psyker-class

[tulip kettle]

literally nothing

[ripe obsidian]

It seems very good. I just don't know what I would give up on Psyker. Maybe CDR, like R3msky said.

Each 4% CDR is 1.2 seconds off Shriek

[tulip kettle]

we can afford to lose toughness now

which i assume you have as minors on curios

[ripe obsidian]

Aye.

Would have to see how much toughness I lose

[tulip kettle]

with 2 tough curios and only 1 5% tough you should have 120 tough in a 40

[graceful arch]

I am running 2 corruption res cause I am shit at the game.

2 bomber 2 gunner 3 cd 2 corru.

[tulip kettle]

i run 2 toughness 1 hp major, with 3 x CDR, 1 x gunner res, 1 x corr res, 1 x revive speed

then the other 3 minor can be whatever you want

so could even get 3x revive speed and still 10% toughness from minors

fire res seems generally pointless to me

[graceful arch]

I like bomber res for tox bombers.

[tulip kettle]

either fire does nothing or youre dying to it

[ripe obsidian]

I'd probably do 3x gunner, 3x CDR, 2x revive, and 1x toughness if I'm still gonna have 120 toughness. Gunner resist is quite nice, especially without deflector

[tulip kettle]

i agree i always have at least 1

[summer prairie]

got declined from a h30 for running trauma shriek, very normal

[ripe obsidian]

No bubble, no game

[royal totem]

trauma shriek? i'll decline you from an h20! /s

[tulip kettle]

but if i dont have bubble, how can i stand and use all of my ammo before the first event duelling gunners?

my new thing is just

"to quote the arbitrator

DONT FEAR THEIR FIREPOWER

GET IN CLOSE! "

[graceful arch]

I mean yeah gunners aren't as big of a threat as my randoms seem to think they are.

[tulip kettle]

theyre a massive threat if they are scared to push them and engage em in melee

reapers also genuinely threatening in cranial

[plucky flax]

Krak out

[tulip kettle]

cranial reapers ignoring supression can be very not nice

[graceful arch]

Oubliette first event on a gunner seed can be genuinely disgusting if someone aggroes the gunners early.

[royal totem]

infiltrate isn't for getting to gunners. it's to kill that solo crusher your teammate is fighting

[young cliff]

Infiltrate or shroud field?

[royal totem]

shroud field! 😄

[daring nexus]

Can someone explain wildfire to me?

[rich spindle]

Infiltrate main use is having an icon you can glance down at to check if it’s off cooldown yet

[tulip kettle]

what do you want to know?

if you are running multiple sources of soulblaze and kinetic flayer its very very good

otherwise its not so good

[daring nexus]

Why so some people swear by it if most people agree it useless

[tulip kettle]

nobody agrees its useless

only idiots who dont understand the game

[hearty wolf]

Dom gaslighting again

How dare you call Agent an idiot wtf

[tulip kettle]

people said it was bad like, a year ago.

it wasnt, even then

[royal totem]

"ES is just free damage if you left click a crowd. Still better than wildfire which simply takes 4 stacks from a killed enemy and splits it between nearby enemies. Basically just 1 single stack of soulfire applied to nearby enemies. Pretty much the most useless skill in the game."

[tulip kettle]

now with the new trees its very, very good.

[rich spindle]

I think it’s ok if you’re only soulblazing though pc or blaze trauma. It’s fairly useless on purg imo

[ripe obsidian]

Agent is a Wildfire believer

[tulip kettle]

wrong.

[ripe obsidian]

This is not true.

[rich spindle]

Happy to hear more

[tulip kettle]

without wildfire your stacks wont spread to targets you arent blazing

with wildfire, they will

[daring nexus]

How exactly does it improve your damage? Can it like brake the SB stack cap or something?

[hearty wolf]

Take it out of context

[rich spindle]

In my experience, it’s trivially easy to put stacks on enemies with the inf cleave aoe

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire boosts everything you do. Souldrinker, In Fire Reborn, makes your Infernoing scale faster, more chance for Kinetic Flayer to go off, and so on

[tulip kettle]

its not about stack cap

its about proccing your other talents

[hearty wolf]

This is literally so wrong, it's backwards xd

[tulip kettle]

just what six said above

wildfire is good if you have lots of soulblaze

if your only soulblaze is PC, its not very good.

[rancid jasper]

Wildfire is very nice with souldrinker

[quartz barn]

i just had a lvl 9511 vet on my team

[ripe obsidian]

Wildfire on its own is meh. Wildfire in combination with other Soulblaze stuff is great

[rich spindle]

In my experience it usually just spreads 1 stack to 4 nearby enemies, which is not very helpful

[quartz barn]

bro picked up grenades, so needless to say he got kicked

[plucky flax]

Real

[tulip kettle]

that is indeed how it works

now lets imagine a scenario

[ripe obsidian]

It does this like 30 times a second tho in dense hordes

[rich spindle]

Ok

[hearty wolf]

Wildfire is acceleration. Acceleration is damage. Damage means things dead. Dead things don't deal damage.

[tulip kettle]

you shriek into a horde then enter an airlock

the entire horde dies before you leave the airlock. the specials mixed in also get stacks. KF procs. PC procs

[ripe obsidian]

And every stack Wildfire puts on an enemy is a stack you don't have to add manually, which means you kill them that much faster due to how Soulblaze scales

[tulip kettle]

and now everything is dead.

[daring nexus]

Does adding a new stack of SB refresh the duration of all the stacks?

[rich spindle]

I believe you’re realistically spreading like 2 stacks to them max, which seems like a pretty negligible dps boost for purg

[tulip kettle]

i didnt clip the game i played with some people here the other day, but i got a 22 gunner killfeed without ever seeing any of them

before they exited the spawn door

that doesnt happen without wildfire

[hearty wolf]

I mean the other thing you need to consider

Is opportunity cost

What are you taking that's better than wildfire

[ripe obsidian]

2 stacks alone is 3 damage per tick. 4 is 11.5. 6 is 25. 2 additional stacks matters.

[daring nexus]

So in the shriek scenario the first six stacks kill the groaners and then the wildfire stacks are able to finish off shotgunners and such?

[hearty wolf]

And that's when you're looking at the low end before it scales higher

[rich spindle]

Applying 2 stacks takes so little time with the infinite cleave aoe staff

[hearty wolf]

You're getting to the higher numbers faster

[rich spindle]

Wiggle your mouse across the screen done

[tulip kettle]

sort of. It means that any specials/eiltes you didnt shriek will get stacks

which will then proc KF

which will then proc PC

[hearty wolf]

But it's not instant and you're limited to your purg staffs range

[tulip kettle]

which will then cause more PC procs

and now they are all dead

[ripe obsidian]

Let's say 2 stacks takes 0.75 seconds to apply. You have now killed the horde almost a second faster. That matters.

