psyker-class

[royal totem]

cuz i feel like if those are the things you struggle with maybe obscurus is a better answer for your melee weapon

[languid pine]

rending shockwave

[austere warren]

I'm planning on stress testing it soon.

It's probably my favorite staff next to EK and trauma staff.

Err, voidblast.

:^)

[sleek lynx]

Idk I just use bolt pistol

[austere warren]

I like my fireball staff that does void bullshit.

[sleek lynx]

I see elite, I click them and they die

[restive stag]

likely true yeah, i just still feel oddly weak

[austere warren]

Yeah that works too. Right tree builds are great.

[languid pine]

voidblast is trauma staff
voidstrike is you shooting your big blue balls

[austere warren]

And right tree got even dumber so I'm thriving forever rn.

Two major patches dropped and I'm still on that shit lmao

Assail, whatever the crit aura is, scrier gaze variations n all, disrupt destiny setups and whatever amount of melee and gun I want.

It all lines up perfectly for me. So much sauce and variety. I fucking love this class because of it.

Force weapon builds with left and middle are awesome too, but i just can't put right tree down most days. I gotta be really on my "all psyker is good psyker" shit for that.

[sleek lynx]

I prefer the cooldown aura so I can have 100% uptime on scrier’s

I kinda find the staves boring but I like moonlight so I went all into that

[austere warren]

I prefer the game of racing against stacks and having that felt rush of ramp the moment I decide it's time.

And I like the sound of crits and crit peril asmr

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-run-jujutsu-kaisen-shibuya-infinite-void-run-gif-8962614469119328602

Just zoomin and groovin

[restive stag]

nothing beats the pitter-patter of vraks as my peril dances up and down and everything explodes and dies

[austere warren]

The vibe is too sweet.

Psychically enhanced death dealer with gunpowder and cold steel? Shit I'm in.

The flavor and the immersion are too sick

Bonus points for all the weapons that really reward headshot city behavior.

[strong gulch]

even

[austere warren]

Playing that fast and accurate is amazing.

[austere warren]

Graming.

[restive stag]

i kinda miss my illisi

[sleek lynx]

What blessings do y’all take on bolt pistol? Like just in general not necessarily just for psyker

[royal totem]

point blank and puncture

[austere warren]

I like lethal proximity snd puncture/whatever that bonus dmg on stagger one does.

[royal totem]

execution?

[austere warren]

Yeah.

I wanna do that one arbites especially.

Since the class just has tons of bonus stagger dmg talents anyway.

[royal totem]

idk on arbites i pull my gun out to kill specials or gunners

[austere warren]

Run 'n Gun and Lethal Proximity are really fun too. LP is probably the one blessing i almost never ignore.

[austere warren]

Yeah, that's the main point already I'm mostly talking about things like using execution in tandem with their stagger friendly talents.

[royal totem]

mmmm. idk i just run puncture and point blank on arbites on the rare ocassion i have bistol

[modest merlin]

This is exactly how I feel with my melee crit psyker with all the movement speed buffs you can get, I feel like im flyin

[austere warren]

Up to you if you want to utilize it. I eventually will just have the materials I need to give my arbites their whole arsenal eventually. That's just how I play my characters fr.

[ripe obsidian]

Mercantile rot + purple cleared first attempt thanks to a heroic zealot

apparently with all the revive speed buffs, you can get someone up before the stagger from book ends

[restive stag]

i should really do this with psyker

[ripe obsidian]

I took way more damage than I should've, but it's because I was alive more than anyone but the zealot

we had a 5-10 minute long duo clutch against purple rot hordes

but the Zealot saved our bacon more than once

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian wanna do 20 havoc?

@royal totem wana to havoc 20?

[royal totem]

gimme 3 or 4 mins

last bit of a havoc 5

[ripe obsidian]

I just lost a won chess game on a misclick. =|

I was about to checkmate and hit the wrong square

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/hypixel-forums-gif-23300389

misinput

[restive stag]

my vraks has only had 20% perks this entire time

i couldve been dealing 5% mor damage to monstrocities this whole time

its over..

i only had tier 3 blessings too

this is actually a testament to how fun this thing is

that i forgot to do that stuff

[royal totem]

@strong gulch ok that's over

@ripe obsidian choose for me. book zealot that's less memes or Charge zealot that's DEFINITELY memes

i won't subject you all to infiltrate yet

[ripe obsidian]

charge

[royal totem]

ok memes it is

if we fail i'll bring book

little does Six know, i'm bringing a heavy eviscerator

[restive stag]

peak

[royal totem]

i decided to not meme that hard and brought DS but it turns out DS charge timing for release doesn't quite feel the same for eviscerator so that mi ght have somehow made it even more of a meme

also, i'm an idiot. i could have just parried crusher overheads and not died -_-

[plucky flax]

[prime elk]

shoutout to this cunt

for taking a grim

smiting all game

double dipping on the medicae when i was 90% corrupted

[strong gulch]

oof

[prime elk]

typical smyker behavior

shoul've barreled him when i got the chance

[royal totem]

@strong gulch srry at the end the burgle was taking up pretty much my whole screen 🙁

[strong gulch]

@royal totem @ripe obsidian Thanks for games. Lets all get some good rest.

[royal totem]

burgles too fat.

ty for the games

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-find-you-i-will-kill-you-taken-gif-5513044

[stark haven]

Do Warp charges increase the damage of smite as well?

[plucky flax]

Ye it increases all the damage even dot

[craggy patrol]

the new tree is actually just a straight nerf mathematically

[patent jacinth]

Uh huh

Are you going to tell us why?

[craggy patrol]

toughness node removal

no other node matters

[patent jacinth]

How many and what kind

[craggy patrol]

They removed 5 toughness nodes

[ripe obsidian]

what a fascinating take

[zealous wing]

what if they gave us a +25 toughness node as a required take

[ripe obsidian]

and changed them from +10 to 2 guaranteed +25

[patent jacinth]

Just a Dream

[craggy patrol]

they should've just removed toughness

[patent jacinth]

Anyway

[zealous wing]

imagine if they condensed the toughness nodes

oh wow thatd be cool

[candid temple]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nets-nba-paul-pierce-gif-1451274719610649494

[patent jacinth]

Not interacting further with this because as fun as it would be it's bait

[craggy patrol]

the design flaw was always toughness

because it rewards getting hit

[patent jacinth]

Uh huh

So does HP

[craggy patrol]

you're right, everyone should die in 1 hit

[patent jacinth]

Taking more HP just incentives getting hit because you have health to spare

You built that entire health bar

Why not use it

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-tom-hardy-max-rockatansky-thats-bait-bait-gif-4987723

in respon to mathmatically nerfed with this patch

[candid temple]

bring back thp

[patent jacinth]

Just make darktide tabletop accurate and make it so you can only take hits up to your wounds value before dying

[craggy patrol]

the csuite for this game stole a statue from my house during a conference so I'll have my revenge

I have him on camera

[patent jacinth]

Fatshark keeps the playtesters on retainer as private security

You will not survive

[royal totem]

@strong gulch srry for the loss btw. My bad.

