psyker-class

[tulip kettle]

uncanny kills crushers.

[solid pond]

not with that attitude

[ripe obsidian]

TL;DR, the surge staff RMB crit is doing like 25% less damage than it should

[solid pond]

just uncanny the voidstrike ball

[long wharf]

it definitely feels weak

[solid pond]

simple as

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[solid pond]

also if you have to juice into SG to gib crushers im fine with that

[mortal shoal]

Have a basic melee build. Is it better to spam BB on bosses or heavy swings with the greatsword? Sorry, I know I'm a noob

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-george-costanza-seinfeld-gif-5674469

[solid pond]

depends

[tulip kettle]

the only 1 shot on crushers i am ok with is kraks

because they are balanced by availability

[long wharf]

FGS heavy swings can do good boss damage if you consistently hit weakspots

but risky

[patent mango]

"risky"

[solid pond]

especially if new cuz bad

[patent mango]

i think it has the longest range of any melee

[solid pond]

they just said they're new

stop yapping big man

[patent mango]

😨

ok then just use bb probably

[tulip kettle]

no, use FGS and learn

[solid pond]

BB with whatever the charge speed on ult use is called is alot safer

but FGS better to learn in long term

[tulip kettle]

monstrosities are fine to fight really except burgles

[solid pond]

FGS goat weapon

[mortal shoal]

BB takes so long, even with scriers gaze buffs, teammates already have em down... figure sword might be better

[tulip kettle]

especially on their own

[solid pond]

daemonhost

[tulip kettle]

it is better

[solid pond]

[patent mango]

burgles are annoying

[tulip kettle]

is a demonhost a monstrosity?

and yes burgles are annoying

but they love backshots.

[mortal shoal]

Many thanks!!!

[solid pond]

if its not a monstrosity what would it be?

[patent mango]

i have to dodge slide to properly deal with the puke

[marble crater]

Surely it is

[patent mango]

otherwise guh

[long wharf]

of course it is

[royal totem]

Catmirsl likes killing demonhosts

[solid pond]

perhaps

[hearty wolf]

I personally think Chaos Spawns are pretty ass

[ripe obsidian]

Give Voidstrike 150% ADMs on carapace.

[hearty wolf]

Queue Six getting overheaded 19 times in a row

[ripe obsidian]

Chaos spawns are the worst most of the time.

[ripe obsidian]

Dodging is hard.

[tulip kettle]

yeah they are fine if they arent being broken

[patent mango]

isnt the overhead the one u want to loop dodge

[hearty wolf]

In 1v1 they're the most interactive

[tulip kettle]

yes, but as we saw last night

[hearty wolf]

but otherwise you're just looping them trying to find room

[tulip kettle]

sometimes they bug out and chain the overhead 19 times in a row with 0 downtime

[ripe obsidian]

A chaos spawn tossed me into a corner then chained overheads on me repeatedly

[patent mango]

lmao

[kind jay]

are speed stims bugged rn? they last the entire match lmao

[patent mango]

event

[solid pond]

event

[tulip kettle]

its not a bug its the event

[kind jay]

oh

[tulip kettle]

and only in event games

[solid pond]

imagine if reds lasted whole match

maybe they do

[patent mango]

i thought we had the different buff though?

[tulip kettle]

all stims give perm buffs

[kind jay]

i can't read disregard me

[solid pond]

oh

oh my

time to speedrun my work so I can warcrime some auric bosses

[ripe obsidian]

Reading is for the sanctioned psykers. We black ship rejects never learned to read. Well, read minds. But not words on paper.

[solid pond]

I just forget where the thing is to read it after I see it the first time

so I don't go back and read it

[ripe obsidian]

Ignoring the fact that we're protected by plot armor, how powerful is the player Psyker?

And how powerful is Sefoni?

[solid pond]

ive heard they're not too weak, but also not that powerful psyker wise

needing staves is kinda low? but the bubbles I think are kinda a high thing

[marble crater]

All I know is that Sefoni is surely stronger than the player psyker

[solid pond]

pure energy creation IIRC is relatively easy, so the fire and lightning related things are meh

[royal totem]

Sedoni is...somewhat high i think

[solid pond]

sefoni is nuts though

she has admitted to changing the memory of the entire crew on multiple occasions lol

[royal totem]

Alpha or something? Or was it beta?

[solid pond]

I wonder what her purpose is really on the ship though, or if all ships have something similar to her, for training stuff

cuz she's not the astropath

(? might not be the ones on ships)

and I don't think she is creating the Gellar field

[ripe obsidian]

Is Sefoni part of the Trader's crew or the inquisition?

[solid pond]

inquisition apparently

serving grendyl specifically

[ripe obsidian]

So Psyker things

[white valley]

Nah, different strengths

[ripe obsidian]

Isn't Grendyl also hinted to be the Trader's grandfather?

[white valley]

Sefoni is clearly just a telepath specialist, she's probably not very capable in combat

[solid pond]

I think so, in Brahm's mortis dialogue she's talking to her grandfather and thats what I thought too

[white valley]

Not all psykers are good in combat, even if they are "powerful" psychically

[solid pond]

depends what you define as combat

[ripe obsidian]

Wipe someone's mind to make them forget they're fighting

Then stab 'em

[solid pond]

or just wipe their mind

power word vegetable

[white valley]

telepath powers are more fickle afaik

[tulip kettle]

on the scla of psyker we are right near the bottom

[white valley]

as in, you can resist them via force of will

[tulip kettle]

theta level

[solid pond]

if you take darktides setting as lore, which in most part it is, she is capable of rewriting personalities to basically be different people lol

[white valley]

in comparison to something like warpfire, which you can't exactly resist via your willpower

[solid pond]

enough stacks of warpfire on Khorne and he dies too

skill issue

[tulip kettle]

alpha level psykers can destroy planets

[ripe obsidian]

Feeblemind already exists

[solid pond]

we should get a blank as a class

just kills the psyker on mission start

[white valley]

psykers don't die from being near a blank

[solid pond]

depends on the blank

[white valley]

well, sure

depends on the psyker too

but blanks are rare af because even blunts despise them

[solid pond]

and even rarer over that because of the training they then have to go through lol

just hug the daemonhost

[pale prairie]

It’s gonna be skitarii

Or ratling

🤞

[tulip kettle]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Assignment

[white valley]

ratling won't happen

fatshark has said no more characters with a different POV

[pale prairie]

