psyker-class

[zealous wing]

l1 bc
l1 l2 bc
l1 l2 l3 bc
l1 l2 l3 heavy

these are all viable hordeclear combos you can mix and match

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, you can use it simply or do the complex cancel combos and stuff

[calm lagoon]

Lacking in complexity I mean

[nocturne dust]

swap cancel, not block cancel

[zealous wing]

well i block

because deflector

[nocturne dust]

Block is a lot slower

[calm lagoon]

My favorite combo is the heavy eviscerator horde clear where you incorporate the block push swing into heavy and so on

[zealous wing]

hasnt mattered yet

[nocturne dust]

Well I don't cancel so

[zealous wing]

besides i think block canceling would be more reliable than swap cancelling. thats a whole other button you gotta push, and cant while moving

i tried swap canceling and yeah its fast, but then i cant move left

[calm lagoon]

Ngl, a polearm weapon would go crazy (I can't wait to find out ive forgotten it if it does exist)

[zealous wing]

closest to a polearm is the greatswords methinks

or a pickaxe, by technicality

long stick with something sharp on the end

[nocturne dust]

Huh?

[calm lagoon]

Greatsword run animation oml

[zealous wing]

my weapon swap is Q

[nocturne dust]

Sure

Why is the finger that you use for A pressing Q?

[calm lagoon]

Aight im heading off for the night

[zealous wing]

what finger should i be using

[nocturne dust]

The D finger

[zealous wing]

the fuck

[calm lagoon]

Voidstrike ad clear build with chain axe is the only based way too play psyker 🥹 🥹

[zealous wing]

im not playing twister with my hand

[nocturne dust]

WTF YOU MEAN

[zealous wing]

the fuck do you mean!? what keyboard type you using

[nocturne dust]

Qwerty

[zealous wing]

...

[nocturne dust]

[zealous wing]

qwer
asdf
zxc

[sturdy reef]

Azerty is for the french

hon hon hon

[nocturne dust]

Oh wait, no, you right

[zealous wing]

why the fuck would i use d all the way under my hand to press q

[nocturne dust]

For some reason I was thinking Q was on the other side

[zealous wing]

dumbass

[nocturne dust]

I just woke up from sleeping for 12 hours

[zealous wing]

gg

besides, though...
if i used D, and it WAS next to q, i'd have the same issue, unable to move right

so, block canceling for me

[ripe obsidian]

Just a Dream has killed me. Alas.

[zealous wing]

alas

[nocturne dust]

This is why I only use light/heavy spam

[sturdy reef]

JaD kept on killing me

so my best friend is now IF

[nocturne dust]

or macros, you could use macros

[zealous wing]

nah

no idea how the hell i'd effectively use a macro for how fluidly i switch between combos

[nocturne dust]

I haven't had issues, but enough people have complained that I think it's warranted to have a short "can't peril yourself" time or something

[sturdy reef]

its more noticeable on H40

[nocturne dust]

I didn't have issues on Havoc

[ripe obsidian]

yeah, I was on H40, sitting at like 92%. and the +5% from a rotten armor bomb pushed me too high

[sturdy reef]

that was my issue as well

[nocturne dust]

Just stop before you explode yourself, duh

[sturdy reef]

it can hamstring you

nah

I splode

🙁

[zealous wing]

get crystal will

[nocturne dust]

I hit 97% and then just reflexively quell, lol

[ripe obsidian]

The damage resist is super nice, but it's inconvenient sometimes

[zealous wing]

yeah

[strong gulch]

That's when my brain omits what peril is.

[ripe obsidian]

I hit 97% without realizing, an an extra like 0.5 seconds of RMB charging killed me

[strong gulch]

Then boom

[zealous wing]

it also doesnt help that its like, 4 bruiser hits to bump you to 97

[ripe obsidian]

I was mid-RMB charge when it hit

[nocturne dust]

RMB shouldn't kill you

rmb charging that is

Only if you fire do you explode

[wispy bay]

Failed edging test

[fierce crest]

yeah you glance at your peril, its low enough to attack, you look for a target and shoot

and you pop cuz you got hit during aiming

[zealous wing]

zealot drip clipping issues are wild

cant wear ANY backpack with this shit

not even BOOK

[fierce crest]

the big book?

NOOOO

[zealous wing]

i am sad

[fierce crest]

[nocturne dust]

I guess I'm just built different because I've yet to peril myself and I'm always running it

But I'm not a hard edger like you crazies so I guess my anti-exploding instincts are stronger

[zealous wing]

tempted to wear the glowy powercell one tho because it looks the derpiest

i like wearing something glowy on my characters to make them easier to see, and he's already got candles so like, its fine

but

backpack :(

[strong gulch]

If I know that I have x allotted peril left and queue an appropriate peril attack then everything is ok. If I get a sudden spike or am interrupted that pushes me into the danger zone, I don't adapt well and have trouble "mentally canceling" that attack.

lmao, like the sims or something

[nocturne dust]

I guess it's the perk of not knowing peril gen numbers at all and being purely reactionary to the gauge

[strong gulch]

The hood just flapping wildky for no reason sometimes too. lol

[zealous wing]

honestly

fatshark

give us a cosmetic set with the hood up

slop, yes, but, its decent slop

[nocturne dust]

The monkey's paw curls

[strong gulch]

I play it too closely to the edge. skissue and wtf is my brain like this issue lmao

[zealous wing]

i wanna wear a mage hood as a zealot, and the most zealot outfit i can muster as a psyker

[strong gulch]

Zealot mostly only get jammy pants. Just give em a hoodie at this point.

[nocturne dust]

You will get your hood as DLC that costs $60 and it will look like arse in-game

[zealous wing]

seriously

...

depends on HOW arse

at this point, the cosmetical grading bar is buried in the back yard

[nocturne dust]

The hood is clipping through half your face

[zealous wing]

win

id absolutely fucking wear it

be so fucking silly

[strong gulch]

A cosmetic change that somehow completely fecks things up. Like the mesh is actually huge and if you shoot a gun you're shooting yourself and that's friendly damage so you block your own bullets.

[zealous wing]

like this beard smooosh

looks like a cat trapped in the anxiety hood

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-in-a-sock-gif-640632478170750258

[ripe obsidian]

I went down to a mutant dragging me into fire, and I nearly went down to a sniper when I ran out of dodges

But

4.3m damage and 440k boss damage

[static vessel]

Played psyker for the first time in a while.

And it was probably the most fun I had lol.

Great force blade is awesome

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah a LOT of people are playing psyker now

The amount of gaze psykers in qp also exploded

[plucky flax]

H-how long...?

[ripe obsidian]

50 minutes. Was a slog.

Was averaging like 1m damage per 10 minutes prior to the end event

I've been getting ~2.5m damage in 35 minute games, so this was higher

Used Shriek 183 times

Was Rotten Armor + Purple on Dark Communion

[nocturne dust]

🤢

Looks very tiresome

Test of endurance, lol

[ripe obsidian]

It was hectic

I did 720k damage to maulers.

And killed... 59.

