#psyker-class

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royal totem
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Im the true liability

rain wren
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Fire is fun too I use it for my suicide build for kicks

royal totem
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Play arb but run away from crushers.

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i dont actually

royal totem
strong gulch
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from one liability to another 🤝

deft stump
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I don't even know why I'm there at times.

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Oh right, weekly boxes while Chaos and Syllo carries.

rain wren
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Lol

deft stump
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Totally helping them pad their damage meters.

royal totem
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Like i say. Im too noob to play with Karien

deft stump
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Kark do I know what I'm doing half the time.

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Relying to 300 ping to Both help and not screw me over, yes.

royal totem
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Being likeable enough for ppl to want to play with u is a skill

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i lack it

rain wren
strong gulch
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We all like you plenty.

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stop it

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can't tell me how I feel

deft stump
strong gulch
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yip

royal totem
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Oh god i might have to work sunday evening

strong gulch
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brains can be so mean

deft stump
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Or ehm, willing to suffer the PINGZ to play with friends.

rain wren
royal totem
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Whats your "tonight"

deft stump
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Actually, shouldn't you two just confirm servers.

rain wren
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It is almost 1am currently

deft stump
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Before you realise one of you gotta 300 ping?

royal totem
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Oh ok youre 2 hours ahead of me

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300 ping doesnt stop me from playing with ppl

deft stump
royal totem
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If they do ill just borrow some Karien power

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I have to do a havoc with my friend tmrrw

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My friend will be bored but its k

deft stump
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.-.

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Friend doesn't sound like a friend.

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How can you be bored playing with friends?

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I could have fun playing even uprising with friends.

royal totem
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Friend norm plays h40. H24 is like walking in a park

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Idk

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Friend always says fun to play with me

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I dun get why

deft stump
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It's people.

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Diff doesn't mean much.

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Is why pubbing sucks hard.

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If friend was actually bored, don't think is friend.

royal totem
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I just wish i was good enough to clear h30

kind jay
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you are

deft stump
zealous wing
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yeah its a confidence thing

deft stump
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If you knew how I played, you know i shouldn't be in H40.

royal totem
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I got gunned down in h34

zealous wing
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agent gets gunned down in h40 all the time

deft stump
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So my last resort is that 55 toughness 245 HP Zealot.

deft stump
royal totem
deft stump
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It's H40, shit happens.

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Poor Dom as well.

deft stump
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I run with 55 toughness and all the HP.

royal totem
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Huh. I....see

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Why?

deft stump
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Can eat 2 snipers in the face without hitting untill death.

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Can eat an overhead and not die.

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Going down if Untill death is on CD.

royal totem
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I...see

deft stump
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It's memes.

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I don't suggest anyone do it.

zealous wing
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im thinking about it

royal totem
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Playing 130 toughness in damnation is hard sometimes

deft stump
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But here, if you are curious.

royal totem
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Surprisingly its not hard for a few gunners to erase 130 toughness even in damnation

deft stump
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I do nothing but try to not die so I can aurabot and book.

zealous wing
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no thats like, 1.5 seconds

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maybe 2 if you sprint

deft stump
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That's toughness break.

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XD

summer prairie
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I've been thinking whether toughness is worth taking with high EE uptime builds

zealous wing
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yes

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melee exists

royal totem
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Im suddenly thinking terrible things

zealous wing
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fire exists

summer prairie
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those barely care about toughness in h40

potent echo
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HP loregryn

zealous wing
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i dunno, toughness was up a decent bit before i crashed and burned

potent echo
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Res speed actually

zealous wing
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very least i'd say a toughness node on the hp curios

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depending on what your number is, you dont want NO toughness

deft stump
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Then not enough hp to not be wounded from overhead.

zealous wing
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youll be eating chip damage from every stalker every poxxer

deft stump
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You get 45% hp bar corruption.

zealous wing
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taking an hp and toughness node on a curio doesnt make your hp lower, no?

deft stump
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I tried without.,

zealous wing
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yaeh but youre talking about a zealot still?

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can a Psyker do the same thing

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we're talking toughness vs hp, if psyker has ee

deft stump
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I dunno, I only know the stupid shit I do works on Zealot.

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Also, I still hate typing on keyboard.

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So many typos, so many mistakes.

zealous wing
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i think yes, because ee only works on ranged, as you get critical hits. it doesnt protect from melee, or fire, or if the crit doesnt take, and you have no toughness, you fucked yourself

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base psyker toughness is a fucking joke

deft stump
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I would assume is how much you actually get hit.

rain wren
# zealous wing can a Psyker do the same thing

I do know this toughness takes full damage from first melee hit when it's fullafter that it's percentage from both. Though if you can make your toughness fully regen before next hit you are invincible. Range damage toughness fully take

royal totem
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when does Emperor's Light I start in havoc?

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is it 15? or 20?

summer prairie
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melee damage bleed only cares about percentages, doesn't matter whether you are at 90% of 300 toughness or 90% of 50

deft stump
royal totem
rain wren
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Why it is important to have weapons that are constantly doing kills asap to regen toughness. If you plan on taking damage. That way your hp never moves

deft stump
rain wren
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Yes

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Lol

summer prairie
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psyker can even survive a h40 crusher overhead by stacking hp and corruption res

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without just a dream

deft stump
summer prairie
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for these rotten armor maps at least doesn't sound bad at all

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why do I need to stack toughness with surge surge or bubble knight when I can get ranged immunity on demand

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only slightly helps vs damage bleed for fire and gas but you still have more ehp by stacking hp

deft stump
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Also, book through gas helps.

rain wren
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Low toughness also makes it easier to fully heal as well to take another hit

summer prairie
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well almost every toughness regen is % based

rain wren
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But isn't it based off percentage of damage on some?