Oh right cause fatshark has never deceived the fanbase

[white valley]

fair point

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-gif-4190581623976304848

[tulip kettle]

our psykers are sub delta level, approximately theta level

and i do think they wnt do ratling

because its impossible to balance for map design when ogryn already exists

[pale prairie]

It’s hope dom

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-eww-yuck-disgusted-nasty-gif-5453708

[tulip kettle]

why would you hope for ratlings

theyre gross and annoying

[solid pond]

useless for melee

[pale prairie]

I dunno cause they would be different

[solid pond]

and are rats

man sized rats dont exist

[pale prairie]

But they speak-talk funny yes yes

[tulip kettle]

unfortunately not

they arent skaven

[pale prairie]

No u

[thorn cedar]

what if its two ratlings, one stacked on top of the other

[solid pond]

they should add skaven to darktide

[thorn cedar]

then you dont gotta change pov

[pale prairie]

Oh shit

Ratlings are halflings?!? TIL

[tulip kettle]

they are indeed

[pale prairie]

That’s fucked up

[tulip kettle]

hairy feet and all

[thorn cedar]

if it were me

[pale prairie]

The empire is built on slurs

[thorn cedar]

the new class would be

a perfect tie in from vermintide

rasknitt himself

[tulip kettle]

if you say cat people i swear to god

[thorn cedar]

after getting smited by the ubersreik five (or four? it doesnt matter) he is transported instantly into the far future

[solid pond]

🤏

[solid pond]

you're an idiot

[pale prairie]

Hmmm yeah I really can’t think of an interesting canon class that would make sense

[thorn cedar]

i just told you, its rasknitt

[tulip kettle]

its skitarii

it fits with the lore of both the universe and the ship

you would think i would be excited

[pale prairie]

I thought they were very specifically deployed

[tulip kettle]

but i know theyre just gonna butcher it, so im not

[thorn cedar]

idk arby landed very fucken solidly

[solid pond]

arbites lol

[thorn cedar]

balance was in question but like, mechanically the class was very sound

[pale prairie]

I see balance as tied to mechanics so I disagree

[solid pond]

to be fair, them doing too much damage is also in character

[thorn cedar]

nah very separate

[pale prairie]

The mechanics were “big numbah”

[tulip kettle]

skitarii are cool because theyre devout followers of the machine cult, that maintain their autonomy but can be taken complete control of by the arch-magos they serve

idk how that would translate into gameplay

[solid pond]

an ult is just giving them aimbot as the magos takes control

[tulip kettle]

that would actually be fitting

[thorn cedar]

every minute there's a 50% chance that a console player takes control

[solid pond]

rock sliding sound.mp3

[tulip kettle]

i just dont see how its not gonna be an amalgamation of other classes

for example executiuoners stance / EO / DD effects

[solid pond]

it can have new things while also having things from other classes

arbites has things from other classes

still does its own thing

[thorn cedar]

if it feels different then im sold, thats all i need tbh

[tulip kettle]

the other thing is, they suck at close combat traditionally

[solid pond]

the

[tulip kettle]

NOW

[solid pond]

fucking

drip

[pale prairie]

This is my exact concern

[tulip kettle]

make it sicarians

and im 100% sold

[pale prairie]

I almost wonder if it should be some kind of full support/healer but there really isn’t a role for that in this game

[solid pond]

what in the damn

[tulip kettle]

torso still human

[pale prairie]

zealot cries more in the corner

[tulip kettle]

its allowed

[tulip kettle]

transonic razor and chordclaw

chordclaws would be fucking cooool

[solid pond]

he just looks like he'd be so fast

[tulip kettle]

that is indeed their thing

they also emit disruptive frequencies

[solid pond]

like, mirrors edge but faster but also more impaling people with your speed rather than parkour

[tulip kettle]

make their enemies blind and deaf and their heads explode and shit

[solid pond]

that'd fit in too

[tulip kettle]

imagine murder spiders with LRAD

[kind jay]

in order to keep game balance he runs on Windows ME

[tulip kettle]

i just changed my mind

i want datasmiths with kastellans

[graceful arch]

Time to grind havoc agian

[pale prairie]

Look what fatshark has done to you

[graceful arch]

i just want rot armor gon

gone*

[solid pond]

I want rotten armour and final toll

ram it in there

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-phrasing-gif-25791366

[restive stag]

inferno pathing is so frustrating

[royal totem]

Rot armor, and final toll. and stims all at once. how about that :3

[white valley]

wdym

[restive stag]

it frustrates me

[royal totem]

why? can't get the talents you want or something?

[restive stag]

ye

[white valley]

how lol

[restive stag]

coz i dont like it?

[royal totem]

what don't you like about it? O.O

[leaden wind]

I’m starting an inferno staff build, in general I’m guessing cloud radius is more important then warp resistance? Both have everything 80 except one is 60 warp and the other is 60 cloud radius.

[restive stag]

feels like pre-rework psyker to path

[royal totem]

everything is more important than warp resistance

[leaden wind]

Bet makes sense

[marble crater]

Which talent can't you get?

[leaden wind]

Quell speed is quick enough as is

[royal totem]

ah. well sadly cuz i can't change the tree, it is what it is and not sure what to tell you 🙁

[restive stag]

i wasn't really asking for help

[hearty wolf]

don't talk about yourself like that :(

[solid pond]

fuck that got me good

[solid pond]

tap quell

[white valley]

Gah, I am really enjoying chainaxe on psyker but pushing poxbursters with it sucks balls

[strong gulch]

Depending on what build, 80 WR can be actively detrimental.

[modest perch]

mine has 1 warp res

[long wharf]

I have a FGS with 30-ish WR

need to craft a FS with dumped WR

[bold flint]

any zappy staff users having trouble with their charge attack getting stuck sometimes

[long wharf]

interacting with rations can interfere with the input logic

[strong gulch]

Ye but on other staves and even melee too.

Was a problem before rashuns event.

Guess event makes it worse.

[bold flint]

happens to me with the tac axe before patch too

[long wharf]

I sometimes get stuck being unable to manually switch to melee via hitting the melee weapon button

quick swap works, but it's not what I'm used to

[ripe obsidian]

You're more important than warp resist! >:(

[ripe obsidian]

I have gotten stuck in a few animations. Revive, block, med station...

