yeah you did GREAT it wasnt a criticism
#psyker-class
tulip kettle
im just saying its very normal for me to be burning the big blob then stood there in their face pushing them away
ripe obsidian
If there's a vet with power sword or kraks, they usually win crusher DPS. Otherwise inferno + uncanny does, in my experience
Usually
strong gulch
I should have armored more maybe.
ripe obsidian
Power sword can still 2-shot crushers if you're good, I believe. Maybe 3. I am not good.
It's a pretty bonkers melee weapon
tulip kettle
ultimately when you are hitting 1 enemy at a time its never gonna compete with doing 700 (closer to 1000 with other buffs) per tick to 20 enemies at once
ripe obsidian
The difference is that the vet should be killing Crushers while inferno kills everything else
tulip kettle
i dont disagree
ripe obsidian
So if the team is working properly, vet should win crusher damage easily
strong gulch
I didn't get superiority to proc if KF killed the elite with sword in hand in the meat grinder. Could have just been a fluke.
ripe obsidian
I also had a power sword + plasma vet do 500k damage in a 40 minute game, so
tulip kettle
I didn't get superiority to proc if KF killed the elite with sword in hand in th...
hmmm
i think its probably still fine
ripe obsidian
I didn't get superiority to proc if KF killed the elite with sword in hand in th...
Huh, I don't think I had that issue
tulip kettle
as long as it procs from them actually burning
ripe obsidian
I can test again tomorrow
tulip kettle
which is how they mainly die
or if i just stab one that comes too close but isolated
summer prairie
DS4 can kill 12 crushers in around 25 seconds with max DD stacks, but you'll be dropping them if you are focusing on just crushers
sure if your crushers already have 31 stacks it's hard to beat, but if you start from 0 it's different
need some other elites mixed in
tulip kettle
i mean lets not start again, but we literally expereinced it together where there are 20+ rotten crushers with all the maulers and ragers mixed in
its not uncommon in current havoc
i wish it was
summer prairie
I just don't agree it's the best weapon in the game against crushers, just in specific situations
and I'm sure most people don't
tulip kettle
i think there is no weapon that can safely and efficiently kill this much armour as burning them then uncanny force sword pushing
i posted videos
i just posted a scoreboard from a lower lvl havoc with six in the game
summer prairie
don't need videos, not like we haven't all tried that in psykhanium
how does a scoreboard prove anything
tulip kettle
i dont know what else to say
summer prairie
I can post a scoreboard with 3m damage and 0 kills
tulip kettle
dude whatever im not engaging with this
zealous wing
fighting auric crushers in the psykanium, is not fighting rotten armour havoc crushers mixed with their mauler rager buddies and a horde and several bombers, trappers, hounds, flamers, snipers, in a very large area with a couple hallways/stairwells and mixed cover areas
zealous wing
i mean, fighting crushers with a DS
tulip kettle
it just dosnt matter
it literally doesnt
if you cant do 20000 dps with a sword its not going to compete
and you cant
so idk what else to say
im just not engaging with this discussion anymore
cold ivy
The answer to "what is the best weapon to kill X" depends on how many X you need to kill
tulip kettle
completely agreed
and when X is 30+ carapace armoured increased healthpool enemies while also staying safe
the answer is always inferno into uncanny force sword pushing
radiant frigate
If there's a vet with power sword or kraks, they usually win crusher DPS. Otherw...
speaking of, are improved kraks now necessary for crusher oneshots
cold ivy
yeah
summer prairie
not me
zealous wing
you surrre
cold ivy
also small digression about rotten armor: i hate the little farts they create on death, i feel like there's a specific distance where a crusher winding up an overhead to kill you is invisible through the green gas. maybe it's killing too many of them in the same spot that makes the gas more and more opaque? not 100% sure
tulip kettle
i hate the visual disturbancew
i love the ploosh sound
imposter syllo with the same TL
thats dedication
only plays when you do
zealous wing
funny when i just walk out of psyk and see one of you motherfuckers
summer prairie
ok you got me, it's me
zealous wing
or, check previous missions and see someone here
zealous wing
ok you got me, it's me
yeah no shit 
tulip kettle
would be cool if the mourningstar had more than like 20 people on it
would be awesome to see it actually full
zealous wing
a proper hub, ye
tulip kettle
i remember when division 2 came out and the safehouses had literally thousands of people in em
zealous wing
would be fun if they had what i saw SM2 has, a sparring room
tulip kettle
all with collision
zealous wing
i'd love to have a pvp mode, honestly, for friendly spars
tulip kettle
nah it would be pointless
tulip kettle
we just instagib each other
strong gulch
Y'all ever play fast food sim? I bet if we all played, it'd be a mess.
zealous wing
fuck you brunt
tulip kettle
why? seems like a gift
zealous wing
after i upgrade the revolver, waste money, NOW i get one
tulip kettle
oh i see
strong gulch
Lmao
tulip kettle
yeah hes just trolling you
zealous wing
like yeah thanks brunt, i hope youre dead wherever you left to
honestly though, i take that back
tulip kettle
WOAH
strong gulch
I was gonna say.
zealous wing
last i heard though was people saying he probably dead
strong gulch
Oh where the vid you talking about the traitor being shot and me posting a vid of the shooting?
zealous wing
you want the clip or you asking in general
tulip kettle
last i heard though was people saying he probably dead
gonna need the lore drop reasoning for this
zealous wing
my brain is... deepfried
zealous wing
gonna need the lore drop reasoning for this
no like, voicelines of the guards
the skyrim sounding two
white valley
off doing hive secundus things
Brunt is beating up genestealers probably
There is a memory fragment where we hear him kill one
Havoc genestealers when
zealous wing
maybe with second hive city
strong gulch
you want the clip or you asking in general
Both. Mostly the clip
zealous wing
strong gulch
Steal deez nutz?
zealous wing
timing of the song was still gold
strong gulch
That's the one lol.
strong gulch
Oh is it live now?
strong gulch
Angy oggy activate.
acoustic jacinth
RASHUNS
strong gulch
Syllo saw something about a possible event coming up in the code that was rations related.
