I went to res the psyker but no one else cared
#psyker-class
summer prairie
ripe obsidian
Lore accurate
weary crane
Y'all need me in the game 
royal totem
i need Six to carry me again
clearly
(i'm joking)
my arb is too heavy. can't be carried
sand field
summer prairie
trauma kind of doing nothing without a frontline, too rng whether you get to stagger and people run back anyway
ripe obsidian
i need Six to carry me again
I am bad
royal totem
i thought trauma has like a fixed number before you stagger certain things
like crushers take two or something
summer prairie
it was stimms
royal totem
it was stimms
oh didn't realize. my bad
summer prairie
The psyker had a heavy laspistol and in the longer round killed 12 specials with it
royal totem
._. that feels too little
prime elk
The psyker had a heavy laspistol and in the longer round killed 12 specials with...
"somebody else will deal with the trapper!"
plucky flax
Maybe game is just too hard without burga. 
Or rot stim combo is too OP I guess.
At some point I was surge surging a bulwark for like 20s.
Just tickling it.
languid pine
rotten stim is just annoying
roll a rotten armor crusher mauler trickle and watch them pop a blue stim
ripe obsidian
Blue stim is dumb.
Also, @summer prairie and/or @plucky flax, if you have a chance to skim the guide and give feedback, I would appreciate it. I am sure I didn't get everything right
weary crane
Maybe game is just too hard without burga. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239...
This is what I was saying a while ago
Some dude was arguing that you could win havoc 40s without any "OP" stuff
I was like
No you can't
plucky flax
Also, <@204309481427959809> and/or <@150967101836886016>, if you have a chance t...
Why don't you put the community build below each build similar to surge staff section.
verbal thistle
No you can't
You can, but it takes alot more skill and effort. More then the average player is willing to put in
hence why its not OP
summer prairie
I don't think the EK SG section is realistic with its recommendation of trying to max out precognition
plucky flax
(I actually didn't read anything was just noting that.)
weary crane
You can, but it takes alot more skill and effort. More then the average player i...
At the time they were labeling any source of infinite cleave OP, and a lot of talents and weapons
Basically he was saying you can win havoc 40s with a dclaw and autopistol and no OP talents
weary crane
Has it been done?
weary crane
Send the video
weary crane
Lol
summer prairie
if the team always falls back and clears hordes, you can do it with anything, takes too long and gets dull
verbal thistle
lol
plucky flax
I'm sure it's not super rough with decent players but I normally just play with people on party finder so it's sus.
summer prairie
if you take it slow enough you'll semi exhaust hordes until you move forward again
weary crane
if you take it slow enough you'll semi exhaust hordes until you move forward aga...
Unless you kill quick enough, you will run out of space to retreat to.. or the game spawns new things faster than you kill
verbal thistle
there is alot of skill that goes into properly kiting enemies without mobility weapons
summer prairie
almost any map have kiting loops you can utilize
verbal thistle
and its possible
weary crane
If any player can kill a large pus hardened carapace horde with a healing scab captain with tax/dclaw, in havoc 40, then I'll believe it
Not to mention boss spawns, hordes and specialist spamming
summer prairie
I think the specialist surges are finite too but not sure how much of a difference exhausting them makes
royal totem
ummm... this may be a stupid question but how does the ranged twin decide who to target? is it just random or?
royal totem
huh. i see.
verbal thistle
probably just who he sees 1st then who is doing the most damage to him
sacred crane
What perks/blessings should I use for a havoc inferno?
plucky flax
Flak unyielding nexus blaze away and call it a day.
sacred crane
Flak unyielding nexus blaze away and call it a day.
ive seen some use penetrating flame + blaze away
plucky flax
You can be weird and run penetrating flames nexus.
I see it too. I tried it too. I didn't like it as much as nexus.
Less crit less ee not so good against shooters.
In theory you can run whatever though like I won with that guy playing nexus penetrating flames but he did really low damage.
languid pine
I think the specialist surges are finite too but not sure how much of a differen...
surges have a limit yes
you can technically run it out
its also technically possible to do h40 with only the barebones
the hardest thing about it would be your patience and specials
plucky flax
White weapon dclaw vs rot crusher.
languid pine
if you really wanted to be weird you can also just keep enemies up and not kill anything until the game reaches max challenge rating and stops spawning stuff
teal fog
Has it been done?
💔 🥀
lethal swan
Do you still dump Warp Resistance as low as possible on the force great swords? I just realized one of mine has like the tiniest warp resistance score ever lol
strong gulch
Low WR is good. But you want to max finesse.
plucky flax
just max out the finesse and cleave and stop there, yeah?
Yep as soon as finesse hit 80 stop.
That looks like a 20 something wr sword which is really good.
lethal swan
excellent, ty!
unyielding, carapace, ripose/UP good right
and.....I guess most people run the mk VI?
lethal swan
makes sense!
oh yeah, which guns are best for the gun psyker? MK II Laspistol and the recon lasguns? IAGs?
haven't played psyker in a long time lol
modest perch
yea pretty mucg
plucky flax
Anything that shoots fast is good. I like the recon 12 the best for good damage and high hips fire accuracy.
And good ammo economy.
modest perch
shredder if u wanna achieve ludicrous speed
modest perch
yea
brazen compass
I too, shred enemies instead of riposte them 
modest perch
dont listen to the ammo economy nerds. just get to the ammo before anyone else does
its like blaze away cavalcade flak unyielding
or whatever the crit blessing is called. escalade or whatever
to make the most of mettle to activate the warp drive
ripe obsidian
Why don't you put the community build below each build similar to surge staff se...
