psyker-class

[rancid geyser]

and no one here shows video footage showing them using builds

this IS online

your logic is really weird

[fierce crest]

also here you can ask questions to the builder directly

[zealous wing]

so, BB, with kinetic flayer, yes, psionics, no. warp siphon is mainly there for dmg yes, but also shriek cooldown

[rancid geyser]

and out of all ppl you tell them to go to the test room warrior tanner

of all ppl

[void hearth]

maybe if you sit in a call with them, but even then youre kinda just a random bum vs a youtuber has hours of content showing them use the builds with builds credibility vs all you have is kinda just yapping

[fierce crest]

huzzah

[void hearth]

you can do that anywhere lol

[thin knoll]

I like kinetic flayer. Why all the hate for it now?

[zealous wing]

i trust the code hunters that like the game more than the people who clout chase, ngl

[void hearth]

darktide content creaters arnt that big to where you cant just ask them a question

[rancid geyser]

so why make a comment that could dissuade someone from doing it here?

[zealous wing]

there is no hate for it

[rancid geyser]

the logic

[fierce crest]

@tanner why no perilous on your gun psyker build

didnt work

[thin knoll]

I see tanner heads hating it

[zealous wing]

🙄

same vibe as mister E telling people day one smite was the meta

[thin knoll]

Idk if his builds are good

[fierce crest]

KF is good, you dont need psionics with it

since youre not normal BBing very often

[rancid geyser]

see im not gunna lie, if the guy just said watch a tanner vid i wouldnt care as much, but to say basically to ignore the ppl here and go to that dudes YT or guides is kinda wild

[zealous wing]

kinetic flayer will every 12s pop the head of an elite or specialist with every possible attack.

so if things are on fire, something's head is gonna explode

[fierce crest]

feels really nice with inferno since its basically proccing on cooldown every time

[rancid geyser]

its just based on what he thinks is good, with 0 proof of viability via gameplay

[zealous wing]

there is no downside to KF, except the chance of aggroing a daemonhost

[rancid geyser]

just him sitting in the training area

[fierce crest]

or just 1shots the first important target you see at the start of a fight

(crushers not included)

[rancid geyser]

only props i can give tanner for are his videos not including darktide

[void hearth]

ill be real bro i dont use this server ever but every time i do i swear some of the most henous braindamaged people seem to come from here. Any time someone asks me to use a voice channel here for havoc they end up being some of the most insufferable people and i like to think i have a pretty high threshold.. . so yes. I trust people more who dont associate with the main darktide server much more than any active user here lol

[verbal thistle]

Man.

So much harm tanner has done on this community

[modest perch]

i havent had a single win all day

[rancid geyser]

the guy literally just makes videos about i think this is good and if you think other stuff is good you are dumb, he gets called out on it then blocks ppl and removes the video [I would know because he came in here attacking me for calling him out -- dm me just to block me and removed the video]

[modest perch]

this sucks tbh

[zealous wing]

then why the fuck are you here dude

honestly

if you feel its that toxic, why stay

[void hearth]

as someone who doesnt really hold a side i see a lot of circlejerking about hating content creators come from here specifically

[void hearth]

i was checking the modding discord for something else and saw this one next to it

thought ide check in...

glad to see nothings changed tho :3

[zealous wing]

youve been in here for 3 years

[void hearth]

ya ?

i joined when the game came out

that doesnt mean im an active user lol

[zealous wing]

so you come in here to complain about people complaining about dumbass takes?

[void hearth]

im also in the bloodmoon inn server for vermintide 1

[fierce crest]

tanner is not good at understanding his own playstyle

[void hearth]

and i havent looked in there since like 2018

[fierce crest]

and likes to call the build that fits that playstyle the META

[rancid geyser]

never asked for that opinion but cool i guess -- throwing ppl all under an unbrella because of your few or however many experiences feels just as henous and braindamaged as you claim those ppl to be

lacking much forethought our critical thinking

[void hearth]

i mean not really

[thin knoll]

How do yall feel about vulnerable minds or warp ghost?