[hearty wolf]

I don't think you understand how valuable time is

[daring nexus]

What about if you’re not running kinetic flayer? I use shards

[tulip kettle]

then its worse

but like

what build are you running with multiple sources of soulblaze and shards

[rich spindle]

I think it takes much shorter than that

[tulip kettle]

*that doesnt suck

[rich spindle]

I understand that this is pretty much impossible to reason out with words, I’d love to see some test footage

[hearty wolf]

Time is what kills you in havoc. You bleed out to time because you don't have enough and take a death from a thousand cuts or someone makes one mistake.

Or you die because you didn't have enough time to deal damage. Purg solves both of those problems because it buys your melees time to focus on armour while your soulblaze ramps to deal with the clumps

[rich spindle]

Right now I really don’t think wildfire is much of a dps boost in games

[tulip kettle]

again, wildfire enables interactions

it enables souldrinker

it enables IFR

[hearty wolf]

Wildfire is so hilariously broken in the most understated way

[tulip kettle]

it enables KF

its not just about flat DPS

[rich spindle]

Infinite cleave aoe + pc is doing 99% of the work, imo

[modest perch]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-bravos-gif-24067547

[hearty wolf]

If you don't understand, you don't understand but try and compare two seemingly dense runs and see the difference

It's not an "imo" thing

This is maffs

The uptime has been considered

[tulip kettle]

in those situations where you are directly flaming a blob, yes wildfire is doing less

still not nothing

but thats not what its all about

[ripe obsidian]

I did tests before the tree changed. Wildfire is something like a 5% DPS boost compared with not having it, and like a 3% DPS boost over Warp Battery (which is what I was testing against)

[daring nexus]

Well I don’t run soulblaze unless I’m using purge but I was curious about the trauma or blazing spirit sword build and if wildfire matters there

[rich spindle]

Thank you for taking to me normally ❤️

[tulip kettle]

man just said "blazing spirit sword build"

[hearty wolf]

The fact you can take both now probably means you'd deal more methinks. Faster CD on shriek and you just kill things even faster.

Win more talent

[tulip kettle]

wildfire is very important on blazing trauma

[rich spindle]

I agree with that

[tulip kettle]

blazing swords are not a thing

[hearty wolf]

You don't even use melee

You don't know

[modest perch]

i want to believe ...

[tulip kettle]

i spend about half the game with my melee out

[modest perch]

blazing spirit greatsword + fire trauma can be good bro just trust me bro

[tulip kettle]

granted, im using it to push

[hearty wolf]

Still a ranged bot unit

[rancid jasper]

Only half?

[hearty wolf]

You're like the sentry units in Bloons 😭

[tulip kettle]

be nice to me or i wont carry you to getting 40 after your name again 😠

[daring nexus]

The number one FGS build on game lantern runs blazing spirit so I thought there might be something to it

[modest perch]

nah

[tulip kettle]

yeah no worries dude, game lantern is not the place for builds

but blazing spirit swords are god awful

[modest perch]

we all wish it was good and worked but it just doesnt

[tulip kettle]

i can explain why but i really cba

[hearty wolf]

You just invite me to games where no one moves

[tulip kettle]

just take it from us

[hearty wolf]

It's mental torture

[modest perch]

[tulip kettle]

it sucks and you shouldnt run it

[ripe obsidian]

Well, yes, I pick both now

[rancid jasper]

I really tried to find an excuse with souldrinker

But it still sucks

[rich spindle]

I usually path through empiric shock instead of wildfire

[tulip kettle]

madness

[ripe obsidian]

Souldrinker is great now

I mean

[modest perch]

if youre talking about that silly gandalf or whatever build it can be made good with some adjustments

[ripe obsidian]

It was always great

Just not worth pathing to

But now it's just there

[tulip kettle]

factual

[modest perch]

idk if id say it was great

[rich spindle]

Or is that souldrinker. Idk what the new tree is. It’s all so OP you don’t have to agonize over it anymore

[rancid jasper]

Yes. But doesn't fix blaze spirit swords.

[ripe obsidian]

70% or something uptime

[modest perch]

it was ok

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, didn't realize we were talking about that

[tulip kettle]

now its godlike

like, the majority of your toughness in a game coming from it levels of godlike

[rancid jasper]

Alg, thought the message I was replying to implied that well enough

[rancid jasper]

It was always one of my favourites

Now that it's so easy to get I take it even more

[daring nexus]

Enemies don’t need to die from soulblaze to proc everything they just need to have it when they die right?

[royal totem]

correct

[summer prairie]

It's inconsistent

But doesn't matter

[plucky flax]

Syllo do you want to get carried

[summer prairie]

Yes

[late cypress]

Infinite toughness with infinite damage stacking? Yes please

[tulip kettle]

i like getting carried

[plucky flax]

You should join.

[tulip kettle]

omw

oh

[weary crane]

Wait has the KF peril bug always been there?

[summer prairie]

yes

[weary crane]

They updated it in the last update but ignored the bug

Lol

[ripe obsidian]

What is the peril bug?

I do not know this

[weary crane]

KF procs when you reach crit peril

But doesn't actually do the BB

Tbh idk why the critical peril limitation is there to begin with

Should be removed

[ripe obsidian]

that's annoying

Explains why I was having KF go on CD without doing anything

Thought I was just missing it

[weary crane]

Yeah

[pallid stump]

man

[ripe obsidian]

@tulip kettle I'm sitting at 112 toughness w/ 2 large toughness and 1 small. How are you getting to 120?

[pallid stump]

i really dont like the mk 6 greatsword

[hearty wolf]

What is "infinite"

[tulip kettle]

i have 2 small i checked

my b

[ripe obsidian]

Makes sense

I doubt 112 versus 120 makes any meaningful difference tbh

[weary crane]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kinetic-flayer-talent-proc-is-lost-when-at-critical-peril/112760

[ripe obsidian]

A fucking crusher just overheaded me while a chaos spawn had me

what the fuck

[weary crane]

Yeah I've had that lots of times

In mutie grab too

Even while mid air

[pallid stump]

what

damn

[mental rock]

Can also happen with bursters and flamers

And ofc bombers

[weary crane]

And gunners

[ripe obsidian]

how hateful

ugh, got to the end event in Silo and lost.

[cosmic sigil]

Wait, what??

[marble crater]

Don't listen to that

Finding out By Crack of Bone exists would blow some minds

[plucky flax]

Cracker of Boner.