[marble crater]

It's because of the event, whenever I block or charge and then destroy rushuns I get stuck

[royal totem]

why thank you xD

[white valley]

Why do force sword specials do nothing to captains

to void shields I mean

[long wharf]

they're a trap

[white valley]

how come chain weapons tear through that shit but force weapons tickle

[long wharf]

don't use the special

[white valley]

I know

[marble crater]

Deimos and Obscurus should, because they are several hits

[white valley]

they don't though, the damage is pathetic

[rough gale]

Because warp not good for armor

[marble crater]

I still use Deimos specials, because it's funny

[royal totem]

chain weapons tear through shields? 😮

[white valley]

yes, fastest void shield deletion in the game

[marble crater]

Reconlas with infernus is also funny to dump into captain shields

[rough gale]

True

[rough gale]

I prefer force greatsword slash slash slash slash slash shield goes bang and then reconlas dump - repeat

[royal totem]

huh i didn't know that.

[solid pond]

can't burn the shield

[rough gale]

Yea

[solid pond]

infernus is not good for shield lol

[rough gale]

Not good but funny

[white valley]

but unfortunately twice now I have been killed by poxbursters because chaxe sucks at pushing

[solid pond]

the range?

cuz im pretty sure the actual push is pretty good

[white valley]

range and it can't double push

weapons like duelling sword, combat blade, and FS can double push

[strong gulch]

I want to like chainaxe, but its mobility feels bad.

I'm glad sprint cancel is fixed, but I still feel sad using.

[marble crater]

Doesn't stop it from being funny

[strong gulch]

That's are skill issue and part "me ni likey".

[sinful peak]

wait is push range different between weapons

[rough gale]

I want to give a try shotgun Psyker. What blessings best and which shotgun?

[white valley]

Ogryns have more push range afaik

[strong gulch]

the dodge away is short enough be risky with bursters

[white valley]

yup

maybe I should use chainsword instead

better pushes, better dodges, and I can slot rev it up I guess

[marble crater]

If you explode the burster you get a nice boost to your dodge range

[solid pond]

power sword can too

lol

[rough gale]

Anyone played shotgun Psyker after the update?

[white valley]

but goddamn does chainaxe feel fun with trauma

[strong gulch]

ye

[white valley]

"Oh a crusher on the floor let me just saw that real quick aaaand he's dead"

[strong gulch]

i like chainaxe with trauma too

[white valley]

It also helps with boss damage since trauma has abysmal dogshit boss damage

[strong gulch]

maybe anticipation with chainaxe

just try to spam dodge and still have a good one left

[white valley]

I'll just try chainsword

it's a bit less carapace damage but trauma doesn't really struggle with that tbh

as in, crushers aren't that threatening

I'm mostly using chaxe to delete mutants, contribute to bosses, especially captains, and occasionally killing an elite straggler

actually, does anyone know how the modifiers on a chain weapon affect the revved attacks?

[thorn cedar]

shredder is the only mod that matters

vis a vis the rev attack

[white valley]

so finesse and pen do fuck all?

[thorn cedar]

but only at 1am and only in the first minute after your body sinks into that restful state where you can feel the sleep coming

[thorn cedar]

actually shit idk ive never been that anal about the breakpoints

i just scream for the emperor and saw a fucker

[white valley]

I'm only asking because if the damage modifier doesn't impact it, maybe I could dump that instead for slightly better mobility

[rigid sky]

Is perfectionist+cruel fortune sensible for vraks 5 now?

[strong gulch]

Ye

Marked target are much easier to get to now.

You can keep stacks when hitting a monster too.

So the two main flavors are perfectionism + cruel fortune or just lingering.

With lower density of valid targets, I tend to float between 9 to 15 DD stacks in damnation. The it jumps quickly in high density.

I am not an amazing meleeker / gunker.

[royal totem]

i keep thinking about playing some psyker casually

but i don't think i'm very good at it

[rigid sky]

On auric event it feels pretty easy to stay consistantly above 25 outside of elevators

uh

above 15

[solid pond]

above 25

[royal totem]

damn. Krags broke game and got to more than 25 stacks 😮

[jovial juniper]

[pallid stump]

lads

whats better for EP bio-loadstone or overpowering souls

for a brain pop build

[strong gulch]

the guaranteed on elite kill one

overpowering souls

[ripe obsidian]

In news unrelated to Darktide, I have hit 700 ELO in chess. This is not a high ELO, but I started at like 400 less than a month ago, so it is a major improvement

[bold flint]

just psyker things

[ripe obsidian]

A real Psyker would just read their opponent's mind and win

[ripe obsidian]

So are all these on-kill buffs us eating souls and taking their power?

Delicious, delicious souls

[strong gulch]

soul rations

[royal totem]

Ayeee congrats

[strong gulch]

congrats

no idea what that means

🎉

[long wharf]

I like to pretend Chess gets scored like Golf, giving me an ELO of 0, a perfect score

[ripe obsidian]

It means I am not good enough to even be a Class E player, but I am on the higher side of the bell curve

https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/16nbgu9/chesscom_rapid_elo_distribution_september_2023/

I am better than median

The trailer says "Praise the Omnissiah" or something like that instead of "For the Emperor"

AdMech pls

[royal totem]

One day we'll see Six with like 1300 elo

[rough gale]

Have anyone played Shotgun Psyker after update?

[thorn cedar]

"My Knight to D4. Hole in one."

[long wharf]

"Knight D6 to side pocket, nothing but net"

"Touchdown, I win"

[rough gale]

Knight my ass

[long wharf]

sounds like Blurnsball

[pallid stump]

question

[thorn cedar]

Unfortunately for you, I tap one green and one blue to cast Baby Yoda's Counterspell at instant speed, returning your Knight to the stack.

[pallid stump]

i take it the death corp of krieg never had a "scryer"

[rough gale]

This!

[pallid stump]

wuh

[long wharf]

You fell into my Sand Trap! Eat three spades and reroll 2 dice

[thorn cedar]

Yahtzee!

[ripe obsidian]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YgeYScYe8wI

[long wharf]

seen it, very funny

[ripe obsidian]

Once I have mechadendrites to help me move faster, and the Blessed Circuitry enhancing my feeble flesh-brain

[royal totem]

Lmaooo

[thorn cedar]

oh that formatted terribly

[long wharf]

it sure did

why would you take such a wide screensnip?

[thorn cedar]

what the fuck

[long wharf]

second verse, same as the first

[thorn cedar]

also mine is just naturally that wide, isnt yours?

[long wharf]

you might need to consult a medical professional

[thorn cedar]

there we go

i swear Paint updated a hotkey at some point and i dont know which

really fucks with me

[long wharf]

paint?

