#psyker-class

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zealous wing
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not until i get to lvl 2,

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i need an illisi at the very least

visual trellis
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Doing campaign but I can do random missions as well

zealous wing
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ive also got campaign

visual trellis
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I will busy carrying some things in the house in a minute tho so don’t expect a invite yet Sitgryn

zealous wing
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kk

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ill run the first mission rq to get myself a decent sword

marble crater
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I will download BG3 mods while you get ready

zealous wing
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hehehehehhehe

ripe obsidian
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Warp Ghost is less effective than any single toughness regen skill, I believe. It's still very good, but not solely for that. Also, Warp Ghost is not ideal on Bubble Knight, as you want passive peril quelling so you can throw more Assails

iron flame
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Ohh I thought assail is not used too much since the build is already using guns

ripe obsidian
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Assail doesn't need ammo, which is a boon, and can cleave through a bunch of targets

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It's very good for slicing through crowds and clearing loose hordes

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The ideal is to weave it in while meleeing, but that can be challenging

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Tbh I have a macro to throw Assail. It's middle click to swap press G > throw one shard > swap back to melee.

white valley
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Assail is also good for killing most ranged units, and has surprisingly high range with the aimed mode

jovial juniper
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No

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You do get acknowledgement from me

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Which is worth nothing

zealous wing
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k we lost, thankfully, so i am only level 2

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now we can see if lvl 2 psyker is enough for damnation kekw

marble crater
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Very sad

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@visual trellis Are you ready as well?

lone ravine
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you get the prize of a whole 3 random pox walkers getting shocked by your wall

royal totem
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i forgot sometimes i have to solo malice missions

marble crater
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@zealous wing tell him

zealous wing
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uh

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join us

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no spoilers

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what blessings specifically for illisi btw

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no KD so no deflector

marble crater
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Slaughterer and uncanny

royal totem
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hmmm i'm confused. Ainz said obscurus one taps mutants but i'm testing in the training room on auric and it's not always 1 tapping

zealous wing
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with the right perks, blessings, and talents

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probably

royal totem
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ah i see

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that would explain it

zealous wing
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come, join us

royal totem
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? what am i doing?

zealous wing
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joining with a low level character

marble crater
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"YuriKnight" is that Karien?

zealous wing
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no

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yuri is nemui

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zyra is moth

royal totem
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don't ask about my steam name. cuz i won't give a reply

ripe obsidian
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Moved Bubble Knight to melee builds in the guide

visual trellis
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I thought I just got invited by randoms lol

zealous wing
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lol

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kekw i love that you were just down

visual trellis
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I might have to go mid match if so I’m sorry

zealous wing
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no worries we'll probably die super quick anyway

royal totem
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lmao

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it's okay SuT will carry us

marble crater
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Maybe

royal totem
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i love how it says "Tertium Hive. Atoma Prime" as if there is some other place we're gonna fight

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there isn't

zealous wing
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the second hive city is being teased like no tomorrow

visual trellis
marble crater
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I can select a mission but nothing happens KEKW_ogryn

zealous wing
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FUCK we're cursed

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DISBAND AND REJOIN kekw

ripe obsidian
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Darktide might be borked right now? I can't join a friend's group

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Just failing

plucky flax
royal totem
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darktide is always borked lmao

ripe obsidian
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Now for the best part of the game: waiting for someone to host H40s

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3 more wins, then I can host myself

bright summit
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15 wins more than I can host myself

zealous wing
royal totem
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i probably contributed like 8 or so

zealous wing
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i died... 4 times i think

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all in the fight

royal totem
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so i didn't realize early on in the mission

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the default skill

marble crater
royal totem
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doesn't seem to lower peril by 50%

zealous wing
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its 10

royal totem
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yeah

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so i used it

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and insta overloaded again

zealous wing
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ive got assail now

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and can have a curio

royal totem
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i now dump 50% peril now

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BUT

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i can't get the thing that makes enemies burn

marble crater
ripe obsidian
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woo, H38. 2 more wins

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Fire for the fire gods

marble crater
zealous wing
royal totem
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i tried so hard T.T

white valley
marble crater
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I will do one more

zealous wing
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shall i do blender or tenderiser

royal totem
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sadly i need to go now T.T

marble crater
marble crater
zealous wing
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well ones a living blender the other is a living tenderiser

marble crater
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Whichever as long as it gets leveled

zealous wing
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itll get true leveled... but i do need tenderiser practice, its very new

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im struggling in damnation with him

marble crater
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So we will do auric

zealous wing
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i dont want mothman to suffer

marble crater
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He is lvl 30 as well, he will be fine

zealous wing
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the psyker isnt

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lvl 11 i believe

marble crater
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He switched too

zealous wing
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ah ok

marble crater
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@visual trellis I think you have the loading bug again

visual trellis
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Shit I didn’t see this mb

marble crater
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You do KEKW_ogryn now come back, last game for me

vernal temple
zealous wing
marble crater
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Time to stop

zealous wing
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see i need practice

marble crater
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@radiant frigate caught in 4k

marble crater
zealous wing
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crusher blob

radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
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Why wouldn't he invoke you

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You're invokeable

marble crater
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Because there is a Kat staregryn

zealous wing
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technically

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its a Ka

marble crater
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Shush

radiant frigate
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an imposter

marble crater
edgy heart
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heys thats what i do, i remember requesting the mod

strong gulch
edgy heart
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no, im saying i made the request that inspired the mod author to make it

strong gulch
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Oh gotcha.

edgy heart
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thats what i use

strong gulch
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Thanks for the request.

edgy heart
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pretty cool what drip it gets for me sometyimes

strong gulch
edgy heart
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i know mister e has a mod to change the colors of the text

strong gulch
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k thanks

serene gazelle
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what is a really good build on psyker im doing really bad with this class

edgy heart
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purgatus staff

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build is optional

royal totem
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Depends how you like playing

strong gulch
royal totem
serene gazelle
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I want the best one

strong gulch
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purg = inferno

it's a strong staff that scales with density

better options for low density difficulties.