[void hearth]

there arnt that many active users

[fierce crest]

if something is 80% as good, its garbage

[void hearth]

so when a good chunk of them seem like bad actors

[fierce crest]

if something is better for a different playstyle, its garbage

[zealous wing]

both are good, WG is good for any build, VM is good for bosskilling builds (gunker mainly) and is a spare point if oyu have one for other builds

[fierce crest]

he has no ability for nuance

so is a poor resource for new players

[void hearth]

and then i look in and see others having similar takes and mannerisms and such it kinda just reinforces my view of things

[acoustic jacinth]

I take both honestly. If you are really so tight on talent points you can't fit both, i'd be surprised tbh, probably post your whole build here if you like

[rancid geyser]

confirmation bias, placed on your self by yourself

[void hearth]

adding in the fact that this place has 0 moderation and that the even cms stopped communicating in here feels kinda telling lol

[rancid geyser]

smart ppl ask

and see other views

[void hearth]

i mean sure you can say that

[rancid geyser]

not cry about others that dont agree with them and assume they are in the same boat as others they had bad experiences with

[zealous wing]

block and move on yall they're just here to irritate

[void hearth]

im not saying everyone in here is bad

[fierce crest]

i just watched some stuff get modded in zealot chat like 30 min ago

they were being saucy

[zealous wing]

you literally did

[rancid geyser]

based on what you typed you damn well made the assumption

[acoustic jacinth]

Continue to pester and irritate. Mayhap we send some pre-servitors down there, hammer and tong.

[void hearth]

but what i am saying is that if i plug a random person out of here who is an active darktide discord dater (a tripple D) i would bed they arnt the brightest bulb yk

[fierce crest]

nvm it was a couple hours ago, time flies

[rancid geyser]

this includes you

enough with that convo

[void hearth]

again im not an active user lol

[rancid geyser]

make smarter comments -- at least more thought out ones

[void hearth]

my statement is directed at active community members of the darktide discord

[rancid geyser]

nothing you have said was even helpful when someone was actively seeking help

[void hearth]

i mean all i said was that tanner is a valid source, and that they should play what they enjoy, and again if theyre trying to go for a meta build looking at tanner videos is fine

thats kinda it

i dont think thats a very crazy thing to say to a new player

[fierce crest]

as a response to someone looking for a not tanner source

[rancid geyser]

im fairly inactive here as i join sporadically, but i have only ever had 2 bad interactions here tanner was the worst -- he's gone and i am happy i was part of said reason

[void hearth]

they wernt looking for not a tanner source

they asked if there was something wrong with that source

or just for tips

[rancid geyser]

you im not going to make an assumption on, but we not just gunna have you be passive aggressive to any one just because of some shite that happened not really pertaining to the situation

no one here has been less than helpful here these past few days

[void hearth]

and my tip was if what they were doing looked diff to what the video shows clearly they are missing something

since if they wernt missing anything then it would look like what they expect. .. .

where have i been passive aggressive T.T

[thin knoll]

Idk what i should change if anything. It's a purg staff build.

[void hearth]

i guess i made a general statement but idk if i would call that passive aggressive

[zealous wing]

thats pretty good

almost point for point what i have

[acoustic jacinth]

I'd take off KF for ogryn and monstrosity, but your pathing is solid

[rancid geyser]

''folks here are not the brightest ignore them. play what you think is fun. if you want to do meta tanner is a good source.''

[zealous wing]

ogryn dmg isnt that big of a bump for inferno imo

[void hearth]

i think going bubble would prob be better then shriek now. before i was a bubble hater but with the changes i dont think you need VS anymore to stack soulflame

[rancid geyser]

not exactly a passive comment

couldnt even be percieved as positive or constructive either

daft or no?

[zealous wing]

would trade quietude for creeping flames, if you DO decide to switch but dont know what to drop

[thin knoll]

I agree bubble is probably better, but I just hate bubble. I just don't enjoy playing it. Purely a matter of taste for me.

[void hearth]

since the elite node overcharges soulflame stacks V.S doesnt do too much to add to that stack

[zealous wing]

yeah a lot of people come around begging for psykers to take bubble because they dont know how to take cover

[void hearth]

and having bubble to help deal with gunners and plasma in havoc is prob better

[void hearth]

ya i get it

[acoustic jacinth]

I don't think it could get beat by KF regardless (despite purg procing it ASAP). Also i just saw no creeping flames you're right. Something needs to be switched

[void hearth]

i didnt like playing with it either before this patch

[rancid geyser]

let those that want bubble take it -- the game is more engaging without it

i agree with your sentiment

[zealous wing]

yeah seriously, if they need it so badly, they can run it

its not the most fun gameplay

[thin knoll]

Its great in havoc, but I also want to get better at payker because I main ogryn, and I feel like bubble would allow me to play worse with fewer consequences

[void hearth]

(as in didnt like other people running it really and didnt like it myself either bc i felt that they were missing out on a lot of dps and didnt really know how to use it)