[craggy patrol]

I've eaten three swedes so far.

[restive stag]

no you havent

[patent jacinth]

Are you sure

[steady yarrow]

Sometimes it's fun just to eat the crusher overheads.

[royal totem]

Wut

[plucky flax]

Bro dropping me hint about my lack of bubble.

Also wtf hit me here? Felt I I got hit through the stairs or something from beneath.

[royal totem]

It looks that way. Idk

[plucky flax]

Hmm rewatching it, seems it was the rager.

Wtf I was nowhere near it. Super long reach from him.

[strong gulch]

No worries. Also same. I could have moved better.

[strong gulch]

It does seem like the rager hit you.

long arms scary

[royal totem]

I think my zealot gameplay is a bit better than my arb. But unsure.

[strong gulch]

I thought you were doing quite well.

[royal totem]

I like the eviscerator moveset. Its simple lmao

[fringe harbor]

im tryna make electro lmb spam with scrier build but it keeps evolving to melee psyker

cuz you have no horde clear from PC + vent soulblaze, u rely on melee weapon for horde

[royal totem]

When i played it felt like melee psyker with electro for range

[fringe harbor]

so you might as well take off all the soulblaze crap and just run warp splitting

yeah pretty much

[bright summit]

Assail

[bright summit]

Sb still good I play Scriers ek and I have a sb/non sb variant for the builds I play with it depending on what I'm feeling and what the team has

[wraith sphinx]

😱

[plucky flax]

Works best as 2nd psyker

So the first guy has horde clear (purg/trauma)

[restive stag]

charged strike applies to cknife PA??

thats kinda aweosme

[primal aurora]

Trauma is a good horde clear?

[plucky flax]

With blaze ye

[primal aurora]

Oh, so you go all crits for Trauma?

with Gaze or Scream+blaze nod?

[plucky flax]

Typically with creeping flames shriek.

For even more burn

[primal aurora]

Makes sense, but I'm so addicted to max warp shenanigans with Gaze.

[plucky flax]

Good staff for h40.

I kind of want to join this lobby to see how cracked this psyker is

[strong gulch]

Wtf

[plucky flax]

Oh he swapped to a different staff now it's much more op

H40 ready psyker

I'm in the party. I'm ready for sick psyker play.

[kind jay]

[plucky flax]

Well we lost. Weird psyker build not too good I guess.

[tulip kettle]

obviously you just needed bubble.

[languid tusk]

burster got us when we didnt have golden toughness. zealot and ogryn: moderately hurt. castigator stance arbiter: didnt even feel it. psyker:

[languid pine]

psyker getting instantly vaporized from the smell of a burster

[languid pine]

not better than purg at least

still top 2 in the psyker ranged arsenal

you usually take rending shockwave with the trauma though

[primal aurora]

Rending shockwave is good? What is the second blessing then?

[tulip kettle]

flurry

[languid pine]

warp flurry

your job is to chain trauma into mass armor hordes

you can take venting shriek if your team isnt an idiot and knows what the word "cover" is, or if you're confident in your ability to just shut-down gunner hordes with trauma

[primal aurora]

Why not Gaze?

[pallid stump]

should i try damnation with psyker

hmmmmmmm

[languid pine]

you can take gaze and roll for crits but venting takes care of any melee stragglers in front of you and bubble's utility is unmatched

[primal aurora]

I understand that Bubble is still best option in terms of teamplay. I was just contemplating if Venting panic stun would be better than non-stop trauma cast on high peril with Gaze.

[languid pine]

usually the venting panic stun

its not much panic either, typically your cd is like 10-6s

so you can spam it 24/7 and not many things will creep up on you

venting + trauma provides lots of stagger and damage at the same time

[wind wind]

Real

[gray juniper]

They made a psyker experience out of VR Skyrim https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1KKb3sogdy/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[cosmic cobalt]

unemployment

[white valley]

I recommend a health curio

JaD also helps

[languid pine]

im so done bro

😭

havoc 36

i join with trauma + venting

ogryn asks me where's the purg

i switch to purg and keep venting

mfw the ogryn and vet still havent readied

switch to bubble

they magically ready up

this is also the first time ive seen actual racism over builds

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-awkward-awkward-cat-cat-awkward-gif-24906225

[nocturne dust]

I see nothing wrong with knowing you can't play without bubble

[languid pine]

both of these guys were true survivors aswell

[deft stump]

Normal, how they got it is gold+bubble spam.

[radiant frigate]

havoc sucks!!

[plucky flax]

Host your own lobby.

Until beter psyker come in and kick you out of your class.

[radiant frigate]

that's funny

[plucky flax]

Is not funny if it's true.

[dense wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hello-cat-peek-cat-door-cat-peek-door-gif-17361470248875227911

anyone have a brain rupture venting shriek build

im lost with this rework

[zealous wing]

check the pins for the build bonanza

explains everything

and has a very comprehensive list of builds overall

[summer prairie]

a good bubble purg player got outdamaged on a healing map

a bit sus build though, no kf

[plucky flax]

Proof bubble is bad.

[summer prairie]

the bubble was useful though and it was still only 37 minutes

[plucky flax]

Hmm the vet node exploit weakness.

It increases all damage for 20% 6s after a melee crit?

Seems OP i gotta run it

[summer prairie]

are you playing, kind of feel like playing arbi

[plucky flax]

No I am just testing stuff

I played a round on vet earlier was fun

So kinda wanna refine my build for it

(I was just spamming krak against rot)

[summer prairie]

krak too op

[plucky flax]

37 mins

More damage than melee or my plasma spam

[tulip kettle]

yeah i think agile engagement + skirmisher + exploit together is super strong

skrimisher so easy to max now too

[plucky flax]

Hmm after sprint or slide.

So I have to dodge slide?

