psyker-class

[hearty wolf]

The smell from all the rot, plague and sewage was just replaced purely by the smell of the electricity in the air and copious amounts of blood

[zealous wing]

not cooked flesh? interesting

[white valley]

Fatshark needs to give Illisi power cycler

[hearty wolf]

Just give Deimos real lights

That would be the best weapon in the game

[zealous wing]

my gunker FEELS complete now

[white valley]

That looks rad

[hearty wolf]

That's actually pretty sick

[zealous wing]

:D

[white valley]

Grizzled

[zealous wing]

im so happy that i found a torso piece that works better than the MM torso

MM torso makes everything else look skinny, and hoping for chunky pants on a psyker is hella copium

[white valley]

I want a force sword mark that works like relic blade/power falchion but with peril

Activate to empower but build up peril

[zealous wing]

could make it an FGS mark, FGS only has two, and having it replace the warp slash would make it a heavy consideration on, horde clear/wall pen? or, more damage per swing

[white valley]

Aye that could work too

Would ideally be a better mark for non-SG builds

But worse for SG

[zealous wing]

but, if BCoB, it COULD work

only thing is, can you quell while its turned on

it'd make sense for you to not be able to, but you can quell while in SG

[white valley]

Probably shouldn't be able to

[zealous wing]

turn off the quelling, but make the meter work like a pocket SG maybe? increases peril, killling slows its increase slightly, but gets faster over time, which, doublestacked with SG and WU, would make a good killing machine

[white valley]

Nah killing shouldn't slow it

It shouldn't be like SG

If anything, hitting should increase peril more

Just like relic blade/falchion

They heat up more per hit

[zealous wing]

oh they do?

[white valley]

Aye

[zealous wing]

i didnt notice

am too good at peril management for relic blade shenanigans

[white valley]

Sort of counteracted by Cranial Grounding though

[zinc phoenix]

Which everyone uses

[white valley]

They generate heat per hit but Cranial Groundint slows down heat gen

[zinc phoenix]

They’re not gonna make a sword that blows you up for swinging

[white valley]

Exactly

[zealous wing]

honestly idk if i did, i should check

didnt use it for long, maybe a week

then i found thammer

[white valley]

Could just deactivate at critical peril automatically

[zealous wing]

they gave vets a gun that blows you up for shooting

[zinc phoenix]

Shooting is a secondary action, melee is the primary

[white valley]

Eh not for vets and psykers

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, for everyone

[zealous wing]

they gave psykers a sword that blows us up for parrying

[zinc phoenix]

If you can’t defend yourself with melee you will die

[zealous wing]

they gave us swords that blow us up for pushing

[white valley]

Sure

[zinc phoenix]

Pushing

[zealous wing]

dueling sword

[zinc phoenix]

Pushing is also a secondary action. You can defend yourself fine without it

[white valley]

But a staff psyker's damage output is like 90%+ ranged

[zinc phoenix]

At the high end of gameplay yes

[deft stump]

Let me guess, you haven't tried melee vet.

[white valley]

I have not, I know it is reasonably powerful

But the expected role of a vet is special sniping and elite busting

[zealous wing]

and VoC

[deft stump]

[zealous wing]

[white valley]

that too

Helbore vets on their way to fire nonstop for an entire match

[deft stump]

That's like saying only bubble psykers.

[tulip kettle]

sanest darktide player

[zealous wing]

people do say only chorus zealots

and if youre a psyker and dont have bubble, good luck getting into a rando havoc party

[white valley]

Defensive abilities do have higher win rates afaik

[zealous wing]

ogryns i think are the only ones who are truly free

[deft stump]

Can do melee vet with shout anyway.

Exe stance is just funny.

[white valley]

Ogryns can take indomitable and be fine yeah

just not PBB

[deft stump]

Arby can use all 3.

[zealous wing]

yeah but there are people who will deny purely because arby

lots of people

[deft stump]

Same for denying vets ages ago.

[white valley]

True, arbitrators' have better ability balance

[zealous wing]

they dont have one that really affects the entire team to such a drastic end

[white valley]

nuncio aquila is a good support ability but not mandatory

[zealous wing]

yeah

[white valley]

I mean it still does a million things at once

[deft stump]

Depends on season but yeah.

Problem is keeping stuff under it.

[white valley]

gives toughness regen, attack speed, impact, revive speed, reduces enemy damage and attack speed, and increases damage taken by enemies

[weary idol]

yeah they have better performance amongst average players

[hearty wolf]

BZZT BZZT BZZT

[weary idol]

for the obvious reasons that offensive abilities kinda require you to be a better player yourself to get max value out of them

even the ones that are just "press this button for more damage"

[cosmic cobalt]

I unironically played dt too much and dream about it

once

can relate

[deft stump]

DT OC yuri?

[white valley]

I dream of a fireball staff

[zealous wing]

i dreamt once inferno got replaced with frost. still scares me

i didnt even play inferno

[deft stump]

I dreamt of a Loner sleeping with her Fatalist handler.

[white valley]

an ice staff would be cool

not sure there's much lore basis for it though

[summer prairie]

this event should also give assail unlimited flight time

[zealous wing]

if its infinite cleave it 100% should

[deft stump]

Server dies from 3000 shards of hate.

[summer prairie]

acceptable collateral

[zealous wing]

honestly just make them despawn if they hit nothing for like, 5s

[hearty wolf]

That reminds me of the new season of Alice in borderlands

The one million arrows thing xd

[deft stump]

GL in aurics on some maps.

[summer prairie]

Maybe poxwalkers do too much damage

who needs crushers

also maybe running health not too bad

[hearty wolf]

Gottaa survive the poxwalker breakpoints

[zealous wing]

is this because of the event, or?

[summer prairie]

no, just normal

[zealous wing]

weird. didnt think they hit that hard

[summer prairie]

could have 2-shot me if I had less dr or toughness maybe

[hearty wolf]

That's havoc tho right

[summer prairie]

yes

[white valley]

I always run 1 health curio

1 health, 1 toughness, 1 stamina

[hearty wolf]

ye because that would be fucking cooked for the normal playerbase lmao

[summer prairie]

there's also some mechanic that makes enemies do less if there's more of them in melee with you but not sure how it works in DT

[deft stump]

Seems normal. I lose 50% of my hp to a pox backstab.

Same as getting shot by sniper. Actually... more.

[white valley]

Imo it's better to have 21% bonus hp and 32% bonus toughness than 49% bonus toughness but no bonus hp

Makes you more resistant to corruption, increases value of healing

Plus so many dangerous attacks delete your toughness regardless of what it is

Most melee attacks in the game have a 2x multiplier against toughness

many ranged attacks also deal bonus toughness damage

scap captain plasma pistol shots have a 30x multiplier to toughness lmao

[deft stump]

And you take more damage after or so.

There's a debuff.