[patent mango]

this guy gotta be trolling

[cosmic sigil]

How can he justify taking blazing spirit instead of something like shred or precog because it helps building soulblaze stacks and not taking perilous combustion

That he can do havoc with it and think it's good is just him not realizing that scryers+dd is carrying him

[royal totem]

Time to play with his build 😏

[cosmic sigil]

My fucking god emprah

[royal totem]

Looks amazing

[graceful arch]

Wait he takes warp speed over unbound why?

[weary crane]

First havoc of the day

Everyone accepts

Mission aborted

[cosmic sigil]

Because he probably needs more speed with the laspistol.

Bro is dumping mobility on it to get stability to 80 smh

[hazy birch]

Does assail count as a "ranged attack"?

[plucky flax]

Yessir

[rich spindle]

This guy doesn’t really understand psyker from watching some of his vids

[patent mango]

yeah

its a bit of a meme

[timber cairn]

i looked at this build too, it's out-performed in every metric by a purga-build

Short story; Fun, but flawed

[strong gulch]

Mr E (and think tanner too in part) told a bunch people that PC was needed to get get enough SB to do decent damage, but that the caps changed on purg so PC wasn't needed anymore.

edit: Apologies, Mr. E said PC can now (as in a new change) to PC caps. I did a Mr E.

Sooo yeah, I don't trust him for psyker stuff.

I don't watch him, so I idk about other classes. Given how he handles info for psyker, I'm guessing bad.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[weary crane]

Omfg my havoc team

Just watch a vet stare at a sniper for 2 seconds

[verbal thistle]

I find that the best darktide YouTubers don't make build/guide content

They just post challenge runs

Maybe besides the rare Jsat post detailing havoc I think this holds up

[verbal thistle]

Best in terms of knowledge and skill

Not the most popular

Just a funny trend I found out

[rich spindle]

You get popular making build guides by having a nice voice and production quality

[strong gulch]

Mr. E does have a nice voice.

[verbal thistle]

Being enjoyable gets views

[strong gulch]

ye

[verbal thistle]

That's literally what videos are for

[rich spindle]

Add subway surfers to a corner of your vids

[verbal thistle]

Hmmm

I got an idea

[rich spindle]

We need to get you that platinum plaque

[verbal thistle]

I still have a 50 min H40 vet shovel video waiting to upload

I'm thinking of a title and thumbnail

[timber cairn]

health or toughness in H40 nowadays?

[rich spindle]

3x stamina

[timber cairn]

health or toughness in H40 nowadays?

[patent mango]

3x wounds

[rich spindle]

3x stamina

My bad

3x wounds actually

[timber cairn]

go away you overhyped sardine

[rich spindle]

I was trolling

I said sorry

[verbal thistle]

Toughess will always be better then health, especially on psyker now with the damage reduction they get that is both health and toughness

Havoc does not change curios for any class

[summer prairie]

with some EE builds you may not need toughness

[verbal thistle]

Common curio combo is 3 tough. 2 tough/1 HP. 2 tough/1 stam

Stamina is also something that isn't needed anymore

With warp ghost you basically get a free stamina curio

Psyker is a dumb class

Waiter waiter

More buffs please

[rich spindle]

BLOW UP THE SCREEN with this one OP META BUILD [Guide] [HAVOC 40]

[verbal thistle]

I'm thinking Battlefield 1 shovel

Have you listened to that shovel song?

Beings back memories

https://youtu.be/47Th6joy7Aw?si=c26DgNOI89Ob9_7u

[rich spindle]

Never played bf1 😔

[pallid stump]

welp

[pallid stump]

awesome song first of all

second...devil claw, kinetic deflection build

[tulip kettle]

devil claw with KD and stam to do it forever has been a thing for a while, but,

then you have to use dclaw

[verbal thistle]

Which has been null and void when DS exists

But claw is still fun

[ripe obsidian]

did a magistrati H40 rot + stims first try

good team

[verbal thistle]

Anyone want to try 4 flat shield psyker H40 today?

I got 2 spots

[graceful arch]

Local guardsman ravages heretics with shovel, and you have to make the thumbnail super cancer with red arrows circles and emojis

Thems the rules

[cosmic sigil]

What changed with PC? I still use it in my meleeker build and get decent warpfire dmg from it

[ripe obsidian]

Does True Survivor still count if you have no downs but have deaths?

It used to

[graceful arch]

Kejetok would probably know

[timber cairn]

Purg - Blaze away or penetrating flame

[ripe obsidian]

I already have TS, was just wondering if that run would've counted.

[graceful arch]

Blaze away

[ripe obsidian]

Only death was from a pogryn kicking someone into the abyss

[graceful arch]

You never drop blaze away

[ripe obsidian]

Always Blaze Away

[graceful arch]

[ripe obsidian]

Second can be Warp Nexus or Pen Flames, but imo Warp Nexus is better

with a coordinated team, pen flames could be better

as it is unique brittleness

stacks on top of other sources

[graceful arch]

Pen flames is more for bubble staff anyways if you go shriek you should always CRIT stack.

[ripe obsidian]

Stack the flames

[graceful arch]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

Sad part about bubble, especially on boss-heavy or rotten armor maps, is that veterans and arbiters can outdamage you

:(

I'm pretty pleased with my last run. Team knew what was up. I bring bubble on Magistrati, and they let me just put down bubbles and clear hordes while they trio'd bosses

[young cliff]

There's nothing bad on doing housekeeping work and cleaning the fodder so only plasteel remains

[ripe obsidian]

80% uptime on psykinetic's aura, 78% uptime on Souldrinker

[graceful arch]

Psykinetic downtime shouldn't really exist as long as there's a single elite on screen now a days

So yeah

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it's just silly

[graceful arch]

Nice nerf fs

They just made it more consistent

[ripe obsidian]

I had like 50-60% uptime pre-patch

[young cliff]

Legit can keep building a house with the wall shields with that CDR

[graceful arch]

Sure you get your shriek up slightly slower but you will have it up more on account of the fact there's no downtime on your cdr.

[ripe obsidian]

jeez, I had 44% combat uptime on being in bubbles

that's pretty silly

half the game in bubble

[graceful arch]

You had nearly 50% uptime on yellow toughness not accounting for overlap

[fierce crest]

bubble buff lingers slightly

[ripe obsidian]

book zealot and VoC vet

loads of toughness

Was a good team

[strong gulch]

Nothing changed with PC when that video was made.

[timber cairn]

what's the name of that build inspector mod?

the one that allows u to inspect builds from social menu

[quartz barn]

inspect from social?

[strong gulch]

Just did silo cluster with the inferno modifier. Idk if DD targeting itself is different or if the highlights themselves were fecked, but I kept getting sections where there was no highlighted targets despite bruisers and stalker being around (not the mobian dudes). Had more incidents of far away targets getting marked too.

