psyker-class

[hearty wolf]

we should just quit

[solid pond]

you should

[wraith gulch]

Got a full 76% blaze force sword, is that good, or is 80/60 better?

[sturdy reef]

The only really scary enemies are blue ragers with purple mod

[zealous wing]

i got one recently also, even just for the novelty of it

[solid pond]

stimms, purple, pox gas missions

[zealous wing]

all 76

[solid pond]

with dreg enemies

[hearty wolf]

I'll run a H30 then

[solid pond]

recipe for fun

[hearty wolf]

lets see how it goes

@sturdy reef you gaming?

[zealous wing]

a 60 on WR is better, because more damage and such, but 76 is still cool

[sturdy reef]

Nu, need to hit the gym

[hearty wolf]

sounds g

Enjoy

[sturdy reef]

Will root for u from the sidelines

[wraith gulch]

I figured, but thats still neat

[hearty wolf]

I'll let you know

[sturdy reef]

@hearty wolf blue eyes means carapace

Green eyes DoT resistance

Both get stagger resistance

[wraith gulch]

Btw whats the dump stat of the BFS

[solid pond]

[sturdy reef]

Yellow eyes is for ranged, shoot their head. Body ADMs change

[solid pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1420389821058256966/image.png?ex=68ec4ada&is=68eaf95a&hm=48223011154e13dd670cb31b3d14788c883e34ea8bd5e64baf7f98aaaca6b46e&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1420389810803314709/image.png?ex=68ec4ad8&is=68eaf958&hm=cd1c3688e119d2939f881f0ba1dc2196bd8b602eccf8861f312cfe89dcef29f6&

[hearty wolf]

Oh so, you're always wanting to take +cara damage when stimms is a modifier?

ooo text

lemme read

[hearty wolf]

thankie

[ripe obsidian]

doesn't matter

[sturdy reef]

Stimm mod is bloated

[ripe obsidian]

It's a flat 80% damage reduction to all armor types

for blue at least

ADMs are meaningless

[zealous wing]

warp resistance on almost all psyker weapons

voidSTRIKE is the exception

[wraith gulch]

Gotcha, makes sense

[wraith gulch]

I honestly dunno if I like the staves

[sturdy reef]

Brittleness voidblast support psyker is actually very good with the current modifiers rotation

[wraith gulch]

It might just be a latency issue but theres a slight delay between clicking and firing

[ripe obsidian]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/f069bde1ebdca0d0b9429b98d24eaf2c14acf32d/scripts/settings/buff/mutator_buff_templates.lua#L314

[wraith gulch]

But it throws off my aiming

[solid pond]

yea if the comp/team allows it ive been really enjoying running rending shockwave trauma with a purg psyk

[wraith gulch]

Idm them not being hitscan, I use projectile weapons in a bunch of games (TF2 huntsman my beloved)

But the lag is bleh

[solid pond]

for the primary fires yes, I have that too no matter the ping

but secondary fires are what you're using them for 99% of the time

[wraith gulch]

Eh, fair. I dunno what the secondary fires are for a lot of em yet

[solid pond]

unless purg where situational, or the odd build with EK

[hearty wolf]

Yikesd

Dude that mod is so overpacked

it's like what we thought about final toll before

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. And that's just blue.

[hearty wolf]

but this is on crack lmao

[wraith gulch]

Lemme hop into the Meatgrinder rq

[ripe obsidian]

There's also yellow, green, and red

[hearty wolf]

I just red them

[ripe obsidian]

Red is the only one that isn't stupid

[solid pond]

Voidblast is circle on ground, big CC, Voidstrike is a ball you shoot at enemy, not very good at the moment, Infernus is literally just a flamethrower and Electrokinetic is palpatine from wish

[hearty wolf]

I still think red alone would have been plenty strong enough

[wraith gulch]

LOL

I've got Voidblast, Voidstrike, and Electro in my inventory rn lemme try those out rq

Whats like

The general meta? I usually go off meta but i'm curious

[solid pond]

Infernus is best

infinite cleave will do that to you

voidblast is next

other 2 aren't used very often but if you're just playing auric and below

any can work

[zealous wing]

EK being my favourite stave makes me a weirdo

[wraith gulch]

Prolly not, I generally go for the higher difficulties, higher rewards and higher challenge

[graceful arch]

average heresy game(i am leveling a freind)

[wraith gulch]

I see why people like voidblast though lol

[solid pond]

Blazing spirit/Warp nexus on Voidblast is really good for general fuckery, Warp nexus/blaze away on Infernus

rending shockwave Blast is good too

different build but still very good

[winged creek]

in the pins is a build list of various staffs and builds that supports it w/ strengths & weaknesses

[solid pond]

^^^

[wraith gulch]

Oh epic

I consistently forget to check pins lol

[solid pond]

explains it in more effort than im willing to do at 5am

[wraith gulch]

Its 5am for you? 😭

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-job-mate-gif-9956404

[wraith gulch]

real 😭

Also electrokinetic doesnt seem terrible

Worse CC than voidblast but like

[solid pond]

just doesn't scale great/hit enough targets

[wraith gulch]

The damage doesnt seem too terrible

[wraith gulch]

Yeah thats one thing i noticed

[solid pond]

mostly hit enough targets

[sturdy reef]

EK and VS buffs pls

And beam/shotty staff

[solid pond]

cuz its competing with blast for CC which it loses and infernus for hitting things/damage

and everything loses to purg

[wraith gulch]

Yeahhhhh

[solid pond]

purg op

pls buff

[wraith gulch]

Actually seems pretty decent against armor

[winged creek]

pair it with venting shriek for add clear found worked decent for me

[wraith gulch]

Pair what with it

EK?

[winged creek]

yeah

solves the problem EK has with only hitting 2-3 targets max, left click spam on EK is actually decent, other one (noted in the build bonanza in the pins) is the crit damage display values on EK likely bugged, need test further myself but may not be a good dump stat

[verbal thistle]

crit damage was never the dump

or crit bonus

forgot what it was labeled

[winged creek]

critical bonus you're right, thanks for the catch

[tulip kettle]

yeah these stimms are actually bonkers

blue ragers very unfunny

[solid pond]

zealot ive been playing with just asks us to call them out

then FotF bonks them with a Thammer

100% rending go brr

[tulip kettle]

yeah i just pinged it and ran away ngl

[zealous wing]

[tulip kettle]

if its gonna ignore me im gonna ignore it

really enjoying the new tree

now its like, i dont have enough points for all the nodes i want

instead of, i cant reach the nodes i want because of stupid pathing

[zealous wing]

its a fun problem

[patent mango]

idek how much i l ike psy tree yet

defo a lot better than past one th ough

[tulip kettle]

i think the changes are really good tbh, souldrinker has always been a great talent but now you can actualy get it

[patent mango]

hmm

i do like the tree but i feel it still has slightly too many nodes

i thiink its the most out of any tree now?

basically just nitpicking tbh lmao

the best part of new tree is them killing perilous assault and unlucky f or some

[zealous wing]

they only added 3

and removed a ton of the tiny ones

[patent mango]

kinda crazy how this entire year we've just been in a training arc

[serene gazelle]

So is it a good strategy to use my blitz to get peril up then use staff to get it higher before using my shriek and then repeat?