[white valley]

You're thinking plasma gunners

plasma pistols do not debuff you

[deft stump]

I dunno, got shot by a capt and it showed up as well last night

[hearty wolf]

Dominic Shizzlestick is typing

[tulip kettle]

Yeah I now run 2 tough 1 hp as you get well over 100 tough with just the 2 curios in H40. I know the actual number doesn't mean too much but I have noticed being alive instead of dead due to the hp a fair bit

[tulip kettle]

On my phone it takes forever 😭

[deft stump]

I type faster on phone.

Heck, I do my RP stuff on phone for a reason.

[white valley]

even very good players take health damage, it's inevitable

all it takes is for your toughness to break, which isn't that difficult

[zealous wing]

reminds me of the people insisting a +1 wound was auric/havoc meta

[white valley]

hell nah

[zealous wing]

was trying to teach a newbie how to psyker, we were in auric and the rando would not stop saying the wound was what saved them

[kind jay]

can't take health damage if you don't have any health. this message paid for by Crushers

[zealous wing]

there has also been people in here insisting wounds were what the real pros take because they dont need toughness or hp curios

like

bro if they dont need hp or toughness, why do you think they need the wound curios 😭

[plucky flax]

Imagine typing on phone for rp

[zealous wing]

they'd be likely to take 3 stam curios, honestly, if they were THAT confident in their skill

having done marty book zealot, the wounds only stop you from outright dying if your team HAPPENS to be able to pick you up, and IF you got downed by something that wasnt a nice friendly instakill

aka, i only was able to be picked up once or twice in a couple h40 tries anyway, then get instakilled or the swarm is too much and the team cant reach me

[white valley]

the wounds are only convenient when shit hasn't hit the fan

[zealous wing]

genuinely

you want protection against shit getting real, not, oopsie barrel got me downed, pls help

[radiant frigate]

whomst'd've

wound curios have one use case and it's martyr zealot

[kind jay]

what about 5 wound suipsyker

totally legit. approved by the nba

[deft stump]

+9 stam is the way, yes?

[deft stump]

Shush you.

[marble crater]

No

Go play C2077 with all your cheats

[zealous wing]

with stam regen, ally revive speed, sprint efficiency all the clutch tools

[deft stump]

You mean, sus mods. I got a 'fun' BD mod.

[rancid jasper]

ability regen

[zealous wing]

also a contender

perhaps 2 of each

[rancid jasper]

if you're really that good, you don't need to revive your allies 🤷‍♂️

[zealous wing]

bullshit

[rancid jasper]

just leave them to die and afk the rest of the game while you win alone

[rancid jasper]

is this not a hypothetical scenario in which a player is completely perfect at the game and therefore doesn't need extra hp, toughness or wounds?

[zealous wing]

nah no matter what anyone says, you need aggro-pullers when you can get them

well, even the most pro person i know about cant do a 4 person h40 when 3 teammates are dead

[rancid jasper]

find a more pro person

[zealous wing]

i dont think anyone more pro exists yet

[rancid jasper]

https://tenor.com/bQmbX.gif

[zealous wing]

being able to fight 4 peoples worth of enemies in an h40 now-solo also sounds VERY overwhelming, very quickly

[rancid jasper]

[me, a person who has never played h40 in their life]

[white valley]

The humble trauma staff

Crusher's live reaction when I open a portal into warpspace beneath his feet

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[vestal flower]

What is Psyker's niche in Darktide?

I feel like it is meant as a "glass cannon" kind of class, but compared to for example Zealot, it doesn't seem all that "cannon like" compared to it, but is made of glass

like the damage a psyker can do in my experience does not justify their squishiness compared to other classes

or am I mistaken?

is it just variety? Like they can horde clear super well, they can hunt elites, bosses etc. super good too?

[jovial juniper]

You are indeed mistaken
Psyker is a glass cannon without the glass

[young cliff]

Mainly AoE damage dealer, it has good damage in area and used to be more squishy, prob will be nerfed a little in that regard (?) but it's single target usually isn't that impressive like the zealot

It's probably THE designated char to clear enemies behind the team other than the boss on spawn of those and ambushes

[weary idol]

kill everything and prevent the other 3 people from playing the game by killing everything too fast

[white valley]

you could not be more mistaken

Psyker atm has the highest damage output of all 5 classes

[weary idol]

https://fximgur.com/a/qWhxq1b example clip of gun psyker before the recent update that buffed psyker durability

(gun psyker is not considered the strongest psyker playstyle)

[white valley]

usually, their role is area control, through a combination of AoE damage and cc

In this sense they're sort of siblings to the ogryn, who also specializes in aoe damage and cc

[weary idol]

mutants amiright

[rancid jasper]

cannon cannon

[jovial juniper]

They tried to make psyker balanced by making him squishy while also ignore half of the games mechanics

Nowadays psyker just ignore half of the games mechanics

[rancid jasper]

making them squishy and then also giving them some of the strongest toughness regen options

I like Psyker because [maybe hot take] I think they have the most build variety IF you're not restricting yourself to meta.

There's just a crazy amount of unique things you can build into as psyker and they all play very differently. I never felt that way with the other classes. They all felt like I was being forced into one character archetype while using pretty samey weapons, abilities and blitzes

like all the other blitzes are just different types of rock or rock that goes boom

[weary idol]

I would say veteran more so

Psyker's keystones are too focused into doing one specific thing

[rancid jasper]

That's precisely what gives it variety for me. They all do such vastly different things and can easily be understood the purpose of and built around with intention. The other keystones feel so neutral to me that they are dull

Again this is just my experience))

[white valley]

EP is kind of a meme

[weary idol]

Okay but EP assail is really funny

[white valley]

But Warp Siphon and DD offer vastly different experiences

[rancid jasper]

And yet it's perfectly viable as long as you aren't running havoc 40s

[tulip kettle]

Yeah EP is really just not a good choice regardless

[white valley]

True!

[rancid jasper]

I like EP brain burst.

[tulip kettle]

But when would you take EP instead of DD if not memeing

[white valley]

Viable is meaningless, it is also viable to play without talents

[tulip kettle]

Damage for blitz is strictly worse than damage for eveything

[rancid jasper]

Depends on your definition of memeing. It could be the right pick if you're a "lower tier player"

Can be easier to use and grasp than the others

[weary idol]

because 400% cleave assail is really funny

You can also cosplay an Arbites shock mine with EP Smite+SG

[rancid jasper]

I find kinetic resonance + EP brain burst really funny.

Rapid fire head popping

[weary idol]

if only the mortis trials multi brain burst was an upgrade to the ability...

oh well

[rancid jasper]

I would like if the secondary fire of brain burst could multi if you charged it for long. In case you forgot about it (don't blame you), the secondary fire with a longer charge up but doesn't need LoS on the enemy that is almost useless most of the time

[vestal flower]

what would be then?

also did Psyker get some baseline buffs or talents were buffed?

also what are the most important talents for Psyker durability?