strong gulch
royal totem
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^^^

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I had a good game on purg staff at lvl 17 though

marble crater
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Elektro is best (lie)

zealous wing
serene gazelle
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winning

zealous wing
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that right there is why youre losing, imma be honest

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you cant win if you dont know what youre doing

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well, i suppose you can, if your teammates know what they're doing

royal totem
zealous wing
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if you cant even decide if you want to be boss DPS, crowd control, specialist targeter... then youre lost until you do

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yup

royal totem
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And its how i win games

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Dont be like me

zealous wing
edgy heart
zealous wing
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i like carrying you,

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little fledgling

royal totem
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I like purge staff a lot

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But i like EK a lot too

edgy heart
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pretty braindead and pretty strong

zealous wing
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EK is my favourite stave, inferno is 2nd

royal totem
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Trauma is...ok in my book

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I rate purge and EK about the same on my scale

zealous wing
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i like ek more than purg enough to have taken my purg drip and given it to EK build

royal totem
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I do ek knife

edgy heart
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I do whatveer the randomizer wants me to do

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except guns

royal totem
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I think lil psyker desperately stabbing reaper is funny

strong gulch
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I know I've brought it up before, but that time that the randomizer rolled laspistol, devils claw, and smite durring the brute conscripts event still haunts me. The smyker kept following me and took away my only way to kill crushers. 😭

edgy heart
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smite? you got a tree randomizer too?

strong gulch
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Put the things in there and roll for tree.

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Fewer bad nodes to roll for now.

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Forcing one of those into a build was funny.

royal totem
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One day ill play with the mighty potato again

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i need to learn from Karien first

brittle galleon
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if i'm planning on running Smite, is it a bad idea to have an electrokinetic force staff? i dont know much but its rclick attack seems to be similar to smite

edgy heart
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very different

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smite is for aoe, surge staff is for single dmg

strong gulch
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EK and smite are fine to run together.

edgy heart
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yes

strong gulch
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Smiting constantly nonstop can be quite annoying to the team. So be aware.

edgy heart
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visually and gameplay wise

strong gulch
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lmao yes

edgy heart
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i hate smite

royal totem
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Makes my comp lagthis is a lie

strong gulch
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I forget if it was oggy chat or vet chat, but a long time ago I was trying to see what staff non-psykers preferred playing with.

EK being the most "ethical" staff for them lives in my brain.

royal totem
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I do need a better GPU though

zealous wing
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ive also seen many hate assail

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sadge

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but, less hate than smite

royal totem
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im an assail hater

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Stealing mah plasma gunner kills!

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Im trying to get the penance!!!@

edgy heart
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who and why hates assail

white sky
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I cant say ive ever seen anyone say they hate assail

edgy heart
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same

white sky
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Everyone ive ever seen talk about a psyker blitz they hate talks about smite

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And I never see brain burst come up

edgy heart
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whats there to hate about assail

white sky
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Positive or negative

white sky
edgy heart
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i guess

dense flume
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I imagine a scenario "oh a horde is coming, I'll go take care of that while the others finish dealing with the threat in front" and as soon as they get over over there and are about to slice some heads off pshpshpshpshpsh and now they feel useless

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In case you were looking for a random nobody's take on it...

brittle galleon
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if you dont mind me asking, why is smite disliked?

radiant frigate
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also low damage

brittle galleon
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smelly?

strong gulch
# brittle galleon if you dont mind me asking, why is smite disliked?

Smite can be a very strong tool. However...

Smite is often misused and has a big impact on other player's experiences. If it's used to perma stun enemies so people don't get to play and those enemies are CCed in a bad position or spread out or if you are slowing the team down by lagging behind just stunning stuff, people will leave the game, barrel you, not res you, etc. The CC also doesn't allow "on dodge" blessings and talents to function for you or your teammates. Parry is also out.

Because of the way Smite ticks and spreads, it's very good at getting the last bit of damage of an enemy's health even if other players did most of the damage. It also is an enabler for the rest of the psyker's kit and snowballs A LOT. So the way it scales in high density with little effort is absurd.

A lot of smite users also don't learn how to dodge or manage CC immune enemies.

A culture of lobby or mission dodging smykers has formed because of this.

radiant frigate
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ye olde "enter room hold smite until 83%+ then shriek and keep holding smite" combo that clears rooms by itself is also a thing

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extremely low effort

white valley
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Another matter is, does anyone ever want a smyker in their team instead of an inferno or trauma psyker? I certainly don't

brittle galleon
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okay but... like does it work? disregarding terms of effort and such, is smite effective?

ornate hamlet
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quite effective if used properly it can be a run saver

zealous wing
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at pausing things? yes, until you hit CC immune modifiers in havoc, or monsters

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using it to push things over? also very effective

white valley
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Effective, sure, but Voidblast staff is better if you really like CC

zealous wing
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but used poorly, its also very effective at making everyone hate you

ornate hamlet
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i was one of those psykers back in my first 30-40 hours lol

zealous wing
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i only used it to get the penance, and that was in private games with my spouse. never taken smite to pubs

ornate hamlet
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my dad put me on to smite so i tried it and thought i was palpatine

marble crater
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You are palpatine

zealous wing
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someone remind me to remove artificial latency, because i havent had mem leak crashes until i added it

edgy heart
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if by any chance someone has a bad pc, on top of hurting their eyes, youre probably smiting their fps as well

ornate hamlet
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I love playing the higher difficulties so that enemies can stand completely still

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It's the main reason for me to play them

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I want to get my point-and-click adventure itch scratched

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Darktide is just Monkey Island 2

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Thank you Lucasarts

edgy heart
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yeah i love when the enemies dont fight back, very interactive gameplay

royal totem
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If it lets me win certain modifiers id take a smyker though

patent mango
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imagine a mod that opens a youtube video for you to watch when you're smiting

fierce crest
patent mango
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true

fierce crest
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this is why you shoulnt pick psionics with smite