Kinda felt like older DD but worse.

[timber cairn]

lmao

thx

[quartz barn]

ye i just googled what you said and its the first result lmao

havoc gaming

[strong gulch]

Inspect from social is nice.

There's also one for party finder.

[pallid stump]

it was fun

especially with smite

[ripe obsidian]

I will not mind when rotten armor drops from the rotation

[pallid stump]

team mates is screaming at you from vc to help with the data interogattor? smite

your psyker went down again and you need someone to revive them? smite

yuo want to trigger a bunch of ragers to be able to spam parry? smite

other than that? hack and slash

[tulip kettle]

but how can i damage farm with uncanny pushing 😠

nah fr i like that rot armour lets vets compete with psyker for top dmg

[ripe obsidian]

It feels fine when you have a coordinated team that knows roles

it feels frustrating otherwise

[timber cairn]

thoughts on this build? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0376f90-71aa-4cd5-ac32-29b44c48f53c/novellos-meleepsyker

[ripe obsidian]

I have meleeker builds in the pinned guide if you want to compare

some I made as well as a number of builds from better meleekers in here

[verbal thistle]

The glass cannon not made of glass

[ripe obsidian]

It is in there!

You are one of the better players!

[verbal thistle]

Ye

[hazy birch]

Took 30 seconds to visit the veteran channel. Immediate regret ☠️

[verbal thistle]

Why so?

We're just having a realistic view on the current darktide balance

Psyker is leagues above everyone else while having nearly no downsides

Update after update it's psyker buffs

And it's ruining people's view on difficulty and balance

[hazy birch]

I just saw fire and brimstone towards psyker lol

IDK that I'd say the class has no down sides

[verbal thistle]

compared to others

yes

[hazy birch]

It's arsenal is pretty lacking

[verbal thistle]

everyone talking rn have thousands of hours across all classes

and have been playing since launch

[hazy birch]

And it doesn't have nearly the immortality capabilities of others

[verbal thistle]

It will take time before you can realize

you are still a bit of a new player

[summer prairie]

they are talking nonsense though

[hazy birch]

I started playing a year ago. I'm just not into deep havoc yet

Hell I don't even think that was a thing when I started

[verbal thistle]

which is all good

probably not

havoc is new ish

I forgot when they added it

[summer prairie]

soon a year

[hazy birch]

I do think vet got the shit end of the stick but it's not like he doesn't have some good stuff. But as someone who has played every class into endgame except vet, they are all pretty strong imo

[summer prairie]

vet is op

[loud girder]

vet is giga strong rn

[hazy birch]

Of the classes I've played i think ogryn the least experienced

[verbal thistle]

Vet has obvious weakness, like how the only source of DR they have is toughness based

[hazy birch]

IDK about strength I'm just talking about interesting mechanics

[verbal thistle]

and is very finicky

being coherency and if they are above 75% toughness

without that they are wet noodles

but they have strong ranged and melee options, and debatably the strongest melee (Psword)

[hazy birch]

Sounds difficult to manage

[loud girder]

exe stance is fun
shout is fun and relible

being a hybrid grandier class is fun

vet aint lacking

[wet belfry]

Vet has a lack of weapon variety in havoc mainly.

Wish some outlier weapons would be buffed

[loud girder]

that's the case with everyone tho

[verbal thistle]

indeed

[hazy birch]

Different strokes ig.

[loud girder]

u can run whatever in havoc but the mode favors meta if u wanna min max

[verbal thistle]

most people dont want to bring the non op things since they wont get enough wins without them

[patent mango]

vet is defo one of the classes in the game warhammer darktide

[verbal thistle]

DS/Psword

[hazy birch]

Probably why I'll never see Max havoc levels. I don't even run prefab builds much less meta weapons

[royal totem]

@hazy birch wanna havoc sometime?

[wet belfry]

I dunno, i feel like i can get some outlier weapons to work in havoc with zealot.

[patent mango]

if pfalchion was better and plasma gun reworok gets through it'd be way nicer

[crisp ether]

Honestly, that is actually one of vet's strong points rn.

Their arsenal can be pretty varied for havoc

[royal totem]

which ones?

[crisp ether]

Yes the plasma gun is still like

[hazy birch]

When?

[wet belfry]

Crusher, eviscerator, thunder hammer

[crisp ether]

The cream of the crop generally but there are other options that hold up in havoc well

[royal totem]

whenever really. my schedule is very free outside my afternoon naps

[hazy birch]

I'm on currently if you want to run a few

[royal totem]

i'm using thunder hammer right now and i'm using eviscerator on another build

[hazy birch]

Testing psyker shit

[royal totem]

down to do so

be forewarned i'm on my zealot though

[hazy birch]

From what I've seen at these levels I don't think it will be an issue

[wet belfry]

Running shotgun or helbore on a ranged veteran is pain.

[hazy birch]

Though, new psyker builds been volatile for me

[royal totem]

inv me whenever

[chrome sail]

Wtb force rod weapons so I can bonk some heretics.

[hazy birch]

Alr one min

[patent mango]

wts force rod weapon 300 aquilas grey

[vernal temple]

maximum Melk bucks achieved

[chrome sail]

This is high way robbery. I’m alerting the inquisition

[patent mango]

inquisition gets a 30% cut

[hazy birch]

Says ur offline

[crisp ether]

says you

[vernal temple]

I'm a loner psyker, I do not serve your CoRpSe GoD

[cosmic sigil]

Hear me out. Exec stance in Inferno. Everything is yellow. Thank god for mods.

[patent mango]

eermmm beloved says 🤓

[royal totem]

i assure you i am not offline ._.

[wet belfry]

Yeah, well anytime i do run that i just want to pull out my melee weapon and just play melee vet instead.

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRh0QiXyZSk

[royal totem]

but i do know it does that sometimes

[royal totem]

oh. neither of those are me

[hazy birch]

Oh I'm trippin I guess

[vernal temple]

unironically love the song

[hazy birch]

What's ur friend id

Thought I added u

[ripe obsidian]

it's a very good song. And very relevant to your melk bucks

[royal totem]

its whats next to my name xD

[patent mango]

credit card info

[vernal temple]

You load 500,000 Melk Bucks and what do you get?

[hazy birch]

Sent

[royal totem]

this build is unapologetically bad except bonking bosses

[hazy birch]

Mines a horde slaying machine

[ripe obsidian]

We don't deserve Kuli. These guides are so good.

[wet belfry]

Revive speed is very good

[verbal thistle]

it got its needed buff

[ripe obsidian]

I have changed my curios to 2x toughness/1x health + 3x gunner/3x CDR/1x toughness/2x revive speed

Might even drop the third smol toughness for revive speed

not sure

They're only 4 toughness each, so 120 down to 112 currenty.

