You need the power stimms
#psyker-class
deft stump
When your knoife shreds through captain shields because you do the Jojo meme but knoife.
kind jay
what's the diff between retrieve and destroy? so far all my games retrieve which causes crazy spawns (love it). what does destroy do?
deft stump
what's the diff between retrieve and destroy? so far all my games retrieve which...
Crazy spawns, but mobians and captains. Twins in higher diffs.
royal totem
I keep trying to get twins
kind jay
ohh snap
royal totem
But ppl stop me
royal totem
Ppl keep stopping me 🙁
deft stump
Malice never gets to the point to spawn them.
marble crater
Destroying is easier to do on controller, and that's really all that matters to me
deft stump
Heresy is the same.
summer prairie
you can get both spawns if you collect enough and split
kind jay
ah shit imma have to try that
royal totem
Im just chaotic. I want to cause some mayhem
strong gulch
I keep trying to get twins
If we play, i can change my keybind to destroy so we get twins.
royal totem
Im willing to play after i finish lunch lmao
....i think i burned myblunch by accident. Too much chaos
marble crater
What did you burn?
royal totem
A filled bread
marble crater
Filled bread? Filled with what?
royal totem
Leeks, green onions, salt. Probably some chives too
marble crater
Maybe it wasn't a bad thing that burned 
royal totem
Ill have you know it wasnt contaminated by nurgle
coarse vale
yo guys, is this a decent staff? i'd normally try and minimise warp res as much as possible but im not as sure on the voidblast...
marble crater
Bread is only supposed to be filled with dough 
marble crater
yo guys, is this a decent staff? i'd normally try and minimise warp res as much ...
Voidblast generates too much peril, you want it at 60
long saddle
idt you need less than 60% for anything that's not the force swords
royal totem
i'm .......pretty sure a bunch of cultures would disagree with you lmao.
long saddle
idt I've had bread that's baked as a full meal
strong gulch
yo guys, is this a decent staff? i'd normally try and minimise warp res as much ...
As Sut said, VB gens a lot of peril.
Give this one a try with ER and shriek a fire VB build to see how it feels before changing WR.
It's easier to roll another 60WR dump vs a 30.
If the 30 is too low, you have room to walk to your prefered level.
long saddle
do people run >60 on other staves?
royal totem
what's IDT btw?
strong gulch
do people run >60 on other staves?
VS (voidstrike) dumps blast radius
coarse vale
As Sut said, VB gens a lot of peril.
Give this one a try with ER and shriek a f...
Thanks, yeah im keeping this one as a relic at least haha
deft stump
@plucky flax wanna try? I just farmed a little on assignment yard.
strong gulch
the above but for some other staff
Oh less than.
You can dump inferno WR really hard.
graceful arch
yo guys, is this a decent staff? i'd normally try and minimise warp res as much ...
Voidblast is probably one of the few staff where you want warp Res at 60%
long saddle
yeah I used the wrong sign lol
strong gulch
typing hard
coarse vale
absolutely tragic, 30 WR would have been lovely on some of my other gear but oh well xD
plucky flax
<@150967101836886016> wanna try? I just farmed a little on assignment yard.
Okay I can try
deft stump
Just join and leave.
hearty wolf
@ripe obsidian
graceful arch
absolutely tragic, 30 WR would have been lovely on some of my other gear but oh ...
Yeah VB generates a metric fuck ton of peril
coarse vale
this is purely for generating rending along with an inferno psyker, so yeah the uptime is too important here as well
plucky flax
Just join and leave.
Seems to work. Only like 200 though you didn't farm that much 😮
deft stump
Fixed? Is uprising.
I wanted to look for stimms.
Just see how stonks I can get recon
My vlc is now XII.
plucky flax
Thanks Karien I'll stop for now.
strong gulch
<@417891087500312576>
hi
plucky flax
Only 200 so I'd have to rejoin like 30 times that's too much loading.
deft stump
Thanks Karien I'll stop for now.
DC RC mod?
strong gulch
what happening
deft stump
Or I can do higher diffs now that I know is working.
plucky flax
Is okie I go watch football
hearty wolf
what happening
havoc?
marble crater
what happening
I think Sin wants to kidnap and force people to play with him
hearty wolf
:o
plucky flax
I got spanked so hard by rot stim magistrati but I kind of like it.
It just sucks when they ignore cc.
fringe harbor
I’ve been seeing a lot of people run greatsword with soulblaze, can someone give me a build for it
marble crater
Soulblaze on the greatsword? That's not really more than a meme, it doesn't work
verbal thistle
I too like running only 1 blessing on FGS
strong gulch
@hearty wolf mic not working sad
deft stump
So uhh, anyone just wanna get some free points to the event?
strong gulch
trying havoc
deft stump
But turning VIc into XII but faster is funni.
marble crater
So uhh, anyone just wanna get some free points to the event?
Are you offering to carry people?
deft stump
Are you offering to carry people?
I'm gonna try soloing heresy warren to build a pile maybe.
Is japan server so spicier.
marble crater
What a carry
pale prairie
Is okie I go watch football
pale prairie
Violent arsenal fan confirmed
royal totem
Is japan server so spicier.
why japan server? 😮
pale prairie
Why is it spicier
strong gulch
ping
royal totem
ahh
asia actually supposedly has less ping for me than europe
which is....something
marble crater
The person from Asia has a lower ping to the server located in Asia? That's crazy
verbal thistle
thats scary
hearty wolf
Wtf is going on
xd
enemies tposing
fyign enemies
flying
moonwalking trapper
this circle is intriguing
what does it represent
strong gulch
D:
summer prairie
Any havoc?
hearty wolf
yes
deft stump
why japan server? 😮
Failed. 3 ping easier than 100. Cos I need to be alone.
I keep getting dropped into random parties.
And randos won't stay or farm, you know that. I just got an unlucky BoN into captain.
lethal folio
Thats the power matrix finale room
royal totem
Failed. 3 ping easier than 100. Cos I need to be alone.
damn 🙁
deft stump
Also, my button somehow got stuck blocking.
Can't attack or anything.
