psyker-class

[pale prairie]

whoooooooooooa

wait you were bubble inferno???

[ripe obsidian]

unfortunately

[pale prairie]

damn that vet

what happened

[ripe obsidian]

Unfortunate things

Which is to say, I don't know

[pale prairie]

whyd you even bubble?

[ripe obsidian]

They asked me to

Which makes the 100k damage per minute more impressive

[pale prairie]

wow a man of the people

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-smart-princess-bride-grandpa-funny-gif-5253871429487941597

[ripe obsidian]

Probably would've lost sooner without bubble, given the outcome

[pale prairie]

honestly yeah BUT counterpoint more things dead means less danger for inept teammates

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. The ogryn and arby were fine, but I was too frustrated to go again, even though they wanted to

Watching someone sprint out of the bubble to tackle a BoN

[thorn cedar]

<.< how and when the fuck did i --

am i a hacker

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[thorn cedar]

hell yea

time to hack the planet

[ripe obsidian]

17 crushers killed with soulblaze per powerdi

[pale prairie]

nice

[pale prairie]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Okay @solid pond you got me, superiority is neat

Especially when the crushers are purple

[pale prairie]

when power sword is the best melee weapon

[pale prairie]

superiority?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, uncanny + superiority force sword

instead of deflector

[pale prairie]

ooooooh

[ripe obsidian]

is very safe on bubble. Less safe on shriek

But the crusher damage is inarguable

[pale prairie]

yeah

crushers so fat that strength blessings just get more valuable

[ripe obsidian]

The strength blessing is slightly less than Blaze Away, but lasts 7 seconds (gone when swapping off melee) and is lovely with uncanny

Get 15 stacks of soulblaze, then push attack and poke things

[strong gulch]

PA not working with superiority makes me kinda sad.

force sword

[strong gulch]

same

[verbal thistle]

https://youtu.be/Ys9USMZ53CQ @rich spindle

[rich spindle]

sick

ty

[royal totem]

i crashed lmao

[zealous wing]

oof

[tulip kettle]

still counts as a win 🙂

and only a lil abusing

[royal totem]

yeah i'm aware counts

but fucking game crashing lmao

"we fixed issue where when your game ends you don't crash" ---fatshark

[tulip kettle]

yeah they fixed the issue where you dont crash

[royal totem]

LOL

i'm not the best at zealot. but am ok ish i suppose

[tulip kettle]

you did great 🙂

[zealous wing]

did fine

[royal totem]

i only pull out zealot once in a while

[tulip kettle]

i enjoyed when i dodged the mutie and it grabbed you near the stairs

its like i saw the future

[royal totem]

oh i didn't realize you dodged. i just heard the mutie and then got grabbed

i only bring spearheead boltgun to magdump bosses lmao

[tulip kettle]

meh if it works it wors

we didnt really struggle with the bosses much

[royal totem]

and i just realized for some reason i have 80 mobility 60 stability. which is not good

[tulip kettle]

except that captain not letting me res you guys for a while

[zealous wing]

"its the zealots problem"

[royal totem]

i did magdump a few of them

which did soften them a good bit lmao

[tulip kettle]

are you returning?

[royal totem]

it kicked me out of the strike team

lmao

i assumed you guys disbanded or something

[zealous wing]

its cuz you crashed

[royal totem]

ah

i'm already back in game lol but again depends what you're doing

i kept hearing "just kill it. it's shrimple." in my mind -_- i think catmiral has typed that to me one too many times

[ripe obsidian]

Kill them before they kill you.

[royal totem]

@zealous wing my game is bugged again. didn't join strike team chat >.>

[zealous wing]

uh

[stoic wagon]

they actually made being in cover life and death in havoc 30<

[zealous wing]

we havoc again, wait for beans to finish mission perhaps if he wants to join us as 4th

[royal totem]

ok can do that.

[stoic wagon]

"wanna know how it feels being hailed a wall of lasguns"

[zealous wing]

as a psyker, it feels like nothing, so long as i have bullets

EE babyyyyy

[zealous wing]

i would actually kill for a meme deck of MTG cards

bring that to some game where a bunch of people are ready for an actual match and i pull out this kind of shit

[tulip kettle]

dont worry you can just get TMNT spiderman and spongebob cards instead -.-

8/8 for 2 mana also

craterhoof could never

[royal totem]

that's some damn mana efficiency

just give it haste or trample and....... xD

i still can't see strike team chat fyi. this game so bugged 🙁

[zealous wing]

we figuring out which havoc

[plucky flax]

Vpn used to break my text chat in game

[ripe obsidian]

how many people do you have?

[royal totem]

that sounds terrible

[ripe obsidian]

I see this Inferno build in the havoc queue. It isn't the worst I have seen, but... crit aura and no EE?

[strong gulch]

come back

[royal totem]

sorry. late. not playing too well at the moment

gonna sleep

[strong gulch]

good point about sleep

thank you very much for games

[royal totem]

i'm also not a very good zealot lmao

[strong gulch]

me neither

[royal totem]

like i say this about every class i play but it's especially true of zealot. cuz i don't play it much

[strong gulch]

i just hit book and forget about knives

[royal totem]

true level on zealot isn't even 100

i run the grenades

for no real reason

[proper spoke]

To be fair grenades are fun to use. But annoying when a teammate uses them. I can’t tell the difference between good fire and bad fire

[ripe obsidian]

game crashed

[royal totem]

i can't either

[ripe obsidian]

omw back

[royal totem]

sometimes grenades make it hard for me to see the twins poop grenades

[ripe obsidian]

I run grenades because I cain't aim knives

[royal totem]

when i say i'm going to go sleep........it really translates to i'm gonna decompress an hour and then sleep

[royal totem]

my friend is pretty good at knives. but me? i'm bad at them

i'm not used to the tiny dot thing

and i forget that i don't need to pull it out and then throw

g auto throws

it's not a pull out then click again to throw

[proper spoke]

I mostly throw fire grenades at my feet when i hear hounds and i know my team are probably going to wander off

[royal totem]

shrugs idk how to use them at all really

i guess i could chuck it at my feet when doing objectives

or sumthing

[proper spoke]

Some monstrosities are weak to fire, apparently. And yeah, if there’s fire, hounds won’t be able to hold you down

[ripe obsidian]

nah, they're all unyielding afaik

should all be the same damage modifiers

[proper spoke]

Ah ok. I was just going by something someone said once in game. Then i did zero research or testing

I appreciate the correction

[ripe obsidian]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

Here is the font of knowledge

Also linked in both of my pins in this channel

Kuli is a true tech priest

[zealous wing]

it could be they tested a flamer on all the creatures, but didnt check how much number wise their hp is

[tulip kettle]

i think fire has good ADM vs unyielding

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[tulip kettle]

so like, they are all equally weak to fire

[ripe obsidian]

I just went through twins without taking any damage only to die to a random shooter meleeing me 3x

I am so bad

[tulip kettle]

press rdy

[ripe obsidian]

I did!