[white valley]

Psyker got baseline buffs to toughness, plus a cleaner talent tree that gives you better talents, including 10% free crit chance for soulblaze builds

[jovial juniper]

Just a Dream is unfathomably broken

[vestal flower]

EP?

[white valley]

One with the Warp, Just a Dream, and Empathic Evasion are the best talents for survivability

[white valley]

Empowered Psionics, the middle keystone that enhances your blitz

[vestal flower]

ahh I see, I have been using Assail with the right most capstone for a while now and scrier too on it

[weary idol]

yeah that's what most people do

it's the gun psyker build

EP assail is peak meme build

[white valley]

Aye assail synergizes well with DD

[weary idol]

thing will kill like 12 poxers a throw if it crits

it's hilarious

and wildly impractical

[vestal flower]

I used the automatic laser gun with it for a while, but recently switched to voidstrike staff or whatev its called to test it out for a bit

[dense flume]

grenades = boom rock

[vestal flower]

I wasn't using Empathic evasion for a while, but now that I had recently picked it, omg I can hear it going off constantly, so much value

[white valley]

it's especially valuable if you're not picking bubble

[buoyant maple]

Pls no it’s so cancer to play with

[rancid jasper]

[weary idol]

obviously not the full thing

but like make EP brain burst at least one other dude

please

[marble crater]

Wish granted, you now brain burst the enemy and the psyker

[zealous wing]

but that already happens sometimes

also, define multi brain burst

like, what KF does if you BB an ogryn? or, is it different

[marble crater]

AoE Brain Burst

[tulip kettle]

it casts brainburst on 10 enemies around the enemy you brainburst

[languid pine]

aoe that clears everything

[zealous wing]

ah

that does sound fun

overpowered as hell

but fun

[tulip kettle]

if EP made it do this in normal games Ep would be viable

as it is its literally just worse for everything except smite builds

and we all know what that means

yeah sure EP makes assail good, but so does warp splitting and DD

[zealous wing]

EP BB was actually kinda fun down in heresy when i was playing with it. sudden trapper? pop. but, overly useful? not really

free BB seemed the best option of the three blitz for an EP build, because BB is kinda slow, and it being stronger also nice, and it being free was even nicer

[buoyant maple]

Brain rupture is unfortunately not enough damage tbh

KF is more damage than brain rupture most of the time

Wouldn’t mind if brain rupture had some instakill overrides

[tulip kettle]

i said this, in all the psyker reworks they didnt either reduce cast time or increase dmg, which is all they need to do

double its base dmg, it still only hits one target and still wont OHK ogryn enemies

[vestal flower]

• its too damn slow and tied to blitz instead of staff. Unlike the one in Vermintide 2

[buoyant maple]

I think both krak and BR need instakill override

[white sky]

What does this mean?

[zealous wing]

also, dom, i have been practicing the way of VB, i have become much more aware of teammates beiong near barrels. its like a sixth sense has awoken. you KNEW that barrel was there. you know which barrel i mean.

[tulip kettle]

they need to be hard coded to instantly kill enemies like rock is

[buoyant maple]

Regardless of damage dealt, if it hits it’ll kill in 1 hit

[tulip kettle]

ofc i did

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn rock does this on many enemies

[tulip kettle]

it was 100% premeditated and im not ashamed to admit it

[buoyant maple]

Notably mutant and Dreg rager

[deft stump]

This just reminds me... DLSS is what causes stutters when oggies use box of boom.

[zealous wing]

at least you have honour

[white sky]

Yeah, I agree tbh. Wouldnt mind it if the actual beep timer till explosion was faster too.

[deft stump]

I didn't stutter with it off.

[dense flume]

like, regular dlss or frame gen fancy pants kind of stuff?

[deft stump]

Reg DLSS 3 or 4.

[tulip kettle]

also this one is really funny because its like i mind controlled the guy to do it to himself

[deft stump]

I turned them off.

[tulip kettle]

you can see me consider it, then decide not to do it, then decide again to do it but its too late because hes already done it to himself

[marble crater]

I'm proud of you

[zealous wing]

and then "damn i didnt get to do it"

[deft stump]

I can still play at stable 40 fps so... also, why is it with DLSS, my FPS is 7 to 144 and without, I get stableish 49~ in havoc 40?

[tulip kettle]

the dissapointed release of the charge

[marble crater]

Clearly your PC hates DLSS

[zealous wing]

watching OTHER people get yeeted will never not be funny

[tulip kettle]

actual skillshot

[deft stump]

This also happens in Cyberpunk btw.

Memory leak not withstanding.

[tulip kettle]

what setting do you use for DLSS?

[deft stump]

Off.

[marble crater]

Maybe because you play Cyberpunk on the same PC? Who knows

[tulip kettle]

with it on i mean

[deft stump]

Just balanced.

[tulip kettle]

if you set it for performance instead of dynamic you should get more stable higher frames

[deft stump]

Cos everything else loses fps.

Performance is 10 fps less on avg staring at a wall.

[tulip kettle]

very odd

[deft stump]

I did that.

I actually lost FPS.

It's karking hilarious.

[tulip kettle]

stupid question im sure

you do have an nvidia gtx card right?

[deft stump]

Yes.

3060 ti

[tulip kettle]

weird, i have the same and its pretty noticeable how much better DT performs with DLSS on, and on performance setting

computers do be crazy

[deft stump]

Yep.

And cpu being a factor.

But then again, DLSS is GPU thing.

Unless it runs the cpu more.

[zealous wing]

i believe i was also having issues with DLSS when i first loaded DT

[deft stump]

I have been playing for like... I dunno... hundreds of hours.

[zealous wing]

i havent turned it OFF though, not sure why i didnt

it works, havent tried without it

[tulip kettle]

what about changing the model type, and do you use low latency?

[zealous wing]

this is my settings

[tulip kettle]

same, but uncapped fps

[deft stump]

All of them tried. Box of boom stutters to kark.

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah same

boom box and rumbler spam is stutters for days

[deft stump]

Off, some lag but that's explosions in general.

[zealous wing]

funnily enough i dont get those stutters unless its like, the mortis trial megaspam they get to do

[deft stump]

But not going from 70 fps to 0.2 fps.

[tulip kettle]

i only have issues in the game im due to get OOM crash

then i get the OOM crash and reload and its fine for the next 6-7 games

[deft stump]

I found out when I got two oggies last night destroying rations and throwing boxes.

Like, 5-8 fps loss but not...

Near 0 FPS gameplay.

[deft stump]

Try with it off?

Just curiousity things.

[icy breach]

Framerate capping is a good option

[deft stump]

Don't need for me. I don't go to even 60 barring right at the start (might be over closer to 80) or load screens.

And capping at 30 blargh.

[leaden wind]

Psyker twitter

[marble crater]

@deft stump are you richer now after the CS skin update?

[deft stump]

I don't deal with CSGO.

[languid osprey]

ive been trying the two handed power sword but im not sure about the blessings

any recomendations?