[void hearth]

its other way round i think

bubble just kinda sucks bc its a noob trap

[thin knoll]

Well yeah, that's what I mean

[void hearth]

like you think its doing something but in reality its just cosmetic

if that makes sense

[rancid geyser]

it actively made me worse, kinda like playing arby -- you develop slight bad habits

at least i did

[void hearth]

youre better off running gaze

bubble if youre going into havoc

[runic juniper]

bubble is more of a special counter than it is gunner. the special combos that instagib you get shutdown in any situation where theres a bubble

[void hearth]

and VS almost never prob since it was only good to stack soulflame but now you dont need it to do that

[runic juniper]

until plasma became a thing

[rancid geyser]

been trying to join for the longest XD

[void hearth]

and gaze is just better in every way since it does the same things + gigabuffing you

[restive slate]

I've been reading the pins but did not find specifics for Melee Psyker

Suggestions please?

[zealous wing]

we're still running tests on stuff, so nothing solid, and the main guys are asleep

they have more solid stuff than i know yet

well asleep or busy

[runic juniper]

not much difference in build other than the few melee specific talents and movement speed. every psyker build is going to be really good at melee, just usually with a better ranged option

[thin knoll]

So for a voidblast rending Shockwave build, would stacking vulnerable minds and penetration of the soul make it decent for boss/armor/ogryn killing, or is that type of build better suited for a different staff?

[void hearth]

no. i dont think its passive aggressive to give people confidence to ignore the opinion of others and do what they think is best. esp when that opinion comes from people who have been historically questionable when it comes to playing the game. realistically there are servers with havoc groups who would give much better advice than anyone typing in the official darktide channels which includes me. so if you are going to look for advice on discord do it in a place more geared for meta advice. otherwise just do your own thing since meta doesnt really matter anyway and you can solo havoc 40 with full grey gear and enough skill :3

[rancid geyser]

just saying ty btw because i got all of these playing with you today

[zealous wing]

gg

[rancid geyser]

+6% toughness

[zealous wing]

big step

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[zealous wing]

[acoustic jacinth]

It will be good for ogryn/armor but trying to staff bosses will always come out worse than meleeing them. I use EK this way, for ogryns and general armor

[restive slate]

What ranged option do you suggest? A staff can work?

[zealous wing]

usually its a gun

guns can pack a good punch even without talents specifically for it

[rancid geyser]

'' that opinion comes from people who have been historically questionable when it comes to playing the game'' who?!

lmao

[thin knoll]

Is kinetic presence ever better than just taking the cdr aura?

[restive slate]

Laspistol ok?

[rancid geyser]

and that is also not a passive comment

[runic juniper]

staffs that you can do reliably good m1 attacks with, or a gun. with a gun you kind of need scriers to help you build peril

[zealous wing]

ye im finding laspistol working fine

its not my favourite but its decent

laspistol is also good because you CAN build peril with it

[runic juniper]

las pistol is neat cus of the psyker push at least, just a quicker force sword push attack

[rancid geyser]

''realistically there are servers with havoc groups who would give much better advice than anyone typing in the official darktide channels which includes me'' -- except there are ppl literally sharing builds and gameplay of them in havoc 40 in this very chat

[zealous wing]

its actually slower but, its fiine

it has 2m more reach, in my rough testing

[jagged mica]

this build goes so fucking hard. horde clearing, priority picking and monstrosity killing for days
having an absolute blast with it

[rancid geyser]

@void hearth i dont see how you cant see how others would veiw your negitive comments as problematic since they are based on ancidots of ppl you 1) dont want to name call here 2) probably aren't here and/or 3) probably aren't here

these comments really aren't anything but toxic and negative until you reform your comments into such things without downplaying our indirectly attacking ppl on the server or the server itself

[zealous wing]

kuro, honestly, block them. they're fishing for a fight

a fight in their mind proves them right, even if they started it

[thin knoll]

Is warp rupture worth anything?

