psyker-class

[icy breach]

Smite ofc with venting shriek, boltpistol & force sword

[wraith sphinx]

THE ANCIENT VENERATED BLITZ SITS ATOP THE GOLDEN THRONE, FUELED BY A THOUSAND RAGEBAIT POSTS EVERY DAY TO KEEP IT RELEVANT

[white valley]

They did so much that somehow a smyker has equal boss damage to the other players

[icy breach]

Cause boss was ledged and counted me as the killer; don’t mentioned it

[white valley]

Ah

Lmao

[wooden relic]

The pushing power of venting shriek is as strong as vet’s shout?

[weary sable]

No.

[white valley]

For ten thousand years, Smite has dominated the Galaxy

[hasty smelt]

I would, but I had like 4 calculators on this. Scrier's Gaze never stops, I never explode. I've seen many use venting shriek, but my mind has made up several strawman arguments that I've disagreed with pre-emptively to reinforce that I'm right.

[icy breach]

It was on gloriana & it was a chaos spawn

[wooden relic]

Btw, was that you? I saw evelyn in papa willy scoreboad

[weary sable]

@wooden relic It was simply that i used Chorus and didn't damage the boss, while Smite did damage it. So it counted the last instance of damage as the kill and thus scoreboard attributed the whole damage to the Psyker instead of.. well me perhaps. But it did not really matter anyway.

[wooden relic]

Haha so it was you

[weary sable]

Yes, that was me.

It was a Daemonhost too, in a very unfavourable position for us, so we had to remove it.

[cold ivy]

for shriek smite, are you running EP for more smite damage or warp siphon for more venting shriek?

i've very rarely seen shriek smite so idk how it's built, i see a lot of scrier's smite these days tho - in the past i know people used shriek smite with shriek soulblaze being most of the damage, but maybe times have changed

[wooden relic]

Good decision. Silo clusters also have a dh that can make progression tough.

[weary sable]

It was on Gloriana.

Best map outside of Throneside.

[quartz barn]

My setup has ep, but havent used it in a long while because smite is ass

[icy breach]

You will have problems when you get cornered and there will be that one or two bozos who will not be affected by smite
OR
When ranged units will pepper you from a safe distance where your smite can’t reach
OR
You end up in a position where you have to cover 2 entry points and you can’t cause smite has a limit on links & where you’re facing
All these are covered by venting shriek

[wraith sphinx]

I love throneside

Darktide's prettiest maps fr

Not that it has a lot of competition

[icy breach]

EP everytime

[quartz barn]

Just learn how to 360 smite so 2 or more entry points become trivial

[wooden relic]

Mind sharing your build?

[icy breach]

That was before i think; there was a chaos spawn no?

[winged trail]

GLORIANA MY GOAT!!!!!!
a barrel explodes and i am dead one minute in

[weary sable]

@icy breach Perhaps. It was in the opening parts tho.

[icy breach]

Aka NEVER be in a position where you have to 180 to cover 2 spots; funnel your adversaries

[quartz barn]

Well yes thats always better

I was just memeing lmao

But it is possible at the cost of damage

[wraith sphinx]

This has always been the #1 bad thing about smite

[obtuse walrus]

kill everything in melee

[wraith sphinx]

People blindly holding down rmb not paying attention to what is behind them

[hasty smelt]

Doesn't get affected by smite.
If this happens it's joever.
Smite can't reach.
I didn't see a time limit on the maps, so I'll hide behind some boxes or something smh.
Can't cover 2 entry points.
Look back and forth really fast, alternatively they'll all be on fire in three seconds. Alternatively, the best build is Friend....build.

[cobalt python]

You lot all being insane still I hope

[quartz barn]

You have to time your spins with the time it takes to stagger enemies and the ones behind you to unstagger

[quartz barn]

No im not gonna carry you

[wooden relic]

Oh yes, since we are on this topic, if I, as psyker #1, put some soulblaze stacks on enemies, does another psyker on my team stack his soulblaze on top of me or independently?

[cobalt python]

Why would I want someone to kill things I could be hitting with a hammer

[zealous wing]

i completely forgot to ask yesterday...

did they change shriek working through walls? it wouldnt let me light things on fire consistently :/

[zealous wing]

on top of, and theyre your stacks now

[wooden relic]

Thanks!

[icy breach]

Enjoy!

[quartz barn]

The fire and damage part of shriek has limited range, but the stagger doesnt (or has more range)

[wooden relic]

Wonderful

[zealous wing]

yeah but i was looking directly at a horde but then got blocked by some stairs, shrieked, and.... nothing

[quartz barn]

No clue then

[zealous wing]

it was the smelter map main entrance

[quartz barn]

Im guessing enemies were coming down from to upper layer?

Couldve been above the hitbox

[zealous wing]

so, theres the two doorways at the top of the stairs. i was inside, they were outside, i was almost at the top of the stairs, but psyker3 is shortest height possible, i shriek, no fire. if it happens again ill clip it

[quartz barn]

Oh wait the one in the back with the potential dh and script/grim spawn

[zealous wing]

uhhhh

[quartz barn]

Ye they were probably above the hitbox

[pallid stump]

alright so

[quartz barn]

I was thinking of the single staircase right before the tear in the upper floor

[pallid stump]

i tried scrier's gaze

it was so cool

[quartz barn]

Same scenario however

[hasty smelt]

@zealous wing You're not going to like this, but I spent quite some time and I think I figured out something. I know you told me not to touch Smite, but I ended up using it anyways and now I'm kind of just vibing with it on Auric. Please don't shank me with a Psykana knife.

[zealous wing]

[hasty smelt]

Trust not in me, but the Emperor, I drank deep from the pond of cope and seethe.

[zealous wing]

heres the real deciding factor... are you spamming, or being considerate

[icy breach]

How could you?!
Don’t like smite? Cope

[hasty smelt]

I'm not spamming ||I only press it once and hold it like that for 4 minutes at a time.||

[quartz barn]

smites boss

[zealous wing]

cant belive this

rip zyro

[hasty smelt]

NOT SPAMMING THO

[icy breach]

Ey; its done by proxy - enfeeble is a thing & you stop everything else so your team is not harrased while focusing the boss

[zealous wing]

ill have words for you when im online

:<

[icy breach]

Also don’t forget; smite applies electrified status so high voltage blessing on weapons does more dmg

[hasty smelt]

_Ya'll hate me because I speak the truth. _

[zealous wing]

dw ive had a migraine for 4 days i dont have the energy for hate

[hasty smelt]

I beseech you, please observe my sick skills.

[icy breach]

If its hit by the shockwave its lit on fire; distance has nothing to do with the ammount of fire stacks you apply

[deft stump]

Just be arby with concussive, stagger and shock bosses by light spam to head.

[iron flame]

Man ... i should had a scryer gaze build if i got qped into a pre mission screen where there is already a bubble psyker

[rain wren]

Double bubble

[zealous wing]

i never take bubble into QP anymore

never know what youre gonna spawn into

[deft stump]

Or just queue with it. Unless it's Burgle spam event 2.0.

[hasty smelt]

I must carry the Scrier's Smite cross on my back, like a plant I soak in the distain from my peers.

[iron flame]

I thought bubble psyker is more reliable ?