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stacking unethical practices

young breach
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Its October and I can’t buy a witch hat for my pysker, this is heresy

zealous wing
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wonder if they'll do something tbh

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do they ever have special sets for spooky time

serene gazelle
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is there any reason to use vending scriek instead of scriers gaze?

zealous wing
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id think the psyker skull mask qualifies

zealous wing
visual trellis
zealous wing
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:(

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wanna do some normal leveling @visual trellis ?

serene gazelle
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what is the shard throwing spell for? Horde clear?

patent mango
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yeah unless you have smth better for hordes

zealous wing
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horde clear, specialist targeting while clearing a horde with melee, peril generation, interrupting plasma gunners from firing, its very versatile

jovial juniper
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To throw at anything that isn't carapace

royal totem
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oh. hexis is still playing 😮

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how is hexis not asleep yet

fierce crest
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i call it horde thinning

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really nice for gunker since no gun horde clears like inferno or VB

zealous wing
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probably just did my last game tbh kek

serene gazelle
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isnt scriers gaze justa better version of the shreik

zealous wing
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if you feel shriek is only for quelling peril or saving yourself from overload, then yes, but they both do different things

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VERY different things

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shriek, especially with creeping flames, is massive AOE damage, while scriers is for combat

serene gazelle
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idk they both quel perill but gaze gives some buffs to you

zealous wing
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im recording a clip

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show not tell

jovial juniper
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Shrieks range is insane

serene gazelle
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so with creeping flames its a big aoe stun with soul fire damage?

zealous wing
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"stun" kekw

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i would call it a "horde delete" button

serene gazelle
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so its fus ro dah

zealous wing
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if it lit them on fire

serene gazelle
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that ones seems pretty good

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i still dont really understand the shard throwy ability. it seems like psyker has a lot of stuff to do the same thing

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staff is horde clear, shards is horde clear, shriek is horde clear

zealous wing
serene gazelle
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you could just shoot the guy tho

zealous wing
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that requires careful aiming before firing, not aiming after firing

serene gazelle
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and the shards seem kinda wimpy

languid pine
serene gazelle
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wait the shards follow your aim?

languid pine
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harassing specials whatever

zealous wing
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yes

languid pine
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yes

serene gazelle
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ah interesting

zealous wing
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shards have a ton of control

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if you want to hit something specific but not the thing next to it, you can do that too

serene gazelle
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it just seems like the main useage is just yeet a bunch through a crowd to chop them up

zealous wing
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ie, near a DH but not hit her

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its an alernate range option, especially lovely when your weapon doesnt 1-2 shot specialist

serene gazelle
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what is dh

zealous wing
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daemonhost

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besides, as a psyker, or any class, you HAVE to pick a blitz.

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if youre a gunker, BB doesnt make much sense, and neither does smite

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extra refilling bullets? yes please

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keeps the gun loaded in a CIVI maelstrom, use the shards on lesser things, save the gun for the monsters im there to kill

rancid jasper
# serene gazelle isnt scriers gaze justa better version of the shreik

Shriek lets you stack more soul blaze than you normally could from other soul blaze sources, which can deal insane damage with the weird exponential ish damage curve on soul blaze stacks if the enemies already have some stacks because when they get more the damage increases greatly

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With creeping flames that is

zealous wing
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also i think i like assail because not only is it fun, its also the most technical

zealous wing
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bb, point and click, smite, click and press w, assail, has extreme control if you want it

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none of the others have much skill in their learning curve

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you can get good at them, ye

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but assail feels more... more

rancid jasper
zealous wing
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its not random

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it follows your crosshair

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mostly

patent mango
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yeah but assail is a funny bouncy projectile

zealous wing
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you look at something, it goes there

patent mango
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nothing else is a funny bouncy projectile.........

royal totem
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FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

rancid jasper
royal totem
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I deranked cuz server kicked me out

zealous wing
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f

royal totem
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we were basically guaranteed to win that one

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i'm so mad

patent mango
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i think theres multiple active derank complaining posts in forum rn

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or there was last time i havent checked

royal totem
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good. needs more complaints

zealous wing
patent mango
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never enough derank complaining 🙏

royal totem
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to people who say "oh i did it even through all the crashes and such"

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i say

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it's nice you like suffering but......i don't

patent mango
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people being ok with pain and misery just cause they've gone through it is so weird

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ig they want more people to relate to but i'd rather it just be fixed always

royal totem
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same

serene gazelle
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so for hordes should i just thorw shards and just kinda guide them around to chop up the horde?

patent mango
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yeah you can do that

zealous wing
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i usually throw them in pairs, but yeah

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one two, quell while aiming, repeat

patent mango
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assail usage does depend on the rest of your kit though

zealous wing
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also true

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i have an FGS so assail for full horde clear seldom happens

patent mango
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dont need em to basic mob horde clear with greatsword for example

raw crown
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i got those blue shards ability for my psyker, is this the ability everyone uses?

patent mango
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i think its the most fun one so i always use it

zealous wing
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no but its popular for gunkers and meleekers

patent mango
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also its the most synergistic with right side that i play

zealous wing
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BB is the go-to for stavekers, specifically with KF subnode

raw crown
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im having trouble with the staves, what do i use them for? because those blue shards really do it all

patent mango
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well shards do not handle carapace at all

raw crown
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i got this lightning staff but it does less damage than a catachan light attack

patent mango
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ig inferno wouldnt either but the other 3 do it better

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is it that bad? oof

royal totem
raw crown
zealous wing
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i would guess the issue with your EK is, youre not built for it, its stats are poor, blessings/perks are wrong, etc

patent mango
patent mango
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warp splitting or the add ons are the big ones

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most people just take warp splitting so it hits more targets

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for cara i have no idea if rending would help i havent tried that myself

raw crown
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so if i dont like that staff do i just get a pistol

patent mango
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yeah

zealous wing
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depends on the build but yeah get a gun

patent mango
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hand cannon for cara should be decent with crit build

raw crown
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yea i was using the staff and i almost blew up in the easiest diff

patent mango
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psyker gameplay

raw crown
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the ui for the percentage is too low

