psyker-class

[wind spruce]

you take both

[pale prairie]

All DR seems to be. Look syllogism posted a video of psykhanium rager with blue stim in pox gas and it was fucking invincible

[jovial juniper]

Tzeentch twins

[white valley]

Weird

[plucky flax]

Shred is best

[wind spruce]

por que no los dos

[dusk timber]

Shrest

[pale prairie]

Crit maxing

[patent mango]

oh is it jsut that one? lol

[proper osprey]

My issue is enemies having double buffs, ex) purple rotten crusher behind more rotten crushers and maulers, Arby can’t pin it, it’s healing everything around it so your dos is non existent, you might as well get a trauma or smite psyker

[patent mango]

i've heard about it befo being in gam

[wind spruce]

87.5% crit babbbyyy

[pale prairie]

“He is more crit than man now….”

[summer prairie]

DR being multiplicative only applies to the player, enemy DR may in fact lower attack ADMs which can result in them taking no damage

[pale prairie]

Okay good to know

[proper osprey]

I might as well speed run havoc

[pale prairie]

Shroudfield?

[proper osprey]

Just have all book zealots and take turns

[proper osprey]

Map dependent

[marble crater]

Good thing we have the new shriek node

[proper osprey]

If archivum yeah

I like to speedrun that map

[patent mango]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥 🔥 i dont even know what that one is c alled

[pale prairie]

There needs to be a governor on some of these modifiers. Cause stimmed havoc enemies are nuts enough sometimes if you aren’t taking Le Meta builds

[pale prairie]

Warp rupture

It’s so fire

But it doesn’t cause fire

[pale prairie]

Typical tacaxe behavior

[proper osprey]

Did they ever increase hitmass and such in weaves in vt2?

[hasty smelt]

I've found more people using Smite after the update, I also find it very useful, is this a smoothbrain-take or is it actually good?

[summer prairie]

a youtuber made a video

[wind spruce]

smite has always been ridiculously good

[proper osprey]

It depends, i don’t like it personally I hate it

[wind spruce]

that has never not been the case

[patent mango]

in weaves they just destroyed your computer with a hatchet

[wraith sphinx]

yeah that was the evil hatchetmancer

[white valley]

In that case, brittleness is the goat I guess

[patent mango]

evil wicked hatchetmancer

[white valley]

Smoothbrain, smite is always bad, use trauma staff instead

[wraith sphinx]

there has been an explosion in psyker players in general

[rancid jasper]

Smite is good if you use it in the right way

[zealous wing]

dont do this to me zyro

i cant take it :(

[hasty smelt]

Hexis, it's goated when you play Rolling Steel with pubbies.

[pale prairie]

I think with all the DR nodes in addition to YouTube more people are doing the smite

[zealous wing]

it has its use cases but so few players know how to use it properly that you risk death if you even have it and another player notices

[white valley]

There is no universe where I would rather have a smyker than an inferno psyker or a trauma psyker

[rancid jasper]

Also isn't charged strike baseline smite now?

[jovial juniper]

Smite has always been good
It's just boring

[plucky flax]

Wanna play in like 2hours

[jovial juniper]

No

That's Lightning Storm

[patent mango]

charged strike is decent nowadays

[rancid jasper]

Ahh ok

[patent mango]

like actually

[pale prairie]

You mean the extra +1 jump? Yes but they also slightly increased peril cost

[zealous wing]

its a bug apparently

[summer prairie]

No, it would have to be in a bit over 4 hours

[patent mango]

not as good as assail though lol

[wind spruce]

@pale prairie run with full crit FGS. its not close to optimal but its funny

[hasty smelt]

B-boring!? But how? It feels like raw dopamine to explode a crowd of brains, or holding up a shield and watch other players kill biggums that you hold up.

[plucky flax]

Order from above

You must do it

[zealous wing]

its a bug that its so strong

[plucky flax]

Or get stared at

[wind spruce]

it shits on assail lol

[summer prairie]

I'll do it in 4 hours

[rancid jasper]

No I just genuinely thought it was charged strike. No name mixing up, just ignorance.

[wind spruce]

theres literally nothing that can touch smite in the entire game

[patent mango]

naw

[jovial juniper]

Hold 2 buttons for 20 minutes

[patent mango]

i mean charged strike specifically

i forget to use smite ever if i have it equipped

[wind spruce]

it CCs the whole map you chunguses

[patent mango]

unless theres 30 bulwarks

then i do it cause frick that

[pale prairie]

Blue stims and rampaging…..

[plucky flax]

Explain your incompetent to commander karien

[summer prairie]

I will

[hasty smelt]

:<

[jovial juniper]

[plucky flax]

I pray for your soul

[jovial juniper]

It's good

Just boring

For everyone involved

[patent mango]

look im just saying if smite opened up subway surfers on the side it'd be enjoyable

[wind spruce]

broken @jovial juniper

but yes

[rancid jasper]

Hot take imo purge is boring too for the same reasons.

[wind spruce]

KING SHIT

purg is lame af

[zealous wing]

its use cases are, armour blob freezing when its ridiculous, protecting someone doing a res or task, or throwing things to the ground

[hasty smelt]

OK, this makes sense though, if it ruins it for other players I'd consider it bad.

[patent mango]

not hot take

purge is easily the most boring staff that one definitely needs family guy instead

[plucky flax]

Tru

[jovial juniper]

Fatshark seal of approval
If it's good, it's boring

[rancid jasper]

Nah I'd go as far as to say it needs Minecraft parkour, family guy and subway surfers to even be entertaining

[zealous wing]

and yeah smite freezes the game so anyone who has talents involving dodging? nullified

[jovial juniper]

[zealous wing]

anyone wants to kill things that fight back? nullified

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/b1ADJ.gif

[rancid jasper]

Fgs

Is the exception

[zealous wing]

seeing the smyker stand next to a yellow barrel? nullified

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-kinda-kindof-kind-of-gif-5168321

Boring ahh dodges

[pale prairie]

Counterpoint it allows people to get super high yellow number and post here unga bunga

[hasty smelt]

This is the build I run sub 20 Havoc with:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0061d8d-19da-4235-9a7a-893c000f9df3/mind-bunker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[patent mango]

people still chasing vt2 green circles 😨

[white valley]

Death is the best CC and smite delivers little of it

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/always-have-been-always-will-be-tracy-jordan-30rock-forever-and-ever-now-and-forever-gif-21884305

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/rP3vOw

[jovial juniper]

That's why you go EP smite and kill every chaff in 2 seconds

Ragers in 8

But ultimately don't worry about it

[rancid jasper]

Stacking every single damage increase possible on smite is always fun for 2 seconds

[patent mango]

man i was so jolly with the first 1.5s of that video

[white valley]

This is not impressive lmao

[wind spruce]

yeah youre right killing 20 ragers in less than 10s is so shit

and the bulwarks in like 20

[patent mango]

its less impressive more uh like game breaking

[zealous wing]

zero skill involved, its not impressive

[white valley]

Inferno would do it faster lmao

[jovial juniper]

My PC!
Aaaaaaaaaaaa!