12.2k damage per mauler.

But I am not sure Power DI properly got all the enemies, as it says there were only 54 crushers, which feels way too low

[plucky flax]

Silo cluster with purple rot is really hard

https://youtu.be/PaKP8eyQlm4

[ripe obsidian]

Purple rot is hard in general

[plucky flax]

Oh its just purple and 21st

Why the hell did we get so many elites

[ripe obsidian]

Mettle uptime is surprisingly low. and I don't know which Immaterial Focus is the correct one. Or if they both are.

[plucky flax]

Silo* is just hard map there

[ripe obsidian]

Silo is brutal.

Is Dark Communion considered a difficult map?

[wispy bay]

Not really

[plucky flax]

No it's easy map

[wispy bay]

Mostly the open portion of it after the 1st medicare and the bridge.

[ripe obsidian]

okay, both of the Immaterial Focus marks are correct. It's a different buff for the 97%+ and the 4 seconds of lingering

18% stun immunity isn't bad at all

[wispy bay]

Silo is a big hall way with so little room to manoeuvre.

Try to break the line of sight of gunners and you put yourself in a corner.

[ripe obsidian]

Also, I tried Inferno + Shriek without ER a few more times, and it went better

And while I think JaD is a better talent than OwtW, I don't love my peril randomly spiking when I touch fire or get pinged by a random shooter

Though 100% peril dropping to 97% when getting hit is weird

[ripe obsidian]

brutal

[plucky flax]

It was close

Game too hard

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, mutants are bullies

[wraith sphinx]

Silo is very tiresome with a bad team

Not as much as excise vault doe

[fierce crest]

hmm

[summer prairie]

we can't win without Karien

[ripe obsidian]

Any idea how to get this cosmentic? It's showing up because of a mod, but it's in the same section as docket cosmetics

[wraith sphinx]

He means 'reactive'

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I thought I was at 92% and didn't realize I had been knocked higher until it was too late

[wraith sphinx]

Afaik reactionary as a term draws from the term reactive though so his usage isn't wrong

[fierce crest]

looks like a fomo shop item

[wraith sphinx]

Jusr unconventional

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, so the mod is just putting it in a weird spot

thank you

[zealous wing]

looks like the psyker twitch drop stuff

i have the vet stuff

[ripe obsidian]

nah, that's my shirt

[zealous wing]

OH lol

[fierce crest]

fronch

[ripe obsidian]

The shirt is honestly not terrible. The pants and hat are... something.

[zealous wing]

yeah

but

[wraith sphinx]

Doesn't exist sorry

[fierce crest]

true

[zealous wing]

with PSYKER at least it kinda works

psykers are all crazy

but the vet stuff is such a fucking mess

[ripe obsidian]

I meant not terrible, mistyped

I like the psyker twitch jacket

Hate the pants and hat

[plucky flax]

I like the fake zealot vet drip

[wraith sphinx]

Ugly as hell pattern

[zealous wing]

have you seen the vet stuff

[plucky flax]

Never let them know who you are

[ripe obsidian]

It's so bad it's great

[wraith sphinx]

I like the fake vet psyker drip ^^

[ripe obsidian]

I have not

[ripe obsidian]

which is that?

[plucky flax]

Which one is that?

[plucky flax]

There's a extra premium set with the big hat and long coat. Looks more zealot than vet

[wraith sphinx]

There are multiple candidate sets but I slapped mine together from shroudwrap and armageddon sets

[ripe obsidian]

This is my usual vet outfit, but I also have the yellow trench coat

[plucky flax]

I think it's the hat from this set

[zealous wing]

twitch vet looks like a fucking fortnite skin

[ripe obsidian]

honestly, I only really hate the hat. The peg leg and top are fun.

[wraith sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153279327513886770/1376157500805484655/image.png?ex=68e2fccb&is=68e1ab4b&hm=bacfddaa25ecb85defc161a9b929fb5e1226ae144e917f4983dd409f42192dd8&

[zealous wing]

i WOULD use the legs

[wraith sphinx]

@plucky flax

[zealous wing]

but it doesnt match fuckin ANYTHING

[plucky flax]

Still have too many tubes

[wraith sphinx]

Shhhhhhh

[zealous wing]

so he's just rocking basic shit unless i decide vets fine to play

[wraith sphinx]

The tubes are SUBTLE and TACTICAL ok

[strong gulch]

Pant are from real money shop. I have brown ones because it goes with a lot of stuff and I liked seeing the knee support.

[wraith sphinx]

Also Im fairly sure thats the least tubey psyker top

[ripe obsidian]

My usual psyker outfit

[fierce crest]

gaze upon my works, ye mighty, and despair

[ripe obsidian]

looks spec ops-y

oh my lord, they fixed the zealot hat

my hair doesn't clip it anymore

[nocturne dust]

Average Reject

[wraith sphinx]

My go to outfit nowadays is this however

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849407143429144596/1421951685093363774/image.png?ex=68e2d034&is=68e17eb4&hm=edd80d25d0eb9a4c3c4470c5cbdb4f1c70ad7443f03eea32667e87d318d1f9a7&

I think it looks pretty cute

[fierce crest]

big sword is just so cool

[zealous wing]

i dont even ogryn but i am tempted by these helmets

theyre just cool

[wraith sphinx]

It's an awesome helmet I bought it

[fierce crest]

ogryn need armor with white plates for the white one

[zealous wing]

i'd definitely buy the bundle, though

[ripe obsidian]

This is my oggy outfit

[wraith sphinx]

Truskan snowhound set?

[zealous wing]

i think the same for the zealot gasmask bundle, but idk if i like them yet

[wraith sphinx]

Also that uhh truskan recolor with red base

[zealous wing]

if i want one, might as well get the bundle

[wraith sphinx]

Bakkan irregulars

[nocturne dust]

Your guy looks like a washed up mob boss

[ripe obsidian]

That's the vibe I'm going for

[wraith sphinx]

Or like he had a really bad day at his 9 to 5 job

[ripe obsidian]

oh, the eye twitches. Weird.

[zealous wing]

the fact that all three are 400 more than a single one is obviously what their goal was, they knew what they were doing

[ripe obsidian]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falling_Down

[zealous wing]

but, fuck it 🙃 when i can be bothered to refill aquila, im getting them

and yeah the servitor eye moves

[wraith sphinx]

I'm not sure I'll be buying anything else myself anymore

[nocturne dust]

I'll buy pretty hair

[wraith sphinx]

The shop has... not that much stuff in it hence the fomo and slow ass rotation

[nocturne dust]

But I know Fatshark could never

[wraith sphinx]

Lmao imagine if they did that that'd be a riot

But hey maybe we get lucky if some forum dweller pokes them about it

[nocturne dust]

In the grim darkness of the future, there are no combs

[zealous wing]

the problem is, its not lack of combs thats the issue

[ripe obsidian]

if I played Veteran more, I might get this goofy-ass hat

[wraith sphinx]

Oh actually I lied

If valhallan sets reappear I'm 100% getting those

[zealous wing]

hmmm

[wraith sphinx]

For psyker that is

[zealous wing]

with hmmmmm

HMMMM

why must i always want drip

[plucky flax]

Need the pegleg gang

[fierce crest]

im waiting til they let me move my save to steam before i do any microtransactions

[zealous wing]

true 😭

[plucky flax]

Vet have both mechanical leg and peg leg hat

Vet drip superior

[zealous wing]

the fuck is a peg leg hat

[plucky flax]

Hat is just a term for skins

[ripe obsidian]

this is a 10/10 hat

[plucky flax]

Maybe it's dota meme i dunno

Or old valve meme

[ripe obsidian]

TF2 is the first place I know it from

[plucky flax]

Free tf2 hat

Free dota hat

Those lenses need cleaning my dude

[ripe obsidian]

the dirt is part of the charm

Chasm Logistratum game from the other day. 37 minutes, 3m damage.

