psyker-class

[sleek lynx]

“But but but muh 20% chance 🤓”

[royal totem]

I once had to buy 172

[sleek lynx]

Yea and the fact you had to is stupid

System is garbage

[tulip kettle]

again

https://tenor.com/view/katya-sounds-poor-drag-queen-ru-pauls-drag-race-gif-12428697

[fierce crest]

true you should be able to just buy a 60% for 1mil dockets

[tulip kettle]

.... what?

it takes 1 minute and like 100k to get one of every roll

[fierce crest]

sometimes

[tulip kettle]

always

[fierce crest]

ok

that is how randomness works

no one has every gotten one on the first try

[tulip kettle]

yes i mean maybe you get a 0.00001% chance and dont roll it

cmon dude

there are 5 stats and you are equally likely to roll 60 on each of them

[sleek lynx]

It’s not about being poor. Spending all that time not even actually playing and getting nothing to show for it is dumb

[tulip kettle]

if you buy 30 items you are going to get one

that takes literally 1 minute

as someone said above, the annoying part is mastery

but you can also just throw money at that too and get max mastery for any weapon from 0 in 10 minutes

[marble crater]

Use the wrong stat rolls for mastery

[tulip kettle]

precisely

[sleek lynx]

Factually, provably false

It requires luck still

Build crafting shouldn’t be locked behind luck imo

[tulip kettle]

its a 0.12% chance you wouldnt get one

cmon dude.

[fierce crest]

1/1000 chance?

[strong gulch]

The before times would have you in shambles.

[tulip kettle]

yes in 30 rolls you are 99.9% likely to get the correct dump

[strong gulch]

crafting was SOOOOOO bad

[tulip kettle]

thats math

[fierce crest]

luckily there's only 1000 people playing

and also each one only needs a single weapon

[tulip kettle]

are you being intentionally obtuse?

statistics are statistics, outliers exist

[fierce crest]

the statistics misunderstander has logged on

[tulip kettle]

somebody wins the lottery

okay now lets roll 10 more times homie

can you tell me what 0.8 to the power 40 is?

[fierce crest]

no

[tulip kettle]

0.000012089% chance

now lets not act like getting the correct dump is in anyway difficult.

[sleek lynx]

You will simply never convince me that RNG rolls aren’t garbage. I will simply always disagree

[jovial juniper]

Pretty easy to defend the current system

Previous one was worse

[fierce crest]

true

[tulip kettle]

previous one actually sucked

[jovial juniper]

Miles worse

[tulip kettle]

current one is completely flexible and just requires some reasonable amount of playtime

[fierce crest]

and why wouldnt paying a mill for exact stats not be that?

[tulip kettle]

the scale is insanely different

[fierce crest]

show me your plasma gun

or ripper

[tulip kettle]

?

[marble crater]

Previous system didn't even guarantee you max stat total, that's how bad it was

[jovial juniper]

Those 2 god roll are very specific

People spent millions on plasma

[tulip kettle]

i have a plasma from the before times idk what it would matter

now its just dump charge time because you never charge it

[jovial juniper]

While others get it first roll

[verbal thistle]

charge stat affect left click

[jovial juniper]

But charge time also affects your m1

[fierce crest]

you cant not charge it

charge time affects minimum charge

[sleek lynx]

If getting what I want requires any amount of luck, it’s bad

[tulip kettle]

right but it doesnt make any significant difference

[pallid stump]

the smyker stirs within me

[fierce crest]

yeah but its trivial to get a specific stat roll

[jovial juniper]

Go for it

[fierce crest]

so may as well get it

[tulip kettle]

i mean, its much harder to get stat rolls that arent just 60 in a dump stat

so if you need to get something with a non 60 dump stat then sure i agree

[fierce crest]

yeah 8^40

[tulip kettle]

but we are literally talking about warp res here

people roll for long times to get weapons they can upgrade to 4 80's and a lower than 60 WR

but getting 60 WR is trivial

i have this btw, care to enlighten me what it should be?

[sleek lynx]

Yes there is. Working towards something I know I’m guaranteed to get eventually feels a lot better than pulling a slot machine and praying

[tulip kettle]

dude, wtf

i just explained the math

[jovial juniper]

@noble axle

[tulip kettle]

getting a force sword with 60 warp res dump takes a minute or two at most

[sleek lynx]

Once again, my mind cannot be changed. I will always hate random rolls no matter what

[jovial juniper]

Allows for 8 shots before overheating
While also keeping the highest fire rate possible due to the stat spread

[sleek lynx]

It literally doesn’t or else I would have one

[tulip kettle]

click the button for 2 minutes

you will buy 60

[sleek lynx]

I am at 60 already

Guess what?

No warp res dump

[tulip kettle]

the odds of not getting the correct dump on 60 rolls is 0.0000001152

oh wow dude

[sleek lynx]

I literally asked what the next best dump was and got called poor instead

[tulip kettle]

you just rolled a 1 in 10 million chance

go buy a lottery ticket.

[sleek lynx]

The same thing happened to me with plasma gun

[strong gulch]

When I batch buy, I more often miss the dump stat I'm looking for.

Find it when I double checking.

[sleek lynx]

I’m 80 rolls deep there

See if there wasn’t RNG nonsense in the first place I wouldn’t have a problem

[tulip kettle]

i mean 100 rolls is 1 million dockets so youre still financially better off than your proposed system

and tbh

i do not believe you rolled 60 greys and didnt get a single warp res dump

[sleek lynx]

Just let me work towards what I want. I don’t want a slot machine

[tulip kettle]

i just dont believe you

[sleek lynx]

Well regardless if you do or not, over the course of 3 days I still do not have one

I’ve gotten 60 mobility which I should’ve just kept

[marble crater]

Maybe you should try to roll for damage dump stat

[long saddle]

I spent 2.5 mil yesterday and I could only get mine to 68/72

[tulip kettle]

yeah i did just say that getting non 60 dumps is significantly harder

but here were just looking for any warp res dump

record a 1 minute video of spam clicking buy grey FGS

[long saddle]

I have spent a bit more money to get warp res swords to about 30% and rest maxed

[tulip kettle]

yeah i said that too

getting sub 60 and 80 in everything else is harder

and going back to plasma, mine is obviously not "perfect"

[sleek lynx]

My most common roll by far is 60 finesse

[long saddle]

I don't have anything to spend my money on anyway, I'm still at 22 mil atm

[tulip kettle]

but i get the same shots on this thermal resistance

[plucky flax]

Dom do you want to derank?