Angry ogryn was in it. 
acoustic jacinth
Looks fun tbh
zealous wing
just had a plague ogryn spawn in the final fight for assassination mission... on heresy
the hell is going on
summer prairie
I think the angry ogryns is just the previous ogryn event, but maybe it only starts happening if you destroy rations or something
zealous wing
been collecting i think
so confused
yeah its event, but like
theres no tab for it
if its recover, or destroy, but the event says "recover or destroy xnumber rations" 10 times, why fucking bother with a difference?
summer prairie
zealous wing
and what does THAT mean
summer prairie
zealous wing
they cant be creative can they
well after relaunch, least it counted the mission i just did
strong gulch
Gimme your lunch money.
plucky flax
Kill all ogryns
summer prairie
If you recover you get ogryn enemies/bosses, if you destroy you get moebian hordes and renegade captains. Not sure how that works during a mission
strong gulch
Maybe tomorrow I bewilder frens with my oggy "skills".
summer prairie
maybe it's based on the global count
strong gulch
Glad monster health bars mod is working then
tulip kettle
gnight beans
summer prairie
daemonhosts (and other bosses) are guaranteed to spawn a medium ration on death, surely a reason to kill them
summer prairie
like plasteel I guess
small and medium pickup
it's probably just a currency essentially
I think it spawns a special horde after picking up 50 rations, boss/horde at 100 and "super boss" +horde at 350
strong gulch
This won't be oops all bonbons again will it?
summer prairie
"super boss" if recover is winning (?) on auric is just
destroy super boss is twins
but nothing else, maybe a horde
Didn't notice this in the buff that you get when you destroy rations
or when destroy is winning globally maybe
surge surge with infinite cleave sounds decent
deft stump
So what do you do when someone fucked up and left the freezer door open and everything defrosted and now you are going to eat all the blame for spoiling food when all you have been doing is either asleep or trying to do some weird shit in DT?
flat nexus
So what do you do when someone fucked up and left the freezer door open and ever...
blame them for damages and ask for compensation
deft stump
blame them for damages and ask for compensation
What if that person is your mom, and she's the one going to blame you for it all?
deft stump
a reskinned skull event of the past
It basically is. Just more pogryns than chaos spawns, it seems.
And a more annoying button to press to pick up the rations.
summer prairie
Players are supposed to get buffs but unclear when they get activated
dusk wren
i think they are going to do something depending on who wins out between destroyed or recovered
dusk wren
anyway, thunderhammer bros eating good
tulip kettle
recover seems t be winning by a huge margin right now
so many ogryn cosplayers apparently
deft stump
https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-it-wasnt-me-nope-no-gif-8085667
I was literally in bed when it happened. I woke up and found the area wet.
tulip kettle
yeah so just say that, i didnt do it, i didnt know anything about it, blame whoever did it not me
plucky flax
What if that person is your mom, and she's the one going to blame you for it all...
Fight your mum
tulip kettle
+1
vernal temple
well after relaunch, least it counted the mission i just did
Rashuns??? 
obtuse dome
Rashuns??? <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Rashuns!
fading patrol
What if that person is your mom, and she's the one going to blame you for it all...
Force majeure
Not me
If youre the first to found it (and get blamed for it) make strong emphasis that if you find an open fridge in the future you will leave it open and stay 50m away from it 
hearty wolf
zzz
tulip kettle
isnt that the league of legends anime?
hearty wolf
ye
tulip kettle
i would struggle to sleep after such a thing also
hearty wolf
It's actually really well written tbh
tulip kettle
existential dread
acoustic jacinth
I suggest elfen lied for a good night's sleep
tulip kettle
rashuns
acoustic jacinth
RASHUNNNNSS
tulip kettle
they are EVERYWHERE
acoustic jacinth
Gonna take ek psyker for the big boys
marble crater
So what does the event actually do?
tulip kettle
every special seems to drop em
acoustic jacinth
Oh man
tulip kettle
and other enemies too
when you pick up a certain amount you get a plogryn
its either recover or destroy
but recover is bound to "1" and destroy "2"
so i think most people pressing recover by default
marble crater
I guess I will have to play it to understand what's going on
tulip kettle
its literally just like
diamantine everywhere
that you press 1 or 2 to pick up or destroy
and when you pick up enough a plogryn spawns
marble crater
Who thought that was a good idea?
hearty wolf
looter shooter darktide
tulip kettle
idfk but its bad
hearty wolf
Bordertide
marble crater
I want to play the game and not run around picking up stuff, that was already annoying in the other event that had us pick stuff up
acoustic jacinth
Lmao
tulip kettle
many more were missed
marble crater
I wonder which buttons they are for controller and how much it sucks to pick stuff up
hearty wolf
Imagine it's like
tulip kettle
probably a fucking dpad key or sthing
marble crater
Guess I will find out later, can't wait
tulip kettle
"SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES"
plogryn spawns
krak grenades fly
plogryn dies
such gameplay
acoustic jacinth
Don't worry, i'll make it fun by bringing thammer zealot, then it'll be EVEN more invigorating gameplay
plucky flax
I played 1 round.
Press 1 to pick up is so restarted.
What if I want to pick up this thing but I am reloading my range weapon hrmmm 
hearty wolf
Time to rebind
deft stump
Force majeure
Not me
If youre the first to found it (and get blamed for it) make...