Till guard break.
zinc phoenix
kinetic flayer on melee is very fun
weak sapphire
Can soulblaze crit?
restive stag
soulblaze itself cannot
pine elk
What're good curios to use for Psyker? Toughness, stamina or health still worthwhile?
verbal thistle
stamina is very easily avoided because of psyker's stamina ecomany. Shortest delay + fastest regen speed + stamina related talents (warp ghost/kinetic reflection). Wounds are often just for learning the class's peril mechanic but are removed when you are more comfortable. Health does not get much value when compared to toughness (doesnt regen from talents, doesnt scale with some forms of damage reduction)
so long story short
3 toughness curio
@pine elk
royal totem
Till guard break.
to solve that try switching weapons i think? it works for me most of the time
strong gulch
so many
hearty wolf
xd
summer prairie
I could just sit there forever shooting at that door
hearty wolf
I wanted to move up eventually but like
summer prairie
and it wouldn't stop spawning
hearty wolf
That was way too much
We'd need four there to make any progress and even then
dome/smoke nades
deft stump
to solve that try switching weapons i think? it works for me most of the time
I know, Sut sent.
strong gulch
overstocked
Someone stuffed that closet full and specials just spilled out.
hearty wolf
Director was on some cocaine for that
Spend 95% of the game reloading 😭
Gonna need to grab a bolt pistol
royal totem
I know, Sut sent.
Ah im late then. Srry Karien 🙏
rich spindle
There’s something to be said about 3 wounds if you’re going trauma bubble
marble crater
Yeah, it's not ideal
merry meteor
Is death from soulblaze considered as "warp attack kill"?
verbal thistle
yes
zinc phoenix
strange, but ok
its literally burning souls, thats hella warp shit
tall solar
Hey does anyone know the max DPS attack combo for the force staff bash attackset
marble crater
Brand new sentence
tall solar
Brand new sentence
well how else am i gonna program my skitarius macro
if im gonna use the worst melee option ever
im sure as hell using skitarius with it
does skitarius even support long-press specs
i might have found the one thing skitarius doesnt let you do
tall solar
it might be possible actually
what'
sthe uh
fastests wap time psyker melee
i can confirm you can swapcancel the first swing of the heavy bash combo and its faster than just waiting for the combo to reset
so yes
you can
tall solar
That's the skitarius combo to go for lol
does skitarius support
long press specials?
i dont think it does
rich spindle
Yeah, it's not ideal
Let he who has not popped cast the first stone
tall solar
becase why would you need to
graceful arch
long press specials?
No fucking clue
marble crater
Let he who has not popped cast the first stone
tall solar
damnit skitarius doesnt work with staff bashing
i have to manually micro my bashes
ok it does work but not for combos
marble crater
Oh no, however will you make staff bashes not viable now? 
tall solar
Oh no, however will you make staff bashes not viable now? <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718...
by my own skill (or more poignantly, lack thereof) and intelect (or, as previously mentioned, lack thereof)
opaque tulip
I’ve created a psyker loadout that is just an endless pain matrix in the meat grinder lol
tall solar
I’ve created a psyker loadout that is just an endless pain matrix in the meat gr...
what does
endless pain matrix
entail
marble crater
Smite, probably
opaque tulip
The elites and specialists in the meat grinder just keep dying and setting eachother on fire
:3
I don’t have to do anything now they just die for me :3
modest perch
indeed
rich spindle
Inshallah they will nerf perilous combustion
opaque tulip
Now to penance hunt because psyker penances are a pain my ass
How easy is the “going out with a bang” penance to do?
modest perch
easy
marble crater
Which is that
tall solar
thats uh
opaque tulip
Shocking that I’ve never gotten it XD
marble crater
The better your team is, the harder that penance is
opaque tulip
Suipsyker? No clue. It’s the one where you use perils of warp explosion to kill an elite
tall solar
DID YOU KNOW
if you
hit the shield of a crusher with a melee attack
and you have the Charged Strike talent
it applies the electrical DOT
even if it does 0 damage and the attack visibly bounces
this is useless
but it is there
opaque tulip
Where is charged strike? Been meaning to see about tweaking my melee loadout but I cannae find it Dx
marble crater
It's an add on for smite
tall solar
Where is charged strike? Been meaning to see about tweaking my melee loadout but...
oh it's a smite subnode
opaque tulip
Oh!
ripe obsidian
<@230796342165897226>
Why was I pingèd
opaque tulip
Okay well then I am ditching assail for smite then
ripe obsidian
Okay well then I am ditching assail for smite then
:(
tall solar
Okay well then I am ditching assail for smite then
as long as you dont W+M1 it
marble crater
Why was I pingèd
I think he wanted to kiss you
ripe obsidian
With what?
ripe obsidian
Nice.
ripe obsidian
Only 4899 more hits to kill an H40 crusher
patent mango
hey guys 2 damage
im just saying this can still get 1 nerf
tall solar
Only 4899 more hits to kill an H40 crusher
its fine most of my damage comes from the Charged Strikes DOT
opaque tulip
as long as you dont W+M1 it
Wdym?
graceful arch
Only 4899 more hits to kill an H40 crusher
You can kill them with kinetic flare and soul blaze stacks....
tall solar
M1
graceful arch
In like half a year less time
strong gulch
i ain't watching that
tall solar
its the 10 second joke
opaque tulip
I respectfully have to disagree with this bloke.
tall solar
I respectfully have to disagree with this bloke.
smite has good uses
ripe obsidian
You can kill them with kinetic flare and soul blaze stacks....
I was just talking about the base staff bash
opaque tulip
Trapping an entire horde with smite letting my team focus down the essential targets is amazing
bright summit
Shock mine moment
opaque tulip
Plus the extra damage node that it gets is wonderful :>
ripe obsidian
Smite does not do very much damage
bright summit
Smite is good because you can juggle poxburster into your team
ripe obsidian
Korrekt
bright summit
The prank value
ripe obsidian
Or let go of smite before it stuns the overheading crusher
Trick your teammate into thinking they're safe
tall solar
Plus the extra damage node that it gets is wonderful :>
i mean it increases the damage of my staff bash build by like
300%
marble crater
i ain't watching that
Why not
bright summit
Trick your teammate into thinking they're safe
Taking smite into a havoc to lower their expectations of you and then you ball out on scriers ek and they get pleasantly surprised
strong gulch
Why not <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
😭
tall solar
which sounds impressive if i dont tell you that's also 80 DPS
ripe obsidian
Taking smite into a havoc to lower their expectations of you and then you ball o...