[verbal thistle]

all situation dependent

I find that I often have my staff out in downtime so I do staff charge to maintain peril while I wait for enemies

but if there are enemies and I have assail I throw some

[wet belfry]

I learned that just a dream can be a dangerous talent pick, if getting hit while charging the staff

[sturdy reef]

If you have sg or shriek up it isnt much of a problem

[wet belfry]

Bubble is more versatile for H40

[hearty wolf]

@sturdy reefbtw I did one run of that h30 with pox gas, stimms and whatever else

team folded within 1m so I fought to first spawn

then they died again

[sturdy reef]

Lmao

Welcome back to climbing lol

[serene gazelle]

Is the staff left click worth doing or not really

[long saddle]

had a very fun game with a lvl 1000 smyker

they did not stop using it

[zealous wing]

welcome to "omg smite is meta you can do it permanently now for really good damage!" lies

[long saddle]

yeah at the expense of everyone else

[zealous wing]

yup

and, its damage is bullshit

[long saddle]

I had very fun with bubble knight at least

[winged creek]

on EK due to critical bonus left click can be otherwise most consider it not worth really using

[verbal thistle]

once again, situation dependent. EK is really the only staff that wants a mix of left clicks and right

[cosmic cobalt]

ek left click fuck

[long saddle]

some ppl get pissy when spamming it lol

[sonic schooner]

Hey i had an idea on how an Frost staff could work
You know the M2 of the Purgatus staff? It would work kind of like that, but instead it would summon an Warp Blizzard/Storm on top of where you are looking, kind of like the size of VoidBlast staff if not a little bit bigger.
It would damage the Enemies within its circle and apply Frostbite, while not doing much damage the effect in itself would make their attacks and speed slower.
What do you guys think?

[long saddle]

purgatus already slows things down tho

and does a lot of dmg

[ripe obsidian]

it staggers some things

doesn't have a slow afaik

[long saddle]

I find maniacs being much slower

[weary sable]

Guess the loadout.

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds like this:

https://vermintide2.fandom.com/wiki/Sienna's_Coruscation_Staff

[potent saffron]

Gloriana with purple and moebian was wack

[ripe obsidian]

Gloriana with purple and moebian was wack

[zealous wing]

im guessing the "sit in a corner and not actually play" smyker

[weary sable]

You'd be right.

[long saddle]

living up to the toilet monikor

it's shit

[potent saffron]

He killed the daemonhost though

[weary sable]

True.

[icy breach]

as a matter of fact i wiggle alot :3

[potent saffron]

He squirms like a tapeworm

[weary sable]

Now we have to ask ourselves the question: Could Purgatus do this?

[zealous wing]

yes

it does, regularly

[icy breach]

Yes i'm quite the parasite

[potent saffron]

I mean he took the daemonhost kill

[long saddle]

it would actually crit too

[potent saffron]

What can I say

Eve's hard work of pressing F!

[weary sable]

Because Chorus is out of meta now.

[icy breach]

only... the situations we were in; holy emperor prugatus would have some problems

[weary sable]

Or so i've heard from.. someone

[icy breach]

in some of them

[zealous wing]

"someone" ?

[potent saffron]

Does it mean tanny boy is a heretic for how avert he is to the holy icon of the inquisiton?!

[weary sable]

@zealous wing Yeah.. someone

[icy breach]

Tanny boi

[zealous wing]

figures

[sonic schooner]

It would be kind of like that, but you would be able to move around your mouse when casting it, the Warp Storm would not linger and would work basically like Purgatus M2. You charge it, hit M1 and it starts, the charge meter would be spent for like 3 to 5 seconds as you cast the warp storm on top of the enemies.

[zealous wing]

yall

earlier today i had someone in a game insist we had to fight the DH's because they spawned shit if we didnt

[icy breach]

ah ye that one; pepega that guy was

[sonic schooner]

We HAVE to fight the DH's! If we dont, we make the Emperor sad :(

[zealous wing]

true level 170, so not NEW

[wet belfry]

If you take damage it reduces the spawn frequency.

[potent saffron]

Brah

[icy breach]

show us the screenshot

[zealous wing]

yeah but we were in MALICE, the rest of us were like, lvl 12-15

mightve been 9-12

i forget what lvl goes where

he was mad i went after the crusher blob going after the other 2 teammates instead of help him

[potent saffron]

100% a griefer or his bone'ead implant is put in the wrong way

[weary sable]

Okay the only instance where something will spawn stuff when interacted with is the Chaos Shrines during the Skulls Event.

[wet belfry]

The AI director gets points that it can spend on elites, specialists. The points it has are decreased by either the player killing things or losing hp/going down.

This is why advancing rapidly through the map is so powerful.

[weary sable]

On what difficulties would you suggest to employ such a tactic?

[wet belfry]

Maelstroms or havocs?

Some maps are much easier then others

Gloriana for example forces players to fight enemies in order to get through chokepoints.

Comms plex meanwhile its possible to rush through majority of the map, without fighting everything.

[zealous wing]

yeah shroudfield/infiltrates come to mind

also the torrent water silo one

once you get down that elevator, the shroudfields go freerange

leave us to fight a chaosspawn in the door area, and they're already almost done with the final event by the time we get there

poor newbies went down a few times

[royal totem]

you're playing invis zealot?

[zealous wing]

no

though i do need the penance for it, so i'll have to at some point, i'm not gonna be an asshole

[young cliff]

how is invi zealot nuke meant to not be an asshole? how it retakes the aggro but still take the de-aggro node to do backstab shenanigans?

[quartz barn]

you just kill everything in a single hit

bad rep is mostly because most people use invis to hide rather than a crit boost

and loner is fine if you actually clear stuff, if you somehow cant stay alive as 3 let alone on your own its your problem

[royal totem]

watching people leave havoc missions is so damn frustrating

[long saddle]

loner doesn't exist anymore

[royal totem]

like why would you leave your havoc mission while 3 people are still alive?????

[weary crane]

BC they bad and mad

[royal totem]

yeah.......well it's still frustrating

it's like fine for me since i don't derank (lower level mission than mine) but it's still a big wtf

like props to the zealot that stayed with me till we died but we were kinda screwed once 2 people left anyways

[weary crane]

Me when people ask why I play havoc

https://youtube.com/shorts/fl9VYY9328Q

[stoic wagon]

kill the DH it gives you mystery curios

[zealous wing]

im not gonna use it when theres 5 crushers walking towards me and a psyker unless specific circumstances

though ill probably do what i did with the smite one and only do it in private games with my spouse

[royal totem]

oh god. oh god. i somehow got accepted into a havoc 26 ._.

[lone ravine]

you'll be fine

[serene gazelle]

is this possible? how is charge rate 61?

[lone ravine]

one of your 80%s are actually like a 79.5%

[ripe obsidian]

Fatshark math.

[lone ravine]

true 380+s have been gone for a long time now

[serene gazelle]

I have been scammed

or blessed

[ripe obsidian]

I have a couple 382s, and I think a 384 (?) somewhere

[serene gazelle]

is charge rate good for dump stat?