But my chocolates though.
fading patrol
But my chocolates though.
Collateral 
deft stump
I wonder which buttons they are for controller and how much it sucks to pick stu...
Dpad left or right. left for pick up, right for destroy.
marble crater
Dpad left or right. left for pick up, right for destroy.
deft stump
https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-13669406505701813608
I just told you what you asked.
And yes, you are totally going to accidentally waste stims and ammocrates/med crates doing it.
marble crater
Yea and I think it's bad
deft stump
The number of stimms I wasted already sits at 7.
And a med kit.
Unless you go DESTROY.
Cos then it's DPAD Right.
Which is nothing burger.
marble crater
I do that already anyway, I want to stim but the game eats one of the imputs and I throw the grate down instead
deft stump
If the amount of ppl destroying is angy controller users, I'll understand.
Like, Just bind pick up to fucking X.
And destroy to something stu[id cos nobody but a few would really do it.
marble crater
Just don't make an event that needs people to manually pick things up
acoustic jacinth
You WILL pick up the rations!
marble crater
No, let the ogryns starve
jovial juniper
plucky flax
Meh I cba to suffer so ill just chose not to play it
tulip kettle
its very annoying to press "1" 400 times in a game, deselceting my ranged weapon every time
plucky flax
H40 more fun anyway 
zealous wing
i just didnt grab any, and i think otherpeoples pickups count so
if it does, i win by doing nothing but normal
tulip kettle
hexis doesnt return the cart at the supermarket
tulip kettle
hexis is responsible for nazis being voted into power
zealous wing
if we had to drag the cart back to the mall then go back to the bus we'd never be free of the mall
HEY NOW
tulip kettle
"i dont need to vote against them because enough other people will" ass take
jovial juniper
... technically, no
You've failed the litmus test
zealous wing
litmus test?
deft stump
Wow. Seens some people actually choose to destroy.
And well, changes nothing.
It still spawns a wave of bulwarks and a pogryn.
summer prairie
I think the maps are supposed to also change based on whether you recover or destroy. Angry ogryns or starvation riots (which I think has the inferno modifier).
dusk wren
i'm sure it will change something at the end
summer prairie
so maybe there's some progression and the buffs get enabled then
dusk wren
is there no announcement for the event yet
wraith sphinx
no
deft stump
so maybe there's some progression and the buffs get enabled then
Pretty sure is in match.
dusk wren
crazy
wraith sphinx
announcement is always days late
deft stump
Angry always seems to happen if most are recovered.
Starvation if most are destroyed.
dusk wren
i played 3 games with it and neither triggered
summer prairie
oh, the maps is suddenly on fire?
summer prairie
I see
deft stump
Spawns bulwarks and maybe a pogryn.
jovial juniper
litmus test?
Niche internet reference
Well not the litmus test itself
But the shopping cart litmus test is
summer prairie
Based on the description it sounded like it's a description you see on the map before selecting the mission rather than something that happens during the mission
deft stump
Basically, don't think it changes anything but the banner.
On heresy, it's 3-5 bulwarks and maybe a pogryn.
And my god is heresy pubs bad. Having to solo pogryns cos everyone is dead on on the floor with a meme build...
cosmic cobalt
they're literal babies bruh
deft stump
they're literal babies bruh
The best one is someone waking the DH because no trigger discipline while we already got a pogryn and a Chaos spawn on field.
zealous wing
But the shopping cart litmus test is
we dont really have shopping cart return points here, just areas we collectively decided is the return point
by the taxis is a main one, because the mall is right next to a main bus terminal
deft stump
We just have cart returns at the Taxistand and carparks for a reason.
A short walk if you want your dollar back.
zealous wing
we dont pay to use carts here either
not that ive seen anywhere anyway
though, there is a mall downtown where you have to pay to use the toilets, so, its possible
weary crane
@plucky flax
deft stump
Well, if you charge a dollar to rent, ppl will return them.
plucky flax
<@150967101836886016>
I can't do it on toggle sprint 
plucky flax
Well yeah I dont play with hold to sprint
summer prairie
Doing it constantly is too much anyway, at least with default binds. Sus if someone plays the whole round doing just that
summer timber
i don’t see why would you do that anyway tbh
unless you’re laying into a boss or something
but i’m an avid BB DPS user so I wouldn’t be using infernus for that anyway
autumn lark
I think the maps are supposed to also change based on whether you recover or des...
so the waking giants coming back in the form of this event?
summer prairie
I didn't look very closely, it used the same abhuman mutator, though one number was lowered
plucky flax
There's a pop up then a plague ogryn appear
Happens like 3 or 4 times in the only game I played
deft stump
There's a pop up then a plague ogryn appear
They spawn with an entourage of bulwarks tbh.
plucky flax
They spawn with an entourage of bulwarks tbh.
Didn't see them
deft stump
Might be dead. Lower diffs ppl can't clear bulwarks that fast.
little orchid
jovial juniper
Recovered too much rashuns
deft stump
Recovered too much rashuns
I mean, either that or they riot.
jovial juniper
Riots should be captains
But I don't think we'll see much of it
summer prairie
You get angry ogryns for recovering (stealing)
jovial juniper
Because muh rashuns funny
deft stump
it is captains
Dunno. I played like 4 games, nothing changes between angy or riots imo.
If there should be any differences.
summer prairie
it might only change tomorrow
deft stump
True. We'll find out then.
patent mango
new events and no aquilas? smh
graceful arch
I am going to start hitting smite users with hammers
white valley
hit them with thunder hammers
hallow finch
Dunno. I played like 4 games, nothing changes between angy or riots imo.
Is there some event going on?
deft stump
Is there some event going on?