[fierce crest]

Wizard (Barbarian)

[wraith sphinx]

[ripe obsidian]

Four Psykers walk into a train station. I steal all their Soulblaze. The end.

I also apparently do 450 team damage.

Apparently 100% of my damage taken was from blowing myself up with bursters.

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie do you still have silo?

[fierce crest]

the return

[zealous wing]

[thin finch]

WTF man ,the explosion is not considered warp damage ?!

[summer prairie]

Yes, almost done with my run

[thin finch]

Wait it's truly not considered a warp attack

Malefic momentun increase it's damage, but not Empurioc shoc, and the MM buiff was the non warp ( after staff ball kill)

Big Fish wtf ?!

I go up to 1749 damage on a mauler :/

ain't enough to kill em

[jovial juniper]

Just another 1951

[plucky flax]

Jihad build

[summer prairie]

@plucky flax I'm around now if you want to do another attempt

[plucky flax]

Good timing I just got home. Give me 3mins

[thin finch]

Yes, not as good I was expêctring de to it not being warp attack , but it consistently one shot shot gunner and regular gunner

for now I considers the bubble, so I can still be usefull to the team AND get into close range by bubbling the squad of gunner and run into them

but SG might be a good option with the 40% extra damage

[summer prairie]

this arbi can survive but 0 damage

[plucky flax]

This guy is controller player.

Based.

[summer prairie]

pro

[plucky flax]

They both do no damage.

[summer prairie]

chill gameplay

[plucky flax]

Bruh I got ress into mutie grab.

And attacked during grabbed.

Fair and balanced.

[zealous wing]

met a SG smyker in a game finally

fuck them

thoroughly

they literally only did 20k more damage than i did, and tbh thats probably because i was pissed and kept leaving them to deal with shit 😂

i shoulda done what the other zealot did and leave

cant even block them, because the previous missions thing is broken again

[proper osprey]

yeah smite gimps zealot hard

[plucky flax]

Crashed Xd

[proper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/meanie-cat-cat-meanie-cat-meanie-mean-cat-gif-10599680892698519833

[zealous wing]

i hated smykers already as a gunker, but when a class that benefits from getting hit, dodging, etc... i wanted them to die but im not mean enough yet to do it myself

soon though i will snap

[fierce crest]

do you search week old mentions of your name

[proper osprey]

sometimes i be lurking

[fierce crest]

im sorry

[proper osprey]

i looked up my name because someone wanted a buil and its all good lol

[fierce crest]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0021c9a-e075-4e33-abd3-8708e841fb51/maximum-powerfire-2 the superior brain off build

[proper osprey]

i hate er but i never found a use for if

[fierce crest]

its just more uptime

[proper osprey]

deflector yucky!

[fierce crest]

its like +40% ammo/mag size/reload speed

[proper osprey]

10 years of learning zealot

[proper osprey]

yeah its not bad and warp ghost helps cancel out the bad stuff

[fierce crest]

also i hate shooters

so deflector bubble my beloved

[proper osprey]

10 years of learning zealot

[zealous wing]

siuødvbjsbdvosb<vjbsvd

[fierce crest]

but you also take the press F to ignore shooters button

[zealous wing]

razor software updated

[fierce crest]

curious

[zealous wing]

now i have to recalibrate and re-set all my buttons and shit

on my mouse

fucking glorious

[proper osprey]

Enjoy the new malware

[zealous wing]

jsanbdvkjbskdvbkzxbckjcbnsldcnæsdv

big mad

very big mad

sensitivity, scrolling resistance

all of it 😭

[long saddle]

my mouse right-click is starting to give out

I have melee'd a bunch of bursters because of it

[fierce crest]

ghosting?

or just not clicking

[long saddle]

not clicking if I don't do it hard enough

[fierce crest]

rip

get the air duster in there

[long saddle]

worth a try, otherwise I'm prob gonna see if I can get a new switch and replace it

[plucky flax]

Get other teammates.

[pulsar hazel]

oh my god i finally get it

[plucky flax]

No damage no cc

[pulsar hazel]

i finally understand EK

i just needed to run it with gaze to actually have fun

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

Arby and zealot yet they don't even hit boss.

[pulsar hazel]

what melee should i run on it cus atm im running a suboptimal chsword mostly cus its fun

[summer prairie]

fgs is good

[pulsar hazel]

ya but i run that on 90% of my builds

maybe ill rev it up with chsword

zoomies

[plucky flax]

I'll try bubble cos this map is too hard.

Crashed again something is wrong with trauma.

Game engine access violation

I need to revalidate game files.

[summer prairie]

coming soon?

[plucky flax]

Yeah in a min.

Game is validating.

[plucky flax]

Instant crash again I think that lobby is cursed.

Maybe it's a sign to not play trauma.

[summer prairie]

I'll play trauma

[wind spruce]

Got a slot free @summer prairie @plucky flax ?

[zealous wing]

i need an honest opinion here on bistol, if someone here knows both marks specialties

[summer prairie]

just started another

[zealous wing]

if my goal is mainly to have it for the aoe for floor above dog saves, dogs in general, stagger, the new mark is better for that, yeah?

but if i want it to be damage its gotta be the old mark, while still having some aoe

[wispy bay]

That's the only thing that the new bolt pistol is good for.

[zealous wing]

k thought so

[wispy bay]

I don't remember if puncture applies AOE bleed or not.

[zealous wing]

no

much to my sadness

[wispy bay]

Though, if it does, the Vet chat would already jerk off over it.

[zealous wing]

if you want aoe bleed, you need a psyker FGS slash

and very quick swapping

i have noticed that means its also working with my zealot knives, so thats fun

[wispy bay]

On another note, I took the dust off my Illisi, still good.

And for some reason I play with it better than FGS.

[zealous wing]

another thing

bistol vs bolt gun

[royal totem]

Reload isnt ass

[wispy bay]

Quick draw vs high sustain.

[zealous wing]

so for quick shots, keep the bistol

[thin finch]

Deimos

[zealous wing]

the only reason i dont go back to combat shotgun or revolver, is the knives, and i do need the aoe

[thin finch]

or combat axe with the blessing that increase your damage after 3 second

[thin finch]

no 🙁

[wispy bay]

Force swords are some of the strongest weapon in the whole game.