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Resist is the only really reasonable dump stat

[strong gulch]

only on LMB spam

[pale prairie]

@marble crater https://youtube.com/shorts/8K8EqMZocdY?si=w_aHP4axSd8PVc1g

[marble crater]

Yeah they lost their mind, Game Pass price increase was the worst, 50% more but they "included" shit nobody asked for. I went to the lowest tier for multiplayer and will just buy games on sale now

[serene gazelle]

whats a good weapon for doing the build withheavy attacks applying soul burn

[thorn cedar]

It's basically banking on people who just don't care.

[kind jay]

which unfortunately is more than the people who do care

[thorn cedar]

Like the price is literally, categorically unjustifiable unless your style of video gaming is to play one or two hours on one title before bouncing to the next for all your free time.

[kind jay]

thats why they keep doing it reeee

[marble crater]

Yeah of course they ran the numbers on how many people would have to leave to make it not worth it, and that's not happening so price increase works in their favor

[thorn cedar]

There's a word for this I'm looking for also

Plutonomy? Man it's bothering me.

[kind jay]

i think the word you're looking for is "bitchasses"

[thorn cedar]

Nope that's it, Plutonomy

Felt like I was missing a syllable.

[marble crater]

But I care, so now I am saving money, I have enough to play to not need Game Pass releases for a while and when I am finished with my backlog I will buy new games on sale, since I play mostly Darktide and RPGs, that will take a while anyway. I don't have the time to play all Game Pass games because I play Darktide and RPGs all the time. For the old price it was fine for the day one releases, but now it's crazy

[thorn cedar]

You're gonna wanna learn the word Plutonomy cause you'll start to see it a lot in the next few years as a replacement term for Enshittification, at least until the euphemism treadmill rolls over it and the media finds and funds a much more palatable term that doesn't define itself by othering the rich.

[marble crater]

Of all futures, why did it have to be the CP2077 we are getting

[thorn cedar]

its actually Robocop 2

[royal totem]

well, we lost twice but i don't think it was my fault lmao.

or to be clear

not entirely my fault

[marble crater]

Hexis' fault, I saw it with my own eyes

[strong gulch]

Less than 20k melks now. FGS where are you??

76s now

https://tenor.com/view/mymoney-needthat-gif-13598893

[marble crater]

You can have my melkbucks, I don't need them

[ripe obsidian]

I really like both of the vet tops currently in the shop.

[zealous wing]

;^;

[royal totem]

Hexis wasn't even in the game.

[zealous wing]

i like the one with the skull on the shoulder, but of the 5 classes, i like vet the least as it is, so i cant validate buying it yet

[royal totem]

but i think i probs would have taken Hexis over that psyker 🤔

[zealous wing]

only probably?

[ripe obsidian]

That's my dilemma. I have the aquilas, but I rarely play vet

And I already have a good outfit

[royal totem]

they were playing an inferno build with no KF and i'm pretty sure some of their talents were kinda sus

[zealous wing]

my vet is wearing the white set from commisarry

[royal totem]

to be honest i don't much notice inferno psykers but i sure as hell do notice when the hordes don't die

[zealous wing]

my vet has zero paid drip

i tried vet recently and its relatively meh

[ripe obsidian]

I got the fancy coats for all but Ogryn

[marble crater]

@strong gulch here

[ripe obsidian]

I love nice coats

[zealous wing]

i like options

[royal totem]

you don't play inferno staff though right? 🙁

[zealous wing]

but i have a build for it

[royal totem]

can i haz some diamantium? lmao

[royal totem]

idk. all i know is that hordes didn't die and also boss didn't die.

[zealous wing]

im so broke for ordo

[marble crater]

Sure, ask fatshark to give us trading

Sometimes I feel like I am the only one picking up mats in my missions

[thorn cedar]

id love to do trading

[royal totem]

how are you guys so rich? i only have 4.2k dia >.<

[thorn cedar]

id just dump a mil onto someone in the mourningstar

we play too much

[marble crater]

By playing for a long time after crafting all the weapons we need

[zealous wing]

i had 3mil before i started upgrading oggy and zealot

[ripe obsidian]

I'm only at like 19m after gambling so much for staves and swords

[thorn cedar]

🤷‍♀️

[zealous wing]

at least you can grind the number of ordo down from max to keep the number going up, but they really need a money sink

[lone ravine]

25 mil ordos into 1 aquilla

fr fr

[marble crater]

I don't think I have really focused on Melk in 2025, whatever I get, I get. Can't be bothered to talk to him

[zealous wing]

was thinking something similar, but i bit better ratio

1mil for 10 aquila maybe

[royal totem]

one day i'll get somebody here to play havoc with me

[zealous wing]

still shit but, something

[lone ravine]

25mil aquilla for 1 ordo docket

[marble crater]

If you say it at the right time someone will force you to

[zealous wing]

nemui

havoc

[thorn cedar]

wish they would, just to prompt an absolute deluge of losers shitting their pants and calling it a slap in the face despite being such dedicated players

[royal totem]

i have a problem in this game where i only truly like playing arb and psyker. i play zealot when needed cuz i don't mind it

[thorn cedar]

god it would be so funny

[lone ravine]

man i need to remove that 25% dmg into peril talent

its legit fucked me up so many times my last game

[marble crater]

What happens when you played too much EA games recently

[royal totem]

you never havoc when i play lmao.

though also, tomorrow i have to go to the dentist T__T

[zealous wing]

i never notice if youre havocing or not until youre midmatch :(

ooof

[marble crater]

Have fun

[royal totem]

i just happened to do the havoc 26 cuz reset is close and i troll applied

i figured they'd insta decline me

[lone ravine]

i dont like that my havoc rank is still 30

since i got carried hard season 1

[zealous wing]

you can manually derank it, no?

if you wanted to

[lone ravine]

does deranking show up for others?

or is it your highest completed rank

that shows

[zealous wing]

highest completed

[royal totem]

highest completed of the season

[marble crater]

All seasons

[zealous wing]

i fear i may need to delete and remake my zealot

the fucking bug is annoying the hell out of me

[royal totem]

oh it's all seasons? 😮 i thought was just this lmao

[zealous wing]

but i delete and redo zealot, a) is a huge pain because early zealot is shit, and b) funds

[marble crater]

And the bug is what?

[zealous wing]

every time i leave the character menu, it unselects a build, so i have to make sure i click one before i change something or it doesnt save when i DO click one, and it repeats

its constant

its only zealot

and its been like a week

[marble crater]

Just delete all builds, build zealot without builds

[lone ravine]

builds arent real they cant hurt you

[zealous wing]

then i dont have my builds for different blitz/ability for penances :/

[marble crater]

Still not finished with penances?

smh

[lone ravine]

i only got middle keystone arby and gone bowling penance

other than that its just the annoying kill 500000 of X enemy penances

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, only shows highest this season. At least with the mods I have

[marble crater]

Did I complete a h40 in season 2 and forgot?

[strong gulch]

I've been gambling hard.

[marble crater]

All that curio money

[strong gulch]

No 76s FGS.

worse

[marble crater]

Another million and you will get it, surely

https://tenor.com/view/99-percent-of-gamblers-gif-434871090499708776

[strong gulch]

I only have 17k left.

I will spend them all.

76s FGS is inevitable.