[zealous wing]

inch by inch, i crawl ever closer

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-bon-jovi-take-my-hand-livin-on-a-prayer-outstretched-arm-1986-gif-7882283258857395837

[ripe obsidian]

    [armor_types.unarmored] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.armored] = 1,
    [armor_types.resistant] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.player] = 0.125,
    [armor_types.berserker] = 1,
    [armor_types.super_armor] = 0.1,
    [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = 1.25,
    [armor_types.void_shield] = 1,
}
local burninating_warp_adm = {
    [armor_types.unarmored] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.armored] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.resistant] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.player] = 0.125,
    [armor_types.berserker] = 1,
    [armor_types.super_armor] = 0.1,
    [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = 1.25,
    [armor_types.void_shield] = 1,```

[zealous wing]

its only taken 2 months

i thought it'd be like, a year

[ripe obsidian]

150% adms on unyielding for fire and warpfire

[zealous wing]

but then, havoc

[tulip kettle]

not 1.25?

[quartz flare]

I think it would be fun if EP would actually ENPOWER the blitzes. Like HUGE DPS buffs

BR: Way more damage and way less charge time but remove no peril.

Smite: Deal 500% damage but give it a cooldown or a charge timer. making it act like a lightning shotgun

Assail: Fewer rounds and slower charge but significantly improved armor penetration. and visually larger shards while we're at it.

What do you think?

[ripe obsidian]

It would be more interesting than the current iteration. Smite needs a cooldown to begin with

@tulip kettle https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/f069bde1ebdca0d0b9429b98d24eaf2c14acf32d/scripts/settings/breed/breeds/chaos/chaos_plague_ogryn_breed.lua#L69

[royal totem]

no. smite needs no cooldown ever! mehehehehe. it should be buffed to spread even faster and allow kinetic flayer troll face

[quartz flare]

I think this way we could even compensate with the lack of staff variety.

The Blitz acting as a second staff.

I think the current EP mainly focuses on less peril too much. Make it the other way around. do even more peril but do actual damage.

[verbal thistle]

any bubble psykers wanna try something real quick

I got a funny idea

it'll be an easy H40 clear

[royal totem]

so easy even i could do it? lmao. i'm jking i'm probs not skilled enough

[verbal thistle]

I need you to run all the CDR you can and bubble

thats all

[royal totem]

i'm also trying very hard to decompress

try hexis they might be interested

[verbal thistle]

@zealous wing wanna try something?

easy H40 clear

[quartz flare]

IMO psykers were all about being unstable and high risk high return. SO the idea of "Empowering" the psykic aspect making you more stable at warp abilities never stuck with me.

[royal totem]

some people say sleep is overrated but i say sleep is often underrated

[quartz flare]

FRFR

[royal totem]

how about a brain burst that one shots a crushers and creates a large explosion around it lmaoooo

but locks you out of brain bursting for 15 seconds or something idk

[quartz flare]

that would be cool af

[royal totem]

idk how to balance anything

all i know is i hate crushers and want their puny minds going boom

[quartz flare]

we already have something like the explosion.
In the mortis trials one BB chains to the other mobs.

[royal totem]

idk i don 't play mortis sadly

[quartz flare]

I want to but nobody to play with 🙁

anyways it's a cool concept which should be implemented to the base game.

[ripe obsidian]

bolt

oops

Meant to put that in search

[quartz flare]

I genuinely think most warp attacks in general lack damage compared to their peril generation. inferno and lmb being the exception.

[tulip kettle]

i think voidblast is pretty okay as long as you play with ER

you can cast essentially forever if you quell when sliding between casts

but then i guess youre using ER so maybe it doesnt count

[quartz flare]

well voidblast could be stronger damage wise. If they lessen the stagger.

[plucky flax]

Let's do 4 psykers havoc im calling dip on bubble knight

[quartz flare]

Anyways back to my original point that EP should be changed to be more aggressive, even lore-wise empowering your psionics giving you more stability for your blitz makes no sense. One is insane, one is rouge, and even the trained one constantly struggle with the warp. Only a few humans can "master" the warp.
So all I'm saying is that EP should make us go more ballistic not more disciplined.

[quartz flare]

Something like the Unchiained class form V2.

[plucky flax]

Karien

Pls no flame by staring

[ripe obsidian]

why is veteran squishier than psyker

[strong gulch]

madge

[zealous wing]

quick brb

[tulip kettle]

did you at least get the win

if not thats giga poop

[strong gulch]

hope so

my build was jus too broken

broke the game

[tulip kettle]

i mean

it worked pretty fking well

[strong gulch]

oh yeah?

also yay I got credit

[tulip kettle]

i would say so

[strong gulch]

@zealous wing where barrel clip

[zealous wing]

will need to cut but i have it

irl first tho

[strong gulch]

kk

[tulip kettle]

@ripe obsidian

[strong gulch]

true

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[strong gulch]

@tulip kettle can you post scoreboard

[tulip kettle]

i updated and lost blitz mod

apologies

[strong gulch]

np

Thanks for board.

Uhhh my 11 burning kills are really funny.

[tulip kettle]

i wonder how THOSE happened.

also this fuckin goony cleepus guy

[ripe obsidian]

I died so much, holy moly

[tulip kettle]

stealing my trash mobs

i mean getting turned into the pinball by cspawn doesnt really count

[deft stump]

Is that Six?

[tulip kettle]

yeah lol

[ripe obsidian]

I am bad at veteran

[strong gulch]

My friendly fire dmage. 😭

bad friend

[deft stump]

Not high enough?