I don't really sprint or slide when doing melee combat

[summer prairie]

is tapping sprint a sprint

[plucky flax]

I didn't run exploit weakness and skirmisher that round. Only agile

[tulip kettle]

it gains stacks every 0.25 seconds

[plucky flax]

Ooooh. It's not 1 stack per action

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[plucky flax]

Damn that's OP then

Bruh I have no more points

I'll make it fit somehow.

20% extra damage seems gud

Hmm it stacks once per second not 0.25

Also it doesn't drop down per stack but the whole buff.

[wraith sphinx]

only first time? I experienced this constantly

[tulip kettle]

its like super fast, idk

when i press tap sprint and slide it stacks twice and its less than a scond to do it

but yeah dropping all stacks is poopy

[plucky flax]

I had to remove - stamina regen delay for that.

It's really nice to have the super fast regen tho

[tulip kettle]

fair enough, though i think vet has equal stamina regen delay to zel now?

i am far from vetexpert

[plucky flax]

Yeah but it's made of paper when not in yellow toughness.

[tulip kettle]

trueee

[plucky flax]

No it's 0.75s base now I think.

Zealot is 0.5s

And psyker/arby is 0.25s

Well with that node it has as fast delay as arby and psyker

Which is OP

And it increases survivalbility so much

Oh it's same as zealot now yeah.

But zealot tanky with until death/hr

[tulip kettle]

true, as soon as you go below 75% for iron will you just crumple

[plucky flax]

My vet build is kind of tanky though somehow

Boi is thiiccc

[marble crater]

Looks like a wet psyker

[plucky flax]

One day voidstrike will be as powerful as plasma gun

@summer prairie okay you wanna play?

I'mma test build

Your map though mine is poop

Shout got nerfed tho it's so joeover.

Gonna restart game

[deft stump]

It actually is op. Lul.

[summer prairie]

oh dear agent

look at the psyker

it's blazing spirit voidstrike with smite

[plucky flax]

Well you chose him

[summer prairie]

I didn't look

[plucky flax]

I hope he can horde clear cos i haven one

Or you can

[fringe harbor]

malcador would have been an lmb spam electro psyker

[pallid stump]

ok

kinetic flayer....is a lot better than i thought

with the souldblaze dot

it was popping heads left and right

[hearty wolf]

It's busted, yeah

When you look at how much damage it does per mission, you'll be surprised

[pallid stump]

oh and

devil's claw

helps a lot

gettings swarmed? just parry

long as you have the stam for it

you're golden

[rancid jasper]

Stam for parrying? In the psyker class channel?

Nah, use KD and get infinite parries.

[pallid stump]

oh shit

you're so right

[rancid jasper]

One of the best ways to kill demon host

Just sekiro its ass with KD parries

https://tenor.com/view/game-combat-sekiro-from-software-gif-12490160

[pallid stump]

even better cuz here you dont need timing

[plucky flax]

Was pretty easy game cos of smite

No horde clear tho

[summer prairie]

1.5 smite

[plucky flax]

That vet was so nice he left me all the ammo

[summer prairie]

he did 351k damage with his EP smite

[plucky flax]

That's not bad.

[summer prairie]

eh, kind of is

[plucky flax]

He needed to smite more.

Just give up on voidstrike

[summer prairie]

true

[tulip kettle]

🤮

[plucky flax]

I have power matrix cranial and stim

No rot for my krak

[summer prairie]

consignment yard healing stimms

[plucky flax]

Let's do mine I haven't played power matrix.

Keep getting riser

[tulip kettle]

i have logistratum purple cranial 37

if you feel like helping me finally getting 40

[plucky flax]

Hrm if you're playing we can.

I'll remake party

[tulip kettle]

yeah just got back from dog walking

[zinc phoenix]

Proper hygiene prevents krak rot

[plucky flax]

Krak nades kinda nerfed when it's not a rot map.

[deft stump]

It's Nurglites... What hygiene?

[royal totem]

charge zealot is so fun. i survive way longer than on my arb 🙁 i think this game is telling me something

[plucky flax]

You suck with arby

[royal totem]

i do suck with arby 🙁

game too hard

[hearty wolf]

agent being toxic what

[long wharf]

is it toxic if it's the truth, though?

[royal totem]

a statement can be true both ways lmao so i'd say yes

but i don't care. i suck is just the truth

[long wharf]

nah, when people call the truth "toxic", what they really mean is "I don't like hearing the truth when it goes against what I want"

if hearing the truth offends you, then you have a problem, not the person speaking the truth

[pallid stump]

i need to start screaming in vc

when everyone ingores the crusher bolting straight for me

[plucky flax]

Not really being toxic cos arby is easier to play than vet/zealot.

You just do stuff and let dog roam around.

[long wharf]

dog also automatically saves you from other dogs

[hearty wolf]

and mutie and CS

[plucky flax]

Real men play dogless.

[long wharf]

wrong, Real Men insist on the company of their ever faithful companion

[hearty wolf]

if you play dogless, you probably are running shock mines

shock mines are more cringe than dog no cap

[long wharf]

besides, Arby isn't nearly as fun without the dog

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[royal totem]

errrrr your statement is so wrong it's incredible.

[long wharf]

it really isn't

[royal totem]

the lack of basic human courtesy and empathy you have is actually incredible then

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/b1ADJ.gif

[long wharf]

you're doing a lot of assuming

[white sky]

Thanks, now I can pay attention to the convo

[austere warren]

Truth encompasses feeling. It's why passion on topics that affects people actually happens.

[royal totem]

i'm not assuming anything. your statement directly says that

[long wharf]

it doesn't

how something is presented is separate from what is being presented

you can insist on saying the truth while being compassionate and empathetic

[austere warren]

Not really, no. Framing is core to how arguments are levied.

[long wharf]

it takes a level of maturity to accept a truth said in a way you dislike

[austere warren]

It's a fluid exchange, not a mutually exclusive expression.

[white sky]

It takes a bit of modesty to not grandstand either, but here we are.

[long wharf]

who's grandstanding?

[austere warren]

:/

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/sipping-joe-goldberg-penn-badgley-you-consuming-gif-13176688856893985792

[signal atlas]

Flak and carapace best on dueling sword?

[long wharf]

some people prefer maniac to carapace

[rich spindle]

Infested and specialist

Don’t listen to trolls

[long wharf]

as you're going to be increasing rending

[marble crater]

I use maniac and carapace, because I only use my dueling sword for mutants, maulers and crushers

[long wharf]

fair

[obtuse dome]

Flak maniac

Carapace too rare

[long wharf]

I definitely wouldn't call carapace "rare"

[obtuse dome]

And ds has no trouble with cara

[obtuse dome]

Crushers maulers

What else?