Think rehashed skulls but more annoying.
Since no more totems.
hearty wolf
Why are friends still asleep
graceful arch
Has anyone done a 4 psyker h40?
jovial juniper
hearty wolf
Team recovered
weary crane
I just soloed it on arby so just recover them all
sturdy reef
So whats up with the new event?
plucky flax
So whats up with the new event?
Boring and not worth doing.
plucky flax
I have easy map if anyone wanna join in like 30 mins. 
deft stump
I have easy map if anyone wanna join in like 30 mins. <:PeepoHappy:4028678321754...
You sure it's easy if I'm around?
marble crater
Everything is easy with you around, you are the best carry
plucky flax
Tru
jovial juniper
no rashuns..
rashuns
Grut me
weary idol
Boring and not worth doing.
true
should spawn a plague ogryn for every tin you pick up
wraith sphinx
This is stupid
royal totem
i think this event has a bug
solid pond
whats the funny assail build people use to nuke groups of elites?
wraith sphinx
it was a rhetorical question 
there's also a bug that causes you to get stuck blocking with your melee if you push attack too quickly after pressing 1
deft stump
whats the funny assail build people use to nuke groups of elites?
Isn't it what I run anyway?
Trade some top nodes for bottom if you can no hit better than newbies.
deft stump
I have a beekeeper build. Is literally for that.
plucky flax
Who wants to get free h40 by beekeeper karien
jovial juniper
Thx I'll pass
Already got mine
So I'm just boosting people to h25
With the reset I went back to 20
Probably at 19 nowadays
royal totem
Karien is carrying today? :3
pale prairie
I have a beekeeper build. Is literally for that.
young cliff
I have a beekeeper build. Is literally for that.
What does the Disney princess assail weaver build looks like? Don't think I have one that solely focus on beeassail tossing to eat the Heretics
real granite
Do I really need to run bubble for every havoc tiers :(
young cliff
I run walls and win, bubble is the safety blanket of average reject that doesn't know how to slide or take cover
royal totem
Do I really need to run bubble for every havoc tiers :(
no
real granite
I like running shriek and Brain burst + lighting staff
You see that special? Not anymore
royal totem
though if you're using PF you will probs get declined a lot without bubble
real granite
:(
royal totem
it's like not even a thing of the skill of the players you come across cuz you get both good and bad people in PF
one of the big things is bubble is a nice safety buffer when nobody has played with each other before.
same with VoC and prayer etc
real granite
I hope we get more events like this
And hopefully our decisions is impactful (prob won’t)
royal totem
it's somewhat i think?
jovial juniper
Do I really need to run bubble for every havoc tiers :(
No
You just gotta be aware of ranged enemies
white valley
Bubble also lets you position and huddle in ways you usually can't
no need to run away from burgles and flamers anymore
white sky
Do I really need to run bubble for every havoc tiers :(
No but it let's you turn your brain off more
And like Balsco said is very good for trivalizing Burgles
white valley
Burgles, flamers, trappers, and even bombers to some extent are affected by bubble
Sliding and dodging is cool but bubble lets your team be more aggressive
white sky
The only issue i have with bubble is you can defo tell when someone has an overreliance on it
spice oar
How’s the new event
jovial juniper
royal totem
For all the good i say about bubble i almost never play with it
jovial juniper
Relatable
ripe obsidian
Recover the rashuns for our sweet brutes
marble crater
I destroyed them all
cosmic sigil
wanna meet my friend the laspistol?
cosmic sigil
That message is also over a week old <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
wait what?
marble crater
wait what?
You responded to a week old message 
cosmic sigil
I have no idea what I was doing on that conversation
cosmic sigil
👌
loud girder
Zealots job is to be a Krak grenade
what does this mean
loud girder
cosmic sigil
while pskyker can bubblesturbate
jovial juniper
what does this mean
Carapace and Unyielding deleting I guess
plucky flax
For all the good i say about bubble i almost never play with it
Maybe you should.
long wharf
why is everyone recovering these infested rations?
candid temple
1 is easier to hit than 2
deft stump
1 is easier to hit than 2
But riskier since it swaps to my stimm/crate/kit.
candid temple
huh
deft stump
Controller.
candid temple
candid temple
honestly it's wild that they made it like that 
deft stump
Clearly one is safer than the other.
marble crater
I destroy them all
royal totem
Maybe you should.
unno. the psykers i play with never have bubble
plucky flax
unno. the psykers i play with never have bubble
Make them play bubble.
deft stump
Oh, Chaos... I did no damage, right?
deft stump
150k book bot gucci?
graceful arch
I like playing stabby wizard.
deft stump
Scoreboard seems to miss a 1 in front of your damage. Weird bug.
Question, you know the vet?
deft stump
Ah.
plucky flax
deft stump
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-in-front-a-fan-cat-cooling-off-so-hot-cooling-off...
My pc in a nutshell.
The fans are screaming. 30 fps DT lul.
plucky flax
Question, you know the vet?
Why do you ask?
deft stump
Funny how with DLSS, it would drop to like 10.
plucky flax
Don't flame him you can flame all on me.
deft stump
Why do you ask? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
You were like chums.
Chooms?
Friends.
So was curious.
jovial juniper
8x your bleed damage even though you both had a bleed knife
Bleed knife being shit, shocker I know
deft stump
Bleed knife being shit, shocker I know
Only there to up crit chance to fuel book.
jovial juniper
Sorry karien
plucky flax
RIP my choom
jovial juniper
Poor excuse
deft stump
When I get to hit things.
royal totem
so karien carried the game?
young cliff
@deft stump Eula_Stare-ing me instead of releasing the Disney princess beekeeper build I want to unleash shiny glory bees upon the Rashun stealing Heretics!
strong gulch
in the build bonanza
young cliff
in the build bonanza
I saw some of the builds in the new guide, some of them really cool but I wonder what weapons you would suggest for the vent meleeker
(Also will give it a second look later, thanks)
graceful arch
I mean if you're going shriek melee psyker isn't Fgs a pretty obvious pick.
strong gulch
I saw some of the builds in the new guide, some of them really cool but I wonder...