[zealous wing]

i'd rather deal boss damage, but thats a me thing

i havent played bubble in so long

[iron flame]

hmm i am playing gunpsyker these days so dunno it feels like i should just pick bubble to be more of a team player instead of being a super selfish psyker

[zealous wing]

welcome to bubbleknight

[iron flame]

yea that is my style basically. I do like scryer's gaze but well it feels like QP is a toss up on us dying to heavy ranged teams or bubble useless because my team is too good at killing ranged units

[zealous wing]

just get EE; be the only one to survive

[quartz barn]

Everyone is either playing gunker or bubble knight variant #34 these days however

[zealous wing]

ive been doing EK honestly

also learning illisi

psyker 4 will be me learning obscurus i think

[white valley]

Illisi more like mid

[zealous wing]

ye but i got the skin for it so i might as well get good

[white valley]

Such a shame

No reason to use illisi when FGS exists

[iron flame]

EE ?

[zealous wing]

FGS has shitty skins 😭

[iron flame]

ahh

[zealous wing]

Empathic Evasion

[iron flame]

i skipped that

[zealous wing]

....

F

[iron flame]

using deflector

so i thought i skip that and take the extra monster/ogryn talent

[zealous wing]

crit means no hit for like 1s

[wraith sphinx]

nothing wrong with skipping EE if you're also skipping prescience and everything else crit chance related

[white valley]

Adipose Charcharias, give us a big weapon balance patch and my life is yours

[zealous wing]

youre not online

[iron flame]

For me my biggest problem with staff is that there is no firebolt version of the staff from VT2

😭 Plz Obesefish, gimme a sniper staff

[zealous wing]

tbh all the staves except purg are snipers

[white valley]

Trauma isn't

[iron flame]

is LMB that good ?

[zealous wing]

if you have KF

but even so it supresses

[iron flame]

Knowing me, i probably blow it on some random melee elite or special already with my sword

[zealous wing]

then you use BB

[iron flame]

Yea ... i had been using BB on those bloody snipers

but well i just thought more staff = better

like what if i want to play smite ?

[celest valve]

i am uncertain if it is actually the same status

[hasty smelt]

I can be, give me a moment.

[wraith sphinx]

you cannot utter that word here

it will set the chat ablaze again

[hasty smelt]

🔥

[iron flame]

😭 I know i know ....

i really want to play unlimited power build

but it feels like i will just get kicked

[wraith sphinx]

but let me ask you have you ever messed around with bb gunker?

It's my favourite build post patch

[zealous wing]

off a cliff, with a barrel

[iron flame]

Yea that is what i am doing right now, BB with recon

[wraith sphinx]

king shit

[weary sable]

@iron flame We could give you that space if you would like to.

[icy breach]

Visual effect is the same thats for sure; i think it is electricution status
Same for stunstorm grenades (no joke; its both stun (stagger) & electricution)

Yes @iron flame we can put you in the team

[iron flame]

Ohh

Well problem is that because smite psykers are so badly viewed so i hardly had practice with them lol

[weary sable]

That might be true.

Contrary to popular belief, using Smite does take skill.

Not the ability itself, but maintaining it and staying alive from everything that isn't smitten.

Which, depending on modifiers and circumstances, can be quite a lot of stuff.

You don't pay attention and one can scrape you from the floor.

[solid pond]

no

[weary idol]

yeah but god could you imagine if you had to survive against all the enemies that weren't smitten because you weren't using smite?

Smite is braindead beyond belief

It isn't suddenly hard just because the infinite zero cost CC ability fails to CC like 10 guys out of 100

Normal builds have to contend with all 100 of those fuckers

[rich spindle]

Purg takes skill

[patent mango]

when do we attempt the 4 smyker havoc 40 on new rotation

[steel flame]

Sounds like fun

[summer prairie]

rotten stimms or rotten healing?

[steel flame]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyMXVlcmVxbHU1MWxweWY0NW1vM2p4a3RjMmZhdjVtM3Q4NXAwcnZiaSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/iKBAAfYNDu1dowhnEj/giphy.gif

[plucky flax]

Real

So many ppl do low damage with such an op staff

[white valley]

Purg requires good positioning, good awareness, and good blaze away management as well as target prioritization

[steel flame]

Considering blaze away triggers even on m1......yeah not really

[radiant yew]

I have achieved equilibrium

[quartz barn]

Target prio?

I blaze the entire room

[steel flame]

if you are not awlays at max stacks of blaze away on purge.....you forgot to put blaze away on your purge

[white valley]

Yes but you should prioritize nearby specials sometimes, and position yourself to hit the most elites

Sometimes enemies come from different directions and you have to shift attention from one side to the other

[white valley]

This is suboptimal dps lmao, maintaining blaze away with m1 is worse for dps than m2

[quartz barn]

You dont use m1 for dps anyway

[steel flame]

you can litterally stack blaze away on the move with m1

[barren garnet]

does lingering influence affect the movement speed or just the damage?

[quartz barn]

It staggers so you have time to charge m2

Or crit for ee to close the distance

[steel flame]

other than knowing when to m1 and when to m2 and not dying with purge.....

[quartz barn]

This is fine but just use m2 for higher dmg uptime

And with ee you wont get hit

[white valley]

Sure, but what I mean is that in situations with lots of enemies, optimal dps is charging m2 to close to half to maintain blaze away stacks and still apply as much soulblaze as possible

[quartz barn]

At the end of the day its more about proper movement, positioning and dodging rather than m1 - m2 usage

[steel flame]

oooooo purge staff soooooooo hard

[white valley]

True enough

[white valley]

No one said this

[icy breach]

You lose to bosses

[quartz barn]

No this was def talked about before

Most people dont know how to use purg due to lack of neutral skill

[white valley]

Fundamentally good defensive play and good uptime, that's basically what inferno requires skill-wise

[icy breach]

Smite too

[solid pond]

if everyone smites the boss the boss can't move

[steel flame]

you talk it up like you need anything other than knowing how to move

[white valley]

Do not speak its name

[icy breach]

SMITE

[steel flame]

yall need to get out any try more shit

[white valley]

You'd be surprised at how many players aren't capable of that

[solid pond]

can't

[steel flame]

oh i know, but thats got nothin to do with the flame staff

[quartz barn]

Tbf the majority of the playerbase is stuck in heresy

[wraith sphinx]

LESS TALKIN' MORE KILLIN'

[white valley]

Rock be upon ye

[patent mango]

bosses is when gameplay happens

[quartz barn]

4 smite = giga dps

[solid pond]

3 players keep smiting 1 kills boss

[wraith sphinx]

This chat has been yapping about smite so much I now feel inspired to redo my smite gunker build

[patent mango]

https://youtu.be/9xuOxcUPjd4

old havoc lol

[steel flame]

personally i think we need to make every psyker play 40 hours of blazing spirit trauma, then we would have the best movement in the entire game

[patent mango]

a hell naw

😨

[wraith sphinx]

HELL NAW

[quartz barn]

But ive already done that

Also wdym it teaches movement

Just m2 the floor under you

[white valley]

Love blazing trauma

[quartz barn]

The true skill is using trauma on grated stairs

[white valley]

True and real

[wraith sphinx]

TRUE

[white valley]

Worst thing about trauma, STAIRS

[steel flame]

i did it with quell canceling and that shit was some of the most finger intensive shit ever to still dodge with it, while not blowing up and having no dodges left

[quartz barn]

No not just any stairs

The open ones

Your attack goes through them

Same for bubble

[white valley]

Imagine defeating 10 crushers only to be defeated by stairs

[quartz barn]

Mfw i bubble the floor only to see it spawn oob

[wraith sphinx]

Imagine not having pixel perfect aim

[quartz barn]

Its reversed man

Not my fault i aim for the round teardrop holes

[wraith sphinx]

It's ok nut nothing is ever our fault

If something goes wrong it's the non psyker player's fault

[white valley]

True

It's their fault for not being psychic and having incomparable minds

[radiant frigate]

arby players really be out there with comparable minds

smh

[wraith sphinx]

It takes a considerably comparable mind to resist making the lex = sex jokes every 2 minutes

[radiant frigate]

as well as strong force of will to resist naming the character Sesbian Lex

(i have seen this and rarely have i ever been so disappointed)

[deft stump]

Fem!Loner x Fem!Fatalist go!