[marble crater]

I thought you sold knives to buy games

[deft stump]

DOTA stuff.

[marble crater]

Same thing

[zealous wing]

i presume you mean the FGS, Force Greatsword, in which case, unstable power is top priority

other than that, its preference between i believe wrath or deflector?

i use deflector on mine, so i never remember the other one

[languid osprey]

unstable power is that good?

[zealous wing]

yes

it stacks, which, the desc doesnt tell you

it stacks 4 times

so, 80% peril, +20% strength

[summer prairie]

You can run whatever, nothing is a must. Me and Agent run unstable power+shred, but shred+riposte or wrath is fine too.

[zealous wing]

idk what you mean, ive only ever seen agent run knife

[summer prairie]

he only runs it with purg

[zealous wing]

and ive only ever seen him run purge

when we h40 he almost always gets purg priority pick

[summer prairie]

depends on who he is playing with

if he wants to try hard he'll play purg

[plucky flax]

I let you play purg

Speaking of which I am playing now hard map.

If people wanna suffer.

[thorn cedar]

just let me know when u guys need a mind in motion user to carry ur 40s

[summer prairie]

I'll enjoy this map

[plucky flax]

Come on son

I need a good surge surge.

Too many specials kicking my ass.

[zealous wing]

i dont have a surge surge build

[zealous wing]

hard map being, which, riser? or the one we kept getting fucked over on

[plucky flax]

I am playing magistrati stim rot

[zealous wing]

ew

on one hand i am tempted, on the other, i may have to leave soon, and idk if laptop gameplay will go well at all

[deft stump]

I'm only good for deranking.

[zealous wing]

rot + stims is only good for deranking lets be real

[deft stump]

Yeah, but I speed it up.

You and Dom found out, lul.

[solid pond]

my 40 atm is rotten stims silo cluster

https://tenor.com/view/my-time-has-come-gif-9231594

[deft stump]

I guess I have the sanest one. Cranial Purple Consignment.

[solid pond]

map can be rough but those are really easy modifiers

[deft stump]

Thus, sanest one.

I think might need bubble for finale.

[solid pond]

bubble smokes or its train camping time

[tulip kettle]

just won 2 40's in a row

im ready to derank

[plucky flax]

You can come if you want.

We just lost.

[zealous wing]

that was fast

[plucky flax]

Yeah I got 1 shotted by crusher from behind.

[zealous wing]

damn

[tulip kettle]

i have a cranial and stimms carnival 33

[zealous wing]

how many slots are filled

[tulip kettle]

if you want to do that

[summer prairie]

weren't you 38

[tulip kettle]

i was 37 a week ago when we last played

but then many games happened at 5am

on six's riser 40 with rot

and rank assasSIN

[plucky flax]

Just me and syllo.

Nvm it's only 1 left now.

A mate joined.

[zealous wing]

[deft stump]

It was me, wasn't it?

[zealous wing]

have a little time, lmk if a slot opens and you need a temp placement

i can run book bot or bubble anything else requires more braincells

[shrewd comet]

this event is hectic man! lmao

[royal totem]

@deft stump but i need your help for my h40 clear 🙁

[deft stump]

Syllo and Chaos is playing atm.

[royal totem]

but without the karien luck it's just not the same 😛

i'm actually trolling around in the psykhanium atm trying to memorize this combo better

[deft stump]

I don't remember combos. I light or I heavy.

Or I L1 into H2.

[royal totem]

i'm trying out Heavy special heavy light repeat

[deft stump]

I am a jinx.

[royal totem]

i only play 1 havoc a week now for the rewards.

[deft stump]

I mean...

[zealous wing]

how does this happen

[royal totem]

you've played a lot lmao

[zealous wing]

i was 1337 hrs this morning

[royal totem]

oh huh

wut

[weary crane]

This is sad

[solid pond]

touch grass nerd

[zealous wing]

i do

[royal totem]

i don't even have 600 hours

[zealous wing]

youre on the right track

[hearty wolf]

play?

[zealous wing]

joined little over a month after i did

[graceful arch]

Yo

How are gayms going

[royal totem]

Idk. I just go out for a week at a time to touch grass and forger how to darktide

[upbeat kestrel]

im gonna touch concrete from 12 to 28 of november

[graceful arch]

I have around 450 in the tides of dark

[royal totem]

Touch...concrete?

[zealous wing]

oh yeah

nemui, you wanted something elven-like in terms of drip

[royal totem]

Yes

[zealous wing]

its not perfect, but this torso is real nice

very mage-like

theres hope

[royal totem]

Is it thr one currently in commodores or?

[zealous wing]

its brand new, yeah

[graceful arch]

Bald

[royal totem]

And yeah that does look elvem esque

[graceful arch]

Anyways hexis how's your second psyker doing

[zealous wing]

deleted

[graceful arch]

Ah

[zealous wing]

2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th have been deleted

this is 6th

[graceful arch]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-snap-finger-snap-gif-12502580

[zealous wing]

she's lvl 17 now

[graceful arch]

I might create a second psyker just to farm melk bucks

[zealous wing]

just finished her weeklies actually

[royal totem]

I have 2 arbs

[solid pond]

getting your money's worth

[royal totem]

Very

[zealous wing]

i sense psyker6's deletion coming soon though

[graceful arch]

Why are you just leveling psykers and deleting them

[zealous wing]

because i like the process

[graceful arch]

Do you derive some sick pleasure from doing so?

[zealous wing]

i dont like the deleting them, but, theres a character cap

[solid pond]

pretty sure there is a mod for that

[zealous wing]

and what happens if the mod breaks

i dont want to risk losing my actual characters if that mod fucks something up

or if i forget to reenable mods after an update

[mental rock]

Removing the mod does not delete the characters

You just can't make more if you are above the normal limit of 5

[zealous wing]

the limit is 8, whats the mod do

[royal totem]

Isnt norm lim 8

[graceful arch]

The limit is 8 now anyways

[mental rock]

Oh is it 8 now

Same difference

[graceful arch]

Does the mod make it 12 or?

[mental rock]

Looks like the server caps at 8 now, regardless of mods

[zealous wing]

f

was hopeful for a moment

they heard about potato

[royal totem]

Lmao

[zealous wing]

new class reveal nov11

place your bets, dlc or base

my money is on dlc

[solid pond]

ofc its dlc

atleast the classes are cheaper than their cosmetics

atleast one thing shart fart has going for them

[marble crater]

I bet Arby will finally get skins but the new class won't

[zealous wing]

no watch it be even funnier. arby still no skins, new class WILL

[hearty wolf]

huh

what

is that real

[zealous wing]

ye

[hearty wolf]

wtf

do we know any kind of details

that's so soon

[zealous wing]

no

[hearty wolf]

I'm going to save my next paycheck then when it released at £60

darktide expansion

[zealous wing]

new operations map too

all ive been able to glean from driptide

heading out now tho

[wraith sphinx]

holy shit another new class so soon?