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-gif-5985161365119532609

[white valley]

Also you're taking scrier's to enable this

[zealous wing]

also, the 1 bruiser sneaking up behind you was forgotten

[white valley]

Which does very little for smite, the only thing it does is extend the channel

[wind spruce]

bruh you're clearly not up to date on shit

[white valley]

Barely increases your damage since smite cannot crit nor hit weakspots

[wind spruce]

scriers is THE smite build now

i hate it and dont play it

[white valley]

I am, I have had these scrier's smykers in my team and they're awful

[wind spruce]

but thats the lay of the land

[jovial juniper]

What's the issue with using your ability

[zealous wing]

they like the free casting of warp unbound because they're scared to fight anything

[white valley]

All they do is stun shit and contribute awful damage for a psyker

[quartz barn]

Hacks

[jovial juniper]

That's like using inferno but no creeping shriek

[wind spruce]

i will out damage you just using scriers smite and you on anything but inferno or blaze trauma

[quartz barn]

Cant use those on console therefore bad

[white valley]

Bubble inferno easily deals more damage than SG Smite

[wind spruce]

thats besides the point lmfao

[jovial juniper]

Ok then

[wind spruce]

inferno is busted too

and smite ccs the whole fkn map

[cosmic cobalt]

inferno doesn't need shriek

[zealous wing]

i outdamaged a scrier smyker recently as a chorus zealot, so thats probably havoc specific numbers for you irosk

[quartz barn]

This outdamages everything

[white valley]

No, it does not outdamage shriek inferno lol

[zealous wing]

its easy to farm damage numbers when the enemies regen

[summer prairie]

not really, you can easily get outdamaged by some other classes if you are playing purg bubble

if it's not a healing map

[jovial juniper]

Oh but you gotta use shriek for that

No no no no

Can't use ability

That's bad

[quartz barn]

Tell that to my h40 teams...

[jovial juniper]

[wind spruce]

remove bubble remove inferno remove smite

dont even replace them

[summer prairie]

purg farms damage if some people on your team are doing/have less damage focused builds

[wind spruce]

game is so much better

[white valley]

Trauma is better than smite and I will die on this hill

[quartz barn]

We're all gunker now

[quartz barn]

No hill to die on when everyone agrees

[zealous wing]

honestly, if they removed the bubble node and left it a wall shield, that would be perfect compromise

[pale prairie]

Irosk wants to play VT2 so bad

[cosmic cobalt]

wall shield lmao

[white valley]

Apparently not

[wind spruce]

i yearn for the mines

[zealous wing]

ive been so tempted whenever im in a havoc if someone says "he's a psyker so he'll have bubble" just grab the wall shields instead so they THINK i have bubble

[quartz barn]

But what about the screeching bell

[jovial juniper]

Walls are lovely

[quartz barn]

Speaking of vt2

Where are the character specific intros for each mission in dt

Even if there was only 1 per character that rarely activated itd still be peak

[wraith sphinx]

so true

gunker is now cool and everyone is doing it...

[pale prairie]

Wait….

[quartz barn]

Just outgunker the rest by taking all the ammo

[pale prairie]

Does that mean nobody is special?

[quartz barn]

Meleeker

[wraith sphinx]

yeah I've unironically been meleekering now instead

my friends still question my blitz choice for it but idc it's fun af

[fathom adder]

No

[wind spruce]

Send build big boi

[pale prairie]

What blitz?

[royal totem]

Im still on the staff side

[wind spruce]

I've been running meleeker with EK

Much fun

[royal totem]

While i acknowledge meleeker is viable and good, its just not me

[jovial juniper]

Based

[wraith sphinx]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff45845-e1cc-4b1b-9341-33815857c7ca/brainsplosion-gun-psyker-a-new-dawn-csgo-knife-surfer

[wraith sphinx]

🤯

[pale prairie]

Waaaaait a minute. This isn’t nearly enough meleeker

[wraith sphinx]

what do you mean

[pale prairie]

Looks nice though

[wraith sphinx]

it has almost every melee related talent available

[pale prairie]

The no warpsplitting and no MM

Almost

[wraith sphinx]

Why would I use mm with brain burst

[wind spruce]

hes got nothing to really proc MM

[patent steeple]

what about Anticipation as FGS meleeker?

[wind spruce]

would have to use FGS special

and warp splitting isnt needed outside of havoc

imo @wraith sphinx only questionable choice is no quietude

[wraith sphinx]

Quietude with gaze that gives you replenishing toughness feels pointless

I'm already basically immune to chip damage

[wind spruce]

yeah you're stacked with defense

but im compelled to point out that the toughness regen from scriers is minimal af

and quietude does work with scriers + bcob

[jovial juniper]

Anticipation is pretty whatever

+1 dodge is ok

Lingering is whatever

[pale prairie]

Eh I like it because on FGS it means I can melee duel ragers and take no damage

[jovial juniper]

Or you could do that

Without it

[pale prairie]

I’ve tried…. Much more work

[wind spruce]

i melee duel ragers and just let them hit me bc they do like 2 chip damage and then i instantly regen all my toughness anyway

[jovial juniper]

See

Doable

[pale prairie]

Ah I see so run face first into lawnmower blades

Very zealot

[wraith sphinx]

I melee duel ragers but then they cough on me and now I'm sick 🙁

[pale prairie]

So much for perfectionist….

[jovial juniper]

What

Dueling Ragers without anticipation

Yeah that's

Very perfectionist

[pale prairie]

Advocating taking chip damage?

[gray juniper]

Which games are the most toxic communities?

[jovial juniper]

Well I'm a martyrdom main

[pale prairie]

LoL, Dota2 whichever games Perfectionist plays

[wraith sphinx]

oh yeah I caught a sibling spreading anti perfectionism propaganda

look

[patent steeple]

yeah, I run Quietude on all builds, but as FGS meleeker I don't even take soulstealer like I do with my staff builds... (can't afford soulstealer on that build, and there are other node options for that point with my meleeker build, like Immaterial or Lightning Speed...)

[gray juniper]

That game looks so campy. What’s the story behind it?

[wind spruce]

oh yeah definitely no soulstealer without a staff

[pale prairie]

Which one?

[gray juniper]

Dota

[jovial juniper]

It's isometric deadlock

[pale prairie]

some smart modders made a bunch of fun games with Warcraft 3 engine. Like bloodbowl and such. Then someone said what if I make a game with 3 lanes with towers and it’s Warcraft 3 map and you play only as heroes

[gray juniper]

I’m actually thinking games at large are suffering from bleed over of the gta players infecting other games as they wait for their precious gta 6 to come out. GTA is like a containment zone for certain type of video game player

[pale prairie]

Then Steam said. THIS COULD MAKE LOTS OF MONEY

[pale prairie]

You can miss in deadlock….also 6 players per team

[jovial juniper]

You can (partially) deny creep score in deadlock

[gray juniper]

It’s kind of crazy how some of the worst spawning pools of people have come from the apex of just a few game mods

[jovial juniper]

Just like in dota

[wraith sphinx]

this is true but I wanted to skip quietude because it felt so safe and boring compared to warp expenditure

I wanted to try something different

[jovial juniper]

[wraith sphinx]

same reason I'm using bb

[gray juniper]

Arma is an ok game but the spinoff fans are deranged people I wouldn’t want my kids to run into in public

[wraith sphinx]

I wanted to take a break from assail

[wind spruce]

understandable

[jovial juniper]

That's about the only thing I know about dota

💀

[pale prairie]

To be fair that covers a lot of gamers…..

[wind spruce]

ive been playing without it too and its reinvigorated me

[pale prairie]

Not the most socially well adjusted group

[wind spruce]

its too strong in so many situations

[wraith sphinx]

You get it then

[wind spruce]

you end up just not meleeing half the elites in the game

[gray juniper]

I’m really talking about rust and dayz ofc

[wind spruce]

bc assail is so efficient

[gray juniper]

I’ve seen rust videos and know nothing but assholes exist there

[white sky]

Personally I think anyone willing to military larp with a bootcamp is insane

[wraith sphinx]

I already had a bb gunker build pre patch that I loved to play to mix things up but it was a barely workable gimmick

[patent mango]

psyker is actually a melee class

[wraith sphinx]

now it's great 😄

[wind spruce]

all of my youtube uploads are BB columnus gunker from over a year ago haha

we've come so far since then

[jovial juniper]

@/maxwellsterling

[wraith sphinx]

that's awesome 🔥

[gray juniper]

You mean those private “pay for the experience” camps?