[marble crater]

Good, you can be the sacrifice for fatshark telling us about the new use of melkbucks next month along with the curio rework

[zealous wing]

keep a character slot open, make new character, skip campaign, do weeklies, delete character, loop

[strong gulch]

make a new character is locked out for me right now

[zealous wing]

too many

:(

[marble crater]

Most people don't know this, but the character limit exists because of Potato, without it he would make new psykers 24/7 and never play endgame missions

[zealous wing]

dont need more slots for that

i have one slot free for exactly that once my 3rd (technically 4th but deleted one) is done

though not specifically only psykers, might do some other classes sometime

[royal totem]

hmmm......apparently my new mission is a lil mean

Stims+garden

[thorn cedar]

sounds fun

[royal totem]

suffering......

honestly i'll be so happy when stims is no longer a thing

[vernal temple]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0187bf9-f729-40be-afec-832b87a46eaa/the-most-dogshit-build-possible-v1

whoever made this, you have been reported to the Inquisition

[dim horizon]

I don't know if this is the right channel. But I have the problem to get 2 penances for my psyker. One is warp battery and the other is the one were you have to kill 40 Enemies under Scriers gaze. Does anyone has tips on how to get them?

[patent mango]

scriers + by crack of bone then you just melee a horde

and warp battery is uhhh

[ripe obsidian]

This is too tryhard to be truly awful.

As in, they tried too hard to make a useless build

A magnificently awful build actually seems viable at first

[viscid matrix]

Warp battery is just don’t use your shriek/gaze/shield
and use infernus, spread the fire everywhere

[ripe obsidian]

Scrier's one is easy enough. There should be an Intro to Meleeker build in my pinned guide that you can use. Just get headshot kills to keep By Crack of Bone going. What is the Warp Battery one?

[sturdy reef]

[dim horizon]

Okay that helps a lot. Warp Battery is the one were you have to hold max warp charge stacks for 120 seconds

Thank you @ripe obsidian @viscid matrix @patent mango

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-glonker-glonker-cat-meme-this-is-my-cat-named-glonker-say-hi-to-glonker-gif-4213535426790504308

[strong gulch]

I am not as good on trauma as I used to be.

I'm washed.

[zealous wing]

de-trauma-tised

[ripe obsidian]

Ah. I think Kinetic Flayer is probably your best bet for that. Near guaranteed charge. Just don't use your combat ability

What difficulty are you currently playing at?

[dim horizon]

Okay I will try it again ☺️ thank you so much. I play auric right now. Its just hard to do warp Battery because the people you play with kill a lot of the elites and specialist. But that's what gives me the stacks.

[lone ravine]

if you feel like youre not getting kills to keep up warp battery stacks you can grab the one subnode that gives you a 4% chance on any teammate kill in coherency to get a stack

[lone ravine]

yea that

[serene gazelle]

is electronkinetic staff or the lightning blitz do more damage? should i ever use teh lgihtlighning blitz for actually damge or just charging peril?

[zealous wing]

[lone ravine]

the blitz on its own is meant for mass stunlock

rather than dmg

[zealous wing]

smite is not your DPS, ill say that much

[lone ravine]

people do megabuff it to make it their dmg

[strong gulch]

RIP. My new gloves are actively making clicking buttons harder. They are also causing me to hit buttons I had no intention of hitting.

I am in no mood to sew to stabilize the gloves if I cut them, but I might have to cut them.

[lone ravine]

but even then its still slow

[serene gazelle]

so the staff doesnt stun?

[lone ravine]

the staff does stun

but not as much as smite

considering smite will hit like an entire horde while staff will hit like 4-5 enemies

staff does have the benefit of actually dealing dmg

[serene gazelle]

so smite is for stunning then pull out the staff

[zealous wing]

lmao

EK works great with kinetic flayer

[lone ravine]

smites the "oh shit my teammates are shit at positioning and i dont want them to die" button

[zealous wing]

i had to fight 2 monstrosities on my own with EK, because the other psyker was dead set on only using their assail, and we had two bots

the worst part is they had a fucking gun

[serene gazelle]

with psyker im just having trouble shfoiguring out when to use what cause a lot of it seems kinda to do the same thing

Like why use staff or blitz when i have sword

[zealous wing]

thats good actually

melee is your primary in most cases

[lone ravine]

unless you are running dedicated staff build

[zealous wing]

blitzes are just like grenades

[lone ravine]

most staff psykers i see run knife for mobility and staff for actual dmg

[serene gazelle]

but like its a fast recharge grenade that isnt like a ton of damage

how do you use the staff like spam lights or always charge up?

psyker has always confused me thats why i have max vet and zealot already lol

[lone ravine]

staff you mostly want to charge up

unless you have to snipe a special or you need stagger using purgatus

[serene gazelle]

so use charged staff against a horde pretty much?

like electro kinetic just zap em all

[dim horizon]

Gonna try it later ☺️

[lone ravine]

mostly

you'll figure out any use cases for m1 with time

[serene gazelle]

i use light to just snipe dudes or stop net dudes or snipers

[serene gazelle]

so i guess my confusion is with the electric blitz and the shards one like why not just use my staff instead of those

[lone ravine]

you wont always have a staff in your build

[graceful arch]

This could have been over so much faster if we didn't have a smyker

[lone ravine]

and shard is basically a rechargeable gun

[rich spindle]

The ek staff is not very good at killing hordes of trash mobs, the assail shards are better at that

[serene gazelle]

so what is ek staff for? armored dudes?

[graceful arch]

if there's enough elites on screen assail ain't even getting used perilous combustion will just kill everything

[graceful arch]

it's actually pretty shit for it with the hp buff

you need to full charge for like 800 damage

[serene gazelle]

so what is ek staff for

[rich spindle]

Zapping

[graceful arch]

tapping elites and specials m1

m2 is used to open bulwarks and sometimes stop crusher mid overhead

[rich spindle]

I like using it to stun dogs or running trappers too

[serene gazelle]

so shards is better for actually dealing with hordes or armored dudes?

[graceful arch]

hordes

assail does jack to armor aswell

your melee should be the armor stick for when your team is struggling

you can also use ek to stagger

[serene gazelle]

so if i have blaze sword, ek staff and asail what do i use each for

[royal totem]

Id do blaze sword with bb kf and ek staff personally but shrugs

[serene gazelle]

the hell is bb kf

oh kinetic flay

oh im loking at that thats frikin nuts

so bb for big dudes and just kinda sword and ek staff for dealing with everything else?

is ek staff for hordes?

[rich spindle]

You’ll want to use your sword to deal with hordes of the little zombies

[serene gazelle]

what is staff for?

[royal totem]

Errrr wut

[rich spindle]

Think of it like a gun that can stun people

You can left click on shooters, or stun bulwarks/ crushers / maulers

[royal totem]

Never listen to me though.