[wraith sphinx]

Signalis player detected

[white valley]

The lex is the lex

And the sex is the sex

[wraith sphinx]

fine work, sexmate

(sorry not sorry)

[white valley]

Lmfao

Remember to name your cyber mastiff tyrannosaurus lex

[wraith sphinx]

I named my mastiff Reynauld

like that cool guy from darkest dungeon

I kinda don't really play dog arby because I wish I could sic the dog with long pressing my ping button once instead of double tapping it

[zealous wing]

you can have it be single click

[wraith sphinx]

oh?

[ripe obsidian]

I know. But my damage tends to be lower nonetheless. I can't say for certain why

[zealous wing]

i did that and just removed single click doing anything, helps me tag things in the dark on other classes too

[wraith sphinx]

where is that in the settings?

[zealous wing]

uhhh

hold

[steel flame]

i dont like reynauld much........he was always giving me the middle finger in vermitide

[zealous wing]

input

very very bottom

[ripe obsidian]

I am disappointed by the lack of Law'zel Arbies.

[wraith sphinx]

thanks

[zealous wing]

in other news thats completely unimportant to everyone elses life, i have found a new theming idea for my builds will probably have to change inferno, but very limited on cosmetics atm without repeats

this would give me 7 builds for serious gameplay and one for silliness

plus, the other psykers for added silliness

[radiant frigate]

in terms of performance it's actually a lot less Lae'zel and a lot more Tzarina Katarin

[ripe obsidian]

That's harder to make a pun of

[steel flame]

arbys with a side of fries

[ripe obsidian]

All of my characters have a naming scheme for some reason. I came up with the Zealot first, and the rest just went with it.

Spoony-Threepus
Joony-Dreepus
Loony-Greepus
Goony-Cleepus
Puny-Beepus

[zealous wing]

missed oppurtunity to pull an inky blinky pinky clyde situation

[ripe obsidian]

This is a fair point

I did it a little with the Ogryn name. He uses a U instead of OO

@summer prairie and @plucky flax thoughts on Blazing versus Rending Trauma on H40?

[summer prairie]

blazing is a bit better damage, rending a bit better control and possibly team buff

depends on whether the rest of your team does damage I guess

[royal totem]

Does anybody know when do arbitrators say "the lex is the lex" or is it random

[wraith sphinx]

Battlecry

one personality does say it as a convo topic too though

[royal totem]

Huh. Got it.

I just play a fatalist

[ashen edge]

What is you guys opinion on this season havoc? Right now I feels it's become harder and 3 of my friend can't carry one middling skill friend in havoc 40 now. each waves feels bloat with damage sponge enemy

[ripe obsidian]

It is harder.

More specials, larger elite hordes, hard modifiers.

[ashen edge]

The damage reduction like stim and rotten armor feels oppressive for vet also.

[ashen edge]

Do you have any data on the spawn rate before and after this patch?

I read that they decided to reduce crusher spawn but for me it's still quite them same

[summer prairie]

The special spawn rate changes

Similar to how auric high int is resistance 6 now, havoc also has resistance 6

not the same values though

[ripe obsidian]

Stim damage reduction is oppressive for everyone

[wraith sphinx]

same, best arby

[ripe obsidian]

What is num_coordinated_surges_range? I think I understand the rest

[ripe obsidian]

Male Authoritarian is the best. He just wants to make friends.

"I have been attempting to increase my joviality" or something

[wraith sphinx]

he's too "model arby/promotion material" type to my liking

[plucky flax]

Only play rending when there's already another soulblaze psyker

[summer prairie]

based on a quick skim it would appear to be the total times a coordinated strike can happen, so higher values should be more difficult

but the values are weirdly low for a full mission so I'm probably missing something

maybe it gets reset after one of the timers

[ripe obsidian]

I like how naive he is. At one point he asks what "karking" means

[ripe obsidian]

The thing I have noticed in practice is significantly more of the same special at once. Usually bombers or snipers

[ripe obsidian]

I have had people ask me to play rending in rotten armor missions. I've done a little of both.

[azure current]

ANyone have a good smite build for havoc?

[ripe obsidian]

:(

I have smite builds in my pinned guide

But smite is worthy of a >:(

[plucky flax]

I would tell them to do one.

Like if vet people dare cry about no bubble then they can run smoke themselves.

[wraith sphinx]

yeah he's the perfect type for the loose cannon to get a rise from

[azure current]

As in smite is bad?

[ripe obsidian]

I have people cry about no bubble constantly. Someone gave me a lecture about how I was making it harder for the team because I wasn't fulfilling my meta role.

[ripe obsidian]

Smite is... complicated. It's very strong. But people have Opinions on it, myself included. I have written them down in the guide, too.

I would recommend reading what I wrote

And I think there are three Smite builds to choose from?

[marble crater]

"Smite bad." - Six, 2025

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, that is a direct quote from me. I outright call anything I dislike bad.

Garbage tier, trash, and worthless.

[plucky flax]

Ah well.

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think I am wrong to feel frustrated if people can't survive without bubble. Just like a vet or Zealot should be frustrated with me if I can't survive without yellow toughness.

[strong gulch]

It's ok. I will bubble and we will still die because of skill issue.

[ripe obsidian]

I will die because I forgot to take off JaD and blow myself up. :D

I had a funny death the other day. I was trying Vet for the first time since the rework, and I jumped to try to lob a grenade over a mauler and into a crusher. But while I was in midair, the crusher overheaded me. Like swatting a fly.

[icy breach]

Enjoy!

[strong gulch]

lmao jump tech

[ripe obsidian]

I think this is almost identical to the smite shriek build I have

[strong gulch]

Also, I cut the fingies of my gloves a bit, so I should be able to click and not click buttons more reliably for the next time we play.

[marble crater]

Gaming gloves?

[azure current]

Thank you both. Lesson learned-I definitely suck and should probably stick to other builds

[strong gulch]

basically

compression gloves

[icy breach]

Why do you wear gloves while playing video games? No central heating in house or smth?

[icy breach]

Elaborate; i’m curious

[strong gulch]

the new ones prevent me clicking and holding buttons and kept clicking others I didn't mean to

a little snip helped

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/snip-snap-the-office-gif-23350032

[strong gulch]

I need compression gloves because I have bad hands. Not super bad, but they are painful and I lose the ability to even hold the mouse without compression and sometimes pain relievers.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, you're 2 nodes different than mine. +Warp Ghost +Anticipation, -Just a Dream, -Whatever the center EP node is called

[azure current]

Six in your build is ther a specific one you recommend for havoc 40s? I want to compare it to what I currently do with inferno/bubble

[marble crater]

That sucks, maybe it's time to convert you to controller gaming

[ripe obsidian]

It's not that smite sucks. It's that smite players will often play in a way that negatively impacts the enjoyment of others

[strong gulch]

It's a big reason why I struggle to chain heavies, swap cancel, need full auto mod, etc.