[crisp ether]

I religiously run revive speed on my classes now tbh

at least one

[white sky]

I religiously run 3

[verbal thistle]

funny

I wasnt even full toughness

[tulip kettle]

is this not using JAD bug though?

[summer prairie]

that's auric?

[verbal thistle]

auric scaling

[verbal thistle]

Jad bug?

[tulip kettle]

like that if you arent at crit peril it gives the full dr for even gaining 0.01% peril

you go down from 97 a split second before it hits you which puts you back at 97 so you get 25% DR from it

[summer prairie]

When I was testing it, it wasn't proccing JaD at all at 97%

[tulip kettle]

yeah hes at 96.8 when he gets hit

[verbal thistle]

I can do it without JAD

to see

one sec

[tulip kettle]

it puts him back to 97

[summer prairie]

Do the same with a vet

[tulip kettle]

?

[summer prairie]

Ainz

[tulip kettle]

plenty of classes can survive overheads with the right set up

[summer prairie]

yes and they have more toughness/hp

[tulip kettle]

im not out here saying psyker isnt really strong or anything but surviving overheads with the perfect set up isnt like, crazy or anything

[verbal thistle]

it would be a normal build

just take bubble, path to syphon, and take the DR talent

and be high peril

[tulip kettle]

so the only DR here is OWtW and JAD?

[summer prairie]

Not sure why Auric even matters

[tulip kettle]

and JAD is definitely giving you 25% DR here

[verbal thistle]

Immaterial is also working

it works at any peril %

[tulip kettle]

so you have like, 70% effective DR or something for this hit

[verbal thistle]

I have all 3 DR talents, bubble TDR, and the grey node TDR

[tulip kettle]

oh even more then

[crisp ether]

Ah yes, I'd like my glass cannon.

But hold the glass.

[tulip kettle]

this is a perfect scenario of hard stacking every bit of DR and TDR possible

[summer prairie]

every class can do this and the bubble tdr is irrelevant

[tulip kettle]

zel can do this but even better

[verbal thistle]

bonk, same setup, but no JAD

[crisp ether]

vet can't. zealot, arby and ogryn can muster up dr like this but ofc, they don't have the damage potential that psyker does

[tulip kettle]

yeah its JAD being broken

fair enough

[burnt gazelle]

did they buff scriers again; i feel like i have much more uptime recently

[verbal thistle]

yes

[crisp ether]

Extremely, yes

[verbal thistle]

waiter waiter, more gaze buffs

[summer prairie]

vet can

[tulip kettle]

and vet rn actually rivals psyker for dmg output in H40 rot

in a way its better because their dmg is immediate and into crusher blobs instead of farming off trash

[crisp ether]

they have absolutely no pure damage reduction

that's the thing actually keeping vet in check at this point

[summer prairie]

so

[verbal thistle]

testing vet rn

1 min

[burnt gazelle]

oh i see they changed how psykinetics works to benefit scriers more? LOL

[verbal thistle]

yes

I cant get this in testing

[summer prairie]

why not, add bots

[verbal thistle]

in psyc?

[summer prairie]

with the mod

[verbal thistle]

which one?

I might not have

never done it before

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz and Syllogism, what are you running for Psyker curios currently? I am curious

[strong gulch]

Another gaze buff would be funny.

We might have to write a collective letter or something.

[crisp ether]

I think they're talking about true solo

[summer prairie]

I forgot the name, it just spawns bots

[burnt gazelle]

i was playing some scriers trauma and it was so stupid, i think i almost never stopped being in warp unbound

[crisp ether]

But not with the QoL

I think?

[summer prairie]

Bot Spawner

[patent mango]

maybe they should just remove the 50% quell from scriers

[crisp ether]

Oh it really is just called, Bot Spawner

[burnt gazelle]

i don't feel like it needed to be even less likely to headsplode than shriek

[verbal thistle]

3 tough, +3 toughness +3 gunner res, +3 cdr

[strong gulch]

Getting arby bots in the psyk with the invisible dog is funny.

[crisp ether]

50% quell on activate for Scrier's is honestly completely unnecessary given how easy it is to overlap with Warp Unbound

[patent mango]

idek where they should nerf psykuh

[ripe obsidian]

gotcha. 98 health feels spooky to me, hence the big health curio. Still weighing if 3x smol toughness or 3x revive speed or a mix of the two is better

[burnt gazelle]

it won't be nearly enough but they should at least remove rending soulblaze

[crisp ether]

Yes, let's make the ability that's all about taking risk, and completely neuter the risk!

[summer prairie]

cdr revive speed and whatever on purg/trauma, on surge surge I've been running health and corruption res because toughness feels irrelevant. Could also run that with bubble knight I guess

[verbal thistle]

with the DR you get, iirc you can survive 2 bursters

[tulip kettle]

for me with 1 hp curio and 1 corr res i can survive 1 burster but not 2

[summer prairie]

with health+corruption res you won't get deleted by a crusher overhead in h40

[tulip kettle]

need to look into this

[summer prairie]

so if you don't need toughness for gunners, it's fine

[patent mango]

yknow

psyker rework isnt actually done yet

what if it gets buffed in the next update

[swift stag]

Then it would be broken

[crisp ether]

[swift stag]

Im fine with it

[tulip kettle]

is it possible to survive an H40 overhead without JAD? i dont think it is

[wet belfry]

I hope for more talents that synergize with non crit playstyles for melee weapons.

[summer prairie]

Survive as in not go down or not get deleted

[tulip kettle]

yeah i just realised you meant not get deleted

not "not go down"

[verbal thistle]

no close order drill, and not full toughness

but bad talent pathing

[patent mango]

i dont think thhats gonna happen honestly

[verbal thistle]

small grey nodes + stealth

[patent mango]

the entire right side is crit stuff in some way

[weary idol]

ogryn and arbites

[patent mango]

the only real way would be to make soulblaze melee functional

since people do quite want that

[swift stag]

Inb4 they give psyker vets stealth

[patent mango]

oh god please no we shouldnt have 2 of those eto begin with

[swift stag]

Shadow caster

[patent mango]

😨

[crisp ether]

what's the pathing on this

dear god

[verbal thistle]

forgot those

[weary idol]

Opening Salvo?