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i cant see it when im locked in

patent mango
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probably resizeable with the custom hud mod if needed and on pc

stoic wagon
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hey yall just wrecked on havoc with purgation staff

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never use it till now

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is showstopper any good

serene gazelle
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psyker has no surivviabilitty

stoic wagon
patent mango
raw crown
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is toughness important for all psyker builds?

patent mango
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yea

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toughness is important for everyone tbh

stoic wagon
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wondering if one more rng with this much horde/elite density might help

raw crown
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i feel like a glass cannon but ig that will change when i level my character up more

patent mango
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i just think the other options are better as far as i can tell

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but it should still b funny idk

jovial juniper
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You kill everything
That's your survivability

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Also ignore half of DT mechanics

stoic wagon
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psyker also has "everything you do staggers"

raw crown
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whats a typical havoc psyker build

stoic wagon
raw crown
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for melee?

patent mango
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usually greatsword all right side talent tree

stoic wagon
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you're helping everyone ignore the stupid stuff, ranged scabs and moebian 21st

patent mango
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or bubble greatsword mostly right side

raw crown
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bubble greatsword?

stoic wagon
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saves lives

cold ivy
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i recommend deimos force sword (especially against rotten armor) cuz light -> heavy or push -> heavy both knock crushers down on weakspot hit

raw crown
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i only have blaze swords

patent mango
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i didnt like crushers falling into the horde personally

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it is nice for bulwarks though they're annoying anyways

cold ivy
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there's always more crushers to hit in the weakspot! deimos lets you juggle and kill multiple of them

raw crown
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good?

real merlin
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Coming back to psyker after a long LONG time away.

Lookin' at the inferno + venting shriek build. Have a duelling sword at the moment. Is Deimos the better option for peril generation?

jovial juniper
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If you're looking for a force sword to generate peril

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Illisi is what you want

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Just spam special

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Stroke your sword

real merlin
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Good to know. What are the other good options, in general?

Duelling sword is obv good for dealing with carapace, and I know it well. There a write up anywhere on the options and why people choose what? Search has been helpful for listing weapons, but less so for rationale

languid pine
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dueling sword for everything other than peril generation because atm its currently busted as fuck

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but if you're bored of the ds or just dont like it, you can use the force swords or the FGS

jovial juniper
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Knife incredible finesse weapon with tons of mobility

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Tactical Axe for a watered down version of knife, but pretty safe

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Shock Maul, Chain weapons and Devil's Claw aren't that used on psyker

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Although you can run dclaw for the kinetic deflection parry spam

patent mango
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i dont think dclaw is real

jovial juniper
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Force Greatsword is a generalist, it does everything

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But be mobile

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Heavy Sword kills everything short of carapace, also not that used by Psyker

real merlin
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guessing warp resist is the dump stat on all the force weapons?

patent mango
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yea

jovial juniper
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The Rashad Combat Axe is one of the best weapons out there

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Also not that used on Psyker

patent mango
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except voidstrike its an attention seeker so it dumps blast radius instead

real merlin
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I have a FGS from when it was introduced but ended up pivoting to another career and didn't ever put it through its paces

serene gazelle
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should i wait until im at high peril to use the shreik or is it not that important

patent mango
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its called resist a dobra in portuguese?

serene gazelle
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whats so good about blaze sword? is it jus high damage?

jovial juniper
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so yeah

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shriek past that

patent mango
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yea and the push attack is a strong push

serene gazelle
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but the special on blaze isnt really good? and whats best combo on blaze sword?

jovial juniper
patent mango
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do not use special on obscurus and deimos tbh

patent mango
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ig i switched to english right away

serene gazelle
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so the push is good? it seems like it does a lot of stagger so probably good

jovial juniper
patent mango
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yea its cool

jovial juniper
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For single target
Deimos light into heavy

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For light stab heavy stab

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If and I mean if the target survives

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It hits the ground hard

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For obscurus single target is heavy light light

serene gazelle
#

is heavy attack good or just spam light?

royal totem
#

and..........a second derank

#

i'm sooooooooo happy tonight

jovial juniper
stoic wagon
#

seir melk holding out on me on +3 stamina

patent mango
#

worst case scenario warp ghost exists now lmao

#

depends on build though ig

royal totem
#

i sarcastically joke, only Six can save me tonight.

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it's a joke cuz he can't save me from server crashes

patent mango
#

have you tried going up to fatshark and burning some incense for the servers

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maybe a prayer or 2

#

maybe they need to be exorcised if anything........

patent mango
#

i think fatshark has got a lot of those jokes due to derank

stoic wagon
#

you're locked in place for 1.5 secs while using it

#

not a great predicament in mobs

#

but its good at everything else

young cliff
#

question: for a Brain burst build, running both the fire staff nad Empiric shock would make an aoe attack that can also boost the BB? so if it hits a crusher conga all of them take more damage from the brain bursts?

serene gazelle
#

what does the blaze sword push do is it like soul fire and then the push attack is the stagger?

jovial juniper
#

The push is just normal ish push

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It split seas

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The Push Attack is a 9 meters single target stagger

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Can open bulwarks

young cliff
jovial juniper
#

Throw crushers off balance

young cliff
#

also trigger kinetic flayer

visual trellis
serene gazelle
#

psyker has like no toughness regen i die so much

strong gulch
#

They gen plenty of toughness, but your source has to meet what you're doing.