FGS and bistol with surgical and bleed for assail shriek DD
young cliff
I mean if you're going shriek melee psyker isn't Fgs a pretty obvious pick.
Yeah, it's a good peril generator, but I was more curious about the ranged weapon
strong gulch
Yeah that works, but I would just stick to DD.
celest valve
For FGS I weirdly tend to like laspistol as a mobility tool.
But also autogun is love autogun is life.
...autogun has weirdly fast equip time which works well with the FGS 0s equip time.
(yes fgs is effectively instant to swap to due to its wield attack cancel)
young cliff
Autogun or autopistol?
obtuse walrus
The current event
strong gulch
Keep in mind that with shriek assail, you don't have the crit chance and other things of SG.
Is why bistol or zarona is common picks for it.
also funny bleed applying to assail or FGS special
young cliff
Zarona paired with assail sounds like a good combo, finesse for the big damage, assail/vent to patch the ammo needed and aoe
WS for the bleeding warp slash sounds good since you can spam it quite often for more bleed and fire
strong gulch
low WR on FGS can feed shriek
you can spam it anyways
without WS
DD helps assail, gun, and melee a lot
young cliff
Indeed, funny that DD empowers assail more than EP
strong gulch
but if you want to shriek more then warp siphon but everything else will not hit as hard
idk about more
DD just does more that just blitz
if you just want to power up assail, EP is the way to go.
but that is just blitz
marsh badger
and throwing EP assails (RMB in particular) does more damage and cost no peril so it works nicely with SG
cosmic sigil
laspistol
hearty wolf
Friend spotted
strong gulch
hi
weary idol
why is everyone recovering these infested rations?
succulent meal
cosmic sigil
I played gun/meleeker all day yesterday and I just discovered there's a talent named warp ghost, can someone do me an eli5 on it?
young cliff
succulent meal
The ogryn hunger can't be denied
pine elk
what's the best hordeclear staff?
cosmic sigil
purga
summer prairie
hmm
weary idol
what's the best hordeclear staff?
purgatus
ripe obsidian
I played gun/meleeker all day yesterday and I just discovered there's a talent n...
Warp Ghost does what it says in the description. Which part needs explanation?
cosmic sigil
in the context of a melee gun/psyker, how does it play?
I am used to manage peril by killing stuff
and by the time SG is finished i can use it again
so the passive quelling stuff doesn't talk to me
does warp ghost remove the need of some other talents? does it complement others?
I can at least see kd because of the stam stuff
ripe obsidian
Ah, it's a nice talent to have. Everything it does benefits you fairly well, especially with Warp Unbound to remove the threat of headsploding
It is not mandatory, but it is nice
long wharf
also funny bleed applying to assail or FGS special
wait, assail is once again taking on the ranged weapon blessings?
cosmic sigil
blessed be thy coding skill obesefish
strong gulch
wait, assail is once again taking on the ranged weapon blessings?
Bleed on gun has been working on other ranged forever. It funny.
No 90% rending tho.
tall solar
I wonder if you could make a remotely viable build where your main damage source was the force staff spec bash
it has weirdly decent stagger for some reason
and melee attack talents apply to it
strong gulch
Viable? Lol
The best you're gonna get is charged strikes for bash bonk, and it doesn't benefit from EP now.
tall solar
Viable? Lol
The best you're gonna get is charged strikes for bash bonk, and it...
hey i added the remotely qualifier for good reason
i dont expect this to work
i just want it to be usable enough i can use it in heresy and get a stupid character name change
i'd settle for malice
plucky flax
I have oubliette with stim and rot. Seems hard.
The area near first medicae is going to be absolutely hell. A bunch of elites + shooters from stairs.
strong gulch
hey i added the *remotely* qualifier for good reason
it won't be
did a whole run like that
the viable part is getting carried
is funny
just do
no viable needed
tall solar
fair
i only want to be funny useless not annoying useless so i will attempt to make the best of a useless loadout
tall solar
no viable needed
it does have decent stagger though
like it semi-reliably knocks down a lot of enemies
on heavy
and flinches them on light
tall solar
it won't be
did a whole run like that
the viable part is getting carried
is fun...
wanna know the funniest shit
the best possible staff bonk build
would require that you pick smite
just for shits n giggles
because of that one addon node to smite
that makes your melees electrocute
summer prairie
The corridor after the elevator is rough too if you get crushers+boss(es)
plucky flax
It's bubble time but the bubble die in 6s.
tall solar
it won't be
did a whole run like that
the viable part is getting carried
is fun...
wait hold on
does the weapon damage stat affect the staff bonk?
also
if an enemy dies to the electrical DOT from that smit enode
does it count as a warp kill
ripe obsidian
The corridor after the elevator is rough too if you get crushers+boss(es)
The one with the railing to the left and a bunch of shooters from 100m away at the end?
summer prairie
Yes
long wharf
if an enemy dies to the electrical DOT from that smit enode
this is a very good question, my initial guess would be "yes", as the code originated from the OG surge staff
but it warrants testing (though the electrical DoT is very weak)
strong gulch
This patch, the DoT from charged strikes has actual ownership and a damage type. That damage type is warp and does proc MM.
