psyker-class

[summer prairie]

unless it's for the crit special maybe

[long saddle]

yeah ik, I'm just not assailing that much and wondering if it or some other node could come in more clutch

I'll test some out

[wind spruce]

@summer prairie do you think it would've been worth it to have PC in this game to add to agentnoob's soulblaze stacks or would taking the ownership just be a detriment or the amount you add when you're mainly sniping specials just be insignificant?

[summer prairie]

Hard to say, but not quite selfless enough to take it just for that

[plucky flax]

Nah dont take it

Let the soulblaze guy cook

[summer prairie]

@ripe obsidian regarding PotS for trauma cara https://streamable.com/5zzaad

25% more damage

same for flak

[ripe obsidian]

Something is fucky there

If it's 25% more

On a 20% rending node

And Trauma should have 100% carapace ADMs per the code

[summer prairie]

I haven't looked at the code in a while but when you inspect you clearly don't

[ripe obsidian]

I have it linked in my pinned guide

In the ADM section

[summer prairie]

with brittleness same setup 832

[ripe obsidian]

But there are multiple things listed for trauma

It could be I used the wrong one

863 matches up with the other one

25% to 45%

480 to 863

[summer prairie]

it was just brittleness, still seeing with pots

[ripe obsidian]

I guess I misread the code

I'll fix that

Trauma has worse ADMs than I thought

Fixed in the guide

Thank you for telling me

Seems like PotS might have value for Trauma then

I thought it was this one, but it's the one above it:

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/473a8e97ee69ae3603a3333402b72255f7a036ff/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/force_staffs/settings_templates/force_staff_damage_profile_templates.lua#L255

So something like this for rending, I suppose. Maybe drop Warp Battery and Psychic Vampire and get... I am not sure. Maybe Battle Meditation? I know JaD is good, but it has killed me enough that I am avoiding it at the moment

[marble crater]

It's all true

[summer prairie]

Isn't it damage_templates.close_force_staff_demolition

and trauma is p1

[ripe obsidian]

That's what I thought

That's why I put that initially

But based on what you're seeing, it's damage_templates.default_force_staff_demolition = {

[summer prairie]

No

It's this

that default has 0.25 adm vs cara

[ripe obsidian]

I thought that's what you were seeing

Sorry, it's almost 5am and my brain is pudding

[summer prairie]

Going from 0.8 adm to 1.0 adm is 25% more damage

0.8*1.25=1

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, you're right

I'm not thinking clearly

Fixed again in the guide

So it seems like PotS is worth it on Voidblast.

[summer prairie]

On average probably better than perfect timing, in particular because it's not additive damage

[ripe obsidian]

I'll need to adjust my Voidblast builds

I am curious to see what build you end up using

[summer prairie]

though for dots perfect timing is probably better

[ripe obsidian]

Could do something like this?

Maybe?

I'll need to test all of my ADMs to make sure I got the code correct, since I borked Voidblast's

[nocturne dust]

JaD definitely could use some QoL

[ripe obsidian]

It's been killing me lately not by headsploding me, but by giving me enough peril that I can't actually attack

[nocturne dust]

[summer prairie]

If your adm is already 1.0, does the 1/4 damage bonus you get add to your base damage or mix into other additive modifiers

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[summer prairie]

To what

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, I misread

Sorry

Again, pudding brain

Ahhhh, I will find out

[nocturne dust]

Wait, this is for the blast damage, right?

[wind spruce]

it wouldnt be selfless at all on the scoreboard with all the SB ownership you'd be stealing

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/f069bde1ebdca0d0b9429b98d24eaf2c14acf32d/scripts/settings/damage/armor_settings.lua#L8

Appears to be this...

Which goes here

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/f069bde1ebdca0d0b9429b98d24eaf2c14acf32d/scripts/utilities/attack/damage_calculation.lua#L72

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't the epicenter have different ADMs

[ripe obsidian]

Man, I thought so

But it has like four ADMs listed on that page

So I know nothing

damage = damage * rended_armor_damage_multiplier

It appears to be just a multiplier

So damage times ADM

But done before anything like finesse

[nocturne dust]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Don't gimme that face. I am revising my opinion based on new information

[nocturne dust]

wtf is p4 demolition

[nocturne dust]

Your new information seems sus

so

    force_staff_secondary = true,
    force_weapon_damage = true,
    ignore_shield = true,
    ignore_stagger_reduction = true,
    ragdoll_push_force = 600,
    stagger_category = "melee",
    suppression_value = 10,
    cleave_distribution = {
        attack = 0.15,
        impact = 0.15,
    },
    ranges = {
        max = 3,
        min = 0.25,
    },
    armor_damage_modifier = {
        attack = {
            [armor_types.unarmored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
            [armor_types.armored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
            [armor_types.resistant] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
            [armor_types.player] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
            [armor_types.berserker] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
            [armor_types.super_armor] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
            [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_75,
            [armor_types.void_shield] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_75,
        },```

Seems like the epicenter just based on the adms

[summer prairie]

right so the extra damage you get from rending when adm is already 1.0 is a multiplier after other damage modifiers

[nocturne dust]

well, order doesn't matter unless there's addition

[summer prairie]

No, but I mean it's a multiplier rather than being another additive damage modifeir

so slightly better than just a node with +5% damage

[nocturne dust]

sure

[nocturne dust]

So yeah, PotS still sucks probably

[long saddle]

idt I've ever run it

maybe it's nice when spamming lmb's

but I don't do it that often

[summer prairie]

forcestaff p4 is voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

wat is bfg then?

[summer prairie]

also voidstrike, but voidstrike has a baby explosion

so your adms are for voidstrike explosion

[nocturne dust]

I'm sure those ADMs will come in handy for the whole 1 damage they give

[ripe obsidian]

Trauma is P1, yeah. I must have confused myself.

I think Inferno is P2 and EK P3

[nocturne dust]

wait but there's also ball adms

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, if Trauma's RMB is 80% for flak and carapace, PotS is a significant damage increase

[ripe obsidian]

Ball is LMB, BFG is RMB projectile, and P4 demolition is blast

I believe

[summer prairie]

if you are playing rotten armor, pots should be decent

[nocturne dust]

IT'S NOT A BALL THO

[ripe obsidian]

Fatshark says it is

[ripe obsidian]

I believe Voidblast hits center mass? Not positive

[nocturne dust]

The things Fire Trauma addicts do to avoid the best brittleness application in the game

[ripe obsidian]

I just did a rending trauma H40 on rotten armor and stims

It was brutal. I played poorly, too

So doubly brutal

[summer prairie]

stimms also makes a lot of things cara so rending also helps there

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-wrong-sam-johnson-sam-johnson-vlog-theyre-mistaken-theyre-completely-wrong-gif-18038086

[summer prairie]

ok maybe not since they give so much dr

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, the flat DR is brutal

I believe rotten also gives flat DR against ranged

[summer prairie]

only affects trauma lmb

[ripe obsidian]

I cannot tell you how demoralizing it is that a Voidblast RMB doesn't know over a blue stimmed bruiser

[ripe obsidian]

Explosive isn't affected, then?