[verbal thistle]

testing build

[weary idol]

Oh intentionally bad talent pathing

[verbal thistle]

max DR

[weary idol]

You forgot ET

[verbal thistle]

forgot

yeah

[stark crown]

Undeniable proof we should nerf vet

Toughness stacking will never not be funny but not the best idea on Vet

[pure plinth]

voidstrike really is that bad huh

[long saddle]

it's not worse than some guns

but it's p limited with what you can do

[burnt gazelle]

I think that for psyker to be healthy all the staves need to be somewhere below voidstrike's current power level

[summer prairie]

then only melee psyker is good, which is fine i guess

[burnt gazelle]

hopefully melee psyker also doesn't continue to get a buff every patch

but idk really how you fix psyker so it doesn't feel wildly stronger than all the other classes

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is, uh, pretty bad.

[long saddle]

psyker has suffered for long enough, don't beg for nerfs already

[summer prairie]

change SB ADMs so it has more targets that it does nothing against

is a start

[burnt gazelle]

make rending stop working on soulblaze

won't be sufficient but seems necessary

[summer prairie]

well obviously

[ripe obsidian]

That's like 90% an uncanny strikes issue

[summer prairie]

change scab rager default armor type to cara

[long saddle]

what does that have to do with psyker tho

unless you want even more SB immune stuff

[summer prairie]

I do

[burnt gazelle]

psyker invalidates like the whole base game

[young cliff]

Suffered? Payker was ALWAYS the cool guy

[swift stag]

Idk ogryn became pretty cool 😎

[long saddle]

the build diversity wasn't great, you had to do some annoying stuff often

[young cliff]

Ogryn is the coolest guy

[tulip kettle]

hot take

psyker is fine and everyone needs to stop crying about it

[young cliff]

Even now psyker has 2 build paths, with some specific minor adjustments

[dull nest]

can you use kinetic flayer to complete power up and prioritise targets penances?

[swift stag]

This, but well see what new class is

[weary crane]

There are too many psykers for havoc lobbies

Need to be given to the golden throne

[tulip kettle]

this is also not true

the issue is that multiple psykers running inferno doesnt work

[young cliff]

There's not so many Sparkhead players

[tulip kettle]

you can run 2 of any class with no issues

2 DS plasma shout vets? awesome

2 psykers with inferno? bad.

[swift stag]

I feel like I see more zealots than psykers

[ornate hamlet]

There’s a lot of zealots and vets out there. And Arby’s.

Ogryns are kinda rare I find! And psykers, while rare, always seem to show up in groups of 3 in matches I play

[ripe obsidian]

I see mostly vets, arbiters, and psykers. Some zealots, some ogryns.

[swift stag]

This i guess but i. That lobby its either 3 vets or 3 zealots usually and I'm the psyker

Finding a duo of ogryns is a treat tho

[modest perch]

i wanna try smyker with 3 krak vets

i feel like it would work

[swift stag]

3 psykers and a pick orgy is my fav tho

[modest perch]

pick orgy

[swift stag]

[modest perch]

tbh with the huge scab hp buffs even the pick feels weak in rotten armor

feels bad man

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike. :<

[tulip kettle]

rot armour + stims i think 2 vets minimum is the way to go to make it easier

krak spam is no joke

[modest perch]

yea except when demo team just stops working

[ripe obsidian]

I just did one earlier with all classes but arbiter

was super smooth

[tulip kettle]

yeah the OG comp also feels great

[ripe obsidian]

Was on Magistrati, so I took bubble

[tulip kettle]

but, dog arbs can be very good vs stims

[modest perch]

im wondering if like 2 club ogryns might be the way with one using cs n go again n the other using thunderous n valuable distraction

[tulip kettle]

pinning blue ragers to the floor really solves problems

[modest perch]

kinda wanna try a 4 arfbitrator stack

[tulip kettle]

i do think though that in rot specifically vet is really, really good

[acoustic jacinth]

I'm ngl, SG is feeling way better than i thought it would. And i'm saying this comparatively to shriek even. EK staff + FGS with warp unbound finesse bonus SG was nuts. Took warp siphon for perma uptime. 3000+ dmg per fgs heavy

And of course endless m2 ek spam

[verbal thistle]

yes

more gaze buff please

[acoustic jacinth]

I had too much bias towards shriek ngl

Kinda blinded by it

[verbal thistle]

shriek doesnt do much outside comboed with EK staff

[ripe obsidian]

needs secret team comp names like in Darkest Dungeon.

[verbal thistle]

and max soulblaze stack for purg I guess

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek the world

[verbal thistle]

but gaze gives too many buffs to be comparable to the other abiltiies

gaze is like a keystone

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah, i use it on my inferno cause im not a bubble psyker but goddamn sg with ek + fgs was holy moly

Brain off, max peril buffs, nonstop ek m2s

Hitting crushers from afar for 2500 damage

[tulip kettle]

no you arent

[acoustic jacinth]

On crit

Yes

Warp siphon

Is there too

I would take a video but i am in bed

[nocturne dust]

Shriek still does more damage, but a lot of it tends to be "useless" damage on enemies liable to die anyway

Very good for the scoreboard tho

[verbal thistle]

yes

[hazy birch]

That was a mess

[royal totem]

that vet

lmao

[hazy birch]

?

[royal totem]

he just kept dying

over and over

[hazy birch]

Yea it shouldn't have been that difficult

[royal totem]

that arb made pretty questionable choices too though

i died early on cuz i downed and he just let me bleed out

even with full toughness just stood there and kinda watched me and the vet bleed out

[long saddle]

I wonder if I should try a warp rupture shriek build that has no SB

maybe rending trauma

[tulip kettle]

shriek without creeping flames is so very, very bad

[royal totem]

why no SB though

[hazy birch]

I was constantly overwhelmed

[long saddle]

just to see if it'd do something interesting and not just a straight downgrade

[hazy birch]

My damage is good but I can't solo the entire screen lol

[royal totem]

VB isn't a good wep. and on top of that your VB isn't maxed either

errr

VS not vb

[patent mango]

vintage story???

[royal totem]

voidstrike

[lone burrow]

fellow vintage story enjoyer spotted

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/m0DE3cfDQBw.gif

[hazy birch]

im testing it. but i rarely use it anyways

[royal totem]

if you just want a weapon to like have range and hit ranged things pretty sure EK LMB would be better.

[hazy birch]

want a good single target option with versatility. frankly i dont think my ek does much single target

but regardless, i was top damage until we wiped. both games.