Previously, that wasn't the case.
white valley
I have oubliette with stim and rot. Seems hard. <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Rotten armour was a mistake
This season is killing my soul
Maybe I should give up on pugs
plucky flax
I found beter psyker in pug though.
white valley
Saw a zealot yesterday with T3 flak damage and T3 block efficiency on their duelling sword
TIER THREE
plucky flax
white valley
Truly the greatest psyker in 40k, Chriss
plucky flax
Dunno why party leader can't kick people in the hub.
white valley
Stronger than Malcador
plucky flax
He weren't that good on zealot nor ogryn btw.
long wharf
you can't kick people when on the MS?
long wharf
he truly was the Warpsyker 40 thousand
plucky flax
This game's social aspect is so shit.
pine elk
sorry how exactly does perils of the warp work?
tall solar
but it warrants testing (though the electrical DoT is *very* weak)
its not thaaat weak
pine elk
So if you're at 100% for a bit without quelling peril in any way you explode?
long wharf
it's not damage worth counting on
verbal thistle
sorry how exactly does perils of the warp work?
if at 100% peril then use peril weapon you explode
tall solar
that or it just feels good in comparison to the force staff melee
verbal thistle
if peril decreases with any talents you will be saved
tall solar
if peril decreases with any talents you will be saved
including venting shriek
tall solar
and wrath
verbal thistle
and destiny sub node
long wharf
anything that reduces peril will save you
verbal thistle
wrath?
long wharf
that's moot, then, isn't it
merry sinew
crystalline will and exploding an elite
long wharf
anything that quells peril while you're in the "I'm gonna go hnnnnng" animation will save you
tall solar
anything that quells peril while you're in the "I'm gonna go hnnnnng" animation ...
so avoid those if you're going for warpenheimer build
long wharf
which is memey, yes
tall solar
but its funny though
pine elk
so avoid those if you're going for warpenheimer build
the what now
spark thistle
so avoid those if you're going for warpenheimer build
can i ask what a warpenheimer build entails exactly
long wharf
I really want there to be an upgrade node for that to include killing any enemy will save you
tall solar
can i ask what a warpenheimer build entails exactly <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290...
lemme find the dumbass funny node
long wharf
it's the Emperor Akbar Jihad build
merry sinew
it's the suicide bomber pysker build. spec into crystalline will, go explode an elite and you won't die, repeat.
long wharf
problem is the damage is still not high enough to reliably one-shot elites on auric
tall solar
peak
long wharf
and killing a specialist doesn't proc it, only elites
pine elk
i might run with that
long wharf
it really should be both
pine elk
mind in motion worth it..?
tall solar
it at least saves you from accidental boom if you take it ig
merry sinew
and killing a specialist doesn't proc it, *only* elites
that's kinda F tbh. shoulda been both.
merry sinew
mind in motion worth it..?
not really no.. you can slide and quell to bypass slow movespeed while quelling
pine elk
aha
spark thistle
okay now i want to do that but just solely run at bursters and detonate first
pine elk
yeah I'll consider working around that
tall solar
does the damage stat on your force staff impact the damage of its staff bonk
long wharf
staff bonk does 0 damage at all times
tall solar
staff bonk does 0 damage at all times
false
long wharf
wait nevermind
tall solar
it does some
long wharf
yeah, it's very small
merry sinew
you shouldn't really be stuck on quelling animation for long anyway.. should be targeting staying at 80-100% peril the whole game to maximize damage, crit, etc. so you technically only tap quell once or twice if you're at 100% and you should be fighting again.
tall solar
if it did ZERO i wouldnt be making a meme build with it
long wharf
staves shouldn't even have a melee bonk for a special attack
tall solar
staves shouldn't even have a melee bonk for a special attack
but its funny
verbal thistle
hitting people with sticks is funny
jovial juniper
staves shouldn't even have a melee bonk for a special attack
I mean
Psykers can hit people with their staves
Even Rogue Trader has that
It's a big stick
spark thistle
https://tenor.com/view/kill-people-gif-25984064
average flight distance after being grabbed by the 76th mutant in a row:
jovial juniper
Hit people with it
long wharf
and that special attack could be something cool and unique per staff
a unique way to either spend peril for a warp attack or something
tall solar
especially when they go flying onto the floor with unreasonable amounts of momentum given the fact its not a particularly heavy looking stick
jovial juniper
but in Darktide, they're ranged weapons
With the top 2 non infinite melee cleave in the game
😭
long wharf
that fact that the staff special has stupid high impact value is straight dumb
ripe obsidian
The trinket reward from this event is... not pleasant.
tall solar
that fact that the staff special has stupid high impact value is straight dumb
its funny
strong gulch
I haven't done event yet.
long wharf
its **funny**
agree to disagree
ripe obsidian
I haven't done event yet.
Nor have I. Just looked at the news post.
tall solar
but i am laughing
ripe obsidian
It appears to be a rat's tail
tall solar
and thats worthj something
strong gulch
I watched hexis discover it went live before the announcement.
Luckily I saw syllo mention something about from the code.
Laughed at angy oggy.
merry sinew
there is an exploit for the mission
for the event? o.o
long wharf
I much prefer the starvation event than the angry ogryn event
verbal thistle
for the event? o.o
yes
merry sinew
lol that's crayy
verbal thistle
I got all points in 9 min
long wharf
I got all points in 9 min
there's no way
verbal thistle
long wharf
what's the exploit?
verbal thistle
get to end of an event
the leave mission and spam rejoin
and it will recount all progression
long wharf
oh lord
verbal thistle
I joined a friend at end event
spark thistle
oh god and the exploit is easy to do as well
verbal thistle
and I got 450 points per time I joined
long wharf
no wonder "recover" progress is so much more than destroy
long saddle
but not the actual final count?
merry sinew
lol ainz speedrunning the events as usual.
strong gulch
I much prefer the starvation event than the angry ogryn event
No that's part of this event.
long wharf
correct
you get to pick which mid-mission event happens
based on whether the team is recovering or destroying rations
... I almost spelled it "rashuns"
strong gulch
oh gotcha
you were talking about that oops all ogryns event
long saddle
angry ogryn is chill
strong gulch
WAIT. I just saw a great reason to take smite.