[zealous wing]

ek staff, specialists elites crushers
BB, long range sniping
KF, passive with all attacks
melee, hordes, attacking when at too high peril, general use

[royal totem]

Im the worst psyker here

My siblings carry me

[zealous wing]

your job shouldnt be killing monsters, but if it is, EK

or melee if your weapon is specifically built up for that

[royal totem]

i'll offer you my take on it, even though you really shouldn't listen to me

i just use EK with shriek so i use EK to stack up peril fast, firing the LMB at anything. then i shriek to give even more soublaze

i have perilous combustion so elites spread more soublaze anyways, and then i just rinse and repeat

i almost never melee when i'm using EK. only when i'm trying to knock back things or just get a quick kill on a hound or what not

if something is super far i brain burst it sometimes. but other times i just fire more EK lmb at it

if i can single something quickly i'll just zap it with RMB of EK

ok. please don't listen to any of this. it's bad advice

[graceful arch]

with ek my crusher dps is at around 500 :/

for refrence deimos is about 1500

[ripe obsidian]

EK RMB lost out hard with the HP increases

As did Voidstrike

[royal totem]

yeah i don't have that. i just have a knife

[graceful arch]

prestack slaugtherer and deimos can 2 tap crusher

nvm it's a 4 tap to be consistent cause of non crits

[royal totem]

i don't wanna accidentally overload

[graceful arch]

why you run shriek

or just be careful not to push attack 🙂

[royal totem]

yeah......nty to that. first of all, i get close to overload when shriek is on cooldown. second of all, i'm wired to push attack.

[pale prairie]

@marble crater

[serene gazelle]

what does blocking do with the blaze sword

[royal totem]

if you block, nothing

nothing special anyways

if you use the push attack (block, push, attack)

it will increase your peril

actually i think just the push increases peril

[ripe obsidian]

Deflector blocks ranged

[royal totem]

somebody will answer that for me

i am very full right now and a little addled

[serene gazelle]

what is blocking then

[royal totem]

blocking is just.....hold right mouse button down

attacks that hit you won't damage you but will drain stamina

(note that blocking won't work on certain attacks)

[graceful arch]

No the push is fine

[serene gazelle]

i never block. should i be using block?

[graceful arch]

push attack will turn you into a firework if you do it on 100% peril though

[royal totem]

block is VERY VERY good

[serene gazelle]

when should i use block

[graceful arch]

only block when you have to to regain dodge efficiency otherwise dodge

[royal totem]

so for example in combat, i dodge a lot. but you only get a limited number of dodges. so sometimes to give myself dodges back

[serene gazelle]

so dodge and hit until im out of dodges then block for a bit then go back to dodging and hitting

[royal totem]

sometimes i block for a moment when tagging something for my dog

[royal totem]

yes

[serene gazelle]

nice

so with blaze sword theres nothing special with the block unless yo uhave deflector then it also blocks ranged?

[graceful arch]

try to keep one or two dodges left of dodge efficiency left when you can

[tulip kettle]

yes

this is correct

but Kinetic deflection talent is very, very good

taking KD + deflector lets you just tank for days while holding block

its very strong

[graceful arch]

it is but i can just ee 🙂

[royal totem]

i don't take KD either btw lmao

[serene gazelle]

so waht s the deal with the blaze sword push does the push actually push or only the push attack

[tulip kettle]

like, tank demonhost all day strong

the push pushes a lil

the push attack pushes one person very far

it also does 2 whole damage

which is enough to proc KF

[graceful arch]

the regular push is a bit wierd with that it only pushes things that are very close or something you are looking directly pa does a bigger push

nvm

pa pushes something in your crossair

[tulip kettle]

PA is the one that only pushes whats in your crosshair

and only 1 thing

normal push pushes all around but less

[graceful arch]

pa is nice for pox bursters and can stagger crusher

[tulip kettle]

push attack can stagger ragers out of combos etc

[royal totem]

oh, since you asked this earlier Totalsmash, i do actually have a rationale for attacking mostly with EK instead of pulling out melee. EK LMB has high crit so paired with empathic evasion lets me dodge most bullshit ranged as long as i'm firing it.

[tulip kettle]

blasts bursters away

[royal totem]

what's PA?

[tulip kettle]

push attack

[graceful arch]

also dom haven't seen you on in a while

what's good

[tulip kettle]

darktide my dude!

darktide is good!

though these H40's with pink and stimms are making me sweat my balls off

blue ragers scary

[graceful arch]

blue ragers showing up on your doorstep as we speak

[tulip kettle]

but yeah just had some stuff going on irl you know how it be

[graceful arch]

immortal stagger immune lord of destruction

makes plague monks seem like a walk in the park

[tulip kettle]

i have learnt to ping them and run away

let my ogryn or arb deal with them

was funny when there was one on the floor with an arb dog on it and all 4 of us smacking it

just wouldnt fucking die

[graceful arch]

i remember when it was new and there was like 5 blue stimmed ragers chasing our psyker

and they were complaining about it not dying

meanwhile i was chasing it down hitting it in the head like 50 times with the tac axe as zealot

man did not want to go down

[tulip kettle]

its funny when they are aggroed on someone else

less funny when its on you

[ripe obsidian]

Healing stim enemies is "fun". Rotten armor stim crushers and ragers and maulers are "fun"

[radiant yew]

attention freaks: group pissing starts in ten minutes

[ripe obsidian]

Zealot chat is that way

[glass sleet]

aight, so, is Wildfire broken or what? Said it applies up to 4 stacks of Soulblaze but I always get 1...any ideas? And depending on that...the current meta psyker is like what? Perilous combustion/Wildfire/Warp Siphon bubble flame staff?

[ripe obsidian]

Hold on.

[ripe obsidian]

"Whenever an enemy who is affected by at least two stacks of Psyker's Soulblaze dies, Soulblaze is spread to valid targets within a 5m radius. Targets do not receive Soulblaze stacks caused by the talent if they already have 4 stacks or more on them. Valid targets can receive Soulblaze stacks up to a maximum of 4 that are caused by the talent. Daemonhosts are not valid targets.

The amount of Soulblaze stacks that is spread depends on the amount of Soulblaze stacks on the dying enemy: If the enemy dies with 1 stack, no spread; if dying with 2 stacks, 2 stacks will spread; if dying with 3 stacks, 3 stacks will spread; if dying with 4 stacks, 4 stacks will spread; if dying with more than 4 stacks, only 4 stacks will spread.

The maximum amount of valid targets is 4: If 4 stacks are to be spread and 4 targets are in range, each target receives 1 stack; if 4 stacks are to be spread and 3 targets are in range, 1 target receives 2 stacks while the other 2 targets receive 1 stack each,"

Source: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno + Bubble is the high havoc meta, yes. I have builds in the pinned guide.

[glass sleet]

the link u just sent in chat or the Psyker Build Bonanza?

also, thanks a bunch for the info, I was looking for all that

[ripe obsidian]

Build Bonanza is the guide. I should probably clarify that in the pin

[glass sleet]

yeah, i was looking for a 30+ solution, so it works perf for me

[ripe obsidian]

The link I just sent is Kuli's mechanics guide. Very helpful stuff

[glass sleet]

💯 🍻 blessings be upon ye

[ripe obsidian]

I personally prefer Inferno + Shriek, but Bubble is more common

Shriek allows me to do a lot more at the cost of protecting my team. Is a trade. The problem comes in when teammates struggle to stay alive without it.

[glass sleet]

it do be like that

[ripe obsidian]

So I'd say winning is probably easier with randoms with bubble, but your experience will vary

[glass sleet]

but new season psyker is not previous season bubble psyker

so...