I do. I just don't have builds for each thing
ripe obsidian
I don't think the EK SG section is realistic with its recommendation of trying t...
How would you improve it?
marble crater
No
summer prairie
I noticed that it was for ER+WC, not sure about that. With DD EK you mostly accept that you won't get many SG stacks and use it for infinite peril
modest perch
no for shredder
strong gulch
I know some prefer WC SG for EK to have constant staff spam and never have to worry about uptime.
weary idol
I don't think recon has blaze away or calvacade?
god could you imagine if it did though
cavalcade recon lasgun on veteran
actual infinite ammo beamer
modest perch
that sounds awesome
strong gulch
I know some prefer WC SG for EK to have constant staff spam and never have to wo...
Monsoon comes to mind.
DD buffs tho
If you can't aim tho.
I haven't really played much EK SG, so I keep my input minimal.
plucky flax
@summer prairie
if I came to you two I probably would die as well I dunno it was a shit situation with horde and rager behind + so many shooters in front and going up that ramp has no cover.
Cat jam meme clutch to the weeknd. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnRs7_Sfawk
summer prairie
I was expecting the zealot, I feel like he wasn't using his book much and never when we had a lot of armor pushing us
cosmic cobalt
dont listen to the ammo economy nerds. just get to the ammo before anyone else d...
kerillian pilled
royal totem
I know some prefer WC SG for EK to have constant staff spam and never have to wo...
Whats WC
white sky
dont listen to the ammo economy nerds. just get to the ammo before anyone else d...
This sounds like sandbagging with extra steps
modest perch
nah just kill everything before anyone else gets to it and take all the ammo in the process
acoustic jacinth
I know some prefer WC SG for EK to have constant staff spam and never have to wo...
I used to run this for a while tbh but personally, i always get flat out more dps with shriek and sb focus. (Despite it being more boring admittedly lol)
This was before patch though
I doubt that i would get different results now, either way
Shriek is shriek
strong gulch
Shriek is shriek. I haven't used EK SG since SG has been buffed multiple times. WU was still bugged.
acoustic jacinth
Only thing i havent tried is the m1 EK builds with DD. But it is vastly far from my playstyle so i'd likely do bad
My EK playstyle is literally just, go up to 70% peril -> cast twice (m2) -> do this till 6 WS -> shriek -> repeat
This usually creates a chain of shriek every 8-ish seconds, being realistic
strong gulch
But still, recomending WC or DD on EK SG seems to have different goals imo. But I can't really speak to nuances because of that lack of experiences.
This is in reference to what recomended in the build bonanza guide specifically for EK SG.
plucky flax
Ppll play gaze surge right click?
strong gulch
Ppll play gaze surge right click?
Apparently yes.
acoustic jacinth
I dont see how any other ek could outperform this version of ek builds
strong gulch
Monsoon mixes LMB and RMB for EK SG.
summer prairie
surge surge SG does more for the team than rmb shriek ek
plucky flax
Interesting since left click with surge surge gaze would do higher dps than right click surge gaze.
summer prairie
in current havoc
acoustic jacinth
With shriek?
Oh gaze
Hm
Id need to see both tbh
I dont believe in gaze
To rivel shriek
summer prairie
you have way better special clear, way better melee and also should be better damage
plucky flax
Bubble knight is really good high damage for a 'support' build.
acoustic jacinth
But yeah sure for SG m1 ek will likely outperform
Can't speak out of experience though
I play very strict "the build" talent trees on most classes
What i usually run with EK nowadays
10% peril node definitely could be changed but i've hit some really comfortable edging spots with it so eh
I bring the trusty fgs along for horde clear and thas about it
lethal swan
oh my god I was like I'm gonna have to roll a recon lasgun, but just finished am alestrom and this dropped
😂
pallid stump
is this cool psyker drip or should i wait cuz theres better
marble crater
There is better, there is also a lot that is worse
zealous wing
i just collect the pieces i like
marble crater
At the end of the day it's a matter of taste and what you like
zealous wing
like, my zealot is wearing things from 3 diffferent sets
marble crater
That one is one of the better pieces, imo
modest perch
the fancy frill collar is objectively the best
zealous wing
its funny, but, definitely not anything I'd ever wear
zinc phoenix
So sg with bb+kf and bigsword is pretty fun
Assail feels ass with all the new carapace out there. Randomly BBing people by contrast feels sick
royal totem
Im gonna turn into a ek sg player :3
ripe obsidian
I noticed that it was for ER+WC, not sure about that. With DD EK you mostly acce...
I can modify it to be DD instead.
marsh badger
i prefer DD w/ EK but I either run transfer peril or shriek
strong gulch
okay im converted
Weren't you already converted?
tulip kettle
nah
i like SG WC RMB
because i cant aim
but i think the spammability seems good
though
no WC for SG seems sus
long saddle
the fancy frill collar is objectively the best
ye I bought that when it was its separate thing in the shop
tulip kettle
i think using cheat mods that stop you casting if it would explode you LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE CLEARLY RUNNING will make it easier
marble crater
zealous wing
sorry was me
plucky flax
No it was me.
tulip kettle
show staff plox
plucky flax
Flak crit chance and call it a day.
plucky flax
Nexus surge ye
But easiest is still having 1 inferno shriek, then the 2nd psyker can run some 'off meta' build like bubble knight/surge surge.
tulip kettle
sweet ill prob just test it in auric for a bit and see if i can get over not being able to aim
plucky flax
Aiming it is hard tbf.