I still haven't cleared that map.

[tulip kettle]

i wuld like to do the opposite 🙂

me and bottomfragger cleared ascension riser earlier

i am ready

[plucky flax]

I played 3 rounds today lost all 3.

Veri based.

[marble crater]

For ranking up you need to contact Karien

God willing she is actually sleeping though

[sleek lynx]

You know I just got a 60 defenses greatsword. I’m just gonna go all in on that I don’t fucking care

I like the activate anyway so warp res does something

[marble crater]

Greatsword already has bad dodges, so you really don't want to dump defenses for even worse dodges

[sleek lynx]

I don’t fucking care I’m sick of rolling

Maybe I’ll get a better one when the devs make a less garbage system

[marble crater]

Ok

[sleek lynx]

Slot machines are a waste of time and money same as irl

Also smite is great I’m never switching off of it

[marble crater]

Now you are just rage baiting and it's not even good

[sleek lynx]

No I’m dead serious about smite

I like the cc

This class doesn’t have the on demand invincibility that my main does so it’s nice

I can just stun a horde then slide in with the greatsword

[jovial juniper]

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-avengers-finally-someone-who-speaks-english-captain-america-tony-stark-gif-17147260

[sleek lynx]

Imma play melee smyker

[atomic apex]

I've honestly favoured Brain Rupture as my Blitz.

I have the Blaze Greatsword for the Deflector Blessing and the Electrokenetic Force Staff.

[kind jay]

hell yeah

[strong gulch]

Huh. My character kept going forward even tho I stopped holding W. That ledged me, then a funny death chain happened; including a sniper ledging someone trying to get me up, and then me getting yeeted because a buster exploded when someone was able to get the res.

Enemies running in place should have been a warning.

[kind jay]

thats cause all the lunchables are being destroyed

everyones on edge

(mods pls dont ban me)

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[hearty wolf]

you're both going to hell

[jovial juniper]

Unlikely

Hell ain't moving

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-gif-13095906

[strong gulch]

hi sin

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-laugh-you-go-to-hell-gif-3873033866034814568

[sleek lynx]

Ok I can’t play melee because I was reminded that when playing with randoms I am the only one that ever actually shoots ranged enemies

[verbal thistle]

people shoot ranged enemies?

[pale narwhal]

Yuh uh

[sleek lynx]

I’m a veteran main it’s my job

But part of why I hate playing anything else

[verbal thistle]

vet isnt the ranged class though

but I do see what you mean

[strong gulch]

EK shriek.

shooters go bye bye and if the don't get stopped enough to hit them again

also the horde gone

[sleek lynx]

Vet is high value target eliminator

[verbal thistle]

so is every class

arby can easily out range vet

[sleek lynx]

Well 99% of the randoms I play with do nothing but melee little guys while getting melted by ranged enemies

[verbal thistle]

there isnt really any class roles

its just people's playstyle while playing that class

[atomic apex]

I blow their heads up because my accuracy is atrocious. 🫠

[verbal thistle]

and often vet players just play ranged combat

[sleek lynx]

Veterans, including me, are like the only people that actually shoot at the guys that shoot the team

[strong gulch]

Has not been my experience.

[verbal thistle]

same

[strong gulch]

I get mostly vets who just shoot the horde.

A lot of them shoot bursters into their own faces too.

[jovial juniper]

As the dedicated marksman vet
It's me

[verbal thistle]

lol

yeah

[jovial juniper]

I'm the one shooting

[prime elk]

recon las vet spraying into horde

[jovial juniper]

[strong gulch]

When I get the rare good vet tho, is a nice time.

[sleek lynx]

Well I don’t shoot hordes cuz that’s what my melee weapon and teammates are for. I shoot the guys that shoot everyone else mostly because no one else shoots at them

[verbal thistle]

I actually dont remeber the last pub (non friend) that shot ranged enemies

while playing vet

[atomic apex]

I used to use the Revolver to snipe with.

[white sky]

I cant remember the last vet I had that made me go "damn this dude really knows whats up"

[sleek lynx]

When I tried to play Ogryn I had a horrible time because I hate all his guns and no one ever shot at ranged enemies in the matches I played

[white sky]

What diff are you in?

[sleek lynx]

This has been my experience in everywhere including auric

Everyone just plays Dynasty Warriors and no one ever pulls a gun out

Except me

Because I genuinely prefer the gunplay to melee in this game mostly

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-clones-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-21609842

[white valley]

MK V ripper gun is your friend

[prime elk]

sorry but that's like the coldest take ever

[white sky]

Most people would prefer to shoot everything

Ime

Ik i would

Very few guns enable that tho tbh

[sleek lynx]

Odd because once again literally every random essentially plays melee only

[sleek lynx]

Yea that’s another problem I have with the game

[prime elk]

all the pubbies i see are the other way around

[white valley]

Nah I like slicing heretic skulls

[prime elk]

shoot too much, out of ammo

[sleek lynx]

Well my experience has been completely different

God forbid I get put into a lobby with 2 zealots and an arb/ogryn

Those lobbies while playing ogryn myself were miserable

[white sky]

Well

Have you considered youre not supposed to be shooting a lot?

[sleek lynx]

Yea I learned that the hard way

Got recommended this game from playing Deep Rock Galactic so I expected something similar

I was tricked lol

[verbal thistle]

this is a "ranged focus" horde shoote build atop a engine made for a melee focus game

it was doomed from the start

[white sky]

Tbh I never took it as ranged focused

[verbal thistle]

it was more ranged then VT

[white sky]

I just took vet as being more of a hybrid then anything else

[verbal thistle]

tahts what I meant

he is

[white sky]

That's fair

Like VTs ranged characters didnt shoot as much as vet

[verbal thistle]

ehhh

I'd argue

Vt range shot more

then any dt otuside psyker

[white sky]

Uhhhh

Hm

[strong gulch]

VT is the this game's predecessor. DT has A LOT more melee overall VT.

DT is more even in terms of tool use.