[patent mango]

@ornate hamlet

[jovial juniper]

[wraith sphinx]

man to think I was ambivalent on fgs when it came out

now I can't stop using it

[fathom adder]

Never understood the appeal of day Z. Played it for a bit when it was new, and all we did was crawl everywhere looking for loot, and every 60-90 minutes either shoot someone who never saw us or get shot by someone we never saw

[patent mango]

i counted the days for that thing to come out

[little orchid]

should I sink a point into Mettle or Warp Ghost? Playing around with the flame staff

[white sky]

Nah I mean the Arma rps when they make you participate in video game bootcamp for 2 weeks and then make up a chain of command tbh, but yes those people are also insane.

[wraith sphinx]

most of the appeal was manufactured by youtubers doing awesome but staged gameplay situations

[wind spruce]

@wraith sphinx this with FGS and EK (butr barely use EK) is my fun time atm

[gray juniper]

I totally misunderstood what it was and gave it a try last week. It’s an idiotic game because playing it is a fruitless waste of time and that community is psychopathic

[cosmic cobalt]

dayz lol

[gray juniper]

Lmao. I didn’t know some people do that. Ngl I could see the appeal. Idk about ACTUALLY taking two weeks to get through it. I don’t know about that at all. That’s on the ridiculous side

[wraith sphinx]

how do you feel about taking cstrike and or enfeeble and spamming heavy melee

[wind spruce]

its meh

but it is funny if you put wrath and savage sweep on a chainsword lmao

[cosmic cobalt]

you don't even need savage sweep

the dot kill them anyway

[wind spruce]

oop i meant whatever the other cleave blessing is called

you can hit 5 maulers at once lmao

[wraith sphinx]

oh the infinite cleave combo

I know what you mean but I can't remember the name either

[wind spruce]

yeah

chainsword doesnt have damage fall off like other melee weapons

(on weakspot and crit)

so it absolutely chews even on like 12th target

[cosmic cobalt]

iirc charged strike chainsword is like the fastest mixed horde clear in the game atm

except if there cara

[wind spruce]

yeah definitely

[marble crater]

SMYKER

[wind spruce]

chainsword has always had cooked horde clear but now with EP charged strike its silly

still a shit build though

[cosmic cobalt]

you can build it relatively normal

[wind spruce]

ok to be more specific

just running DD is still better

[white sky]

I too enjoy a good bit of Darkest Dungeon

[wraith sphinx]

I just can't enjoy chain weapons myself

I'd rather use a dclaw than a csword for hordeclear

[zealous wing]

i'd rather use only the ogryn slap to get through a maelstrom than use a chain weapon

or the combat knife punch

[wind spruce]

for left click stagger and i had charged strike at one point

[zealous wing]

the sound on accidental carapace, or intentional carapace, is the fucking worst, and i choose to never hear it again

[wind spruce]

love teaching true survivors that you can just jump repeatedly while in barrel fire and you take no damage

why is this so unknown

[wind spruce]

oh yeah for sure

but then how do u kill cara

[deft stump]

It's gambly when lagging lul.

[wind spruce]

true

[wraith sphinx]

I make it everyone else's problem or use zarona

[marsh badger]

this look fun and prob RMB built EK assuming not that youd use it much. usually my builds similar to this always take assail for mm stacks

[wraith sphinx]

I don't run dclaw in havocs obviously

[wind spruce]

nah im running surge on EK

[wind spruce]

unbased

[radiant frigate]

running dclaw voluntarily at any point is unbased

[wind spruce]

you have almost 80% crit with scriers and warp nexus

its nutty

[wraith sphinx]

unbased nothing I HAVE to use fgs 😤

[radiant frigate]

more fgs propaganda

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-take-the-time-off-work-christian-bale-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-workaholics-gif-18161302

I can't take time off FGS

[wind spruce]

this is true

but are you running shred AND riposte

because that is the truth

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/usduc-usdc-unstable-unstable-coin-gif-2420285730721807043

[wraith sphinx]

No I hate dodge blessings

I'm just cool and different like that

[icy yarrow]

Eyyyy fire waking dummyhost has been fixed 😄

Neat

[ripe obsidian]

"Fixed an issue where Psyker’s Soulblaze from Perilous Combustion and Venting Shriek could be applied to un-aggroed Daemonhosts, waking them up."

This is a good thing, yeah. I accidentally woke a daemonhost in an H40 last night and caused a wipe

[strong gulch]

Yay. KF fix.

[ornate hamlet]

FACTUAL STATEMENT, BESTIe

[royal totem]

Any change to the smite subnode?

[patent mango]

greatsword gaming

[strong gulch]

Didn't see anything in the hotfix notes. Will have to test to find out.

[ripe obsidian]

@verbal thistle it looks like the blockade sandwich was, in fact, bugged. It wasn't sending the behind part, only the ahead part. Kuli says it was patched today.

[summer prairie]

I saw that too

[ripe obsidian]

Well, now we shall be punished accordingly for backing up

[wraith sphinx]

which is worse though?

or are they of the same intensity

I try to back up when twins appear to avoid pulling whatever else could spawn behind them

[royal totem]

Only in havoc right?

[verbal thistle]

That would explain a few things

Had some friends get confused

Blockade is easily avoidable if you keep 1 player in forward progression

Which should be the case in always every engagement

[thorn cedar]

Stealth Zealot: say no more fam

[verbal thistle]

To catch specials and keep horde off the people fighting a boss

[prisma niche]

I cannot get the soulflame staff to work
It just doesn't kill what's right in front of me fast enough, I get surrounded, have to swap to my melee, which only makes the getting overrun thing worse

[royal totem]

Provs a matter of positioning.

[prisma niche]

I do not see how positioning is going to fix the "I've been spraying this scab for a full 4 seconds and he's still alive" issue

[wraith sphinx]

Doesn't that cause more bosses to spawn?

[verbal thistle]

Nope

Hard to explain in text but

[wraith sphinx]

Like specifically if one person goes ahead of the group in a mission

[verbal thistle]

Think of a progress bar

The furthest the bar has reached is "furthest progression". This is calculated for blockade. If the ENTIRE team goes back 50 meters from that point, then blockade. But if you have at least 1 person standing where the team progressed the furthest. It canceled out blockade

At no cost of spawning anything else

[zealous wing]

what stats/perks/blessings/build do you have?

[royal totem]

Flame staff isnt that fast at killing things. Its just it can kill lots of things. You can try spraying then dipping and letti g enemies burn to death so youre not surrounded. Also choke points make it harder for enemy to surround you etc. Or at least thats my experience

[wraith sphinx]

oh, I see. 50 meters seems pretty generous

[prisma niche]

Yeah that's the thing
I can't kill lots of things if I can't kill what's right in front of me

[prisma niche]

Warp resistance dump stat, bonus damage to unarmored and infested, Blaze away and warp nexus

[zealous wing]

and also yeah, positioning, but also sometimes just a matter of learning the limitations of what your weapons can and cant do, yet another reason i take FGS on all my staves, since im a gunker main and need a backup plan

[strong gulch]

change perks to flak + unyielding / crit chance

[verbal thistle]

Yes in normal cases, but don't forget it's fatshark

Expect bugs

[thorn cedar]

SUIT UP
PUNCH IN
PUNCH OUT
NONSTOP

[verbal thistle]

Some staircases don't count for progressive

[royal totem]

Are you...only pointing it at that one enemy and firing? Cuz i tend to do a sweep with my flames to hit every enemy and then let them burn. Rinse and repeat.