[tulip kettle]

It WaS An AciDeNt

[strong gulch]

45 while everyone else didn't do any

[tulip kettle]

😠

[strong gulch]

🥺

[ripe obsidian]

I was, at least, the king of crusher damage

Go forth, krak

20% of my total damage was crushers

[strong gulch]

thanks krak

[deft stump]

Oh. Beans and barrels.

[ripe obsidian]

I am mostly playing vet to justify having so many outfits

[tulip kettle]

based

[ripe obsidian]

I have four premium store shirts

[strong gulch]

7k melks gambled and not a single FGS.

[tulip kettle]

but WHY

[strong gulch]

i need all 76 stats

on FGS

[tulip kettle]

i repeat the question

[strong gulch]

BECAUSE I'M WELL

cough

not hyperfocused on a thing at all

[tulip kettle]

most hinged psyker

[strong gulch]

yes

[dusk wren]

does anyone know if in mortis trial, indulgences that work on ranged attacks also apply to smite

[tulip kettle]

lol

[ripe obsidian]

my guess is no, but I am not sure

[tulip kettle]

i would also think no

[strong gulch]

there was one in there, but it's wrong

[dusk wren]

wow mortis trial is garbo

[tulip kettle]

but the odds of anyone playing mortis, and then using smite, is pretty slim

[dusk wren]

i will be the pretty slim

[tulip kettle]

okay this is perfectionism taken to the extreme

[strong gulch]

but

[strong gulch]

crashout 76

also

[ripe obsidian]

I kinda liked FO76. The exploration at least

[strong gulch]

such rare finds

[dusk wren]

that curio overhaul can't come fast enough

[tulip kettle]

instantly punished by the DT gods.

[zealous wing]

@strong gulch @tulip kettle

[ripe obsidian]

I think I just got swatted out of the air while being tossed by a burster. Something bonked me while I was trying to push it, argh

[strong gulch]

clip

😭

[tulip kettle]

intentional.

malice aforethought

[strong gulch]

laser pee

[zealous wing]

this is where the plogryn threw me

[strong gulch]

Actually laughing at how that map just treated us and how we shock pickachu face.

[zealous wing]

though, technically i think it was a barrel? or a burster? i have no fucking idea. i got barreled backwards/sideways, then flew forward, into that corner, then wedged

[tulip kettle]

it saw you door trolling

and gave us group punishment

[strong gulch]

I'm gonna blame me for the barrel. I know there was one nearby, but I was trying to stay away from it but also get the horde so we could have space to move.

[ripe obsidian]

I need to get better at movement and positioning on vet

[tulip kettle]

these guys are having FUN

they think this is a JOKE

we cant be having that!

[zealous wing]

ido think it was funny that i got you not once

but twice

withthe same door

[strong gulch]

i saw it

[tulip kettle]

shut up.

you played great as always

everyone did, it was fun, thank you

[ripe obsidian]

I'm too spoiled by being a slippery little psyker

[plucky flax]

No it wasn't good enough

Get better

[ripe obsidian]

I have not seen this one

[strong gulch]

it's so funny'

the flop

[plucky flax]

Unsanctioned was about to pop off with yellow stim

Why could had been

[ripe obsidian]

My favorite clip is still my plan. But I am biased

[strong gulch]

your plan was great

😭

[ripe obsidian]

Kick.

[strong gulch]

then i didn't learn and got similarly stuck

[tulip kettle]

my favourite

[strong gulch]

What a bunch of toons.

[tulip kettle]

has died with a yeeted

[strong gulch]

yes lmao

[dusk wren]

owned

[strong gulch]

😭

[dusk wren]

owned by antispam bot

[zealous wing]

im gonna guess too many images or clips

[dusk wren]

it was prob an hacked account

[zealous wing]

ah youre not wrong

[dusk wren]

the new bots post like 5 images of some trading stuff

[zealous wing]

"new" messages in a few chats... nothing present

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[solid pond]

WASD helps

[long saddle]

yeah I find it easier to just WASD instead of aiming the mouse for strafing stuff

[fierce dew]

FGS gameplay really does give you maximum serotonin

As well as the feeling you should be playing some hard af music in the background

…harder then Disposal Unit

(And by FGS I mean Melee-Psyker build)

[long saddle]

yeah I've been having a lot of fun with bubble knight

carried a team with it in maelstrom yesterday

[ripe obsidian]

I prefer to stand still and move by burster explosions.

[fierce dew]

I’m having fun with “nah, I’d win”

Chain smite, telekinetic shriek (the upgraded one), Soulblaze upgrades, electrocution on melee upgrades, and then that one upgrade that converts damage to peril and peril = toughness

I’ve literally solo’d waves with that

And it goes HARD

[zealous wing]

im testing the shroudfield thunder hammer thing dom and i saw in a havoc yesterday, i do see why its fun... but, for havoc? i dont see how its much better than just, FOTF

[fierce dew]

Oh and when the dreg gunner comes, you fan them with the Agripina Stub Revolver you have

[zealous wing]

like, haha yay insta boss delete but, what about the second monster

theres always another

[fierce dew]

You kite it to your party and wait until you can do it again

[zealous wing]

ok but, aggrodumping when the one job you have as a zealot is to kill it, especially agro dumping it on the psykers.... ehhhhhh

[long saddle]

yeah I think for havoc you wanna just FOTF, more consistent

[fierce dew]

Well in that case you hope the Psyker took Smite and can slow it down

[long saddle]

like you're gonna have to melee all game anyway

[zealous wing]

HAHAHAHA

[long saddle]

that does nothing on bosses tho

[zealous wing]

"let the smyker slow it down"

thats a good one

[fierce dew]

That’s what I do lmao

[zealous wing]

ill let them be the bait, good idea

[fierce dew]

Slow it down then fan the fucker

[solid pond]

hell yeah

[patent jacinth]

Smite literally does nothing to bosses

Except like

[long saddle]

ye it's bait on two levels

[fierce dew]

Weird for me it slows them down a bit

[patent jacinth]

The pitiful damage bonus

[fierce dew]

Honest to god I take smite for the stun on everything else, it’s a godsend when one of your guys gets swarmed by 15 reapers

[long saddle]

yeah but then what

[fierce dew]

You run the fuck away lmao

[patent jacinth]

I will not be caught dead running smite

[long saddle]

could just kill them instead

[zealous wing]

reapers arent hard to kill

[long saddle]

crit them and you evade their shots

[fierce dew]

They are for me they’re a bastard to kill

[zealous wing]

ive finished their bestiary before ive finished the dodge their shots penance

[patent jacinth]

You have agri revolver

[long saddle]

they melt to FGS heavies

[patent jacinth]

The weapon with a 176% unyielding damage modifier

[zealous wing]

i literally kill them way too fast

[long saddle]

get some DD stacks and it's a oneshot

[fierce dew]

It takes mag dumping them in the head to kill them

Then I have to reload

[patent jacinth]

What

Huh

[zealous wing]

then youre doing something wrong

[fierce dew]

I’m literally fanning their head with a maxxed Agri revolver

[long saddle]

are you running DD

[fierce dew]

DD?