So you can scratch your nose.
I support this use of smite.
tall solar
WAIT. I just saw a great reason to take smite.
So you can scratch your nose.
I...
take it so you can take Charged Strike to use with your staff bash
ripe obsidian
and I got 450 points per time I joined
So if you just press the rejoin button a billion times, you get all the points?
strong gulch
take it so you can take Charged Strike to use with your staff bash
No I'm tired now.
verbal thistle
So if you just press the rejoin button a billion times, you get all the points?
have 1 person stay in mission at the very end of an event mission. the 3 other people will need to leave strike team, join mouring star then rejoin the friend
and repeat like 10 times
tall solar
https://youtu.be/Sz5q2npmCOY
peak comedy
white valley
He weren't that good on zealot nor ogryn btw.
such a good psyker they can't play anything else
white valley
bonk
white valley
staff melee weapon when
strong gulch
Bait a teammate to get eaten by bon then use staff heavy to unslug them.
lone ravine
strong gulch
Be sure to do in H40 down a narrow corridor with shooters and forget that bubble and deimos H2 exist.
leaden wind
Silly question, with EK heavy attack should you aim at the head of the first target or does it not matter
strong gulch
Doesn't matter
white valley
cannot target heads, makes no difference where you aim
leaden wind
Sweet that’s what I figured lol
long saddle
idt you can aim it
long wharf
you can aim it, but the attack only ever hits the body
the enemy it targets is whichever is closest to your point of aim
you use this to select which enemy you hit, works in a crowd when you can see the head of the one you want above the rest
leaden wind
Ooo ok ok good to know
strong gulch
Ye
strong gulch
tarappers and bombers are taller and there's jump tech
it's a lil fiddly but mostly reliable
long wharf
I really wish the staff would actually hit the limb in your crosshairs
let me crit heads with the damn thing
bad enough it only really damages up to two enemies
strong gulch
still gotcha watch it when thing of similar height are packed tightly together or if something jumps bewteen you and your target if there's a bunch of them
sometimes is better to lmb
long wharf
I'd rework the surge staff, at this point
have number of targets it hits be based on charge time
have it hit the first target wherever you're aiming
leaden wind
bad enough it only really damages up to two enemies
That’s the one complaint I have with, just a tad more cleave would be nice
Like 2-4 more guys affected
long wharf
no damage reduction on any target hit
leaden wind
Also special attack is kinda useless imo, if it did a small bit of electrical damage that would be better
It’s an electric staff, I should be able to taze a mfer
long wharf
I miss the OG surge staff
leaden wind
What did they change to it? (I just started playing a few months ago lol)
strong gulch
Surge has always been my fave staff and I don't miss OG surge staff.
It used to hit like 6 targets. Wasn't as much damage at the main target now. This was before smite.
Was really strong CC.
sinful flume
I'm trying to look for a set of builds with the most unique and lore accurate weapons loadouts as possible for all classes, meaning I want as few repeat weapons as possible.
I don't mind repeating abilities in the ability tree I just want as unique weapon loadouts/combinations as possible.
white valley
Psyker, more than other classes, builds around their weapons, so that's a pretty easy ask
strong gulch
IDK about lore, but there are builds in the build bonanza pin.
You could cross ref those with the #theorycrafting board.
ripe obsidian
Oh no do I need to add lore-accurate builds
leaden wind
Lore accurate psyker build, getting sacrificed to the throne
leaden wind
😭
ripe obsidian
So brain burst and shriek are guaranteed
tall solar
is there a way to take damage in the psykanium so i can test toughness talents
ripe obsidian
is there a way to take damage in the psykanium so i can test toughness talents
Creature Spawner mod
strong gulch
Got it, black ship psyker build
"assimilation didn't save me" build
white valley
I mean lore accurate is a whole other can of worms, it's 40k, there are billions of psykers
sinful flume
Also I might have to add idgaf about meta builds that include ammo weapons because I only want 100% organic psyker builds
As far as "organic" goes anyway
white valley
lorewise, psykers do use laspistols pretty often for example
ripe obsidian
"assimilation didn't save me" build
That would be 0 talents. Trying to blend in.
Or, wait
No
All peril-quelling nodes
As little peril as possible
tall solar
just hit people withj the staff
ripe obsidian
And brain burst to kill people who find out
tall solar
theres gotta be at least ONE person who got put on a blackship who wasnt actually magic
be that guy
hit em with the stick
tall solar
woe soul sacrificed
white valley
speaking of lore, our force staves don't exist afaik
radiant frigate
why not
white valley
Simply put, there are no inferno force staves, or voidblast staves
just force staves
radiant frigate
at least two also exist in owlcat's rogue trader
that i have seen so far
surely this could not have been a coincidence!!