[royal totem]

i mean.....i'm an infiltrate zealot. i'm not gonna top damage

[hazy birch]

took a while but the arb did eventually surpass me while i was dead lol

[royal totem]

but you didn't have to worry about bosses so i did my job

[hazy birch]

yea but i need to be able to do it all for pubs.

if i specialize in bosses then im useless the rest of the game which is 95% of the game

i just need to be able to do meaninful damage

[royal totem]

i also stealthed a few objectives and such

[hazy birch]

most my build revolves around melee and assail

[royal totem]

so ya know

[hazy birch]

yea i aint sweatin it

[marble crater]

Play gunker

[hazy birch]

ijs i like to focus on the horde clear while trying to maximize whatever i can for bigger stuff. which is tough

[royal totem]

i mean, FGS does respectable damage against hordes and bosses

or well really single target

[hazy birch]

i mean its boss damage is okayish ig

[long saddle]

psyker is usually not a boss killer unless FGS or gunker

[hazy birch]

never feels amazing

but its a horde nightmare

im using FGS

but i dont have a build designed to giga stack a snapshot to one shot bosses

[long saddle]

that's not what psyker does

[hazy birch]

def aint what mine does lol

but im pumping into the horde like a madman

which im good with

[long saddle]

no I mean no psykers are really oneshot stuff

[royal totem]

FGS won't one shot bosses

[lone burrow]

i pump gallons into the horde

[royal totem]

infiltrate zealot is really the only 1 shot bosses thing

[long saddle]

like FGS is the closest you get to oneshotting stuff, and that still needs a lot of DD stacks

[lone burrow]

gallons of ozone from my EK

[hazy birch]

idk what my actual damage is vs bosses but i know its not spectacular

[long saddle]

stuff as in ogryns

psyker isn't expected to be a boss killer

[royal totem]

you should really try a gun instead of voidstrike but if you're having fun with it shrugs

[hazy birch]

to the point i dont even usually hit them unless theres nothing else to hit

[long saddle]

it handles hordes around the bosses

[hazy birch]

i usually just focus on helping keep trash away from the team so they can deal with the boss

[long saddle]

yeah that's perf fine

[hazy birch]

yea aint lyin. i been considering bringing a gun

[royal totem]

that's fine and all, like the thing is as long as my team can create an opening for me (and it's not a captain) i can normally 1 shot or nearly 1 shot bosses

[hazy birch]

it just feels dirty. i mean i have gun classes.

[royal totem]

just bring a gun. it's better than VS

[hazy birch]

im just testing void strike. normally i run ek or flame

BUT i dont like EKs damage

its mediocre at best

[long saddle]

it's all relative

it's not a boss killer

[hazy birch]

compared to what a bolt gun can do

its pretty shit lol

[long saddle]

yeah because psyker doesn't have a need for such

[royal totem]

there's nothing that really compares to a bolt gun on psyker i don't think

[hazy birch]

i mean we got bolt pistol

the only gun id even consider using

[royal totem]

bolt pistol just......isn't bolt gun

[hazy birch]

but i use that on other classes. i want this one to feel unique

[hazy birch]

no but its still better than most these staves lol

[royal totem]

could try laspistol or recon lasgun...

[hazy birch]

i dont do lasguns

[royal totem]

why? lol

[hazy birch]

talk about limp noodles

[long saddle]

you're having a lot of preconceived notion for no real reason

[hazy birch]

ive used em

[vital kayak]

combat shotgun is good imo

[hazy birch]

they felt weak af

[long saddle]

because recon lasgun gunker shreds bosses

with DD stacks

[royal totem]

^^

[solid pond]

las pistol with DD and scriers fucks too

[long saddle]

like fine if you wanna roleplay a wizard with all warp weapons or whatever

[hazy birch]

stacks are alright

might drop the 25 stack boost tho. i get uptime but idk if its worth the point

there are times i make good use of it tho

[hazy birch]

i just feel like ive got other classes to play rambo on. arbiter and zealot namely

also have an ogryn but thats its own thing

i just want this to feel different

[long saddle]

it's not really a rambo thing, gunker is a crit synergy machine

[hazy birch]

i imagine this is a specific meta build people run

[long saddle]

I mean it's just right side of the tree

[solid pond]

no

[long saddle]

you can go very wide with gunkers

[ripe obsidian]

Agri combat shotgun is quite good

[solid pond]

only scriers I ever see is people being cringe with smite

[hazy birch]

but then im not doin much with my blitz

[solid pond]

nobody got balls enough to run melee or gunker

even though both are giga fucked

[long saddle]

idk where you are playing but I see plenty

[hazy birch]

my build is pretty heavy melee

[ripe obsidian]

Do you not have Psykinetic's Aura?

[long saddle]

and both are good

[hazy birch]

i usually dump assail then dive into the horde and start swingin

[solid pond]

im honestly glad I don't

people suck

[long saddle]

uh ok

I'd take a gunker over a smyker so

[hazy birch]

idk what that is

[solid pond]

so would I

but id take a purga over both

[hazy birch]

oh the 60% cd

[ripe obsidian]

The cooldown reduction talent. It's not in your chart

[hazy birch]

no not on this build. but whats that got to do with DD stack uptime?

[solid pond]

its just very consistent CDR

why would you not want it?

[ripe obsidian]

DD? Nothing. But combat abilities, everything

[hazy birch]

should only be affecting my combat ability

which i really dont need more CD on

[ripe obsidian]

That's... quite a take

Which ability this this?

SG?

[hazy birch]

vent

[long saddle]

there's been a lot of takes in this convo

[ripe obsidian]

Lordy.

[hazy birch]

its almost always off cd

[solid pond]

has there?

[long saddle]

that explains why your perfect timing stacks are low if you're not even running SG

[solid pond]

are you using warp siphon?

[hazy birch]

what would that have to do with those stacks?

those are based off me last hitting marked targets

[rancid wadi]

Hey mr psyker gimme a build

[ripe obsidian]

Psykinetic’s Aura takes Shriek, without Siphon, from a 30 second cooldown to like a 19 second cooldown

[ripe obsidian]

Is in pins!

[long saddle]

perfect timing is +dmg on crits

[rancid wadi]

Thank you mr psyker

[ripe obsidian]

I have 50+ builds in the pins!

You are welcome

[hazy birch]

no

[solid pond]

what even in the fuck

[hazy birch]

really only using vent as an oh shit button. im not trying to spam it

[rancid wadi]

Dang you wasnt kidding it has errything

[solid pond]

you're just losing out on so much for no reason

[long saddle]

yeah crits are lacking, ability spam is lacking

[solid pond]

you'd have to be doing ungodly amounts of other things to make up for nuking your ability, and at that point, you'd benefit more from SG anyway which also dumps the same amount of peril no?

[rancid wadi]

Now what do I even wanna play as psyker

Need a bubker, gunker, flamker

Uhhh

[long saddle]

bubble knight is fun

[rancid wadi]

Assailker

[solid pond]

bubker and flamker are one in the same

[long saddle]

doesn't have to be

[solid pond]

just flavourtext the shriek in place if running shriek

[rancid wadi]

Oh yeah kinda

[pallid stump]

does anyone know if warp battery makes the "powered up" penance harder?