[patent jacinth]

That should be entirely impossible unless you're in havoc or running an extremely low stated weapon

[long saddle]

disrupt destiny

right lower keystone

[fierce dew]

….im level 25 I uh…am not down there

[long saddle]

ah

[patent jacinth]

It still shouldn't take 5 shots

[long saddle]

it's the the go to melee/gunker keystone

[zealous wing]

even still, like... yeah

[fierce dew]

I feel like my revolver is underpowered though

That’s prolly the problem

[long saddle]

is it maxed out?

[fierce dew]

Well the mastery is

[zealous wing]

what stats

[fierce dew]

290 purple :( I ran out of plaster

Plasteel

[zealous wing]

oh dear

yeah thats why

[long saddle]

yeah it'll get there

[zealous wing]

youre working with under half power

[fierce dew]

I focused on my sword to get it to orange (it also is not maxed)

But I did max its blessings out

[long saddle]

it should be your reaper go to then

[fierce dew]

Bounces, heavy attacks do like nothing

….its also 300ish

[zealous wing]

what stats

[fierce dew]

Shit lemme grab it

[patent jacinth]

Are you sure it's a reaper you're attacking

[zealous wing]

you cant send pics yet , gotta talk a bit more

[fierce dew]

Ye I’m getting its stats

[patent jacinth]

Nothing bounces off a reaper

[fierce dew]

Big armored ogryn with a hammer right

[zealous wing]

crusher

[patent jacinth]

That's a crusher

[zealous wing]

FGS is DEFINITELY your goto them

[fierce dew]

….i got them mixed up reapers the gun ones right

[zealous wing]

yes

[patent jacinth]

Yes

[fierce dew]

Right crushers are a pain in the ass

[patent jacinth]

And FGS can still 2-3 shot them

[fierce dew]

It’s hard to do that when theirs 5 of them on you

[patent jacinth]

You get better at it

[long saddle]

yeah dodging at last second and using force pushes

[patent jacinth]

You don't even need to push that much

[fierce dew]

Christ

[patent jacinth]

I don't really push attack ever with fgs

[long saddle]

yeah I dodge more often

[fierce dew]

….is it bad I focus more on crowd control then anything else

[zealous wing]

this was me being pretty cautious

[patent jacinth]

I just dodge dance and spam heavies

[zealous wing]

it depends. is someone else on crowd duty?

[fierce dew]

Not really, my build is just focused on mass killing

[zealous wing]

if the other teammates are all smacking poxxers, youre on big boi duty

[fierce dew]

Right got my sword and uh…wow that’s bad

ahem

[long saddle]

yeah early on you tend to be more crowd duty with FGS, but then you learn that it just deletes things with heavies

[patent jacinth]

It also has the special

So you just kill a few elites and then delete an infinite amount of trash

[fierce dew]

280 rating
147 Light
292 Heavy
61/80% damage
33/67% finesse
40/73% Cleave
56/80% defences
58/80% warp resistances

+10% melee damage (groaners, poxwalkers)
+15% sprint efficiency

Tier 4 Warpslice
Tier 4 Blazing Spirit

….i need more plasteel

[patent jacinth]

Everything here needs replacing

[long saddle]

well blessings you can change up if you're able to

[zealous wing]

this is roughly what you want to hunt for

[patent jacinth]

Deflector is lame

[zealous wing]

deflector can be swapped for... wrath?

[patent jacinth]

Run shred riposye

[fierce dew]

But Soulblaze is good tho :(

[patent jacinth]

Crit max

[long saddle]

it's not consistent enough to be worth

[zealous wing]

i use deflector because, im a frontliner. i need all the block i can get

[patent jacinth]

Blazing spirit isn't (on melee's)

[zealous wing]

soulblaze on melee is an outright scam, sorry :/

[patent jacinth]

Deflector is for shootouts

Just stack more crit chance

[zealous wing]

deflector is for, feel scary

walk towards the stalker menacingly

:)

[fierce dew]

What about Momentum 4?

Given my build I think that’s amazing right

[patent jacinth]

What's that do again

[zealous wing]

unstable power is your main thing you want

[fierce dew]

Hitting at least 3 enemies restores 15% toughness

Per hit

[patent jacinth]

Oh don't take that

[zealous wing]

5% strength, but the part they dont tell you is it stacks 4 times... 20% strength is a ton

[patent jacinth]

It sounds good

[long saddle]

psyker doesn't really need toughness blessings on weapons

[patent jacinth]

Until you remember that your tree can just print toughness

[fierce dew]

Fair

[patent jacinth]

Especially on newest psyker

[fierce dew]

So unstable power 4 right

[zealous wing]

yes

[long saddle]

yeah it you feel you're lacking in toughness then you need to look at the top of your tree

[fierce dew]

Warp Slice is good tho right

[zealous wing]

ehhhhh

[patent jacinth]

I run shred riposte for crit maxing

[zealous wing]

what region are you

[long saddle]

you build warp charges by just killing

[fierce dew]

Wym

[zealous wing]

north america east, EU, asia, etc?

[fierce dew]

NZ

Ok just upgraded my sword from 290 rating to 320

[rain wren]

Yes sacrifice souls to the warp

[long saddle]

and don't bother really unless you get two charges

first one is really only good for staggers in a pinch

[zealous wing]

OH

VERY important info incoming

[long saddle]

and it's a bit slow to boot

[fierce dew]

?