[white sky]

Idk actually

[verbal thistle]

Huntsman, waystalker, sister can easily range like 95% of the time

with a good frontline in high diff

[white sky]

My mind is mostly

[verbal thistle]

I was literally jhusyt doing that

[white sky]

BH Saltz fwiw

Who ig didnt shoot a lot but shot very high value things very well

Unless you count the rapier

I shot that bitch all the time lmfao

[verbal thistle]

I woudlnt

[strong gulch]

but ye some can range a lot

VT doesn't have a bunch of ranged enemies the way DT does

[white sky]

Nah, they were more painful tho

Those archers fucked me up tbh

[royal totem]

huh. i shoot at ranged a lot

guess i'm playing this class wrong

[verbal thistle]

there is no right way

[white sky]

I swing the very big sword until I can throw a magical beam at them

[verbal thistle]

its "your way"

is how the class is meant to be playued

[white sky]

https://youtu.be/qQzdAsjWGPg?si=xsOIWeBylqrd2-cR

[royal totem]

i really like charging crushers with BtL

[white sky]

Me too pal

[kind jay]

shooting is just really long range melee. its all about mindset!

[jovial juniper]

True

[royal totem]

so true story

[jovial juniper]

I want to stab the guy

Be he's all the way over there

[royal totem]

today i took a "shortcut" i thought was a shortcut

..........

plot twist: it wasn't

[weary crane]

Wait, new class coming? That's pretty quick after arby

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Reveal Nov 11

[weary crane]

Anyone have any idea?

[jovial juniper]

Release most likely December

[white sky]

When exactly did arby drop?

[royal totem]

all ranged is deadly to me so i just shoot them if i can

[white sky]

Codename in files is broker, a lot of people think its some sort of hive ganger class

Unless you mean release date

That i do not know

[weary crane]

Interesting

[jovial juniper]

Battle For Tertium?
Jun 19

Or was it NaV

[white sky]

Thank you

Oh nvm, half thank you

[jovial juniper]

No no

June

NaV is way way back

[white sky]

Pretty recently tho

Thank you

[weary crane]

I honestly don't know how they will be able to make new talents, playstyles and weapons for another class without them being the same as others

[white sky]

Uhhh

Look at what doesnt exist from VT2 yet

[jovial juniper]

They were announced in may released June

[white sky]

Should give you a decent idea

Like how Arb Charge is just Footknight Kruber charge

[weary crane]

Aren't arbys hive gangers worst enemy?

Why would they work together lol

[white sky]

Tbh Arby normally worries with more high level threats+40k is allies of convenience the setting

[rich spindle]

New class should only have weapons that deal infinite cleave aoe, and have a node that gives 10% toughness on taking step

[white sky]

I hope its more balanced than release arb

I doubt it tho

[plucky flax]

Famous last words from dom

[weary crane]

New class: adeptus astartes

[white sky]

I would prefer almost nothing less

I do kinda

Fear that inevitably it'll happen

[marble crater]

GW will forbid it

We can't even get arby skins

[white sky]

I wonder why that is tbh

Like the actual reason

[tulip kettle]

literally i say it and they just clown car around the corner

[languid fable]

I definitely feel like fatshark is going to tend towards overpowered rather than risk the class being viewed as "weak" and getting review bombed by arrowhead fans

[tulip kettle]

i survived an amazingly long time though

dodge game on point

until it wasnt.

[white sky]

Its just how dlc characters are across gaming ime. Release broken, get toned down after the majority of sales

[weary crane]

Tbh something like ratling would be good, something that can climb walls or jump high, and then pick off enemies

[white sky]

I want a Magos Biologis

Or a techie of any sort

[languid fable]

Well, what can you do. Money talks I guess. Might as well just enjoy the new class even if its broken op

[weary crane]

Tech priest in a tank yes

[weary crane]

Lmao look at clash royale

[white sky]

I get bored when something is too strong

[weary crane]

Release OP card that's locked behind paywall and then nerf it to the ground after everyone has bought

[white sky]

Tbh my brain went to Siege

Release op dlc characters

Nerf into oblivion in 2 months

Buff them back into playability in another 2

[tulip kettle]

after watching it back im convinced if we all just stayed up on the top bit we were fine

[plucky flax]

This map is too tiny for rot stim combo

[tulip kettle]

it is very hard for noob like me

[weary crane]

I'm in a 2 psyker game is that anyone on here

[royal totem]

what's psyker? i dun play it

[white sky]

Nem an arby main now

I see them there enough

[royal totem]

when i feel like being meme-y i pull out zealot

but i dont have a good win rate on zealot

[hearty wolf]

friend?

[royal totem]

all the people i play with are psyker mains so it's harder for me to play with them if i'm also a psyker

[white sky]

I dont think ive ever complained about more psykers tbh

[royal totem]

running 2 psyker is fine. running 3 is a bit much imo so i just play arb

[hearty wolf]

lets play

rn

[royal totem]

also, i forgot how much of a gunner trap power matrix is on a scab seed that was hell

[atomic apex]

I love sending enemies flying and using the large LMG.

But I'm still a Psyker main.

[radiant frigate]

objectively correct

[atomic apex]

I have the big sword, but I use it as a shield. 😅

I've been using the staff to bonk my enemies before hurling lightning at them.

[white sky]

Thank you fellow Connoisseur

[hearty wolf]

Jesus I just played a game so bad, I remembered why I stopped playing

I'm going to stop playing again xds

[atomic apex]

What happened?

[hearty wolf]

People not being able to press W

Walked up to trigger boss spawn, I deal 70/72k of its hp before my smyker decided to try and climb back up the ledge of no return I guess

Ogryn spends his time losing a 1v1 to a stalker

Zealot is debating whether he needs to pick up the small tin of ammo

[atomic apex]

So bad teammates?

[hearty wolf]

Yes

I should have just stayed back and waited for a 90 minute mission I guess

[kind jay]

lore accurate squad

[atomic apex]

Sorry to hear about that. I got abandoned in a game where the Modifier is no lights.

I was in the dark with a horde on me and nobody even tried to make it back for me.

[hearty wolf]

How about we q

surely it can't be that bad

surely

[royal totem]

was that in havoc? or just regular

[hearty wolf]

havoc

regular I wouldn't give a shit, teammates are optional

[royal totem]

lmao i'm going to print out "teammates are optional" and frame that

idk what havoc you play cuz i only play scrubby havocs

[hearty wolf]

even there I could have easily lived. I just assumed that within 30 seconds, my teammates could have walked 10m forward to intercept even 1 of the 8 blue ragers on me

40 but I'm deranked to some degen rank

like

20

or something

[royal totem]

ah. sounds right for 20s

[hearty wolf]

get me out 😭

[royal totem]

i'm at my season highest rank which is not an impressive rank

[hearty wolf]

what is it?

[royal totem]

25

[hearty wolf]

ye fuck it

lets do it?