I took a risk on an EK smite person the other day.
They did not EK
tall solar
does anyone know if the damage stat of your force staff
impacts the power of staff bashes
opaque tulip
I mostly use it for crowd control
tall solar
i only have a bunch of really shitty staves
strong gulch
Yeah. Had someone switch to psyker and aggressively used smite earlier in havocs.
tall solar
ok so vs a normal one
marble crater
tall solar
normal guy
bright summit
Run and kill enemies faster than they can smite
tall solar
15% electro staff
light bash
chest
is 40 damage
my 38% staff
is also 40 damage
lol lmao
marble crater
"Aggressively used smite"
"No, plwease stay away and don't hwurt me pwease"
bright summit
I took a risk on an EK smite person the other day.
Also I like how your guide notes my DDs build as something that's very m1 assail focused(true) and I know the bug about m2 and the enemy HP buffs make M2 way worse but like I don't care I slide charge the m2 all day
Even on m1 builds
ripe obsidian
M2/RMB is still fun. Just needs to be fixed
plucky flax
Played a round with sin earlier. The bubble burga guy had least damage. 
Proof bubble is OP.
strong gulch
sry it was me
bright summit
The utility is still very good you just don't get big numbers
strong gulch
i am low damage pilled
plucky flax
Well I was already on inferno shriek and not many ppl requested to join so I took this psyker. I asked if he could play another build cos I didn't want to double up inferno so he said "I can smite"
So I was like nah I'll switch class you stay 
strong gulch
VB is right there.
marble crater
I wish VB could destroy rashuns with a blast
plucky flax
If his immediate thought of 2nd psyker build is smite then I wouldn't trust him on trauma.
bright summit
Its EK THE ANSWER IS EK
white valley
EK more like crap
tall solar
what about
staff bash
i have a build
its not a good build
its dysfunctional and doesnt work
but its a build
opaque tulip
EK?
white valley
https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-4169442390448293969
it's not very good in havoc 😛
tall solar
local psyker hits you with stick
bright summit
Yeah ek is bad and underpowered I think psyker needs more buffs
plucky flax
It's not bad with surge surge.
bright summit
it's not very good in havoc 😛
Yeah it really doesn't do damage on havocs
Why would anybody play ek
opaque tulip
What the heck is EK?
pale prairie
it's not very good in havoc 😛
lone ravine
What the heck is EK?
electric staff
opaque tulip
Oh!
pale prairie
What the heck is EK?
Electro kinetic staff
patent mango
quick tip if you upgrade all stats to 100% thats the real meta build
patent mango
free if you do the brunt rescue mission
bright summit
I don't own the game
patent mango
yeah that makes it a bit harderr
opaque tulip
Does the inferno staff generate stacks of soulblaze or is it just regular blue fire?
marble crater
Blue fire is soulblaze, inferno applies it
opaque tulip
Thanks! ^w^
Now to make a silly combo build of soulblaze shenanigans coupled with empowered psionics and brain burst :3
wind wind
Home from work at last.... Now, to wind down, do i
Play a little minecraft
Suffer a bit with psyker
Or continue my poland playthrough on medieval II
???
The important questions 🤔 🤣
tall solar
Home from work at last.... Now, to wind down, do i
Play a little minecraft
Su...
do staffbash build no balls
wind wind
What is that?
opaque tulip
Staff bash
merry meteor
mmm Does Deflector bless stop all range attacks? Somehow snipers still manage to down me through block
also what about the new dudes, with plasma?
jaunty summit
Question, does the keystone Psychic leeching under Empowered Psionics proc with Kinetic Flayer?
ripe obsidian
mmm Does Deflector bless stop all range attacks? Somehow snipers still manage to...
Ranged attacks in front of you only. Not special projectiles. Yes plasma gunner.
ripe obsidian
Question, does the keystone Psychic leeching under Empowered Psionics proc with ...
Check Kuli's mechanics guide in the pins. He's usually good about noting that kind of interaction
jaunty summit
Check Kuli's mechanics guide in the pins. He's usually good about noting that ki...
thank you
ill take a look
merry meteor
Ranged attacks in front of you only. Not special projectiles. Yes plasma gunner.
Are they still not considered gunners btw? Mb we should report it as a bug lol?
plasma I mean
plucky flax
Home from work at last.... Now, to wind down, do i
Play a little minecraft
Su...
Go to bed early like an old man 
ripe obsidian
Are they still not considered gunners btw? Mb we should report it as a bug lol?
In regards to damage resist curios? No, they're not coded as gunners, and the curios only affect gunners and reapers afaik
wind wind
Go to bed early like an old man <:PeepoHappy:402867832175460363> <:bedge:1055245...
I am (nearly) 27 (next week wednesday)
I am not so that frail (yet)
I have at least two more hours in me
merry meteor
In regards to damage resist curios? No, they're not coded as gunners, and the cu...
But they are still elites, at least?
wind wind
I am old and frail. <a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
"when my time comes around, lay me gently in the cold, dark earth" 🎵🎶
hearty wolf
Yeah. Had someone switch to psyker and aggressively used smite earlier in havocs...
:notlikethis:
buoyant maple
But they are still elites, at least?
Plasma gunners are elites but are not classed as “gunner” for the curio resistance
There is no DR effect specifically against them
opaque tulip
Whack
marble crater
Why do I play worse with these so called permanent "buffs" from stims?