[zealous wing]

the slash is really strong and useful in some specific cases... especially one. if someone is on a floor above, or behind a wall, and they get dogged, throw a slash that way. it penetrates walls, and will knock the dog off

[fierce dew]

Oh neat

didnt know that

[zealous wing]

its saved a decent few people in runs because they didnt jump down with us

still no cure for trappers, but, theres that

[rain wren]

Yes because it counts as a melee strike and melee can go through objects

[fierce dew]

'ate trappers

'ate crushers

[zealous wing]

if you run Kinetic Flayer, it works with that also

[fierce dew]

don' mind bulwarks

[zealous wing]

bulwarks are easy

push attack on force swords / FGS , opens them up

[patent jacinth]

I just run rending trauma on my melee build with FGS

Because it has no weaknesses

[rain wren]

One cheap move you can do is close doors on enemies and bash them through it

[long saddle]

I don't like having both slow moving staff and FGS

[patent jacinth]

I live with it

[rain wren]

I love fgs

[patent jacinth]

Laspistol would be nice

But bulwark racism is better

[rain wren]

Lol

[zealous wing]

why not a vraks

pop them open, shoot them in the face with like 5 bullets

[long saddle]

I mostly use reg FS for backup weapon

when I'm staffing, or knife when I want to mobilitymaxx

[zealous wing]

i made my vraks an ammo dump stat

its only 22 bullets less total, that i can hold

i have to TRY to run out of ammo with that thing

[patent jacinth]

Because I want to dump all 5 of them on the floor, not pop one and have it immediately replaced by 2 others

[long saddle]

not a bad idea

[rain wren]

For me only time I need my melee on psyker is for hordes and to push things. I just chop heads off like daisies

[patent jacinth]

And fgs already does really good unyielding damage

[long saddle]

what staff/gun are you running that doesn't deal with hordes

[patent jacinth]

Laspistol

[rain wren]

You prefer staff when they are in your face?

[long saddle]

depends on the staff

trauma or purg, sure

[patent jacinth]

Everything except ek will keep stuff off

[long saddle]

strike a bit trickier but it can do it

[rain wren]

I prefer fgs so I build toughness back up and not have to worry too mich

[hallow finch]

Man

[long saddle]

yeah but what weapon are you running that doesn't give you toughness

[hallow finch]

If shredder only had tighter spread

[long saddle]

a gun?

[patent jacinth]

Real meleeker is tac axe

[zealous wing]

taxe is fun

[rain wren]

No I use the shock staff

[long saddle]

ok then it's fair

[rain wren]

I prefer damage over toughness regen on staff

[hallow finch]

Bite me

[long saddle]

staff regens toughness by dmg tho

[hallow finch]

Immortal as long as you have shit to hit on your ability

[patent jacinth]

You should take perfectionist

You don't need warp unbound anyway

[hallow finch]

Which one's that

[patent jacinth]

25 stacks of DD

[hallow finch]

Instead of 30?

[patent jacinth]

(And the 3 stacks on headshot one)

[fierce dew]

hey which is better, brain blast or random bullshit go

[patent jacinth]

Assail

[rain wren]

Assail

[long saddle]

I once tried going without it, I overloaded like 4 times in a mission

I'm too used to it lol

[zealous wing]

blue magic missile bees

[patent jacinth]

I took it off and blew out once

Then never again

[long saddle]

ye it's not worth the hassle

[proper spoke]

Assail. Live that moon knight life

[patent jacinth]

Its only purpose for a melee build is assail spam

[long saddle]

I manage peril differently when I run the other abilities

[patent jacinth]

Otherwise it just doesn't do much

[rain wren]

Assail only has issues on caraspace but still fucks them up

[patent jacinth]

And I can spend that point elsewhere

[long saddle]

I SG on a lot more builds, so that's why

[patent jacinth]

I already lose 6 points to everything below auras and above actives

[fierce dew]

hey for venting Shriek, Warp Rupture or Creeping Flames?

[long saddle]

creeping flames

[patent jacinth]

Creeping flames

Always

[long saddle]

warp rupture got better, but soulblaze is just too good

[fierce dew]

im honestly just taking Venting Shriek as I've found the non-upgrade one to be a good panic button

[long saddle]

old warp rupture was a wet fart

[dusk wren]

scrier

[rain wren]

Should go scrier

[proper spoke]

The only situation where brain burst might be better is if there is a aniper miles away and you have no-one with snipe weapons in your team. Then you can target them quickly and duck back into cover.

All other situations are better with assail

[hallow finch]

So I gotta quell more I presume

[long saddle]

it's better to learn to manage your peril

[patent jacinth]

Not really

[long saddle]

shriek's main thing is creeping flames

[patent jacinth]

Only if you need to throw assail

[zealous wing]

im thinking i get the 2nd mask, opinions?

[long saddle]

I don't like either...

[patent jacinth]

Otherwise you just coast at max peril and kill everything

[fierce dew]

both look dumb

[dusk wren]

they both look silly

[hallow finch]

I really like how I don't have to think about it tho

[zealous wing]

i know, its great

[long saddle]

first one if I have to pick

[fierce dew]

you look like a child using a glass on their mouth to look like a penguin

[dusk wren]

you should play scrier smite

[patent jacinth]

You should explode

[dusk wren]

ehrm, scrier stops that

[zealous wing]

i can only look at silly for too long before i give in

[hallow finch]

I wanna ask
Should I run by crack a bone? It's easier to stack ability this way but it also quells peril very fast

[long saddle]

this chat is a smyker intervention zone

[patent jacinth]

Yes

[rain wren]

Yes scrier keeps you at 100% peril for max damage with smite

[patent jacinth]

Bcob is just goofy

[dusk wren]

well the point isn't damage

[patent jacinth]

And you need it to offset deep scriers

[zealous wing]

the point is not learning the game, we know

[patent jacinth]

All of the damage it does is mental

[dusk wren]

in optimal situation, you can actually smite for like

[patent jacinth]

To you and teammates

[dusk wren]

well, forever

[long saddle]

I don't want that to be optimal tho

[plucky flax]

Maybe today I can win.

[patent jacinth]

Scriers smite is the most boring shit imaginable

[zealous wing]

AGENT

[dusk wren]

in non optimal situations it's like a 15 seconds smite

[plucky flax]

Yessir.