[long wharf]

enemies with carapace are the ones you need to stop overrunning the team

[austere warren]

I like flak and carapace because I just like shitting on armor as much as possible. Otherwise, maniac and carapace isn't bad. Flak and maniac is common and one of the safest +dmg combos in the game.

[long wharf]

plasma dudes

[obtuse dome]

Only helmet

[long wharf]

same with maulers, your point?

[austere warren]

Ragers too.

[obtuse dome]

Exactly my point

[austere warren]

Well on the chest.

[marble crater]

Which flak enemies are you attacking with dueling sword instead of your staff?

[obtuse dome]

You dont need extra cara dmg

[austere warren]

And their numbers can be very frequent. They're not a rare occurrence in aurics and higher.

[obtuse dome]

I dont have cara on any of my weapons anymore

[austere warren]

Their frequency might be spread out but pockets of elites is always relevant.

[obtuse dome]

Its not worth it imo

[long wharf]

I use flak and maniac on mine

[obtuse dome]

Flak maniac is the most usual

[long wharf]

but SuT still makes a good case for having carapace

[austere warren]

I mean if you don't want it, sure. Plenty of ways to make duelling sword goofy for psyker anyway.

[obtuse dome]

I dont use ds either

[long wharf]

if you mostly use your ds on the bigger targets, carapace becomes a large percentage of what you're stabbing

[obtuse dome]

On payker i have force swords

Why use anything else?

[long wharf]

I myself prefer the FGS

[plucky flax]

Unyielding carapace if you play havoc cos they tanky

[austere warren]

Because people can make choices for themselves about how they want to play. They can expand their arsenals and options.

[obtuse dome]

That is true

[signal atlas]

Which enemies are unyielding?

[long wharf]

I don't mind unyielding on a FGS or ds, either

makes hitting ogryns and monstrosities easier

[obtuse dome]

Unyielding is only really good for bosses imo

[austere warren]

And it's psyker. Probably the most diverse class in the game in terms of how much variety can be mounted with the same builds.

[long wharf]

and reapers

and bulwarks

[obtuse dome]

Yeah but reapers are no trouble

Just shoot em

I like it ona bolter for bosses

[plucky flax]

Reapers scary in havoc

Kill you in 0.5s

[obtuse dome]

Nah reapers not scary imo

Trapper scary

[plucky flax]

Thats cos im not that good

[long wharf]

trappers aren't scary, they're bullshit

[obtuse dome]

I main ogryn ao im used to dodging bullets

[long wharf]

firing a wide-ass projectile that phases through everything except players

[austere warren]

Psykers taking something like duelling sword are almost always using and exploiting the classes' ranged dodge and free dodge talents. There's also scrier's gaze and what not that just enables melee approaches. If anything that can be more efficient given the volatility of engagements.

[obtuse dome]

Reapers are only scray if you try to melee them imo

[austere warren]

You can just slide into them and stab their heads.

[obtuse dome]

Yeah but thats what makes reaper scary

If you get too close and cant staggher

Thats why people die to it

[austere warren]

That wouldn't make them scary if you're stabbing things in the face is my point.

Because psyker is using dodge talents that give seconds of dodge for free on ranged attacks. All of that adds up very quickly.

Which is one of the many reasons why right tree psyker isn't exactly pressed to commit to that kind of play. It literally is steered towards it.

On top of that, it's a duelling sword, a very generous evasion-friendly weakspot machine of a melee weapon on a class who can make a build entirely looking for weakspots to spin buffs off of. Pretty straightforward and was always one of the biggest reasons why duelling sword was goofy on psyker.

[long wharf]

ds should have never been given to vet and zealot

[austere warren]

I don't really care that it made it over there.

[long wharf]

the ds were initially tuned to psyker's typical melee output

[austere warren]

Needed some tweaks to not make it as goofy as it was but beyond that it's fine.

[long wharf]

they're easily the best 1h weapons on vet and zealot both

and when the ds does finally get nerfed, it'll hit the psyker harder than vet and zealot

[plucky flax]

A big ass 2 handed sword vs 1 tooth pick

[long wharf]

a highly effective toothpick

aimed at every enemy eyeball

[plucky flax]

Nearly 1 mil melee damage earlier on vet just poking big guys
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1432033045229076610/image.png?ex=68ff9433&is=68fe42b3&hm=cec35b734dcaf9d9ca05f072fc1ef5f08a9e405a768b0ea0c8645ededbe8a200&

[austere warren]

The duelling sword is a high mobility finesse weapon with good reach, stable attack speed before talents and buffs and a pretty intuitive mark that became the main mark to be used on.

The weapon is not something that psyker alone could make use of, it was just limited to psyker before the change happened.

It being on a zealot or veteran was going to be crazy in the first place the same way tactical axes or combat knives are goofy between each of these classes brought up.

[summer prairie]

kind of easy when the big guys weren't moving

[frail osprey]

I think gaze is broken somewhere. My attack speed and damage goes through the roof even when I am not in gaze.

[plucky flax]

Smite carried

[long wharf]

you just reiterated my point

[austere warren]

Most likely not because right tree psyker by itself makes weapons like that incredible. The duelling sword would have to be totally gutted for it to fail on any class.

[long wharf]

it won't be gutted

[austere warren]

No i did not. I said that it wasn't something tailored for psyker. Just limited to psyker.

[long wharf]

but psyker isn't boosting melee damage to the level zealot and vet do, though

[plucky flax]

I'm pro enough to melee elites horde without dying tho trust

[austere warren]

Yes it is.

[summer prairie]

true

[patent mango]

this is true actually

its higher than vet and zealots

[plucky flax]

I just discovered this talent on vet. 20% damage after a melee crit.

Seems good

[austere warren]

You can just read talents for the right tree that have synergy with duelling swords.

[plucky flax]

On top of shred + uncanny

[austere warren]

They're right there.