[void hearth]

sure but what im saying is i would trust someone from a smaller more dedicated server. but again thats just me

[zealous wing]

not really

its still pretty useless

creeping flames is the infinitely better choice of the two

[runic juniper]

There are people here who are amazing, but youre right, anyone could come in here and say something

[long saddle]

but they'd be grey

[void hearth]

literally everyone in any of the class channels does this all the time i dont know why my take is any diff. im not saying its right or wrong but i do think its more generally applicable here since this server (atleast from what ive seen) seems like much more of an echo chamber than others

[runic juniper]

no real harm though if you get someone touting kinetic deflection and going block only psyker

[rancid geyser]

sadly this is true but more so because of synergy

[long saddle]

what is block only psyker beside some parry build?

or do you mean to use with like shriek

[zealous wing]

probably similar to a smyker

[runic juniper]

no parry, just using force sword with deflector in a horde of melee specials hoping your team kills all the stuff crowded around you like a useless version of a taunt ogryn lmao

[rancid geyser]

where there is a server of like minded ppl, you find those that echo shit that they agree with, the same way you would if someone agreed with you -- it really just seems like ppl did something you didnt like and now because ppl are attached to a server that you got slighted on you are acting out against them --- NO on here did what you claimed, you are spiting ppl who are actually trying to help

[zealous wing]

someone who doesnt know how to fight or position, focusing on only defense, never offense,

[rancid geyser]

leave me alone now bruh

[long saddle]

ok so not a build, but a skill issue

[zealous wing]

come purge heretics with me

[rancid geyser]

small minds make poor company for deep thoughts

could have just rectified the issue by taking back the toxic shit

[long saddle]

now I want to make a shriek parry psyker

[runic juniper]

it was a really funny week in this chat, i forget the dude's name but his mind was set

[void hearth]

I run something like this with GS and LasPist. Idk if you could run this in havoc 40 tbh but its very fun :) You can also swap out psyk aura and the cooldown aura for crit aura just to get empathic evasion. but then i feel bad for my team losing out on cooldown regen which is why i take mid.

[zealous wing]

do it

we had a 3 suipsyker run earlier

[long saddle]

maybe with new ds parry

I haven't tried it

oh I need to do that too

[zealous wing]

just be careful with shriek/sg and CW

[void hearth]

i have literally never been slighted here bro T.T

[zealous wing]

the bug is bad with the combo

if you use it to save yourself, you still take corruption

[runic juniper]

ds parry really good but you gotta aim down and to the right of where you want to hit

[rancid geyser]

reading comprehension

i wont treat you like a child

drop it

[zealous wing]

so if you overload its better to just go boom, and at least clear some stuff for your pain

[long saddle]

wait, what's the safe CW way then

[void hearth]

LOL

[zealous wing]

explode when intended, or shriek/sg before actual overload

[long saddle]

ah ok I gotcha

[void hearth]

wernt you talking about passive agressivness earlier ? and now youre actively just being aggressive because you dont like that i validated someone elses choice that you disagree with? again i want to point out i have never made any claims about you, just general noticings ive has as an outside of this community who really doesnt have a horse in this race.

[acoustic jacinth]

This is a no brainer on my EK, but do you think i'd pull better dps with purg SG warp unbound? With how sb is

[long saddle]

fight fight fight

kiss kiss kiss

[wraith sphinx]

damn what's going on here

[rancid geyser]

i am being agressive yes, but you are reading and miscontruing many things -- you may referr back to everything i @ you with later with a more level head 🙂

[zealous wing]

some asshole is coming in here picking fights, says tanners a good source for psyker meta builds

among other things

[void hearth]

i disagreed with a guy about this server being a haven and now theyre all mad

[zealous wing]

just, overall being irritating

[void hearth]

i just dont see how im being irritating tbh lol

[rancid geyser]

not sure who said you were

we just claim you to be wrong

[void hearth]

ok

lol

[rancid geyser]

some of you comments may also lack thought behind them

lets talk about something else

[void hearth]

it just seems that this is a little hostile no? "some asshole is coming in here picking fights, says tanners a good source for psyker meta builds
among other things"

[rancid geyser]

yes?

[long saddle]

this is the first darktide server I found that wasn't dead

[long saddle]

granted I've only been in 3

[void hearth]

"just, overall being irritating"

[rancid geyser]

you didnt eactly start your interaction in here with positivity or neutrality

[void hearth]

and you DARE speak to me about reading comprehension ?

[zealous wing]

its 0932, i havent slept, have to be awake at least 3 more hours. if you think im hostile, sure. im a bit irritable atm

[void hearth]

i mean i think i was fairly neutral

[rancid geyser]

you have not cited me sir try again

[pastel bough]

whats a fun psyker build this patch, just done flame staff atm

[void hearth]

all i said was tanner is a fine place to get info, to play what you think is fun, and to not fall for hate trains that tend to start here

and that was enough to get eberyone mad

everyone*

[rancid geyser]

false

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff65af5-e96e-48a9-b91d-34f8b76124b8/hexis-the-berpsyker
gunker is mega fun

some variation of this

[wraith sphinx]

Tanner isn't a good information source though

[zealous wing]

its specifically being tailored to my playstyle so change whatever you like tbh

[wraith sphinx]

I've not heard of a single good take from them

[pastel bough]

oh sweet, i liked this a lot a year or so ago, time to go brr

[void hearth]

ya i said this in respose to you not him

[paper harbor]

In official Darktide, community told tanner isn’t good builder, they decide make him a laugh stock.