Two blue stims and my muscle memory for dodging is completely fucked
jovial juniper
Yeah you answered that
jovial juniper
"The syringes of Recover have made your body super awesome"
tall solar
it might be useless for damage
thorn cedar
pretty fun event
tall solar
but its a nice mix-in stagger tool
since you dont have to swap to your
melee weapon
to use it
and it comes out fast
and has good stagger
very quick animations on the light attack
young cliff
geezus ppl how you folks keep yourself wake up when you are actually playing smite? had a game as other player and amost felt asleep becuase of it
strong gulch
pretty fun event
I just like picking up the snacks
jovial juniper
geezus ppl how you folks keep yourself wake up when you are actually playing smi...
Loud music
hearty wolf
Why was I pingèd
oh hi :)
marble crater
strong gulch
I ate too much candy and my tummy hurts.
acoustic jacinth
I ate too much candy and my tummy hurts.
water and sleep.
just uh
careful not to frow up
strong gulch
mostly that last one
marble crater
Eat more candy
marble crater
Eat candy until you become the candy man
acoustic jacinth
the porcelain throne will feel this one
daring hinge
Eat a full diner to balance it
strong gulch
no too full
winged creek
ogryn doctor said try sum rashuns
ripe obsidian
Rashuns? Thought we was s'posed tah destroy 'em now
winged creek
ogryn doctor said they taste funny but still gud eatin, err but probably should destroy them, nurgle blight taint no joke
ripe obsidian
I've eaten tougher. Ain't nuthin' Puny Beepus's teeth can't crunch
full storm
Hi, somebody could share with me what nodes would you use if you want to use, dueling sword, elektro staff and shards? there are so many nodes I feel like I left stuff out and would like to see others ppl pathing
marble crater
There are a lot of builds you can take a look at in the pins
radiant frigate
i see no world in which that weapon/blitz setup goes without shriek
marble crater
What you are trying to do is also very light on horde clear, might want to change either the staff or melee to something that's not single target focused
full storm
I see, on my way
weary idol
Hi, somebody could share with me what nodes would you use if you want to use, du...
shards will not give you any substantial value on staff builds
radiant frigate
also that yeah
weary idol
shards are a replacement for staff not a tool that goes alongside them
radiant frigate
spend peril to throw shards or just spend peril to cast instead
unless you have inferno they don't really do anything different, and if you do have inferno, then they still overlap too much and you're better off picking headsplosion
full storm
I see I see, taking notes
Also gaze makes me to avoid exploding right? Like can I use it when Im at 100% and it will work like the bust ability?
radiant frigate
Yes
long saddle
warp unbound lets you use unlimited peril for 10s after as well
ripe obsidian
shards will not give you any substantial value on staff builds
Except Voidstrike.
radiant frigate
Except Voidstrike.
i am going to disagree here
if it is small enough to be dealt with by assail then it is small enough to be dealt with by smol bolts
ripe obsidian
i am going to disagree here
Assail has better cleave and homing
Much better for hordes
radiant frigate
unless of course you just want to paint a vague direction and say "whatever, go my assail" in which case go ham
ripe obsidian
unless of course you just want to paint a vague direction and say "whatever, go ...
Yes.
marble crater
Using voidstrike
ripe obsidian
Also Assail requires fewer points than BB+KF to be useful, and smite is smite
radiant frigate
yes assail is better for hordes but that is more a case for big bowling ball and/or your melee
ripe obsidian
So not really any reason not to pick Assail
Voidstrike is basically built like a gunker anyway
It's just a worse plasma gun with no ammo
radiant frigate
gun psyker minus ranged boss damage and plus funky doubleshots
ripe obsidian
A worse gunker, yes
radiant frigate
Yes
been there done that but it was a power trip to onetap a crusher with a surged up doubleshot
radiant frigate
maybe if you stack up everything
high stack SG, high peril, perfectionism, warp rider, malefic momentum
and a crit to the noggin
it's a definite maybe
radiant frigate
yeah that does sound unlikely
pale narwhal
Is this normal that my shards implode people now ? Or I'm just sick 😭
Or it's an event thing
radiant frigate
elaborate
pale narwhal
When I use my shards, some of them implode and push me and my teamates away when they are close
That's new
radiant frigate
enemies with noggin tentacles explode on ranged hit
marble crater
Event
pale narwhal
Oooh
radiant frigate
so yes event modifier
ripe obsidian
When I use my shards, some of them implode and push me and my teamates away when...
Cranial Corruption modifier
marble crater
I for sure didn't get yeeted off the map because of it earlier
pale narwhal
I see now thanks lol
marble crater
(I didn't know bombers can have it)
strong gulch
(I didn't know bombers can have it)
bursters too
when KF worked on them
and someone did a PA
lol
marble crater
But they already explode
strong gulch
Ye but when you're trying to get them away but boom instead
oh wait that wasn't KF that time
marble crater
That's not my problem, sucks for the people standing next to them though
strong gulch
it was just PA on force sword
pale narwhal
Lol
radiant frigate
suspiciously specific
full storm
If I use elektro staff should I use this node? or this one is only viable with the flame staff?
leaden wind
I have it selected
long saddle
emphatic evasion is always good
full storm
Ok nice
strong gulch
If I use elektro staff should I use this node? or this one is only viable with t...
You can use it on any staff taking warp nexus (of course right side builds).
However, keep in mind that EE does better when something crits in quick succession. So slower hitting attacks will have a lot of down time comparatively (and that's assuming every hit crits which is not realistic). So if you are in a situation where you would really benefit form EE, LMB/ M1 spam is the go to.
But in some situations, RMB/ M2 will still be better.
EE is good but is more situational on non-LMB spam EK and VB builds.
marble crater
I don't pick EE
full storm
You can use it on any staff taking warp nexus (of course right side builds).
Ho...