[hearty wolf]

ikr

[royal totem]

guess time to save materials

and not make new arbs

[zealous wing]

what materials, youre broke

[sturdy reef]

Another fucking class?

Wtf?

[hearty wolf]

I wonder if it's gonna be undercooked and how interesting they can really make new blitz or abilities

[sturdy reef]

Is Obese Megalodon finally hitting gas?

Also

[loud girder]

they made bank on arbite

[sturdy reef]

Dibs on Skitarii

[loud girder]

it's 100% mechanicus related

[sturdy reef]

Yup

[royal totem]

i'm only broke on ordo dockets lmao

[sturdy reef]

Hmm

Could be a hive world esque class

But idk how thatd be different from zealot

[wraith sphinx]

how so

[sturdy reef]

It has to be visually unique as well

[wraith sphinx]

has that been the most requested class?

[sturdy reef]

Skitarii fits the best

[loud girder]

just a random hunch

[sturdy reef]

I doubt they would do ratling

Arbites was teased

[loud girder]

mechanicus stuff is heavily requested

and if they're listining its the obvious choice

[boreal swallow]

Ganger offshoot to fit the criminal theme?

[sturdy reef]

How would he play differently that vet tho

[vital kayak]

is psyker thr sweatiest class

[sturdy reef]

Probably

[boreal swallow]

I didn't know there was a trailer yet, I just saw people speculating potential classes. I'm going to watch it, but still would be a possibility.

[wraith sphinx]

I thought about it on occasion and assumed a hive ganger would be some sort of a berserker class perhaps

but honestly something mechanicus related is much more likely I feel

[loud girder]

berserker is just zealot

a skitari would allow them to do something they havent tried

[wraith sphinx]

yeaaa hence

I don't think FS would be averse to doing yet another class that thematically overlaps with existing classes but hopefully they won't do that

[white valley]

I agree

[wraith sphinx]

Looking forward to seeing what they cooked up for new operation mission/s

I loved Rolling Steel

[white valley]

there's so much demand for a mechanicus class that I can't see them doing anything but that

and we're not getting ratlings or anything of the sort, since FS has said they're not doing another POV

[long wharf]

Mechanicus Battle Servitor class

that's what I'm hoping for

[wraith sphinx]

"Kayex's Curated Special"

[white valley]

Servitor is extremely unlikely

A tech adept, or a member of the mechanicus cult in Atoma, is more likely

Servitors are lobotomized and have no free will

[long wharf]

they don't need it

players do whatever the voices in their heads tell them anyways

"blow up that wall" "kill that guy"

[wraith sphinx]

it would be funny but I don't see it happening

[long wharf]

"Would you kindly kill all heretics in the area"

[wraith sphinx]

"Your word... is my mandate..."

[long wharf]

"I bzzt live to serve bzzt clang"

[ripe obsidian]

I would like to be a Skitarius, or however it's spelled

[white valley]

you spelled it correctly

Aye Skitarius or Tech Adept are good options for mechanicus

And so many people are mechanicus fanboys

[long wharf]

you misspelled "femboys*

[potent echo]

ayo new class again?

[white valley]

lmao, that too

[white valley]

looks like it

[stark haven]

Force Sword and Force Greatsword both have the Blazing Spirit blessing, but the former has 12 stacks mentioned, the latter doesn't. Is it a error in description or is there such a difference?

[potent echo]

[long wharf]

description discrepency

it's a trap anyways

[stark haven]

Okei, thanks

[long wharf]

your sword should be killing too quickly for any amount of noticeable soulblaze stacks to stack up

when you start putting builds together, you'll find your melee needing to be focused more on anti-armor/single target

and there are much better blessings than Blazing Spirit on such a weapon

[stark haven]

Yes, that I do know. But I want to roleplay as a paladin of some sort

:]]

[long wharf]

carry on

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-ill-allow-it-allowed-gif-4468552

[stark haven]

Kiitos

[royal totem]

hmmmmm.....damnation keeps breaking my toughness. think i need to be more careful

[long wharf]

I wonder if the FGS's warp slash projectile can apply soulblaze via Blazing Spirit...

[hearty wolf]

We can check if it's a build problem or not

[royal totem]

it's a challenge mode of 0 curios problem

[ripe obsidian]

I did not see a news post or leak or anything. Can you link me, pls?

[marble crater]

#📢news-bulletin

[white valley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeaZmDtfPRs

We actually got a roadmap, bequeathed to us by Adipose Carcharias

[pallid stump]

is inner tranquility good for inferno staff and ek staff?

[languid cipher]

a skitarii maybe

[white valley]

if you want peril reduction, most people prefer empyric resolve, due to being way more consistent

inferno usually doesn't need peril cost reduction though

[royal totem]

hmmm.......i'm just curios how the lore of the new class would work

[long wharf]

nobody knows

the class hasn't been announced yet

[white valley]

I mean that depends on what it is in the first place

[royal totem]

i don't imagine the mechanicus can just easily travel in given the warp storms and what not. also Hadron petitioned Mars and Mars basically said no right?

[long wharf]

for materiel

(weapons and such)

[pallid stump]

but if i get that isnt it recomended to get warp ghost?

[pallid stump]

NEW CLASS?!?!?!

[white valley]

there is a mechanicus cult on atoma

although they have been suspiciously silent

[royal totem]

apparently so

[pallid stump]

WOOOOOOOOO

I hope its a fun one

[royal totem]

for all we know, the mechanicus cult on atoma could already be working for nurgle though 😛

[pallid stump]

arby was so fun

[white valley]

up to you, warp ghost does alleviate the downside of empyric resolve but is not mandatory

[pallid stump]

hmm gotcha

[white valley]

true, they could be hereteks

[long wharf]

I haven't heard of nurgle having mechanicus followers

there's Dark Mechanicus

[vital kayak]

we actually got a roadmap 🥹

[long wharf]

but Nurgle represents everything wrong with the flesh

[pallid stump]

STOP GIVING ME FUCKING DUELING SWORDS GAME

[long wharf]

I don't see how that meshes with the perfection of metal for mechanicus

[pallid stump]

I forgot to take a screenshot but the game keeps giving me this shit

eh more money plast and some dia

[vital kayak]

deimos better ds

[long wharf]

it isn't

ds is much easier to get fast, repeated heavy stabs

[pallid stump]

and good heavy stabs from what i can see

[long wharf]

I believe it does better against carapace on its own

[vital kayak]

deimos heavy 2 can knock crusher

and deal big dmg

[long wharf]

deimos push can knock down the big guys

[pallid stump]

i wonder if i should get a voidblast staff

[white valley]

this is actually a dps loss

[long wharf]

but they're different weapons for different playstyles

[marble crater]

Yes

[pallid stump]

wait was it blast or stike...