[rancid geyser]

dont lie when there are reciepts

hehe

[void hearth]

bro said hehe in the big 25

lowkey i take everything back

this is the reason to not come here for advice

bc this guy just said hehe unironically

[paper harbor]

Let’s forget it

[zealous wing]

hehe

[pastel bough]

dentge

[void hearth]

big double down bro

very alpha giga of you

[rancid geyser]

yikes

the buzz words

[void hearth]

STAND ON BUSINESS !

[zealous wing]

im feeling very assholeish, dont mind me, i dont mind picking a fight at this point

[void hearth]

LOL

[zealous wing]

see with a single hehe i can send him off his rocker

he mad now

[void hearth]

it gets better

[acoustic jacinth]

Hmm, i personally believe in self taught for these types of games in general. Discussions and sharing builds are good and whatnot, but at the end of the day it helps a player actually learn to make their own builds using what resources they have 🤔

[void hearth]

from hehe to doge

we can barely go lower

[rancid geyser]

that wasn't very demure of you man -- we arent trying to send ppl off to other servers....

[void hearth]

whats next ?

[paper harbor]

Swirly don’t take too much ego on this conversation

Slow down

[fierce crest]

too late

[long saddle]

insert the maniacal hehe from seer psyker

[fierce crest]

i beat a mission and theyre still here

[void hearth]

what does this mean

[fierce crest]

the ego is in shambles

[zealous wing]

bro youve got an ACSII bio, dont use that shit as a defense

[paper harbor]

You were upsetting what they doing to you.

[void hearth]

ya you lowkey right i stole this from my friend 8 years ago and havent changed it

[void hearth]

im not upset at all

giggling to myself in real time

[rancid geyser]

the psyker brainrot's affecting us irl

[paper harbor]

🤨 ????!!!!

[acoustic jacinth]

But my psyker is smart and self aware );

[void hearth]

lowkey i dont even know why im in the psyker channel you'd think ide be looking at the zealot once considering i play him more

[runic juniper]

and how many times has he blown himself up?

[rancid geyser]

mine has dialogues with himself, we're not the same buddy

[void hearth]

lowkey best personality in the game

[acoustic jacinth]

Depends on how edgy he's feeling today. I do play Loner after all

OH NOOO, TRAPPPERRR

[void hearth]

but also loner and bully ogryn are both voiced by the same guy so maybe not .. .

[acoustic jacinth]

[void hearth]

a kekw has hit the chatroom

[zealous wing]

i need this convo but with fem fanatic btw, anavar, if you can ever catch it

[fierce crest]

owned

[rancid geyser]

i actually like the convos they have about practicing their speech

feels like i havent heard any of them in a long while tho

[void hearth]

they rotate lines in and out

so maybe thets why

thats*

[jagged mica]

caught a glance at someone saying that the bubble shield was a noob trap, but not more than that. how so, o' sparky ones?

[acoustic jacinth]

My friend plays that, i can take recording sometime

Oh btw im still curious

[void hearth]

they can be

[acoustic jacinth]

Have you ever ran purg sg

[void hearth]

but not always

[acoustic jacinth]

Ive ran shriek for 2000 years

[rancid geyser]

not a noob trap imo, just a crutch @jagged mica

[zealous wing]

me? not yet. i can give it a run next auric with beans

[void hearth]

post rework shriek is kinda not as good with purge

[ripe obsidian]

fuckin' what

[zealous wing]

ayyy the nerds here

[jagged mica]

can you elaborate? i'd appreciate it

[void hearth]

because souldrinker stacks soulflame higher than shriek can now

[ripe obsidian]

what the fuck are you talking about

[void hearth]

and the reason it was good because was because you could quickly stack soulflame

[void hearth]

normally stacks cap at 15

[ripe obsidian]

okay, you're a troll. Got it.