[long saddle]

bubble purg is super boring

yes

but not really

[hazy birch]

ive tested it. my only issue with it is its annoying to use

[long saddle]

6 stacks isn't hard to reach really

[pallid stump]

true

[long saddle]

compared to 4

[hazy birch]

at least vent gives me some cc to work with

[rancid wadi]

Did the uhhh guy who made the doom guy psyker build update it?

Loved running it

[royal totem]

there is no gun in psyker's arsenal that will be able to really delete a horde of crushers. no staff either btw

[pallid stump]

especially with inferno staff and infire reborn no?

[solid pond]

how is a steroid annoying to use?

press button, hit enemy

[royal totem]

i guess rending trauma would probably be the closest to it

[pallid stump]

or is the psychic vampire talent better?

[ripe obsidian]

I put a lot of time into making it. I hope it's helpful

[rancid wadi]

Definately is mr frog

[long saddle]

if you have enough SB then IFR is better

[royal totem]

IFR better iirc

[ripe obsidian]

...do you not have Creeping Flames? I don't see the Shriek buff in your uptime that paths to Creeping Flames.

Also, if it's just an "Oh Shit" button, SG also immediately vents 50% peril...

[hazy birch]

probably not

[solid pond]

he's just using shriek as a vent dump

[ripe obsidian]

I see.

[pallid stump]

lower cooldown too

im just a shitter my opinion doesnt actually matter on whats good or not

[long saddle]

you realistically have very little downtime with SG anyway

[solid pond]

he'd have the entire downtime for it because he isn't running Psyk aura

😭

[hazy birch]

as stated, SG is annoying to deal with and offers nothing but the damage. ive used it. not averse to using it i just find watching my peril skyrocket for no reason annoying. and in my tests i didnt feel some amazing damage difference

[long saddle]

ye lol

[ripe obsidian]

I mean. For a melee build, SG is significantly better, especially if not using Shriek for horde clear with flames.

[pallid stump]

oh yeah fore sure

btw six, wanted to hear from you

[long saddle]

peril skyrocketing is a good thing tho

warp ghost is great for a reason

[solid pond]

high peril, more damage/crit and TDR

[long saddle]

there's so much high peril synergy

[solid pond]

this too, warp ghost my beloved

[rancid wadi]

To be a fish or a seagull

[long saddle]

like practice being at around 80% peril at all times

[ripe obsidian]

I will offer what wisdom I have

[solid pond]

a sheep

[hazy birch]

i try to keep it over 50

[pallid stump]

whats better, psychic vampire or in flames reborn? considering i am using inferno staff i recokon IFR?

[solid pond]

if the tentacles aren't earraping me every 5 seconds im playing wrong

[hazy birch]

but running at 100 for several seconds is nerve racking

[long saddle]

IFR yes

[hazy birch]

and if i fuck up and go too far i just die. and feel stupid.

rather not

[rancid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-thumbs-up-good-job-well-done-yes-gif-10446080204605793809

[ripe obsidian]

IFR is always better if you have a source of Soulblaze on your team. IFR only needs an enemy to be on fire, not die to it, and does not have a coherency range limit

Psychic Vampire feels bad imo

[solid pond]

SG also has a 10 second no overload node lol

[rancid wadi]

I'll tell my kids this primarch lion

[long saddle]

if you have warp unbound on SG there's a mod that shows a timer

[hazy birch]

yea but no warning for when its about to drop off

[pallid stump]

just...dont...quelling is really fast isnt it?

[long saddle]

but yes 10 seconds critical peril save is so nice

[rancid wadi]

Is cleverly named?

[solid pond]

even no mod, its a priority buff on the bottom, with a red icon that you can see dropping off

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, and IFR works regardless of who put the soulblaze on the enemy. So if you have a 0 soulblaze build and an ally has Inferno, you will still get IFR bonuses

[hazy birch]

like i said, thats the annoying part. trying to get the most out of being at max like that without overloading. i just dont like the ability.

[rancid wadi]

Nah pop off

[pallid stump]

i mostly use that to keep blasting for 2 secs and then think "NOPE TIME TO QUELL I DONT WANNA GO BOOM" and use none of the critical peril bonuses

[rancid wadi]

I like pop off

Makes me feel like sienna

[pallid stump]

pop off?

[rancid wadi]

Vent

[pallid stump]

oh...shit

cool

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it's quite good.

[solid pond]

sienna wishes

[pallid stump]

fair enough

[rancid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/sienna-kerillian-vermintide-rat-gif-23310770

[ripe obsidian]

Psychic Vampire, I feel, offers very little. If I am not killing elites/specials, I get like 2 stacks by the time my cooldown is finished

Pretty eh

[pallid stump]

i came around on warp ghost and WG + ER

ER itself...no

[pallid stump]

true...well maybe its better on hordes..?

[royal totem]

sigh........ i might start learning how to use FGS

[pallid stump]

idk

[royal totem]

feels like treason

[solid pond]

yeah I use WG/ER on my bubble/purga build

[hazy birch]

warp ghost just sounds horrible

[solid pond]

many flaming for many time

[solid pond]

💀

[pallid stump]

why so?

[hazy birch]

almost zero passive quelling

[solid pond]

only because you're not running CDR

goober

[rancid wadi]

Which class got the eisenhorn getup?

Was it vet?

[solid pond]

you can also just

quell

manually?

[pallid stump]

this

[hazy birch]

yea

[solid pond]

which lets you control the peril you're at?

wild

[pallid stump]

and makes you not...explode?

[ripe obsidian]

Eh, I was running it on H40 with a rending trauma build. It wasn't impressive

[hazy birch]

i guess if u are okay with that. not my playstyle

[pallid stump]

isnt quelling like the biggest thing on psyker?

[ripe obsidian]

I believe so.

[solid pond]

the whosnwhat?

[solid pond]

tap quelling on staffs my beloved

[long saddle]

I'm only skipping warp ghost if I have crit focused SB builds where I want to use all of my peril gauge for like trauma or EK

[hazy birch]

if im quelling, im not doing damage

[solid pond]

also right above ER is 30% quell speed lol

[pallid stump]

like...the one thing that makes psyker be psyker

[hazy birch]

i suppose if i was running a gun build or something that didnt require me to keep increasing my peril to actually do damage, such a thing would be better.

[pallid stump]

well....if you're waiting for passive quelling which is slower its also les damage

[long saddle]

I feel like you don't really know when you're doing damage or not

[pallid stump]

i cant type

[long saddle]

when you're running suboptimal meleekers and stuff

[hazy birch]

its just additive with my other stuff thats quelling for me

[junior linden]

kid named warp rider:

[hazy birch]

like quelling on kill and whatnot