I'm getting flanked by 12 hordes that spawned behind me
royal totem
Thats...what teammates are for
burnt gazelle
staff psyker is the best character at risklessly kiting tons of enemies around a loop and killing them tbh
royal totem
Its a nice sentiment to pretend you have none but in practice bad to play like that
hazy birch
Seriously though I get good teams and bad ones but ultimately I have to rely on the only constant in my games, which is myself
If they're doing their job then yea I'm not concerned at all but those aren't the games I'm worried about dealing with those situations
burnt gazelle
anyway i personally think bubble/ek is very limiting towards the rest of your loadout
sick wing
staff psyker is the best character at risklessly kiting tons of enemies around a...
just get in there with a force greatsword and go nuts
hazy birch
Like I get a decent ogryn on my team with a grenade launcher or whatever the hell he's using that's deleting packs of crushers, then it's not even a thought I'm processing
hazy birch
staff psyker is the best character at risklessly kiting tons of enemies around a...
Honestly, carapace aside, assail does this quite well
Like I only need a melee weapon to handle the down time while charges refresh
burnt gazelle
are you weaving assail throws in between melee combos btw
hazy birch
Yea
If I have 4-5+ charges I'll swap over real quick then get back to swinging
It's the big bottleneck to my output
BUT
Once I really get this recon lasgun off the ground that will change
That thing is amazing
Legit the only weapon in the game I've purchased a real money skin for. No regrets. It's up there with the bolt gun for me
royal totem
"I dont like lasguns"
hazy birch
I had never tried the recon. I stand by my statement. The others are shit
sick wing
These low level staffs kinda suck should I just be using guns for now
hazy birch
Maybe they can actually perform at some point with the right builds or whatever but they still feel like shit. This thing just feels amazing
sick wing
A fully charged voidblast m2 is worth a single assail dagger
royal totem
These low level staffs kinda suck should I just be using guns for now
Yeah probs.
burnt gazelle
just run laspistol assail or smth while levelling
mental rock
Hmm ok if you say so
hazy birch
I pulled out a grey recon and was immediately feeling like a god
royal totem
I dont play with gunkers though
sick wing
just run laspistol assail or smth while levelling
I’m trying out force greatsword brain burst it’s pretty nice
burnt gazelle
laspistol's speed boost also lets you run fast while having an fgs which is a very important qualification
hazy birch
It's just free damage to add to your rotation. Also makes a really nice sniper elimination tool
sick wing
hazy birch
Half of psykers kit "plays the game for you" lol
junior linden
And it feels like shit. Subjectively
Do you play on PC? If you do, there's a mod that lets you hold down right click to keep shooting semi auto weapons, it makes the laspistol feel amazing
hazy birch
Like so much of what's available either nullifies mechanics or auto targets things
junior linden
I think the laspistol feels like ass normally though I agree
hazy birch
Do you play on PC? If you do, there's a mod that lets you hold down right click ...
Id not use something of that sort personally. But it's not about being semi auto. I think semi auto is fine, but should hit really hard
Like Ill run a bolt pistol just fine
Cuz it hits like a fright train
burnt gazelle
Half of psykers kit "plays the game for you" lol
really funny how scriers buffs over the last six months now mean that 2/3 abilities involve minimal peril management now
hazy birch
I know nothing of that
But yes, scriers in general means I'm not worried about my peril
sick wing
I fart too loudly and my peril goes to 100%
junior linden
I fart too loudly and my peril goes to 100%
Just fart again with venting shriek
royal totem
Gunker just too ammo hungry for me to play with 🙁
hazy birch
I'm telling you. You utilize all parts of the kit equally and ammo isn't so much an issue. You're constantly cranking
junior linden
Mhm
royal totem
I dont plsy gunker but ammo is always a shortage when i play with them.
hazy birch
Cuz shooting things is fun
narrow herald
It blows my mind that this guy gets more roles than actors who have been in theater for 10+ years 💀
hazy birch
I mean he's kind of a B actor and most the movies he's starred in have been low budget bangers
burnt gazelle
rumbler only is the biggest ammo hog ime, gunkers used to be worse before fgs and all the melee psyker buffs
hazy birch
Ironically the triple A productions he's starred in I didn't like very much
royal totem
Its fun till others run out of ammo.
hazy birch
Transporter, crank, etc were his best
shrewd comet
does warp splitting affect guns as well?
narrow herald
I mean he's kind of a B actor and most the movies he's starred in have been low ...