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Nvm I looked

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Easier to heal bigger toughness because percentage will make higher amounts of healing

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So if one had 200 total and the other had 100 total and they both took 100 the 200 will heal faster since higher percentage

royal totem
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......................

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i had to solo a burgle in havoc now

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REEEEEEEEEE

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i did win though

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EX shotgun is strong.

rain wren
royal totem
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I ran it in circles and killed it. My team was off somewhere getting killed (somebody did actually die for no reason there)

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Oh also....the smyker was useless

rain wren
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And one of few weapons that are high damage and piercing. So no need for clear shots because it will go through

royal totem
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Sometimes if a special gets blocked by a walker i can shoot anyways and both die

rain wren
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I take out 2 or more gunners with one shot a lot

royal totem
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Small gunners or big. I cant consistently get two gunners in 1 shot in havoc

rain wren
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The reapers take 2-3 shots sometimes more it is all about the distance and what you are using for perks and blessings etc. I prefer charging reapers and using dog to stagger with electricity while I do

royal totem
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Im playing dogless atm

rain wren
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Oh um hmm how far mines go?

royal totem
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Not that far sadly

rain wren
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If it's just 1 reaper shoot the hell out of it

royal totem
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I tend to use cover and let it come to me

rain wren
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You will end up reloading for the 2nd probably

royal totem
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Once it does i can steal its lunch money

rain wren
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But I believe they are flak armor let me look

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Torso is flak so yes it would work with my build. You will do as much shots as I do if you put flak and maniac because those are the only things I use shotgun on. Everything else come close to me

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I use full bore and the stagger thing

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With the exaction mark

royal totem
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Mmm. I just dont shoot carapace with one exception

rain wren
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Yeah I don't put caraspace on range weapons and most of the time my melee is flack and unyielding

ripe obsidian
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Dying to a burster while in a BoN's stomach is sad.

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Many of my losses today were my fault, unfortunately. Getting caught out by disablers or separated from my team

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I have been playing quite poorly lately. Bad awareness

deft stump
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Same for anything they do with born leader, lmao.

fallow token
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how good is penetration of the soul?

solid pond
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better to just abuse uncanny for Soulblaze

radiant frigate
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wait a minute

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we're getting another new class?

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what the fuck-fuck

solid pond
strong gulch
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Yeah pots really only benefits trauma/ VB and assail.

solid pond
white valley
summer prairie
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The new operations better be a havoc map unlike rolling steel

potent echo
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So soon? I expect the teaser to be for stuff in 2026

summer prairie
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I don't think so, especially since they say they are giving more details and insights "in the days" after the reveal

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so most likely same kind of schedule as arbi

quartz barn
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Honestly the new class announcement kinda surprised me, especially this shortly after arbi

deft stump
solid pond
deft stump
solid pond
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so classic its barely said

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so funny

deft stump
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When a game suddenly starts shoving paid DLCs insanely fast, it means game is EoSing in a year or two but unannounced. So they selling all the OP shit asap to rake in the cash.

solid pond
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have already heard someone complain today that the arbites dlc isn't on sale when the game is

deft stump
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This is literally gacha game 101 lul.

solid pond
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uh huh

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darktide players when their game gets content:

deft stump
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Same for certain less gacha games, but online related.

deft stump
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So pretty weird they didn't put it on sale again.

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At least the base version.

white valley
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Announced may 22, released june 23

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Fatshark doesn't tease stuff far ahead

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If they tease it is basically ready to ship already

potent echo
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Perhaps

tulip kettle
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space marine 2 is getting techmarine in january

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last time arby came out on rogue trader at the same time s DT

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i think its pretty obviously ad mech themed and early next year

white valley
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Nah, not admech

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The new class is Psyker 2

tulip kettle
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i mean if its techmarine, its 100% ad mech themed

potent echo
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Playable daemonhost

quartz barn
potent echo
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Cost more than they should?

deft stump
quartz barn
deft stump
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It's like 1/3rd of the base game at full price.

quartz barn
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One thing you hear quite often for example is the amount of hours people spend on a game compared to its quality and price

deft stump
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Many games are just worse than free games but cost $10-$20.

quartz barn
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Newer ones yes

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Old ones are usually priced between 4 and 8, but thats either viewed as 'why bother' or slop

radiant frigate
white valley
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MAYFLIES

potent echo
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What if you load the assails on a bow and shoot 5 of them at a time...

quartz barn
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Gunker / meleeker 2 pogryn

radiant frigate
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psyker but pointy

quartz barn
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Inb4 they get old ds4, but as an exclusive again

radiant frigate
deft stump
quartz barn
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I just pirate chadgryn

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There are exceptions however, but only 2 so far

deft stump
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RIGHT?

quartz barn
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No

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But theres a lot of nsfw ye

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People just copy paste dlsite lmao

grim inlet
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no worries

solid pond
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so

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lol?

quartz barn
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And?

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Still costs money

deft stump
quartz barn
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I mean you can buy arbi dlc or a nice sandwich for lunch

deft stump
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Uhh...