[summer prairie]

No

[ripe obsidian]

Neat

Here I thought it was

[plucky flax]

Play burga and chill

Let team deal with hard stuff

[ripe obsidian]

Burga doesn't help when it's rotten armor and you have no frontline

[nocturne dust]

Play auric and chill

😎

[ripe obsidian]

Reasonable

[plucky flax]

I guess it's gg

[ripe obsidian]

It was. So I swapped to Trauma

[nocturne dust]

Aren't we tanky enough to be the frontline now

[plucky flax]

Ye but you dont cc the crushers with fire

[nocturne dust]

So you're saying Inferno needs buffs

[plucky flax]

Ye left click should stagger crushers again

[nocturne dust]

Sounds good to me

[plucky flax]

5 mils damage on some meme havoc clearly not op enough

[tulip kettle]

yeah i cant lie, i was getting frustrated playing rotten armour + stims and having a million damage before we left the first area. Especially with 2 team mates sub 100k dmg by then. Think it may be a bit too much honestly

but then again im totally washed now so my opinions dont mean shit

i have noticed the game seems to favour forwards movement than slow and clear gameplay even more now, which i like

[marble crater]

Washed you say

[tulip kettle]

indeed

they buffed my meme EK build also

i love it

this with EK and FGS is loads of fun, dont @ me

[zinc phoenix]

Rotten armor juiced crushers are honestly a great mechanic and have ended a few runs for me 😂

I went trauma which mostly worked great but the stagger resist with the difficulty of killing them + narrow corridor maps can lead to Bad Things

[tulip kettle]

i feel like you just, must have tauntgryn

to clear the stimms

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah maybe

But anyway they’re great as a mini boss

[tulip kettle]

until theres a bunch of em and its just like

https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

[zinc phoenix]

Nah that’s cool, the best part of this game is when it throws unusual challenges out

The worst part is the party finder

[wraith sphinx]

🙃

[weary crane]

Yeah that's why shock mines are goated

[plucky flax]

But I do no damage without my dawg.

[zinc phoenix]

Gonna have to snoop for two

[plucky flax]

I cc with shield special and dog mine.

And spamming ability.

Me arby me do bs stuff
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1426970488667897978/Desktop_2025.10.12_-_17.29.42.07.mp4?ex=68edd214&is=68ec8094&hm=4d76effd2e30c9718819b12797a1aede2d2821af1a9baa29e0df3b5b5becf673&

[oak breach]

What's a good gun/melee psyker build? I'm thinking Scrier's, Smite, Disrupt Destiny, Blaze Force Greatsword and Laspistol. Spam Scrier's, kill stuff with the sword, use the pistol to kill shooters and specials, Smite if I really need the stun.

I was also attempting to use that build with EP and Assail, but ended up using Assail more than my actual weapons lol

[marble crater]

There should be a build among the pinned ones

[languid pine]

man i love making dumb builds with psyker

[weary idol]

you're not going to get use out of smite

Scriers+Assail+DD is the go to gun psyker stuff

[oak breach]

I've never found myself using my blitz much in General. Figured a guaranteed stun in a pinch would be a bit better than baseline Assail.

I suppose Assail severs as supplementary hordeclear, and to save on ammo?

I was also trying to run Scrier's with Assail and Empowered Psionics but idk, I don't think I get the best usecase for EP

[marble crater]

EP is for when you really want to use your Blitz, a lot

[zealous wing]

DD ftw

[marble crater]

Otherwise Disrupt Destiny is better for gunker

[uncut sinew]

sciers assail with EP

[zealous wing]

and ye assail is great for clearing last few bits of scattered trash, the trapper running at you while youre clearing a horde, and glorious on CIVI maelstroms

[oak breach]

There's a method to this. Combined with Warp Rider and Warp Unbound and Malefic Momentum, I would melee until 100% Peril and then start throwing out superchardeg Assail darts

Then I realised EP Assail sometimes seems to take 3 throws to kill one Scab Gunner and started to reconsider my build

[zealous wing]

yeah

DD will give you stacks of extra damage with ease

[uncut sinew]

i've been using a build with seeerge, assail, sciers, and EP, it works beautifully until you get a pack of carapece on you, not the best build for havocs for example, but one of my favourites for maelstorms

[zealous wing]

assail and DD are a match made on Terra. see blue target way off a ways, about to run behind cover? assail lockon

[uncut sinew]

dd objectively better for assail, but i like to have nearly unlimited assails

[zealous wing]

i seldom run out

i only run out if im specifically spamming them at the end of scriers

otherwise i only throw them in pairs

[uncut sinew]

if you have an elite or two in the horde, you can clear out the horde without wasting assail at all really

[oak breach]

I generally struggle to get more EP Assail charges even spamming the right click throw. The "get stack on Elite kill" is nice but like, it struggles to actually kill elites by itself. Feels better for just hordeclear

[uncut sinew]

you just have to make your build about assail to make it viable for every use

minus carapece

[zealous wing]

blitz's are supplements, not main courses

[uncut sinew]

but a tasty main course

[oak breach]

Probably why I struggle to work out a good EP build.

EP+Smite is a meme, idk why they put it in the same row
EP+BB doesn't actually oneshot Ogryn, so you'll lose stacks more than you earn them
EP+Assail is nice, but only three buffed darts doesn't seem like much and again, I find myself always spending more stacks than I earn

[wind spruce]

And sometimes assail kills 5 scab gunners with one throw

[uncut sinew]

this is what i've run for a long time, and everytime it delivers

[zealous wing]

dreg maybe, youd have to try really fucking hard to get it to kill scab gunners

[uncut sinew]

seerge them first, then assail, saves a ton of assail charges

[zealous wing]

at that point why not kill them with ek

[uncut sinew]

more fun that way than just using seerge

[oak breach]

I think I've settled on EP Smite + EK staff as well. I like builds where each weapon and ability has a clear role, and Assail's hordeclear is vastly better than its elite-killing ability, so it combos nicely with EK

[zealous wing]

....

why not gun?

[uncut sinew]

boring

[wind spruce]

Just take battle med and bcob instead of going over to ER

[uncut sinew]

with all due respect ofcourse

[zealous wing]

if youre using smite, youve got your stun

[wind spruce]

Gunker-esque builds with LMB EK are sick

[uncut sinew]

possibly, but i do like my -40% peril

[wind spruce]

It's basically a gun

[oak breach]

I already have a gun build, I want something different

[zealous wing]

yeah but that EK is clearly not made for that kind of build, irosk

[wind spruce]

Fair I'm not really paying attention

[zealous wing]

its an EK build stave on a gunker build

[uncut sinew]

based imo, more fun aswell

[wind spruce]

Why do you have two carapace killing weapons

[uncut sinew]

because this built is made around assail, so both the others ones are for carapace

[zealous wing]

what difficulty do you play on

[wind spruce]

And you just hump the leg of unyielding enemies presumably

[deft stump]

Can't be as bad as Inferno into a beekeeper build.

[weary idol]

Assail is just kinda like that sometimes because it relies on crits and weakspot hits to do damage

[deft stump]

And Deimos.

[uncut sinew]

obscurus does p decent dmg without the unyielding

[uncut sinew]

havoc and auric

[weary idol]

But its tracking is also unbelievably fucking stupid and LOVES to bang into walls and take low curves

[wind spruce]

Ok but hear me out... just pick which weapon you're going to focus crushers with and then focus the other one on something else

[zealous wing]

which havocs

[uncut sinew]

i switch between having carapace and unyielding on obscurussy, both do well

[uncut sinew]

40's

[oak breach]

Obscurus has an okay horde combo too, though, so it's not all bad.