[long saddle]

14 seconds too long

[zealous wing]

agent give me your goofiness factor opinion

[dusk wren]

50 seconds too short

i WILL keep smiting the lone infected

[plucky flax]

Damn that's lit.

I like it both but prefer the mask 1 more.

More leather = more gimpy.

[zealous wing]

i COULD also just wait a week to see what pops up

[long saddle]

you should've picked up scripture face

peak silly

[zealous wing]

this is for my probably not used much shroudfield, so, im not super serious with it, if i do get it, but if i do i wanna look a lil goofy

[zealous wing]

i thought about it but

meh

paper nailed to skull isnt my vibe

[long saddle]

there's better gimp masks for zealot as well

[zealous wing]

i am looking at this too

and the variants

[long saddle]

I have the white one without the rebreather

I don't know why they made the zealot variants all camo and shit, they don't fit with anything that zealot has really

[zealous wing]

they really dont

[long saddle]

that's more vet or ogryn

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie is this the same ps5 guy yesterday?

He's on chastise evis build but not sure if he's good enough to play non-book.

[zealous wing]

i have this mask rn, but its on my marty

[long saddle]

I only go full pirate with that

[zealous wing]

i hate the hats

[long saddle]

all hats or just pirate

[zealous wing]

dont like these either

[long saddle]

yeah I'm not too much for face cowls

[zealous wing]

these hats

zealot really has so little drip

[long saddle]

don't have more of my zealot ones with pictures atm

[zealous wing]

im sorry but

where the FUCK is his neck 😭

[long saddle]

vet is the one I have the least drip for, I'm usually not in to the whole military thing

[zealous wing]

noneckzealot

[long saddle]

the chest does that ye

it looks silly without helmet usually

[zealous wing]

everything clips with it

a lot of things on zealot clip

cant wear big book with much

[long saddle]

I find psyker to clip more usually

especially with back stuff

but I live with it usually

[rigid sky]

Psykers don't clip

We're just non-euclidean

[summer prairie]

I don't recognize the names, probably not

[fierce dew]

ok

i see why assail now

also whoever decided to make the 10 million rager wave in Mortis Trials, I hope you stub your toe

[long saddle]

mortis trials is all just a big "what if"

[fierce dew]

I like the lore :3

[long saddle]

wait until you play it on auric and get 4 monsters at once

[fierce dew]

Dude that happens on Malice lmao

[proper spoke]

I only play mortis trials in the hope to get the brain burst combo perk

[long saddle]

I thought it was just two on lower difficulties

[fierce dew]

I play mortis trials as my plasteel grind

[long saddle]

idr, was a long time since I played damnation when that was the highest

havoc is great for resources

[fierce dew]

I’ve fought a chaos spawn, 2 plague ogryn, and a Beast of Nurgle back to back usually at the same time

[long saddle]

yeah that's p standard

[fierce dew]

The rager gunner combo tho is devious

Mainly the ragers.

So.

So many ragers.

[proper spoke]

Bubble shield + brain burst

[long saddle]

dreg ones are worse than scab at least

[deft stump]

But but, NOT Commissar.

[deft stump]

Uprising maybe.

[deft stump]

More like, whoever though triple disablers was a good idea.

[plucky flax]

Strongest inferno shriek vs weakest bubble knight. (I only exploded twice)

No blaze away is a choice I guess.

[storm dock]

if all you do is m1 fire shots then its useless

[plucky flax]

Blaze away stacks with left click too

[deft stump]

Just gotta spam it.

[storm dock]

either way, immolation grenades worth of warpfire dmg on shriek inferno

[rich spindle]

Either way,

[deft stump]

Unsanctioned blowing up?

[plucky flax]

Too much assails spam.

[long saddle]

commissar ones I like, those that have a specific battalion look as well like steel legion

but not in to the bulky camo stuff and the likes

[deft stump]

I like those as well, I just joke about not commissar cos you know.

[deft stump]

Still.

[long saddle]

yeah assail is risky on bubble knight, I'm not too used to it quite yet

[deft stump]

Still funny commissar with a knoife and a taste for booms.

[zealous wing]

karien

i am learning how the shroudfield penance is a pain

2 missions, ive gotten... 4

[pallid stump]

im going to try smite

hopefully i do not just hold it down

[deft stump]

Play mortis, get triple invis stab.

Pray for crits.

Backstab with knoife or DS4, problem solved.

[zealous wing]

DS4 you say

[deft stump]

Even bosses explode in 2-3 shrouds.

[zealous wing]

im using my thammer atm, because, it works, and i dont need the ability to deal good damage on things

incase things go poorly

im used to chorus/FOTF, and thammer

[deft stump]

Is more, backstab damage bonus.

[zealous wing]

DS hordeclear is also pretty ass

[deft stump]

Plus, DS4 heavy is faster. Just invis, h1 boom.

Been doing it with throwing knoifes.

[zealous wing]

ooh they count?

[deft stump]

No. 2 penances to do.

[obtuse walrus]

I wish psyker had a funny hat that doesn't cover their face

[zealous wing]

dang

[obtuse walrus]

I need a funny little hat to wear but also display my beard

[zealous wing]

i know just the one

[deft stump]

Invis stab and throwing knoife. Though I think in mortis, throwing knoifes do apply shroud damage things. Karks explode if I need to emergency throw while shrouded.

[obtuse walrus]

Abysmal dogshit

[zealous wing]

[obtuse walrus]

Besides that's not a silly little hat

[zealous wing]

they really are so fucking stupid

[obtuse walrus]

That's a helmet

[zealous wing]

who the fuck greenlighted this

i prefer the mosquito masks for zealot over this

infact i got one, and not one of these

[obtuse walrus]

I'm talking like the rogue trader hats without the cloth on your face

I need that shit

[zealous wing]

same, honestly, though, at the same time i'd never use it

would be nice to see as an option tho

[deft stump]

No mask would make the hat more valuable to me tbh.

[pallid stump]

aight so we lost

HOWEVER

i did like smite

[deft stump]

Oh no...

[pallid stump]

electrocuting a bunch of enemies and then swapping to kill them after they are debuffed is cool

[zealous wing]

it WOULD make it match 100% of outfits

[pallid stump]

just gotta remember

hold a bit, "UNLIMITED POWAH", chop their heads off

[deft stump]

I would totally use it with the inquisitor one.