The projectile is really slow.
Hard to hit strafing target.
royal totem
I just shoot lots
plucky flax
I'm not pro like you. 
royal totem
I like shriek though to steal soublaze damage to look better
marsh badger
transfer peril surge allows you to get SG stacks
royal totem
I'm not pro like you. <:Sadge:798218420423360522>
Ill remind you im only on h21 and youre on 40 🙁
tulip kettle
im not concerned about SG stacks
i wont take finesse as i wont be hitting heads enough for it to matter
plucky flax
You have to hit head for transfer peril?
tulip kettle
so i can just quell for stacks if i really need em
plucky flax
I only aim bodyshot. 
royal totem
Amd i dont think i can ever clear 40
plucky flax
Head too hard to hit.
tulip kettle
exactly
plucky flax
Amd i dont think i can ever clear 40
Ask karien to solo carry you.
tulip kettle
how do you path to get ES?
wildfire seems poop
so does channeled and souldrinker
as only source of SB is PC
deft stump
Ask karien to solo carry you.
You should do it. Get Syllo as well.
royal totem
Theres...just no point for me being carried
Its a rollercoaster of a week. Got forced into an h29 unwillingly and all
Screamed every moment of it
tulip kettle
ah i seeeee
royal totem
Also Karien...im being serious i dobt think i can ever clear 40
royal totem
Im just perma bad and ive accepted it
plucky flax
If there's no soulblaze then it's unfortunate but you have to take channelled force or something.
Or you can take melee attack speed and the stuff on the right.
deft stump
Also Karien...im being serious i dobt think i can ever clear 40
You do realise I technically can't, right? Is why I poke Syllo and Chaos to carry.
ripe obsidian
@plucky flax gib surge surge build
royal totem
You do realise I technically can't, right? Is why I poke Syllo and Chaos to carr...
Ehhhh but you still have multi h40 clears :3
deft stump
By getting carried.
royal totem
Look. Even Ainz and Six cant carry me @deft stump just pointing out.
ripe obsidian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9AZp48wWsA
I will remove WS EK SG builds and put this in instead
tulip kettle
so i can also kill the hordes with FGS
plucky flax
I will remove WS EK SG builds and put this in instead
I would say this is a havoc specific build. If I was to play auric I'd skip es cos things die too fast there anyway to stack up.
ripe obsidian
Look. Even Ainz and Six cant carry me <@229302123391614976> just pointing out.
Not sure why you're putting my name next to Ainz.
strong gulch
You're probably fine dropping cruel fortune.
royal totem
Not sure why you're putting my name next to Ainz.
Cuz. Your a regular h40 clearer
tulip kettle
hah nemui, theres a difference between "i clear 40's" and "i solo 40s"
royal totem
hah nemui, theres a difference between "i clear 40's" and "i solo 40s"
Im not denying that.
deft stump
And there's a diff with, I clear H40 with pubs and... I stack the decks so hard in my favour.
royal totem
I stacked it in my favor too! I even had Ainz....
Idk how much more i coulda stacked it
marble crater
Nobody wins every mission, not even Ainz
royal totem
We never even made it to 1st event
deft stump
Shit happens in H40.
plucky flax
Nobody wins every mission, not even Ainz
Actually.... K can.
marble crater
True, I should have said 99,99999% of people can't
ripe obsidian
hah nemui, theres a difference between "i clear 40's" and "i solo 40s"
If Ainz is a 10/10 h40 player, I am like a 4/10
deft stump
If Ainz is a 10/10 h40 player, I am like a 4/10
So, am 1/10.
plucky flax
You only need 10% of your power to win?
strong gulch
Bro just wanted to charge ahead into every barrel with a VB on the team.
marble crater
Were you the bro and also had the VB?
strong gulch
Were you the bro and also had the VB?
Arbby was the bro. I did bro myself once with VB tho.
marble crater
fiery stratus
strong gulch
cronch
marble crater
creature
fiery stratus
marble crater
zealous wing
@tulip kettle im with 2 randoms atm, was helping someone level
weary crane
pallid stump
bit confused on what to do with smite
tulip kettle
change it for another blitz
graceful arch
🙂
tulip kettle
problem solved
fiery stratus
zealous wing
mortis spawns like no elites and specials
until sephoni decides its mutie/trapper/dog wave time
genuine dodge-check
tulip kettle
sephoni can do what she likes
zealous wing
pallid stump
change it for another blitz
thing is
i like smite
it can provide good support to you team
patent jacinth
It can also put them to sleep
pallid stump
i mostly charge it to stun enemies and have them take 10% more damage
thing is
soon as i stop
they get right back to it
patent jacinth
The 10% isn't worth anything
pallid stump
it aint?
patent jacinth
Just attacking them is a bit more than 10% for everyone else
graceful arch
i have had psyker games with smite where i did over a million damage where i could have done more if enemies just funneled into me instead of being staggered in a corner
patent jacinth
With the exact same inputs you could be running purgatus (also icky) and wiping whatever you're looking at
pallid stump
i have had psyker games with smite where i did over a million damage where i cou...