[thorn cedar]

yes

[long wharf]

if you're on windows, you owe it to yourself to download the always free and always awesome Paint.Net

[leaden wind]

Just fully consecrated this staff, what does the little magnifying glass mean on the blessing?

[long wharf]

nothing important now

I think it's a blessing you don't normally have access to

[leaden wind]

Oh ok yea I don’t have lvl 4 blessing unlocked

Never seen that before

[long wharf]

it matters a lot less nowadays

it's an artifact from before we unlocked blessings via masteries

[leaden wind]

For the before times?!?

Wooooaaahhhhh

Also should I just swap that blessing for blaze away? Only lvl 2 tho

[long wharf]

sits in rocking chair on the porch y'see, back in my day, we had to beg Hadron to give us the blessings we wanted

twas real common for a weapon to be permanently bricked and worthless after spending currency to upgrade it

[leaden wind]

Jeez that sounds terrible

[long wharf]

thousand yard stare intensifies

[strong gulch]

Finally rolling T4 surge (it was only T4) on VS with the other BiS blessing and good stats. So you never surrender the weapon and have to live with the magnifying glass.

[long wharf]

when the game released, Hadron's UI said "Crafting Coming Soon"

that's a fact

[leaden wind]

How did you survive such terrible times grandpa?

[long wharf]

Hard times make hard players, we just sucked it up, picked ourselves up by our bootstraps, and played through the pain

[strong gulch]

By being broke and so very not well adjusted.

[long wharf]

you youngin's have no idea just how good you have it now smokes pipe

[strong gulch]

terrible barrage
terrible barrage
terrible barrage
transfer peril
terrible barrage
terrible barrage

AHHHHHHH

RUN N GUN

[long wharf]

ah, the pseudo-excitement watching the clock for when shops rolled over, especially Sour Milks

[strong gulch]

yes

[long wharf]

I used to check the shop inventories on my phone

just to make sure I wasn't missing out on a unicorn

in all seriousness, Sour Milk is absolutely pointless

he needs to be a source of free Aquilas

gimme 5 Aquilas per contract, I'll make damn sure I do it every week on every character

[strong gulch]

Melk is only good for curios or if you have a new character.

[long wharf]

yeah, he is good for curios

[rain wren]

Cheerios

[long wharf]

those too

[strong gulch]

we should just be able to buy curios like weapons tho

[long wharf]

we should be able to craft curios

[leaden wind]

Yea when I first started my psyker build I got my EK from him and that was it lol

[rain wren]

I wish

[strong gulch]

crafting goes into buying

[long wharf]

enough with this garbage, the main stat on a curio is a blessing

so, let us just craft what we want already

[strong gulch]

if we are going with the same way weapons worth.

work

[rain wren]

I end up finding the curios in the shit shop before melk

[strong gulch]

I'd prefer to just craft whatever level of cruio. If I want +1 stam or 21 health. Just let me.

[sleek lynx]

Hey psyker players. Can one of y’all provide me with the strongest, most effortless to play build? Preferably with a variant that I can use for relatively pain free leveling. I’ve tried homebrewing my own builds in this game but they’ve kinda sucked so I would like to just use the meta please.

[long wharf]

yep

meta != effortless

[rain wren]

You know they should really upgrade melk and add cosmetics

[long wharf]

unless you're throwing assail shards on heresy-, nothing the psyker does well is "effortless"

[rancid jasper]

purgatus builds can get close.

[strong gulch]

Leveling vs endgame meta are two different things.

Leveling is mostly assail.

Max level for ease is mostly inferno.

[rain wren]

So I can use the infinite tokens I get from him

[sleek lynx]

Can I have the perk setups for both please? And what weapons and blessings?

[long wharf]

you want effortless?

all Smite all day

[sleek lynx]

Ok what perks for that?

And weapons?

[strong gulch]

Check the build bonaza in the pins.

One of the first builds is for newer players.

Then it's broken into sections with recommended builds for each type.

Please know that staves scale pretty hard and are kinda shit without high investment.

As a warning. If you smite constantly, you're likely to get people lobby dodging you or even blocking you.

[rain wren]

Smite away

Lol

[sleek lynx]

Really? When I do auric with my vet I love smite users

They keep melee users off of me while I snipe the range guys for them

[strong gulch]

That's fine to like or appreciate having it on the team.

Most do not.

Most who post on forums or here.

at least

[restive stag]

i appreciate skilled usage of smite

[strong gulch]

ye

[sleek lynx]

Well those people that post on forums or discord communities are a tiny minority of a community at large

[strong gulch]

constant uneneding use of it I do not like at all

[restive stag]

yup, same

[sleek lynx]

Well if smite spam makes runs go as smoothly as my shout spam plasma vet I’m gonna use it

[strong gulch]

using smite does not automatically mean smyker

[ripe obsidian]

Did you watch the video?

[thorn cedar]

yea

[strong gulch]

The problem is constantly using it to where others don't get to play the game.

Keeping enemies spread out.

Clustering them in bad positions.

The smyker not learning how to dodge at all.

[restive stag]

yeah, keeping enemies spread, disallowing things like dodge passives to be procced, not doing anything against big targets damage wise
it leads to very poor situations where things are handled with extremely inefficiency if at all

[sleek lynx]

Well if it’s suboptimal I won’t do it

I can learn an optimal playstyle

[restive stag]

that's good ye

[sleek lynx]

I learned melee Ogryn as a ranged vet this shouldn’t be too hard

Compared to that shit

[digital elbow]

is the dump stat on inferno staff damage like how it is with the zealot flamethrower?

[verbal thistle]

it is warp res for multiple reasons

[restive stag]

ye

[strong gulch]

no

it's warp resist

[digital elbow]

oh then what’s the one psyker staff that doesn’t have warp res as dump, if any

[verbal thistle]

voidSTRIKE

which is blast radius

[restive stag]

voidstrike ye

[verbal thistle]

only warp weapon that is non warp res dump

[sleek lynx]

I’ve heard inferno staff is arguably the strongest thing in the game. Is that true?

[verbal thistle]

it scales into density

since the game scales difficulty with hp and amount of enemies

its the best weapon the higher the difficulty

[sleek lynx]

Is it better overall than plasma gun?