[white valley]

knocking it down is cool but now the crusher is further away and it is harder to hit its head

[pallid stump]

its strike voidstrike

[long wharf]

sometimes knocking down crushers is preferrable to someone (or yourself) getting absolutely shitcanned

[vital kayak]

im having better time with horde with deimos tho

[long wharf]

having the ability to "soft CC" via knockdown is useful

but you're going to put out more dps with the ds4

[ripe obsidian]

After months of 38°C weather, 27°C feels weirdly enjoyable. Back on the east coast, this temperature would be hellish for me

[pallid stump]

if i use voidstrike i do have to get a new force sword

the isillis

for the horde clear with melee

[long wharf]

well, you don't want that high temp with humidity anywhere

[vital kayak]

but i use ds only for uncanny proc

[ripe obsidian]

I like the Force Greatsword with Voidstrike

[white valley]

ew, just get a force greatsword

[ripe obsidian]

Austin is very humid.

[long wharf]

it can be, yes

it's near the coast after all

[pallid stump]

whats wrong with the isillis?

[thorn cedar]

actually jumped out of my seat when it said new class to be revealed

[ripe obsidian]

Maryland was also very humid

[ripe obsidian]

Where say it this?

[pallid stump]

lmao

[long wharf]

were you Navy?

[white valley]

it's kinda weak

[long wharf]

the Illisi is great for horde clear

[jovial juniper]

#🐦tweets-sermons

[long wharf]

decent on mixed hordes

[white valley]

great is a strong word

it is acceptable for horde clear

but no more than that

[long wharf]

FGS is great for horde clear

doesn't care about mixed hordes at all

[white valley]

FGS is great for horde clear, and elite busting, and boss killing

And just outclasses the illisi

[long wharf]

I now want the FGS warp slash to apply warpfire

Illisi has something the FGS doesn't, though

the warp push knockdown

[white valley]

Uh

Wrong

[long wharf]

at least I never push with the FGS

[white valley]

FGS has the exact same thing

[long wharf]

my bad then, I just never use it

no need when you can just keep cutting through the horde

punctuated with the frequent back-step-and-warp-slash

[ripe obsidian]

Nah. Grew up in Maryland, moved to Austin for a job offer.

[long wharf]

alright

[pallid stump]

gotcha

[ripe obsidian]

Neat

[pallid stump]

wild idea for the new class

[ripe obsidian]

Maryland is a better state. Austin is a better city than Baltimore.

[pallid stump]

a skitarii

[radiant glacier]

someone have a psyker meta build for havoc 40? 😄

[pallid stump]

check the pins is what the master six will probably say

[marble crater]

Six is not the master of the meta!

[solid pond]

GW does love throwing new things in and saying they always existed

maybe we'll just get a new class and get the "they were always here "

[ripe obsidian]

Check the pins

I have many a build there

[tulip kettle]

i mean the lore of skitarii isnt difficult

[long wharf]

I haven't been to Austin, but I have been to MD many times

[tulip kettle]

in the hadron cutscene you get to see in the workshop

there are hundreds of acolytes in there

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, you beat me to it.

[marble crater]

There is a workshop in the Hadron cutscene?

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight nearly as much damage as gaze. Proof bubble knight is OP

[tulip kettle]

surge surge dmg kinda cracked tbh

[marble crater]

I only ever looked at Hadron

[summer prairie]

it's rotten and because I was shooting to stagger, but tru it's op

[pallid stump]

mhm mhm

[summer prairie]

since your melee doesn't really lose damage

[solid pond]

there is a hadron cutscene?

[plucky flax]

My assails do no damage to rot guys too.

Very sad.

[tulip kettle]

i mean i think the dmg is coming from muties looking at it

as in thats the thing really pushing it over, but its just super good overall

[solid pond]

wtf even is bubble knight

[tired estuary]

Can't spell assail without ass, clearly its time to buff it again

[plucky flax]

Some meme build not worth using

[tulip kettle]

cant lie my 2 wins before i joined you fellas were with a bubble knight

[solid pond]

[tulip kettle]

i think is good

[summer prairie]

Wonder what this is

[solid pond]

ill stick with my funny FGS mk6 gazeDD build for 2 tapping H40 crushers

never gets old

[jovial juniper]

Shotgun of course

[plucky flax]

Hmm looks like new class maybe next year?

Or would they release it soon after reveal?

[tired estuary]

https://youtu.be/CHv6MARjlXU?si=m-tkQeWz299dD1yt

[summer prairie]

Arbi was released quick

[plucky flax]

Maybe later in the month then.

[summer prairie]

It would be at the time of dec content release if this year

[ripe obsidian]

I am but its humble scribe.

[ripe obsidian]

I choose to believe the word "built" implies mechanicus creation, therefore Skitarius.

[solid pond]

arb was like a month after?

maybe 2?

[summer prairie]

What about this, it also has a * in front of it

[solid pond]

possible late jan update maybe

[solid pond]

is Skitarius just the group of Skitarii?

nvm

other way

[long wharf]

I dislike the way "Skitarius" sounds

[cosmic sigil]

classic FS 🙁

[royal totem]

i thought they only apply this logic to themselves and don't allow Fatshark to apply this logic

[jovial juniper]

And "purgatus" is the deadliest ranged

What the hell is a purgatus

I only know inferno

[long wharf]

fake latin

[jovial juniper]

[cosmic sigil]

AHAHHA YEAH

just saw it rn

[solid pond]

"don't allow"

they'd be the ones to force them to do dumb things

[royal totem]

ok fair enough fine fine

[cosmic sigil]

wait WHAT?>??

[royal totem]

only 785 pats 🙁

[solid pond]

the drip is impeccable

[solid pond]

for 1 doggo

[royal totem]

nvm. i misread it. lmao

[cosmic sigil]

the class is out since... 4 months?

so like 7.5 pats a day?

[royal totem]

i only give my dog 1 pat a day

[solid pond]

arbites

possible dlc class coming in december update

@cosmic sigil rude

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-eww-yuck-disgusted-nasty-gif-5453708

[plucky flax]

Looks like december drop then indeed.

[long saddle]

ye since that's when the free update drops

[white valley]

wow that's really early

Fatshark counting on christmas purchases

[ripe obsidian]

New class before a new map

Fascinating

[summer prairie]

same time you mean

[plucky flax]

Aye

[wind wind]

Gotta squeeeze that money

[white valley]

we're getting a new operation in december, something in atoma's trenches

it's confirmed

[ripe obsidian]

I don't understand their development roadmap. My understanding was that they made map templates and assets that could be reused so they could make maps faster.

[ripe obsidian]

Hopefully it will be cool

[white valley]

I have a strong feeling that map designers are working on something big

[ripe obsidian]

I hope so

[white valley]

I mean we've had what, a mortis trial map this year, and now we're getting an operation? Both of those are very light as far as maps go

[ripe obsidian]

Chaos Wastes, maybe

[white valley]

Chaos Wastes or a bunch of new maps for jeanstealers

[modest perch]

another snow map would be cool

[ripe obsidian]

Or just bad management. I've seen, in the software world, myriad projects get like 70% done then get scrapped by an executive on a whim

[modest perch]

are jeanstealers related to underwear gnomes ?