[azure current]

Just to be clear, I'm saying I suck at smite. I was struggling to kill anything and triggering empowered psionics

[strong gulch]

I sweat too much. Controller slips from my hands.

[ripe obsidian]

I personally use Inferno + Shriek a lot. Voidblast shriek/bubble is also quite strong, with Blazing Spirit being a bit stronger in most cases. EK shriek/SG is good, but requires more work to achieve results.

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, yeah, smite does not do much damage.

Melee Psyker is very strong right now, though it is also harder than inferno or voidblast

[strong gulch]

I'm too sweaty to keep playing elden ring.

[ripe obsidian]

I should probably make a Havoc section of the guide and compile the relevant builds into it.

[strong gulch]

Ye. People will ask.

[ripe obsidian]

Probably make subsections for meta and off-meta

[icy breach]

Just a dream is bad for smite cause you won’t hold it for long if you get shot/hit by flames/gas
Psykic leeching is not the best for smite cause you don’t really spam it to be proced consistently to matter

Warp ghost is good cause it lets you keep defensive buffs while repositioning like OWTW or IF while also allowing you to always have high souldblaze on shriek
Anticipation will help your survivability cause dodges are the main thing that keeps you alive and its also your maneuving tool

[ripe obsidian]

I'd say meta is Inferno and both Voidblasts with bubble. Off-meta is Inferno/VB + Shriek or melee builds

[ripe obsidian]

Fair points. I can adjust the build in the guide.

[marble crater]

Usually it's the sweats who keep playing it to do NG + 9000 no hit lvl 1 runs

[plucky flax]

Bubble meta

It's all ogre now.

[ripe obsidian]

I've been getting off the JaD train anyway. It's nice damage resist, but it has killed me a lot. Both from headsploding and from having too high peril in situations where I need to be able to cast and can't quell

[icy breach]

Released mine long time ago but with the new update i put it on hold till i get another H40 game to showcase (still not on H40 cause early on crashes cost me many lvs)

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[ripe obsidian]

I can link it in the guide if you give me a link

I want to link to as many not-me builds as possible

[plucky flax]

Link unsanctioned psyker op burga build

[ripe obsidian]

I might have already

[plucky flax]

Rat with knife

Sometimes still get overhead during slide run tho veri sad

[icy breach]

Once i get a game and upload it i will upload again the build on gameslantern & send ya a link
Should not take long; i’m at 39

[ripe obsidian]

I literally already did link your inferno build

:(

[strong gulch]

or dogged 😭

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds good, thank you.

[plucky flax]

Hmm does that one have just a dream? I abandoned my dream after instant death no downstate

Never again

[icy breach]

No cause its bad for smite

[plucky flax]

Im asking about inferno build

[ripe obsidian]

Is the "Creeping Flames All Over the Map" video

Gimme new link and I will post it

But yeah, Just a Dream feels more and more like a trap node for staffker the more I use it.

[tulip kettle]

i play one game with crystalline will

[ripe obsidian]

Probably much better for meleeker

[plucky flax]

Can you change it to this link then owtw rather than jade
https://youtu.be/GAQo0fNhCws

[tulip kettle]

post a video here "why did i die"

oh yeah, its bugged

never again.

[strong gulch]

hi dom

miss u

[tulip kettle]

evenin squire

[icy breach]

2,7 milion huh

[plucky flax]

No purple so it's good damagw

Was rot and stim

[ripe obsidian]

Will do when I get home

[tulip kettle]

rot and stim has damage numbers higher than any purple i ever saw before

[ripe obsidian]

The only difference between yours and mine right now is that you have Quietude and I have Immaterial Focus. I might try Quietude.

[plucky flax]

Wut? I did 5 mils on purple

[tulip kettle]

with rot i guess?

[plucky flax]

No was with 21st xd

Ez damage farm

[tulip kettle]

ah, if youre farming then sure i guess

[ripe obsidian]

Highest I have is 4.3m currently. Was a 50 minute game, forget the modifiers. Probably purple + rot or stims

[tulip kettle]

but i also think something changed with the way the spawns work from last season

it seems to me that if you dont move forward you just get spammed

[icy breach]

I had like 2,8 mil on my smite on no purple

[plucky flax]

But i play aggressively i run ahead and hope team follow so i naturally just do way more damage than a regular person

[tulip kettle]

like, i have frequently been getting a million damage in the first area if team wont move forward

[plucky flax]

I can guarantee you i will do more damage then smite

[strong gulch]

Syllo says that they did change.

At least the specials / coordinated strikes are different.

[thorn cedar]

i did 69mil as gunker once

at least thats what my dreams say

[ripe obsidian]

One day I hope to hit 5m damage total.

[thorn cedar]

but my beloved would never lie

[icy breach]

Then you woke up i know the pain

[tulip kettle]

it also feels like, if literally all 4 players dont pull their weight you jus wont do enough dps and lose

[plucky flax]

Well no you still only need 2 players to pull weight

[icy breach]

Gimme the scoreboards and we’ll see

[plucky flax]

We can play soon if you want

Eu server

[weary sable]

Sounds like a challenge, does it not?

[tulip kettle]

idk too many times im hitting frankly silly damage numbers, and still its just not enough

[weary sable]

Why would it not be enough you reckon?

[plucky flax]

Maybe because it's only you doing damage. You need 1 more guy to help

When I play with syllo it's just us 2 in the 2 mils+ and the 2 pugs are sub 1 mil

[summer prairie]

2 players can be enough damage but ideally the other two players don't die and contribute in some way

[icy breach]

I planned not to play today due to me not even being yet home… + its best to do seperate runs; thats why i asked for scoreboards

[tulip kettle]

playing ascension riser yesterday with 2 other genuinely good players and one guy who prbably shouldnt have been in the game

the 2 guys were playing vet and spamming kraks

[plucky flax]

Well scoreboard is pretty subjective. The scoreboard doesn't show modifier. Purple gonna give you way more damage farm

I can post this for the lul but it was just a bad game.

[tulip kettle]

thats just, nsane though, right?

[icy breach]

But if you get 2 psykers the soulblaze overlaps with each other so its worse to state what did more dmg due to me or you taking the soulblaze stacks ifvyou know what i mean

Hard to explain

[tulip kettle]

like surely we all recognise that thats just too much damage

[ripe obsidian]

I need one person to keep crushers off of me, and I can kill the rest. Preferably someone to kill specials as well.

[verbal thistle]

damage is hard to tract on scoreboard because of DoT ownership

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I recommend against double soulblaze in the build guide

[plucky flax]

I can play meme surge surge no soulblaze build and we'll see.

[tulip kettle]

this is my experience, essentially i am burning everything but when 30 rot crushers come i just cant burn them all quick enough, we get boxxed in, someone downs and then its a cascade failure over the next couple mins

[ripe obsidian]

I should probably put a Guidelines for Psyking section at the top. Or something that covers mechanics such as Soulblaze theft.

[plucky flax]

Syllo is a good player and he did 2.7m on shriek purg I did 2.3m so I can't be behind a smite.