[royal totem]

my mission is too ass to play lol

[hearty wolf]

it will be fineeeeee

[royal totem]

errr no it won't. it's power supply interruption and i'm very very afraid of the dark

[hearty wolf]

Purg staff lights the way

[weary crane]

ScyersGazeEnjoyer

[coral jungle]

Anyone know if the blessed by fate penance still progress if i have the venting shriek upgrade?

[marble crater]

What is the blessed by fate penance about? But probably yes

[long saddle]

yes, all penances that are based on the starting ability work with the upgraded one

same with auras

[marble crater]

Ogryn throwing box in eye didn't back when I did it, hopefully that's fixed by now though

[coral jungle]

Use psykinetics wrath to survive perils of the warp 50 times

[long saddle]

still yes

[coral jungle]

Kkty

[verbal thistle]

EP assail is still so fun

[marble crater]

Ah that, I remember doing that intentionally, in hindsight that wasn't really needed but also not hard to do intentionally either, so

[strong gulch]

[long wharf]

what's your build?

do you go SG?

[verbal thistle]

obsurus EK

SG

yeah

no soulblaze

[long wharf]

why obscurus?

[verbal thistle]

I like it

[long wharf]

preference then, okay

[long wharf]

I find DD does a better job of boosting damage than EP

problem is assail doesn't give you a way to quell on kill

and sadly EK doesn't let you take advantage of the weakspot damage boost of SG

gasp no EE?

[thorn cedar]

going all in on that cleave i see

gotta admire it

[long wharf]

yeah, I'm not sure an additional point of cleave (2 -> 3) is worth it

could drop that and take EE

or even Battle Meditation

[long wharf]

have you really noticed a difference taking Ethereal Shards?

[verbal thistle]

I never not take it

so idk

[long wharf]

I bet you can easily drop it and not notice

[verbal thistle]

will try

[long wharf]

pick up Battle Meditation for the peril gain reduction and chance to quell

[verbal thistle]

no thanks

[long wharf]

why not?

[verbal thistle]

I like peril gen

I have a rythem

[long wharf]

are you throwing shards while in SG?

[verbal thistle]

no

only after

[long wharf]

ah

[verbal thistle]

SG is for melee

and WU

[long wharf]

okay, so what about Malefic Momentum?

[verbal thistle]

was tempted

[long wharf]

would make when you switch to shards even more effective

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[long wharf]

if you like peril, why Reality Anchor upgrade to SG?

you'd get more out of Precognition

both during and then after SG, especially with shards

or is that to extend how long you're in SG?

since you aren't taking Warp Expenditure up top

not WE, Crack of Bone

BCoB lets you massively extend SG duration in melee

[verbal thistle]

I know this

no need to explain

[long wharf]

is it just a playstyle thing, then?

[verbal thistle]

yes

[long wharf]

ok

[thorn cedar]

ainz if u hold right click u can block some attacks

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/driller-scout-deep-rock-drg-deep-rock-galactic-gif-6432906521412216961

[long wharf]

shift lets you sprint, too

[thorn cedar]

i saw u get hit once i am not sure if that is a playstyle thing

[brisk scarab]

Hey if I'm a Psyker that's using something like a Claw Sword, that's terrible against armor, how do you usually compensate for that? Try to bring a gun that can work against armor or what

[marble crater]

All the staves are good against armor, except inferno for crushers, some are more single target, some are different forms of aoe

But all can deal with armor

[ornate hamlet]

You could also use brain burst with kinetic flayer. Mix that with staffs like sut above said, maybe lean a bit into soulblaze and you’re laughing.

Inferno staff will take out scab ragers/maulers reliably and fast!

[long wharf]

the only enemies soulblaze doesn't kill pretty quickly is crushers and monstrosities

[tulip kettle]

you should ask ainz for some of his solo H40 vids homie

and soulblaze is pretty fucking decent vs crushers if you stack uncanny + superiority

obviously not just one

but blobs of 20

[marble crater]

Pots

[atomic apex]

Thats what I do!

[tulip kettle]

realistically if youre running dclaw on psyker you are going to kite crushers to your team and ask them to kill them for you.

[ornate hamlet]

It works like a charm! As much as I like inferno staff though, I always go to Trauma staff. Something about watching hordes explode with body parts flying all over the screen just never gets old

[tulip kettle]

unfortunately thats not the reality of trauma

[atomic apex]

I use the Electrokenetic one lately, though used to use Voidstrike.

[tulip kettle]

blazing trauma is OK vs hordes outside of havoc

its viable in havoc too with shrieking flames

but thats only because of the broken interaction with it

the actual damage on trauma is pretty bad, its focussed on a very small area

which, with brittle and PoTS can be "ok" vs crushers

but when theres 20+ of em all thats gonna end up happening is you knock some down, kill a couple, and eventually you will either leak one or one will stand up and be stagger immune

[long wharf]

what broken interaction?

[tulip kettle]

then you go splat

[royal totem]

Wonder if rampaging will be back to havoc soon

[tulip kettle]

that blazing applies soulblaze to every enemy in the stagger aoe not just the damage aoe

[long wharf]

oh, you said "broken" as if it was a bug

that's what I'd expect

[tulip kettle]

and then shriek puts them all at 10 stacks

well, 12 if you crit twice on VB

which is enough to actually kill the trash

[long wharf]

I wish voidstrike could apply soulblaze on the explosion

and that the blast radius was about 10x bigger

[tulip kettle]

but even in that situation you arent using it to kill crushers

and definitely not rot crushers

so as i said, really with dclaw you can handle a crusher or 2 with brainburst / a staff

but when youre getting blobs of 20 youre just gonna run to your team and hope they deal with them for you

[ornate hamlet]

Only thing trauma is good for vs crushers I find is throwing them around. But yeah, in terms of killing them…not so much.

[tulip kettle]

exactly

then they stand up

and are stagger immune

and you or your team have a bad time

[strong gulch]

pretty sure the explosion on VS does apply SB on a crit

[ornate hamlet]

This is why I run FGS if I use trauma for reliable killing. But even still, psyker in melee, while potent, is like walking the edge of a knife vs crusher patrols. Still, only one way to get better I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tulip kettle]

factual

FGS is really very good vs crushers

can hit 2 hit breakpoint even in H40

plus the push attack staggers them out of overhead animation without knocking them down and making them stagger immune

[sinful peak]

I run DS with trauma in havoc

[tulip kettle]

mhmmm.

is this blazing trauma with shrieking flames?

[sinful peak]

bubble

[tulip kettle]

interesting.