[tulip kettle]

i found that shriek is much better dmg but if someone else isnt dealing with gunner spam then youre in for a bad time with no bubble on most maps

PLUS

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek regularly gets me 3m+ damage H40 games. 4m+ twice so far. Not yet 5m

[tulip kettle]

bubble lets you skip a few other toughness gen nodes to get other things instead

[royal totem]

i need to be carried ._.

please don't actually carry me

[ripe obsidian]

I get the same toughness gen nodes with or without Shriek

[tulip kettle]

bubble means you have the toughness in bubble node, and youre pretty much always in the bubble, so i find that for example quietitude is not so needed

[ripe obsidian]

As for gunners, yeah, it depends how far away they are. I had a brutal gunner seed Carnival map with Shriek, but I could mostly stagger them then run close and spam LMB to suppress

[ripe obsidian]

I don't take Quietude to begin with

[tulip kettle]

i think its silo with the spiral staircase at the start? that map with lots of gunners is very not fun without bubble

[ripe obsidian]

Quietude is a good node now, I just don't use it

[ripe obsidian]

Yeahhhh, Silo is a map where bubble is kinda needed

For multiple areas

The start, the long halls leading to the mid event, and the end event

I have learned the hard way that Shriek there is not ideal

[tulip kettle]

when you shriek at them and it doesnt even reach

then the rager nearby hands you a cigarette and blindfolds you

https://tenor.com/view/tombstone-commercial-execution-firing-squad-gif-21720691

[ripe obsidian]

Have you faced death in the form of a single blue stim rager yet?

[bright summit]

@ripe obsidian lol my gf ran into you in a pub last night

[ripe obsidian]

Yup

We won it

[bright summit]

neat

[ripe obsidian]

Despite the game's best efforts. It was not a clean win, ha

I think we all died at least twice

[royal totem]

how did you get rid of that blue stim rager?

hmmm........i need a vet or a good ogryn for this 🙁 but not really getting any requests

[ripe obsidian]

Kill it. Otherwise it keeps coming

I want to try new vet in Havoc. I can join you for some H20s or whatever you're doing in a bit

[royal totem]

yes. i mean how did you guys kill it

[fierce crest]

gotta swap perilous commbustion for mind in motion

[ripe obsidian]

Oh. I kept kiting backward until a teammate came and helped

Took both of us to bring it down

Here's my go at a bad build. This one would probably trick an inexperienced player.

[royal totem]

i should try playing with that build once

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't tried it

I imagine it wouldn't be great

It's honestly kinda hard to make an outright bad build on any class unless you're trying. You can pick a few questionable nodes, but mostly everything is worth using. Mostly.

[radiant yew]

Best force sword for horde clear?

Wait wait wait does Immaterial Focus give a flat 10% DR to all incoming damage

[thorn cedar]

yea

[tulip kettle]

you want a force greatsword, they are both great

but if you must use a normal force sword, illisi is best for horde clear

imagine its a power sword but without power cycler

[radiant yew]

Noted, switching to MLGS

[royal totem]

still suffering unfortunate H20s lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, health and toughness. It's good.

[ripe obsidian]

Force Greatsword followed by Illisi

I've been swapping my 2 points between Just a Dream, One with the Warp, and Immaterial Focus.

I also have a build with all 3, but I honestly don't think having the extra one will save me in any situation where I am already dying

And giving up Vulnerable Minds in Havoc feels bad.

Right now I am toying with Just a Dream and One with the Warp, which is going well enough. I do miss my 15%ish uptime on stun immunity, but I don't know how often that actually helped me on staffker

[royal totem]

i'm too afraid of having my peril jumped to use JAD

i acknowledge it's really good, but i'm a coward xD

[glass sleet]

make it dead, they're insanely difficult to deal with and I hate it...the other thing is gunner with yellow stim, they get like 123213124214124% attack speed and you die before you see them...so that's a thing....

[serene gazelle]

how can iget the highest damage on brain burst?

[royal totem]

errr buffs? iirc it scales with buffs. but like also......it one shots most things you'd want to shoot with it

[dire burrow]

i need an elite squad of psykers

[ripe obsidian]

It kills me now and again, or locks me at high peril when I have no space to quell and need my staff to make room

Not 100% sure it's worth it

[glass sleet]

for what purpous would that be battle sister?

[royal totem]

i feel like it's much more no brainer on melee

[dire burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/space-king-warhammer-no-girls-allowed-40k-captain-gif-11039182067918945112

[ripe obsidian]

30% ranged attack speed and 5x the shots in a single volley

[glass sleet]

mah bad fam, i tabbed in and out before I could see your name, I read Adepta Sororitas xD

[glass sleet]

love it...it melted me in less than 1 sec while with the ogryn... :x

[wooden stone]

epic embed failure laugh at this user

https://tenor.com/view/space-king-warhammer-no-girls-allowed-40k-captain-gif-11039182067918945112

[ripe obsidian]

Girls are allowed. We Psykers are egalitarian

[pale prairie]

more like equal opportunity emprah food

[thorn cedar]

my beloved says that cooties are just an immune response to love

[glass sleet]

we came from the Warp and we shall return to the Warp

[royal totem]

i won 😲

but now it's onwards to Magistrati oubliette with cranial corruption and stims

[glass sleet]

what clearance lvl?

[royal totem]

23

[glass sleet]

u need a 4th?

[royal totem]

don't even have a 3rd but need to bio first

[glass sleet]

what's bio?

[royal totem]

bathroom/water/biological needs

alright. i'll take a 3rd though

[glass sleet]

i've never heard anyone call it that XD

[royal totem]

@ripe obsidian you still busy?

[glass sleet]

sure what Strike Team or u want ingame vox?

[royal totem]

i've been playing comless lmao

[glass sleet]

not optimal my G

xD

[serene gazelle]

can you like not block the twins melee dude or something

[royal totem]

i mean if you want to say anything in game vox i would listen. i don't have in game disabled or anything

[royal totem]

you can

[glass sleet]

what u mean?

[royal totem]

but because of how their attack works it can quickly deplete stam

they have a i think it's 4 hitter? quick combo

but they either don't move or move slowly during it so if you just dodge backwards you'll avoid it

[plucky flax]

Voice chat is overrated

Even karien don't demand voice chat anymore

[rich spindle]

we love fatshark servers

[verbal thistle]

yup

so I called it there

and went to DRG

[royal totem]

DRG?

[verbal thistle]

Deep Rock Galactic

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-driller-satchel-charge-charge-throw-gif-12668204393087787311

[royal totem]

@glass sleet i mean i have no way oof inving them since i don't have their gamecode or anything lmao

[pale prairie]

Well it’s unnecessary when she is carrying soooo

[royal totem]

^^^

[plucky flax]

Tru but she wanted us to hear her sweet voice before

[pale prairie]

Damn your flaming finally worked

[iron flame]

Is brain burst buffed ?

I want to go back the old days of launch DT days of popping heads

Assasil is cool and all but I just like that heart beat and crunch noise

[craggy patrol]

You know what would be cool, not changing the psyker skill tree everytime I launch this game

or just remove the skill trees, because they are false choice designed around funnels with 1 node changes

just like vermintide

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. It scales better now.