[ripe obsidian]

That is how a lot of my rot games end, mostly when the vet runs out of kraks

[tulip kettle]

then they stimm up and become essentially immune to DoT's and its just like, wtf do we do now, vets dont have 30 kraks

exactly

[plucky flax]

2 people with damage other 2 chilling

[ripe obsidian]

I've had very few good Ogryns lately to soak up crusher aggro.

[tulip kettle]

yeah but chaos you are cracked

[weary sable]

@tulip kettle Crowd Control will help with preventing you getting boxed in.

[tulip kettle]

and so is syllo

lol gtfo evelyn

i am not struggling to pull my weight

[weary sable]

I never said you would.

[tulip kettle]

and idk how i can CC 30 crushers when im already running inferno

and doing more dmg than the other 3 players combined

[weary sable]

Either not running inferno or have someone else do something to assist.

[plucky flax]

I would advise to run away.

[weary sable]

Or, yes, run away.

[verbal thistle]

It's very interesting

from experience with total random people from party finder

[plucky flax]

See crushers? Nope out of there real fast
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1427346151581024358/Desktop_2025.10.13_-_18.23.27.09.mp4?ex=68efd8b1&is=68ee8731&hm=bbe5f86358958c627aebd79e70c0d96db22346f619e5d9cf36ef9c60ecd228f7&

[verbal thistle]

the main things that gets them killed is not backing up

[weary sable]

Naturally you will do more damage then 3 players combined. AoE will always trump those that have less of it.

[verbal thistle]

even though there is so much room

[ripe obsidian]

Most Ogryns I have had are just rumbler spammers

[verbal thistle]

Bumblers

[tulip kettle]

sometimes after drop downs we just, run out of room

[verbal thistle]

Drops are good places to understand the map triggers

you can do many things

you can even send a sacrifice down to trigger everything while everyone else stands at the top

[ripe obsidian]

And fighting in bad places while two walls of crushers close in.

[verbal thistle]

the 3 pull agro by doing damage

[summer prairie]

Still not sure if I have seen the new blockade since the fix

[ripe obsidian]

Nor have I. I'm just talking about the random hordes of crushers

[summer prairie]

Was just wondering if someone has

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz, maybe?

[verbal thistle]

yeah

I get it alot in solos

its like 4-6 bulwark 2-4 mauler, 2-3 reaper, 2-3 gunner

from what I've seen

they still spawn the same

[summer prairie]

that includes the behind and the front blockade?

[verbal thistle]

in total

but I dont notice them spawning from 2 directions

now that you say that

Also, playing rotten armor in solo is weird

I dont think it works on maps that arent in rotation

I dont get armor hordes

[summer prairie]

Weird

[verbal thistle]

Playing excise vault

for context

let me do a solo run real quick

to test blockade

[white valley]

Saw it yesterday

Basically like 10 bulwarks and 10 gunners

[visual trellis]

Psyker build for smite?

[white valley]

Cooked us unfortunately cause we were down to 2 players

[jovial juniper]

Gimme a sec

[visual trellis]

I just like bio-lightening I don’t need the bullshit meta stuff

[jovial juniper]

Or 30 seconds

Or an hour

[ripe obsidian]

Looks like it's bulwarks and gunners/shotgunners/shooters from ahead, and mostly melee elites from behind

Per the code at least

[jovial juniper]

Actually I shouldn't

[white valley]

We were in an elevator so nothing showed up from behind

[jovial juniper]

Or I'll run out of data

[verbal thistle]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045852632687849602 I'm doing a test run to see how it looks in game

[white valley]

Melee elites might have just died

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, reverse that

Bulwark/gunner behind, melee elites ahead

[white valley]

Ah, then I think melee elites basically spawned closer

And the bulwarks and gunners spawned further away

[ripe obsidian]

Or, no. I am confusing myself. It's reversed for dregs.

[white valley]

But we were in an elevator

[ripe obsidian]

Sorry, I am in a meeting and multitasking

Okay, for real this time: blockade is bulwarks, reapers, ragers, and for scabs maulers behind (with a couple regular gunners), then bulwarks, gunners, shotgunners, and shooters ahead. Sorry again

[zealous wing]

its official, i dislike obscurus

[visual trellis]

Why everyone making fun of me I just like lightening

[white valley]

Because we hate smite in this house, young sibling

[ripe obsidian]

So it looks like the new goal of the blockade is to smash you with melee from behind while gunners plink at you from ahead

[ripe obsidian]

Look at the smite section of the pinned build bonanza. It explains the thoughts behind smite.

[acoustic jacinth]

As someone who only uses deimos, yes totally

[ripe obsidian]

I will be updating those smite builds slightly this evening

[ripe obsidian]

Obscurus is hard

[strong gulch]

I'm too smooth brain for combos.

[plucky flax]

Can heavy spam with deimos and call it a day.

[acoustic jacinth]

Does it reach deimos heavy thrust damage and knockback properties?

[strong gulch]

Knock back? no but has faster ttk on single

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna play 1 or 2 games? (Hopefully we win)

[strong gulch]

I can play a couple

[visual trellis]

Ah I see

[icy breach]

Use smite lmao

[plucky flax]

Can just do auric if you don't feel like havoc. I want to test some stuff on other classes.

[icy breach]

To me its poor positioning which what you described comes into

[icy breach]

I like that word

[icy breach]

And in such situations purg will not save ya
Smite will

[strong gulch]

I haven't don't much of the new havocs, so if you don't want to constantly pick me up, then aurics.

[icy breach]

Generally a bad idea tho

[verbal thistle]

depends on player

[visual trellis]

Sadly brain blast takes too long so far and I just don’t like assail I do not vibe with it

Hmm

[verbal thistle]

I always go drop 1st

since I know I can live

[acoustic jacinth]

If yall will play for some time i can join soon, if that's okay. I'd like to stress test my zealot down for anything

[visual trellis]

Hmmmm

[plucky flax]

Sure how long you need?

[white valley]

Blitzes are not weapons, they are tools, if you use them like weapons you will be disappointed

[acoustic jacinth]

5 mins or so

[plucky flax]

Ye I'll wait

[acoustic jacinth]

[ripe obsidian]

Smite is strong. That much is inarguable. But many people dislike the playstyle it engenders. Use it if you want.

[acoustic jacinth]

Thanks mate

[zealous wing]

i've also not gotten it upgraded any sort of decent, im on psyker4 atm, trying to figure out the combos without help, its slow and tedious, but, i very much prefer good hordeclear options that are quick to access, and, obscurus is hard to keep the light heavy going because, if you fuck up, you have to block cancel or swap to reset

[acoustic jacinth]

I can vc too once im on

[icy breach]

Omw home

[zealous wing]

im finding learning new weapons more fun on new characters

i know how to illisi now, so now its obscurus turn

[ripe obsidian]

You are Ainz. What is successful for you is not possible for doofuses like me.

Also, do you want any of your builds or videos linked in the guide?

[verbal thistle]

if anyone asks for them sure

[ripe obsidian]

I think I made that distinction in the guide, that Smite is a tool. If I didn't, I need to.

[verbal thistle]

I also just was showing the stagger on captins the sword has

[plucky flax]

I don't do vc I am very anti social.