[weary idol]

no warp splitting

[oak breach]

Illisi might be better with EK tho

[weary idol]

automatically a bad EP assail build

commit to the bit or don't do it at all

wait am I sleep deprived

[wind spruce]

You lose your glasses?

Hahah

[weary idol]

es

yes

yes I am

[uncut sinew]

lmao that's what i thought

[wind spruce]

Me too

[weary idol]

still though I'm watching you

[wind spruce]

Can barely see

[uncut sinew]

got me double checking the name lol

[uncut sinew]

tune in to my facebook live streams of hourly darktide

[weary idol]

no thanks I'd rather not sign up to bot farm industries

[uncut sinew]

but facebook games are goated

[weary idol]

I'm pretty sure I'd have more fun creating a game using the leaves and sticks in my front yard than any of those

[uncut sinew]

for horde clear, yes, but i love the fact that i can use a force sword without having to use the actual force part of it

nice combos on it too

[uncut sinew]

anywhos, had this havoc 35 games last night, trauma vent with assail went hard

[twilit veldt]

god damn do i love melee psyker

press E, press LMB, win

but playing with scryiers gaze has made bubble psyker kinda boring

[plucky flax]

What's e?

[twilit veldt]

scryiers

[zealous wing]

so F for everyone else

[wraith sphinx]

mapping ult to e

kinda psychotic

[zealous wing]

i worry what their interact button is

[deft stump]

Might just be side button.

[zealous wing]

why not make the ult a side button then

i have weapon special as a side button

[marble crater]

Why not let people use the buttons and keys they want

[wraith sphinx]

because that's heresy

[deft stump]

You have 2 side button. Might be interact and special or so.

[zealous wing]

because its more fun to tease people with weirder configurations than you

[strong gulch]

F is interact for me. 🫡

[zealous wing]

actually i have 12 side buttons

[twilit veldt]

interact is F, ult is E

ive used F as an interact key for over 2 decades, its not changin' now

[zealous wing]

valid, was worried it was gonna be like, X or some shit ngl

[strong gulch]

My blitz is MM scroll down.

[zealous wing]

my blitz is c

[twilit veldt]

now to try out a gunker with inf lasgun

[zealous wing]

have you tried reconlas

if not, if you dont like inf las, try recon

[twilit veldt]

ofc, but the ammo is bit too low for my liking

[zealous wing]

1000 bullets isnt enough?

[twilit veldt]

so im testing out the fast firing inf lasgun

[twilit veldt]

not when youre playing with 3 random roombas

[strong gulch]

laspsitol doesn't have a ton of bullets. Do you mean that one?

[zealous wing]

gunker is 90% melee anyway

[deft stump]

70%, 20% Assail spam.

[zealous wing]

valid, ill take the correction

[twilit veldt]

im trying out a kin flayer inf lasgun gunker, gonna see how well itll go

plus the inf lasgun headtaker is 20% on weakspot instead of the 5% on recon

and it still fires pretty fast enough to apply the stacks

i also wanna try seeing how well a bubble version of this will be instead of scriers

[wraith sphinx]

bubble is pretty singular in its utility

you can predict how will it go

[quartz barn]

Headtaker is alright, but when i used it to max out the mastery i just found myself hipfiring all the time

[twilit veldt]

thats not what i meant

[quartz barn]

Because you usually find yourself in too close a range to properly use it

Dmg is solid however

[twilit veldt]

as in how well the bubble will perform in the stead of scriers since the headtaker will make crits happen one way or another

anf the bubble does add a bit more utility for the team as a whole

[quartz barn]

Ye headtaker should do enough damage on its own

[twilit veldt]

i got the autofire mod which helps in not getting carpal tunnel, so hipfiring it does turn it into a pretty solid choice

[quartz barn]

No i meant that its supposed to be a scout

But i used it more for close range engagements rather than long range

[twilit veldt]

i mean, ive used the recon lasgun for ages. I know its good and i know it performs well, i just want to see how well inf lasgun performs

[quartz barn]

Because long range is just way rarer in dt

[twilit veldt]

im well aware of recon lasgun gunker

[strong gulch]

I think what Nut is trying to say that inf lasgun is meant to be used at longer ranger like a sniper.

It has damage falloff on closer targets.

[twilit veldt]

ah yea, but eh

[tulip kettle]

inf lasgun also has stupid aimpunch recoil nonsense

the bolts of light have mass apparently

[strong gulch]

Laser too heavy.

[weary jewel]

Is it possible to die from Just a Dream? cause I blew up and that was the only thing that was increasing my peril at the time.

[zealous wing]

no

it locks you at 97

[pure plinth]

were you charging a staff or

[weary jewel]

nope, had my dueling sword out.

[zealous wing]

hell, even if youre at 100 if you take dmg it pulls you to 97

did you parry

[weary jewel]

yes, but I don't have the one that increases from blocking.

[zealous wing]

DS parry causes peril for psyker

[pure plinth]

do you have kinetic flayer?

[weary jewel]

ah

[pure plinth]

oh

[young cliff]

That always drove me crazy, Why that laser pointer has more recoil than the Helbores?

[zealous wing]

KF doesnt cause peril

[marble crater]

and doesn't work at critical peril

[weary jewel]

I did just parry when I got that high, so apparently I can die from that.

[zealous wing]

yup

melk is trying to scam me now

[jovial juniper]

Yes you can

[strong gulch]

the state of my melks rn

[jovial juniper]

Psyker Dueling Sword parry builds peril

[zealous wing]

oof

[jovial juniper]

For a greater damage on the parry

Fatshark just forgot to use the critical peril = turn off on it

💀

[strong gulch]

being able to explode from it is a bug?

[zealous wing]

you can explode from laspistol push though right?

[jovial juniper]

Most likely an oversight

[strong gulch]

don't remember

but even if it can, that's laspistol

[jovial juniper]

The alternative is that they didn't want infinite parry dueling sword and made that just to spite players

[zealous wing]

but alas, other classes can inf parry

[weary jewel]

is there any sort of downside to spamming it for those classes even?

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/tinytim-tim-poor-child-boy-gif-7331148

[zealous wing]

have you done all your weeklies already?

they just reset so i imagine not

[strong gulch]

after reset no

[oak breach]

Using Warp Unbound just to parry with the DS more

[zealous wing]

[solid pond]

weapon swap on LMB

[wraith sphinx]

Still better than mark target on lmb

mfw I have to use a mod purely because of asshats like that

[strong gulch]

real asian robot

[zealous wing]

the fucking spam pings 😭

the worst

every time they look at something it tags

[wraith sphinx]

I sometimes spam "go there" but at least those are silent

[zealous wing]

most useless case i saw was an arby using a mod to spam targets, so they look at this monstrosity and the ping its just fucking going and going, then they get mosh-pitted by some other shit and this poor dog had no idea what to be doing

but at least we knew where the arby was i guess... in deep shit

[royal totem]

Lmao.

Ugh need to try havoc 23 afain tonight

[thorn cedar]

I have to share this with other human beings

https://youtu.be/1B5GisOCsSc?si=IHNK5ZXDGQXC7rNF

This is the weirdest, most racially charged chip commercial I have ever seen.

Tell me it isn't just me.