And Kinetic Flayer is much better

[strong gulch]

no mo melks

[ripe obsidian]

That's certainly one of the takes of all time

[strong gulch]

You've only logged into game 3 times?

I get the frustration tho. I had over 100 builds get shitted.

[royal totem]

@glass sleetthanks for the help. 4 games of havoc is enough for me though

[strong gulch]

Good luck in future havocs. Hope we both get more gud. 🫡

Also with clear brains and decent reaction times

[royal totem]

well i'm at .....havoc 23 now

so my next mission is h24

very slowly climbing

[strong gulch]

I have not tried to climb yet

[royal totem]

you're at 30 though right?

[glass sleet]

the climbing usually stops at around H30 and then it turns into a roller coaster of various fuckery xD bad mutator rng + fatshark server rng + general rng

[royal totem]

i'm determined to make it higher than that

[glass sleet]

u will

[royal totem]

it'll just .....take me longer

gonna try to not play super ass modifiers

[glass sleet]

that is my usual go-to

[royal totem]

hoping to make it to 25 this week though

[zinc phoenix]

Generally if you make it into the 30s you get good teams and 40 is pretty quick. It’s the 20s that are pretty painful

[strong gulch]

20 something or other. Lost a couple just playing around with peeps.

But I'm not that invested rn. I don't like the reset plus the decay.

[zinc phoenix]

I did this twice, once when havoc came out and again after the first reset and honestly I’m done after this second reset. Tired of grind up with bad teams only for another reset to come thru. Especially with the whole asinine party finder system

Plus people shit a brick if you deviate from the approved setup

[solid pond]

I've got a 40 you can run

[ripe obsidian]

I am free now

[royal totem]

Hmmm....alright ill get out of bed and do 1 more

[solid pond]

You 2 full? I'm down for shenanigans

[royal totem]

def not full. and i am trying hard to win

it's uhhh fart armor and stims though

[solid pond]

Shrimple

Gimme a couple minutes and I'm down

Gotta launch PC and game lol

[royal totem]

@ripe obsidian you're down?

[ripe obsidian]

If you are in bed, just sleep

:(

[past meadow]

What are or where can I find the detailed stats of the force great sword special attack? DMG, cleave values, etc and also what DMG buffs can apply to it? Can it headshot or crit?

[ripe obsidian]

Rest is more important

(said the hypocrite)

[royal totem]

nah it's fine it's really not that late lmao

(more than 1 round would truly be a stretch though)

[ripe obsidian]

gimme like 10 minutes to upgrade my power falchion

[strong gulch]

I'd join but my brains feel bad.

[solid pond]

[strong gulch]

Another reason why I haven't been havoc-ing much.

[ripe obsidian]

I need to power level it to mastery 20

I have never used it

[royal totem]

lmao the "sac a ton of weapons to it" route? haha

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[solid pond]

Shrimply the fastest way

[royal totem]

i'm just gonna play shock mine spam

[ripe obsidian]

almost done

[solid pond]

im good just restarting game cuz I made it crash

[royal totem]

lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Ready

[royal totem]

hmmm says six is offline 😮

[ripe obsidian]

I am not offline

[royal totem]

huh weird

lemme try again

[solid pond]

onlinen't

[royal totem]

i don't suppose we have a 4th person here

[plucky flax]

No

[royal totem]

@deft stump i'm asking if you'd like to help me do a havoc. i have Six and Catmiral with me

if you read this too late just disregard this message though xD

i'm just gonna..........party find us a random i suppose? @solid pond

on a side note, look at the little baby arb getting carried by 2 vets lmao.

[plucky flax]

[solid pond]

[plucky flax]

Wait don't name drop me wtf

Now I'll get flamed

[solid pond]

you get flamed anyway

[royal totem]

i thought you said you get flamed anyways

[plucky flax]

Yeah but I don't want more fire 🔥

[royal totem]

that.......didn't go long

[plucky flax]

Damn I ran out of bailey's.

Life is sad.

[deft stump]

I don't carry havocs. I'm on bed spamming emotes.

[plucky flax]

Why are you staring at me?

I have rot armour and stim on ascension riser. The start is going to be rough.

[deft stump]

Time to poke Syllo to see if his is less hell.

[plucky flax]

But you carry us.

[summer prairie]

huh new maps and cranial is back

[plucky flax]

What new map?

Excise vault?

[summer prairie]

"new"; oubliette

oubliette cranial stimms, basically free. Would like rotten oubliette

[royal totem]

.........................................

you've got to be fucking kidding me

[royal totem]

yes i know

[ripe obsidian]

Fatshark pls

[royal totem]

i'm.......gonna try this again tomorrow 🙁

[ripe obsidian]

RIP

[verbal thistle]

six

[ripe obsidian]

Power falchion is honestly pretty fun, but I can see why it's much worse than power sword

[royal totem]

i didn't need a carry. i need Karien luck to make sure the server didn't abort my mission 🙁

[verbal thistle]

yeah, good luck playing darktide with how the servers have been

[ripe obsidian]

doesn't look like you've mastered your time control powers yet

[deft stump]

The best. I still think the 3 game modes run on different server farms.

[verbal thistle]

the ogryn had places to be

[deft stump]

Havoc servers are the worst.

[solid pond]

game was calling bullshit on my 0 damage taken on 270 ping

had to nuke that shit

[royal totem]

i'm so mad. while there's no true such thing as home free in havoc, that was pretty close to home free. twins down, Coms-plex data-interrogator event done....

and then servers went boom

[ripe obsidian]

he zoomed away

[solid pond]

final event can be rough if you don't stick together and/or get a rough boss spawn

[deft stump]

Home free is when the end cutscene plays.

[solid pond]

and we weren't exactly sticking together so, it would've been fun atleast

[ripe obsidian]

I was playin' like a goofus

[solid pond]

no no

tactical overheads

[ripe obsidian]

I thought I was being clever, ha

Jumped to try to toss the grenade over the mauler

Got swatted like a fly

[royal totem]

I wasnt playing my best. Though was doing ok

[ripe obsidian]

You were fine

[royal totem]

Tired

[solid pond]

gameplay was physically fine, just positioning

probably what you'd need to work on if you're aiming to push through 30s

20s is whatever

but better to learn early

[plucky flax]

Mid event sewer assassin map with shooters above + walls of crusher.

[royal totem]

No real clue positioning lol

[solid pond]

heresy hit enemies mindset positioning

enemies over there? that must be where I need to go

[summer prairie]

the tunnel before the event with crusher spam and the new specialist frequency

[deft stump]

That's panicking and trying to find Chaos or Syllo.

[ripe obsidian]

I have no idea how to position. I just stand behind my team on Psyker and in front of my Psyker on Arby.

[plucky flax]

Should be leading the line as burga actually.

[royal totem]

I dont go stop enemies coming from rear? This is sadly a serious question

[ripe obsidian]

I lead until the bad guys show up

Then I run and hide

[plucky flax]

Tru if it's crushers spam then run back.

[solid pond]

just gotta watch how far behind or infront, and not always behind with psyker too, sometimes your team is handling different directions and you just have to let the other dude hold while you kill a wave of armour or something

and also holding good rooms

[ripe obsidian]

I was mostly joking

[plucky flax]

I am not.