[zealous wing]

main thing i love about the FGS, is through-the-walls saves

or, kills

[thin finch]

Agrree but variety is nice, and havin a weapon that can one hit kill many many ennemy by just pull it out, hit it, and go back to staff is funny

[zealous wing]

tbh though both bistol marks seem to twoshot dogs on auric

which, is a shame

[thin finch]

you're supposed to hit the dog with a stick anyway

[zealous wing]

cant do that at ranged

[thin finch]

you need a longer stick

[zealous wing]

we dont have 20m long sticks

[wispy bay]

I think you can 1 hit them with puncture.

[thin finch]

both bistol have puncture so I0 don't think it change much either

[zealous wing]

nope

[wispy bay]

Too bad

[zealous wing]

the bleed ran out before it died

[thin finch]

altough there is 100 damage difference between the two soo

yeah ok , no change then

[wispy bay]

The single target one has more ammo, fire faster. In my book, it is better.

[thin finch]

yeah, but I was using the bistol even base as a stagger machine so I do enjoy the new one in this aspect

if you enjoy aiming for head , pick the first one, but I have no idea if you make more or less breakpoint with the 2 mark

[zealous wing]

looks like itll just be testing then

[pulsar hazel]

what perks nd blessings you running on it

i wanna give it a whirl

[wispy bay]

Uncanny Slaughterer

[wind spruce]

slaughterer uncanny flak + something is likely still king

[pulsar hazel]

do i wanna spam heavies or light v hordes or does it depend on density

[wispy bay]

Might have some issue vs carapace, but otherwise pretty good, especially after the talent reword, the attack speed, cleave and other stuff make it very decent.

[wind spruce]

h1 l2 gives you perfectly horizontal strikes

but many argue that just light spam is better

so close its irrelevant though, really

[wispy bay]

Pretty much all attacks are for horde clear.

Suffer vs carapace.

[wind spruce]

and unyielding

[pulsar hazel]

ya i don't need it for cara im not planning to run this on high Havoc and it's just something to make my EK build more fun

[wispy bay]

Nah, it attacks quick enough to make up for low unyielding damage.

[pulsar hazel]

i see

should i use the special ever or nah

[wispy bay]

Yes

It is the only one with special that doesn't stick and also give you more cleave.

[pulsar hazel]

so moebian hordes i see

[wispy bay]

Illisi rubbing is a meme from the gameplay.

[pulsar hazel]

i imagine its special is probably good for rager crowds too

[wispy bay]

It is always good to turn it on when you have a chance.

[pulsar hazel]

my power deadass just went out but if i gameslanterned my build could ya look at it

[wispy bay]

Also, you can spam it to rev up peril, unlike the other two.

[pulsar hazel]

that's huge intel

[thin finch]

I usually run blazing spirit cuz I'm a pyroman

[wispy bay]

I do sometimes for fun with SG, but absolutely not the way.

[thin finch]

and currently Dflector and unstable power for my suicide bomb build

[pulsar hazel]

i have two floaters rn but this is my wack ass illisi + EK build. no empyric shock because I'm too lazy to click 5 times and not maxed out on warp siphon because in practice gaze has a near permanent uptime on this build anyway

lmk how wrong i am nicely

2 floaters as in 2 points spare

[thin finch]

you can probablty get the 6 charges

always nice to have more

[wispy bay]

I would recommend to go with DD instead of WS.

[pulsar hazel]

yeah idk what those words mean i main ogryn we eat rocks

don't you mean right keystone

[wispy bay]

Right keystone instead of the left one.

[pulsar hazel]

isn't that mostly for weakpoint damage

afaik EK doesn't headshot anymore

id rather perma spam gaze atp

WS stacks a bit of damage too yanno

[wispy bay]

But it increases critical damage, which is what EK is strong with.

[pulsar hazel]

oh hm

[acoustic jacinth]

WS can make for literal infinite SG uptime but warp battery + vampire is heavily recommended for consistency

[wispy bay]

Also works on Assails

And melee.

[pulsar hazel]

yeah seems to

[acoustic jacinth]

Both are good tho

[wispy bay]

So when SG is on, you get huge bonus.

[pulsar hazel]

ugh but then i won't have perma gaze

which is what made EK fun for me

💔 💔 💔 💔

[acoustic jacinth]

I mean

If you stick with EK you'll end up that way sooner or later

Venting shriek with creeping flames will be your future

[pulsar hazel]

yeah sometimes it leaves me with like 4-6 seconds of CD if i roll bad

[wispy bay]

If you get PA, you can have pretty much infinite up time.

[pulsar hazel]

I don't really fw EK it's the only staff I just never liked until I tried WS

[wispy bay]

Psykinetic Aura (PA)

[acoustic jacinth]

I get that

[pulsar hazel]

not rlly from my experience there are gaps

but I don't need max WS either

[acoustic jacinth]

You can definitely make something with SG and WS for infinite uptime but you need to fo further down into WS

It's not about warp battery

[zealous wing]

i am halfway there

[acoustic jacinth]

More about the 4% chance on kill

[pulsar hazel]

i might just get extra cleave assail and 1 extra dodge with my spare points maybe

[pulsar hazel]

yeah ik

[wispy bay]

I did it in Auric games, PA gives you pretty good CDR.

[acoustic jacinth]

Do that and you'll have infinite gaze

If that's your end goal

[pulsar hazel]

it's not always super necessary tbh

I can live with a few gaps

[zealous wing]

im halfway there

[pulsar hazel]

I'll try DD a little bit but I'm still very skeptical because critical damage is very weird in DT

[wispy bay]

I don't record my gameplay, but WS is unnecessary for me.

[pulsar hazel]

all the way back in VT2 it's always been additive

which often meant it was ass

30% extra crit damage seems high

when my power goes back on I'll test it

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah that's the thing though. If you're going to settle for gaps might as well go for DD

But yeah up to you anyways

It's a much smaller difference than you think

[viscid matrix]

Dd does come with that extra quell on kill, which is nice

[wispy bay]

You don't need that

[pulsar hazel]

I forgot that exists

[pulsar hazel]

i mean lowk slippery slope

[wispy bay]

You can abuse unbound and get all of the CDR back in that 10 seconds.

[zealous wing]

ït is a really useless node, the quell on DD kill

[viscid matrix]

Sure, but it helps a lot with warp attack gaze uptime

[zealous wing]

its 5%

[wispy bay]

It is eh.

[pulsar hazel]

but the other guy was technically correct that 100% uptime PA should give permagaze

[acoustic jacinth]

You will end up using shriek and WS in the end

[wispy bay]

Battle meditation might give you better result if you want to quell on kill.