tell me if im using it bad then, i mostly do it when the team is being overwhelmed for what i thought was some support
cosmic terrace
why is purgatus icky?
pallid stump
i imagine its not being used properly then
cosmic terrace
I like it. It's easy on my wrists lol
patent jacinth
Because it's called inferno now
pallid stump
ohhhh
patent jacinth
But purgatus is cooler
patent jacinth
Yes
pallid stump
ah thank you
patent jacinth
The magic flamethrower
pallid stump
yeh yeh
graceful arch
i just wish ek had more in terms of horde management
also it destroys your fingers
pallid stump
ek?
graceful arch
electro kintetic
pallid stump
ohhh
pallid stump
but like
pallid stump
isnt me using smite to stun the fucking 5 crushers in from of my team good?
tulip kettle
and smite sucks for a number of reasons
its cool to use when youre new and doing palpatine fantasy
graceful arch
and FGS is all the horde clear you need
i run it with deimos 
patent jacinth
isnt me using smite to stun the fucking 5 crushers in from of my team good?
5 crushers isn't that much
tulip kettle
yeah, why
pallid stump
to me it is
tulip kettle
deimos + EK is stupid also
patent jacinth
They'll split up eventually and you can murder them
pallid stump
well alright
patent jacinth
Psykers good melee's can 2-3 tap them
cosmic terrace
deimos + EK is stupid also
what is ek?
pallid stump
which are those?
graceful arch
i run it with deimos <:clueless:946453661096247316>
i just like to have mobility on my melee while still being able to 2-3 tap crusher
pallid stump
like, what are the good melee's?
pallid stump
whenever i use like FGS i just get the DINK
tulip kettle
then you have normal force swords (except why ever illisi)
use heavies on crushers
it wont dink
cosmic terrace
force greatsword psyker best melee
i thought the dueling was the best for psyker? What makes this one better?
tulip kettle
it will splatter em
graceful arch
like, what are the good melee's?
force greatsword, blaze forcesword, dueling sword, also have heard good things about assault chainaxe but personally don't like it
tulip kettle
and cool warp slash
patent jacinth
force greatsword, blaze forcesword, dueling sword, also have heard good things a...
Tac axe
tulip kettle
the only bad thing about FGS is no uncanny
cosmic terrace
what blessings and damage buffs do you go on it?
plucky flax
like, what are the good melee's?
I heard knife is good.
patent jacinth
Knife is also fun
tulip kettle
knife for mobility is great, same as duelling
patent jacinth
Great for voidstrike right side builds
wraith sphinx
i don't like it on crushers :/
just swing harder
tulip kettle
theres just 2 groups really - mobility or more horde clear
patent jacinth
Because you get benefits for all your slots and can hit the speed cap
pallid stump
the only bad thing about FGS is no uncanny
id argue its good, because in my mind one blessing that can just provide that much power in many weapons would render the non uncanny useless (i am like 100% wrongon this idea but
graceful arch
obscurus has quite a bit better horde than deimos right?
tulip kettle
i mean all it means is i cant run it with inferno
wraith sphinx
obscurus has better comboing
tulip kettle
otherwise whocares
pallid stump
fair nuff
plucky flax
obscurus has quite a bit better horde than deimos right?
I find the opposite. Deimos better horde clear for me
patent jacinth
Bad versus horde weapons when perilous combustion
wraith sphinx
🤮
tulip kettle
still not even close to FGS
wraith sphinx
by that metric knife is a good horde clear weapon too
plucky flax
Knife with lacerate is serviceable
cosmic terrace
is flak and carapace refinements good for inferno staff?
tulip kettle
thats fine
plucky flax
Better than ds4
tulip kettle
not carapace
flak and unyielding, or flak and crit chance
inferno does no damage to carapace
graceful arch
it's ogre
tulip kettle
unless you stack uncanny
cosmic terrace
i thought soulblaze cant crit?
graceful arch
1% off
cosmic terrace
ohhh ok
tulip kettle
so like EE
graceful arch
what is the finesse mult supposed to be for the mk 6 knife on heavies and light
tulip kettle
relies on critting
graceful arch
i wonder if the 1% is a dps loss or a rounding error
tulip kettle
more crits = more being alive vs gunners
cosmic terrace
is wildfire still poopy?
graceful arch
is wildfire still poopy?
you run it on non inferno staff builds
ripe obsidian
is wildfire still poopy?
It never was.
graceful arch
you run it on inferno builds too.
no es?
ripe obsidian
you run it on non inferno staff builds
You run it on Inferno as well.
ripe obsidian
Run wildfire on any and all soulblaze builds.
tulip kettle
but yes, wildfire lets cool things happen with KF for example
popping a sniper 40m away that you never saw is awesome
ripe obsidian
Wildfire alone is mediocre. Wildfire with KF, Perilous Combustion, Souldrinker, In Fire Reborn, etc. is fantastic
cosmic terrace
i dont know any of these acronyms. What is es and kf?
tulip kettle
theres an acronym list in the pins
ripe obsidian
And in the build guide
tulip kettle
i have always been the guy saying "wildfire is good actually"
and now i think thats the widely accepted opinion
ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
its bad because, spreading 1 stack to 4 trash mobs isnt great
its good because, everything dying in the spawn door when you transition between areas is cool
ripe obsidian
Wildfire also procs before PC does, so if it's an elite it still works. Huzzah
marble crater
wildfire IS poopy in a number of ways
.
tulip kettle
yeah i mean read the whole thing
marble crater
No, I am still 2% sick, so I will use that as an excuse to cherry pick
tulip kettle
in a vacuum its pretty bad but when you combo it with IFR and souldrinker and KF its pretty fucking good
CLASSIC sut
graceful arch
cosmic terrace
if the inferno staff can only apply a max of 16 stacks, how do you add more stacks on top o that?
marble crater
CLASSIC sut
I'm not sick often enough for that to be classic
bright summit
I will remove WS EK SG builds and put this in instead
i run ws and dds both
ripe obsidian
if the inferno staff can only apply a max of 16 stacks, how do you add more stac...