[pallid stump]

wait

[zealous wing]

im just glad i held out on buying the red one when it was up a while ago

[pallid stump]

does this mean i became a "smyker"?

[zealous wing]

.... not quite

[pallid stump]

oh cool

[zealous wing]

smyker is referring to permasmykers who dont have self control or skill

[pallid stump]

oh

nah nah

[deft stump]

Ah. That one set made me play psyker more lmao.

[zealous wing]

drip does do that

[pallid stump]

the most i've held it is when im in a really thight spot and i need the team to kill them when i cannot

[zealous wing]

i got the servitor helm for oggy, and boom, more oggy gameplay. zealot drip? more zealot

vetr, has nothing, and will probably get nothing

[deft stump]

Smykers know not of staff or stabby/pokey thing. Only Smite.

[zealous wing]

the current torso tho is pretty sick

[pallid stump]

ohhh then i am not a smyker....i hope

[obtuse dome]

I liked that one the gloves are sick

[pallid stump]

i will however switch shield for shriek

with how much i use smite and a staff

it gets hard to manage peril

still not too good at that

[marble crater]

Sorry, if you use smite and shield you are closer to smyker than not

[obtuse walrus]

I wish there were hostile psykers we could fight

[pallid stump]

oh and force swords

[deft stump]

You missed the inquisitior ones.

[zealous wing]

yes and no

i saw them

[pallid stump]

wasn't there commisar outifts for vet?

[zealous wing]

i wanted them

but i was in the "ewww mtx" phase

then they were gone 😭

[pallid stump]

if there were vet commisar outfits

[zealous wing]

i think that was the inquisitor set

[pallid stump]

id play vet with the new falchion so much

maybe

idk

[deft stump]

But it's bad compared to the Inquisitor one.

[pallid stump]

ohhh oke

[marble crater]

How much people can change in 1 week

[zealous wing]

inquisitor is the one that every psyker has

?

the tripple coat torso?

[deft stump]

Funni coat on a coat on a coat?

[wraith sphinx]

3000 acquilas is 3000 acquilas

[deft stump]

Yes.

[zealous wing]

yeah i was there

[obtuse dome]

Inquisitor sets are peak

Especially the hats

[deft stump]

I only skipped the oggy one.

[pallid stump]

ah yeah there's a comissar one

kinda bad but

[zealous wing]

i like my semi-bland oggy

servitor helmet, pegleg pants, havoc torso

[deft stump]

Just get inquisitor+commissar hat.

[wraith sphinx]

I hope the black protectus blouse gets readded to rotation soon

[pallid stump]

only character i have cosmetics on is arbiter and its because i grabned the trench coat since i wanted to do a "john wick" build

[deft stump]

Still waiting for the red one.

[obtuse walrus]

I got the Tripple coat, vostoyan firstborn boots and chain mail helmet with books on my back running with the force great sword

[wraith sphinx]

he is red for an amazing reason

[obtuse walrus]

Vann Schmeckendorf

[zealous wing]

oh yeah i went with the greyscale mottle mask

[pallid stump]

is it a shit joke to name an arbitrator "john wick"? yes
did i do it for the memes? also yes

i even run the no dog perk

for obvious reasons

[obtuse walrus]

Mine also has the trench coat and is called Harrier Du Bois

[pallid stump]

its just that this screaming john wick much more than any other cosmetics

(i have the deluxe dlc for the class

[zealous wing]

i have too much psyker drip

[pallid stump]

i have no psyker drip

[zealous wing]

veteran is the only class that has none for me

[pallid stump]

i have vet drip but its free

[zealous wing]

but for psyker, i own everything from commissary, and several commodores

[pallid stump]

oh and ogryn too

[zealous wing]

vet has the most expensive commissary set, best he's getting, damn whining cadian

[pallid stump]

i should get that rebreather mask ngl

this one

[zealous wing]

switched him from professional to cutthroat purely for VoC because m cutthroat has the best warcries

[pallid stump]

i wanna make a bully ogryn ngl

[deft stump]

Loose Cannon NOT Commissar better.

[zealous wing]

loose cannon fem does have a couple good ones

"put the karking boot in" being her peak

but m cutthroat's actually sound like warcries

fem cutthroats though, fuckin WEAK 😭

[wraith sphinx]

she is red because she's going to kill you

[zealous wing]

THERE IS ONLY WAR - m

vs

there is only war -f

she just sounds so deadpan

though him being freaked out by fem seer wanting to give him a hug is a fucking delight

[deft stump]

For me, it boring generic edgy emo guys to boring sticklers to gremlin mode all the time.

[zealous wing]

true, and that makes him being offered a hug all the funnier

"you stay away from me, witch" in a panicked tone

everyone gives them so much shit, its the best

[deft stump]

More so when the psykers types aren't really 'dangerous'.

Personality wise.

[hearty wolf]

Good mornings

[plucky flax]

[weary crane]

red

[plucky flax]

Don't you find crusher is really low damage tho?

[weary crane]

Uhh

Not with all the buffs

I get easy skull crusher stacks and slaughterer is good for hordes

The only problem with crusher is it's horrendous movement

I've maxed out defences since I barely use special attack

[plucky flax]

It's just really slow ttk on elites for me.

Slaughterer horde clear is fine though but even shield has decent horde clear on arby.

[weary crane]

The crusher has an amazing push attack

Combine that with the cleave from push talent and it's great

[summer prairie]

when 4 psyker havoc

[weary crane]

Never

[proper spoke]

I dunno about havoc, but 4 psyker matches sound fun

[plucky flax]

4 psyker havoc but inferno not allowed.

[summer prairie]

maybe only rending trauma too

[long saddle]

FGS gaming only

[summer prairie]

melee only with the current special pacing sounds questionable, maybe with enough bubbles

[proper spoke]

I actually want to try this out. But maybe on heresy or something, because I’m mediocre (for now)

Is that the 4th difficulty? I always mix up names

[solid pond]

now its damnation lol

previously heresy yeah

[proper spoke]

Even better, all psykers had the loner voice

[summer prairie]

with bomber resistance,dr nodes and 3 bubbles you can just chill in fire https://streamable.com/lej0iw

or maybe that was 4, but 3 is good enough

[proper spoke]

The toughness regen stacks with multiple bubbles?