[strong gulch]

behold

[sinful peak]

is it? DS for crushers and bosses, trauma for everything else

[tulip kettle]

well trauma is doing nothing

[sinful peak]

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/brave-why-controversial-yet-so-brave-gif-16881791

i mean i just explained why

if youe running blazing spirit on it

you are capped at 6 stacks

which is just not enough for anything meaningful

and if you arent, the actual damaging aoe is tiny

[long wharf]

I don't think weapons should have their own separate stack cap

[tulip kettle]

so all youre doing is knocking stuff over

[long wharf]

that staff is an absolute troll weapon, potato

[tulip kettle]

i mean idk why blazing on staves is 6 but 12 on melee

just cap it at 12 on staves and its suddenly much better

as it is its essentially unplayable without shriek

[long wharf]

blazing spirit on swords needs apply the soulblaze before the enemy dies in the same frame

[tulip kettle]

just make warp slash apply the soulblaze on crits

[verbal thistle]

we need psyker buffs

[long wharf]

if that were changed, it'd be a viable thing

[tulip kettle]

and you open up a bunch of builds

WAITER, WAITER

[long wharf]

I absolute would love warp slash to apply soulblaze

[bright summit]

6 is fine it just means you gotta run shriek with it we don't need staves to be any stronger

[tulip kettle]

i mean thats what im saying

[long wharf]

it's silly for weapons to be capped at what they can apply

[tulip kettle]

just make it 12 so you arent forced to run shriek with it

and so it matches the melee version

[long wharf]

stacks should be capped only by enemy type

[bright summit]

Make the melee one 6 too

[tulip kettle]

i mean as it stands, remove the melee one

its a noob trap

it does nothing

[long wharf]

can you imagine blazing spirit working properly on melee?

it'd make Wildfire actually useful

[tulip kettle]

now youre trolling again

[long wharf]

🙂

[tulip kettle]

wildfire is amazing

[long wharf]

I disagree with that

[tulip kettle]

go ahead and disagree

you are wrong

[hearty wolf]

wildfire sucks

[long wharf]

wildfire still has the stack limit of 4

[tulip kettle]

and so?

[long wharf]

its limitations keep it from being good

[tulip kettle]

i think if you understand the interaction with souldrinker/IFR/KF you wont say its bad

[long wharf]

I get that it lets you reach enemies you otherwise immediately wouldn't

[tulip kettle]

its not just that

it means every enemy that dies is proccing souldrinker

it means every enemy that dies is rolled for IFR

[long wharf]

that's true

but I personally only ever go into Warp Siphon (and thus take IFR) with purge

[strong gulch]

wildfire is for SB maxxing

[long wharf]

and with purge, I'm already putting warpfire on everything

all the time

everywhere

[tulip kettle]

between the interactions with KF, souldrinker, PC and IFR

its stupid not to take it if you are otherwise running soulblaze builds

if your build has no soulblaze then sure dont take it

[long wharf]

the only usecase for Wildfire being noticeable at all is if you aren't running purge

[tulip kettle]

again, just wrong

we were playing the other day and i got 22 gunner killfeed

[strong gulch]

Range extension
precooking
faster SB app is better
better facilitation of SB snowballing with the related talents

[tulip kettle]

before they ever entered the map

[strong gulch]

wildfire good

[tulip kettle]

that doesnt happen without wildfire

[strong gulch]

now if you don't want to take wildfire, then don't

if you have little SB source, like only PC, then wildfire not good

[long wharf]

man, my builds are already stretched thin on points

I usually only ever take PC

outside of purge

[tulip kettle]

then thats fine

dont bother with it

but if you have say, KF PC and creeping flames

take it

[strong gulch]

PC good on purg

[long wharf]

PC is simply good

KF = Kinetic Flayer?

[tulip kettle]

yes

[long wharf]

I just about never go into BB, either

[tulip kettle]

yeah but dude your build knowledge is just kinda outdated since the changes

[long wharf]

but I can see the interaction with the revamped KF, PC and Wildfire

[bright summit]

depends on the build but if you path through it and don't need the other companion nodes then it doesn't matter

[long wharf]

I mean, very possible if not likely

I certainly don't play as much as you do

[tulip kettle]

yeah its not a flame, no pun intended

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-5632946

[tulip kettle]

but with the accessibility of souldrinker and the interactions with all the talents, wildfire is even better now than it used to be

[long wharf]

I'd have to stop using assail

that's a really hard ask

[tulip kettle]

and it was always at least good despite what many people said

i mean i dont tend to use it with assail builds

[long wharf]

infernus recon lasgun build

[tulip kettle]

but thats because assail builds are generlly very light on soulblaze

yeah bubble knight / scriers recon assail FGS are great and dont need wildfire because they dont care about soulblaze

its very normal to drop PC on those builds

[long wharf]

I always find that I miss PC when I don't have it

[tulip kettle]

PC is gonna do like, 40k dmg in a 1 million dmg game

with no other soulblaze support

[verbal thistle]

works better with worse teammates

good for solo/clutch

gets worse the better the team

[long wharf]

it's great at facilitating snowballing elite groups

[sleek lynx]

Man as much everyone sucks this class off as the best in the game I still don’t like it as much as veteran

[royal totem]

and that's a personal opinion and valid 🤷

[atomic apex]

I've found Soulfire to go well with Brain Rupture because of you Rupture an elites brain, it spreads to enemies around and when they die, it spreads even further.

And if you take into account the 100% chance to Rupture an elites brain every now and then, you can set a horde on fire by striking an elite, or the flame scream will set them on fire, kill the elite, and add more stacks of soulfire.

Plus, it works well when the elites group up because they burn and when another perishes, the fire spreads all over again.

[sleek lynx]

Man I don’t even know why I was trying so hard to get a groll blaze sword this weapon kinda mid. Imma just use dueling sword

[prime elk]

all the blaze swords are good tho

[weary idol]

yeah but Illisi is noticably the least good so it must be put into a pit of shame

[prime elk]

true

[ornate hamlet]

This is how I see it. Psyker is best class in game until it isn’t.
When things are going good, it’s going incredibly good. Like unstoppable, killing everything in sight, doing most of the heavy lifting for the group.