Perilous Combustion and Creeping Flames
tulip kettle
drop battle med for mettle and JAD for KF
ripe obsidian
drop battle med for mettle and JAD for KF
Agree. Then I think it's identical to my current shriek build
tulip kettle
likewise
graceful arch
drop battle med for mettle and JAD for KF
JAD quietude allows you to survive an insane amount though
ripe obsidian
JaD doesn't have to kill you directly.
It can be something like a tox cloud causing you to be unable to quell enough to actually cast
JaD doesn't offer enough defense to be worth the tradeoff imo
And if you're not surviving with like four or five toughness gen nodes and OwtW, JaD is unlikely to save you
restive stag
personally I've not had it kill me even once
restive stag
not really indirectly either
tulip kettle
its just, doubly bad
ripe obsidian
That's lucky. I've had it screw me over repeatedly. So have other people in here.
restive stag
nono, not talking about within the context of that build
restive stag
That's lucky. I've had it screw me over repeatedly. So have other people in here...
I don't think it's luck so much as how I play
it required some adjustment to how I used to play before I really started to feel it's use
ripe obsidian
I mean, when I'm hovering at 70% or higher peril most of the match, one hit at a bad time can be death
Or a tox bomber or a fire bomber
restive stag
s'what I mean yeah, adjustment
it doesn't really do anything for you at critical peril
ripe obsidian
It doesn't do anything at critical peril, no.
pallid stump
six, quick question
ripe obsidian
But myriad other things benefit from high peril
restive stag
but I don't play at critical peril at all times, especially with JaD
pallid stump
when is the right time to use smite?
ripe obsidian
when is the right time to use smite?
To quickly knock things over to stun things that are too close, to push bursters away
pallid stump
i see
ripe obsidian
When you need a moment to reposition
pallid stump
so it isnt with the charged attack i take it?
modest perch
restive stag
for the whole mission
mmmno, not that one
modest perch
i will create more smitebots
ripe obsidian
so it isnt with the charged attack i take it?
As in RMB? Use it sparingly. LMB is often a better choice.
pallid stump
i used the charge attack for stunning large groups but apperantly that isnt good enough
ah ok so im doing it wrong
thanks
restive stag
I tihnk it comes down to game-sense
ripe obsidian
The problem is usually that doing other things is more effective than smiting
ripe obsidian
Pls no shout
restive stag
if you know you're going to need a smite preemptively it's better to use rmb just because it spreads faster and stunlocks harder
it's just, often youre not fully charging it
and/or cancelling it early
pallid stump
i am not shouting i am simply expressing my feelings loudly
pallid stump
my apologies kind sir
ripe obsidian
but I don't play at critical peril at all times, especially with JaD
I think JaD is a very strong defensive node. But for me and a number of people I have spoken with, the risk is not worth the gain. Is preference
pallid stump
might as well just use assail if i want to make a blitz my main "weapon"
restive stag
I think JaD is a very strong defensive node. But for me and a number of people I...
I would agree wholeheartedly!
definitely a play-style thing
pallid stump
JaD?
restive stag
just a dream
pallid stump
thank ye
restive stag
might as well just use assail if i want to make a blitz my main "weapon"
I have this as one of my builds, pretty fun if I'm just doin' aurics
ripe obsidian
The only time I have been happy to see a smyker was in a rotten armor stims game where my other two teammates couldn't stay upright.
pallid stump
gotta look again at the "brain blast" build
pallid stump
as his main weapon?
zealous wing
one of them
pallid stump
see that's the thing i wish was different abouut psyker
that blitz could be the main weapon
and you'd upgrade them
restive stag
it can be
tulip kettle
but nobody likes smite main weapon
pallid stump
i know
restive stag
I mean.. I dunno about smite being a main weapon but 100% assail
tulip kettle
because either, in low difficulties they dont get to play
tulip kettle
and in high you do nothing
yeah for sure
you can build around it being a solid part of your kit that you use a lot
pallid stump
wdym?
tulip kettle
play with only burst
pallid stump
only blasting the brains?
tulip kettle
get 100% weakspot rate
pallid stump
i wish it was viable
tulip kettle
i mean, you see above
i did it
cant lie though its hard to intentionally push stuff away to burst it instead of just killing it with the sword
restive stag
it's viable with a good team I suppose
pallid stump
well but was it a good experiance?
tulip kettle
well but was it a good experiance?
no.
pallid stump
see
thats the problem
i mean i can always just
Force sword + a close range weapon and brain pop the hard to hit targets
ripe obsidian
I am currently being converted to the church of superiority + uncanny force sword for my Inferno shriek build.
restive stag
it consumes so much peril for how.. relatively low the dps is compared to actually slow firing hard hitting weapons
tulip kettle
I am currently being converted to the church of superiority + uncanny force swor...