[summer prairie]

yes

[proper spoke]

Wow. I learned something very cool today

[plucky flax]

That's why in havoc season 1 it was 2 psykers 2 zealot just book and bubble train. Xd

[proper spoke]

I wonder if it’s possible to have constant chorus of spiritual fortitude with 3 zealots…

Or 4

Im not sure how long chorus actually lasts

[deft stump]

Old psykinetic with book memes.

[weary crane]

Holy shit fatshark EU serves are so laggy rn

Half my hits dont reg

Enemies were just floating across the map

[plucky flax]

Any for 4 psykers meme? Maybe burga is allowed at first to see if how easy we can clear it.

Seems easy enough.

@summer prairie no one is online so guess we can do double psyker no burga/trauma.

[summer prairie]

After dinner

[plucky flax]

I'm sure pugs would love it.

[solid pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1427003383847321832/zt.gif

[plucky flax]

Okay I play dogless arby for the meme and wait for teammates to do damage.

[summer prairie]

what, dogless arby does big damage

[plucky flax]

Not as much as dog.

EO is so op

[summer prairie]

about the same

farm some horde with grenades

[plucky flax]

No I have to use shockmine to stun 10000 crushers and watch team do nothing to them.

No cdr with forceful keystone.

[summer prairie]

bonking stunned crushers with fgs is satisfying, I admit

[plucky flax]

They should bake like 50% cdr into this whilst it's active or something.

EO have 50% cdr for EIGHT seconds that's so op

[weary crane]

trynna pick a thumbnail

[solid pond]

makeshift flagbearer

that'd be a cool havoc modifier im sure all VT2 players would love

[summer prairie]

EO cdr is still worse than psykinetic

[plucky flax]

Nothing beat psyker cdr.

[royal totem]

It was weird. I had somebody named Unscantioned Psyker in one of my games yesterday.

[plucky flax]

That's the real unsanctioned I bet.

[royal totem]

It was a low 20s havoc though so weird

[summer prairie]

Ok, can play now

vet

[plucky flax]

It's op.

I actually didn't check build I only wanted a vet so I can have some free ammo.

Horde clear with shredder nade and arby nade

This is free win

[weary crane]

@plucky flax this is my arby build using crusher
https://youtu.be/iYpRWoJRtvY

crusher sometimes 1 shots gunners, but normally requires a heavy plus light

Also can someone explain how the fuck this Rager survived

https://youtube.com/shorts/9U0nDp-myyE

It had max stacks of skullcrusher

Bleed stacks

Soulblaze stacks

[radiant frigate]

built different

[weary crane]

Took a lot of ds and crushers heavy headshots

[radiant frigate]

he felt the blessings

[queen fog]

Rager got extra blessings from grandfather nurgle trust

[weary crane]

Oh it also took a brainburst

Wtf

Oh and it was highlighted by focus target so that's more damage

[radiant frigate]

rager with health curios and damage resistance

[weary crane]

It must've had over +100% damage taken from sources

[royal totem]

Blue stim 80% dr?

If its in gas thats 100% o think?

[weary crane]

Seems like it

It literally took no damage until the gas went

[royal totem]

Yeah. Iirc skullcrusher rending etc doesnt interact with blue stims. So 80% still 80% then gas so 100% still 100%

Pretty ass

[weary crane]

Like what's even the counter to that

What should've I done in that situtation

[rich spindle]

Run away until gas wears off

[weary crane]

And leave my teammates pinned in the corner?

Also the tox bombers just keep spamming and hide behind horde

[rich spindle]

Yeah

Sometimes it’s just a wipe

All of the best players I know get downed by blue ragers at bad times

[royal totem]

There really isnt one. Either get it out of gas or wait for no gass if possible

I think just dead though

[plucky flax]

Kind of hard.

[summer prairie]

19 dd average again

[plucky flax]

Hmm I was at 12.96 average with max stack being 33%.

I'll try 25 stacks and see.

[summer prairie]

easier with infinite ammo but it's easy to farm stacks quick from a bunch of melee lessers or weaker elites

[plucky flax]

I'll try to tag the blue guys with assails.

I think that should give 1 stack?

Even without killing blow?

[summer prairie]

sure

well no

refreshes

[plucky flax]

I see brb pee. You can choose player if you want.

We lost too much damage when you died.

It was only me.

[summer prairie]

was some max range mauler overhead through a mass of other enemies

this psyker might be decent

[plucky flax]

Fgs gaze I like that.

[summer prairie]

he's gone

[plucky flax]

RIP

[summer prairie]

trauma fgs gaze warp charges with nodeless smite

[plucky flax]

Maybe unlimited power.

But would have enfeeble then.

[summer prairie]

most of those go EP

[plucky flax]

I'm sure this guy is pro with shriek dd obscurus.

[summer prairie]

surely

[plucky flax]

At least we have more horde clear now

[summer prairie]

running so far

whenever there's armor it's all the way back

[plucky flax]

We have no cc at all.

This vet is using his shout all the way back.

So no enemies getting knocked.

I am getting no stacks with perfectionsm.

[summer prairie]

that shriek build seems good, except he should have fgs

yeah too much competition i guess

[plucky flax]

It's only good cos we have no cleave.

'good'

Discount funny burga I guess.

[summer prairie]

but it's also because the stacks are gone when we run

[plucky flax]

He use sword special for superiority stacks

[summer prairie]

whenever we run the maulers just walk past me

[plucky flax]

Oh its u stable

[royal totem]

people keep leaving havocs when they die ._. and i keep deranking.

[summer prairie]

quite tilting

[plucky flax]

Sry was me.

[summer prairie]

the psyker was always running ahead, not clearing anything and ignoring back spawns

[plucky flax]

I ressed the wrong dude like a noob.

[summer prairie]

and the zealot was always behind and never using the book for resses

[royal totem]

damn. knew it was you !

but how am i supposed to calmly read bedtime stories to people if i'm in the front?

[plucky flax]

Hmm we were fighting stuff at the front. Horde horn sounds and like 5s after a whole damn blob appear behind with no footsteps at all.

Game is too hard.

[weary crane]

Yup, I always check behind and have to point out to my teammates

But sometimes they spawn literally 5 metres away silently

[plucky flax]

Of course the zealot then ran ahead and died so needlessly.