[royal granite]

i was wondering why i keep getting kills even though i wasn't doing anything, turn around, kinetic flayer has made this fire self perpetuating

[austere warren]

And very clear

[patent mango]

holy hell is th at unchained

[long wharf]

that's Perilous Combustion at work

[royal granite]

it sure is

to both of those

[long wharf]

I never take KF because that'd mean I'm not throwing shards

[royal granite]

just getting back into the game after a huge break, doing an inferno staff build so i don't want to be throwing shards at carapace

[long wharf]

purge is stupid good now

[royal granite]

purge? are we using the classic staff name or is that something i don't know

[long wharf]

the original name

[patent mango]

we hate the renames so we use original

[long wharf]

I hate the new names

[austere warren]

I barely care. But it is confusing sometimes

[patent mango]

hecking voidblast

[long wharf]

trauma

[austere warren]

And idk why the change was done forgot their reasons given in the blog.

[royal granite]

the rename still fucks me up, i want to call it purge

[patent mango]

i dont think they had a reason

so its probably GW

[long wharf]

so dumb for FartShack to rename all the staves except Voidstrike

nah, they were fine

[royal granite]

do i run empowered psionics or warp siphon with this?

[long wharf]

the devs themselves decided to use the internal names externally

[austere warren]

I'm pretty sure they had a tiny paragraph for it. Idr enough so big shrug.

[patent mango]

i don rember

[summer prairie]

They had a reason but it wasn't a good one. Blessing/staff name overlap

[long wharf]

the current names are the ones that have been the internal names since release

[summer prairie]

Purg didn't have a reason to

[plucky flax]

It's more lore friendly.

[long wharf]

Purgatus is a superior name

fight me.

[plucky flax]

They are changing inferno to voidfire and electrokinetic to voidshock soon or osmething.

[long wharf]

ugh

[patent mango]

voidblade and voidgreatblade

[plucky flax]

Based

[long wharf]

voidboots

[plucky flax]

Voidtoothpick and make it psyker exclusive again.

[long wharf]

where's my voidhat?

[royal granite]

just stop changing the names, what the hell lmao

[long wharf]

gotta put on my voidgloves

[royal granite]

holy shit the fire is still going

[long wharf]

are we from the planet Void?

cinless, it won't stop

[royal granite]

yeah no it will not

[long wharf]

that group of specialists in the psykward will forever soulblaze

it'll do it without KF, too

PC is all you need to have that happen

[royal granite]

soulfire is good now, wild

[long wharf]

well, it's more that 3 stacks is enough to kill those weak specialists

[royal granite]

i'm pretty sure it wasn't always like that

[long wharf]

and PC doesn't have its own stack cap

soulblaze damage has never been buffed, as far as I can remember

[royal granite]

odd

well something's changed, cause i've never seen that bonfire going in the corner before

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[verbal thistle]

DoTs now trigger flayer

thats why you have infinite blaze in meat grinder

[royal granite]

so do i run warp siphon or EP with purg?

[summer prairie]

with shriek you run warp siphon, with bubble you can run either

[plucky flax]

You can run bubble ep smite

It's certified havoc 40 ready

[royal granite]

yeah i guess, unbuffed brain rupture feels kinda weak though

[long wharf]

just never use it

does BB ignore armor?

I don't think it does

it should, though

[plucky flax]

I see dom and syllo online 👀

[summer prairie]

chilling

[languid tusk]

best build for crystalline will psyker ?

[long wharf]

"best" is on weak ground there

[ripe obsidian]

I should have BB ADMs in the guide

[long wharf]

sure

[marble crater]

BB charge should scale with enemy health and one shot once you fully charged it

[long wharf]

are you saying you already have it or you should add it?

[long wharf]

BB should one-shot all but monstrosities, and the charge time be based on the health of the enemy at the time you started charging

say, 5 full seconds for a crusher on auric

[plucky flax]

This ogryn can't even dodge a crusher so dunno why he backseating so much

[summer prairie]

I've seen him before and he always says to go down there on this map, it's funny

going down there isn't bad though

[plucky flax]

I prefer up top. The room is smaller easier to funnel them in. And they can get up from behind in the lower room.

They can climb up that drop

[summer prairie]

95% chance he'll run there again

[plucky flax]

If aggroed

[long wharf]

which map/area?

[languid tusk]

mid event in power matrix

[long wharf]

oh yeah, the best place to hold out is at the top

enemies don't spawn behind+above you, and you have the high-ground

[languid tusk]

i prefer bottom corner next to medistation, it's cozy

feels like home

[long wharf]

it's a great place to get trapped without room to maneuver, for sure

a place where the entire room can see, you have nowhere to go if the one path into it gets clogged

that's called a kill box

[languid tusk]

if all the enemy come from 1 direction it easier to fight back

[long wharf]

true, but if you pick your hold point by assuming you never have to maneuver out of it

you're planning to fail

[languid tusk]

@plucky flax what do you think ?

[long wharf]

a good plan never assumes the plan will never fail

[plucky flax]

Oh we're on about the start of consignment yard.

Power matrix mid event is sort of whatever.

Just run around. 😄

[long wharf]

because no plan survives first contact with the enemy

[plucky flax]

I like to stay on the top area actually. So back is against the wall.

[long wharf]

as long as you have room to kite/maneuver, you can handle any situation

every good defensive position where you don't have to "guard or fail" has a fallback point

[plucky flax]

Also why is this map with no rot spawning so much crushers.

[long wharf]

you doing the event?

[plucky flax]

No just h40

[long wharf]

well there's your answer

... as you chat while in the middle of the fight 🙂

[languid tusk]

hes chatting while fighting this XD

[long wharf]

oh ffs

good luck

way too much purple buffs there

[plucky flax]

I failed to clutch 3 times now.

Super washed.

[long wharf]

yeah, that many regenerating crushers is a Bad Time

[summer prairie]

this zealot doesn't even use his relic

[long wharf]

haha

I mean, I'm so sorry for your loss.

[summer prairie]

I'll just run back immediately instead of trying to save them I guess

[plucky flax]

I think he was using it when I was trying to ress the vet

But then I got push out of ress by flamer

[marble crater]

Mid event power matrix... hmmm check wiki

Ah that

[tulip kettle]

i learned in a video from some youtuber a long time ago the best place to hold is between the big spawn door and the place you enter/drop from

murder the gunners as they arrive and dont get caught in the room pinned down

[long wharf]

I like to be right between the two terminals at the top

that way you can see down into the room

[tulip kettle]

yeah up there is suicide

the gunner waves from the far spawn door wont aggro in to you

and are out of range of inferno staff

[long wharf]

and if for some reason you get overrun, you can always back up into cover or push around or jump forwards/down to start kiting

[tulip kettle]

they will just cover behind the railings and pincushion you, ive seen it to many teams many times

jump down and be dead before you hit the ground -.-

[long wharf]

depends on the situation

if you're forced back against the door that doesn't open, you're just in a kill box

[tulip kettle]

and as for consigment yard discussion, top room is fine but you get an extra boss trigger that way

bottom room and out the back lets you skip a boss trigger and you can essentially skip the entire open section there and push straight through the door

but if you get the DH spawn in front of the drop down its bad news bears

[royal totem]

Which top room? During mid event?