Also mastery levels are by account and not character??? Fuck yea I have dueling sword maxed on psyker already lol

[verbal thistle]

they different things, you cant compare them

plasma is sustained ranged dps, better single target then horde clear

firestaff is sustained close range horde clear

[verbal thistle]

account

[sleek lynx]

Plasma does horde clear pretty well too

[long wharf]

no it doesn't

[sleek lynx]

That makes me happy. Maybe I can suffer through leveling a zealot since I’ll have maxed bolter

[sleek lynx]

It’s not amazing for it but better than a lot of things

[ornate hamlet]

I run all variations of staffs on my psyker, and I have to say that inferno is without a doubt the most powerful. IMO

Personally, I like trauma staff for explosion animations and watching body parts fly everywhere.

But inferno will just burn down anything. Even things like scab rager patrols become easier to handle with it.

Especially if you lean into the soul blaze build with it

[sleek lynx]

Well if inferno is the best that will be my end goal to work towards

[restive stag]

it takes some time but the only thing it really won't handle under any circumstances is crushers

[ornate hamlet]

Very true. It will stil soften them up a bit

[sleek lynx]

That’s what the veteran teammate is for lol

[restive stag]

although you have to not die in the time it takes to kill stuff anyways so

[ornate hamlet]

You can also take brain burst and kinetic flayer with inferno staff to handle any ranged enemies or crushers. Keeps you safe out of melee

[sleek lynx]

Or actually I could just take dueling sword for that

I do have it maxed already from vet lol

[ornate hamlet]

That too, force great sword works wonders as well

[restive stag]

deimos can also work

s'what i run, deflector is a great boon to have when i gut my survivability for the sake of big fire

[sleek lynx]

I would kinda prefer to use a class’ signature weapons in a build. Like I run plasma+shovel on vet so force greatsword+inferno staff sounds neat

Plus I’ve seen force greatsword has the big Moonlight greatsword wave which I like

[strong gulch]

DS used to be psyker only.

DS parry generates peril on psyker.

so there is something unique to it at least

[royal totem]

so today my second arb hit 30

[ornate hamlet]

I run scriers gaze assail build with the FGS (potato’s build) and it’s just scary how much you can kill and how fast.

[sleek lynx]

I wish weapons were also account wide so I could just mule my groll dueling sword from my vet

[strong gulch]

FGS and inferno are fine together but of the melees that are good or better against crusher, it has the most overlap.

Melee on inferno need to be decent against crushers and preferably have good mobility and access to uncanny strike. FGS does not meet all of those. It's still fine tho.

[sleek lynx]

Guess I can just make a separate build around the greatsword

[weary idol]

mastery and resources are

just upgrade a dueling sword to max level

[sleek lynx]

How’s the normal force sword?

[weary idol]

arguably better than dueling sword in a lot of ways

you don't get the privileged dodge profile, but you get better utility blessings, and better damage blessings

[strong gulch]

Obscurus is good
deimos is good
illisi needs a buff (is also horde clear and not good against crushers)

[royal totem]

it depends how you're using it and against what. that's all.

[sleek lynx]

I don’t mind not having the super far dodges. On vet I ended up preferring a different weapon to dueling sword too

[pallid stump]

fellas would you say these skills are mandatory on psyker?

just curious

[strong gulch]

not battle med

[pallid stump]

hmm

why not?

[strong gulch]

depending on the build, PC is dropable

[pallid stump]

i am using an inferno staff so

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on the build.

[strong gulch]

You already have better quelling talents or peril mitigation

[ripe obsidian]

Battle Meditation is never mandatory

[pallid stump]

i see

[royal totem]

isn't ER better than BM? not 100% sure though

[ripe obsidian]

Battle Meditation is gambling. It makes it hard to keep peril at a good place.

[pallid stump]

well i dont have enough points to get EP and WG so

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[strong gulch]

If you have a spare point, you probably have something better to take.

[royal totem]

i really like quietude these days

[strong gulch]

talents depend on weapons

[pallid stump]

not sure myself on what to get here

[strong gulch]

also plenty of builds in the builds pin

[pallid stump]

i get for the inferno staff the soulblaze perks

[pallid stump]

true but i do like to figure some stuff on my own

[strong gulch]

with reasons why things are taken for that build

[pallid stump]

i use the pinned builds in some cases

[strong gulch]

depends on weapons and your goal

I'm not saying to copy the builds and not think about choices.

I'm more saying there are reasons listed they were listed.

also what talents do

more detailed explanations about talents in the kuli guid

guide

[ripe obsidian]

Is why I have a template in the pin!

To help you customize

[sleek lynx]

Does inferno staff not work well with smite? None of the builds in the pinned guide use it over the brain burst

[strong gulch]

too much overlap

[sleek lynx]

Both close range horde clear I take it

[royal totem]

my personal opinion is smite objectively doesn't make any build better.

[strong gulch]

Inferno and smite are both midrange and don't deal with crushers well.

BB + KF gives range and helps snowball SB with PC, wildfire, and shriek that also feed IFR (in fire reborn) and souldrinker.

also conrats on red name

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno LMB also staggers anything smaller than an Ogryn

[strong gulch]

and rmb can supress shooters

[ripe obsidian]

Doesn't LMB do that as well?

[strong gulch]

not shotgunners tho

[ripe obsidian]

I would need to check

[strong gulch]

reapers

[royal totem]

are shotgunners immune to suppress or something?

[strong gulch]

not sure exactly what happens

but they will gun you down with inferno RMB

They either shoot you before a threshold is met or RMB inferno just can not do that on shotgunners well

[pallid stump]

@ripe obsidian let me ask you something if possible, with voidstrike staff you normally take cleave based on peril, is it to help horde clear with melee?

[restive stag]

the only two i take in 100% of my builds are mettle and pt

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike has 10 base cleave on RMB

Is quite bad

[pallid stump]

oh, gotcha

[ripe obsidian]

It also boosts Assail significantly

And melee

[pallid stump]

also, is it recomended i take true aim off, to also get warp ghost or not?

well since you mentioned assail i think i get why you have it now

i forgot assail was there lol

[ripe obsidian]

True Aim feels more necessary to me on VS, since Surge procs are a lot of your damage

[restive stag]

yeah i would agree

[pallid stump]

gotcha

is there any way to switch EP for something else? the -30% toughness replenished is scary for me?

or is it not that bad?

[ripe obsidian]

You can drop it if you want. It's helpful but not necessary

The toughness loss isn't too bad imo

[restive stag]

i feel it but i don't eel it so much i feel like my survivability is gutted

[pallid stump]

ill give it a try once i can

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike gets tons of toughness from DD, too

[pallid stump]

ah gotcha

[ripe obsidian]

So mettle, souldrinker, soulstealer, DD...