[pulsar hazel]

I'll probably just go back to staffs I actually like

[acoustic jacinth]

Course

I personally main EK

So it's whatever you liek

[zealous wing]

EK is the stave i get along best with

[viscid matrix]

Usually go with both, very nice uptime on gaze while using staff or assail

[pulsar hazel]

I like traumaforce

[cosmic cobalt]

its as effective as quell on scrier's gaze

aka does almost nothing

sometimes i forgot that gaze slow down on kill

[viscid matrix]

EK is great until you learn that primary ek is better than secondary

[pulsar hazel]

i only rlly took that node cus EK M2 doesn't headshot

[acoustic jacinth]

Shadow money electric wizard gang. What's your talent tree and weapon choice like? Let's compare

[pulsar hazel]

ever since they nerfed quell cancelling i sleep

[cosmic cobalt]

siphon might be better for ek m2

[zealous wing]

i would have to switch character to check

[cosmic cobalt]

m1 yeah dd gaze

[pulsar hazel]

yeah I'm m2 gaze

[zealous wing]

im feeling real lazy after th bullshit i went through

[acoustic jacinth]

What happened lol

[zealous wing]

its probably ass tho knowing my build making

[cosmic cobalt]

go warp siphon on staves

more consistent stack and more base damage

[marble crater]

He lost in uprising

[pulsar hazel]

if i wanted to shoot little white slimes at people id get off my estrogen

[acoustic jacinth]

This is the will of the gex indeed. With ze creeping shriek

[zealous wing]

my mouse software updated, and i had to redo scroll tension, steps, DPI setting, hotkeys, just a bunch of bullshit

[acoustic jacinth]

Do not underestimate yourself sibling

[zealous wing]

havent even finished the keybinds but i have what i need for DT

[pulsar hazel]

i uninstalled my mouse software and just got an open source program called rawaccel or smth

doesn't manage binds tho

[cosmic cobalt]

imagine not using knock off chinese mouse that get 1 firmware in a year

[zealous wing]

yeah i am using razor synapse, because, Naga

[marble crater]

Time to look into options to save the settings on your PC

[acoustic jacinth]

Ngl without sedition it's been rough

[zealous wing]

so rough 😔

[acoustic jacinth]

I can't get drunk and hold W in darktide maps anymore

[wispy bay]

@pulsar hazel are you in game?

[zealous wing]

see, im the weird kind of person that, when i get drunk i could probably do h30 or 40 somewhat well, probably

[pulsar hazel]

no my power is out

💔

[zealous wing]

i dont drink often though so it'd be very unreliable

[acoustic jacinth]

I still function well but my will to blow up my teammates is stronger than my will to win

[zealous wing]

i feel that

thats 100% what would happen

[acoustic jacinth]

Have to int

[zealous wing]

and then id solo

[pulsar hazel]

okay so.

hear me out.

all my best racing sim times i got when near blackout drunk

[zealous wing]

[acoustic jacinth]

Purg psykers on their way to explode every singular barrel

[zealous wing]

oh yeah

[acoustic jacinth]

[pulsar hazel]

eventually you drink so much alcohol you become like ultra relaxed to the point your hands are as stable as a surgeons I'm deadass

[zealous wing]

new bistol mark

FUCKING TEAMMATES UP WITH BARRELS WORESE THANM VB

FUCKING FUNNY but omfg 😭

[wispy bay]

I would like to show you what I do with EK. Another time then.

[zealous wing]

the AOE is fucking MASSIVE

[acoustic jacinth]

That big of an AoE? Haven't played with new bolters

Damn

[zealous wing]

its perfect

[acoustic jacinth]

I mean

Bolters are working like bolters

[pulsar hazel]

what melee do you pair with EK

[wispy bay]

Anything really

[pulsar hazel]

okay what about what's ur most funmaxx option

[pulsar hazel]

really

you're the first person I've seen that likes it

I'm genuinely curious why and what build you're running

[wraith sphinx]

I like the firing sound of the new mark

that's about it

[wispy bay]

FGS and Fsword are the 2 common answer, strong and unique.

[wraith sphinx]

oh and I like how it uses a straight mag instead of a curved one

[wispy bay]

Each of the force sword are vastly different from each other.

[zealous wing]

looks like a 5 meter AOE for dogs

[pulsar hazel]

dw i know every wep in the game

[zealous wing]

is in the psych anyway

[pulsar hazel]

i wish obscurus was fun

[wraith sphinx]

why do you consider it not fun?

[pulsar hazel]

it kinda feels like sitting in a cuck chair

but there's nothing to watch

[wraith sphinx]

whart...

[pulsar hazel]

what

you asked..

[zealous wing]

i have it as a sub in for the Force Greatsword. im a psyker main, playing zealot, and want something that can go through floors or walls to knock dogs off people

[plucky flax]

I go eat gg.

[wraith sphinx]

I'm not online enough to understand what is that supposed to convey

[plucky flax]

Silo is way too hard

Can't imagine rot + purple.

[pulsar hazel]

Grenadier's Gauntlet.

[wispy bay]

It is the strongest, most versatile, but you need to do combo with it.

[pulsar hazel]

is that so

[wispy bay]

Yes, not joke.

[pulsar hazel]

is the combo L1-QQ by any chance

[wispy bay]

QQ?

[pulsar hazel]

double tap weapon swap

[wispy bay]

Oh, nope, single target is H1 - L - L.

[wraith sphinx]

H1 L2 L3 for high hp/cara targets, L1 H2 for hordeclear

[pallid talon]

Did wildfire get a buff or am I experiencing conformation bias

[wraith sphinx]

no swapping or anything

[pulsar hazel]

I'll use it because you're my little pookie kittens

[zealous wing]

from preupdate, still havent made one with better skill, but this is the FGS in its glory

[pulsar hazel]

im gonna guess slaughterer uncanny

and flakaniac

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-sad-cat-true-morgan-freeman-gif-2550818640546449257

[pulsar hazel]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G2aKPodasAAynVp.gif

[wispy bay]

Deimos and Illisi are easier to use, but more specialized.

[pulsar hazel]

i don't like easy to use

i like weird combo chains

borovian is my fav melee cus it has those

[wispy bay]

Deimos is single focus either L1-H2, or just heavy spam, light is kind of suck. Illisi anything goes, horde clear only.

[pulsar hazel]

you can do 3 lights and QQ with deimos if you don't mind RSI

l2 and l3 are ok

[wraith sphinx]

if I want to torture myself with combos I use the hsword

but I don't often feel like it

[pulsar hazel]

hsword has combos?

all of them are pretty simple last I checked

[wraith sphinx]

by combos I mean heavy spam

[pulsar hazel]

isee

idk i like weps with quirked up combos

[wraith sphinx]

obscurus fsword is like the only melee I use where I go out of my way to consistently combo with it

[pulsar hazel]

like how the drawcut for FGS let's you do a double slash if you QQ light after light 3

since drawcut is just l3

[wraith sphinx]

interesting

[pulsar hazel]

so you do l3 twice

[pulsar hazel]

it's cute if you want a tiny bit faster effective attack speed v hordes but it's not super necessary

[wraith sphinx]

fgs is the only weapon where I swap a lot but that's to swap to a laspistol or similar to close the distance faster

[pulsar hazel]

fgs also the only weapon with a "unique" draw attack

cus draw into light is l3 instead of l1

[wraith sphinx]

that's the perfect horizontal slash or?