[plucky flax]

I'mma go watch f1

[summer prairie]

these people never look back

[summer prairie]

I'm spending >50% of my time lmbing specials with rending trauma

[tulip kettle]

behold my paint skills

[long wharf]

that's from a different map

[tulip kettle]

stand on yellow X and kill the gunners coming from the entrance drop down and the purple spawn door

[long wharf]

was I thinking of a different map?

[tulip kettle]

yes

[plucky flax]

Bruh I shot so many specials.

[summer prairie]

yeah but 2 people shooting isn't enough

the zealot had a boltgun and did 70k ranged damage

[long wharf]

oh, I was thinking of the cooling map

[verbal thistle]

graphic design is my passion

[long wharf]

easy to see

[marble crater]

What's that supposed to be?

[verbal thistle]

mid event on coassignment yard

purple is spawn door

red it pits

[plucky flax]

Game was hard.

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/luke-moment-graphic-design-gif-11939076132639903483

[long wharf]

that makes my eyes hurt

[verbal thistle]

atleast I used a key

[marble crater]

Map makes sense when I turn my phone

[summer prairie]

dropping towards the healing station is basically the only way to lose there

[tulip kettle]

improved

[verbal thistle]

erm

you missed 1 objective

there is 5 spawns

3 center

1 upper, 1 lower

[tulip kettle]

true

[marble crater]

Smh

[prime elk]

tbf this is actually a pretty good infographic

[tulip kettle]

either way my point is, holding the room above the med station gets you pinned down by the gunners of death

[verbal thistle]

yes

too much cover in room

[tulip kettle]

standing on yellow x is ez win mode

[verbal thistle]

so you push

[marble crater]

That's why I always stay out in the open

[verbal thistle]

I rotate between these 3

depending on where the wave spawns

[tulip kettle]

fair enough, standing on the top one by the respawn has resulted in me getting my shit kicked in by 360 shotgunners one too many times

[marble crater]

I always just stay in front of the stair room

But it's auric, you can stand wherever you want

[tulip kettle]

same problem as in the room, gunners of death will just take cover further back

factual

[royal totem]

I go where my team goes

[marble crater]

Yeah but I shoot and scream at them until they burn to death

[tulip kettle]

i miss an EE proc then turn to swiss cheese

then watch my ogryn in the room above med station be pinned down for literally 8 minutes

[marble crater]

Plus, from there I can spam lmb at the spawn door right by the objective on the right

[tulip kettle]

until he decides to leeroy jenkins out the window and be dead before he hits the ground

[tulip kettle]

i was wrong btw, i guess power matrix is the one with the cryo rods? the 3 tier stair room? in which case yeah always hold the top unless forced to lower tiers for objectives, imo

[long wharf]

I knew I wasn't crazy

your pic was from Consignment Yard

which, solid work, but not the same map 🙂

[plucky flax]

Yeah the drawing is clearly consignment yard mid event.

[long wharf]

we should definitely put it up on the fridge though

such good work

[plucky flax]

Good drawing.

My child would be proud.

[long wharf]

where's the gold star sticker sheet

[strong gulch]

Imagine if FS just randomly renamed some maps or swapped them

[plucky flax]

Voidyard.

[long wharf]

don't give them any ideas

[plucky flax]

Voidmatrix.

[long wharf]

Voidtrain

Operation Void in the Void

Voidvoid, for short

[summer prairie]

The ogryn only used his charge 32 times in that 42 minute mission and he was running the cdr node too

[long wharf]

does an ogryn need to be charging every minute?

I personally never take the charge ability on ogryn

[summer prairie]

I never actually saw him use it

[plucky flax]

Voidplex (guess if it's comms plex or smelter)

[summer prairie]

so not sure how he was using it

[plucky flax]

He was holding ability for next round.

[tulip kettle]

bonus drawing because i was feeling artsy

[long wharf]

is.. is that a butthole?

[marble crater]

Petition for Dom to draw a map for each mid and end event

[long wharf]

sadly, there's a lot more verticality in that room than with the consignment yard one

[tulip kettle]

yeah theres like the railings all around the side and over the top middle

[long wharf]

you really do want to see the gangways above

and the areas to the sides where enemies will drop down from

[tulip kettle]

but this is why you hold the top of the room on the yellow x

[long wharf]

that's what I was saying

[tulip kettle]

and i agree

[long wharf]

I know

[plucky flax]

No legends I am lost

[long wharf]

I'm agreeing with you agreeing with me

[long wharf]

instructions unclear, jumped off ledge in throneside

[plucky flax]

You can be consistent and just copypasta the legends box.

[tulip kettle]

im sure these will never be seen or looked at again

[languid tusk]

be brave, stand in middle of big room

let enemy come to you

[tulip kettle]

and as we know, consistency is not my strong suit -.-

[long wharf]

the consignment yard one definitely should be pinned

[marble crater]

We know

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-hercules-i-know-i-got-it-mad-gif-7206235

[long wharf]

<@&735928989146939404> could we get this pinned please?

[tulip kettle]

[strong gulch]

Get pinned nerd.

[marble crater]

Just having one pinned would be strange, either we(Dom) does it for all events and that can get pinned somewhere, or don't pin anything. Has nothing to do with the quality of Dom's work

[long wharf]

this will be incentive for Dom to properly do other event areas as well

https://tenor.com/view/gold-star-good-job-thumbs-up-you-get-a-gold-star-you-are-a-star-gif-13205174

[strong gulch]

now update it with a a lot of other info

[lament glen]

I thought it was a funny puppy named death with a very red eye

maybe a eye infection

[long wharf]

pink eye is a fatal condition in the 41st millenium

[plucky flax]

Real logical stuff.

[strong gulch]

the mouth

[verbal thistle]

tiny drool

[plucky flax]

uwu

[long wharf]

why would that be a mouth?

[tulip kettle]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS

[long wharf]

looks like a sagging eyelid to me

[acoustic jacinth]

What sorrows have i returned to now

[strong gulch]

It would been funny if the puppy version was the pinned one.