[solid pond]

overheads tells me

maybe

[plucky flax]

Please give tips.

[solid pond]

[plucky flax]

Me veri noob only karien can save me.

[ripe obsidian]

I have no idea what I'm doing on Vet

[solid pond]

dodging doesn't change on vet

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't played vet in like a year

[solid pond]

press dodge button

don't become pancake

[ripe obsidian]

I was in midair

[royal totem]

am seriously trying to learn

[ripe obsidian]

I died because I jumped

[solid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[plucky flax]

Vet p sword is good damage but the dodging is ass.

I dunno what to do.

Just not play vet I guess.

[solid pond]

use DS

power sword bad

[deft stump]

I have no idea what I'm doing on any class tbh.

[plucky flax]

Tru

It's always ds time.

I play too much psyker now I have skill issue on every class apart from arby.

[solid pond]

see what six does

and don't do that

[ripe obsidian]

True.

I do know how to position on Psyker, sort of on Arby, not so much on the other classes

[plucky flax]

I play support zealot and call it a day. No care about damage.

[ripe obsidian]

I have cleared H40 on everything but Vet, but the Oggy one was mostly the team dragging my corpse

[royal totem]

Stab things and pray?

[solid pond]

no

wave a relic at them

scare the heretics into submission

[royal totem]

Read bedtime stories?

[plucky flax]

Ye shank them with knife then read them book

Most classes have self regen nade now using flame nade is pretty big damage increase

[royal totem]

Whats your ranged wep on sup zealot

[deft stump]

I thought that's only Vet and Arby?

[plucky flax]

Rock and psyker

[jovial juniper]

No need to dodge if you kill everything

[plucky flax]

Only ogryn nuke is the other class to pick up nade

[deft stump]

I don't count Psyker for obvious reasons. They are their own 'nades

[royal totem]

@solid pond if enemies coming from behind? What should i do?

[plucky flax]

Have you tried turning around?

[solid pond]

what're you playing in this situation?

[plucky flax]

Do a 180

[deft stump]

Panic, run to others unless you can deal with them.

[solid pond]

find the first crusher and die to an overhead so you fast travel to your allies

[royal totem]

I feel when i go deal with them i fall too far behind team which is...well...bad

[royal totem]

Arb

Wait...i know. I should lead crushers to the psyker inserts troll face

[plucky flax]

You can run away on arby

[solid pond]

communication issue TBH

you can kite them while killing them too

[deft stump]

You should, Chaos murders them.

[solid pond]

don't have to stay and fight

[royal totem]

Also, thanks for playing with me :3

[plucky flax]

Not me I am scared of crushers

[royal totem]

I strive to make my teammates lives less stressful

Ok got it. Chaos will kill crushers for me lul

[deft stump]

Uh huh... Sure...

[royal totem]

Im always scared of crushers and maulers

I just try to bonk them as hard as posdible on arb

[solid pond]

just kill them and then they're dead

[prisma niche]

I was just a psyker surrounded by zealots
All three of them berrating me the entire time

[plucky flax]

Id quit that game tbh

Racism against psyker

[prisma niche]

Oh not the players, the characters

[royal totem]

I no like being bullied 🙁

[deft stump]

Is the same with psykers and arbys lul.

[solid pond]

feels like arby's are a bit more wholesome towards liabilities

[deft stump]

You must have been getting Fatalists.

[craggy patrol]

I completed three aurics with no skill points allocated tonight with a fever of 103 therefore we dont need skill trees

[deft stump]

There's rose tinted goggles between them and psykers.

Why Loner x Fatalist is lul.

[prisma niche]

How the fuck do I get cliffhanger
it's the ONLY penance between me and 100%ing the penances

For psyker, anyway

[plucky flax]

I heard it's impossible

[prisma niche]

It's gotta be doable...
Just...
Wwwwhere do I do this?

I've tried to kite enemies on the furnace mission
There are so few killpits where it CAN be done

[upbeat kestrel]

try #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[solid pond]

end part of metal fab

the turning on the smelter one

could be good for it

I don't remember where I did it cuz it was yonks ago

[prisma niche]

I’ve been trying that

I manage to kite a bunch of them to the middle circle thing but I just can’t shove enough of them down there

[solid pond]

with shriek?

[quartz barn]

Did mine in one of the hourglass missions

Shriek, spam push, get lucky

You can try using smite to gather a nice group, but good luck with teammates

[solid pond]

be funny to use smite and angle yourself to the pushback of smite pushes them into a pit

smite push into shriek

perhaps

[ripe obsidian]

Death by JaD. Running Voidblast + Bubble and couldn't RMB because I kept taking damage from the rotten armor clouds

[long saddle]

I think I did mine on rolling steel at the part where you insert the power cores

lots of ppl dropping down from above

[wind spruce]

@plucky flax watching your latest video and so far you've shrieked four times and NONE have been at 6 WC

Warp battery is dead

[ripe obsidian]

Oof, I just played the worst I have in quite a while.

Went down 4 times

[plucky flax]

Its just bad for for blaze trauma

[wind spruce]

I'm just messing obvs your first 4 shrieks doesn't mean anything

[ripe obsidian]

It was rotten armor/stimms, I was on rending trauma/bubble, and I kept positioning really poorly and getting trapped in armor

[wind spruce]

It happens

(Not to me of course)

[ripe obsidian]

I feel bad for dragging my team down

[plucky flax]

No but blaze trauma doesn't get last hit when there's another psyker in the team

[ripe obsidian]

I also barreled the arby once

[plucky flax]

Burga get way more last hits

[wind spruce]

From direct damage?

[plucky flax]

From big soulblaze stacks and blaze away

[wind spruce]

Is all of that Arby's ranged damage from the shotty or does it get a bunch of range from like shocks or whatever

[plucky flax]

Arby with 400k melee damage

[ripe obsidian]

PowerDI says 800k from ranged, 250k from blitz

[ripe obsidian]

I know not what to say about that

[wind spruce]

Syllo with zero soulblaze tho

[summer prairie]

he means lmb was stealing elite kills

[plucky flax]

Why is it so dark

[wind spruce]

Poorly timed SS

[wind spruce]

Ah

[ripe obsidian]

I think I do need to work on my positioning more, especially in something like stims/rot. The onslaught of armor ruined my day

My first down was just me being stupid and getting bullied by a stimmed basic shooter

But the rest were me mispositioning and getting rocked

[plucky flax]

Its hard when team does no cc too

Or no damage

Both

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know enough to say if they were doing enough damage or CC

I picked Trauma for the mission because we lost the first few tries and I wanted more control of the armor

[long saddle]

btw, I've been trying out your bubble knight build @plucky flax and was wondering what soulstealer was for mainly

is it warp slashes or the assails every now and then?

[plucky flax]

Ye for toughness regen when throwing assails

[long saddle]

gotcha, might test swapping it out for quietude or something else

[wind spruce]

You're not generating enough peril on bubble knight to make quietude really pop off

Unless you're doing weird sword stroke and quell shenanigans

[summer prairie]

I bet the +10% ranged node is more damage than true aim for bubble knight