yeah i think its good
but the few times you really need deflector
pallid stump
it consumes so much peril for how.. relatively low the dps is compared to actual...
yeah-
tulip kettle
you will just die without it
restive stag
even with kr and ep
pallid stump
i do not care how many people the inquisition sends at me i will never use the dueling sword
tulip kettle
its one of those - 1 in 1000 times i need deflector
ripe obsidian
yeah i think its good
tulip kettle
but when i need it i just need it
zealous wing
i do not care how many people the inquisition sends at me i will never use the d...
me using the DS right now because reasons
:(
its fine,
pallid stump
i dont like it
tulip kettle
and you can do that pretty much the same with uncanny
yeah sure superiority pog
but uncanny doing the heavy lifting
ripe obsidian
Superiority doubles my uncanny soulblaze damage against crushers
pallid stump
true
ripe obsidian
With just uncanny it's like 300 damage per tick. Superiority is 700+
restive stag
big fan of illisi
tulip kettle
i think you are also increasing stacks with PC there
pallid stump
gun psyker isnt a thing is it?
zealous wing
gunker is 100% a thing
pallid stump
its mostly melee with scrier's
restive stag
it's a thing for sure
ripe obsidian
i think you are also increasing stacks with PC there
This is at 31 stacks in both, I believe. I can test again later
zealous wing
the entire game is mostly melee
tulip kettle
nah SB does over 300 dmg per tick on max uncanny at just 16
pallid stump
my veteran build would like to disagree
ripe obsidian
gun psyker isnt a thing is it?
It is. I have half a dozen gunker builds in the guide
zealous wing
do you mag dump into hordes?
pallid stump
do you mag dump into hordes?
p much
pallid stump
i use the high ammo braced autogun
zealous wing
ew
zealous wing
brauto
pallid stump
but ew
ripe obsidian
nah SB does over 300 dmg per tick on max uncanny at just 16
I need to test again, then. Can't recall
restive stag
melee staffker my beloved
pallid stump
ill give some thought on what to do with gunker
tulip kettle
and i dont see how 37% str can double your DPS
pallid stump
for now ill use the gun class
tulip kettle
like dont get me wrong 37% str is GIGA
zealous wing
reconlas or vraks infauto are the gotos for gunker
tulip kettle
but really its taking it from 0.05 ADM to 100 thats doing the work
restive stag
isn't str multiplicative to most normal damage bonuses
that could have somethin' to do with it
ripe obsidian
but really its taking it from 0.05 ADM to 100 thats doing the work
Well, yes, but uncanny is a given. Is such an OP blessing.
zealous wing
dom im gonna roll for a good flamer and get the mastery up, shouldnt take long
ripe obsidian
Uncanny needs to be nerfed hard and carapace ADMs across the board need to increase
tulip kettle
like i say superiority feels pretty fuckin good but that 1 in 1000 times where i try to block the firing squad and just die makes it feel bad
tulip kettle
POGGERU
ripe obsidian
like i say superiority feels pretty fuckin good but that 1 in 1000 times where i...
Currently I am using Superiority with bubble and still deflector with shriek
zealous wing
to confirm is dmg dump, yes? i saw people talking about it in zealot but i genuinely dunno if trolling or not
id think mob
tulip kettle
the difference between 60 and 80 dmg i like, 4 dmg
the dmg doesnt come from the direct dmg same as inferno
its from the burning
zealous wing
k, just wanted to confirm i wasnt getting trolled hard
tulip kettle
i dont think you need to full dump it though, burn only needs to be 76
its been a while
restive stag
pretty sure that's correct
ripe obsidian
I believe burn at 76 technically decreases the rapidity of applying fire stacks, but in such a minimal way that it hardly matters
tulip kettle
on flamer? blaze away and either overpressure or penetrating
marble crater
First game after a week and I get someone screaming in my ear
tulip kettle
then flakding
royal totem
Is hexis playing zealot in havoc?
zealous wing
just did first mission with flamer and DS, ever, so idk if its havoc ready
if we did havoc i'd probably be a good zealot and go chorus marty thammer
tulip kettle
nah youd play shriek inferno and i would try surge surge
zealous wing
truuuuue
it'll be nice getting to h40 one day, and not have to worry so much about bringing good builds
zealous wing
nice
lone ravine
it’s… perfect
modest perch
its so beautiful
im not empowering it at all
the difference between 70-80dmg is basically nothing
78 burn is the same as 80 n the difference between 76-80 range is like 1cm
royal totem
Id explode more using that
tulip kettle
ok surge surge very fun i am fully converted
modest perch
Id explode more using that
ok but just dont explode so much
royal totem
ok surge surge very fun i am fully converted
Can you send me surge surge build?
tulip kettle
im running this
others may do it slightly differently
better with a second psyker doing soulblaze stuff
strong gulch
RIP to the other psyker who was also EP BB inferno.
strong gulch
If I was EK, then I would def claim that I stole. We were both shriek inferno. So I don't claim thievery this time. 