[long wharf]

heh

PIN THEM BOTH

[lament glen]

for like a day

[long wharf]

fair

[lament glen]

someone remind me to remove those at some point

[strong gulch]

lmao

[lament glen]

@tulip kettle I entrust this responsibility to you

I play only zealot so I lack the brainpower to do it on my own

[long wharf]

in all seriousness, keep the real one

[tulip kettle]

ok im ascending and rising now

see yall in an hour.

[marble crater]

Congratulations

[quartz barn]

bruh

[plucky flax]

Ez getting carried

[royal totem]

incredible player right?

[quartz barn]

mid

i got double teamed by trappers so took dmg 🙁

anyway time for h40 all arbi

[pallid stump]

there sure are times where i feel like i want to just run 3 wound curious

[modest merlin]

Unstable power or precognition on force greatsword?

[marble crater]

Unstable

Or both

[pallid stump]

good one

[bright summit]

you gave me an idea

[summer prairie]

Surge Nexus trauma is pretty good

[pallid stump]

question

how is kinect defection peril thingymabob calculated?

rather, does more stamina = less peril?

or more block effiency?

[sleek lynx]

I think kinetic deflection lies cuz I blocked something at critical peril and got overloaded and died. Unfortunately it’s a required node for disrupt destiny

[dusk wren]

did you block manually or did you use the parry

[sleek lynx]

Normal block

[pallid stump]

i have an idea cooking

depending on how kinetic deflection

calculates peril

[summer prairie]

I'd rather have surge flurry I think

[bright summit]

ill just qq

[marble crater]

If you have 1 stamina and block something you gain 20% peril
If you have 2 stamina and block you gain 10% peril
The more stamina you have the less peril you will gain for blocking the same attacks

[summer prairie]

Well they stack

[pallid stump]

so...+9 stamina

[summer prairie]

Qq only removes the animation and flurry doesn't speed it up

[marble crater]

Yes, but also total overkill

[pallid stump]

fair

ill try it either way

[bright summit]

surge + flurry is what i usually run on ek so i was just trying something fun for a change

[summer prairie]

Do you actually use RMB with gaze surge

[bright summit]

a lot more than optimal because otherwise i'd not play it at all

i like running around and charging it

[tulip kettle]

i know you didnt win because i ended up with them after

you know any game where everyone is trying to be at the back hitting poxwalkers, and runs back everytime something spawns, is not gonna be a good game.

[pale prairie]

@marble crater honestly you probably don’t need your building heat turned on this winter

[rigid moss]

As a German who just put on their heater for the first time this year in the last few days, I disagree with this comic. :D

[quartz barn]

it wasnt all that bad, but my duo kept dcing and the other 2 werent that great

i dont even have a proper build yet and have like 10 games max on arbi, but i can still facetank just fine

[marble crater]

Yeah I do, if not for me then for my dog

[quartz barn]

meanwhile the other 2 were just hiding like you say

[pale prairie]

German shepherds are used to cold

[marble crater]

It's not a German shepherd

[pale prairie]

Picture tax

[marble crater]

And younger version

[wooden sand]

Creepy

[pale prairie]

Adorable thank you

[cosmic sigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

There's a bug when blocking with DS at 97% peril apparently

[hazy birch]

What controls the damage of the persistent burn stack on soulblaze?

[verbal thistle]

the amount of stacks and what global damage buffs you have

[long saddle]

this was one insane event mission with surge surge

[round gull]

Hey guys i think a bug happened in my run,after we used the celerity stim we had like the effect during all the run lol

I dashed like flash and moved faster

It was in the event stuff

[marble crater]

It's because of the event, stims give a permanent buff

[round gull]

ohhhhhhhhhh thanks

I was so confused lol

That's kinda op for some weapons

[marble crater]

Yeah it's honestly pretty confusing when you don't expect it, I played worse because of the buffed dodges

[round gull]

me too lol

All was happening too fast

[white sky]

Sent myself off a ledge twice cause I'm not used to the distance ngl

[strong gulch]

The first time I played knife + DD. I kept yeeting myself.

[long wharf]

is Unstable Power for the FGS only 5% strength?

[patent mango]

unstable power's awful description claims another one......

its up to 20% 4 stacks of 5%

[hazy birch]

ok but what controls the base damage?

cant be flame staff stats cuz you can apply it without a flame staff

[verbal thistle]

I see

It depends on what enemy it is hitting

If you want to see more about soul blaze, look into guides and find Kuli's psyker guide

Iirc he has a soulblaze page

I think this is accurate, it's not from Kuli so I can't be 100%

But this isn't considering armor

DoTs do different damage depending on what armor they are hitting

@buoyant maple do you remember who had the DoT scaling graph with the different armor types as well?

Was it you

I'm not at my pc to look into the guide

[hazy birch]

is each dot a stack?

sounds like it is locked at a base value and cant be changed

[hazy birch]

outside of whatever + damage modifiers

[verbal thistle]

DoTs is just short for damage over time, soulblaze has a stack total of 31. But depending on how it's applies it will have a different cap from that source. For example, blazing has a cap of 6 iirc. So blazing spirit can only add 6 to the total cap of 31 for soulblaze

[hazy birch]

man soulblaze is the weakest dot by a huge margin

[verbal thistle]

Thank you

[verbal thistle]

But the easiest to apply by leagues....

[hazy birch]

i mean it spreads on its own with certain conditions and perks so yea

[verbal thistle]

Press F for an instant 8 stacks to an infinite amount of enemies

[hazy birch]

but i thought soulblaze was infinitely scaling

didnt think it capped

[verbal thistle]

There is a total cap for all dots

[hazy birch]

so why do people say inferno staff psyker infinitely scales its damage

thought that had to do with soulblaze

[verbal thistle]

It scales into density

Darktide does difficulty by spawning more enemies

And since purg staff has infinite cleave then it will always be able to deal with the increase

Hence infinite scaling

[hazy birch]

i see

trying to work on a build for it where im just applying it briefly. idk if i want to be sitting there non stop flame throwing

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[verbal thistle]

God

Psyker is such a mistake

[hazy birch]

?

[verbal thistle]

This comes back to the idea that darktide scales difficulty with density

Guess what like 50% of psykers kit does

Infinite cleave

So there is no real difficulty for a good psyker

And with the easily useable staffs it's more apparent even with a newer psyker player

Purg in this case

W + M1

Just wins

Psyker also is able to ignore around 75% of game mechaincs

Ammo? Nope infinite peril

Dense horde?