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A nice sandwich is like $8 for 10+ of them.

quartz barn
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No i mean the bigger ones

tulip kettle
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lol look at karien bragging about how cheap the cost of living is

deft stump
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And most of it is because you actually get good stuff.

quartz barn
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Not 2 slices of white bread with ham and cheese

tulip kettle
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wahhh wahh games are so expensive here

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meanwhile, 10 sandwhiches for the cost of one here

quartz barn
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Karien out here emoting herself smh

deft stump
quartz barn
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I saw that

deft stump
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Instead of using canned stuff.

quartz barn
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Chicken carpaccio from roosters my beloved

tulip kettle
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ham in a can is spam and therefore not ham

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i do not like it sam i am

deft stump
tulip kettle
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true

deft stump
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Instead of spending like $6 on the ham.

radiant frigate
deft stump
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I could spend $2 on canned stuff.

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And have more stuff.

quartz barn
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But $2 less loregryn

deft stump
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$4 less.

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And you don't have to like, half slice of ham per sandwich.

tulip kettle
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thats not a sandwich, thats a sadwich

deft stump
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Or for that money, I can get 5 days of instant.

quartz barn
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5 days???

deft stump
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The cup kind.

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And yes.

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2 cups a day.

fierce crest
deft stump
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Also... I see my 20% chance to win luck is on again.

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47 flips at 20% to win...

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And going.

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Still losing.

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Oh, at 25% to win, it's also going on to 60 flips, all wrong so loss.

marble crater
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Gacha addict

deft stump
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Pifft.

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At 50%, I managed to hit a 22 lose streak.

solid pond
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dlc for other games is like 50-100$ lol

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12$ for arbites is

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nothing really

white sky
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The game costs $30

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Arb is like 1/3rd of the game

wraith sphinx
solid pond
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yea lol

white sky
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My primary complaint is that iirc classes in VT were like

solid pond
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Id increase the price

white sky
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$5 tops

solid pond
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point and laugh

wraith sphinx
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I get the sentiment of believing x thing is overpriced for what it has to offer but it's hard to calibrate such opinions when a part of the complaints is always going to be "give me that for free"

solid pond
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I think something is worth if I can get 1$ per hour out of it

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6$ for VT characters is a steal

wraith sphinx
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Yeah thats the most common mindset

solid pond
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12 for arbites is way more than worth

marble crater
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What game are you playing where a DLC is 100?

solid pond
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destiny

deft stump
white sky
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Thats on you tbh

wraith sphinx
marble crater
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Okay, that's not just one then

deft stump
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Technically, I think Vrising is also expensive DLC.

solid pond
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also yeah DCS or train sim goes into the thousands

white sky
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Tbf DCS and Train Sim are preying on people with like, zero other options

solid pond
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store citizen has NFTs you can buy

wraith sphinx
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Paradox Interactive and Slitherine also notoriously love to rip off players with their DLC spam

marble crater
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That game will never be finished, greatest scam in gaming history

deft stump
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Oh, it's just brand new triple A for all DLCs, excluding base game.

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Went to check Vrising.

white sky
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I think if arb was like $8 I wouldn't care

wraith sphinx
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The arb dlc price is completely fine by me

solid pond
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yea

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if they wanted to put it on sale, cool

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if not

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its honestly whatever

vernal frost
quartz barn
white sky
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Ill take out TW if it gives me a discount

solid pond
white valley
white sky
white valley
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perk trees with way less choice

spice oar
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Vermintide and dark tide skill trees are not comparable

white valley
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Arbitrator has 3 blitzes, 3 abilities, and various different playstyles, an Outcast Engineer in VT2 is always a funny dwarf with a gun

spice oar
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They just aren’t, they are separate things that don’t work in either game

summer prairie
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What about Darktide old trees and current trees, are they comparable

spice oar
white sky
spice oar
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Like I said, they don’t work in the others game

white valley
white sky
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I would also say we are reaching the point of Arb where "the build" is becoming a thing

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Most classes in this game outside psyker have a "the build"

summer prairie
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I don't think so

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arbi has many builds for h40

white valley
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yeah no

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Zealot is the most limited still

white sky
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Yes they are lmfao

white valley
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Veteran has a couple different builds

white sky
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Most vet builds boil down to right side rn ime

white valley
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Ogryn has 3 or so

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Nah Vet can take any keystone

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And any blitz, Vet's issue is abilities atm

white sky
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Can, you dont really see MMF rn tho

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I dont commonly see vets use FF either

white valley
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FF is common in havoc

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and I have a friend who uses MMF with Helbore, it deals absurd damage

white sky
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Your friend is not the vast majority of vets I experience tbf

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Who are like

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Still

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Shout+Plasma+DS+Right Side ime

white valley
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the "majority" doesn't mean havoc competitive

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VB staff is competitive in Havoc but you see way more Inferno

white sky
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Havoc is also the game mode of being denied unless you run the most common "meta" set up ime

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Maybe you have a stack, I do not.

white valley
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I haven't heard of anyone being denied for running a helbore

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it is S tier in Havoc

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Meta even I'd say, but it is harder to use than plasma

white sky
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You want to argue in favor of a $13 dollar dlc that's on you tbh

tulip kettle
white sky
white valley
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I think helbore has legitimate advantages over plasma, chiefly ammo

tulip kettle
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cant quick swap and pop specials

white sky
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I would agree with that

white valley
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one runs out of ammo, the other never does

white sky
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Although

white valley
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and helbore still deals insane damage to armored elites

white sky
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I do think plasma shouldn't even normally have to reload between like "mission breaks" elevators and the like

tulip kettle
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theres a part of the community that doesnt like meta meta because they find the game too easy with meta loadouts

white valley
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And even beyond these weapons, veteran still has other competitive havoc builds