[pulsar hazel]

I think it's l3 might be l4

[pulsar hazel]

nah super duper fast diagonal top right

[wraith sphinx]

ooh

[zealous wing]

i thought it was the other way

[pulsar hazel]

might be

[zealous wing]

which mark we talking

[pulsar hazel]

my power is out

[zealous wing]

i use 6

[pulsar hazel]

the one where you heavy spam elites

[wraith sphinx]

mk viii?

[pulsar hazel]

ya these numbers mean nothing to me

the one where you gotta usually like

[wraith sphinx]

same bestie

[pulsar hazel]

LLLHL

for hordes

[wraith sphinx]

darktide naming schemes leave a lot to be desired

[pulsar hazel]

anyway you can LLL-QQ its secret ari tech that's situationally useful and completely overkill

if you want to really kill your fingers do Deimos L1-QQ

[solid pond]

[pulsar hazel]

the stab comes out so fast it's hilarious

[neon mist]

I hear voidstrike can penetrate crushers but im struggling to replicate in Psykanium, i have the 100% cleave talent, what am I missing?

[wraith sphinx]

I thought cleave didn't work on carapace?

this is news to me

[solid pond]

yesn't

[neon mist]

I hear tanner speaking of it on a stream

[cosmic cobalt]

just do h1 l2 loop

[solid pond]

well there is your first problem

[cosmic cobalt]

h1 is the only worthwhile attack in the whole chain anyway

l2 suck shit but it is what it is

l3 is weird

[wraith sphinx]

yeah I would check that with a non tanner source first

[cosmic cobalt]

It feel like it have less range than other attack

[pulsar hazel]

don't cuss plsase

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G2WizH4XgAAiVvz.gif

[wispy bay]

@pulsar hazel Here is an example of SG, it is not even the optimal build. The enemy density in auric and Havoc is way denser than using the 3 targets here.

I run KF and Combustion. Also, 0 DD stack, so it is very different than what you might experience.

[pulsar hazel]

hello deinocamo

https://tenor.com/view/alre-cat-alre-sniff-alre-cat-sniff-kitten-cute-gif-13488836494367124906

[wispy bay]

🐱

[pulsar hazel]

🐱

[wraith sphinx]

🐱

[wispy bay]

Anyhow, that can give you more than enough to always keep the bonus of SG while not blowing yourself up. I hope it help and you can get some fun out of it.

[wind spruce]

ok EP charged strike savage sweep wrath chainsword is hilarious

[wraith sphinx]

hilarious in a weird or a fun way

[wind spruce]

well cleaving through 10 shotgunners at once and them all dying from charged strike is pretty damn fun

charged strike takes more than half their health lmao

[wispy bay]

I did that with the shock maul the other day for the + damage on electrocuted enemies, it is weirdly fun.

[wind spruce]

does that blessing buff charged strike damage

[wispy bay]

No, but it does extra damage if you hit them the second time.

Charged strike is electrocution guarantee.

I don't remember the mark I used, but the H1-L is a big swing combo, which makes use of it pretty well.

[wind spruce]

giggity

chainsword is actually shredding shit up

[pulsar hazel]

might have to tap in

sounds like fun

[wind spruce]

it really is

[wraith sphinx]

Giggity

[acoustic jacinth]

Chainsword and chainaxe vs evisc

And i main evisc

[wispy bay]

Chain Axe has thrust. Technically, it has the highest single hit of all weapon when you do a heavy rev up.

[acoustic jacinth]

Chainaxe is neat, and chainsword got even better

[pulsar hazel]

does psychic leeching apply when you charged strike max or nah

[acoustic jacinth]

Evisc

While its not bad or anything

It's a lot of work

For similar results

[pulsar hazel]

what about shit like malefic momentum

does an enemy dying to the elec proc count as a warp kill

[acoustic jacinth]

Ye

[pulsar hazel]

oh thats fucking hilarious

[acoustic jacinth]

Warp kill is anything psyker related like

Force greatsword

The special slash

That's a warp kill

[vernal temple]

I've just now noticed the drip of the Mourningstar's navigator from the introduction trailer for DT. We have similar looking helmets, but that 3rd eye in the middle and the glowing red visor is so dope

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah and chainaxe suck shit everywhere else

and chainsword is so much better than evis now

evis even lose out single target damage because dollar store bloodletter

[pulsar hazel]

oh my god

this is so op

😭

[jovial juniper]

Ok but

Who tf uses Bloodletter on evis

💀

[calm lagoon]

How good is electrokinetic staff with the free crit perk near the right keystone? I feel like it's a must take but I want other opinions

[pulsar hazel]

EK doesnt hit heads so not necessary unless you wanna assailmax imo

m2*

[calm lagoon]

You'd use it with melee and swap to it, play it like a fucked up weapon specialist

At least that's how I think you'd use electrokinetic

[acoustic jacinth]

It works well with m1 builds, EK staff has great finesse on m1 and pairs well with DD keystone. However, must take only for this specific build. If we're talking getting as much as we can out of the staff, you'd ideally play shriek eith WS keystone. Spread soulblaze, pop heads with KF BB, m2 everything whilst edging peril

With good managment

You can shriek every 6-7 secs

[white valley]

No one with half a brain at least

[acoustic jacinth]

Not to mention

[white valley]

Eviscerator either goes shred perfect strike or rampage with shred/wrath

[acoustic jacinth]

Warp battery works well with EK anyways

[calm lagoon]

I always expected EK too be a bosser with its m2, Lap, whats KF?

[acoustic jacinth]

Kinetic flayer subnode of brain burst

[calm lagoon]

Ahhh ok ok

[calm lagoon]

Rampage eviscerator my beloved

[acoustic jacinth]

Also, it's not the end of the world, but m2 for bosses is fairly slow dps compared to just meleeing the thing

With uh

Warp ghost now

Iirc thats the name of the new talent

You have enough stamina anyways

In case you feel lacking

[white valley]

Perfect strike is better lol

[calm lagoon]

I expected it too chunk with a ton of damage on the release of the M2

[acoustic jacinth]

Sadly not

Don't get me wrong

M2 is great for elites

Crushers, maulers, 1 tap the gunners

But not boss weapon

[calm lagoon]

If your running eviscerator at all, especially the mark with the shit comboes I like, I think you don't mind slightly shitter perks

[acoustic jacinth]

Perfect strike and shred seem to give the best value tbh. And that's coming from someone who tried almost every blessing including bloodletter

[calm lagoon]

Dueling sword with thrust and precog for bossing I'm guessing

[acoustic jacinth]

Not necessarily but that will be great ofc, it's duelling sword

I use force greatsword with EK, both for horde clear and boss purposes

Since EK

Is fairly single target as you know

[cosmic cobalt]

no one because it suck

[calm lagoon]

Assail or smite for ad clear/control, chain axe for big armoured fucks, electrokinetic as your multipurpose single target, fun generic slop build

[cosmic cobalt]

you think evis might have better single target

[white valley]

Perfect strike is insane, its effectively a +300% cleave bonus on crit and makes you ignore carapace hitstop