Then you get netted, some groaners come from behind and you’re down in seconds. Then it’s all downhill from there. Lol

That could be said of any operative, but psyker is ultimate glass cannon compared to them though

[patent mango]

veteran is defo in a way better state with pfalchion now

but i still just dont really like their abilities and stuff too much.........

wish pfalchion was a little stronger maybe? a lot of people mention its kinda weak

[ornate hamlet]

You can use power sword instead and it works amazing

[patent mango]

yeah but psword is uh

[ornate hamlet]

OP

[patent mango]

some of the worst gameplay

[ornate hamlet]

lol

[patent mango]

so im always gonna use pfalchion instead

[ornate hamlet]

I have yet to try it out properly. I messed around a little with it

[patent mango]

its just a smaller relic blade basically

[sleek lynx]

I use shovel on my vet

[sleek lynx]

Yea. I will say the greatsword is very cool

It’s the one thing the class has that I wish veteran had

My guiding Moonlight

[ornate hamlet]

I love my FGS. That warp slice is just….

[sleek lynx]

Yea it’s very satisfying and I like the rest of the weapon too. Arguably more than my beloved shovel

Are any of the staves besides inferno worth using? I need something with range

I’ve just been using bolt pistol

[ornate hamlet]

Void strike staff is a good one! Ever try it?

[sleek lynx]

I have not. Haven’t gotten one to drop

[static vessel]

Whats yall least favorite mission

[ornate hamlet]

Just head to brunt’s armoury! If you left click you fire the little warp balls like normal. But if you hold rirgt mouse it charges and fires a big one that will kill just about anything.

[ornate hamlet]

I hate rolling steel, the train with a bomb one. Such an annoying mission.

I also don’t like the excise vault. Kinda boring to me.

My fav though is consignment yard HL-17-36. Most epic last stand out of all the missions I feel.

Guaranteed boss, tons of snipers, hordes, specials…it’s glorious. PLUS, it has imperial march that plays the whole last part of the mission

Special mention to mercantile 70-04 in the carnival

[weary idol]

mid weapon

[sleek lynx]

The game isn’t gonna give me one with a good roll so I’ll just stick to bolt pistol ig

[patent mango]

kinda? its defo the most fun vet melee for me but its just not that interesting compared to the peak ones

too similar to relic blade too

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[sleek lynx]

It’s pretty bad honestly

[patent mango]

oof

watch the next class have a 2 hander

meanwhile vet still wont have one

i've said before that i never thought that vet would be the 5th to get a 2 hander

but if new class drops with one vet will be the 6th

[ripe obsidian]

I just got 2 pogryns, a BoN, and twins in the very first room of Mercantile.

what the fuck

not even weakened ones

[verbal thistle]

I noticed that

after 2ndw all si broken

I think its due to mercentile weird way of progression start

I can reliably get 1-2 full hp bosses before I put down the auspex

probably a backlog of special spawns

which combines into a monsterous special with the full hp bug

or there is a bugged boss trigger that is triggered early

[ornate hamlet]

Ainz, I know you’ve been playing for ages and are prob one of the more willing to help with advice in these groups.

When would you say is a good time for someone to start doing havoc? As in “do 5 auric maelstroms in a row without dying” sort of thing? Or is it even as hard as that?

[rain wren]

He needs his free hand for his other gun

[verbal thistle]

Depends on havoc rank

havoc is open when you beat a maelstrom

and it doesnt actually start getting difficulty until rank 30

I say h29 and below is comparable to auric-auric maelstrom

[rain wren]

Anything before 20 more like malice

[verbal thistle]

its literally up to you to try and see how it feels

[royal totem]

think like 15 is heresy? something like that

[rain wren]

I feel like 20 is where it starts feeling like mixture of heresy and damnation

More depending on who with you

[ornate hamlet]

I’ve unlocked havoc, but don’t you need to play with an actual party? Like a premade?

[rain wren]

Yes

[zealous wing]

0-10 is malice
11-20 is heresy

[ornate hamlet]

Ahhhh. So I’d have to start playing with you fine people

[rain wren]

Just need one other and you get bots

[zealous wing]

ye depending on difficulty, one player and 2 bots works fine

[ornate hamlet]

Well, I play on auric maelstroms/mutators as it is, so I think I’m at least ready to give it a try.

[zealous wing]

so youre h16 now, yeah?

auric maels put you at h16, heresy mael does h1

[candid temple]

on auric, it's usually mid af, but sometimes you get those teams where nobody else has any horde clear tools

[royal totem]

thought it puts you at 15 😮

[ornate hamlet]

Dang. I can only imagine how much better I’ll need to get to clear 40

[candid temple]

just get carried

or wait for next class

it'll probably be op at launch again

[ornate hamlet]

lol. I’ll play my zealot main and do the best I can.

[zealous wing]

h40 is rough, but h16 sounds chill

[rain wren]

I'm hoping the new class is good

[zealous wing]

what region are you? maybe i can join

[ornate hamlet]

I’m east coast of Canada. I work night shift. Will be home in…1.5 hours

[zealous wing]

i can do NA East

[wind spruce]

its abomination time

[ornate hamlet]

When I get home I’ll see if there’s anything I need to do! If I’m free I’ll jump on

[zealous wing]

sounds good

[royal totem]

i feel like Hexis is the most aggressively social person i know xD

[ripe obsidian]

I think corrupted cranium or whatever spawns more rotten armor than usual

not getting nearly as much on a purple map

[royal totem]

huh 😮

cranial corruption btw

[ripe obsidian]

anyone wanna do H40s? Rot + Purple Mercantile still.

[royal totem]

that sounds....terrifying

[sleek lynx]

Man this class kinda just sucks against crushers huh

[wind spruce]

yeah it sucks oneshotting them

[sleek lynx]

Well if you aren’t running dueling sword

Then you just kinda do nothing

[wind spruce]

or 3 out of the 4 force swords

or combat blade

[sleek lynx]

My force greatsword just bounces off of them

[wind spruce]

then youre doing it wrong

[sleek lynx]

Even with scrier’s up

[wind spruce]

brosef i be oneshotting crushers with FGS

[sleek lynx]

Well my shit doesn’t do that

I miss my kraks

[indigo plank]

I don't ONE shot them but yeah like 2 stabs or so

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/8BPWnP

[wind spruce]

yeah to be fair an actual one shot is pretty rare but you should be in the 2-3 swing range most of the time if you're running scriers, FGS bonks

[indigo plank]

Yeah that's what I mean lol

[wind spruce]

yeah was agreeing with you

[indigo plank]

If you just kite them you can just keep spamming overhead + stab and they can't really do much unless you're in hav where crushers dont stop swinging

I still take trauma just in case for when they bunch up on ledges

Apply all that brittleness for the homies and then get chop chop choppin

[sleek lynx]

My vet one shotted them

Every second I spend playing a class that isn’t vet makes me wish I was playing vet

[hearty wolf]

No

I don't want to be smoke grenade vet 😭

[ripe obsidian]

I just did a stims/cranial mercantile, and it was honestly easy

for some reason, cranial + rot has been the hardest for me by far

[strong gulch]

you still doing them?