[verbal thistle]

So when you go to a different floor, it calculates the enemy pathing. And goes the long way

Which is often more then 50M

[wraith sphinx]

of course

[verbal thistle]

Excise vault and power matrix are a good example

[prisma niche]

5% crit chance is going to help more than 25% damage?

[strong gulch]

Inferno takes time. Having the correct perks helps. Gotta keep moving and use LMB for stagger if stuck or cornered.

[wraith sphinx]

excise vault 😨

[plucky flax]

Make sure you have blaze away.

[prisma niche]

I'm sweeping, the enemies closest to me get too close because they still haven't died, and I'm forced to switch to my melee so I don't get surrounded entirely

[royal totem]

If they get too close just LMB

[prisma niche]

I DO have blaze away

[royal totem]

And dodge back?

I mean LMB has high stagger

[zealous wing]

very high

[strong gulch]

Flak is the big one. Maniacs already die fast enough so the only real options are crits or unyielding for second perk. Crit apply 2 SB stacks instead of 1 and help farm EE procs. Unielding helps with repaers, bulwarks, and monsters.

[fathom adder]

As long as it's not Silo Cluster or Ledgedestium Gloriana

[mental rock]

Crits with inferno staff apply double burn stacks. Don't think it's worth a perk though

[prisma niche]

I have blaze sword for carapace enemies

[zealous wing]

yeah but thats carapace

not flak

[strong gulch]

Flak is not cara. Where most of your DoT damage hits is flak.

[royal totem]

Teammates...choke points...bubble or shriek...lmb stagger...you have resources and should use them.

[strong gulch]

Also sweep more aggressively and possibly earlier. Dodging back, to the side, LMB stagger, Using melee to reposition, etc.

[prisma niche]

In general assume my teammates aren't in the same room, because even if I try to stay right next to one of them the other two keep going off to lala land

[marble crater]

@strong gulchdid you play incognito with one of your psykers in EU earlier? Someone tried to barrel people the entire mission

[royal totem]

Oh. The people better than me are here. Ill shut up with my unworthy opinions now

[strong gulch]

Avoid full charging RMB on inferno too.

[royal totem]

And.. thats ur big problem.

[zealous wing]

stop it

[strong gulch]

sry it was me

[ripe obsidian]

Korrekt

[zealous wing]

youre fine nemui

[prisma niche]

Like
Actually
I am actively trying to follow them regardless of where the actual objective is
They STILL manage to split up in at least three different directions

[zealous wing]

all opinions are welcome here ||except smykers'||

[royal totem]

Im only a true level 100 psyker ._.

[zealous wing]

true level means jack shit

[cold ivy]

i charge very little whenever spraying inferno (usually i start shooting at 25% or less), the trick is to sweep your camera from side to side while blowing your load so everything gets doused by a little bit of fire. just getting tagged by fire staggers all the little dudes and gives you time to do it all over again

[wind spruce]

yeah but 80% crit

[royal totem]

Find the person you like most and stick with them. I know sometimes its shitty but being by yourself is generally bad

[strong gulch]

I trust your opinion on psyker over my opinion on zealot. I think it's 136 or something (over years).

[ripe obsidian]

~45% or lower keeps Blaze Away stacks up

[cold ivy]

yeah that's another nice benefit!

[zealous wing]

having been the straggler psyker dealing with everything on stave, its harder than you think to stick with a random

[wraith sphinx]

That's cool but I'm still a devoted hater

[royal totem]

Ohhh i have opinions on zealot alright lmao

[wraith sphinx]

(I'll godroll a new FGS tomorrow and try it out)

[strong gulch]

lmao

[cold ivy]

also you can run a force sword (or greatsword?) - the push attack on those is pretty good so if something is right on top of you, you can swap to your melee, push attack and dodge backwards, then swap to your staff and hose them down again

[royal totem]

Ive been the straggler psyker too. But i handle myself.

[zealous wing]

handleable, yes, its very much a trial by fire situation though, especially depending on the difficulty

[royal totem]

Agreed

[ripe obsidian]

Now that force sword pushes don't pop bursters anymore, I use it way more

[zealous wing]

and, player experience is also a huge factor

[ripe obsidian]

Shove everything away

[ripe obsidian]

Fire, you say?

[zealous wing]

fun fact even when KF could trigger it, i still used push attack on bursters

it never triggered for me

[strong gulch]

wtf

[wind spruce]

Why do u needa God roll one

[ripe obsidian]

I did as well, but usually only when KF was on cooldown

[royal totem]

But....in fire reborn 😏

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[cold ivy]

i like deimos as a melee for infernus because the light -> heavy or push attack -> heavy combos are good single target damage for crushers/mutants and safe because of how much stagger they do

[strong gulch]

When PAing the burster becomes the only thing that exists.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/focus-commitment-will-gif-19916882

[royal totem]

Damnnn

[wind spruce]

Always staring down that tunnel

[wraith sphinx]

because... I like using godrolled weapons

oh

I'm too lazy to switch blessings back and forth on a single weapon

[strong gulch]

I didn't even learn a lesson and starting doing the same thing immediately.

[wraith sphinx]

I'm so overflowing with resources I just set up different builds on different weaponsw

[marble crater]

Instead of switching weapons, Potato switches psykers

[royal totem]

I confess....

[wind spruce]

Fair

I'm far too lazy to do that

[royal totem]

I dun like playing auric with strangers

[zealous wing]

me either

[marble crater]

[zealous wing]

its so shit

damnation is the highest i comfortably go with full randoms

[wraith sphinx]

I play maelstroms with randoms

[strong gulch]

You'd be proud of the game. I tried to make a new psyker but the game crashed when I hit the confirm button.

[wraith sphinx]

it's fun

[royal totem]

Imagine how it feels having to clutch cuz ur teaammates are dead cuz they zerg rushed

[mental rock]

The strangers are the best part though

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/weak-weakness-disgusts-me-disgusted-disgusting-gif-17171223

[mental rock]

They are like an extra difficulty modifier

[zealous wing]

true level 1700 xbox psyker

[wraith sphinx]

they are unpredictable and they are refreshing

[marble crater]

Good job fatshark

[marble crater]

I don't think I am even lvl 1000 yet

[royal totem]

STRANGER DANGER!

[zealous wing]

hah

if only you could see what i see

log on rq and ill take a screenshot cuz i dont actually remember your tlvl

[marble crater]

Sure

[ripe obsidian]

Agreed. And Deimos H2 knocks over Crushers on headshot.