[zealous wing]

been talking out his ass for nearly an hour good luck have fun BYEEEE

[acoustic jacinth]

Yea thats the thing. I still creeping flames shriek everything so i can't speak for it

[pastel bough]

they were ragebaiting like 10 mins ago

[void hearth]

wait no wrong node

whats it called

[rancid geyser]

more like it enforces bad habits and expected play patterns from those that use or are used to it -- ppl forget that cover exists and always expect it so they havent reinforced using the map and line of sight

[void hearth]

the one where killing an elite or special spreads soulflame

[acoustic jacinth]

Perilous combustion

[ripe obsidian]

PC worked exactly the same before.

It did not change.

[void hearth]

PC

\

ya

it did change

it now overstacks

so before you could stack up 15 normally

[ripe obsidian]

it always did

[void hearth]

and it would just cap at 15

[ripe obsidian]

No

You're just wrong

[void hearth]

but now they changed it so that specific node can stack to 31 or 32 im p sure

[void hearth]

i dont think it did this before

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, it did.

[void hearth]

thats why its so much better now

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek also stacks to 31

[strong gulch]

PC has only been limited by the global 31 stacks.

[ripe obsidian]

It has literally always gone up to 31

[strong gulch]

15 is specific to purg

[jagged mica]

that makes sense. why work on your own position when the psyker can just toss up a safe area anywhere, and when it runs out you're stuck in the open

[void hearth]

ok thats what it is maybe

i know it did change somehow 100%

[ripe obsidian]

it didn't

[void hearth]

but honestly i dont play psyker enough to know exactly how let me look it up rq

[jagged mica]

appreciate the insight, kuro

[long saddle]

use double shield instead and learn all chokepoints on all maps

[void hearth]

ok maybe this is just something with purge staff

[ripe obsidian]

inferno didn't change either

[void hearth]

but this patch the change is that PC can overload with purge staff

vs before it couldnt

[ripe obsidian]

you really are talking out of your ass

[glacial vapor]

It's been meta in high havoc for a long time.

But it can teach you bad habits, like poor positioning and gives you crazy toughness regen to make up for mistakes.

Use it but learn to play without it too

[void hearth]

no not at all

you can just fact check this lol

[ripe obsidian]

I read the code regularly.

[void hearth]

its the interaction between them

[ripe obsidian]

I'm just gonna mute you and move on.

[void hearth]

clearly you missed something because there was 100% a change

ok lol

[acoustic jacinth]

I mean, show a source for this, something, anything that could help the discussion

[long saddle]

I should prob use it a bit more in reg play to not be rusty, as I only use it in havoc lol

[strong gulch]

Wasn't. PC could always stack to 31. Shriek can also stack to 31.

Well creeping flames assumed

[rancid geyser]

if only that were how that went, but in reality psyker almost always have bubble if you are actively sitting in one until it runs out

[void hearth]

i mean the easiest one i can give is from a Mr.E video about some hidden changes this patch

i think tanner might have also talked about it but idk

maybe the change was that it can now proc off of soulblaze?

so its easier to stack?

up to global cap i mean

[strong gulch]

PC can proc off SB, but that is not new

[void hearth]

there is 100% a change that has to do with the way the caps work

https://youtu.be/hcZBr_FhXDI?si=Y7F8zCy-fYr6hkTa&t=51

maybe you can tell me what the difference is then because as far as i understood from a few diff psykers in game

and this video

there was a change to the way that overstacking works with this node

which makes it easier to maintain the max cap instead of the purge cap of 15

[glacial vapor]

I almost never use it

[void hearth]

so youre on new patch you basically dont need shriek since you get to the max cap much faster, so now you dont need shriek for extra stacks of it

[long saddle]

I SG on 80%+ of builds, even before talent rework

[void hearth]

so its not that its bad with purge its just that you reach max stacks without it

[void hearth]

yes

it was good before too

because it helped you reach max cap

but now it basically does it by itself

and doesnt need to extra stacks from VS

as far as i understand

which lets you take bubble without losing any dps at all

and then you take penetrate the soul and youre doing like 350 dmg per tick

[long saddle]

I don't play for SG stacks, I play for warp unbound

[void hearth]

(idk i made that number up that might be from vet flame stacking)

[long saddle]

so I usually just try to have SG active at all times

[void hearth]

ok but im talking about sg stacking... ?

[fierce crest]

read the top comment

[long saddle]

yes but I wasn't even talking about SB

I was talking to bear about abilities

[void hearth]

ok maybe im wrong then

i wonder what changed with it then

because i swear its doing way more than before

maybe its pen flame?

[long saddle]

don't take my comments for anything, it was nothing about SB

[void hearth]

because i would use it before this patch too and it didnt seem to do that much dmg

maybe its just psyker in general doing more dmg and me paying more attention to stacks

[strong gulch]

There wasn't a change. Mr. E is mistaken. Comments under the vid even say so.