Somehow that dude says 'yo' back with a hard R, it's fucking crazy

[tulip kettle]

theyre from the north

[thorn cedar]

They even hit the fucken zoom when he says it

I'm losing my fucking miiind

[strong gulch]

Not just you. Wtf

I hope they proudly claim to be genetically altered. That'd add to it.

modified
that's the word

[weary crane]

I do

Unfortunately ds can't constantly parry like dclaw

[pale prairie]

Huh right there are Canadian leagues other than hockey

[thorn cedar]

yea toronto raptors (basket ball) and blue jays (baseball) are pretty solid teams

i am not a sports dude tohugh

[pale prairie]

I admire the fact they play in bad weather and with much lower budgets than US

[strong gulch]

More Cats Organized Neatly puzzles. nice

[gray juniper]

I made some headway in helldivers @strong gulch top difficulty bugs missions are pretty bananas

[ripe obsidian]

Insects are not bananas

Sorry, bananas

[wraith sphinx]

They are pretty zoinks scoob

[iron flame]

Critical peril is how high ?

[long saddle]

100%

[iron flame]

i find Diff 10 bug mission to be much easier than Auric tbh

[ripe obsidian]

97%

Not 100%

[iron flame]

ohhh

[nocturne dust]

Thanks Fatshark

[long saddle]

close enough

[nocturne dust]

My fingers are fat and my phone is tiny

[ripe obsidian]

My fingers are clumsy

[long saddle]

it is nice for stuff like warpslashes with FGS at least

[tulip kettle]

it makes sense that its just below 100% tbh

because of interactions with other talents like KF and JaD

[nocturne dust]

not really?

[ripe obsidian]

JaD still kills me. :D

[nocturne dust]

They could just... set the bar lower for those nodes It doesn't need to be "the point at which you will immediately explode", and that's irrelevant anyway whether it's 97% or 100%

You explode either way

[strong gulch]

Nice. I'm a helldive 6 casual. I also haven't played the new stuff. Already better than me. 🫡

[tulip kettle]

i used JaD in one game where i was trying DS again... i did indeed explode

and if it was 100% it would proc after a single tick of passive quelling which im sure would be fucky, thats what i mean

[nocturne dust]

I mean you have to get hit

so not that weird

[ripe obsidian]

The issue is less getting hit and more things like rotten armor tox gas or bombers or any sort of AoE

That lock you out of casting until you can relocate and quell

[wraith sphinx]

New stuff?

[strong gulch]

From a couple weeks ago. If you played within the last month, Nothing new.

[ripe obsidian]

My deaths to JaD are half from not reacting quickly enough to stop my RMB cast and half from being unable to find space to quell after JaD knocked me too high

[wraith sphinx]

Oh the cave stuff

[strong gulch]

cave and the enemies that came with it

[ripe obsidian]

Caves and bugs? Sounds like a good place to mine

[strong gulch]

I haven't seen anything and I'm avoiding stuff about it until I play again.

[pale prairie]

But would you have died from the damage that got blocked?

[pale prairie]

Oh it’s great

[pale prairie]

Good they had to uuuuh pull back some stuff to rebalance so half the content is being reworked

[nocturne dust]

that happens anyway tho

Like, it's still critical peril

This is an issue with current JaD

[strong gulch]

My brain hasn't adapted to JaD still. Maybe I need to just just constantly run it or something.

Unrelated.

I just Jurassic Park on and my cat is completely invested.

[wraith sphinx]

I will never use it with a staff build

Gun, tho? Right on.

[ripe obsidian]

No, probably not

And I ended up taking more damage and dying because I couldn't RMB with trauma to make space

[ripe obsidian]

I would not have hit critical peril if not for JaD, so it wasn't going to happen anyway

[pale prairie]

I haven’t exploded yet to it BUT it is a little annoying to keep a hawks eye on peril management

[pale prairie]

Okay yeah with trauma and EK it would be super irritating

[ripe obsidian]

I'm taking it off my builds. It's nice when you have space to quell, but it's frustrating when you don't

[pale prairie]

Hey you still using warp ghost with inferno?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

I see no particular reason not to

My current inferno build

I have also had to re-evaluate my opinion of PotS for Trauma. I was looking at the wrong ADMs. So Trauma has 80% ADMs on Flak and Carapace, which means PotS is likely worth picking, at least on Rotten Armor, if you keep your peril high.

Gonna update my builds in the guide today

[long saddle]

on all trauma builds?

[ripe obsidian]

Ehhhh

Not on Rending Shockwave imo

More likely on Blazing

[long saddle]

I mostly do fire on SG build so

[ripe obsidian]

I'm gonna poke at builds to see what I can see

Rending Shockwave already puts things to 100% ADMs in a single hit, so the full benefit from PotS would only be for the first attack

For Blazing Spirit, it would have more consistent benefit

[long saddle]

yeah I try to do fullpowered blasts as well

[ripe obsidian]

And would boost your Soulblaze a small amount on crushers. Not enough to be really meaningful, but some

[pale prairie]

Okay now that’s interesting

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I mixed up the P4 staff with P1

[plucky flax]

Contaminated + rot riser win on like the 3rd try.

Teammates were op

[long saddle]

and ye I'm always at high peril with trauma

[ripe obsidian]

P4 is Voidstrike, P1 is Voidblast

[nocturne dust]

You misunderstand.

[ripe obsidian]

I did rot + stims consignment yard last night. Was not easy

[plucky flax]

The zealot was really good at rushing ahead and book.

[pale prairie]

Rot is when they make the pools right?

[long saddle]

riser is really satisfying to win on H40

[plucky flax]

My kind of zealot.

[nocturne dust]

I am proposing a change to make critical peril only 100% (and not 97%) to simplify things. This includes JaD pushing to 100%. Functionally for JaD, nothing has changed.

[plucky flax]

Tbf I have him on my fl and he randomly joins me so we're sort of in sync.

[pale prairie]

I am so proud of you having actual friends you never talk to

[plucky flax]

I only took 13hp damage I felt so safe.

True the whole team was using mic apart from me.

Rare team com moment.

[ripe obsidian]

Rot is loads of waves of crushers/maulers/ragers that take massively reduced ranged damage and leave behind pox gas clouds

[pale prairie]

Whoa you didn’t flame

[pale prairie]

Right fart armor

[ripe obsidian]

I don't see any particular reason not to do this.

[pale prairie]

Contaminated is the pools then

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. The trickle waves of crushers can get overwhelming

[pale prairie]

But I like my peril dropping to 97 from 100. Means I can warp slash or do a assail

[plucky flax]

Trickle? More like 20 crushers out of nowhere.

[weary crane]

Spawning 5 metres away

[pale prairie]

They just are so fucking tanky now

[ripe obsidian]

I think the code term is trickle

But yes, a ton of crushers coming around the corner and body blocking you

[ripe obsidian]

Pair with stims for double HP or 80% DR or whatever else

H40 right now is mostly a DPS check. Kinda sucks.

[plucky flax]

Like this lmao I nope out of that room pretty fast

[ripe obsidian]

Is Ascension Riser a hard map? It feels hard to me.

[pale prairie]

I mean havoc 40 is like 50% longer now

[plucky flax]

Yeah mid event + getting the lift right after is hard.

Long way to go between medicae station.

[long saddle]

yeah mid event is punishing on most difficulties tbh

since it's so open

[nocturne dust]

You can still do that anyway, just don't get hit

[pale prairie]

I am starting to see the joys of knife psyker

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

And riser always have sooooo many shooters.

[ripe obsidian]

The room right after the mid event with a billion gunners shooting across the gap is brutal

[plucky flax]

It's especially good on purg for quick repositioning.