[ripe obsidian]

62 damage taken, all from doggos

[ripe obsidian]

I am, but I am currently in a group. If it falls apart, we ride

[zealous wing]

might need to get mine done soon

[royal totem]

Whats "soon'

Cuz i could do dat one

[zealous wing]

1d19h

within

[royal totem]

Yeah but when you playing?

[zealous wing]

spouse is home and settled, so, im on now, waiting for the other person first, but then i suppose after that havoc

[royal totem]

Im up for another up to 2 hrs

[zealous wing]

if it doesnt line up, perhaps tomorrow? otherwise, tonight sounds good

would need at least a 3rd for 26, and ideally a 4th "not-completely-fucking-random-person"

dunno if i should practice inferno or not. h16 might not have good density for it yet. probably gunker, i am happy with the drip

@royal totem is it just me or does this drip look oddly birdlike to you too?

[royal totem]

it does look very birdlike 😮

i'd get my friend to help with 26 but he's off for the night -_-

[zealous wing]

fair enough

we could aim for mine tomorrow

[royal totem]

nah his hours are pretty random so he's always a gamble

[zealous wing]

this is the h40 regularly friend, ye?

[royal totem]

like i said though, around another nearly 2 hours

[royal totem]

yeah

i heard for a 3rd time today that it's a confidence issue stopping me from clearing h40 ._.

[deft stump]

But but, my skills are like random person but even more gambly.

[royal totem]

people are all wrong

it's a skill issue

i jumped off a ledge today in power matrix thinking "it's a shortcut"

nope. it was a ledge that killed me

[zealous wing]

see, youre better than a rando because i KNOW you'll probably do some dumb shit, or some clever shit, with randos, you THINK they're ok then they pull some BS like a last moment build swap to stealth hammer bonk then die and abandon team

[deft stump]

I'm more likely to last min swap to bookbot.

XD

[zealous wing]

but at least you'll stick around, crashes not counting

[royal totem]

but...but....but.....

i remember

when Dom was super mad

when a zealot switched from bookbot to stealth

[zealous wing]

yeah that was with dom and i

stealth hammer bonk

[royal totem]

i was there

[zealous wing]

ah

maybe, my memory is not great after this week

[deft stump]

Or server said, 30XX or 20XX.

At least people say they swap. I didn't because I'm just going from offensive damage amp to defensive damage amp.

[royal totem]

nobody ever remembers playing with me apparently :3

[zealous wing]

nah its just been a rough week

[deft stump]

I'm just old.

[buoyant mantle]

man I really wish FS would let psyker use bolter,itd be so fucking funni

[royal totem]

............sh it. i'm about to buy aquilas ._.

[deft stump]

I'm older than Pokemon the series.

[zealous wing]

the elf-like shirt?

[royal totem]

i'm older than pokemon

[royal totem]

yeah

[deft stump]

How much older.

[royal totem]

cuz i'm not hopeful for arb drip anytime

[zealous wing]

also honestly the simple face mask works well

[royal totem]

2 years older than the first ever game of pokemon

[deft stump]

I WANT MY RED TRENCHCOAT REEEEEEEEEEEE

[zealous wing]

checking the other free pant options to see if theres a good blend from commissary

[deft stump]

You kid still.

[royal totem]

you'll be waiting forever

[deft stump]

Flees.

[zealous wing]

these ones probably

or these

[royal totem]

to be clear, i'm older than the 1996 game

[zealous wing]

theres options

damn

nemui older than me

[deft stump]

Yes. That was what I meant.

[zealous wing]

didnt see that coming

[ripe obsidian]

Game is rude.

[strong gulch]

😭

[deft stump]

I'm four years before it.

[royal totem]

okay everybody. should i buy aquilas?

[zealous wing]

server issue or RNG issue

[deft stump]

If you have luxury money, do it.

[ripe obsidian]

Won a different mission and got Oubliette, cranial + stims, then won that and got my fucking purple + rot mercantile back

go away, mission

[deft stump]

If you don't and someone sponsors, do it.

[zealous wing]

if you really do like the shirt, and you want to play the game a decent bit longer, yeah, go for it, a little drip genuinely goes a long way, also yeah what karien says

if you can afford it

[deft stump]

If you don't and nobody does and are eating instant all the time, don't.

[zealous wing]

can you buy aquila for someone else?

[deft stump]

At 55cents a cup, $18 will last.

[deft stump]

Steam wallet.

[zealous wing]

ah, put money in for them?

[deft stump]

Ppl straight up just send gift cards.

[zealous wing]

intewesting

[deft stump]

No, Steam Digital Gift Cards.

[zealous wing]

good to know

thanks

[deft stump]

You need a browser extension for custom amounts.

[royal totem]

if i don't spend money on this, i'll spend money on stuffies or art

LOL

[strong gulch]

YOu still up for gaming? EVen with your terrible mission?

Or smaller one

[deft stump]

So luxury money.

[ripe obsidian]

This doesn't look bad, actually

[ripe obsidian]

I'm good to go. Just need to finish my chess game and refill my water

[zealous wing]

well, i do have a havoc that needs doing, if youre fine with an easy h26, spouse is back home and settled, we found what was wrong, so i'm mentally capable now, for havocs

also down to try the h40 if you have a slot

[strong gulch]

oh that's great that y'all know what's up now 🫂

[royal totem]

glad to hear that :3

[deft stump]

I have a consignment yard cranial purple if you think it easier.

But am cooking atm so blep.

All the defrosted meat to finish asap lul.

[ripe obsidian]

I am fine to do a 26. Or we can try the 40. Whichever

[zealous wing]

26 would be a guarenteed win, im sure, h40 win would boost me a lot but there will probably be serious deranking beforehand

[ripe obsidian]

Rotten armor loses the most games for me. It is rude

Everything is rude tonight, apparently. I have forgotten all other adjectives.

[royal totem]

cooking good food?

[strong gulch]

Imagine if these were FGS.

[zealous wing]

do you want book zealot, bubble, inferno, etc? lmk what to play and i'm fine with it, just, not super skilled so its a risk if i take a vital role like CC inferno.

OH does someone have a surge surge build on hand quickly or do i scour the bonanza?