The only related change is that KF (kinetic flare) has a 100% chance to proc.

[fierce crest]

kinetic flare

[void hearth]

ya i get it now

i think i was just noticing the extra dmg psyker got in general and heard about this from some people in game and assumed it was that change

and ive been paying more attention to stacks so it kinda lined up

KF still sucks tho

i feel like they should just replace it with a chain brain burst

[long saddle]

no???

it's cracked

[void hearth]

its just not how is it cracked

you only use it with purge staff generally

[long saddle]

you can use it with anything now

it's once every 12 seconds

[void hearth]

ya i know

but im saying

[long saddle]

not a % chance

[void hearth]

it generally comes up with purge staff

what other builds are you taking BB in?

like in melee youre taking shards

[fierce crest]

the other staffs

[long saddle]

yeah I have it on most staff builds

[void hearth]

i feel most other staffs you want to take shards no?

[long saddle]

I mean I don't bother with assail if I'm not building for it usually

blitz are best as passive imo

and KF fits that bill

[void hearth]

hmm interesting

[void hearth]

ya no i agree with that

but isnt shards more in that passive role?

like bust you actively have to use

unless you pick KF

[fierce crest]

which you should

[long saddle]

yeah I have KF because I don't want to actively use it

I wouldn't run BB otherwise

[void hearth]

but the only thing its every good for (kinda) is boss dmg

like if there are 20 elites running at you

which is kinda normal

bursting one of them is still going to leave you with 19 elites running at you

[long saddle]

BB is for sniping really

[fierce crest]

then assail isnt doing anything

[void hearth]

and in 12 seconds you can kill them anyway

[long saddle]

I wouldn't use it against a horde of elites

[void hearth]

i know

[fierce crest]

so BB has 19 running at you, assail has 20

[void hearth]

im not comparing it with assail

[fierce crest]

bb wins again

[rancid geyser]

sorry was in a run, np -- probably not the best person to ask some of these questions since im a vet main --- but if there is anything i know its when something is a crutch, because im bad enough to know when it carries me

[long saddle]

I usually just use my staves or melee for special hordes

like trauma eats that shit up

and PC spreads great

[void hearth]

im saying having 1 extra random BB every 12 seconds isnt that useful since its a tool you normally use to deal with very specific threats

so you kinda dont need to spend that 1 point and lose something else

[zealous wing]

if theres 20 elites running at me, i presume thats ragers. i can easily have that cut in half, if not more, with assail. but, if theres that many, no one should be maining their blitz

[void hearth]

just to kill something you would have killed anyway

[long saddle]

I mean it's the only blitz I'm usually spending extra points on

[radiant frigate]

i mean if it's ragers assail actually stops them

[long saddle]

bar specific assail builds

[void hearth]

im not saying you should be

ok

lets say there is a mixed hord

[radiant frigate]

if it's not ragers then they're not that fast

[void hearth]

with like slop enemies and like 10 maulers

if thats the case i either play melee

[fierce crest]

burn them

[void hearth]

or burn them

exactly

but if i burn them

[fierce crest]

and BB helps with both

[void hearth]

they will all die at the same time

[zealous wing]

fgs for horde, assail to target anything like a trapper or flamer while simultaneously still cleaving the horde with my fgs

[void hearth]

due to the brun

[long saddle]

trauma deals with most hordes

[void hearth]

and BB will be useless

[long saddle]

and can proc fire on crits

and kills with KF

[void hearth]

since you kill like 1 out of 10 a little earlier

[long saddle]

and more burns with PC

[void hearth]

so it just doesnt matter

[void hearth]

they get that stacked anyway

[long saddle]

I don't think you just understand that I don't use blitzes really

so when I pick KF BB

I get extra dmg for free

[void hearth]

i know

[long saddle]

it's not a trade off

[void hearth]

im not disagreeing

i like BB

but i think KF sucks

because youre spending a point

to kill 1 out of every 20 guys sooner

which makes no diff since if youre killing 19 guys anyway

killing that 1 extra dude isnt with a full perk

i would much rather take like

idk

[long saddle]

I mean sometimes you proc it with SB dmg

and then you can kill someone on the other side of the room you didn't see

for free

[void hearth]

but why would you do that

[long saddle]

it's not all in front of you

[void hearth]

when you could just

kill them a little later

when they actually walk at you

[long saddle]

because someone else might want them killed?