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boltgun for one

tulip kettle
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competetive/viable, maybe

white valley
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and the grenadier build, with shredders and lethal proximity bolt pistol

tulip kettle
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but its still likely to be generally worse or the same

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that build is poop

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you bring that build because other people arent running meta

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if you have a meta psyker and meta zealot its a waste of time

white valley
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that doesn't make the build poop

tulip kettle
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i mean, it does

white valley
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it means it's an option when you don't have flamethrowers

tulip kettle
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its only viable if other people are running off meta stuff

white valley
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huge disagree

tulip kettle
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you bring that with an inferno psyker and your impact is gonna be zero

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really good players can run whatever they like. But the majority of the community wants inferno psyker, book flamer zealot, plasma shout vet, BTL shock arb

white valley
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your impact is zero despite shredders being strong against packs of elites and knocking them down?

tulip kettle
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lol

pallid stump
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think i found my gunker weapon

tulip kettle
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kraks are meta and under that smokes when no bubble psyker

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by the time you threw and detonated 2 shredders everything is already dead

pallid stump
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the las infantry rifle is very fun

tulip kettle
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its objectively pretty poo

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but if you enjoy it thats what matters

pallid stump
tulip kettle
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recon or vraks

pallid stump
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if you say recon-

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yup

tulip kettle
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i mean thats a factual statement

pallid stump
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i know

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i hate that gun because whoever the fuck uses it takes all the ammo

tulip kettle
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if they are wasting ammo maybe

white valley
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once it rotates out, they'll still be good, but not as meta

deft stump
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My VIc is always accidentally full.

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By the time I get to a tin.

pallid stump
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eh ill keep using the infantry gun

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its feels good after the auto mod because i fucking hated clicking over and over, its enough as it is with melee

proper spoke
pallid stump
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i heard one dude got kicked out of havoc because the team thought he was slow

proper spoke
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I like your name. It's probably far too late, but I'm going to steal it

pallid stump
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i mean

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a new class is coming

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we have no idea

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i can only hope

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also

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i fucking hate loner zealots

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mfs just go out running and the team tries to catch up

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so when i get netted then bombed then pox bursted and die instantly kinda sucks

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all due to me not being an expert at dodging

tulip kettle
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skitarii/tech adept is definitely the next class

pallid stump
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who knows

tulip kettle
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GW always does the tie ins with games

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i mean, its obvious

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last time they did marketing for arbitrator

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release arbitrator in multiple 40k games

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this time its mechanicus

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techmarine already confirmed start of new year for space marine 2

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now class announcement for DT

solid pond
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the timing on them is goated if you play both games

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update in nov for Space marine

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update in december for darktide

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update in early 2026 for SM with tech marine

pallid stump
tulip kettle
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thats not a maybe

quartz barn
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Too bad sm2 is going to have the same issue as vt where people will fight over the new class

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Because there cant be 2 of the same on the team

tulip kettle
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i just want to play kerillian dammit!

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stop quickplaying me into missions where she is taken!

solid pond
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people already thinking of an event where you can play multiple tech marines for the duration of the event

quartz barn
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But hey as long as the hard expeditions randoms dont play bulwark im game

solid pond
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why not bulwark?

quartz barn
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No damage

deft stump
quartz barn
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Almost always really bad

solid pond
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come again?

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like, the players do no damage with it?

quartz barn
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Yup

solid pond
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okay

tulip kettle
solid pond
tulip kettle
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but then no quickplay bonus

quartz barn
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Surprisingly common to see them do <8k in total with the other 2 breaking 20k+

solid pond
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almost had a crash out

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bulwark is fucked yeah I dunno how people would do nothing with it

deft stump
quartz barn
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When a good bulwark should be second place in melee, behind assault

solid pond
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then again, there is still people eating every execute in existence because "flashing red enemy"

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no lol

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bulwark is no.1

tulip kettle
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when i miss the emp chest by a tiny bit because no quickplay bonus i is upset

quartz barn
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Nah assault with the new power sword is busted

solid pond
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more damage and debatably better mobility

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shield rush is dumb

quartz barn
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Thats true

solid pond
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then perhaps

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(it works for Thammer and nothing else but works on everything on bulwark)

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because

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??

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game

quartz barn
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Ye the inconsistensies + random unavoidable damage are its main flaws

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Really noticable in the harder expeditions too, like this week with inferno

solid pond
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66% less hp and 1 armour with no armour charges

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the get deleted if the game fucks you

quartz barn
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Lictor onehits you

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Through armor

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No issue if you can just parry the first hit

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But in the sub 10 runs it took me to clear hard i died twice because he jumps on someone else

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So if im in front of them i get no indicator + get clipped regardless of them parrying

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Fun

solid pond
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I was dent slamming an entire group of majoris, got grenaded by my friendly into instantly dying

spark tree
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hey so uh why do the passive brain bursts done with kinetic flayer deal a lot more damage than the active ones

solid pond
solid pond
spark tree
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oh i see

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thanks a lot

solid pond
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well there you go

summer prairie
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Not sure if KF is worth it for warp unbound staff builds, forgot that the game eats your KF if you are at >97% peril. It's still 7-10% damage I guess

weary crane
summer prairie
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you lose cd but dont proc it

weary crane
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Huh

hearty wolf
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POWER SWORD

weary crane
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Is that a bug?

hearty wolf
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I want to use it

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where friends

weary crane
summer prairie
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it goes on cooldown at critical peril and does not proc it yeah

weary crane
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So every time you hit critical peril it resets the timer?