#

Most of it is over time.

real merlin
#

what are the deimos perks/blessings? Search is turning up old results

serene gazelle
#

whats the best staff

fierce crest
#

yes

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(inferno)

young cliff
#

Has the Electrok staff blessings have changed nowadays? are we running surge instead of warp flury?

young breach
fierce crest
young breach
#

Ya’ll are running staffs?

young cliff
fierce crest
#

not draining your teamates ammo is very powerful

young breach
#

I rarely use my gun

young cliff
#

that way the Rumblegryn and the Arby gunners can shoot as much as they want

#

is support at its finest

young breach
#

I play psyker like a zealot with magic

young cliff
royal totem
#

i won a game

#

amazing

young breach
#

I hate it when teammates steal my brain burst kill

#

I know the average dt player thinks “see heretic, kill heretic” which I do myself but its still annoying

jovial juniper
#

M2 should still be Nexus Flurry

young cliff
wind spruce
jovial juniper
#

The other you play the game normally

#

Oh wait

young breach
jovial juniper
#

You can skip channelled

#

Yeah nevermind

#

Oh Souldrinker is there

#

Oof

#

Still stands

#

"oh but Souldrinker is good"

#

On a M1 Scriers Surge build?

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Where your only source of Soulblaze is Perilous

#

Oh but you can skip Souldrinker

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And go

#

Wildfire

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💀

#

Yup still stands

ripe obsidian
#

I just played Shock Mine arby for the first time. This blitz is dumb

stoic wagon
#

does purgation staff get stacked if i do carapace and flak

#

or should i just do like maniac and unyielding

#

hell should i get unarmoured and flak since it's really killing swarms

royal totem
#

i won two

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so i'm back up to 21

#

but it's still frustrating. if i didn't derank to a dc i'd be at 22 🙁

brittle galleon
#

another noob question: what exactly is the difference between staff types? is it just their secondary attack that varies?

royal totem
#

no their primary also varies too

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for example electrokinetic has a high crit rate on its primary fire and its secondary is an electrocution

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Voidblast has the same primary fire as electrokinetic but without the extra crit iirc. while its secondary is basically an aoe explosion in an area with infinite cleave

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Purgation staff the primary fire is a small wave of fire with high stagger. it doesn't go as far as EK or Voidblast primary though. its secondary is basically flamethrower. you charge it up and its a short beam of fire with infinite cleave

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Voidstrike.......idfk cuz it's kinda bad and also i kinda hate it

brittle galleon
#

yea i just got voidstrike which prompted my question since it seems like its primary is the same as the secondary mostly?

royal totem
#

it is not

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the secondary deals more damage and is slower

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iirc

#

it's really not worth using. it's a bad staff right now

#

and it's not just me saying it. its damage numbers and characteristics of it just aren't good

#

not enough cleave and the secondary is also slow iirc

#

i think also charge time too long? something like that

#

i wish there was somebody smarter than me to answer your questions but ......

stoic wagon
#

voidblast kills things and knocks them down

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if you want a no bullshit staff

brittle galleon
royal totem
#

to be accurate, it doesn't just kill everything in one blast. the damage is most at center and is less the further from center. it can knock over trash in one hit but maulers and bulwarks and crushers and reapers take more than one

royal totem
#

in non-havoc electrokinetic is really good but it falls off in havoc cuz too much armor (i'm guessing also not fast enough horde clear)

#

if you want to play Electrokinetic staff you'll want to pair it with Venting Shriek because it generates a lot of peril. If you take the left keystone with in fire reborn, you'll be able to get shriek down to about 6.6 seconds in hectic combat situations. which is pretty good

#

Inferno can go well with bubble just cuz it doesn't generate as much peril. but inferno+shriek is pretty fucking great

#

on a note completely unrelated to staffs, i always lose whenever i have a taunt Ogryn 🙁

stoic wagon
#

electrokinetic gets you like 5 secondaries but it feels like less cuz it's also not guarantee stagger or kill

royal totem
#

it's pretty fast at killing certain elites if you spec into it

#

my electrokinetic is specced for killing with primary fire.

solid pond
winged creek
royal totem
#

Very weird

stoic wagon
#

i don't get people going into havoc power outage games and not bothering to tell people to grab flashlight

royal totem
#

Dunno. I do it without a flashlight

stoic wagon
#

bet

obtuse tundra
#

Best blessings for trauma?

verbal thistle
#

Nexus blaze or flurry rending

stoic wagon
#

hey i will bring my infantry autogun as zealot

#

take one for the team

solid pond
#

if you're playing high enough a torch isn't going to be the reason you lose, and if you lose lower than that, the torch wasn't the reason why

#

I.e torch not needed

royal totem
#

It was very odd earlier. Had some questionable loadouts on my havoc team but it went...super well

solid pond
#

this is also in psyker class, just bring inferno or smite and don't let anyone see

royal totem
#

Smyker lighting 😏

stoic wagon
#

debating on smite and headburst

#

cuz sometimes you just don't have team members that shoot that far

solid pond
#

bring both

royal totem
#

Headburst with kinetic flayer

solid pond
#

kinetic flayer with smite

royal totem
#

Imagine how cool that would be lmao

solid pond
#

be neat if there was things that changed functionality of a blitz based on playstyle, like removing the ability to manually brain burst things, but getting a lower cooldown on KF

royal totem
#

I almost never bb anything except with kf procs

stoic wagon
#

kinetic flayer technically triggers on any warp ability

#

even block hand-sand

plucky flax
#

Any attack that does damage

deft stump
solid pond
jovial geyser
#

anyway to make the inferno staff flames smaller? can barely see with it

solid pond
#

there is a mod that turns them off

deft stump
solid pond
#

wut

deft stump
#

Less enemies in general.

#

Which also helps my antique CPU.