[pallid stump]

understood

now i just wonder what weapons to use with gun psyker

[prime elk]

recon, vraks, SAP are common picks

agri is good too

and DB can work as well

[deft stump]

I'm more surprised ppl can aim the vraks.

[prime elk]

am i the only one that finds vraks recoil ok?

lol

it's like purely vertical

[deft stump]

This is inf auto, right?

[modest perch]

shredder. trust me bro

[prime elk]

yeah

[prime elk]

unironically a good option

[modest perch]

yea the one that still has columnus in the description

[leaden wind]

I’ve done it folks, rank 30 psyker. Now, I can finally have fun

[deft stump]

On a controller, I keep overcompensating for it or it misses everything in long range.

[prime elk]

oh controller

that's fair then

[deft stump]

And exe stance did not help.

[tulip kettle]

Yeah it has poor accuracy and spread anyway

[prime elk]

ES makes vraks much easier to use

[deft stump]

ES.

[tulip kettle]

So pulling down doesn't help at longer ranges

[prime elk]

but in general it's def more of a cqc tool

[tulip kettle]

Up close bossdeleter3000

[deft stump]

Heh.

Boss reaches a certain point, damage triples.

Can't hit bomber half the map away even with exestance.

[cloud ridge]

what mk for the greatsword?

[deft stump]

Both good.

Mk6 a tiny bit better.

Easier to use the strongest attack so better dps.

But is tiny enough, doesn't matter.

[royal totem]

🤔

[deft stump]

H2.

[royal totem]

ah

[cloud ridge]

ill try the h20 thank you

[deft stump]

H1 is no slouch as well.

Just is overhead so may be more annoying to hit certain things.

[cloud ridge]

yeah im having problem with ratlings

[tulip kettle]

H2 means the second heavy, the stab. Its extremely powerful and chains easily, unlike the stab on the MK8

wuhhh

[cloud ridge]

i think kruber keeps messing with me idk

[deft stump]

Also think there's gonna be inf vets till it changes to angy oggies again.

I see why ppl angy no ammo cos of ppl grabbing all the ammo.

[solid pond]

isn't the current thing increasing ammo?

I had like 1.1k rounds in a las pistol

lol

[deft stump]

Yes, but 90% recon users out, and they grab all the tins.

[solid pond]

its auric

[deft stump]

Even at white.

I saw some zealot in a run hit red.

They still refused to give a tin to said zealot.

[rain wren]

Lol now instead of stim hogging it's ammo?

[solid pond]

even I was gremlining some ammo because I have been awake a little too long and there was still bags and tins sitting everywhere

auric just force feeds you ammo

[deft stump]

I just ping them in hopes they can gas to me to take first.

[rain wren]

How is the difficulty now without the angry ogryns?

[solid pond]

good with either modifier change honestly

been fun

[deft stump]

Vraks, can still survive and VIc is just hilariously ammo effi.

[pallid stump]

DB?!?!?

im in

problem is ammo...

[royal totem]

a lot easier than angy oggys imo

[deft stump]

I just magdump bosses again.

[rain wren]

I found the ogryn one really fun made me feel like a hackie sack

[royal totem]

the oggys was fine. i didn't enjoy the 7 mutants

[deft stump]

Only reason is harder is cos inferno on some maps is budget lights out.

I only see through exe stance.

[rain wren]

Lol whole match I was going wee. Army of mutants throwing me

[deft stump]

Oggies is... I saw 14 crushers on heresy.

At once.

[rain wren]

Oh yeah they did spawn the mutants and crushers like horde

[deft stump]

I was trying to solo, 14 crushers. Then csptain, then BoN shows up and like, WTFF is this?

[royal totem]

Karien

it's budget havoc

[rain wren]

On damnation they never stopped spawning I was left alive plenty of times and had to fight through them to go to rescue. Felt like everytime I killed one 3 popped in it's place

[deft stump]

Nu. I duo'd and basically solo'd sub H5 before.

Somehow, this is worse.

Spawnrate wise.

[rain wren]

Oh worse than ogryn?

[deft stump]

No, angy oggy mod.

Is worse than sub-10 havoc.

Heck worse than up to 14~.

And talking only heresy diff.

[rain wren]

Oh yes the angry ogryns were spawning a lot even the lower difficulties felt like the original auric Maelstrom was easier

[royal totem]

i would actually say

it's worse than havoc 20

[deft stump]

Would agree, tbh.

I had a few tries at soloing the angy oggy mod.

[royal totem]

but it does depend a bit on exactly which havoc 20 lul. but havoc 20 doesn't send me 7 fucking mutants in a train

[deft stump]

I think inferno might be easier to try solo.

[royal totem]

Karien is becoming a soloer? 😮

[deft stump]

If I weren't shade blind and can barely make out the map outside of exe stance.

[deft stump]

I just wanna play low ping but ded server.

[royal totem]

also, i remember the havoc 4 where Karien had to desperately try to keep me from dying

[deft stump]

You know 3 ping to 300 ping is a massive diff.

[royal totem]

i was tired so every single trapper net hit me

[deft stump]

I go from being able to chain mutie headstabs to needing half a room of space just to barely dodge one.

[tulip kettle]

is going well

[deft stump]

High ping pubs just feel awful.

Nobody watches your back and 300 ping makes things harder.

[royal totem]

i rely on Karien to free me from nets :3

[tulip kettle]

random mid join in the screenshot

we diealmost immediately after when captain bug downs me

[deft stump]

They won't even shoot a fire bomber when tagged or highlighted by ETP exe stance.

[tulip kettle]

awesome game

[deft stump]

And fighting vraks recoil and 300 ping gamble on shots hitting sucks.

And tell me, how many people want to play 200+ ping?

[royal totem]

nobody lmao

[potent echo]

Should play Asia servers and roll the dice with the pubs here

[deft stump]

There are no pubs at 1-2AM.

Why do you think I get to SOLO in a public game?

I don't mod, remember?

All those solos are because NOBODY was playing on the APAC Central server.

Other than me.

[royal totem]

let's see what my ping would be on that server

[deft stump]

And yes, they are LIVE missions. It's just dead server.

[royal totem]

Asia and pacific center?

[deft stump]

Yeah.

[royal totem]

201 ping for me

[deft stump]

See, 200+.

I know cos Chaos said 240.

[royal totem]

aye

i should try a game there someday just to see what happens

[deft stump]

Just predodge stuff.