[acoustic jacinth]

Assail with perilous combustion and shriek could work for horde clear yeah

[calm lagoon]

Greatswords single target combos fuck, I love lining up the stab and just touching up the crushers neck

[calm lagoon]

Assail alongside DOT stuff is ridiculously satisfying from my experience

[white valley]

I wish relic blade had a crit blessing

[acoustic jacinth]

Yeah, honestly i use mk2 eviscerator not just because i like the moveset but also due to the synergy i find with perfect strike. H1 is horizontal, so i line up the maulers/crushers ahead, get my fury ready and bob's your uncle

Perfect strike will chop them all

But this also worries me

Because it sucks to see my weapon be hard carried by a class and a blessing

When stuff like power sword just needs a singular functioning brain cell

[calm lagoon]

I'm glad assail can be put into more builds now cuz of the tree changes, it's always been my favorite blitz due too versatility and basically just making you yondu. It's great as a ranged elite tool for the squishy ones, it's great ad clear, and it comboes well with a lot of perks you'd be picking up anyways

[cosmic cobalt]

it's pretty much only useful on staff if you run like ek but no shout anyway

[calm lagoon]

Confession: bolt pistol or revolver psyker used too be my go too build and I still hold it in my heart dearly

[white valley]

Yeah I've even tried eviscerator with chorus this patch and it's just so bad, the weapon just needs FOTF

It's decently strong with it, but it's a shame how much it relies on it

[acoustic jacinth]

Oh definitely man. You NEED to have perfect strike on demand with carapace trains

Exactly

It's not independantly good

And that succs

When like

Chainsword

Is on steroids now

[white valley]

relic blade for example functions perfectly fine with chorus or fotf

[acoustic jacinth]

What sort of logic

[white valley]

What's the chainsword build atm?

[calm lagoon]

If it involves blood letter I'll cheer, that perk aesthetically alone is raw

[white valley]

Bloodletter feels awesome but is often only useful on monstrosities

[calm lagoon]

I'm bored can I get the weirdest comboes of weapons on psyker y'all know and I'll try make a build with the weirdest one I see on gameslantern after I get my lunch 😝 😝

[acoustic jacinth]

I personally use mk4 with wrath and shred. Not a lot of people use the mk4 but hear this, overhead light followed by overhead heavy infinite combo. 2 tap ragers, 1 tap gunners with the heavy

[pulsar hazel]

afaik theres a potentially unintentional interaction where smites subnode charged strike works with empowered psionics

its a bit absurd

[calm lagoon]

Is that the IV one? I haven't had too read Roman numerals in forever

[acoustic jacinth]

Yep

[white valley]

IV is 4 yes

[calm lagoon]

I love that one too, the overhead combo is goated your right

[acoustic jacinth]

V = 5 numbers before roman numericals = - numbers after = +

[pulsar hazel]

which is good cus mk4 horde clear is just heavy spam

[acoustic jacinth]

Heavies are good for horde clesr with wrath

[calm lagoon]

the horde clear is fairly easy too pick up too

[acoustic jacinth]

Yes

[pulsar hazel]

its so absurd like, 1 heavy is able to DOT finish ragers on auric

this shit cant be intentional right

[calm lagoon]

I hope it is ngl, I hope it stays in the game for a bit either way

[white valley]

Oh but this is for funni chainsword psyker

[calm lagoon]

It's fun, charged strikes being OP for like a week seems funny

[pulsar hazel]

i mean it kinda is only viable on chsword and shock maul. i guess chaxe but cleave cap on it seems absurdly mean

[pastel bough]

sorry to interrupt, whens the ideal situation to use assail? im an unfamiliar gunker, im assuming its to help with horde clear?

[pulsar hazel]

fr i feel like playing great axe slayer from vt2

[summer prairie]

heavy sword hello

[pulsar hazel]

need more peril for high peril% talents
use assail
horde is a bit too far from your sword
use assail
oh shit a sniper
use assail

basically

[calm lagoon]

Horde clear when it's a soft horde, squishy specials far away you don't wanna waste staff/ammo on

[pulsar hazel]

ya

[calm lagoon]

I want too make heavy sword work more than I want too have my wife back but we don't always get what we want in life or divorce settlements do we😔 ✊

[pulsar hazel]

oh yeah heavy sword i guess

i might use that with the funny EP build

[calm lagoon]

Heavy sword EK? Maybe?

Make it cleave a fuck ton?

[pulsar hazel]

ive been just using revolver actually 😭

playing it like zealot with gaze

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/53dhy9

[pulsar hazel]

free crit talent means you store up a crit like a vet would

[pastel bough]

thanks gang

[pulsar hazel]

its fun

[calm lagoon]

Your welcome vro

[acoustic jacinth]

I run it on vet so i can larp as a cadian :D WS is nice to make your overheard chains more cancerous but not necessary

[white valley]

Fair

[calm lagoon]

Question about empowered psionics, it says empowered assail doesn't consume any charges yet it consumes charges when used. What is EP, stupid?

[pulsar hazel]

you charge it 10-15% per kill or 100% per elite kill depending on the subnode

[wispy bay]

Parry is heavy attack, right?

[pulsar hazel]

mouse over the talent and it'll elaborate nd stuff

[wispy bay]

Can you test it on Dclaw?

[pulsar hazel]

you consume charges by using your blitz

[summer prairie]

dclaw parry is

[wispy bay]

Charged strike parry

[summer prairie]

but it doesn't have good cleave

[wispy bay]

Well, I care for the meme.

[calm lagoon]

O ok

[acoustic jacinth]

The smite subnode is actually great now. But i wouldn't know i just have 0 experience with smite

[cosmic cobalt]

how to use smite: don't

[calm lagoon]

I used too be a hater yet yeah smite is good now

[acoustic jacinth]

KF BB since 1997

[calm lagoon]

EP smite is great

[pulsar hazel]

EP smite is even better when you dont use it

:^)

off topic but does enfeeble work with the funny charged strike tech

[marble crater]

"Traitor joined Strike Team"

[calm lagoon]

Ngl an EP brain blast spam build could be fun

[jovial juniper]

Yes

Enfeeble is mandatory

[summer prairie]

it makes it tick faster

[pulsar hazel]

oooh

i see

that seems buggy as shit 💀

[calm lagoon]

Can a gaze voidstrike spam speak a lil espanol

[wispy bay]

SG Vstrike with surge and flurry is funny.

The volume of fire is quite insane.

[calm lagoon]

Surge and that one 20+ bonus damage on additional projectiles perk, crit aura

🥺

[pastel bough]

that sounds fun af

[wispy bay]

Sustain fire, but it is too slow.

Flurry gives faster charge

[plucky flax]

Any stealth knife memer?

[loud girder]

wtf

[calm lagoon]

You'd have too be cracked at dodging but I can see it being stupid and fun

[plucky flax]

Damn I get hit all the time.

[calm lagoon]

Maybe the extra dodge perk, gaze, DD?

[plucky flax]

Oh I'm more meaning zealot.

Psyker stealth when?