[pale prairie]

Yeah but it means take one toughness hit and I quelled enough not to explode. Convenient and I don’t have to even do anything

[plucky flax]

Since you're not concern about shrieking at 84+ as much.

[nocturne dust]

JaD doesn't quell? wat?

[pale prairie]

Yeah I have it on my purge staff build. Took some getting used to cause it plays very differently from FGS and the other force swords

[long saddle]

enclavum baross is one of the few with a more punishing mid event

[pale prairie]

If you are at 100% peril and take a hit it brings you down to 97%

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

This is because for whatever reason my team never do objective. Me psyker with noodle arms gotta run and carry the battery.

[pale prairie]

It’s okay only pros know this move

[ripe obsidian]

Chasm Station mid event can suck if you can't make space to do the hacking event.

[pale prairie]

[long saddle]

yeah I'm usually the one to carry those things solo while people fuck around up top on auric maelstrom

[plucky flax]

I feel like ds4 thrust is stonking now because of how tanky elites are.

I see a lot of zealot and vet running it.

[nocturne dust]

It's suicidal so no

[long saddle]

chasm has safer places to back up to and some nice chokepoints

[pale prairie]

Haven’t blown up! In fact it’s saved me several times

[long saddle]

but ye it can be real bad at hacking area

[nocturne dust]

Sus

Very sus

[pale prairie]

Sounds pretty arbetes

[nocturne dust]

I just don't believe that. Ignoring ability, lag exists and the game loves to be jank.

[long saddle]

I have begun the overload animation and JaD brings me down to 97 just to spite me

[ripe obsidian]

Most of my Chasm runs that fail end up dying in the room right before the mid event

[long saddle]

the elevator shaft? ye idk why people are so prone to do dumb shit there

[pale prairie]

Okay? You don’t have to believe it I guess?

I am pretty sure it’s unintended code stuff with them putting this ability in

[plucky flax]

Really? I feel like that room is a really good place to fight.

A big square to kite around.

[ripe obsidian]

People scatter and die

[pale prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1419990215031914637/image.png?ex=68ee2271&is=68ecd0f1&hm=ffb82783f29150cdc43460f1200fdfe6a1cec47fbbc1b3ab6bc446daa142d729&

[royal totem]

I can safely say i hate dentists now

[plucky flax]

Everybody does.

[royal totem]

I had to get a deep cleaning today and ultra painful

[strong gulch]

Valid. I want to use it staff. So I'll probably just keep cycling through "Yay JaD time!!" and "I think JaD is making me sad."

[pale prairie]

Yeah I saw an inferno knife psyker run to a whole different room when the rot armor showed up

[ripe obsidian]

JaD is very strong. But it can also be quite punishing. I am not good enough at positioning/repositioning to make JaD worth it for me. At least right now.

[pale prairie]

I think it’s super good and better on meleeker. With staff though it does take extra vigilance

[ripe obsidian]

Positioning is probably my weakest point

[strong gulch]

That hawk part. I already forget peril is a thing. My wee brains just clock out too much it seems. 😭

[thorn cedar]

You fools just can't accept the truth. The shape of the puzzle piece you are missing is so clear if you simply... motion your mind.

[pale prairie]

It’s okay the rest of your play is very good

[strong gulch]

Very much that. Multiple flavors of mental load.

[thorn cedar]

ow a brick

[pale prairie]

Man imagine needing a talent to motion your mind instead of just….moving

[long saddle]

just do the quell dash shuffle to move forwards

[strong gulch]

Oh man. This is reminding me to get on my stationary bike. Move but go nowhere.

[nocturne dust]

I'm saying I don't believe you never explode from a tactic like that

[plucky flax]

Bloody gum?

[pale prairie]

It’s mostly meleeker but okay bud!

[nocturne dust]

Ew

Go back to Zealot, smh my head

[pale prairie]

You think I ever played anything but psyker?

https://tenor.com/view/kk-gif-15803140109120205266

[nocturne dust]

That would explain why you're a fake Zealot

[pale prairie]

Zealots wish they had this power

[long saddle]

consistent power*

[nocturne dust]

poor boy, replicating other classes on Psyker because you don't know how to switch classes

[long saddle]

compared to shroudfield hammer bonks

[nocturne dust]

They do tho

[pale prairie]

Why would I switch to a less good class?

[nocturne dust]

Book is pretty consistent

[pale prairie]

Go back to zealot ew

Smh

[nocturne dust]

You already did by playing meleeker

[long saddle]

bonks, not book

[weary idol]

buh huh

[nocturne dust]

You hate me because I tell the truth

[pale prairie]

Damn I wish I could do zealot

So much zealot damage

Like 400k I think

[nocturne dust]

Have you tried playing with a good zealot

Also also

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[nocturne dust]

Scoreboard numbers chaser spotted

[weary idol]

if those existed they'd be playing psyker or veteran for better numbers

[pale prairie]

Gatekeeper spotted

[nocturne dust]

Not true, some do it for the love of the God Emperor

[long saddle]

you can have fun with a class even if you're not hitting top numbers all the time

[pale prairie]

Ew zealot

Smh

[nocturne dust]

I'm gatekeeping your statistics, yes

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-muppets-meme-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-16984538577250620315

[nocturne dust]

[pale prairie]

Nah you’re gatekeeping psyker

[nocturne dust]

True

[pale prairie]

Sadge

[nocturne dust]

Only staffker is a real psyker

Any other psyker is just a veteran/zealot in disguise

[pale prairie]

Makes sense the zealot main needs to shrimplest playstyle

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, that's why you play meleeker

[long saddle]

idk, I have a psyker melee build that's just about hitting 100% peril and shrieking it every 10 seconds

[royal totem]

yeah i'm practically a vampire now

[pale prairie]

More involved then inferno shriek RMB pump fall asleep rotation

[pale prairie]

Oh nice shriek on melee that’s unique

[plucky flax]

1 mil? Must be pro

[nocturne dust]

Yes, clicking LMB at regular intervals very complex, you must be very proud

[long saddle]

it was my crystalline will 5 wounds builds before

[pale prairie]

Mmmmmm RMB and F I am more proud of you actually

[long saddle]

but it was too mid and I just switched it to a pure shriek build instead

just spam deimos special a bunch

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-flaming-gif-18554808

[acoustic jacinth]

preach, there's no way you don't give the funny wizard a funny staff

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-pondering-my-orb-my-orb-orb-pondering-my-pondering-my-orb-orb-gif-24060364

[long saddle]

staff + FGS makes you real slow tho

gotta switch it up a bit

[nocturne dust]

force knife wheeeeeeen

[pale prairie]

Zealot main confirmed

[strong gulch]

Right? We've been asking for so long.

[pale prairie]

Get yo shroudfield ass outta here

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[nocturne dust]

Incorrect

[pale prairie]

How would it work though

[nocturne dust]

You use knife to stab heretics, I use knife to reposition for more staffing, we are not the same

[pale prairie]

Pffffffff I only use knife when I am tired and my hands are broken so I need to play staffker

Also

Also

https://tenor.com/view/red89z-gif-22986425

[strong gulch]

IDK. Many options. Could have something like flame dagger in VT2 as the least creative option.

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm true

Would be nice to have an actual soulblaze melee blessing that doesn’t suck

[nocturne dust]

See? You are the real Zealot main.