[ripe obsidian]

The bonanza is the on hand quickly. >:(

It is sorted and organized

[zealous wing]

but i get flashbanged :(

[royal totem]

ah so you're playing 40? well i guess i'm not helping then xD

[zealous wing]

idk if we've decided h yet

[wind spruce]

none of them are actually that well rolled because warp resist will hit 20-30% atleast before you max the other stats

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know if google docs has a dark mode

[strong gulch]

Yeah. IS the point. Can spend millions and not even get this.

sorry for caps

[wind spruce]

yeah true haha

[strong gulch]

it got them back to back

[wind spruce]

i spent 20 mill on my low warp resist FGS that i never use hehe

[zealous wing]

browser has a force darkmode, i just gotta remember how to do it

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[royal totem]

i need some thoughts on whether to buy the zealot Arlina Durer body piece

20 mill is probably more than i've ever had in this game

[ripe obsidian]

evens or odds?

Pick one.

[royal totem]

odd

[wind spruce]

i spent a good 35 mill on voidblast staffs back in the day

without even getting an upgrade

[ripe obsidian]

rolled a 2, don't buy it

[wind spruce]

still had to roll with a locked 25% maniacs perk

[strong gulch]

This is how I make a lot of my decisions.

[royal totem]

ok . i'm not buying it :3

[ripe obsidian]

won my chess game on time, but would have won by checkmate.

Alas.

End state of the board

Winning or losing on time feels bad.

Can't checkmate with just a king and knight, is a forced draw. And unless I was very dumb, I could use my rook to clean their pieces easily.

Oh, wait

I took the knight

never mind

[ripe obsidian]

Zealot squad

[verbal thistle]

Havoc when everyone is messing around is so fun

all 4 zealot, all marty, all fury, all 2 handers

[deft stump]

Eh. Just boiled chicken soup.

[zealous wing]

k i have a surge surge, just need a proper EK for it now

(ie, the main part of surge surge)

[strong gulch]

Which is a big reason why I dislike the derank system.

[royal totem]

my only problem is most recipes i know are asian

[verbal thistle]

yes

[deft stump]

I throw everything in a pot with cheapest oyster sauce.

[deft stump]

See what I mean?

[ripe obsidian]

It is storming hard here. I just went walking around my house in the dark to enjoy the aesthetic of lightning illuminating the world in a pale, spectral glow.

[zealous wing]

[ripe obsidian]

And since I have many windows, there is much lightning getting in.

I love storms.

Also, @zealous wing and @royal totem are we doing this H26 or no?

[royal totem]

see, i can't have oyster sauce 🙁

[zealous wing]

im down, what should i bring

[royal totem]

i'm down

[ripe obsidian]

And Hexis, did you say you lived in Bergen? Or am I misremembering?

[zealous wing]

yes,

bergen

[deft stump]

Use mushroom sauce.

[ripe obsidian]

Is Bergen stormy?

[zealous wing]

uh let me check outside

[ripe obsidian]

I mean in general

Weather patterns

[royal totem]

but

i need to know

[zealous wing]

sometimes, but not MEGA often, does also depend on season

[royal totem]

do i bring 6 stam arb

[zealous wing]

its not stormy rn

[royal totem]

or 3 stam arb

[zealous wing]

its cranial / stims

[royal totem]

i only play arb and book bot xD

[ripe obsidian]

Do whatever you want

[royal totem]

ok 6 stam arb time

[deft stump]

You got 6 stam if shield anyway.

[zealous wing]

im going to bring my gunker first, if we lose, i go bubble or bookbot

[royal totem]

you misunderstand. it's +6stam or +3s tam

[zealous wing]

+3 stam, nemui

[deft stump]

I rather hp or toughness then.

[zealous wing]

there shouldnt be huge crusher waves, because its not rot, so, blocking should be fine

[royal totem]

i'm just waiting for an invite

if Six brings arb though i'll bring book bot

if Six brings psyker i'll bring arb lol

[zealous wing]

plot twist, six has vet

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[royal totem]

who's Duck-Weed btw? 😮

[ripe obsidian]

Potato

[royal totem]

ah i see!

i've climbed 3 havoc ranks today

and helped somebody do havoc 1-3

[rich spindle]

NO. You will PRESS F to ACTIVATE BOOK and you will LIKE IT

[hazy birch]

What's the dump stat on inferno staff?

[rich spindle]

Burn

[royal totem]

srry i forgot i'm playing dog. was very confused

[hazy birch]

Really? Interesting

[royal totem]

it's warp resistance

[hazy birch]

🤔

I was thinking warp res myself

[royal totem]

it just factually is warp resistance lol

[hazy birch]

So why he say burn?

[plucky flax]

[rich spindle]

No he’s trolling

It’s burn

[stuck spruce]

if doubt, make 2 staff one 60 warp res, the other 60 burn and compare (but you only use staff for bonk btw)

[deft stump]

My chimkin got stolen by my floofball.

[graceful arch]

man people overhyped this event

[strong gulch]

Silent crusher from behind then lag grabbed by mutie and getting netted right away was not nice of the game.

[graceful arch]

there's like no spawns

:/

[ripe obsidian]

I pressed the veteran buttons and we won the game. Yay

[strong gulch]

yay

[ripe obsidian]

I like the shredder grenades a lot

they're fun

gives me something resembling horde clear

[royal totem]

Six got to see me die

[deft stump]

You rolled poor. I had constant min 3 trappers, 5 real dogs, muties to heck in inferno.

[royal totem]

@deft stump Six has proof i'm bad at this game

[ripe obsidian]

I also went down to my true nemesis, two basic shooters.

[royal totem]

yeah but i actually died

lmao

[deft stump]

Scoreboard?

[royal totem]

whenever i'm not aggressive enough, i just die

[deft stump]

I die if too agressive.

[royal totem]

yeah there's a fine line

[zealous wing]

you died, what, once?

[royal totem]

yeah once

[zealous wing]

beans died twice

[royal totem]

though honestly it's cuz i forgot i was using a diff build

[zealous wing]

are you saying beans is bad?

[strong gulch]

I was dead for half the map

[royal totem]

i've only been playing dogless

[royal totem]

pretty sure less than that

[deft stump]

Will bet will say, I arby, not psyker.

[strong gulch]

nearly half

died twice

[royal totem]

i'm an arb though so i'm tankier

[zealous wing]

YAY i did my job okay!

not great enough but, i did it!

[deft stump]

Have you seen new psyker?

[deft stump]

Seems more balanced than Chaos Syllo 2mil+ damage to my 400k.

[royal totem]

seee????