Can the shards crit?
strong gulch
Can the shards crit?
yes
full storm
Lovely, thanks
long wharf
I don't pick EE <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
truly troll behavior
marble crater
It's only trolling if I lose games because of it
ripe obsidian
I don't pick EE <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Heathen.
leaden wind
It's only trolling if I lose games because of it
Based
long wharf
I don't know why you wouldn't take EE
ripe obsidian
Masochism
long wharf
it's easily the best survivability node in the entire tree
long wharf
Masochism
masochism is when you do it to others
sadomasochism is when you do it to yourself
marble crater
I don't know why you wouldn't take EE
I have a working dodge button
long wharf
I fail to see the relevance of that statement
marble crater
See, if you dodge, you don't need a talent that makes you count as dodging
strong gulch
If you get in shooters range and can suppress them, EE less needed.
ripe obsidian
masochism is when you do it to others
Sadism is doing it to others.
long wharf
Sadism is doing it to others.
it appears you are right, I learned something new today
long wharf
a curious representation of the body of your knowledge
marble crater
Very sus
ripe obsidian
I contain multitudes
long wharf
but are you legion?
marble crater
bodies?
long wharf
he means he's required to buy multiple airline seats just for himself
ripe obsidian
That's just me wanting to lie down across the whole row
long wharf
fair enough
royal totem
i buy two rows of airline seats so the people in front of me can't recline 😛 (this is a joke)
pallid stump
the smyker is entering my body
because i am sick of getting shit teammates
im not too good but still
leaden wind
I’m being called to the dark side as well brother
Hold strong against the temptations of warp sibling
hearty wolf
friends?
orchid shadow
Huh, haven't seen this bug before. Anyone ever get the bug where they inject a Stim, but it acts like the wrong one, and becomes.. permanent for the rest of the run?
lone ravine
event stuff
we recovered more than 50% of rations claimed yesterday
so stims got a buff
orchid shadow
Really? I injected a Combat stim, and it acted like a Celerity stim that stayed for the rest of the mission
leaden wind
Not with a stim, but after I used a medicaid station I gained god mode
Couldn’t take any damage
orchid shadow
It was like I had the old quell cancel and I missed it soooo much.
ripe obsidian
because i am sick of getting shit teammates
I get it
Is why I play shock mine Arby
pallid stump
the EK staff isnt being enough to contain my dark side
ripe obsidian
Huh, haven't seen this bug before. Anyone ever get the bug where they inject a ...
Is the event, no?
orchid shadow
so stims got a buff
So perma-wrong stim was.. intentional? That's wild if true
ripe obsidian
Shock mine allows you to play the game while CCing
ripe obsidian
So perma-wrong stim was.. intentional? That's wild if true
Acolytes!
Yesterday you all ventured into Tertium to seek and deal with the Stolen Rations! Some of you recovered these prized goods, others destroyed them in fear of Nurgle’s followers having tampered and blighted them (Or just because you wanted to upset the Ogryns).
After tallying up all the numbers, most of you chose to recover them! (6,058,832 rations recovered vs 2,234,866 rations destroyed!)
Unfortunately the rations were indeed blighted, and **we’re seeing reports of increased numbers of enraged Mutants, plagued Ogryns, and infected members of the Moebian 21st. **Although it seems that for those who are still among us, the stimms found in missions are having additional effects…
For the duration of the event, we will continue to tally up the result of the previous day’s Recover vs Destroy decision the community makes, and you’ll see the consequences of these actions reflected in the following day’s modifiers. Make your choice!
lone ravine
"Although it seems that for those who are still among us, the stimms found in missions are having additional effects…"
ripe obsidian
Did not mean to copy the announcement @ as well
lone ravine
orchid shadow
Oh. My. God. That's awesome. And my teammates are always passing up stims. I'm gonna be such a junkie
ripe obsidian
I hope it didn't actually ping people.
orchid shadow
Is that only on the specific event maps? Or any mission?
ripe obsidian
Not sure
bright summit
Shock mine allows you to play the game while CCing
It also hard counters every single havoc modifier if you play shockmine dogless charge
lone ravine
Is that only on the specific event maps? Or any mission?
im assuming any mission with the modifier
just like how pox gas spawns a bajillion green stims
bright summit
Arby didn't actually get nerfed the defensive safety bits of the class got buffed with how havoc is these days
viscid matrix
# Acolytes!
Yesterday you all ventured into Tertium to seek and deal with the S...
In future use the forward feature
marble crater
I hope it didn't actually ping people.
Don't think so, if you could ping the entire server that would be a big oversights by the mods and staff
candid temple
CC is god.
ripe obsidian
In future use the forward feature
Yeahhhh, I wasn't thinking
long wharf
I'm convinced the only reason so many were recovered is because of people duping their recovery rewards
ripe obsidian
It also hard counters every single havoc modifier if you play shockmine dogless ...
It is true. My issue is that I don't do much damage with that build. Is a me problem, I am sure. I mostly just try to position between the enemies and the Psyker
long wharf
before enough people could dupe the destroy rewards 🙂
long wharf
Havoc doesn't need even more bosses
ripe obsidian
Or maybe it does
long wharf
not really
there are enough bosses in havoc 30+ that even bringing dedicated boss kill can easily be swarmed
ripe obsidian
That's mostly lack of coordination and bad positioning
long wharf
not always
we had a good example last night of the AI director just saying "no, you'sa gonna die now"
on that very first bridge
long wharf
yup
strong gulch
Had a door just continuously spit out multiple specials at once nonstop in havoc earlier
game was on some bull
candid temple
they might've been traversing from another area.
verbal thistle
probably a surge
a respawning one
common in havoc
unlucky if you are next to a door/spawner
bright summit
It is true. My issue is that I don't do much damage with that build. Is a me pro...
Frontliner isn't easy to learn in sure you'll get it soon enough though
verbal thistle
Frontlining is pretty difficulty to get
it is very important
comes with time and alot of game knowledge
verbal thistle
yes
I understand what spawns and triggers
so I stand in front
and I know how agro dropping works
bright summit
There's a ton to think about esp when your backliners lack safety tools and that's what also makes it fun to me
brittle berry
does assail blades have a longer range than brain rapture?
if not i´m changing em, were fun on ez mode but not so much on heressy
verbal thistle
no
long wharf
nope
brittle berry
oof
verbal thistle
they disappear before they travel far
long wharf
it's far enough to let you get to the back of a crowded room or hallway
but too short to do real sniping with
long wharf
the assail upgrade nodes need more oomph
brittle berry
i also changed my secondary to get crowd control, going with the inferno staff
bright summit
Path to the cleave node below attack speed
brittle berry
the assail upgrade nodes need more oomph
you get to pierce 3 enemies, instead of 2!