[nocturne dust]

You should break your hands more often

[pale prairie]

Just cause something moves fast doesn’t make it a zealot

[nocturne dust]

If it walks like a Zealot...

[pale prairie]

Zealot walks like me wait no he doesn’t cause I zoom

[nocturne dust]

Zealot has better speed most of the match

[pale prairie]

I regularly smash them cause agent and Karien threatened me

[nocturne dust]

Speedkers hate to hear it, but it's true

[pale prairie]

Yeah it’s true

But I’ll take the damage we have in exchange

[nocturne dust]

Rather have a Zealot tbh

I'm the psyker, I do the damage. I just need an attack dog to stand in the way

[royal totem]

i'll stand in the way for you. i'll just knife things and pray

[pale prairie]

Meleeker can do that…..

Also also

Doesn’t steal your soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

Yeah... almost like... it's a... zealot

[nocturne dust]

Does if they have PC

[royal totem]

i'll read everybody bedtime stories

[pale prairie]

Pffffff zealot wishes

[pale prairie]

I don’t

[white valley]

Doesn't zealot hilariously have less dps than meleeker atm?

[pale prairie]

Exactly

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-this-guy-silvio-dante-vito-vito-spatafore-gif-24638091

[white valley]

FGS kills Crushers faster than Relic Blade

[pale prairie]

SG and DD stacks

Mmmmm

[white valley]

Zealot's in a bit of an identity crisis atm

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but a Zealot literally cannot die

[white valley]

Hey guys I'm the speedy melee class except all of the other 4 classes can spec into melee and do just as well as much damage as me

[nocturne dust]

Sooooo

Zealot is better for my purposes of having a wall

[white valley]

Ogryn and Arbitrator can't either

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's rough man I tried relic blade chastise spam too.

[royal totem]

but zealot can read bedtime stories

[plucky flax]

Maybe only martyrdom relic is decent but I doubt it does anywhere near as much as fgs.

[white valley]

I like relic blade with Chorus, lets you cool it down

[plucky flax]

Unless the player is really good.

I used to be good at zealot now I am washed.

[nocturne dust]

Really hard to compete with infinite cleave

[white valley]

Martyrdom is the way to go with relic blade for sure

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

I take martyrdom and then spend most of the match at max health

[plucky flax]

That's not how you do it.

[nocturne dust]

Actually, it is how I do it.

[acoustic jacinth]

never liked marty much tbh, neither chorus and shroudfield. mostly run fotf and piety on most loadouts minus stuff like rb which could use the att speed so IJ and fotf it is

[white valley]

It does feel kinda ass that to play martyrdom properly you gotta eat shit when the match begins

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/aha-shout-scream-point-gif-727062754941698905

[nocturne dust]

Wat

[prime elk]

Just play IJ at that point lol

[nocturne dust]

Yes I play other classes

I play Arbie and Oggie too

Never heard of a veteran

[pale prairie]

Ooooof arbie

https://tenor.com/view/so-sad-scream-sad-tears-crying-gif-1210660830619010144

[nocturne dust]

Must be sad locking yourself to a specific part of content and making it part of your identity

[iron flame]

I want to try Veteran but they don't make bazillion toughness per hour so i feel like i am still very glass cannon. Kinda like psyker pre-rework

[pale prairie]

You mean like saying staffker is the only psyker?

Damn he’s right

[nocturne dust]

I just don't like guns

[nocturne dust]

No, I play meleeker

[pale prairie]

points at arbie, zealot, ogryn

[nocturne dust]

I just acknowledge I'm playing Zealot in disguise

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-stickmin-the-henry-stickmin-collection-distraction-gif-11858462091493781980

[nocturne dust]

I only ever run guns insofar as they are a device to shoot trappers

[pale prairie]

Lmao with how high special spawns are now you must hate how often you are doing that

[iron flame]

yea feels like director is bugged or something

i even see like 8 snipers once in damnation

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's rough. Squishiest class by far. Pre patch it used to be vet and psyker squishy now it's just vet.

[nocturne dust]

Yes, very

I hate that they made auric even more of a "you have to be on (or at least semi-on) all the time" mode like Havoc

Give me my breathers 😭

[pale prairie]

Gotta get more people on that havoc on ramp

Need to pump those spreadsheet numbers

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[iron flame]

that is why I only mostly play zealot and arbites pre psyker reworked. Tried it so many times I kept dying with psyker in damnation or higher

[solid pond]

if its not being ironic

im sorry

that must be hard on you

[fiery stratus]

Block more, push more

Use better positioning and don't place yourself in the middle of a horde, use chokepoints like doorways

[white valley]

Play VT2 in Cataclysm and suddenly any class in DT is tanky

[strong gulch]

[royal totem]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-spiderman-far-from-home-everywhere-i-go-i-see-his-face-i-see-his-face-everywhere-i-go-gif-22706003

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-washed-my-goat-washed-lightning-mcqueen-mcqueen-gif-13084113942314445304

[strong gulch]

Dale Earnheart? (spelling?)

[plucky flax]

Don't cry bby I am still decent at psyker.

The best class btw.

[radiant frigate]

diagnosis: lack of skill issue

[plucky flax]

Psyker is a 10 and all others are below 7.

[radiant frigate]

i have no idea

[plucky flax]

Just need another psyker class.

[radiant frigate]

eldar psyker when

(a new and different psyker that is more insane/snarky and also squishier and higher damage)

[plucky flax]

Farseer?

See the future and shit

[strong gulch]

Oh wait. Dale is car #3. I forget 95.

I was raised in the US midwest and it's showing.

[iron flame]

Hmm noob question, playing FGS. Is it worth using the GS sword wave even if the bar is not that full ? Like does it have good stagger at low bar ?

[plucky flax]

What's your ability?

Damn youtube randomly recommend me japanese careless whisper.

[humble skiff]

psyker is great now after the rework, if they nerf something i hope it will only be psykinetic's aura from 3 seconds to 1 second, that way it still scales with difficulty and skill like it used to

[humble skiff]

you can use it on 0% for a slight stagger to gunners, genuinely useful to stop them from shooting giving you a few seconds to close the distance and just stab them to death

[pale prairie]

Nah that’s lightning McQueen

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-977282450591946462

[strong gulch]

I never watched cars.

[pale prairie]

Low bar can stagger. Filled first bar can kill most trash enemies. 2 bars full kills some elites.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cars-disney-pixar-mater-tow-mater-gif-15998093348155686896

[pale prairie]

Partial fills don’t count at all

[plucky flax]

It's an alright watch.

Nothing special.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-403140411062093680

[plucky flax]

Mator get really annoying in cars 2 though

[pale prairie]

Oh for sure

[nocturne dust]

Which one is the spy one

[pale prairie]

I just like the complete logic ridiculousness of a world of cars

[pale prairie]

Is that 3?

[plucky flax]

Cars 1 got the hardest scene though.

[pale prairie]

I can’t remember

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/cars-tuner-movie-gangster-highway-gif-24904097

[nocturne dust]

Looked it up, Cars 2 is the spy one

Yeah, Mater is annoying in that one

[pale prairie]

Ooof

[nocturne dust]

I think it's also the worst of the bunch

[pale prairie]

It was a shaky premise that really only lasts a single movie lmao

[upbeat kestrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-QFv7jN3K0 from the best cars short tokyo mater

[gray juniper]

Shit I am too. Difficulty 6 is the fun stuff on any faction including bugs. Bugs on 8-10 are scary. Real starship troopers “you’re not gonna make it” vibe

These defend the city missions are horrendous like a movie

[austere warren]

Cars 2 is fucked up lol

Wasn't ready for a certain scene to happen

[gray juniper]

Lmao where did that come from

[austere warren]

Convo higher up brought up cars 2

[gray juniper]

What happened in cars 2?