[visual trellis]

Idk I’m trying to find a flow in psyker that I like
I can agree the smites playstyle seems boring but like

The whole allure of being a psyker is psyking

I wanna use Biomancy and channel the warp

Not just occasionally whip it out when the chainsword ain’t enough

[ripe obsidian]

I am asking for them, from you. Whatever you want added. I am trying to compile things so everyone gets to add to the project

[icy breach]

Hyper Bruh

[verbal thistle]

sure I can make them in gameslantern

[plucky flax]

Havoc 40 is not to the level of mmorpg raiding.

[white valley]

staves exist ya know

[plucky flax]

Where call out and stuff is needed.

Xd

[radiant frigate]

you can do a lot of casting and never touch smite

[ripe obsidian]

Play what you want to play.

[white valley]

MMORPG raiding is easier lmao

[plucky flax]

Hrm..

[white valley]

Been there, done that

[zealous wing]

within reason (not ruining everyone elses gameplay)

[radiant frigate]

that depends entirely on the people you work with

[plucky flax]

I did low man gw2 raiding it needed talking.

[white valley]

Well, maybe different kind of difficulty I suppose

[plucky flax]

And knowing boss mechanics and shits.

[radiant frigate]

good team? easy game

[visual trellis]

Haven’t tried them all yet
Voidstrike was just not good
Electrokenetic wasn’t bad but isn’t all that

Having gotten a voidblast yet and haven’t unlocked the inferno staff

[white valley]

Yeah I suppose that's true

[radiant frigate]

not so good team? nightmare time :)

[plucky flax]

Some people are like drones. I need to tell them if something is coming soon to dodge/move.

[white valley]

Aye aye that's true

Some people also can't do two things at once

Bro you can move your character and keep dpsing ya know

[zealous wing]

what was wrong with EK?

[plucky flax]

Also dps people with shit rotation and do low damage

[radiant frigate]

"hey guys watch out and get ready to move because boss is about to do the murderstab 9000 in this area"

[radiant frigate]

SOME PEOPLE DO NEITHER

[icy breach]

Yeah; i have the opposite; i’m metodical & strategic

[white valley]

Balsco why is your dps on the dummy lower than mine but higher in the trials? Because you stop attacking and I don't despite your build having higher damage potential

[visual trellis]

Just wasn’t scratching the itch but definitely the better of the two I’ve tried

Maybe it’s just it’s not as like big and flashy as smite maybe it’s actually performance
Cosmetics and stats blend together for me

[plucky flax]

You can be pal with deadvoid. Crawling through the map leisurely.

[white valley]

Hahaha true

[acoustic jacinth]

that's alright, i'm here now, loading in

[visual trellis]

I play based on vibes when it comes to weapons

[zealous wing]

such a psyker thing to say

[white valley]

play suipsyker build, best vibes

[plucky flax]

I was raid lead somehow though so I often was the tank/aggro grab person.

[visual trellis]

Is this just having max wounds and constantly peril bombing

[acoustic jacinth]

i play whatever fits my class and only that, otherwise i go nuts and slam my head into the monitor

[white valley]

No but yes, you take the crystalline will talent that increases your explosion range and damage and also makes it so you don't get wounded if you kill an elite with it

[verbal thistle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a01d0f80-52cf-42aa-bb44-0924e8a5f9c7/soyking-it https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a01d1051-8cfe-4cca-82a3-899e77d73196/trauma-but-not-the-streamer

@ripe obsidian

[white valley]

Oh and you can take a bistol with the lethal proximity blessing to increase explosion range even more

[verbal thistle]

main 2 I use rn

[plucky flax]

Based build

[visual trellis]

Ah great
Light the fuse krieg

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you. I will add them when I get home

[verbal thistle]

I was testing a EP BB but havent finalized it

[white valley]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[verbal thistle]

I got a funny clip from the mission i was testing it

also, EP BB can 1 tap plasma

idk what buffs I had

Rinda just wants to talk to me

I like how she stood there

I thought she was a plasma gunner

[ripe obsidian]

Well, yes. Play what you want to play so long as you aren't negatively impacting others in a significant way. If someone's, like, arguing that you're trolling by doing a somewhat off-meta build, meh. But running, like, EP Assail in H40 Rotten Armor would be quite a choice.

[ripe obsidian]

SG Trauma is fascinating. Did not think that would be a good combo.

[verbal thistle]

its literally 100% peril uptime

I could just spam trauma

I only take in rotten armor

with how they changed PA

it counts down the cooldown even while gaze is active

[ripe obsidian]

That is fair. I will add it

Yup, I have seen that

Is funny

[verbal thistle]

waiter

waiter

more psyker buffs

[ripe obsidian]

SG now gives +100% cleave, applies 4 stacks of Soulblaze on hit, and causes enemies who hit you to get knocked back.

[verbal thistle]

gold toughness too

[jovial juniper]

No no

[ripe obsidian]

New secret interaction: toughness gained from Quietude during SG is gold.

[jovial juniper]

Quelled peril becomes golden Toughness

Now that's how we like it

Scriers Crack infinite gold tg uptime

[ripe obsidian]

I want the other Shriek node to make horde enemies frenzy.

:(

Not elites or specials, but like bruisers and stuff

For 0.35 seconds per 10% peril when Shrieking or something

Make them attack the closest target, ally or enemy

Make it interesting. Not just a crappy +10% damage boost

I also want to replace Smite with Cassia's Point of Interest from Rogue Trader, but that's never happening.

[jovial juniper]

I'd personally make it so Warp Rupture staggers everything
Like the mortis Trials indulgence

[ripe obsidian]

Arby's shock mine feels like Smite lite. It's very helpful for keeping people alive during rotten armor H40s

[jovial juniper]

Then psyker would have a reliable way of staggering bosses

[ripe obsidian]

That would be good. Heavy stagger on all enemies hit, regardless the range

Knock over the entire crusher patrol

[ripe obsidian]

Scrier's Gaze now gives the Psyker stealth for the duration, as enemies cannot target you when you foresee their every move.

[white valley]

Scrier's Gaze now makes you see all enemies, a la disrupt destiny but for everything

[zealous wing]

would make the name check out

[wraith sphinx]

I don't know guys

still too weak

why are you being so anti player with your buff suggestions?

[zealous wing]

make it +50% movespeed, base, cannot have any attack interrupted, and when scrier's gaze warp unbound grace timer ends, you explode, taking no damage nor corruption, and kill everything present on the map

[ripe obsidian]

Scrier's Gaze allows you to find where Wolfer is hiding and hunt him down

[zealous wing]

scriers gaze turns on friendly fire, but only you can hurt your teammates

[white valley]

Scrier's Gaze lets you go to the 2nd hive city to fight pants thieves

Scrier's Gaze also lets you see the Darktide Roadmap that Fatshark keeps in their basement

[royal totem]

oh god. i got saved by quietus T__T

[ripe obsidian]

Quietude?

[strong gulch]

No audio cues for specials continues to be bad. lmao

[royal totem]

sorry Quietude

[ripe obsidian]

Quietude is good now

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I keep getting bopped by trappers and dogs that I don't hear until it's too late

[thorn cedar]

its Quietus now

keep up

[ripe obsidian]

My mind is not in motion, I can't keep up

[royal totem]

had to clutch against 3 crushers 4 ragers a sniper, a tox bombers, a trapper and a bulwark with an inky dinky inferno staff

[wraith sphinx]

hmm

feeling sorta devious tonight

😈

[strong gulch]

Ye. What's interesting is when my partner and I play, he gets a lot of the audio cues I'm missing. I only hear muties in his game.

I also get fewer of them when we play together.