All I can say.

[royal totem]

also, i have a new trick to stop myself from having to clutch in damnation

it's called "stop my teammates from getting themselves killed"

[deft stump]

You mean, babysit them.

[willow kernel]

wheres the fun in that? aura farm while they get bonked by a crusher

[royal totem]

I dun like clutching

[deft stump]

Neither do I.

[royal totem]

Yeah. Its easier as arb with shock mine and BtL

[deft stump]

I do it because I have to try at times.

[deft stump]

I have only played event as a vet.

Recon and Vraks vet.

[royal totem]

I pretty much only arb now

Though...with 3 stam curios

[deft stump]

I just toughness spam because shooters are somehow always scary.

By that, I mean a horde of them and my team is in rescue.

[tulip kettle]

me "babysitting" the smyker

lvl 900, they should know better

[deft stump]

Better than to smyke?

[tulip kettle]

indeed. i did also ask them nicely to stop first

[willow kernel]

chat what is smyking

[tulip kettle]

what that guy is doing

just pressing smite the whole game

[deft stump]

I mean, if you just smite a crusher blob, sure, I guess. But that was smite as a primary.

[willow kernel]

roleplaying as emperor palpatine

[potent echo]

Weekday 😔

[deft stump]

I know. But I just wanted to play sub 50 ping. That's APAC Central or HK. Both were dead.

[royal totem]

i don't encourage playing 3 stam curios. and it doesn't offer that much benefit but ya know. shooters ARE scary

it only really takes like 1 or a few to break my toughness ._.

[deft stump]

I know, and being forced to clutch means...

[royal totem]

enough mini-gunners (the small little guys that pew pew and can melee) to break my toughness

i know ._. clutching can be scary

[deft stump]

For some, is easily in their nature... For others, ramping panic sets in.

[royal totem]

i think it depends on the scenario

if there's a bunch of bombers and tox gas i can panic too ._.

or multiple bosses etc

[willow kernel]

multiple bosses is so daunting to me idk why

their aura scares me

[royal totem]

also depends which bosses lmao

burgles are actually pretty annoying

[willow kernel]

getting vomited on by a mega slug isnt fun

[ornate hamlet]

Worst for me are spawns….their multiple grabs and tossing people around can ruin a run pretty quick if you get caught in a really bad spot where you have no room to kite

[restive stag]

burgles when i activate the gay baby jail (bubble)

[ornate hamlet]

I don’t mind burgles…they’re more irritating than deadly I find.

[royal totem]

when you have to solo burgles though to not get a ton of corruption have to kite it long distances

i mentioned earlier i'm an arbites so i have no bubble

[kind jay]

waiting for new class to have a talent tree thats so good that all 5 current classes need a re-re-rework

[royal totem]

can't wait

LOL

[willow kernel]

new class is actually just the beast of nurgle

[royal totem]

idk what the hell i'd want out of a new class though

i guess a class that can set up like turrets or something would be cool

[tulip kettle]

datasmith with kastelan

[royal totem]

ult makes them stationary with a powerful canon for a bit. idk i'm just spouting nonsense really

[strong gulch]

parry bullet

[willow kernel]

torbjorn overwatch

[sleek lynx]

Which force sword pattern did y’all say was best again?

[strong gulch]

For inferno, deimos or obscurus.

Deimos is more simple and has more CC.

Obscurus can be more aggressive but has less CC. Is less simple to use.

[tulip kettle]

robots from SPAAACCEEE

[sleek lynx]

Got a groll deimos one to start before I can try the others which is nice

[tulip kettle]

warp resist is dump

carapace and unyielding

uncanny and either deflector or superiority

[sleek lynx]

Oh I got a 60 mobility one. Keep rolling ig?

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[sleek lynx]

I’ve got plenty of money

[royal totem]

i'm poor in this game

less than 1 mill dockets

[tulip kettle]

im also poor

not even 25 mil dockets smh

[sleek lynx]

Are there any recommended combos to use?

[tulip kettle]

spam light for hordes

[royal totem]

uh ........huh

[royal totem]

you have more than 14 times my dockets

[tulip kettle]

light 1 - H2 for armour

[sleek lynx]

What about after charging it? Just use the normal attack?

[tulip kettle]

never charge it

ever

[sleek lynx]

Huh

Odd

[royal totem]

but charging it makes it look cool

[tulip kettle]

not odd if you understand the mechanics

[sleek lynx]

I’m just used to power sword

[tulip kettle]

the only reason to charge it is to build peril, in which case you quick swap to ranged and back

the main thing with deimos

[craggy patrol]

is there a summary for the skill tree change or do I actually need to read it

[tulip kettle]

is its good vs crushers with light 1 - heavy 2 loop

and you can "push attack" with it to stagger everything except bosses and gain a stack of uncanny strike

which interacts with your soulblaze DoT

[ripe obsidian]

I AM FREE

OF ASCENSION RISER

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/a23-gif-5165236331565184779

hells yeah brother

[sleek lynx]

The stagger on the push attack and the heavies is pretty nice

[tulip kettle]

its very good.

[craggy patrol]

is there a diff for the skill tree

[tulip kettle]

erm, kind of

[craggy patrol]

why do I have to mouse over nodes

[royal totem]

oh. Six was playing ascension riser? 😮

[craggy patrol]

I CAN'T REMEMBER

[tulip kettle]

souldrinker easier to get

[ripe obsidian]

I GOT OUT

[tulip kettle]

nice

i got a nice few 40 wins today too

[sleek lynx]

Man I wish it would show those stats without mods

[royal totem]

congrats :3

[strong gulch]

Because I wasn't there to muck em up.

[craggy patrol]

why is this allowed but I got banned for using autoblock

it's the same

[tulip kettle]

none with chaos and syllo though

played with chaos and syllo and we lost 6 in a row

won 2 in a row directly before and 1 directly after with randoms

[ripe obsidian]

I am the crusheriest

[tulip kettle]

sometimes is just rng

lol, what?

[royal totem]

clearly i need Six to carry me lmao

[tulip kettle]

autoblock?

as in, it automatically blocks attacks for you?

[craggy patrol]

you can just send packets that say you blocked every attack

[tulip kettle]

because thats obviously cheating

lol

gtfo dude

[craggy patrol]

you don't even need to sync gamestate or animation, the server just trusts you

[tulip kettle]

cool

its a non competetive pve game

cheating is for literal losers

[craggy patrol]

darktide uses gpl code that they changed without honoring the license so its ok

[royal totem]

........................ shouldn't it be obvious why you got banned for that?