long wharf
like have one increase recharge speed and extend your aiming range and the shard lifetime
throwing aimed shards doesn't do enough increased damage over normal shard throws, IMO
brittle berry
yeah not worth the extra peril it costs to aim
long wharf
shards already do crap to flak and nothing to carapace
I love shards, but they need some love
long wharf
the best way to use them currently is to abuse weapon swapping so the shards cause bleeding
I want to be able to specialize in throwing shards
I'd spend entire missions only throwing shards, if I could
brittle berry
the best way to use them currently is to abuse weapon swapping so the shards cau...
bl2 Salvador strats 😭
long wharf
indeed
brittle berry
I'd spend entire missions only throwing shards, if I could
lit what i used to do in the lowest difficulty setting
long wharf
aimed shards ought to have double the lifetime and cleave of normal shard tosses
tulip kettle
The best way to use them currently is to build peril when my FGS sword slash is building charge that I don't want to waste early Vs a horde
And to build peril when I'm shooting things with gun
And to proc MM
long wharf
I love the FGS, but it also needs a little tweaking
tulip kettle
NO YOU SHUT UP
long wharf
I'd get rid of the charge meter entirely
tulip kettle
It's perfect
long wharf
and have it spend peril to warp slice attack
marble crater
They should switch the movesets of the FGS marks and not tell anyone
long wharf
It's perfect
sadly no, it also suffers the same problem assail does
tulip kettle
Wrong and incorrect
long wharf
it just has a higher ceiling than assail
tulip kettle
Also man just said spend peril to warp slice
If you mean what it does currently, okay?
tulip kettle
If you mean quells, lol. Lmao even
long wharf
spend peril
I want peril to be an ability currency the psyker plays with
I know that's not the current design, but I disagree with the current design, and have since release
tulip kettle
It is? It just works the other, lore friendly way
long wharf
I'd keep Perils of the Warp, and have different psyker abilities spend peril to ramp up ability damage/performance
tulip kettle
You have 100 points to spend, and doing warp actions spends those points
That's how peril works
I think you are trolling sir
long wharf
yes, but the points you generate currently don't affect what you're using to generate it
that's the difference
only Warp Siphon gives you a scaling benefit on peril quelled
Quietude as well, I suppose, technically
keep 'static' generators (abilities that generate a set amount of peril when used), add in dynamic spenders
SG has turned into the most ridiculously designed ability in the game, for character mechanics
it saves you from PotW immediately, it directly boosts damage, it can boost your speed, it can even prevent PotW and maintain all buffs for 10 after
absolutely brain-dead design
oh, and now it boosts survivability directly, as well
there's zero tradeoff
just pop it as often as you can
tulip kettle
Ok that's what we have it's just in reversed orientation from what you want, which is for peril to do the opposite of what it does in the lore
bright summit
SG has turned into the most ridiculously designed ability in the game, for chara...
And yet somehow shriek is still better, what a world
verbal thistle
Gaze is a mistake
graceful arch
it's better for *one build*
It's better for most staffs.
verbal thistle
buff after buff after buff after buff
bright summit
Gaze is a mistake
This too
long wharf
absolutely a mistake, 100% agreed
verbal thistle
warp unbound make the problem worse aswell
bright summit
It didn't need the quell 50% idk the design sucks
long wharf
10 seconds of max peril consequence free is absolutely stupid
SG didn't need 3/4 of the buffs added to it
long wharf
I didn't like it when it was introduced
verbal thistle
yippee
long wharf
it's obnoxious now
tulip kettle
Gaze is a mistake is the take of people who think the game needs to be harder and intentionally nerf themselves when playing
long wharf
I'm not arguing about how hard the game should be
I'm arguing about game design
how different mechanics work together to create player game experience
and SG violates every limitation built into the psyker design
bright summit
literally all builds can just take gaze can be better
Can't speak on other builds for not for ek into havocd
bright summit
I play Scriers ek it's very sad
bright summit
Lol I've made a build like that
verbal thistle
takes more skill but can do more
and still can take all gaze buffs
unlike taking shriek
white valley
and SG violates every limitation built into the psyker design
Does it? The best way to use it is to repeatedly kill to quell so you don't reach 100%
bright summit
Possibly but assail struggles into density and assail doesn't do well into armor
long wharf
Does it? The best way to use it is to repeatedly kill to quell so you don't reac...
you're killing anyways
you're literally rewarded for what you were going to do anyways
tulip kettle
So is every fucking class dude wtf
white valley
Sure, but SG generating peril while you quell it is a good feedback loop
tulip kettle
That's how the game works
long wharf
it's far too easy to keep SG up
white valley
It's also meant to be the gunker/meleeker ability so you can make use of the class mechanic (peril) without a staff
long wharf
especially considering everything it's doing
there are far more interesting ideas for using the warp with melee and ranged
white valley
It might be overtuned atm, but I don't think it's fundamentally broken
long wharf
it's terrible design
white valley
I fail to see how
long wharf
look people, this isn't a difficult concept
tulip kettle
long wharf
there's a difference between something breaking the game (balance) and something that violates the core concept of a system of mechanics (design)
long wharf
of course
tulip kettle
My opinions are factual statements and you must agree
My vision for the design of the game is objectively correct
white valley
How does SG violate the core concept of psyker's mechanics?
tulip kettle
If you want to say SG is overturned, fine
bright summit
So is everything about psyker though it's the strongest class for a reason
tulip kettle
But it's designed in line with psykers mechanics and fills a much needed gap in ability space
white valley
SG generates peril and rewards you for lowering it to maintain it, it interacts with multiple talents, Quietude, Warp Rider, By Crack of Bone, OwtW, TTS
hearty wolf
I lost some brain cells reading this
white valley
Or is your issue the Warp Unbound subnode?
candid temple
tulip kettle
I would hazard a guess that warp unbound on consoles without mods is not picked much
white valley
I mean is it even picked that much on pc even with mods?
tulip kettle
Yeah
white valley
On what builds? Soulblaze builds have shriek
tulip kettle
WU is what makes SG worth using over shriek on a lot of builds
candid temple
Is there a mod that lets me put certain buff icon w/duration, as big fucking icons in the center of my screen?
tulip kettle
Yes
candid temple
tulip kettle
Depends what you're trying to achieve
verbal thistle
Is there a mod that lets me put certain buff icon w/duration, as big fucking ico...
custom hud and/or better buff management
rancid jasper
I would hazard a guess that warp unbound on consoles without mods is not picked ...