[calm lagoon]

Twin

Wrong channel cro

https://tenor.com/view/hello-cro-crow-team-crow-hello-animal-gif-7086727397455856012

[plucky flax]

I don't go to other channel.

Only here.

They have cooty.

[calm lagoon]

Zealot stealth knife ain't even a meme it's just a goated build with a kinda meh keystone

If your insanely good, running martydom could be fun

[plucky flax]

Hmm tru

I was thinking the right one.

Judgment or something.

[pulsar hazel]

i used to run this back when martyrdom was bad XD

i might pick it back up again now that you've mentioned it

if you have a build gib

[calm lagoon]

Not anything specifically but uhh

Rending backstab blessing, crit dodge cus your not taking left keystone, go down right track mainly stopping too pick up some rapid attacks do X perks for horde clear, maybe take flamer for stagger

Also take the stagger nearby enemies on backstab kill perk

[pulsar hazel]

can i take uncanny instead

[calm lagoon]

Yeah

Instead of crit dodge uncanny is good

[pulsar hazel]

you mean riposte + rending backstab

is that wym with crit dodge

[calm lagoon]

Yet not taking rending backstab is just an unused opportunity

[calm lagoon]

Yeah yeah

[plucky flax]

Is the supress talent ogod?

[pulsar hazel]

mk3 or da otha one

[calm lagoon]

Yeah it's great

[plucky flax]

Does it supress elites?

I am quite starved for points with my goofy build.

[calm lagoon]

It suppresses everything on backstab, you gotta take it too avoid being molested by crushers in a horde the moment you kill one enemy

[plucky flax]

I'll try to fit it in.

[calm lagoon]

The one with the heavy stab instead of the heavy swing, heavy stab gives movement tech and more damage if I'm remembering correctly

[pulsar hazel]

smth like this?

[calm lagoon]

Yeah seems decent, just mix and match stuff too personal preference yet you got all the essentials for the build down

[pulsar hazel]

and ya running what

mk3 with flak/unyielding + riposte/ruthless backstab?

[calm lagoon]

Swap flak for carapace

[pulsar hazel]

alr

do you run anything special for the ranged or just the usual bistol

[calm lagoon]

Especially with this and especially if you wanna run uncanny

[pulsar hazel]

i'll run ruthless just because you told me nicely to :-)

[calm lagoon]

Whatever you want, you have throwing knives for ranged and your knife takes out anything bigger than 5ft tall so anything with any amount of horde clear would be good

New bistol mark could be fun

[pulsar hazel]

i might bring boltgun for elite packs

the suppression into boltgun mag dump sounds fun

[calm lagoon]

Good idea

[pulsar hazel]

not fully sold on ruthless tho i might tap in on uncanny

since i'll be using knife a lot it should be stacked up before i butt poke a crusher but idk

hm 3.5s tho

[calm lagoon]

You get a majority of your value from backshots, free guaranteed rending over circumstancial rending (you might lose your uncanny stacks while moving to the crusher, might be unable too grab while invisible) is the way too go imo

[plucky flax]

H40 plague ogryn seems good

I didn't have backstab blessing.

Just uncanny and lacerate.

[pulsar hazel]

yea ur prob right

i forgot its only 3.5s

[calm lagoon]

Backstab blessing would give a little less while being more consistent imo

If you prove me wrong tho I'll swap my knife immediately

[plucky flax]

Hmm I was thinking about overall damage against horde and stuff too.

Lacerate gonna help horde clear.

[calm lagoon]

I find that if your gonna run stealth knife the idea is too avoid/not use your melee on hordes as much as possible

[plucky flax]

RIP ammo?

[calm lagoon]

Eh, shroud field and the occasional flamer use isn't too harsh on your ammo

Saw a comment on a video which immediately makes me wanna run EP brainblast with perilous combustion

[acoustic jacinth]

FOR THE MASTER OF MANKIIINDD

[steel flame]

Zazy has been cookin for suicide survivor build for 2 days now.

God I wish it worked on specials

[plucky flax]

1 crackhead fanatic vs ogryn blessed by chaos god

[acoustic jacinth]

the amasec he drank yesterday was kicking in

[steel flame]

I cannot for the life of me figure out why they decided to make crystalline only work on elites. It's especially annoying that it can one shot specials with its current damage but none of the elites except shotgun

And it puts your weapons away when you pop so you can't even eek more damage out with weapon perks

[young cliff]

Unfair fight, need a second ogryn to make it so it's not so one-sided

[steel flame]

Best I've come up with so far is brittle trauma staff with really low peril resist.

Can't pair it with flayer, cause that will steal my victims, cant use soul blaze build cause that will just kill everything in the time it takes me to pop

I tried my mega peril gen sword but that still takes too long

I'm work shopping a smite suicide build. Lock everything down, walk in, nuke the place

But the second I have anyone with eyeballs all my elite targets get smooshed and it still takes ages since I can't actually blow up with smite

Shame

If anyone knows of anything with more instantaneous peril generation from 0-100 then 20% warp res fgs, I would love to know

Hmmmmmmm

[static vessel]

I like purge staff

very good

I feel like I got a lot of control of a horde

but with psyker being physically weak I need to manvuer more

a lot more than zealot

but I love the melee so much

so much that I forget to use my staff sometimes.

[steel flame]

That is what infinite cleave dot with massive stagger on demand tends to do

[static vessel]

yeeeeeep

[steel flame]

Want a melee only warp fire build?

[static vessel]

I think it's one of the easiest staffs to use, so I think I wanna branch off eventually.

[steel flame]

It's super fun

[static vessel]

Hmmm sure I might try that one out later.

[steel flame]

Very tank

[static vessel]

Yeah!

[steel flame]

One sec

So there is a choice in this between perfect timing and just a dream. More damage or more tank in melee brawl, both options good

Sub 25% warp resist on the FGS is not mandatory anymore with update, 40% will still get you peril for max SB stacks on vent

Any higher and it takes 3 activations from 0 to get max vent stacks

[pulsar hazel]

after some testing i think left keystones prob a bit better

getting consistent crits makes it a lot less painful to use outside of backstabs only

if you're a chad you can also drop thy wrath be swift and unseen blade to save 2-3 points

the 15% damage bonus doesn't seem to affect crusher bps in auric damage scaling but ofc havoc is a diff story

[calm lagoon]

Fair enough

[pulsar hazel]

ty for making me try it out tho

[steel flame]

@static vessel You do not need to use a ranged weapon with this build at all, but if nothing else I recommend laspistol for little extra boss damage, though the gs still handles them

[pulsar hazel]

also good call on behind the lines, it is genuinely pretty decent

[steel flame]

@static vessel Essentially the way the build works is that you disregard the fgs charge meter, it is your ranged stagger tool and your source of peril. Able to Max your peril out on demand, meaning you will always be maxed out on all peril buffs. Build also maxes out maleficent momentum since fire tics and warp slash tick the warp half while your unga bunga melee maxed out the non warp side . Essentially every stack buff is maxed out at all times, so despite not having a keystone, the damage output is insane