#

I have a ninth gen i7.

deft stump
#

Look, new PC ex.

solid pond
weary idol
#

I miss custom flames

#

vastly superior mod to this

#

but deprecated and doesn't get updated anymore

#

so it just doesn't work :/

ripe obsidian
#

I should probably put a "Build to use while leveling" build in the guide

wind spruce
strong gulch
wind spruce
#

Although on the other hand there is, it's just quietude then battle med

#

The second lot of blue talents are just as if not more rough for new players to navigate lmao

cold ivy
#

i guess it also depends on how rich you are, if i were starting a new psyker character with 10m dockets and 100k plasteel/diamantine the leveling process would probably look a little different from "psyker is your first character on a fresh save"

#

cuz you can just sacrifice spam to mastery 20, get a good staff and use that

wind spruce
#

Yeah fair you'd want to write one for new players and one for new psykers

cold ivy
#

whereas the true poverty approach is probably crutching on assail

wind spruce
#

They aren't learning anything using it

#

Absolutely a BB pick

cold ivy
#

i used nothing but assail until i hit 30, but i was both very poor (this was in the dark era before deterministic perks/blessings) and also pretty experienced by having built/leveled all other classes to 30 before psyker

wind spruce
#

I'd also be getting new players to pick nodes like channelled force to get them to think about using both of a staffs attacks, which attacks are warp and which aren't and also understanding that psyker isn't just about warp shenanigans

wind spruce
cold ivy
#

yeah it's the "i've already learned my lesson, just get me to 30 asap" build

robust violet
#

What should I do to combat ragers? They're beating my ass sideways.

wind spruce
#

Lots and lots of stagger options

#

What weapons are you using

robust violet
#

At the moment the force greatsword and voidstrike staff.

wind spruce
#

Ok so with FGS your warp slice special attacks will stagger them. You can also push attack them to make them fall over. Or you can just hit them on the head without getting hit yourself if you get your timing right

#

If you're on pc download the creature spawner mod and fight them in the psykhanium until you get used to their attack patterns

cold ivy
#

blue stimmed rager is the stuff of my nightmares... -200% stagger applied and only 20% damage taken, i don't think anything short of forced knockdown (abilities like shout/maybe explosive nades?) or stun (smite/stunstorm?) can slow them down

tulip kettle
#

you can also just push em with FGS

#

sry you said that

robust violet
#

I'm on the PlayStation. I'm only level 13 at the moment so I'm sure I'll get better with time. But I have identified that the ragers especially beat my ass.

wind spruce
tulip kettle
wind spruce
#

Assail is also nuts against ragers

#

Staggers the poopoo out of them

tulip kettle
#

generally at lvl 13 you want to be relying on assail

#

most of the time for most of the things

wind spruce
#

Not if you're brand new to the game

tulip kettle
#

if youre lvl 13 and psyker is your first char then you want to learn how to press the dodge and melee attack button i guess

wind spruce
#

Yeah

#

Ain't gonna learn shit with assail, as based as it is

tulip kettle
#

the problem is that psyker just sucks pre 30

#

and staffs suck doubly so because 200 power rating staves are not the one

#

20 mastery or not

#

also hi everyone i have returned from the wilderness

#

got up early today just to binge the tide

robust violet
#

What weapon should I use for my ranged then?

tulip kettle
#

a gun

#

the staffs suck at low power because having low warp res + low quell + low damage makes them just feel awful

#

revolver can be good for killing that one thing that needs to die, shotguns also

#

recon las can be great

#

but really where you are dude just try to focus on learning the core melee mechanics of the game

#

ALSO, unrelated

#

wtf is this toughness gen on my beloved now

#

i feel literally unkillable

wind spruce
#

Yup

tulip kettle
#

and souldrinker actually accessible?

#

fuckin based

wind spruce
#

Gets extra silly with ghost and all the damage reduction talents

wraith sphinx
#

Say goodbye to chip damage

wind spruce
#

Quietude already being great and getting buffed by 60% pogryn

tulip kettle
#

there was one moment where i fucked up and got surrounded by ragers just then

#

and im just like, oh wait no im a space wizard

#

zap

#

they also did something with DLSS because the game looks way too good

wind spruce
#

A swing from a rager (because it's actually two hits) used to fuck you up a bit, now it does like 3 damage to me lmao

tulip kettle
#

everything is so crisp

plucky flax
#

Pick soulstealer quietude mettle and souldrinker then add warp ghost on top

#

Funny toughness regen with burga

tulip kettle
#

yeah it feels kinda bonkers tbh

#

is the only way to die getting flattened by a crusher?

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

yeah essence harvest is nutty

plucky flax
#

My build has no more spare points

wind spruce
#

No

summer prairie
#

Need to run essence harvest some time just to see uptime

wind spruce
#

But I'm just talking about meme stacking toughness regen

tulip kettle
#

i think its just up all the time tbh

#

feels like it for me

#

idk what the new hotness is for builds yet i just threw a few together

plucky flax
#

Maybe today I will win vigil rot armour

wraith sphinx
plucky flax
#

Vigil seems to spawn boss at the start always and with a bunch of shooters

#

Silo flashback

tulip kettle
#

i did notice im not 2 bonking crushers with my FGS now

wraith sphinx
#

Good thing you came with an anti ranged build right?

#

Right?

wind spruce
#

Essence harvest is the equivalent of generating or quelling 15% toughness with quietude. Seems bad tbh, but as you say syllo it'd be interesting to see the uptime on high havoc

tulip kettle
wind spruce
plucky flax
#

Essence harvest can stack with warp charges

ripe obsidian
#

I did the thing

plucky flax
#

So depending on how fast you gain them

wraith sphinx
tulip kettle
#

i mean killing one elite / special every 5 secs isnt hard

wind spruce
#

Do you use mods dom

tulip kettle
#

yeah

wind spruce
wraith sphinx
wind spruce
#

Send me gooning material I mean data

tulip kettle
#

aight bet

wraith sphinx
#

I was too tired to continue

tulip kettle
#

any new mods i should look out for?