Why do mods matter for warp unbound
verbal thistle
warp unbound timer
long wharf
I go purely by my subjective sense of time in the moment
verbal thistle
same
long wharf
got in your face and everything
verbal thistle
puts hand on shoulder "are you okay little man?"
candid temple
I go purely by my subjective sense of time in the moment
can't relate, temporal instability in my brain doesn't allow me to do that.
rancid jasper
warp unbound timer
Oh you mean the buff that tells you how long it has left
Don't need a seperate timer mod for that
verbal thistle
Oh you mean the buff that tells you how long it has left
if they havent fixed it yet but buff bar does have a limit on how many buffs + its easier on the eyes to see a timer then a tiny filled in square on a red background
tulip kettle
It also makes a distinct sound when it's ending
verbal thistle
that too
tulip kettle
But like ainz said, these things can be hard to track in tense situations
Big timer easy
rancid jasper
if they havent fixed it yet but buff bar does have a limit on how many buffs + i...
I js use better buff bar and put it near the middle of my screen
white valley
reject SG, embrace bubble
tulip kettle
Good luck looking for one tiny buff in a list or hearing the noise over the sounds of heretics
verbal thistle
I js use better buff bar and put it near the middle of my screen
okay
rancid jasper
reject SG, embrace bubble
No, no bubble
Enervating threshold 
white valley
No, no bubble
Enervating threshold <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
hell naw
tulip kettle
And right so if you're already using mods, why go through complicated process to get less effective indicator. It's w/e man you do you. My point was without mods support warp unbound can be very hard to use and actively get you killed
rancid jasper
And right so if you're already using mods, why go through complicated process to...
I'm not disagreeing with you
hearty wolf
Everyone so angry lately :(
rain wren
Everyone so angry lately :(
They don't like supporting the ogryns
ripe obsidian
Frontliner isn't easy to learn in sure you'll get it soon enough though
I mean, I can do H40 as Arby without too much trouble. My damage output is just not very good.
Can't as Ogryn
Something about the movement of Ogryn doesn't click for me. Can only do decently with the shield
empty pivot
are you supposed to take crystaline will dmg when cleansing peril with Active abilities?
ripe obsidian
Everyone so angry lately :(
Turn that :( into >:(
ripe obsidian
are you supposed to take crystaline will dmg when cleansing peril with Active ab...
Crystalline Will is... difficult to justify in many builds.
ripe obsidian
I dunno, after I eat dinner
hearty wolf
kay
ripe obsidian
Just put it in the oven
hearty wolf
I will prepare
I think Need For Speed will be a good warm up
both games are about going fast
white valley
Something about the movement of Ogryn doesn't click for me. Can only do decently...
Ogryn has worse toughness regen than arbitrator outside of melee range, and is bigger
ranged enemies hurt
plus it's easy to fit a shield into an arbitrator build
restive slate
Hence why Ogryn needs a GG with Shield variant
white valley
true and real
long wharf
Ogryn should be able to pair any of its 1h melee weapons with a shield
kind jay
need a wrestler spec where they can throw poxwalkers and suplex crushers
kind jay
Big Friendly Zealot
white valley
Poor zealots
ripe obsidian
I need to make a new Ogryn shield build and see if I can survive Havoc
Zealot is easy enough, I just feel like I do no damage when using book. Veteran is hard, as I am often in the think of things with worse toughness regen than any other class.
white valley
Zealot sure feels like the weakest of the 5 atm
white valley
I need to make a new Ogryn shield build and see if I can survive Havoc
The old build still works
Taunt shieldgryn with heavy hitter, skullcrusher on the shield
And batter, batter is important
long wharf
Ogryns absolutely should be able to pick up any enemy smaller than them and just chuck them across the room
mutant style
they should also be able to knock poxhounds off after a couple seconds
graceful arch
Zealot feels kind of odd atm
long wharf
give the ogryn "battle gauntlets" and let them go empty handed into the crowd
swinging enemies like baseball bats
really give players the "I'm the biggest thing in this room" experience
white valley
Zealot feels kind of odd atm
Zealot be like I am good in melee but so is everyone else if they spec for it
ripe obsidian
I opened my oven and took 1d4 fire damage from the fucking wave of steam
graceful arch
Zealot not really having a good carapace cracker weapon outside of ds also sucks real bad.
long wharf
you're not supposed to stick your head into the oven
restive slate
Only thing Zealot is unique for is the ability to one shot some bosses with Stealth
ripe obsidian
The old build still works
I don't have an old build. Well, old as in, pre rework, so months or even years ago.
long wharf
especially not immediately after opening the door
restive slate
you're not supposed to stick your head into the oven
Which head?
long wharf
Which head?
either choice leads to a bad day
ripe obsidian
especially not immediately after opening the door
I haven't slept in like 48 hours and my wisdom is like a -1 modifier at the best of times
long wharf
sux2bu
white valley
Zealot not really having a good carapace cracker weapon outside of ds also sucks...
Aye relic blade and chain weapons could be a bit better against crushers
orchid shadow
Ogryns absolutely should be able to pick up any enemy smaller than them and just...
They should be able to do that with other players too. 😛
long wharf
They should be able to do that with other players too. 😛
I completely agree
an Ogryn throwing the zealot past the crowd to deal with other things would be epic
ripe obsidian
I would pay for a DLC Ogryn power fist that had a special attack to pick up and hurl the nearest non-elite enemy.
verbal thistle
Zealot not really having a good carapace cracker weapon outside of ds also sucks...
what
relic blade, evis and chaxe with shredder, knife, hammer
thats like 60% of weapons
Combat axe can get decent
unsure if it fits the bill though
graceful arch
Still feels nowhere as good as the other classes.