[austere warren]

And i still got free time for at least another hour before I gotta head out and get to work for a bit.

[austere warren]

So it's an offbeat spy thriller centered around lemon cars basically conspiring to fuck over high performance car people for whatever the reason was I forgot. I think it had something to do with unspoken shit wrapped up in oil industry shit.

Basically car interpol gets involved and it's a whole thing. Forgot who it was but eventually either a henchmen that pissed off the villains, exposed spy or something gets um

Executed via using a spiked fuel and forced to drive themselves to a fiery death while trapped on like a car treadmill thing.

Like they scream fr

Some kid in the theater almost cried 😭 lmao

[gray juniper]

Lmao omg why is Disney so deranged?

Pixar is the place Disney people go where they act up

[austere warren]

I mean fwiw kid's films can be dark as hell but slanted to make it less intense for kids. It was just like the context that had me blinking a bit

That was some Daniel Craig 007 torture scene equivalent lol

[marble crater]

https://youtu.be/Y8uQyTEtCMM

Reminds me of this

[austere warren]

It was edited in a way where the viewer doesn't see all of it but it was just "damn. They overheated this dude to death holy shit o_o"

But yk

Child suspension of belief works differently than an adult

[pale prairie]

he went to a uh farm upstate

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Eph7XkJKnfM?si=-SgOnvy9QI62YMq5

[weary crane]

Not his fault rashuns were cut

[real merlin]

force greatsword: How to guarantee the thrust attack after a push?

[zealous wing]

which mark

[real merlin]

messing with mk VIII right now.

What's the 'meta' mk, while I'm on the subject

[zealous wing]

there isnt a meta one, its pure preference, mostly

[thorn cedar]

ITS THE SIX

ILL FIGHT EVERYONE

[zealous wing]

true though

6 is just, better for all around stuff

but the other mark works too if you do like it more

[thorn cedar]

neither are bad thats for sure

[zealous wing]

for mark six, stab is accessed by light attack heavy

the other mark would need the flowchart

[prime elk]

Wdym VIII is super simple lol

PA, which you’re prob doing already

Then H H

[zealous wing]

need the flowchart as in, i have no fucking idea

mark 6 is superior in vibes

[prime elk]

Both FGS have braindead easy combos

[zealous wing]

part of me actually wants to try leveling a psyker purely based on vibes (no hud)

[thorn cedar]

yeesh the weapon grind in bf6 really is balls

i unlocked a new smg that has good ttk but only 15 rounds in the mag makes it borderline unusable. that's okay, i can just attach a larger magazine to it ... oh that only unlocks at weapon level 35.

ive been playing for over twenty hours with just the MP5 and it's only at weapon level 30.

fucken whuh

[real merlin]

it was a timing issue on my part. If I don't bring the heavy out at the right time after push, it's a sweep from right. Otherwise it's reliably a stab

[prime elk]

Yeah if chained correctly the heavy after PA is always a stab

[ripe obsidian]

Hi

[plucky flax]

All the pros I know use mk6 fgs.

[pale prairie]

so like 3 people?

[plucky flax]

Maybe 3.5

Karien is extra wide and counts for 1.5

(jk I don't think she even use fgs)

[pale prairie]

better to protect our delicate asses

[tulip kettle]

karien not use knoife challenge : impossible

[plucky flax]

In fact she never plays psyker so.

[pale prairie]

I thought she was a deimos stan

like super defensive deimos

[plucky flax]

It would be my greastest honour to have karien carry me on psyker so I can learn.

But she said psykers noob class only that agentnoob and syllonoob play it.

Real pro like her play arby and carry harder.

[zealous wing]

||actually she mains vet||

[plucky flax]

She also never plays vet in havoc.

Maybe it's too easy for her with throwing kraks around.

In rot armour you can spam kraks and easily do 600k+ blitz damage.

Kind of broken.

[rough trail]

What keystones are recommended for smite duelling sword and voidblast equinox 3 build

[thorn cedar]

omg he's here he's really here omg dont stare

[plucky flax]

I'd probably go with warp charges for more creeping flames spam.

What ability are you using?

[rough trail]

Blitz?

[plucky flax]

Blitz is your smite.

Ability is your F key.

[rough trail]

Oh yeah

Console

Scriers gaze

[plucky flax]

I am not sure. If you use smite a lot can go EP smite I guess.

[strong gulch]

smite and VB (voidblast) are not recommended together

[plucky flax]

If not I'd still go warp charges.

[rough trail]

Isk this psyker rework fked me up

Smite helps when theres too much around

I dont use brainpop

Too slow

Smite stuns warpstick cleans up

[plucky flax]

Can go keystoneless and take all the toughness gen/damage resist.

[rough trail]

True

Im running psyonics for keystone

[strong gulch]

If you are wanting to smite a lot, ability up a lot, etc, are better questions to help us tool your build for you.

BB is mostly ran for KF.

[rough trail]

Im wanting more damage

My psyker feels ehh compared to how it was before

[strong gulch]

KF VB with shriek then

[rough trail]

Why not scriers

Inuse it when shit gets bad and i need that boost

Not arguing just asking why/why not

[strong gulch]

Because of the way SB snowballs and how shriek staggers and clears a room of trash.

There are builds in the pins too.

[real merlin]

Do you know why they prefer it? mk VIII is a little more intuitive for me

[rough trail]

Ill chevk that

[real merlin]

easier shred stacking with the light sweeps too

[pale prairie]

the heavy combo is easier for killing carapace

slightly faster

[plucky flax]

More single target damage and with good micro/cheat mod it has same horde clear

[real merlin]

what's the horde clear combo on the VI?

[plucky flax]

Swap to fgs then light - light repeat

Doing it manually is pretty intensive

Easiest one is light x3 then block cancel repeat

[real merlin]

block cancel seems to work

[plucky flax]

Yeah but swap light light combo is really fast

[strong gulch]

If you can't do swap cancel, then do block cancel light light.

A little slower, but good.

[marble crater]

Or just play mark 8

[plucky flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1363438686225698826/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.04.20_-_09.57.47.03.mp4?ex=68ee10ba&is=68ecbf3a&hm=da1b1bbaed850c120f60b76ddb8b0e84afdad5ad87bb035d4d31adfecb016d18&

[strong gulch]

You sould still block cancel on FGS 8.

[marble crater]

I don't

[plucky flax]

Or just play mk8 but mk6 is better if you know what you're doing

[marble crater]

Just spam light attacks all day

[plucky flax]

Tru

[strong gulch]

Pick whichever you want or makes the most sense to you.

[ripe obsidian]

I have builds in the pinned guide

[rough trail]

Im doing it rn thanks

What is -80% passive quell

It quells 80% faster by itsself??

[lone ravine]

no

[rough trail]

Oh

[lone ravine]

when you dont cast and it naturally starts to decay

its 80% slower

[rough trail]

80% slower

Ok nvm

[strong gulch]

Passive tho.