[marble crater]

I will log in with my second psyker

[zealous wing]

lmao

[ripe obsidian]

I need to change my second Psyker's voice to Seer

[leaden garnet]

Savant for I is the best to be

[zealous wing]

i should probably do that for my 2nd psyker as well, he's just a duplicate of psyker 1 for the twin hardmode fight, but now the campaign replay is a thing

[royal totem]

i still think im the noobiest psyker here. Still blow myself up sometimes smh

[zealous wing]

k it was someone else i was thinkin of 1700

maybe dom

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[zealous wing]

im catching up

[wind spruce]

i almost am

like 1670 or something

[proper osprey]

Love my randoms

[marble crater]

Another week and you will have more

[proper osprey]

They make my run every run

[zealous wing]

my issue with randoms is, the jerks

[wind spruce]

hardly run into any of them tbh

theres more on lower difficulties

[proper osprey]

You must become the carry

[ripe obsidian]

Meanwhile my Psyker is only level, like, 500

[zealous wing]

i can handle newbies, people who dont know where to go, that sort of thing, but the jerks who just wander off intentionally, do dumb shit, blow up barrels intentionally with teammates nearby, shoot bursters, shit that should be learned by malice not to do

[ripe obsidian]

I went 1W/8L with randoms yesterday. =|

[strong gulch]

I should trying actually hitting my next level goal. I want 1234 on beans.

I also want to level StopMoaningSefoni to lvl 2 if Ican.

[zealous wing]

then theres the actual assholes who , its hard to explain, but they have a vibe on how their playing

like, everything they do is teetering on the edge of asshole, but they're literally on the line

[royal totem]

I get shouted at by randoms a lot in vc in auric 🙁

[prisma niche]

Why would you ask sefoni to do such a thing

[zealous wing]

havent had that happen recently, havent played public aurics with 3 randos in a while

[strong gulch]

because my brain extra stops

[royal totem]

Therefore i must be the bad one

[zealous wing]

no

only assholes use the VC for scolding, except to scold the other assholes in vc

[prisma niche]

I had a zealot player that was all happy and goofy until we got fucked

Then it was toxic screaming in VC

[ripe obsidian]

Voice chat is a plague

[prisma niche]

There are exactly two people that use VC
Roleplayers and toxic assholes

[zealous wing]

honestly...

the thing that almost made me not ever play darktide again, was so dumb

[strong gulch]

VC with randoms is such a gamble. It's usually bad.

[zealous wing]

like, a week into having the game, i was on vet, i think sedition, still learning the game, and some asshole in comms was "do you even know how to play the game?" and i just... didnt wanna deal with it

[white sky]

I use VC to make calls when things get real, real chaotic tbh

I do not want to speak to anyone in random queue otherwise tho

[royal totem]

Im just waiting for my siblings to realize im the unskilled sibling (somehow people dont realize yetl)

[white sky]

Or to explain what a "martyrs skull" is

[royal totem]

I think its a curse games have VC built in

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh voice chat in H40 randoms is good like 95% of the time. People mostly don't talk

[leaden garnet]

Sometines, kamikaze just works

[royal totem]

Dun have crystalline will

[leaden garnet]

Oh. Shame.

[prisma niche]

Weirdly enough I had that expierience on vermintide

[leaden garnet]

Tbh I am not gonna get past auruc missions as psyker prolly

[zealous wing]

instead of comms they should have a more indepth ingame communication via character lines, like how for the emperor /vacuum capsule does. "healing here" "help" "i'll stay here" shit like that

[royal totem]

Believe sibling.

[cold ivy]

psyker is really easy and strong as long as everything is going right, so if you learn how to handle situations that have gone wrong you'll be covered!

[zealous wing]

i want a "that was dumb" line

[leaden garnet]

My build is a difficult thing to get me through. I use assail with a... braced autogun and powersword, methinks

[cold ivy]

and the best way to learn how to handle those is to play a bunch and wait for things to inevitably go wrong

[leaden garnet]

Bubble shield as my support

[zealous wing]

ah

rip

braced autogun F

[leaden garnet]

So.

Everything.

[strong gulch]

But there are nice moments like the time this British(?) woman delightfully took command of the whole group and everyone happily followed her.

Another time someone was about the say something but got cut off. It it's, "... Ahh! Plasma fuckers!" (Then he died )

Another was with a new player on zealot. Relic blade has just dropped and he said, "This sword fucks!!" right before dying. (That what I call the sword now).

But rare moments.

VC

[cold ivy]

every time you lose, ask yourself "what could i have done to prevent the loss?" then try to do that next time the sameish situation shows up

[prisma niche]

The issue with that being it isn't always obvious

[wind spruce]

@summer prairie

[leaden garnet]

I find the worst issue i have is speedrunners

[cold ivy]

usually you start with what kills you and work backwards from there

[leaden garnet]

Because I rely a good bit on synthesis with my teams

Assail, and support fire, not soloing hordes

[prisma niche]

Well yeah that's what the whole game is based around
People with main character syndrome will always be an issue in 4-player co-op games

[marble crater]

I block all speedrunners

[leaden garnet]

Because every other vet or arbites tries to just run ahead or gets distracted

[royal totem]

I could have always been good enough to solo the mission and things would have gone better

[leaden garnet]

And yes

That and not as much focusing fire on the worst of specialists like gunners

[cold ivy]

a lot of the time it goes something like "something did damage to me and downed me" -> "could i have dodged that, staggered it or not been there?" -> if yes, there's your answer, otherwise: "why was taking damage inevitable there? was there no space? were we not killing fast enough? were we fighting in a bad spot?"

then you can fix those

the idea is to get something actionable out of your failure

[royal totem]

I assume every lose is my fault

... dont assume my mentality plzm its not healtht

[leaden garnet]

AKA a big main why I do assail. To grt distant gunners
With the Bob and weave, I find not getting swallowed in a horde where my dodging capabilities fail me in longer range enemies is key

Sticking to open ground, but somewhere with still good cover

Maybe a spawn lockdown

[ripe obsidian]

It was the same in VT2. Cataclysm players were fine, but people below that got more and more frustrated

Nothing to lose on Cataclysm, same as H40

Not farming weapons, not farming wins

Just playing the game for fun

But people with something to lose get angry

[royal totem]

People alwauys get angy

[ripe obsidian]

I've also generally found that people at higher levels of play are better about admitting fault

Like, I was 100% the reason for two of my losses last night, and I apologized

[prisma niche]

Zealot goes alone
Zealot gets surrounded and dies
I risk my ass to save him
He ragequits while I'm trying to kill the 6 crushers he aggro'd

[royal totem]

Never save zealots

Theyre always trying to fulfill their slayer oaths

[ripe obsidian]

People in H40 also don't ragequit nearly as much. :D

Going back to Auric is a trip. Like 7 players over the course of a game

[prisma niche]

Because people don't make it to H40 with a weak mindset

[zealous wing]

OH before i forget to ask again

scoreboard related

is there a way to have it not show up at the end of a mission but still have it saved so i can check it if i want to

[winged creek]

so funny enough in the zealot guide one of their rules is never risk your ass to save a teammate, 1 dead player is better than 2

[prisma niche]

Hogwash
No man left behind

[royal totem]

Never become victim number 2

[strong gulch]

Higher skill gameplay does mean that you can handle more. It also means preventing things from becoming a problem and unfucking problems too. Things become more obviously your fault because: "I could have done x.", "I shouldn't have been there anyways.", etc.

[pale prairie]

No deranking for cataclysm though

[white valley]

This is a huge compoment of getting better in the first place

[royal totem]

You mean 12 players

[pale prairie]

Because of the loss tracking mechanic I assume?

[wind spruce]

Might be better off asking on the modding server

[white valley]

You cannot improve if you think you played perfectly and made no mistakes

[strong gulch]

Good question and no clue. I know you can do the opposite. If not, it might be worth asking if that can be added. IDK where the best place to do that is. Perhaps the modding discord.