#

But it regens during critical peril?

summer prairie
#

resets if it's off cooldown

rich spindle
#

Maybe not on rotten armor

tulip kettle
hearty wolf
#

Cringe

#

Dye your hair blue lil bro

weary crane
summer prairie
#

with some builds you chain SG and play with WU active all the time

tulip kettle
#

Syllo you simply must time pressing sg with kf coming off cd

summer prairie
#

uhuh

tulip kettle
summer prairie
#

Too hard

tulip kettle
#

Nah you could do it

marble crater
#

There is probably a mod for it

ornate sedge
#

still no new staff

#

🥀

hearty wolf
#

Shing shing shing

#

Why study more law shit when I can study the POWER sword

tulip kettle
#

based

deft stump
quiet inlet
hearty wolf
#

vet 🤔

radiant frigate
#

vet power sword is better anyway

#

spehs mehreens ain't shit

radiant frigate
hearty wolf
#

i don't use it

#

heard it's meh

radiant frigate
#

is it epic like ps6

quiet inlet
#

I like it. Less burst than power sword, but better sustain

languid pine
#

i love it so much

#

i love this fuckass game

image.png
#

id rather eat fucking dogshit than this

#

10 disconnects

radiant frigate
#

please do not ingest dogshit sibling

languid pine
#

im literally fucking aurafarming

hearty wolf
#

do you have an amd card or something

languid pine
#

amd cpu

hearty wolf
#

eh I use an amd cpu

languid pine
#

STOP FAILING

#

TO JOIN

#

SERVER

hearty wolf
#

I only every crash if I do something like press f5 in a loading screen

#

buy new pc

#

that should fix problem

jovial juniper
languid pine
#

OH MY GOD BRO

jovial juniper
#

I am malding because of it

#

10 months

#

For some

#

Mid tier weapon

#

With dogshit blessings

radiant frigate
#

i haven't touched it

#

what's the pool like

languid pine
#

fucking rts ass view

image.png
jovial juniper
# radiant frigate what's the pool like

Cranial Grounding (good)
Energy Leakage (eh)
Heatsink (eh)
Wrath (dogshit)
Decapitator (dogshit)
Counterattack (dogshit)
Energy Transfer (dogshit)
Overload (💀 )

modest perch
#

cranial is only good cus its necessitated by the design of the weapon

radiant frigate
#

where damaj

jovial juniper
#

The extra Weakspot damage of cranial is nice

jovial juniper
radiant frigate
#

oh yeah i suppose it is

#

diet warp rider

#

unstable power rather

#

alright so we just run cranial leakage

#

does it have block on special like relic blade or does it just suck

jovial juniper
#

Same as RB

modest perch
#

cranial leakage sounds like the name of a death metal band

radiant frigate
jovial juniper
#

Also

#

The falchion stays activated for longer than RB

#

But also needs to cool down for longer

#

So you don't want to overheat

#

Meaning that heatsink and overload are pretty fucked

modest perch
#

yea but vets got plasma n grenades

radiant frigate
#

but no plasma grenade

#

why live

modest perch
#

whereas when shoutys melee turns off its so over

buoyant maple
buoyant maple
#

It stays activated longer and cools down faster

jovial juniper
#

Oh so Fatshark lied again

rancid jasper
#

fatshark more like lieshark

#

gotem

white valley
#

Fatshark didn't lie

jovial juniper
#

"Compared to the Relic Blade, the power source is more reliable, leading to a longer activated total time (but at the cost of a longer cool down period)."

white valley
#

Oops

buoyant maple
#

Relic blade cool off is ~12s total

white valley
#

I remembered the reliable part

buoyant maple
#

Falchion is ~9s

jovial juniper
buoyant maple
#

It’s still not good

#

Because it’s 9s of it doing jack shit

jovial juniper
#

Wait are you fr fr rn

#

What the actual fuck

buoyant maple
#

Unlike relic blade where it deals minimal but visible damage

buoyant maple
#

He already wrote out the cooldown time for both

jovial juniper
#

What
The
Actual
Fuck

white valley
#

Relic blade is stronger unpowered than the Falchion

#

But Falchion is on a class that can do other things

#

Although relic blade pairs well with chorus I suppose

jovial juniper
#

The class that can do other things needed another good melee

#

Falchion came out and the class still needs another good melee

#

Nothing ever changes

#

Nothing ever happens

hearty wolf
#

DOOMIUM

white valley
#

I think falchion is decent still

#

Not top tier

#

But decent

jovial juniper
#

I'm mad

#

That we waited 10 months

#

For some this

#

With poor blessings

white valley
#

If anything vet should have power sword be nerfed and lose access to duelling sword

jovial juniper
#

Then you'd play Rashad 24/7

#

If you look at Google maps and see a red dot

#

That's me

#

Angry with Fatshark

#

But it's "fun" so we get to not criticize

#

Because that's definitely not a get out of jail card

#

If it at least had good blessings

weary idol
white valley
#

Isn't shovel decent?