#

i saw that crysrtalline will one

wind spruce
#

I'm sure a few of the 187 mods @plucky flax runs are new

tulip kettle
#

but i actually dont know if i cba to make a meme jihadker build

plucky flax
#

No new mods but you can try surge surge meme

wind spruce
ripe obsidian
#

To my shame, I got my last 3 havoc rank ups on support Arby instead of Psyker. The teams I joined already had Inferno psykers, and Voidblast bores me. And I am not confident enough with EK to use that when I am tryharding

plucky flax
#

Pick souldrinker for free 5% crit chance and don't run any soulblaze talent

summer prairie
#

I'm starting to question whether warp battery and the warp charges on kill nodes are worth taking

wind spruce
summer prairie
#

on any build

tulip kettle
#

i think warp battery is good for my blazing shriek build

plucky flax
#

Why it's cdr for shriek

tulip kettle
#

especially with the PC nerfs

summer prairie
#

6 warp charges is mostly just a waste and you probably get more warp charges from elite/special kills than anything

tulip kettle
#

sorry PA

ripe obsidian
#

On non-Soulblaze builds, I was struggling a lot to get to 6 charges.

summer prairie
#

two nodes for slightly more cdr for shriek, eh

wind spruce
#

Who's got an uptime screenshot from h40 with warp charges

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

But with burga more shriek is more damage

#

A lot more

summer prairie
#

but you will still shriek a lot

#

will have to test

tulip kettle
#

i think before the extra 2 was not nearly as worth

#

but now i think it is

#

idk tho me big noob agen feels_sad

plucky flax
#

Yeah but extra -3s per for a 40 mins game comes out to a lot

summer prairie
#

what -3s per

plucky flax
#

Per ability cast

summer prairie
#

you don't usually have 6 stacks when you shriek

tulip kettle
#

ya u do

wind spruce
plucky flax
#

Why not in a big mixed horde fight

tulip kettle
#

especially if also running IFR

summer prairie
#

I don't have data for not running them, I could see how many shrieks per minute with power di

summer prairie
#

that doesn't tell much about how frequently you had 6 stacks when you shrieked

ripe obsidian
#

I was responding to Irosk's request

wind spruce
summer prairie
#

warp battery isn't worth because you shriek so much yes

#

except for the cdr

#

possibly

wind spruce
#

Well yeah

tulip kettle
#

yeah i think that was always the case

wind spruce
#

That's the whole point

tulip kettle
#

you have very little uptime at 5 or 6 stacks

#

because as soon as you get there you are shrieking again

#

but i also think now with the PA nerfs that extra cuple secs CDR is more valuable

#

but again me big noob again

#

i just ran this, tell me why its horrible and what i should change

wind spruce
ripe obsidian
#

Assuming the CDR aura and 3x CDR trinkets:

6 charges is a 12.87 cooldown on Shriek

4 charges is 16.38 seconds on Shriek

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

because melee dmg good no?

tulip kettle
#

and because i wanted to see if i can 2 shot curshers

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

with the MK6

plucky flax
#

Why does mine look different

wind spruce
#

We can't all be you agent

#

Exceptionalism

summer prairie
#

that was just one of your runs, I saw a different one where your average was way lower. Lower is better actually

ripe obsidian
# tulip kettle

Change every node. Pick everything you didn't. Inverse your build and it might be serviceable

plucky flax
#

Ye it's an old pic I got already on discord

#

Need to check a few runs i did last night

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

oh it isnt i was using blazing trauma and it felt pretty good

#

but only H30

#

i am big noob now

ripe obsidian
wind spruce
#

Soon to be red headed step child of psyker tree

tulip kettle
#

potato replaced shockedpepe

plucky flax
#

Rip beans

#

Rip clad

#

May they rest in peace.

ripe obsidian
#

I think In Fire Reborn is definitely worth it. I will often Shriek and get 4-6 stacks back immediately from Creeping Flames. Psychic Vampire sucks a lot.

#

Warp Battery is fine. I don't think it's an amazing, world-breaking talent. But it's not bad.

tulip kettle
#

that was my experience

ripe obsidian
#

I could see dropping Warp Battery in non-Soulblaze builds

tulip kettle
#

IFR is really good and so i get warp battery by default

summer prairie
#

I don't know what I get my stacks from with elites constantly dying

ripe obsidian
#

I view IFR as insurance that my stacks will get high quickly

#

I mean, my Shriek is often on a 6.5 second cooldown

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

i think i could drop essence harvest for quietitude

tulip kettle
#

but essence harvest was definitely making me unkillable so i think its basically a sidegrade

#

as like i said, its literally always up

wind spruce
#

Did you just generate and then quell 15% peril? Congrats, quietude just doubled essence harvests output per second

tulip kettle
#

because of ifr

#

yeah maybe quietitude would generate more actually and works with shriek

#

but tbh as the 10% melee node seems pointless i could just drop that for it instead

languid pine
# tulip kettle

I would drop attck speed + essence harvest and outright switch to the +10% CDR since it gives you more dps in the long run with venting shriek stacks

tulip kettle
#

you mean seers presence?

languid pine
#

Yea I forgot the name

tulip kettle
#

i would but its trauma not burga

tulip kettle
#

that node is actually kind of useful

languid pine
#

Drop the bottom right melee damage node for warp ghost

tulip kettle
#

nah that needs me to drop 2 nodes

#

for ghost

#

and i get hit so little anyway

languid pine
#

Right om fumb

#

Wait

wind spruce
ripe obsidian
#

I might honestly drop Warp Battery on my Rending Trauma build. Looking at my uptimes.

languid pine
tulip kettle
#

no it isnt

languid pine
#

Its one node

wind spruce
#

Yes it is its one node from Warp rider

tulip kettle
#

look at the tree i posted

#

so i need to take the -10% peril res, then warp ghost

languid pine
#

We are clearly looking at the tree

tulip kettle
#

thats 2 points

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

dropping 10% melee gives me 1 point

wind spruce
#

They added pathing

tulip kettle
#

OH SHIT

#

you right

wind spruce
#

Kekw

tulip kettle
#

still

#

i dont think i need ghost tbh

wind spruce
#

Ghost is based dude

tulip kettle
#

yeah it seems great

wind spruce
#

No reason not to run it on any build you're maintaining high peril

tulip kettle
#

but i already feel like im just not dying

languid pine
#

Ghost is free toughness and stamina

wind spruce
#

Don't die even harder

tulip kettle
#

if anything i want more damage output

wraith sphinx
#

I love bark jost

ripe obsidian
wraith sphinx
summer prairie
#

If you don't have a bunch of toughness talent nodes already, warp ghost is less value in terms of additional toughness than just taking a toughness gen node

tulip kettle
#

warp ghost gives dmg output?

#

in what way?