white valley
What a psyker can do with their respective staff depends on the psyker's own mastery of their powers
A pyrokinetic psyker would use their force staff to safely channel warpfire as an example
weary idol
well
yeah
obviously
the staves are just a way to itemize different psyker disciplines
p sure all the lightning shit is labeled biomancy in the game's code
white valley
Aye, smite is biomancy
radiant frigate
remember when obesefish said "smite is smite" and let the gorillion% extra damage from EP apply to surge staff
that was certainly an experience
it was 2shotting crushers
radiant frigate
and also not consuming the stacks
radiant frigate
smite isn't even smite
true fact
ripe obsidian
Rule of Cool is the guiding law of reality in 40k
strong gulch
I need to build oggy
ripe obsidian
Oggy too hard
strong gulch
but rashuns event
marble crater
Why is this event set up in a way that makes me unable to do things by blocking button inputs 
Actually trying to get people killed
marble crater
I clipped it, for what it's worth, since you can't see what I'm trying to press
young cliff
no bolcking and other mele combat fundamentals were ignored since legendary times
pallid stump
ok so
after a meme build with arbites
i kinda saw that (at least on low difficulties) that block effiency is very fun
so i was thinking....deflector and block effiency force sword (or fgs) and scriers
for the memes
young cliff
the warp messing with your imputs, that's why venting worked
weary idol
so i was thinking....deflector and block effiency force sword (or fgs) and scrie...
alas
marble crater
Only ever worked after switching weapons
weary idol
kinetic deflection makes block efficiency an irrelevant stat on psykers
+stamina gives far more returns
pallid stump
+stamina gives far more returns
this
young cliff
still quite the odd bug, would hate that my staff starts to malfunction in the middle of a fight
weary idol
this
Kinetic Deflection's peril cost when you block something is directly based on the percentage of your stamina that blocking an attack would consume
Blocking is a flat stamina cost
pallid stump
i see
weary idol
More stamina means blocking costs less of your stamina overall
pallid stump
so it woulnd't help at all with blocking thingy ma bob?
weary idol
Thus Kinetic Deflection generates significantlly less peril
It would help it'd just be much weaker than stamina for the same investment
weary idol
IF you are using Kinetic Deflection you should build +Stamina to block more
Since it is just better
Also just use Kinetic Deflection if you want to block in general
pallid stump
aw man
here i thought it'd be good
i can always NOT use it
but if its better using it then whats the point
rancid jasper
i can always NOT use it
Try devils claw sword and just deflect everything that comes at you infinitely
pallid stump
thing is i wanted the force swords
they can block bullets
yknow what
ill do a test
strong gulch
for the memes
more stam and KD
pallid stump
- 2 stamina curio only with stamina regen and block efficiency on and then with kinetic deflection
see what i like more i suppose
strong gulch
Only ever worked after switching weapons
Yeah. Shit like that isn't new but is swear it's getting worse / more common.
strong gulch
+ 2 stamina curio only with stamina regen and block efficiency on and then with ...
+3 stam (410 or higher)
pallid stump
my psyker is level 20
strong gulch
rip
pallid stump
yeah so
strong gulch
all stam curio
pallid stump
ill do what i find fun
when i gotta worry about sweating in late game ill try actual functional builds
marble crater
Yeah. Shit like that isn't new but is swear it's getting worse / more common.
First time it happened to me and then all mission, not like I did anything differently from before. So it's either specifically from the event and button combination or Fatshark introduced this particular bug to Xbox with the hotfix
weary crane
Does "just a dream" work at 100% peril while warp unbound is active? Never tried
strong gulch
First time it happened to me and then all mission, not like I did anything diffe...
You got some of the PC cooties then
marble crater
All of the aids with almost none of the qol mods
strong gulch
Does "just a dream" work at 100% peril while warp unbound is active? Never tried
It shouldn't. It has been bumping people back down to 97 (at least pre hotfix; idk about after).
tall solar
i should use mods
weary crane
Ive never played with mods and never will
unkempt hare
tall solar
Peril is scary if no bar.
especially if you dont have the peril fx at 0% at all tiomes
times
purple tentacles mean you boutta explode anything before that is okayish
strong gulch
they show up at 100% so cast u fecked
tall solar
no they show up at
strong gulch
or DS parry
tall solar
like 95%
tall solar
or DS parry
...DS parry perils?
strong gulch
yes
ripe obsidian
Does "just a dream" work at 100% peril while warp unbound is active? Never tried
I can test. I don't believe so.
For some reason JaD sets peril from >97% back to 97%
Which still doesn't help anything
weary crane
Pretty useless for gaze then
cursive tiger
Is charged strikes still worth it
strong gulch
I still find JaD useful in SG gunker builds. Immaterial focus and JaD cycling one another.
marble crater
I would at least use some of the qol mods if I could
modest merlin
Anyone know if the empowered psionics interaction with the heavy attack electricity node was nerfed/taken out?
Mister E did a video on his suipsyker build, wherein he talks about the lingering electricity from the heavy attack interacting with the empoered psionic keystone to do triple damage… I think it got nerfed but not sure if I’m just doing something wrong
strong gulch
was patched out in a hot fix
modest merlin
Got it
tall solar
Mister E did a video on his suipsyker build, wherein he talks about the lingerin...
the heavy attack makes electricity node of smite works with staff bonk
its funny
strong gulch
Lol. Event item was weapon swap for me. I was just constantly swapping.
My oggy got many snacks
modest merlin
Do you guys think that electricity on heavy attack node is any good still or
marble crater
My oggy got many snacks
team destroy all snacks
young cliff
My oggy got many snacks
That's something I was a lil annoyed, why it had to be 1 or 2?
strong gulch
<:angymorrow:1062670568916267038> team destroy all snacks
I did both. Now I have take as my main interact button.
vernal temple
the rat tail looks disgusting, ew
marble crater
It's a rat tail, what exactly did you expect
vernal temple
It's a rat tail, what exactly did you expect <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
RASHUNS
young cliff
the rat tail looks disgusting, ew <:angymorrow:1062670568916267038>
I think you mean DELICIOUS
-Sincerely an ogryn
strong gulch
I gnored a mutant to pick up snack.
hearty wolf
Save or destroy?
strong gulch
I did both