No he's probably the worst actor I have ever seen on movies
He's like F tier 💀
hazy birch
Its fun till others run out of ammo.
This is a skissue. I mean if it's a higher level engagement and people need to be cautious with ammo than the psyker does too. It's not like he needs the gun for anything but bosses really
sick wing
I'm telling you. You utilize all parts of the kit equally and ammo isn't so much...
I just use force greatsword to cut down hordes and that railgun pistol to cave in the chest of any sniper that shoots me
hazy birch
I use assail to deal with snipers
hazy birch
No he's probably the worst actor I have ever seen on movies
I think this is an over statement
shrewd comet
usually in my runs, my ranged kills and melee kills are damn near equal
hazy birch
Statham is a good actor. He's just your stereotypical action star type actor
shrewd comet
@narrow herald how you been btw? havent really been in the forums too much
narrow herald
I think this is an over statement
narrow herald
<@717361443564945468> how you been btw? havent really been in the forums too muc...
What I was here yesterday 😞
shrewd comet
i meant that I haven't been*
narrow herald
Nope https://youtu.be/pA9LqhRd9zE?si=qIXHy4-wEWdC04mL
Tbf, Hollywood has been fucked since the 60s when it comes to objectively good actors
But Statham is a different breed
narrow herald
i meant that I haven't been*
Wait who are u?
white sky
Yk who was an objectively good actor?
narrow herald
Yk who was an objectively good actor?
Ur mom 😈
shrewd comet
Wait who are u?
erm...just a dude you've helped a bit regarding builds throughout the year
white sky
Christopher Lee
shrewd comet
like simple questions
hazy birch
A good actor sells his character. Statham does that. He just doesn't have a diverse kit of personalities.
narrow herald
A good actor sells his character. Statham does that. He just doesn't have a dive...
Well he is definitely good at selling a product 💀
I have to admit Statham is good at being Statham
shrewd comet
used to have the name "FreeshAvocadoo"
white sky
Tbh I think if you want to see some really good acting you move into watching stage stuff
narrow herald
Wait, up next will be Beezos or Elon 🤯
10/10 selling themselves
Best actors of all time
shrewd comet
i think Dwayne Johnson has as much or less range as Jason Stathom
easily my least favorite actor
hazy birch
Like I said. Stereotypical action star
There's not a whole lot to be done in that department
white sky
Tbf Arnie and Stallone were yesteryears action stars and I'd say they both have decent range
At least in comparison to Rock and Statham
pale prairie
“My contract says I can’t lose or even take too much of a beating in any action sequences”
tulip kettle
arnie had a bit of range sure, if not a bit wooden, but stallone has no range at all
opposite end of the spectrum - tom cruise
i hate the guy
but hes a great actor with great range
shrewd comet
does anyone here use the Mk X laspistol?
tulip kettle
shrewd comet
i see lot of folks using the faster variant
white sky
but hes a great actor with great range
Public face of scientology good at acting? Perish the thought.
tulip kettle
does anyone here use the Mk X laspistol?
yeah its ok, i just think laspistol loses out to recon lasguns on psyker due to mettle and perfect timing. The faster firing variant makes up for this slightly
young cliff
BS, LasPistol might not have the ammo count of recons but not only their crit chance Is higher, their weak spot and crit damage is FAR stronger, making them quite good for even boss damage
tulip kettle
?