#

i already have rider

wraith sphinx
#

Think before you type

#

What does wg do

tulip kettle
#

.....

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

gives me toughness gen and reduces passive qulling

#

idk about passive quelling its already not doing anything

#

i have no issues maintaining peril

wraith sphinx
#

Ok dude

tulip kettle
#

and 2 stam is w/e

languid pine
#

warp rider scales damage with peril, warp ghost removes passive quell which lets you stay at high peril constantly

tulip kettle
#

again

languid pine
#

which means you're getting high warp rider uptime

tulip kettle
#

i have no issues with maintaining high peril

languid pine
#

and extra damage

iron flame
#

Yea i had been using that build, feels so good

tulip kettle
#

and i think yeah sure swap harvest for quietitude to get even more toughness gen that i already wasnt using

#

for a melee build i think the tree would look very different but tbh im just looking to get even more dmg if i can

#

i think the main options would be shock or force but they were always poop before and i dont see them working well with blaze trauma

wraith sphinx
#

Oh you are making a staff build

#

I see

wind spruce
wraith sphinx
#

Yeah warp ghost is not that useful then

wraith sphinx
#

I keep thinking us greatswordsmen are legion here

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

i do use FGS with this

wraith sphinx
tulip kettle
#

but bubble knight is bubble knight i havent even made a build for that yet

wind spruce
#

Oh also dom

tulip kettle
#

i have been wondering the wilderness of real life for the past month

wind spruce
#

Dream is very good

#

Like really good

tulip kettle
#

yeah that looks kind of really good

strong gulch
#

Dom is here

tulip kettle
#

hey beans ❤️

strong gulch
#

Hi

tulip kettle
#

got up early today to binge tide for the next 12 hours

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

how does it interact exactly with being at just below critical?

strong gulch
wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

say im at 90% peril and i eat a solid smack from summat

#

will it still absorb the full dmg?

wind spruce
#

You still get full value even if you're at 95% and would've gained 20% from the attack

summer prairie
#

It gives full dr and stops at 97%

tulip kettle
#

awesome

#

okay yeah that seems real good then

ripe obsidian
wind spruce
#

Skill issue

tulip kettle
#

i could see it happening if i wasnt running shriek

wind spruce
tulip kettle
#

very easily

ripe obsidian
#

Be at like 80-90% Peril charging RMB > pox bomber tags me slightly > suddenly 97% peril, then 100% in 0.3 seconds from RMB charge > die

wind spruce
#

Just use a mod that stops you casting when you're at 100% whatthefuck_heresy whatthefuck_heresy whatthefuck_heresy

quartz flare
#

Wouldn't it be fun if the electro staff arcs more/less depending on body mass? like 4-6 times on regular trash mobs acting like a mini smite.
4-regular
5-fully charged or crit
6-fully charged + crit

ripe obsidian
#

I'd say Just a Dream has killed me... 4-5 times?

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What's more difficult is when something tags you in a tight horde, knocks you to 97%, and you can't find space to quell because you can't use your staff to clear space

tulip kettle
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ok im just gonna take a quick look at six's bubble knight build

plucky flax
tulip kettle
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*stolen bubble knight build

quartz flare
tulip kettle
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they really need to make the staff special like the special on sienna scythe

ripe obsidian
tulip kettle
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i see no quick shards and i cri

wind spruce
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probably has the ranged damage node SMDH my head

quartz flare
tulip kettle
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nah its true aim

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i drop true aim for quick shards

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ezpz

quartz flare
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Also pls buff buff electro staff base dmg and aginst carapace. wearing armor that consists metal shouldn't protct you from electricity.

tulip kettle
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dont disagree with that take

quartz flare
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I searched the wiki and it clearly said carapace armor has metal in it.

plucky flax
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Maybe it's non conducting metal

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You know warp magic and all

tulip kettle
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all the warp stone

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kill the man things yes-yes

quartz flare
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every metal is efficiently conductive tho.

tulip kettle
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is not metal

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is warpstone

quartz flare
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darn it

quartz flare
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Anyways the electro m1 really needs some buffs either being less peril or more damage.

quartz flare
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Not that it's bad

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I just want it to be more powerful

wind spruce
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its already stronk af

tulip kettle
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take empyric shock i guess

plucky flax
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Right click needs help more atm

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Elites buff too op

wind spruce
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literally decimates everything but cara and unyielding and can do adeqiately against bosses if youre taking ES

quartz flare
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My wish for it would be a high peril & high damage anti-carapcae staff.

tulip kettle
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can the event roll without vent/lights out?

quartz flare
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I don't want it to be a powerful tazer, I want it to be a literal thunderbolt that decimates stronger enemies like the plasma.

wind spruce
tulip kettle
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🤮

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torture it is then

tight saddle
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I recently played with someone Macroing left click with electro staff and venting shriek just steamrolling through an auric maelstrom not letting us interact with enemies so it was a walking simulator for us.

I thought this was fixed or removed?

tulip kettle
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oh yeah, i also noticed "swap weapon" in skitarius is broken @plucky flax , any fixes?

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like it actually swaps my weapon sometimes now

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which is bad, obviously

ripe obsidian
summer prairie
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Are you sure he was macroing, maybe just lmb with autofire. It's 2 shots per second still

quartz flare
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speaking of which, why is the primary for an "electro" staff a warp bolt anyways. it shuld be a small arc discharge.

summer prairie
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And more with surge obviously

tight saddle
white valley
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Where fireball staff

ripe obsidian
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VT2

white valley
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Fatshark we need VT2 staves in DT pls

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Fireball, Coruscation

quartz flare
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I hate the current electro M1

plucky flax
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Im drinking a phat can of redbull im ready for some games

summer prairie
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I'll play some

plucky flax
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I'll play blaze trauma.

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Even though it does no damage against crushers.

summer prairie
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the rending node is somewhat decent for blaze trauma if you can afford it

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since it helps flak and cara

iron flame
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Is there a list of which perks i should take for each weapons ?

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leveling my gun / force sword