Nope infinite cleave

Ranged enemies?

Nope

Empathic evasion or bubble

Blowing up from peril?

[patent mango]

2 staves are pretty lacking and the other 2 lack any substance at all tbh

[verbal thistle]

Nope

Gaze or shriek spam

[verbal thistle]

I disagree, but I see your point

This comes back to scaling difficulty with density

Guess what the 2 best staffs do

[patent mango]

its why i havent tried staff psyker in so long lmao

[verbal thistle]

Infinite cleave

Ek is such a well designed weapon

[patent mango]

its like alright

[verbal thistle]

Void strike just wasn't able to keep up with how difficulty is being handled

[hazy birch]

i mean theres definitely answers to a lot of the games mechs but you cant really kit for all of them at once.

[patent mango]

as a weapon meant to be a primary i dont think it has enough

[verbal thistle]

Why not?

[hazy birch]

and u still suffer from being squishy af

[verbal thistle]

Psyker is more tanky then zealot

[rich spindle]

Perilous combustion needs to be nerfed/changed

[strong gulch]

Remember with purg M1 could stagger crushers?

[austere warren]

:^)

[verbal thistle]

35% Dr with like 65% tdr

[patent mango]

purg is the lamest staff of the 4

[verbal thistle]

And insane toughness gen

I will argue psyker is more tanky then zealot, not considering until death

[hazy birch]

most the other staves feel like shit

[verbal thistle]

Since that is infinite DR

[hazy birch]

EK is okayish

at least imo

[patent mango]

yeah but purgatus might as well have subway surfers on the side

[rich spindle]

Trauma is awesome

[patent mango]

trauma and voidstrike are the most fun tbh

[rich spindle]

It’s like the stickybomb launcher

[hazy birch]

ive never been able to get one to put out damage

[floral solstice]

Is force sword with double offensive blessings (no deflector) more common now? I've been seeing them more lately on havoc pubs

[rich spindle]

Watch some gameplay of someone good w it

[hazy birch]

but theres also the consideration of teamplay. one guys trying to corral everything together and ur over there blowing it all apart

[verbal thistle]

Normal or 2 handed?

[rich spindle]

Spam feet and win

[floral solstice]

Normal

[verbal thistle]

Depending on how it's being used

[patent mango]

trauma seems like it has waaaay too much stagger lmao

[verbal thistle]

If more melee focus psyker they often bring EE so deflector losses it's use

So 2 damage blessing does more for them

[floral solstice]

It's the usual bubble purg psyker, even on rotten armor

[patent mango]

yeah specially considering how good force sword dmg blessings are

[rich spindle]

Psyker doesn’t explode to 1 trash gunner burst anymore so I stopped taking it

[floral solstice]

Would that be better vs duel?

[verbal thistle]

You solved it for me

Bubble.

[patent mango]

😨

[verbal thistle]

Both swords have their use

Deimos with a setup can 1 tap crushers

FGS has psykers fastest boss ttk

All comes down to build and playstyle

[floral solstice]

I see, i'll play around with it for a bit to see for myself then

[hazy birch]

i been trying to push peril to the max for the scaling buffs so ive been trying to work vent into my build over bubble

that said, i think im developing dangerous habits

[rich spindle]

#NoBubbleNovember

[hazy birch]

bubble is so good tho

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sleeping-sleepy-tired-blue-gif-8287578539378111652

[hazy birch]

i mean i get it, anything strong starts to make the game less fun

[rich spindle]

As a long time Psyker main I’ve recently decided to start interacting with game mechanics

[hazy birch]

but im playin pubs and shit at lower difficulties trying to scale up. i gotta babysit people

[hazy birch]

why do that when you can just flip em the bird?

[patent mango]

yknow maybe i lucked out by always playing melee psyker

[hazy birch]

i mean as an arbites main, i just throw my dog at problems

[rich spindle]

I already said🖕 for 2,000 hours

It’s time for ❤️

[hazy birch]

zealots can just drop the beat on chorus and pause the game

[patent mango]

lmao

hecking chorus

the most fun part of that was just jumping up and down when casting it

[strong gulch]

I've done it! like 70k melks to get all 76s FGS. I can now level my character past 10. Unhinged gambling can stop now.

[hazy birch]

why do that?

instead of dump statting?

[verbal thistle]

Once you reach millions of currency, you realize that there is no use for them

I should spend all 3 mil of my plasteel on something funny

[hazy birch]

well yea

ah ok so its not for actual use

[strong gulch]

Because the rule of this character is I can only play 76 stat line weapons. It's easier to get 76s at low levels.

Also yes. I have to find some way to make myself broke. lmao

[hazy birch]

ive got a ways to go for that

my arbites is pretty well kitted out but still could use some maxed out alternates

[strong gulch]

Like this? Can't use it.

The exception to the rule is using the starter weapons.

I don't mean any devil's claw or laspistol, I mean the exact ones that can't be upgraded.

[hazy birch]

that just sounds disgusting

i dont think those can make it into high tier content

[strong gulch]

I know people can do it with greys.

I can't

some weapons are pretty strong even with greys

[hazy birch]

I Mean grey is one thing

starter greys is another

hitting for like 10 damage or some shit

[sleek lynx]

Man the inferno staff soulblaze build feels horrible to play

[royal totem]

wut

[hazy birch]

i dont run prefab builds myself so idk what theyre running but mines pretty fun

im mostly working off my melee and assail, using the inferno just to get the soulblaze going

[sleek lynx]

It just isn’t fun essentially waiting for things to die for the build to get going

[marble crater]

Alan Wake 1 'combat' sucks so much, that is all.

[white valley]

How could it not be fun to set heretics on fire

[prime elk]

too easy

[rich spindle]

What difficulty are you running it on

[sleek lynx]

It isn’t super interactive

[prime elk]

play something else, i find purg very boring

[sleek lynx]

Yea I much prefer the moonlight greatsword melee build

Just wanted to try something else

[prime elk]

try ek staff

or trauma

purg is prob just the least interactive of the staves tbh

[verbal thistle]

Ek and trauma are the most involving staffs

[sleek lynx]

Which one is trauma

[verbal thistle]

Blast

[prime elk]

voidblast now

[verbal thistle]

Will always be trauma

Never forget what they took from us

[strong gulch]

trauma

[sleek lynx]

Would the greatsword work as a melee with it?

[strong gulch]

FGS works with everything; but it has the most overlap with inferno and VB.