[zinc phoenix]

i carry two incredible morons thru an auric for the event with a bunch of hard clutches and then they leave in the end event because they once again have died multiple times. like come on, can we just get it done

20+ deaths from two dudes

unbelievable

[ripe obsidian]

That's what I mean about maps that reuse assets. Another snow map using existing assets, like the other areas move through the same places sometimes. Start at the end event of the first snow map and fight to a different location.

[zinc phoenix]

lasted for another 10m but too many bombers and snipers spawning to finish it b/c foundry

i couldnt kill the demons fast enough lol

[ripe obsidian]

They're just wee baby rejects, still learning their trade

[modest perch]

i see some very questionable strata in auric qp

[ripe obsidian]

I remember when I first moved from damnation to Auric

I had a very hard time

Almost went back to damnation, head hanging in shame

[zinc phoenix]

i dont mind them sucking, i mind that they couldnt stick it out to the finish after a herculean effort to get them ther

[ripe obsidian]

Now I am (sometimes) the last man standing in H40s, alone against a tide of crushers

[zinc phoenix]

i just needed em to kill the GD yellow gooby eyes and then id do the rest

[ripe obsidian]

I know, I was joking

[royal totem]

wait so you mean i can ask to be carried in auric? 😮

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtu.be/9EPYJ0-tz_U?si=IUiPEiNSJC8XcJ8u

This is a good video. Makes me think of our slop shop, as well as the slop shop in every modern online game.

[ripe obsidian]

We can try doing H40 again tonight if you want. I'll use Inferno + Shriek and burninate things.

I actually slept last night, so I even have energy

[royal totem]

would be good practice even if i fail

[deft stump]

Can someone tell me why I even decided to go inf autogun?

[ripe obsidian]

Because you thought it would be fun

[jovial juniper]

Because it's dps monsters

[deft stump]

It was not.

[royal totem]

i'm a little better at the game now. though only a little. am learning some caution from only 130 toughness in damnation lmao.

[deft stump]

I can't hit specials half the map away so we got firebombed.

Cos nobody sees my pings nor uses my ETP to notice them.

[ripe obsidian]

If you play tanky BtL + shock mine Arby and stay close to me, it should be mostly okay. I only really need help with crusher swarms, bosses, and the occasional special I can't hear

[royal totem]

shock mine spam? lul

[deft stump]

Oh, every boss MELTED.

More so if they decided to run at me.

[royal totem]

i haven't played dogless in a while. i should practice that again.

it's weird pinging, and no dog cuz anything cuz ....you don't have a dog

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-eww-yuck-disgusted-nasty-gif-5453708

[frail osprey]

The grenade regen is fun though

[royal totem]

it IS fun

it's just a bit of getting used to

[ripe obsidian]

I am sorry. :<

[ripe obsidian]

Shock mines are probably the best blitz in the game. They're obscenely good.

[hearty wolf]

Smite mines

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

Smite, but you're still allowed to play the game

[royal totem]

Idk about "best" but they are very good

[ripe obsidian]

In H40, I toss a shock mine into a choke point to tank for the psyker clearing the horde, then I go focus a boss

[tulip kettle]

how am i gonna play with a stacked party and lose 6 in a row

then queue with randoms and win

[ripe obsidian]

Honestly the best. 15 second pause button. If you use it as it comes up, it's a 25% uptime

[tulip kettle]

make it make sense

[ripe obsidian]

Luck of the spawns? Good modifiers? Better shared braincell with the team?

[tulip kettle]

i think part of it is once you get really good you play differently idk

[royal totem]

Randoms dont always mean bad

[tulip kettle]

better shared braincell is probably right in some way

i also notice in every one of my wins there is no backwards play

always forward or stand

the hard bit with randoms is always needing to be the person pushing

[ripe obsidian]

I think current H40 is more punishing on team compositions, especially with rotten armor

[tulip kettle]

i honestly think rot armour is the biggest problem yes

its more punishing to fall back

because instead of getting spammed with hordes you are spammed with crushers

[ripe obsidian]

Like, you need someone to frontline and hold back the armor, need someone who can focus the 4 bombers who just walked out and will make the entire map fire, need someone to horde clear, need someone who can blow up bosses...

Yeah, I don't know the exact code for trickle hordes, but I think current H40 has upped horde rates, and since they're replaced with armor, if you get bogged down, you just stay bogged down.

[tulip kettle]

thats precisely what i mean

its also funny how the moment you move forward they stop

[long wharf]

typical FartShack - drop new, untested stuff that's bound to break in so many ways, immediately before going on mandatory vacation

[ripe obsidian]

I'd have to check the code to see how it works, if trickle hordes happen more when not making active forward progress

[tulip kettle]

im 100% sure they do without seeing the code

[ripe obsidian]

The only really broken thing is certain enemies getting 100% DR with blue stim and pox gas

Current H40 works as intended

Is just quite hard

[long wharf]

new code invariably breaks in some way

FartShack has a long-standing tradition of not testing anything before they push out to prod

[ripe obsidian]

I have seen people say rotten armor isn't difficult, and I disagree. The walls of 10k HP crushers that ignore ranged damage are tough to push through, especially when they just don't stop coming

[ripe obsidian]

Well, yes. But in this particular instance I can't think of any major havoc-related bugs

[long wharf]

I'm not concerned with havoc specifically

just FartShack's devops and code quality in general

[royal totem]

The silent crusher that waltzes up behind you

[long wharf]

not even waltzes, ice skating

perfectly silent killer in the dark

[royal totem]

And then it takes a yellow stim ._.

[strong gulch]

I have too much of a skill issue for rot armor to no be difficult.

[long wharf]

and whispers into your ear "Prepare yourself"

[tulip kettle]

is kind of true, but also the crushers actually just die if concentrated effort is made by the team

it gets hard when there is also bosses and stuff about

[ripe obsidian]

I will also say that testing software can be hard. There are so many edge cases. Like, when I worked for Zenimax (not an exciting job, just IT stuff), I saw people on reddit complaining about how they discovered a bug day 1, and how did Zenimax not find it. But it's a matter of scale and scope. The testing team was like 20 people documenting and recreating bugs, but the game has thousands of players. The playerbase generates more playtime in a day than the testers can in a year.

[tulip kettle]

pink captain in rot cursher blob

bad news bears.

[long wharf]

I am very familiar with the tendency of even well-tested code to have bugs

[ripe obsidian]

If you have good tools for the job. Power sword, krak, branx (probably), whatever else. But 10k HP carapace is hard to cut through in the best of cases.