Like Deimos can 2 tap crushers. So can power sword.
verbal thistle
hammer can in 1, knife can in 2
graceful arch
Riposte precog knife?
Or is it just precog uncanny?
Idk I just don't have fun with current zealot
ripe obsidian
relic blade, evis and chaxe with shredder, knife, hammer
Which chain axe? XII? Does it feel like less of a baseball bat now?
graceful arch
I'm just a weirdo Ig.
verbal thistle
Which chain axe? XII? Does it feel like less of a baseball bat now?
the rip on heavy one
bright summit
Something about the movement of Ogryn doesn't click for me. Can only do decently...
Yeah it took a bit for me too
ripe obsidian
I think 12
verbal thistle
chaxe gets alot of power buffs
ripe obsidian
The one with horizontal lights, I think
verbal thistle
it has headtaker/slaughter/thrust
which can make it do great single target
add fury on it
and its insane
bright summit
12 is good I've seen a friend of mine pull ridiculous numbers with it
ripe obsidian
My reflexes aren't good enough to pull off ridiculous numbers in melee
@hearty wolf I exist.
restive stag
me when im bored so i have to tank crusher overheads
ripe obsidian
I am crushed, therefore I am
hearty wolf
who else exists
thorn cedar
exist for what
thorn cedar
are u ok
hearty wolf
no i had a stroke
thorn cedar
rip ur mind (no longer in motion)
tulip kettle
no i had a stroke
join
hearty wolf
how
tulip kettle
by logging into darktide
and joining the party
you open the social menu
and press buttons
pretty simple actually
hearty wolf
@strong gulch ?
graceful arch
you didnt delete system32
If you are on Linux you need to sudo rm -fr /* --no-preserve-root--
Dunno if that is the actual command I'm doing it off memory
graceful arch
If you are on Linux you need to sudo rm -fr /* --no-preserve-root--
Nvm I got the order wrong
hearty wolf
graceful arch
Do you have discord overlay on??
hearty wolf
🙄
tulip kettle
white sky
https://discord.gg/sQ9m5Tqr
Hey earlier you said you make cheese and I dont think i got to ask so what is your favorite general purpose cheese?
tulip kettle
general purpose gotta be a nice sharp english cheddar
i dont make it, but manchego is great for sauces and cooking
white sky
Manchego is on my list still tbh
Very hard to go wrong with a cheddar, lately I've been very into munster and havarti
graceful arch
How are the games going dom?
hearty wolf
Suspiciously
strong gulch
@ripe obsidian @tulip kettle @hearty wolf
hearty wolf
<@230796342165897226> <@453628860567650304> <@204065778167840769>
lmao
I saw it through the wall, didn't realise how fucked it was
graceful arch
<@230796342165897226> <@453628860567650304> <@204065778167840769>
What the??
Insta nurgle grabs are a thing now?
graceful arch
Never seen it lol
hearty wolf
Opportunist predator
Damn my stamina regen though 😭
I couldn't get the sword swing out fast enough
I spent all my stamina following the fucking twin lmao
junior linden
is ghost worth it on las pistol?
graceful arch
is ghost worth it on las pistol?
I thought las pistol ran infernus dumdum.
junior linden
ye thats why I was askin
graceful arch
Nah I don't think ghost is worth running
Especially on psyker who already has empathic evasion
paper harbor
junior linden
recently swapped to seer and ive been enjoying it so much
ripe obsidian
<@230796342165897226> <@453628860567650304> <@204065778167840769>
teamwork
tulip kettle
ripe obsidian
I need to not play on no sleep. My reaction times are even slower than usual
strong gulch
may sleep find you
rain wren
Lol
summer prairie
Infinite cleave lmb
zealous wing
summer prairie
Infinite cleave recon las should be good
fiery stratus
summer prairie
the rmb wouldn't be affected
ripe obsidian
Infinite cleave lmb
What is this?
ripe obsidian
Sounds silly
deft stump
so infinite cleave
It's passive, right?
summer prairie
yes, you don't need a stimm
deft stump
yes, you don't need a stimm
More, I'm tired of pubs fighting over stimms.
Is also why some are pushing for destroy, sounds like a more passive effect instead of teamfights over who gets more perma buffs.
zealous mango
<@230796342165897226> <@453628860567650304> <@204065778167840769>
man got team tagged so hard
junior linden
Whoops
fierce dew
fluid aspen
Oh piss, I haven't played in a while and all my trees are reset 
white valley
the good news is they're way better now
summer prairie
did one lmb surge surge infinite cleave auric, could probably run transfer peril OR blazing spirit
nevermind blazing spirit still sucks with infinite cleave
EK surge+transfer peril actually pretty good
radiant frigate
what exactly is this infinite cleave business about
summer prairie
the event maps have infinite ranged cleave when Destroy was ahead
fluid aspen
Does "Passive Quelling" only mean passive peril decay, or also things like By Crack of Bone?
marble crater
It's the quelling when you stand around not doing anything
fluid aspen
Cheers
Seems pretty useful with Warp Rider
Actually, what even is Toughness Replenishment 
Is it just the toughness you get from melee kills and coherence
marble crater
It's a nice talent, cancels out the bad side effect of Empyric Resolve, gave me 11% extra health, because I replaced my stamina curio and you don't need to fiddle with peril as much
marble crater
Is it just the toughness you get from melee kills and coherence
All toughness from everything
zealous wing
so much nicer to have to choose between things you really want, vs weighing what you need vs how many things you dont want you'd have to grab to get there
fluid aspen
Indeed
Empyric Resolve is a bit too far away for me sadly, it would also work nice with Scrier
long saddle
did one lmb surge surge infinite cleave auric, could probably run transfer peril...
is inf cleave just on the event maps?
summer prairie
yes
long saddle
aight, I'll give it a try later
summer prairie
cleaves through void shield too, not that the captain takes extra damage
hearty wolf
I
Just woke up from a dream
I was using a powersword
And I was fighting the hordes
And like, they never stopped coming
But I was having so much fun
white valley
Power sword? Fake psyker
zealous wing
sounds like someone not finishing the objective