#

It can one-shot auric crushers

jovial juniper
white valley
#

Sure, that is decent

jovial juniper
#

Horde eventually dies

#

Decent is above mid

white valley
#

Shovel is like a B+

deft stump
jovial juniper
white valley
#

It's not a super strong weapon but with certain builds can absolutely do great

#

Duelling sword cannot be the bar we measure melee weapons against

jovial juniper
#

But since it's vet exclusive you gotta measure it in power swords

#

Because Power Sword mogs Dueling Sword

deft stump
#

Is powersword. Only thing it loses is mobility.

weary idol
#

But the folding shovels that suck ass can with thrust iirc

deft stump
#

Because we all know powersword mobility is a trashfire.

deft stump
#

Thrust needed for 1 shot.

solid pond
#

Power fist for vet when

deft stump
jovial juniper
#

That's another thing

#

Calling shovel mid when it has top tier blessing

#

Says a lot about the weapon

white valley
#

Uncanny + the bleed talent

#

Stonks

icy breach
icy breach
jovial juniper
#

That's what a mid tier weapon user would say

sturdy reef
#

I dont think the new class is skitarii anymore

#

FS said the new class is related to the event..

solid pond
#

ogryn 2

rich spindle
#

Didn’t they say no skitarii because the height would mess up map design

jovial juniper
#

You're probably thinking Ratlings

#

Skitts are just red robes

rich spindle
#

Ah

#

Rat sounding name

jovial juniper
#

True

sturdy reef
#

Might actually be a hive ganger

rich spindle
#

That could be cool. What’s the identity

sturdy reef
#

Thats the problem

long wharf
#

a scab gunner that defected

#

no, a mutant that defected

solid pond
#

honestly I'd love something with the ability to grab enemies or something

#

wouldn't work but

#

gib

rich spindle
#

Meth dealer hive ganger that injects teammates

long wharf
#

so a dreg rager

white valley
#

Dark heresy does allow one to make a mutant character

#

Give us mutant with the ability to WOOOOOAAAAAH

solid pond
white valley
#

Lets you charge an enemy and cave their face in

#

Live crusher reaction

long wharf
#

zealot already does that

white valley
#

Zealot does not grab a crusher

long wharf
#

no it does not

weary idol
sturdy reef
#

I hope

long wharf
#

new player class is going to be a nurgle-infested lunchbox

#

on ogryn legs

weary idol
#

honestly this could be a wild time for it to be a Kroot

#

they do be hungry boys

#

And famously mercenaries in setting

sturdy reef
#

Could be a class based on stimms

long wharf
#

I really hope not

sturdy reef
#

Hive gangers are notorious for that

#

And modifying their own weaponry

#

Custom implants

#

Stimms

#

Combi weapons

weary idol
#

Give me this

long wharf
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I'm not James Workshop

#

I don't make the rules

#

Xenos lovers don't understand that WH40K is a Human-centric IP

#

Xenos are there to be killed

#

the entirety of the lore exists as a background and setting for the current state of mankind

#

nothing more.

#

all the other factions exist either as "no choice, gotta kill 'em before they kill us" or as mirrors held up to the hypocricy and tyranny of the Imperium

#

there are no good guys in the galaxy because the Imperium exists

#

and the less bad parts of the Imperium exist to provide a reminder for just how bad the rest is

white valley
#

What how can you say that

long wharf
#

easily

#

it's evident in everything James Workshop does

weary idol
#

I have no idea if this is sarcasm or not

white valley
#

My big chungus space marines are good guys!

long wharf
#

and consistent with lore changes

long wharf
#

look at what GW focuses on for new models and refreshes

white sky
#

Lately?

#

Everything

#

Theres more non Imperium especially non sm model support than ever

white valley
#

Didn't Votann just get a big refresh?

white sky
#

Small range tbh

#

Unless you count them as a squat refresh

long wharf
#

... I'm 100% not being sarcastic, but I am only half serious 🙂

tulip kettle
#

last time it was arb in 2 games at once

#

i bet good money its ad mech related

white sky
#

Has to be imho

sturdy reef
#

I hope so

long wharf
#

ad mech doesn't have any relation to the current event as far as we can tell, though

white sky
#

Im still trying to find the original DT promo material with the techpriest

white sky
long wharf
#

what does that have to do with infested lunchboxes?

#

I'm not saying I don't want something mechanicus, just that it isn't matching up with what's been said

white sky
#

I mean

#

What

#

Class would have anything to do with them?

#

Outside Og who we already have

long wharf
#

that's the million dollar question

#

hence why I said "defecting scab gunner"

weary idol
#

scab gunner getting all the cool big guns that vet players have been begging for

#

it all makes SENSE NOW

white sky
#

Yes, Vet 2 but formerly chaos surely is more likely than a tech priest

weary idol
#

wait no it doesn't

long wharf
#

and then I said "defecting mutant"

royal totem
#

lmao defecting mutant

white valley
#

Where does it say that the class is related to the event?

royal totem
#

what

long wharf
#

I couldn't make it any clearer I was joking without putting "/s" at the end

weary idol
#

they would almost certainly be shot

marble crater
#

What if the new class is psyker 2.0?

long wharf
#

I'd embrace psyker 2.0

weary idol
long wharf
#

that was just a bit of trolling

white sky
white valley
#

There is one psyker ogryn in lore

long wharf
#

wait, I figured it out

white sky
#

Yes, I am aware

marble crater
#

What if ogryn rock, but assail

white valley
#

Big Friendly Assail

long wharf
#

someone in the moebian 21st eats an infected lunchbox, and that clears them of nurgle's influence, but they think they're an ogryn now?