In they were shield... then I think I would be a thief.
royal totem
I explode on shield
pale prairie
I cant get myself to love disrupt destiny
DD is amazing
royal totem
See...i dun like hunting for blue enemies 🙁
weary crane
My feed is so cooked bro
marble crater
Very concerning
surreal obsidian
warp unbound, when its active for 10 seconds, why do i die within these 10 seconds?!!!
i just cant wrap my head around it
royal totem
Uhhhhh damage taken? I assu.e
tulip kettle
warp unbound, when its active for 10 seconds, why do i die within these 10 secon...
its like, 9.6 seconds
it makes a sound when it ends
surreal obsidian
i dont get it
zealous wing
do you have crystal will?
zealous wing
its really bugged so was wondering if that was the cause
tulip kettle
zealous wing
royal totem
BUT WHY
royal totem
Lmao
zealous wing
quick brb
royal totem
What are you two playing?
royal totem
Im gone for hours. I was just curious if you were doing that in havoc
marble crater
just chilling in damn rn
That's how I got covid, just fyi
royal totem
That's how I got covid, just fyi
Damned from playing damnation
marble crater
Yes, I will never do it again
pallid stump
is braced auto gun good for gunker?
i mean actually
the way i wanna play gunker
is just a worse vet
royal totem
Ammo might be an issue in havoc but i cant confirm
prime elk
is braced auto gun good for gunker?
Not really
Since gunker scales hard off finesse
While braced doesn’t really have finesse
obtuse walrus
I just like big sword
I just wish psyker got a cool hat
That doesn't cover their face
royal totem
I want a top hat
obtuse walrus
And a new staff. (please Obese megaladon, give me Biomancy)
Let me suck the energy out of my foes and grant my teammates toughness and maybe stim effects
royal totem
Sounds op
royal totem
I dont dream of weapons. I just play game
obtuse walrus
I mean the idea I had was something like the soul meter the FGS has
royal totem
And dream of stims no longer being a modifier
obtuse walrus
I mean it's in Rogue Trader
The biomancy stuff...
Staff ideas idk
Another thing too. I wish psykers had more cosmetics that added fucked up mutations
royal totem
The secret is my reaction speed too slow to dodge slide
strong gulch
Team slow reaction. 🤝
zealous wing
keeping 3 newbies alive as a shroudfield zealot with a flamer and a DS feels very much a struggle
royal totem
Team slow reaction. 🤝
Sometimes when using very fast weps my brain works faster and i have temporarily faster reaction times
zealous wing
Why you keeping 3 alive
because im with my newbie friend, and 2 randoms
they all went down at least 3 times, at the same time
in different areas
royal totem
because im with my newbie friend, and 2 randoms
ah. condolances. sometimes it's a struggle yea.
zealous wing
revive speed curios and talents coming in very handy lol
at least i have the movement knowledge for it
royal totem
fair enough
playing psyker i assume?
oh wait no
im dumb dumb
this morning was a slog in havoc. idk what tonight will bring
fierce crest
so is six's build bonanza supplanting the atheneum nowadays?
prime elk
athenum died a long time ago tbh
zealous wing
:(
fierce crest
strong gulch
There's still useful stuff in the atheneum, but build relevant things are largely out of date and have been for a long time.
royal totem
^^
ripe obsidian
I will probably be about in <=1 hour. I need to adjust the EK + SG part of the guide and rearrange one other thing, but if folks want to do havoc?
ripe obsidian
I am a noob, so it fits
royal totem
it's one thing deranking practicing 30s or 40s. it's another deranking from dc's or rage quits 🙁
sturdy reef
I am a nob as well
royal totem
all you true survivors calling yourself noobs smh
stuck spruce
why dodge when you can stop shots with your forehead
restive stag
big man is cover for the rest of the team afterall
strong gulch
About half way through a movie. If y'all are still doing havocs and have a spot, I'd like to join.
royal totem
so i tried out the SG EK build.......
and idk how i feel. like the m1 is really good against gunners and such but how am i supposed to deal with hordes with it
candid temple
fgs
royal totem
ok i don't think i can play this build then
candid temple
or you let your inferno staffer teammate burn 'em
royal totem
i tragically almost never have inferno teammates
royal totem
i think i'm going back to inferno shriek
errr
EK shriek not inferno
the biggest plus of SG shriek is i can't kill myself by overloading even when i actively try to kill myself
zealous wing
@royal totem
royal totem
mm?
zealous wing
was gonna ask if you wanted to join a friend and i but he going to bed
royal totem
damn
zealous wing
:(
royal totem
i'm doing......nothing at the moment
i'm literally standing near mission terminal doing nothing
zealous wing
hmmmmmm
zealous wing
zealous wing
basically, assume all gunners are a death sentence
royal totem
nvm none on the board
zealous wing
if youre a psyker with reconlas you can rely on EE
royal totem
yeah. no amazing tools though as arb
royal totem
i forgot that in ascension riser moving the train exposes more gunners
and i got gunned down
royal totem
i HATE the first event
zealous wing
final event is fine, but yeah everything between is bad
royal totem
yes. i know right?
zealous wing
the subrail section sucks, the mid event sucks
royal totem
subrail isn't like the worst thing ever but i don't like it
there are a lot of boss triggers there
zealous wing
if you have 10 reapers at one end, and youre on the other, it sucks
if youre a psyker, it sucks less
royal totem
i think it's also kinda ass there's a boss trigger sometime during the mid-event
getting twins there is kinda a death sentence imo.
zealous wing
also, we could do an assassination anytime btw now
campaign playlist in the terminal
zealous wing
i could also just run it, if you dont wanna. its genuinely up to you
royal totem
i'll try out oggy again
modest perch
the bombers chucking nades over the trains made me hate ascension riser
that room alone makes it a solid contender for worst map
ripe obsidian
getting twins there is kinda a death sentence imo.