[wraith sphinx]

as much as I rib on havoc it really was the thing that made me not shit at the game

[patent mango]

when does havoc lock in and stop being terrible itself

[white valley]

In havoc you gotta lock in and make strategic decisions often

[zealous wing]

40 i guess

[wind spruce]

That's why I never accept criticism

[royal totem]

Sometimes...letting your teammate die though is the correct answer

[wraith sphinx]

people were crying about shooters being lethal on 20s havocs during 1.0 I instead found it exhilarating and it made me feel like I was thinking about what I was doing for the first time

[strong gulch]

A lot of the time it's the correct answer.

[graceful arch]

By sometimes you mean a lot of the time.

[wraith sphinx]

One time I saw a teammate go down without killing a single member of a big horde so I turned around and walked away instead of trying to get through the entirety of it

he got mad and quit lmao

[white valley]

If your teammate is in fire surrounded by crushers...yeah you probably gotta let them die

[verbal thistle]

For the average player this makes a lot of sense

It's a good habit to get into

[graceful arch]

If someone dies extremely out of position and you don't have any teamates to cover a revive chances are you are now 1 member down.

[verbal thistle]

As the person who put that there it's a good idea

[strong gulch]

Forcing a save on harder difficulties causes chain deaths pretty often.

[zealous wing]

if its in an area like the first event in gloriana, where you can get them super easy, it IS the answer

[white valley]

Although Havoc also heavily rewards getting fast resses

[verbal thistle]

Respawn locations exist for a reason

[wraith sphinx]

this is why running wound curios if you're not a marty zealot is a huge red flag

[white valley]

Because being 1 player down in Havoc is a huge risk for wiping

[wraith sphinx]

if you go down, you have to expect you will die there

[patent mango]

nope

crystalline WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥

[wraith sphinx]

my fault og

[patent mango]

MARTYDOM IS SPREADING

😨

[strong gulch]

I swear it this game's version of the sack rat.

[royal totem]

The first person to go down means the team is down 25%. The next person means the remaining team is down 33% . Or 50% in total

[pale prairie]

I don’t think that’s a good trait…..

[wraith sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLRrA90n_0

[strong gulch]

YOur teammate is the shiny.

[wind spruce]

good one

[static canopy]

Hello fellow psykers 🗿

I just got the game but I’ve already decided on the class I’ll main

[zealous wing]

it might be hell, but youll get good really fast

[patent mango]

we have a greatsword 🙏

[graceful arch]

But what about bfs?

[pale prairie]

Glad you find it….acceptable

[strong gulch]

Hi

[marble crater]

meanwhile I get hit with 🤽‍♂️ , life is not fair

[pale prairie]

Whoa Command and Conquer reference?!?

[marble crater]

Yeah that was expected

[pale prairie]

Germans can’t be funny

[royal totem]

Besides, id im dead i get to go read. Or drink water. Or eat chips

[wraith sphinx]

sut is our token funny german

[marble crater]

We can

[pale prairie]

Damn with two words you made me laugh out loud

I stand corrected

[zealous wing]

depending on region, a few of us could also lend squad help should it be requested i know several wont bother going below auric or damnation difficulty, but i tend to take people under my wing often and am more than happy to do any difficulty, just holler :D

[strong gulch]

I find Sut funny. (what I laugh at is inconsistent and questionable; this is turning into an insult)

[graceful arch]

Waterpole react this individual

[royal totem]

I only play uprising

[pale prairie]

Oh that explains why some people just stand there after I risk my life and tendonitis to rez them

[royal totem]

Malice too hard 😏

[summer prairie]

Nice

[zealous wing]

i know thats bullshit

you play sedition

[marble crater]

I will take it

[graceful arch]

Sedition goes crazy man

[pale prairie]

Hehehehehehe

[plucky flax]

Spain but without the S. 5 mil

[royal totem]

Interrogator Rannick only trusts me with sedition

[strong gulch]

I've died there.

[pale prairie]

I can go below auric but I will just be suuuuuper loner

[pale prairie]

I am shocked utterly shocked you got 5 mill on fire staff.

/s

[marble crater]

I don't know how to play on empty maps, I get careless/overconfident and die

[pale prairie]

Gardens, fart armor?

[plucky flax]

Gloriana is just too hard.

Purple and 21st.

No rot even.

But there were a lot of armours and team ahd low damage.

[pale prairie]

This explains it actually

[strong gulch]

5

[plucky flax]

If I played bubble there'd be even worse damage.

[pale prairie]

Anybody get yeeted off of catwalk?

[plucky flax]

No but I exploded 2 times.

[strong gulch]

Me when I leave the havoc grind.

[pale prairie]

Like perils of the warp???

[plucky flax]

Ye

[pale prairie]

Holy shit

That was pain

[plucky flax]

Was too busy using staff.

[pale prairie]

I figured it must be bad when you shriek every 6.5 sec

[zealous wing]

@royal totem

[royal totem]

?

[zealous wing]

even h40 pro explodes

[royal totem]

Yeah but its h40

I explode in damnation

[plucky flax]

Tru average warp charges stack was 2.8

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

I explode

[plucky flax]

I smashed f a lot.

[royal totem]

It isnt the same

[zealous wing]

his shriek refills every 6 seconds

[verbal thistle]

Marty psyker is real

[pale prairie]

Oh my god that is so much shrieking

[strong gulch]

They didn't fix CW did they?

[zealous wing]

not that i saw in the logs

[verbal thistle]

Haven't looked or tested

From the notes

[plucky flax]

I am deflated.

[verbal thistle]

Try DN

[plucky flax]

Never playing gloriana again.

[verbal thistle]

It helps

[pale prairie]

Bruh this is more evidence for double psyker meta

[plucky flax]

Middle event too hard.

[strong gulch]

Sin just died somewhere.

[pale prairie]

Who the fuck loves that map?

[verbal thistle]

Me

[pale prairie]

I think it’s “new” which is nice

[verbal thistle]

My 2nd fav map

[pale prairie]

But so many open areas with no cover

[verbal thistle]

It looks amazing and jaw dropping in lights out. The gameplay is funny with pubs

Plus it has some funny speedrunning strats

[zealous wing]

ah i have a clip to edit on gloriana

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah it looks great. But man does it cause teams to just split like a banana

[oak breach]

How's the staff damage vs bosses nowadays? Call me crazy but it's always felt like spamming Voidstrike altfire never did all that much to bosses

[zealous wing]

playing oggy with a friend, and he barreled us both off the cliff as soon as we joined

[strong gulch]

Gloriana is @hearty wolf 's H40 map.

[static canopy]

Will do commander 🗿

[plucky flax]

Because voidstrike is really bad.

[static canopy]

Thank you for your kind offer

[pale prairie]

My brother in Christ. Voidstrike has fallen far from its glory days

[plucky flax]

God be with you.

[pale prairie]

Inferno (soulblaze stacks) and EK do good boss damage (especially with Ogryn/monstrosity talent)

[oak breach]

Awww, really?

[pale prairie]

He isn’t here or else Voidstrike would be better

[zealous wing]

its fun, but, bad :(

[strong gulch]

RIP VS. It's deader than ever.

[plucky flax]

Elites hp buff is voidstrike nerf.

[rapid steeple]

I remember the broken voidstrike days…..

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-stop-hes-already-dead-gif-15192144

[plucky flax]

Even worse 1 shot potential now.

[pale prairie]

They removed true aim being able to proc surge multiple times. Add in the hp crawl of enemies and it’s RMB can cleave like 4 poxwalkers on higher difficulties

[rapid steeple]

Oh how it sings to me…

[zealous wing]

oh yeah @royal totem did you finish the event? if not, they extended it for the fix to gunners

[plucky flax]

Maybe gloriana is when it's infinite smite time.