white valley
#

Chucks huge rocks telekinetically, one shots mutants and specials

royal totem
long wharf
#

ugh, I hate that bit of lore so much

#

it's "ogryn porn" in the worst way

white valley
white sky
#

During the psychic awakening an Ogryn named Cassia

#

Got psychically awakened

long wharf
#

Mary Sue Ogryn

white sky
#

Thats kinda what there is to it

white valley
#

Female ogryn psyker, vastly more intelligent than a normal ogryn

plucky flax
white valley
long wharf
#

I think they're more interesting without it

white valley
#

Space Marines? More like fodder for Ogryns

long wharf
#

I also think there are a lot more consequences to human biology scaling up to Ogryn size than lore has delved into

white valley
#

It's 40k fam

white sky
#

Og Biology makes zero sense for what has been delved into, don't think about it too much

white valley
#

Custodes are more problematic from that angle than Ogryns

long wharf
#

nah, Custodes get the "hand-crafted by the Emp" hall pass

white valley
#

At least astartes have an in-world explanation for their biological functions

#

Custodes don't

long wharf
#

they don't?

#

I just gave it

white valley
#

No, Custodes biology is not explained or explored

#

It's handwaved

long wharf
#

the absolute best Biomancer in the history of the galaxy hand-crafts humans into the pinnacle of their form

white valley
#

Sure but how

long wharf
#

guaranteed they have extra organs beyond normal human biology

white valley
#

Biomancy powers usually have a sort of explanation

long wharf
#

without the need for gene-seed because Emps doesn't want them self-propagating

white sky
jovial juniper
white valley
jovial juniper
long wharf
#

act like a god and tell everyone that worships him that he isn't

royal totem
#

hmmm......have to play on european server. sadness

white sky
#

Personally I think trying to explain anything in warhammer is not the move

#

Frigid take tho, im sure

long wharf
#

there's definitely such a thing as trying to explain things too much

white sky
#

Yeah, and for this setting ime too much starts with at all.

long wharf
#

you lose a lot of the fun of the craziness when you try to rationalize it

#

the entire setting is "Rule of Cool"

white valley
#

Which is why they should add death guard marines into darktide so I can kill them

white sky
#

I think we could

#

We're DH PCs

white valley
#

We absolutely could

white sky
#

I've killed marines with DH PCs

long wharf
#

not only do different people have more/less tolerance for randomness, but what a person is willing to suspend disbelief for is different from person to person

#

DemonHost Player Characters?

white valley
#

Plogryns are stronger than CSMs

white sky
weary idol
#

and this helbore lasgun I found

long wharf
#

lore-wise, our rejects would be absolutely turned into paste from a single swing from a plogryn

white sky
#

A lot of DT is lifted from DH imo

long wharf
#

I've never heard of Dark Heresy

#

and everything in DT is easy explained in a single statement:

#

"Players need to have fun"

white sky
long wharf
#

look, in all honesty, I'm not really a massive WH40K lore nerd

white sky
#

They're tabletop rpgs from ye olden days

#

Made by FFG, Fantasy Flight Games

long wharf
#

all the lore I know has been gleaned from playing games and watching The Emperor With a Text-to-Speech Device

white sky
#

D100 Degrees of Success systems, some of my favorites

frail osprey
white sky
long wharf
#

and learning from other people who are lore nerds

white sky
#

Should be the same ish systems used

long wharf
frail osprey
long wharf
#

the announcement trailer was amazing

hearty wolf
#

W acquired

long wharf
#

got me very hyped (I've read nearly all the books)

hearty wolf
#

damage in the bin 😭

fiery stratus
white sky
#

Is that real?

long wharf
#

Bethesda lost me with Starfield

white valley
long wharf
#

I have zero faith in their ability to produce compelling experiences any more

#

I won't care about Elder Scrolls 6 until it releases and reviews come in

patent mango
#

it feels like bethesda doesnt know how to make something actually new

long wharf
#

they certainly haven't needed to with all the Skyrim releases

white sky
#

I think Bethesda got high off their own fumes from Skyrim success tbh

#

I genuinely think they don't know how to recreate that

long wharf
#

all the hype about how Starfield was the space game they always wanted to make

#

ok, got it, you actually suck at making games, good to know now

hearty wolf
# hearty wolf

huh why is my boss damage value different between the top and bottom

long wharf
#

how many captains did you fight?

hearty wolf
#

Twins + 1 captain

long wharf
#

I've noticed sometimes that the scoreboard doesn't capture captain fights as boss damage seemingly randomly

fiery stratus
hearty wolf
#

hmm

gray juniper
#

How’s the game been going yall?