[long wharf]

that doesn't change the fact that if FatShark did any testing, 80% of bugs in newly released code would have been found

FatShark doesn't have dedicated testers/QA

[loud girder]

didnt they say they buffed crusher hp cause they're reducing their numbers

then proceeded to spam them with double hp

[tulip kettle]

they did say that

and it is true actually

[long wharf]

so you can't blame QA finding stuff that devs either ignore or deprioritize

[tulip kettle]

but then they added rot armour as a modifier

[ripe obsidian]

Crushers do seem to spawn less in non-rot maps

[ripe obsidian]

Unfortunate.

[granite kelp]

[tulip kettle]

and rot armour replaces all trickle hordes with infested armour blobs

[loud girder]

rot armor was fun in auric it should have never been a thing in havoc idk

[tulip kettle]

in what universe

[long wharf]

it definitely needs toning down

[ripe obsidian]

This is also true. I think the QA bug queue at Zenimax was in the tens of thousands at the time of release.

[tulip kettle]

did evis get more kills than inferno

[long wharf]

it happens

[tulip kettle]

thats actually just nonsense

[long wharf]

QA will find a lot of stuff

and devs only have so much time

[marble crater]

Ah, you see that is Purgatus, not Inferno

[long wharf]

which is why prioritization happens, and some stuff lingers for a long time in the backlog

[ripe obsidian]

Number of players who play Zealot versus Psyker, probably. And not many people used Inferno pre-Havoc

[ripe obsidian]

It would be hilarious if they're actually counting them separately

[long wharf]

before havoc, we didn't have enemy densities at a level where purge became meta

[marble crater]

Yes, yes it would

[strong gulch]

For clarity!

To reduce confusion.

It just makes sense.

[long wharf]

It Just Works

[modest perch]

idk tho purga was always good

and tbh it feels like auric density used to be higher

[ripe obsidian]

I am one of the filthy degenerates who actually finds Inferno fun. For me, it's probably Voidstrike > EK = Inferno > Voidblast (for fun playing). The only one I don't really like playing is Voidblast. It's not an engaging weapon for me.

[long wharf]

purge never outclassed anything until havoc enemy densities

[modest perch]

but the director is just blowing all of its spawn resources on specialist spam

[ripe obsidian]

Is true. Maelstrom was often easier than HISTG Auric because the special spawns took the budget

[rich spindle]

I remeber it surpassing trauma in auric mael when it got blaze away

[long wharf]

that too

purge has no business having Blaze Away

[rich spindle]

blaze away was a mistake

[modest perch]

wrong

[long wharf]

typical FartShack not understanding their own weapon balance and blessings

[strong gulch]

My staff fun list is probably EK >>> VB > inferno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VS

[tulip kettle]

in auric i like voidblast and Ek the most, probably blazing trauma tops the list.

[long wharf]

I wish surge staff was better

it was my favorite for a long time

[tulip kettle]

but in havoc not only is inferno good its also fun

i love when you get a good angle on the pox horde and they all just evaporate

[ripe obsidian]

I would be curious to see how Inferno fares in H40 without Blaze Away.

[tulip kettle]

i love stacking sb on crushers and pushing with my FS as my team bonk em

i hate when the above happens but my team dont bonk em and i go splat 🙁

[long wharf]

I'm sure it'll still work, but you won't be nuking mixed hordes nearly as well

[rich spindle]

it would still be top because of how it interacts with perilous combustion imo

[ripe obsidian]

Poor Voidstrike. It's so crunchy.

[long wharf]

voidstrike needs infinite cleave

[strong gulch]

I just appreciate how simple inferno is to use when I want to play but I'm not doing great health wise. Inferno is brainfog, I haven't slept, 300 ping, etc friendly.

[tulip kettle]

even just like, 50 cleave

[patent mango]

voidstrike needs bouncing bowling ball projectiles

[marble crater]

Why don't you just use Pots

[long wharf]

I'd love for voidstrike to bounce

[solid pond]

psykers with hands and vets with hands make short work of even rotten

[ripe obsidian]

Possibly. Blazing Trauma might top it. Still infinite cleave, higher burst, better crusher killing, but worse soulblaze application.

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[solid pond]

stimms is the problem, not rotten IMO

[ripe obsidian]

I play with my feet.

[strong gulch]

I might use it then.

[kind jay]

out of my 2k hours probably like 97% of that is on ek. my one trick pony ass rofl

[solid pond]

based

[tulip kettle]

no stimms is literally fine

apart from broken blue + gas

[solid pond]

my group only cares about stimms

[long wharf]

voidstrike needs infinite cleave and sizeable explosion radius

[tulip kettle]

your group probably knows how to move forward and doesnt run from crushers

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, that would actually be cool. Or maybe instead of an explosion, a cone of damage when it hits an enemy?

[patent mango]

i want the staves to have more depth instead of just better

[strong gulch]

If we do more havocs, I can try BK. My melee fundamentals are weak tho.

[tulip kettle]

teams who backpedal from the armour which spawns more armour lose to rot

[long wharf]

no a real explosion radius when it stops

[solid pond]

how would it explode if it has infinite cleave

[patent mango]

all the staves rn are pretty boring

[long wharf]

on walls/carapace/unyielding

[winged creek]

if voidstrike had either faster charging, or partially charged shots had better scaling, might stand a chance, my favorite staff visually and playstyle wise, but sadly voidstrike just isn't good so don't use it much

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike needs a better charge time or enough damage to actually kill the buffed elites.

[long wharf]

it definitely needs surge charge speeds

gimme a reason to use it, PLEASE FartShack

[solid pond]

yeah the funny ball needs to do giga damage really

[rich spindle]

I havent found blazing trauma to apply enough soulblaze without shriek

for havoc

[tulip kettle]

this is true

[solid pond]

like a surge crit should be able to kill a H40 crusher

change my mind

[tulip kettle]

idk why blazing isnt 12 stacks on staves like on melee weapons

[patent mango]

lemme overcharge voidstrike to shoot a slow bfg projectile

[tulip kettle]

as much as i would love this, no.

[ripe obsidian]

Can it even kill an Auric crusher anymore? Each hit would need to do 3250+ damage

[long wharf]

surge needs to be able to target weakspots when player aims at them

[weary idol]

gambling

[ripe obsidian]

Surge staff just needs its RMB crit scaling fixed

[patent mango]

surge defo needs more depth

[long wharf]

fixed how?

[tulip kettle]

its not gamblng if you can push to 65% + crit chance and also have true aim

[solid pond]

why

[tulip kettle]

too broken

[solid pond]

how

[ripe obsidian]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/incorrect-finesse-multiplier-on-electrokinetic-staff/112098

[tulip kettle]

being able to 1 shot crushers on a 1 second CD forever with SG is broken and idk how you could think otherwise

[solid pond]

purg

exists

[tulip kettle]

purg cant do that

[solid pond]

[solid pond]

give it like 8 seconds and it can do that to a room of them

in that time you killed

8?

[tulip kettle]

purg also is limited by its range

and purg also does not kill crushers