[tulip kettle]

nobody cares

and we do a little blocking

[swift stag]

i mean I rather have cheaters in a PvE game than a PvP xD but as the other guy said gimmie stats make it a toggle

[sturdy reef]

scoreboard is not autoblock

[tulip kettle]

id rather people didnt cheat at all

but i at least understand why people cheat in competetive fps and stuff

in a pve game that you are playing solely for the challenge to yourself?

literal loser

[swift stag]

true but i've heard plenty of saying its modding so same thing

[tulip kettle]

modding is allowed and supported

[ripe obsidian]

next mission is purple + rot mercantile. Omnissiah save me

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/vniC.gif

[swift stag]

its not supported as much as it is tolerated.

[tulip kettle]

honestly easy

mercantile easiest map in rotation

[ripe obsidian]

rot + purple

is gonna be rough

[tulip kettle]

meh

wanna game?

[ripe obsidian]

just started one

[tulip kettle]

godspeed sir

[royal totem]

smh. says we can h40 and is busy in games lmao. i'm not actually offended though so no worries.

[tulip kettle]

if you want to do havoc nemui i will join yours

[strong gulch]

i can tag along

feeling under the weather, so my gameplay might be extra sus

[royal totem]

nah im trying to relax and get some sleep in. actually need to do some work tomorrow

and uhh......... sigh.........work

[brazen compass]

Join the club

60+ hours a week, no free time

[deft stump]

I just panic when I see more than 3 crushers already.

[royal totem]

yeah.......fair enough 🙁

as an arb i just BtL crushers

@strong gulch i'm gonna play sometime over the weekend or monday though if you're available when i'm playing i'll pick you up lol

[plucky flax]

The map was really hard though

[rain wren]

It's ok invite an arbite we can tank an army of them

Add in a daemonhost and it will be a fiesta

[royal totem]

Karien is just ......on a diff server lmao.

Karien only goes to Europe or NA west when she's carrying people :3

[rain wren]

Oh then good luck and may the Lex guide you

What nobody play arbite there?

[deft stump]

More like, it's me and 3 bots.

[rain wren]

Ouch

[deft stump]

Uprising and malice, sure... Heresy, bots start to do little.

[rain wren]

I mean sometimes the bots are better than actual people

[deft stump]

I know.

[rain wren]

Lol they will literally die to pick you up

[deft stump]

Not really, sometimes they keep trying to get to the shooter/gunner/reaper horde to hit them.

[languid pine]

sometimes the bots are better frontliners

[deft stump]

And leave you netted till wipe.

[deft stump]

That's gambly.

[languid pine]

i wish i had the clip where

[deft stump]

I have seen them tank DHs forever...

[languid pine]

i watched as a bot held 3 crushers 2 bulwarks

1 horde

[deft stump]

And I have seen them die in a fraction of a sec.

[languid pine]

but i clipped it too late

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ljWb2lFsA5NrJHECO?invite=cr-MSxJZVksMTY2NTU4MTA&v=30

[deft stump]

Honestly, if they gave bots at least scaled weapons...

Just give them maxed out weapons.

[tulip kettle]

the bots have hardcoded stagger on their blocks

they can stagger blue ragers by pushing them

[strong gulch]

wtf

[rain wren]

That is true

They like an op arbite at times

Then other times you're like what the hell you are doing

[deft stump]

Why did you three run into the burster I just pushed?

WHY?

[rain wren]

Yes lol

Or like moths to a flamer

[deft stump]

You mean... Moths to that firebomber pit.

.-.

All three went down to the same pit.

[rain wren]

Lol

[deft stump]

One literally ran into it from where I was.

.-.

[tulip kettle]

twas, and i also played like poop

performance anxiety

[strong gulch]

gets me every time

[deft stump]

Just always be bad, is easy. Nobody will expect anything when you do somehow clutch, yes.

[tulip kettle]

i generally like oubliette, but a bunch of the sections are pretty hard without really strong cohesion

[deft stump]

You mean, at the start even.

[tulip kettle]

and i do this thing where i dodge into mutants that are charging past me WAY TOO OFTEN

really need to work on it

[tulip kettle]

yeah to be fair nearly every section except the first event is hard

[rain wren]

I mean sounds like you wanted a hug

[ripe obsidian]

got mostly through, then the team got split by a ton of crushers. I killed a few, then missed a dodge

[tulip kettle]

ooooof

[deft stump]

The finale capt is literally a joke compared to everything else.

[tulip kettle]

once you get into the button room its like, ok we won

[plucky flax]

Captain aggro switch got dom moment

[tulip kettle]

the moment i turned around

at least now i know "what"

also guess what me saying "I DO THIS TOO MUCH" is in reference to -.-

[plucky flax]

Rot stim moment

We output a lot of damage but things just don't die.

And there's too many things.

[rain wren]

Oof

[royal totem]

🙁

[plucky flax]

We also just sucked.

No karien

[rain wren]

Lol

[tulip kettle]

notice in that clip

i shriek at the crusher

it doesnt care and splats me anyway

[azure parcel]

When surrounded by moebian groaners and using a voidblast staff, how do I ensure I don't get hit AT ALL

Rapid charged attacks at my feet?

[patent jacinth]

Aim down

[azure parcel]

Like, slightly charged and release?

[patent jacinth]

Or just dodge really hard

Or, best yet

Swap to melee

[azure parcel]

Yeah but then I take ages to kill them

(Using mk5 DS)

[rain wren]

Switch to cleave weapon

[azure parcel]

Illisi? Force GS?

[rain wren]

Yes force gs

I love it

In fact I rarely use staff anymore now

[azure parcel]

I really enjoy the versatility of Voidblast, been playing it almost exclusively so I get better at it

[patent jacinth]

Voidblast is the only way I can tolerate left tree

[rain wren]

Only when it's the high hp ones do I pull out staff or long range enemies I want dead

[deft stump]

Wot, I offered to help derank.

[plucky flax]

No thanks dom's rank is already low enough.

[tulip kettle]

im back to 34

soooon

[royal totem]

I thought Karien increases win rate

[tulip kettle]

factual

[rain wren]

Oh and also I mess with the melee stuff on the right side of the top of the tree and use scrier to enhance my damage

[royal totem]

I just use inferno staff

I like setting things on fire

🔥

[tulip kettle]

i always have fun playing with you boys even if i am a bit of a liability