The issue with twins is almost always a lack of focus. Ideally, one person should be controlling the horde while the other three blow up the twins. Their shields are timed rather than damage gated, so good focus can kill them in one rotation
cosmic cobalt
or people just focused on the wrong one lmao
royal totem
The issue with twins is almost always a lack of focus. Ideally, one person shoul...
yeah am aware but on the other hand...... people just kinda are bad at focusing
strong gulch
Movie is done.
royal totem
good good 😄
i was doing one of my penances slowly
@ripe obsidian are you busy?
i needed some advice lmao.
if i'm the only psyker playing SG EK you would say my best option for horde clearing is force sword right/
strong gulch
If there's space between you and the horde, spam them with LMB until they are in melee range. Then stab. You can also dance away while peppering them until melee is needed too.
That's any EK LMB.
strong gulch
ye
but I mean for when shriek is down and there's a horde
restive stag
and idk how i feel. like the m1 is really good against gunners and such but...
melee weapon of some kind
celest valve
a note that gunners also tend to lock onto a target and ignore other targets
so if you hear someone else getting shot at by gunners, you're probably safe to shoot at from another angle
ripe obsidian
or people just focused on the wrong one lmao
Pls kill the melee twin that has been chasing your psyker for two full minutes.
cosmic cobalt
turn out having kinetic deflection don't save you from bad teammates
strong gulch
Pls kill the melee twin that has been chasing your psyker for two full minutes.
If doing havocs, I can play tonight.
ripe obsidian
turn out having kinetic deflection don't save you from bad teammates
I often end up in situations where the boss(es) is chasing me and I can't find space to do anything, especially if it's c spawn or the melee twin. I can survive a very long time in these situations, but can't put out meaningful damage.
rain wren
I often end up in situations where the boss(es) is chasing me and I can't find s...
Lol yeah it's the flaws of having high damage
The enemy targeting has to do with what's in it's vicinity, the damage, and what abilities are in use. I like it when it's my arbite doing high damage because I can take it when bosses are after me but not so much as psyker
dapper grotto
played a mission
it was so hard to keep dd stacks up
it seemed like every time something got highlighted a teammate immediately stabbed it
dapper grotto
and then because voidstrike and assail do voidstrike and assail things, they don't actually one shot the dreg bruisers to the head until you have like six to ten stacks
so building up to that point was a pain in the rearplate
so average stacks of 12
on an auric maelstrom
still beat everyone else in damage tho
fierce dew
hey should I keep using the Agri Revolver? On one hand its very fun but on the other hand I wanna try diversify my build
ive just maxed my rarity on one so
ripe obsidian
If doing havocs, I can play tonight.
was my plan
is saturday night, time to lose missions
ripe obsidian
The enemy targeting has to do with what's in it's vicinity, the damage, and what...
I do love having a dedicated boss/crusher killer on my team
makes me feel safe
ripe obsidian
hey should I keep using the Agri Revolver? On one hand its very fun but on the o...
agri revolver is fun, but I do not believe it's one of the better guns for vet
sorry, psyker
just logged into my vet, hence the mixup
restive stag
agri is fan fire yes?
if so i think it actually has more potential on psyker than vet
just because crit shenanagins could make its damage kinda nutty
and you have fallbacks on psyker for other situations anyways
royal totem
i joke i can totally play havocs with Six! dies over and over
dapper grotto
we can probably do a couple havocs
ripe obsidian
@summer prairie @plucky flax updated the EK SG section.
royal totem
last time i played havoc with Six i died over and over again
royal totem
who's "we" 😮
dapper grotto
prefer playing fire psyker on havocs
royal totem
i'm just an opressor main 🙁
dapper grotto
who's "we" 😮
just how we talk. easiest way to understand is just call it a royal we
ripe obsidian
last time i played havoc with Six i died over and over again
so did I
rain wren
Lol six I got your six
zealous wing
i always died first, nemui
royal totem
i have a little more experience with dying light 2 now though
cuz my friend dragged me into like 10
none successful but ya know
zealous wing
getting the hang of DS myself, so, zealot might be havoc-able
royal totem
i have committed the grave sin of deranking my friend and it is a blemish upon my soul
dapper grotto
people have high ranks in havocs?
zealous wing
nah, derank means nothing
dapper grotto
we kept 40 for like three weeks after havoc release
and just... haven't gone back much afterwards
royal totem
Hexis
today i died on the AScension riser bridge
because i got hit by a plasma gunner and knocked off
royal totem
i can deal with them okay norms but like that bridge is hard cuz no space
ripe obsidian
@strong gulch and whoever else, invites me so we can goof off in havoc
royal totem
<@417891087500312576> and whoever else, invites me so we can goof off in havoc
what havoc are you doing?
dapper grotto
or nexus
zealous wing
<@417891087500312576> and whoever else, invites me so we can goof off in havoc
yeah what havoc
ripe obsidian
what havoc are you doing?
Whatever. I am not picky
ripe obsidian
blaze away + penetrating?
blaze away + warp nexus
zealous wing
im willing to derank further
ripe obsidian
can also do blaze + penetrating flames, but I am not a fan of that one
zealous wing
ripe obsidian
Blaze Away is more or less mandatory
royal totem
i'd play that one with you hexis
ripe obsidian
I'll play whatever