[pale prairie]

And they have been working on talent trees not weapons lately and are terrified of making inferno or trauma stronger through talents so voidstrike and EK to a lesser extent just languish

[strong gulch]

I knew they would.

calssic

[summer prairie]

dual smite psyker meta

[hearty wolf]

Yes

I've had darktide uninstalled for months

Do I reinstall

[zealous wing]

it makes sense they would, the gunners were a clusterfuck, still kinda are but they're much better now

[rapid steeple]

Is smite still completely nullified by the red buffed enemies

[royal totem]

Auyeah finished it

[strong gulch]

Tree rework.

[hearty wolf]

Which tree

[wind spruce]

quick hyper aggro auric where i was 2up for the first 10 min

[zealous wing]

psyker, vet, zealot

[hearty wolf]

Oh THREE?

Community opinions on them?

[wind spruce]

(but i have skissues with shred)

[zealous wing]

and smol arby nerf

[strong gulch]

Psyker zealot vet

balancing on oggy and arby

[marble crater]

✋

[pale prairie]

Zealot from ground up, vet heavily reworked. Psyker slightly moved around and a few talents added

[zealous wing]

loner deleted

[verbal thistle]

And mega. Buffed

[strong gulch]

Psyker good

idk about there's

i hear positive things

[zealous wing]

oh yeah he missed the whole suipsyker train we did

[pale prairie]

More like balancing on oggy and tiny baby nerd for arbites

[marble crater]

Hi Sin, for how many missions will you return this time?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/one-michael-tick-tick-boom-top-one-first-gif-23270640

[hearty wolf]

Depends if I ask for team and if I get ignored 30 times in a row 😭

[strong gulch]

They just have to carry a baby.

wait... it is me

[wraith sphinx]

da baby

lesgoo

[strong gulch]

New havoc season.

[pale prairie]

Nah it was like toughness and 5% damage on EO and 5% damage on a different talent that’s kind of mutually exclusive

[marble crater]

You are in Britain so you should be familiar with pubs

[royal totem]

@zealous wing back home tmrrw night

[pale prairie]

You barrelmancer

[hearty wolf]

But it's been a good break. I really wasn't enjoying Darktide because I basically wanted my team to die so I could test myself but then at the same time, I don't want the brain-dead feed

But it's okay

I've been playing Deadlock

[marble crater]

Sadly I didn't have lights out event mission on gloriana yet

[strong gulch]

Valid to leave DT tbh.

[hearty wolf]

It's a seriously great game with shit optimisation

I just need to be in the mood for it

I'll read psyker rework first and see what I think

Psyker tree has smite in it

Disgusted

[oak breach]

I can never figure out a way to fit Smite into a build

[prisma niche]

I want a modifier that just puts barrels fucking everywhere
More than the "increased barrel spawns" mod we have now

MORE.
MORE BARRELS.

[ripe obsidian]

You return!

Time to carry me to H40

[hearty wolf]

Ah it's not mobile friendly. I guess I'll wait.

[oak breach]

Also also... what keystone for Electrokinetic? I've been trying it with Disrupt Destiny for the crit buffs

[hearty wolf]

I need to first get good enough to even carry

I've recently started drug maxxing to get better performance

Turns out drinking like 3 energy drinks a day really helps

[plucky flax]

Bruh you're one of those drinking monster can everyday.

[hearty wolf]

I've just begun for the last week and it's so good

I used to drink like 9 cups of tea

But it's too weak

[prisma niche]

Tastes awful to me

[hearty wolf]

Monster tastes like shit. I get Lucazade

Or nourishment

[prisma niche]

I just don’t bother with caffeine
Which is saying something because I work night shift

[wraith sphinx]

Sin speedrunning the heart attack achievment

[hearty wolf]

I get these palpitations sometimes but if I ignore them, they just go away

Or if I drink more

[prisma niche]

Real

It’s just sefoni don’t worry about it

[hearty wolf]

I'm performing better at work on 2h of sleep too

Like it sounds unhealthy

[wraith sphinx]

sefoni has sent you a freak request

[wind spruce]

https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/1425137765992890521

[hearty wolf]

But I feel fine

Better than fine

[prisma niche]

Drowning in that tank is an acceptable cost

[oak breach]

Hm, smite?

[wind spruce]

pick whatever keystone u want

[marble crater]

Irosk is a smyker

[wind spruce]

im using BB now

[wind spruce]

its true

[oak breach]

Figured Assail combos nicely with EK to make up for the lack of hordeclear

[prisma niche]

I feel like the disrupt destiny decay rate should be just a little slower as baseline
I never get it to 25 unless it’s the finale

[wind spruce]

i pretend in discord that i play meleeker but i actually just infinite smite all game

[prisma niche]

(Force greatsword is legitimately one of my favorite horde clear weapons)

[ripe obsidian]

That actually sounds like death

[marble crater]

You were in my mission yesterday

[strong gulch]

Depends.

LMB = DD (unless you are going to SG uptime then warp siphon)
RMB = warp siphon

Will EK be your main weapon or etc

[wind spruce]

i was?!?

oh that top 0.001% psyker?

yeah that me

[marble crater]

There was someone smiting the entire mission, who else could it have been?

[wind spruce]

what a god

[prisma niche]

Palpaspyker

[oak breach]

Idk how to feel about the greatswords, feels like the mostly just do the same thing as the smaller swords

[hearty wolf]

Maybe it'll catch up but my mind feels a tad more clear.

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, I can carry you.

[prisma niche]

They most definitely DO NOT

[hearty wolf]

Did they change smite in any way

[wind spruce]

Kys

[marble crater]

Hab Dreyko end event he even announced "I wonder how long I can smite" so I did the only right thing... and injected him with a red stim

[oak breach]

Hey man idk, if you think otherwise I'd like to learnw hy

[hearty wolf]

Jesus Christ. How long did that go?

[ripe obsidian]

50 minutes

I also have a 35 minute 3m damage one

[wind spruce]

It's a better all rounder than the force swords, just slower

[hearty wolf]

Even for 50m, given the team damage that seems pretty extreme

[wind spruce]

And has slash

[plucky flax]

I just did 5.2mil in 52 mins.

Not proud of it.

[ripe obsidian]

I burninate things.

[plucky flax]

A map should never take that long.

[summer prairie]

the recent patch spawns more stuff and some elites have more hp

[ripe obsidian]

I have yet to pass 5m. One day.

[patent mango]

oh thank god they deleted loner aura

so peak they should add it back and remove it again just to be extra awesome

[oak breach]

Yeah I guess that's the thing

Between your ranged and your blitz, do you really need an all-rounder melee? Maybe I guess, idk I am not that good at this game, just trying to figure things out

[hearty wolf]

Is it actually significant?

[prisma niche]

Nah, buff the suicide bomber archetype

[summer prairie]

well it explains the higher numbers

not like anything changed

besides that

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe I am just getting better. D:

[patent mango]

the problem with greatsword isnt that ranged and blitz do its job its that you wont even remember to use anything but the greatsword with how awesome it is

[summer prairie]

you can't do bigger numbers just by being better

[plucky flax]

Farm worse teammates.

[summer prairie]

total mission damage counts were like 5m before or less

[prisma niche]

T R U E

[ripe obsidian]

I can if I kill everything before they get close!