#

What’s going on with tagging? I wanted to tell sit something

solid pond
long wharf
#

that's been established in lore?

solid pond
#

ye

long wharf
#

alright

solid pond
#

there is a fair bit of handwaving from what ive seen due to "emprah made em special" but they're basically the peak he could make a human without adding things to them

#

primarchs and space marines have extra stuff

long wharf
#

so they're cyborgs?

solid pond
#

no

#

just big large men

#

sometimes oiled

long wharf
#

mostly oiled, was my understanding 🙂

#

abs quiver in excitement

white valley
solid pond
#

wdym

white valley
#

As in it is not explicit what they have and don't have

hearty wolf
white valley
#

Even more so due to them being warp entities

hearty wolf
#

another win

#

from like 40 losses in a row to 2 wins

long wharf
#

it's not 100% that they started as warp entities, though

solid pond
#

definitely a few/all with extra hearts

long wharf
#

nobody knows what happened when Emps went to the chaos gods and came back with knowledge on how to make primarchs

solid pond
#

rowboat girlyman talks about losing a heart when hes dying

#

lol

#

talks in his head

#

but

#

same thing

white valley
#

And then there's Magnus

#

He can have as many hearts as he wants

solid pond
#

he's cheating

#

report him

white valley
#

Sanguinius has his wings ofc

long wharf
#

definitely human

#

/s

tulip kettle
#

maybe the real victory was the friends we made along the way

#

34 min ascension riser

royal totem
#

h40?

marble crater
#

Uprising

jovial juniper
#

Tutorial

radiant frigate
#

(sanctic powers)

strong gulch
#

My brain was firing on an adequate number of cylinders, then my brain tanked and my gameplay went bad.

Also somehow managed to do most monster damage even tho I was on trauma and assail with bubble.

white valley
#

Psyker but full on biomancer

#

Kill enemies with your bare fists after turning your skin to living steel

languid fable
white valley
#

Nah if a trauma staff psyker deals the most boss damage their team is awful at it

jovial juniper
#

Renegade_psyker but it is the new class and not a new enemy

marble crater
strong gulch
#

To be fair, there was just one bon. I put a bubble on it and stabbed it.

languid fable
strong gulch
#

none

#

We have a 20% more monster damage node. true

#

but trauma / vb in particular and assail are not monster damage dealers.

languid fable
marble crater
#

I will never provide boss damage as psyker angymorrow

strong gulch
#

I get that.

#

Again trauma and assail with bubble.

#

More speaks to how DS is still a strong melee.

#

No help from SB or SG

radiant frigate
#

we using iron arm up here

marble crater
#

Open hand monk?

white valley
#

Mephiston does that at one point

#

After overcoming the black rage, and with his armor heavily damaged

#

Straight up beats dozens of orks to death with his bare hands, empowered by the warp

radiant frigate
rich spindle
long wharf
#

FGS is good boss damage

long wharf
#

that guy was a legimate badass

#

stunt people have stories working with him about how he was amazingly fast and had to slow himself down for the camera on occassions

#

as well as pull punches to avoid hurting people

#

talking about Donnie Yen

uneven obsidian
#

i dont understand warp ghost. is the -80% passive quelling a debuff to quelling or does that mean it goes faster? im never quite sure with fatshark stats

winged creek
#

so, its the rate your peril passively goes down whilst not quelling

uneven obsidian
#

yeah, right, but does -80% mean the rate is 80% slower or 80% faster?

winged creek
#

slower, try it out in the meat grinder, build up 100 peril stand there wait for it to hit 0, spec into warp ghost do it again, you'll see it go substantially slower w/ warp ghost on

uneven obsidian
#

kk cool thx so its a tradeoff for the extra stam and toughness then

marble crater
#

Warp Ghost has no downsides

uneven obsidian
#

i thought it made your passive quelling slower?

marble crater
#

Yes, but that is a good thing

uneven obsidian
#

not that thats like.. a huge thing, but still just trying to unerstand

#

oh, if youre trying to keep high peril ya

#

sure

winged creek
#

not really a downside a lot of pysker passive scale off high peril, makes maintaining high peril easier

deft stump
uneven obsidian
#

yea yea got it.

#

no not arguing its like a big debuff or something just trying to get what u meant

deft stump
#

It's like ER in a way.

uneven obsidian
#

working on a smite build thats mostly focused on cycling peril not maintaining scalables so probs not what im looking for rn, but ill keep it in mind when i do something else

tulip kettle
uneven obsidian
sleek lynx
#

What blessings for blaze force greatsword?

tulip kettle
#

unstable power and shred or wrath

#

how is that related to you being a filthy smyker?

uneven obsidian
#

some people just enjoy supporting the homies mang

sleek lynx
#

Shit man I’m running smite too idc I like easy mode

tulip kettle
uneven obsidian
#

what is this vile shit haha

jovial juniper
#

Mad funny though

sleek lynx
#

The dump stat for blaze greatsword is warp res yes?

marble crater
#

Yes

sleek lynx
#

Damn

#

Game is never gonna give me one what’s next best

#

I wish they’d remove random rolls

tulip kettle
marble crater
#

It's A LOT better than it was before, compared to then this is actually super easy to get the weapons you want

open iris
sleek lynx
#

I’m not poor I just don’t enjoy sitting at the armory for hours buying garbage rolls

open iris
#

The annoying part is getting mastery up

sleek lynx
tulip kettle
#

its literally a 20% chance to get it

sleek lynx
royal totem
#

Dom.

#

If you do that to me im shooting the burster

tulip kettle
#

are you a smyker? if not you are safe 🙂

royal totem
#

Im not.

sleek lynx
#

I don’t get how y’all can still defend this system. Imo, if there’s RNG involved it’s still garbage

tulip kettle
#

i also asked them politely to stop first

royal totem
marble crater
#

I will play EK smite, just to bait Dom into trying to burster me, just to turn around and kill the burster

tulip kettle
#

that has happened more than once ngl

#

a sacrifice for a worthy cause

royal totem
#

Have you ever delivered one to hexis?