Not actively doing it

[lone ravine]

its so you keep your bonuses based on peril % for longer

[strong gulch]

With staff or quelling talents. (active)

Just standing there and peril decays because you're doing nothing. (passive)

[iron flame]

Just a dream had made me go down a few times but also saved my ass a few times. Feels like I should keep it

[lone ravine]

just a dream is weird

its made me blow myself up more than i think its helped me though

[iron flame]

Accidently blow up myself because I go critical from a wild stray hit when going for a super risky warp slice

[plucky flax]

Just a dream scammed me and made me die die.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1426153297969942649/Desktop_2025.10.10_-_11.23.47.03.mp4?ex=68ee24c2&is=68ecd342&hm=3e047516a56c69b795171c1cc8cc5a3d7596ceab1942a89992a5ff13aa6f867b&

[lone ravine]

yea i wish it applied to just health dmg

[iron flame]

It does save my ass from a few of the mauler overhead i think 💀

[plucky flax]

Where downstate?

[strong gulch]

Peril going back down to 97 while you die too.

[plucky flax]

Just normal psyker behaviour.

[iron flame]

Because i think i got hit by an overhead from behind and like survived

I was so thankful that I was 0 peril because I was weaving around horde and suddenly my hp just poofed to near dead, look behind me and it is a mauler

[zealous wing]

its definitely better on a gunker/meleeker than a staveker

something where your main weapon isnt a peril hog

[pale prairie]

yep if you grab all the DR talents you can survive a crusher overhead now

[zealous wing]

yup

[pale prairie]

JaD applies to health damage

it is DR

not just TDR

[zealous wing]

thats what they mean i think

[lone ravine]

i wish it didnt apply to toughness

is what i meant

[pale prairie]

........thats a take

[lone ravine]

id rather not implode to a stray bullet

[zealous wing]

honestly i do approve

[lone ravine]

thatd id regen in less than a second

[zealous wing]

toughness is easy to get back, health not so much

[pale prairie]

you won't implode to the bullet you implode to casting after the bullet twice

[zealous wing]

and we already have some TDR

[iron flame]

Ohh I don't take the one beside it that gives 10% DR because i was worried that i would be sacrificing too much damage

[royal totem]

anybody want to play a game with me?

[zealous wing]

if it was only HP it protected, then a couple scrapes wont drive your peril to max

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-no-no-40k-gif-24271093

[pale prairie]

eh I just do all of them cause I am enjoying tank psyker. don't actually need them all

[plucky flax]

Not on NA server.

[royal totem]

lol i'm pretty sure i'd make you fail whatever you play and i don't wanna do that to you lmao

[plucky flax]

Tru I am not that gud

[zealous wing]

agent barely clinging to the wins

[royal totem]

the server crashes whenever i play 😛

[zealous wing]

do you host in NA?

[royal totem]

literally was standing in the morningstar with no mods and i just crashed

[royal totem]

yeah. i think i'm defaulted to NA though

[zealous wing]

more evidence for my theory

[plucky flax]

Hrm reading up a reddit thread abou auric being hard. It feels the same?

Only havoc is hard because of extra modifiers.

[zealous wing]

my theory is, its an NA server issue, i havent had that happen on EU, with the few exceptions after the mission is over

or memory leak, but i think that was either artificial latency, or display ping mods causing that

[plucky flax]

Auric doesn't have rot armour and stim.

[royal totem]

auric feels the same.

@zealous wing have havoc been crashing for you?

[iron flame]

What is finesse anyway ? I am reading this guide and it said I should take it the blessing that increase it on dodge for on FGS

[zealous wing]

nope, only havoc crashes ive had was once before we queued the mission (on NA east), and once mid mission it was on EU, but the other three were NA east, and i was the only one still there with 3 bots

[royal totem]

oh so you haven't had entire team kicked out of mission

[ripe obsidian]

Finesse is crit and headshot damage

[zealous wing]

unstable power is the main FGS blessing, i believe wrath/deflector for the other one

so why do they say do finesse?

[ripe obsidian]

The dodge talent is good for FGS, but not mandatory.

[plucky flax]

Shred for the big crit

Id take shred over unstable personally

[ripe obsidian]

If I wrote finesse for Unstable Power, I will change it.

[zealous wing]

unstable power is the one thats 5% strength based on peril, stacks 5 times

[ripe obsidian]

I think it stacks 4x

[iron flame]

Eh they said it had high finesse already so extra finesse should give it even better breakpoint

It is from a YouTube video

Trying to decide what mark to use

[serene gazelle]

How do I make the crazy high damage brain burst? Mine does hardly any damage

[zealous wing]

ah 4x then, still, thats +20 strength

[zealous wing]

warp damage increasing talents

[serene gazelle]

Like which? I think I'm probably using them already

How much damage is it supposed to do

[royal totem]

what are you trying to brainburst??

[serene gazelle]

Bosses, ogryns, big things

[royal totem]

.............................

why are you trying to brainburst those?

[long saddle]

perfectly balanced

[royal totem]

those are the literal things you shouldn't be trying to brainburst if it's just from KF then it's just they have a lot of hp

[acoustic jacinth]

It's just one of those things where, with resonance and scrier's maybe we could make something work, but why. BB has much better use elsewhere, it's a case of the wrong tool for the job

[long saddle]

double shields are nice with BB spam

[acoustic jacinth]

Psyker is most certainly not lacking in damage so

[serene gazelle]

Who am I supposed to brain burst? Anything small I'll just stab instead lol

[long saddle]

since you proc the kinetic resonance

[acoustic jacinth]

Snipers, dogs, gunners, trappers, and the like. mobile elites/specialists that are dangerous. Don't forget BB locks on and does not let go

Gunner hiding behind wall? All you need is one small look

Sniper is 80m away? Just be pointing at the ping

[serene gazelle]

It's just kinda slow to cast

I thought you could like chunk bosses with it or something

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah because it's not something you use actively

It's situational and passively buffs your damage with Kinetic Flayer

You melee bosses like most cases

[royal totem]

the things far away that you wouldn't normally get. normally you get the kinetic flayer subnode so once in a while it'll just deal big damage to things like ragers/maulers but uhhhh you don't really "aim it" at ogryns etc. it's like snipers or things that are annoying and far and you wouldn't norm reach

the thing about brainburst is once you lock target you don't need to remain in line of sigh so you can just target a sniper and then dodge out of line of sight and still get it

[acoustic jacinth]

^this is why the cast time matters not

It could be double that and you're fine cause you can slide under cover or behind walls

Meanwhile you kill em

[royal totem]

you might think dodging just one sniper is nbd but like if you get a free moment it's good to anyways cuz a sniper by itself with nothing IS nbd. but a second sniper or third might join or a horde of things that makes dodging snipers much less effective. also human nature means after dodging for so long we will probably make a mistake and get hit.

[serene gazelle]

Yeah I like kf but can I make the blitz itself do more damage

[royal totem]

i mean outside of damage buffs not really. and nodes that you probably already have

[acoustic jacinth]

Kinda, you'd have to shift your build though which is not worth it

SG with warp unbound, empowered pisonics, and of course resonance

It's mostly just a screwing around build at best

[strong gulch]

If you like meme build build, especially for non-havocs, go and play it.

[serene gazelle]

So brain burst is not good boss damage?

[tulip kettle]

its ok if you build specifically for it

[marble crater]

95% of psyker builds don't have good boss damage

[tulip kettle]

but if you dont its not worth doing

mainly bb is for kinetic flayer

[full sage]

is charged strike still glitched ?

[tulip kettle]

and snipers