[summer prairie]

maybe a bit more on healing maps (such as all these obviously)

[wind spruce]

If your melee is primary take FGS, if staff is primary take a FS

[oak breach]

Simple enough I guess

[wind spruce]

Obviously there's nuance and preference

But yiis

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike + FGS + Assail feels pretty good

[hearty wolf]

I think Darktide not having a match history

Is actually giga garbage

[wind spruce]

FGS plus lmb EK + any blitz feels fucking broken

[patent mango]

what mod has that again i frogot

[hearty wolf]

Scoreboard technically

[prisma niche]

I use FGS/Revolver/Assail/Scrier’s
assail for sparse enemies and to keep my peril up
Revolver for crushers and maulers
FGS for literally everything else

[ripe obsidian]

LMB EK is the only good LMB staff.

[patent mango]

it takes so long to load when i accidentally press it

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike in 2025?

[ripe obsidian]

I use Voidstrike in Auric for event missions

[patent mango]

my gun is just for snipers and plasma gunners by this point

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is fun

[wind spruce]

80% crit rate w/ surge

[ripe obsidian]

And it's funny to steal all the Soulblaze from Auric inferno psykers

[prisma niche]

Honestly I just don’t like the psyker staves

They slow me down so much

[plucky flax]

Tru

Reject staves. Become gun wizard.

[prisma niche]

Wizard with a gun?

[wind spruce]

Ek LMB doesn't feel like a staff

[prisma niche]

Now, if we finally got an assail themed staff…

[ripe obsidian]

I am the thief of Soulblaze

[wind spruce]

I'm obsessed rn

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is basically the plasma gun

[plucky flax]

[wind spruce]

Lmaoooo

[plucky flax]

I'd trade voidstrike to use plasma on psyker tbh.

[summer prairie]

give voidstrike 100 cleave

[prisma niche]

Wonder if there’s any lore for psykers summoning allied daemons from the warp

[wind spruce]

Giving that poor trauma psyker actual trauma

[ripe obsidian]

They shouldn't have tried to use Soulblaze with me in the game. It all belongs to me.

[oak breach]

Okay okay last question

What about Empowered Psionics? Feels like such a waste with Smite. Pairs well with Assail or Brain Rupture I suppose?

[verbal thistle]

It's a playstyle

[wind spruce]

EP smite is goated, but also lame af

[verbal thistle]

If you overuse your blitz for their use (assail horde, bb single target/snipe) then it just gives them more value in their strengths

[prisma niche]

EP smite fucks everything
But it’s so lame

[ripe obsidian]

Give Voidstrike cleave on carapace, or a charge time that isn't hellish. Or enough damage to kill even Auric-level elites consistently.

[oak breach]

I actually kinda dislike EP smite

I enjoy using the leftclick to quickly stun Elites and Specials, but it feels like a waste when I run Smite with EP, weh

[prisma niche]

Once you have EP
Charge up and slaughter hordes

[wind spruce]

Assail all non-armour

[ripe obsidian]

If you use LMB Smite, you are better than like 90% of smite users.

[prisma niche]

What is the difference even

[wind spruce]

Quick swap to stagger ragers with lmb is goated

[prisma niche]

I’ve never really noticed one

[wind spruce]

It comes out instantly

[ripe obsidian]

LMB is a quick stun and push. RMB is a charge and hold

[thorn cedar]

EP Smite is definitely legit and EP BB can be somewhat OK but in both cases you are taking all the global damage bonuses that could still apply to your Blitzes + everything else and making it Blitz only. So it's kind of a wash.

[oak breach]

I do have an EP + Scrier's build with Assail that I saw on Reddit tho. Get the Peril immunity at the end of Scrier's and then I spam my Assail.

[prisma niche]

EP BB would be good if BB was… Even remotely usable

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz did a duo H40 with BB+EP.

[thorn cedar]

If you lean hard into it like Smykers do Smite BB can be very legit

[wind spruce]

yeah but Ainz is Ainz

[thorn cedar]

Duo shields + KR + BB

Shit be poppin'

[oak breach]

I use BB on my Shriek + Warp Charges build for singletarget damage. Dunno if it's better than spamming my inferno staff but I can't think of any other use

[ripe obsidian]

BB is a lot better with the damage scaling buff.

And guaranteed KF is amazing.

10/10

[thorn cedar]

Sadly KF alone cannot maintain uptime for MM and PT

[ripe obsidian]

BB on Inferno + Shriek is for killing ranged elites and specials when there's nothing close enough to bathe in cleansing flame

[oak breach]

And magdumping with Kinetic Resonance? :D

[plucky flax]

Make sure you take kf when you spec bb.

[prisma niche]

The issue with brain blast is that it’s just… Kinda redundant?
You can kill that elite over there by waiting a full second and hoping it didn’t target a random scab or you can just snapshot it with a revolver

[strong gulch]

As an EP BB enjoyer, I'm pleased.

[ripe obsidian]

It depends on your build.

[pale prairie]

I thought it doesn’t target scabs now

[ripe obsidian]

If you have an EP+BB build, I wanna throw it in the guide. Otherwise, I'm just gonna wing it

[plucky flax]

516k blitz damage 578k purg direct damage

[ripe obsidian]

Did they change targeting? I rarely have issues. Just aim a little higher so you hit elites. It is known in heretic circles that height = importance

[plucky flax]

KF damage is nearly that from the direct damage what the hell

[prisma niche]

Even when I build entirely around BB being as effective as possible it just doesn’t do its job any better than any other tool could

[pale prairie]

Yes that’s why I max my height

[ripe obsidian]

Blaze Away affects KF. 5k+ damage per pop, especially on Rotten Armor

[marble crater]

The trick to using BB is to not use BB and only treat is as a tax node for KF

[plucky flax]

I'm op

[pale prairie]

This game is goofy

[prisma niche]

The biggest thing is how vulnerable you are while charging even the charge speed is boosted

[pale prairie]

Sorry was me

[plucky flax]

Tru it was you

[ripe obsidian]

BB is a tool. Use it when you have space and a reason. I use it to kill the fucking snipers my team won't target for some reason, or the gunners 80m away who won't calm down

[verbal thistle]

Combos well with trauma

Which gives you room to use

https://youtu.be/0aCgA8Wm72E?si=K0DjKLF92_QVFMB2

How I use it

[wind spruce]

@prisma niche @oak breach @ripe obsidian extremely rough demo of how to use LMB smite

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/7k6GyZ

[patent mango]

i feel like you can just toss 1 shard instead

[prisma niche]

Yeah, but, like I said, the revolver does all of that but better
It’s okay if you want to use a staff build

[plucky flax]

Toss deez

[zealous wing]

this, honestly, is a problem. its much more noticable when im playing ogryn now, because im using kickback, shield, and BFR. trying to hit something that far away with a rock is painful, so i just end up using like 8 shots to kill the sniper from that range, whereas on gunker or staveker, i have a range option (gun, or BB), and didnt think much of it as a psyker

[prisma niche]

Not great

[plucky flax]

Why? Rock is like a sniper shot

[wind spruce]

yeah pretty much

[plucky flax]

Rock is so op

[pale prairie]

“CLASS IDENTITY”

[zealous wing]

yeah but that requires having revolver

[plucky flax]

Luv me rock

Eat me rock

[zealous wing]

i have terrible aim 😭

but the rock is fucking awesome

[pale prairie]

Heavy single stubber is a battle rifle

With aim

[patent mango]

ogryn is literally the class with the most sniper like weapon

[plucky flax]

Ye the slow stubber is a sniper too

[pale prairie]

I usually just rumbler in their general direction

[plucky flax]

And rock

2 sniping tool

In same loadout

Is op

[prisma niche]

Big Big Belt Fed Anti-materiel rifle

[pale prairie]

Not as OP as charging into pox burster explosion

[zealous wing]

ive played ogryn for like, two days, i need more rock practice