[ripe obsidian]

I wonder if it's a mod or something? Or weird audio prioritization?

[ripe obsidian]

I'm debating moving Immaterial Focus to Quietude. I am not sure if that 10% damage resist is worth more than the toughness regen.

[royal totem]

i did that. and i sadly can't give you any results though cuz i don't play at high enough difficulty since biggest noob here and all

[ripe obsidian]

I'll probably try it, now that I have soured on Just a Dream

And also maybe move my last health curio over to toughness. Unsure.

[royal totem]

i'm running a very meme curio setup

[steel flame]

It's the game engine, sound channels in both dt and Helldivers get overwhelmed and just stop working

[royal totem]

1 stam 1 wound 1 toughness

[royal totem]

why that setup? i have no clue and i'm too lazy to change it at this point

[ripe obsidian]

How unfortunate. I do notice it more in certain areas with more ambient sounds. Everything just gets muted and weird

[ripe obsidian]

Get rid of wound

Stamina is arguable

[ripe obsidian]

Katt

Skokatt

[royal totem]

with how much i blow up that would be ......a mistake lmao

[steel flame]

And since it's the game engine and not the server, the sound breaks differently for everyone or sometimes not at all

For me, poxbursters never have sound so I've had to install a few mods with visual cues instead

[zealous wing]

throw yourself into the deep end

if you blow up to death, you learn faster because it gets boring fast

[steel flame]

I sentence this man to 40 hours blazing trauma, after which he will need to force himself to blow up

[ripe obsidian]

Makes sense. Very unfortunate

[zealous wing]

blazing trauma isnt that bad

40 hours also isnt that much

[royal totem]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[steel flame]

200 hours then

[royal totem]

faints

[zealous wing]

thats like, half their current playtime

[steel flame]

PRE QUELL CHANGE

[zealous wing]

we cant send people back in time to that

[steel flame]

Dam

Ngl quell on r tap was just a straight buff to trauma

Still wish it hadn't been changed tho

Stupid macro-morons ruining everything

[royal totem]

Huh i havent played with hexis in a while

[zealous wing]

yeah its been like

a whole 2 days

maybe three?

[royal totem]

Only two? I havent been counting

[zealous wing]

idk ive had a bad migraine last 4 so

[royal totem]

Ooof 🙁

[zealous wing]

we did the whole damnation with lowest level character shenanigan thing

[royal totem]

Oh right.

I embarrassed myself so i blocked from memory

[zealous wing]

it was a cool fight though

[royal totem]

Died to a burgle 🙁

[zealous wing]

it was damnation you were like,,,, what level did you bring?

someone was level 8

[royal totem]

17

[zealous wing]

i think thats stil heresy locked

[royal totem]

Burgles are kinda hard with no shield and using inferno staff

[zealous wing]

im genuinely surprised i lasted as long as i did

[royal totem]

Too skilled to die

[zealous wing]

level 2 psyker, didnt stand a chance in that bossfight

[royal totem]

I wanted sut to save me from burgle but nope xD

[zealous wing]

hehehe

but hey, even sut died

for a moment there i was worried we'd wipe

[royal totem]

Cliutches are hard

[royal totem]

I think we did wipe that one. I am no commenting the one i was playing trauma

[zealous wing]

nope we won

[royal totem]

Im just bad at trauma

[strong gulch]

GG and thanks @plucky flax @acoustic jacinth

[royal totem]

Huh thought we failed ascension riser. I remember winning chasm terminus though

[zealous wing]

found the pic

oh

i dont remember doing riser

but, 20 deaths

[royal totem]

Lmaoo

[zealous wing]

3 or 4 of them were mine

all in that final fight

[royal totem]

At least 6 or 8 were mine

Unskilled player

[zealous wing]

nahh

not UNskilled

learning

[royal totem]

Still stuck on h23 despyite Six and Catmiral's best efforts

[strong gulch]

Maybe I too will learn one day.

[royal totem]

Whaaa

[plucky flax]

Grab smash.

[sage salmon]

is my staff good or nah?

[white valley]

your perks suck balls

blessings are good, and modifiers are good

I assume superblindagem is carapace, which you 100% never want on an inferno staff

[wraith sphinx]

yeah was about to say, I assume that's unyielding and carapace

[white valley]

aye

[ripe obsidian]

I played terribly that game and Catmiral kept disconnecting

[ripe obsidian]

I use Unyielding on my fire stick.

[acoustic jacinth]

+1 tbh

unyielding and flak personally

[wraith sphinx]

I forgor what I put on mine

I very rarely play w inferno

[acoustic jacinth]

inferno is fun but also mega weird

it feels like ur not doing shit

when ur doing biiig shit

at least to me

there's no uh

boom to your kills

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno feels nice when your kill feed goes wild

[acoustic jacinth]

no feedback

yes

[ripe obsidian]

But yeah, it is not very good in terms of feedback

Not crunchy

[acoustic jacinth]

yeeee

its prolly why ek is my fav

but purg has its satisfying parts

[ripe obsidian]

Needs more hissing, boiling flesh

[acoustic jacinth]

mauler conga lines and large mixed hordes

veri fun

[ripe obsidian]

I'm gonna try a penetrating flames Inferno stick + bubble next time I do a rotten armor map. See if it feels any better. Is a 5% damage boost to everything but carapace, so we'll see.

[white valley]

remember to use pots too

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=a01d36d6-5366-442a-bddb-b4a13e686f58 critiques welcome

[plucky flax]

Don't ever take coherency radius talent.

[wraith sphinx]

yeah, puppet master is only worth considering if you're running psy vampire instead of IFR

I'd rather take solidity instead, esp if this is intended for havoc

otherwise LGTM, burga is hard to fuck up

[white valley]

Eh, I like the coherency radius

More psykinetic's aura procs

Don't really need the extra quelling speed I don't think

[white valley]

also more procs for ogryns running bruiser

[wraith sphinx]

fair

my only other comment would be JaD with any kind of staff not being a good pairing because the jad induced peril can sneak up on you in the heat of fighting

but if you're confident that won't be an issue then more power to you

[white valley]

Plus, the radius increase is actually enormous, an 8m radius circle has an area of 205 square meters, but with puppet master the area is 615, three times as much

[white valley]

not an issue at all, I have bubble so I'm not getting my peril shot up by random ranged damage

I love JaD

If JaD has no fans I am dead

[wraith sphinx]

jad rocks

testing it out with shieldless staffker was like self-trolling though

on my gunker builds it's sublime

[white valley]

I can see that

[tulip kettle]

jad and crystalline will are already 100% in the bin for me

troll perks that kill you

[white valley]

jad has killed me once on my first day with it and never again

[royal totem]

I claim disconnecting doesnt mean you arent trying. And sometimes no matter your skill a game just...goes badly

[wraith sphinx]

😨

shark is gonna EAT my answers!!!

[young cliff]

Now you can't answer anymore, serves you right for giving away your answers without...wait a second, this is the warp no the feywild

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian @summer prairie blockade

everything in this hallway was blockade

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, that looks right

You made them angery

[white valley]

AI director is a khornate bastard

[tulip kettle]

oh so, im not supposed to see this in literally every section of the map?

interesting

[oak gale]

my mistake for trying to alpha with venting spam, gotta live in the bubble for when untargettable snipers blow your fucking head off through three chainlink walls and a mutant hug

[jovial juniper]

"You will die, die, you will die, die."
Silence
"STOMP YOU FLAT!"

Fucking hilarious

[wraith sphinx]

foreshadowing 😨

[strong gulch]

Full on past out in my chair.

[zealous wing]

oof

[ionic sorrel]

Have a good nap?

[strong gulch]

Idk. I don't nap well.

[white valley]

wtf did I just witness

[strong gulch]

I don't feel super groggy. Just mildly so.

[white valley]

a bullyclub ogryn with a macro to spam L1

[strong gulch]

hopefullly meme

[wraith sphinx]

Meat blender oggy...

[kind jay]

so like, how does the mourningstar crew monitor the rejects? we got servitor bodyvoxes or some shit?

sticking an iphone in psyker's collar

[white valley]

just vox tech I think

[tulip kettle]

hadron always watching us

nah

[white valley]

many vet helmets have vox links afaik

[tulip kettle]

theres athing where the ogryn says "metalface lady always watching us"

and she says from a medicae

"no im not"

[zealous wing]

does she?

i'd love to see that tbh

[kind jay]

yeah

[zealous wing]

[thorn cedar]

i have never noticed that one

[white valley]

Tech priests have vox-casters implanted into their brains directly

[kind jay]

gives me an idea for a meme, but too lazy to make it rn

[tulip kettle]

techpriests dont communicate with vox among themselves

they just use that to speak to unaugmented peons like us

they use the noosphere and one of the hundreds of binharic cant languages

not that im an admech nerd or anything

[kind jay]

interesting

[white valley]

Ofc not, you'd never be one with that profile pic

[unkempt hare]

Been playing gunpsyker and having a bunch of fun but I wanna ask is there a good melee that isn't dueling sword that's good on gun psyker?

[tulip kettle]

force

great

sword

mark

six

[zealous wing]

what dom said

[unkempt hare]

Sounds good

[patent mango]

GREATSWORD MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah its good i thnik

[tulip kettle]

the sword really is both forceful and great

[unkempt hare]

I've been using Deimos and having a bit of fun with that

[patent mango]

i havent used another melee on psyker since it came out

[tulip kettle]

once you go FGS youll never want to use anything else unless you have to

[white valley]

who wouldn't want to play with the moonlight greatsword

[tulip kettle]

its also very easy to use

[white valley]

https://tenor.com/view/moonlight-greatsword-pixel-pixel-art-gif-25849207

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/gnPXDGNfOgr.gif

[tulip kettle]

essentially spam lights for hordes and heavies for elites

[unkempt hare]

Also the quelling blessing I've found is pretty good for gaze

[tulip kettle]

i mean

the other one is more damage

and we all about damage maxxing

[patent mango]

quelling blessing?

[unkempt hare]

Yeah

[patent mango]

cant you just use by crack of b one

[tulip kettle]

really, you should be using by crack of bone

i think he means talent

[unkempt hare]

I have both

[wet belfry]

Im pretty certain that deimos has higher single target dps then dueling sword

[tulip kettle]

and then tranquility through slaughter on gunker builds

thats all the quelling you need

finesse dmg better

and with psykinetics aura usually scriers will be off cooldown before it runs out

so just, use it again

[unkempt hare]

I'm using the build that tanner posted 2 weeks ago and swapped true aim for the peril block talent

[tulip kettle]

tanner mentioned 🤮

[unkempt hare]

Ik but the build ain't bad

[tawdry heath]

How does one actually play psyker I went down about 17 times on heresy 💀

[thorn cedar]

no mind in motion? bad build

[unkempt hare]

That's what I was thinking

[wet belfry]

Channel inner insanity, laugh manically when exploding.

[tawdry heath]

My main goal is to blow up

[patent mango]

psyker is not heresy viable actually only sedition

[tulip kettle]

this

with some very minor variations

[tawdry heath]

I will never use a build I will eyeball it and if I die then I altf4

[tulip kettle]

its not 5%, its 20%

just a straight lie

[patent mango]

yeah blame fatshark their descs are terrible

[rough gale]

Is it really worth it? How it goes with the dmg?

[tulip kettle]

i mean

[patent mango]

its good

[tulip kettle]

20% str is very good

[rough gale]

Aight I'll take it

[tulip kettle]

i think its generally the best blessing on weapons that can take it

[rough gale]

Prefer that than cleave

[zealous wing]

dont get hit

[tulip kettle]

its also cleave

str is dmg and cleave

[rough gale]

Perfect, thanks a lot

damn

awesome

thanks much

[tawdry heath]

The worst part is that my tree is pretty much this

[unkempt hare]

Psyker relies a lot on certain skills like blocking and dodging when in melee combat but also building and quelling peril to maintain toughness is also really important

[jovial fog]

Is the dump stat for all staves warp resistance ?

[unkempt hare]

Yup

[runic tulip]

if i get a kill with smite while using empower psionics do i hv to stop using smite and use it again to get the EP benefits or does it auto activate

[tulip kettle]

broadly yes, but strictly no

voidstrike dumps blast radius

i prefer to dump quell speed over warp res on EK

but thats a personal preference

[jovial fog]

I see, thanks

[unkempt hare]

I'm pretty sure that getting kills with smite as long as you don't end it counts as the same use

[tulip kettle]

do you mean, if you have an EP charge when you first cast it?

[runic tulip]

no, 0 charges when i start casting

[tulip kettle]

yes you need to start a new cast

[strong gulch]

I got the last hit of a Cspawn with a barrel.

Also, my brains are too bad. It's just explosion gaming.

[thorn cedar]

lmao

apparently during this session my fps peaked at 43,356 frames

fucken rendering the future

[zealous wing]

gawdDAMN

[white sky]

That doesn't matter cause the human eye can only see 24,000 fps

[thorn cedar]

smh so much wasted energy

[zealous wing]

that seems like its too high

[kind jay]

well yeah its warhammer 40k not warhammer 60

[jovial juniper]

Bro was rendering darktide 5

[vivid loom]

Can someone give me a good havoc psyker build 😭 my friend plays psyker, I have no idea how yall work but he does basically negative damage every game and im trying to drag him along to low lvl havoc

I think he keeps trying some from gameslantern and YT and might not understand how the interactions work or something

[tulip kettle]

this with inferno staff that has flak and unyielding, melee weapon of choice

blessings on inferno should be warp nexus and blaze away

use bubble, burn all the things, dont explode

[vivid loom]

amazing, tysm

[compact iris]

besties

is electrokinectic staff still the best left click ?

[kind jay]

it is

[ripe obsidian]

AHHHHHHHH POTS ON INFERNO

[ripe obsidian]

I have many builds in the pinned guide. Inferno+Bubble and Voidblast+Bubble are the most meta options

[stuck spruce]

why this one is better than voidblast or voidstrike ?

[ripe obsidian]

Bonus crit chance and damage that those two don't have

[stuck spruce]

i see

[kind jay]

yeah that

[ripe obsidian]

And to a lesser extent, EK is probably the staff that loses the least with LMB builds, as its RMB is functionally single target as well.

[kind jay]

am i throwing by bustin a move mid ambush?

[strong gulch]

no

it's warranted imo

gotta do it

[kind jay]

i also:
blew myself up cause i was distracted dancing
forgot how to push and watched a burster give me a facial in slow motion
let someone bleed out cause i was busy doing 360s to a song

ah here it is

i regret nothing

[strong gulch]

This is not my oggy.

[zealous wing]

i might need that mod