I'm not gonna say no to free kills

[void hearth]

so youre spending a perk

to 1 kill elite

in a mixed hord

sometimes

[long saddle]

yes

gives me warp siphon

[void hearth]

ok that just sucks

[long saddle]

spreads SB with PC

[void hearth]

like its fun

but it sucks

and then you need to considar

[long saddle]

I fail to see what my trade off is

[void hearth]

you might be missing out on like

[long saddle]

what am I getting instead

[void hearth]

penetrating soul

or

warp ghost

or

[long saddle]

I mean I can just take the talents I want

[void hearth]

like an extra SG mod

[long saddle]

and skip something else I want less

my builds aren't hurting

[void hearth]

or like anything that actually boosts your efficiency

[rancid geyser]

isn't this just worth for builds that want to both get to 80% and to sit at their 80% under ER and WG?

[void hearth]

like i would just much rather take mettle for example

yk

which isnt that good

but is better than KF

[wraith sphinx]

current KF is pretty good, old KF was only really good for staves and bullet hose weapons, now it's effective with any loadout

[rancid geyser]

its also extra damage but iirc ppl were taking it for more than just the random proc, it technically is more uptime in between 80 - 100 peril, no?

[void hearth]

i still think it sucks

out of principle

[long saddle]

in old tree I mostly wanted PA anyway so BB was the safer choice

[void hearth]

like i just dont see what it does for you ever

other than maybe more boss dmg sometimes

[long saddle]

so I usually spent 1 point for KF because why not

[cosmic cobalt]

me when instant sb stack

[void hearth]

becuse i promise you you can take something better

[cosmic cobalt]

also it still more for staves

[zealous wing]

random kills 3 rooms over is just fun, and it spreads even more fire

[void hearth]

like show me a build where you have KF and i will promise you there is a better option

[zealous wing]

we love arson here

[wraith sphinx]

extra kills are always welcome

[long saddle]

maybe I don't want something better

maybe I want a passive blitz

[void hearth]

yes but KF doesnt give you any lol

[long saddle]

that kills elites and spread SB

[void hearth]

is what im saying

[wraith sphinx]

It does.

[void hearth]

like other nodes literally give you more dmg

[zealous wing]

with all due disrespect, i dont trust your build ideas at all after earlier incident

[long saddle]

if you're not oneshotting elites on every hit

[wraith sphinx]

also here https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff45845-e1cc-4b1b-9341-33815857c7ca/brainsplosion-gun-psyker-a-new-dawn-csgo-knife-surfer

[void hearth]

what incident lol

[cosmic cobalt]

kf kill elite and jumpstart your soulblaze stack

[long saddle]

it's literally free

[void hearth]

i wasnt wrong i just didint know it was like that before

[zealous wing]

"i wasnt wrong i was just wrong"

[cosmic cobalt]

uh ok

[void hearth]

how was i wrong

[zealous wing]

reread yourself

[void hearth]

i said that it overstacks with purge

and it does

i just didnt know it did that before the patch also

[fierce crest]

which you said

[ripe obsidian]

How long has this argument been going on

[wraith sphinx]

at least an hour

[void hearth]

sure but the reason i was saying that was because i dont think you need shreik for SF builds as much anymore

[wraith sphinx]

or two?

[void hearth]

because dmg is higher so you kill things faster so you dont need extra stacks

[cosmic cobalt]

bruh

[long saddle]

it came back after our KF discussion lol

[void hearth]

• with plasma gunners in the game now bubble stocks unfortunately go up

[fierce crest]

this wasnt wrong™

[ripe obsidian]

What a waste of an hour, ha

[void hearth]

yes i said i was wrong about that

[jagged mica]

you still going at it, swirly? like, no offense, but when the whole chat is like "you don't know what you're talking about", they might be onto something

[void hearth]

but that wasnt the point

of the conversation

that was being had

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah tell me about it

[cosmic cobalt]

what was the point

[void hearth]

because we were talking about VS

[wraith sphinx]

I like vintage story 🙂

[jagged mica]

vintage story mentioned?

[obtuse dome]

https://tenor.com/view/vintage-story-hop-on-vintage-story-hop-on-guy-black-gif-5954592096968032313

[void hearth]

ok this is a top random build using KF

so tell me what would i lose

if i simply just didnt take KF and instead took like

anticipation

and just got an extra dodge for free

and buffed all my other dodges

[cosmic cobalt]

what is this build

gunker?

[void hearth]

or i could kist take warpspeed and be faster

[void hearth]

lowkey idk i just clicked the first build with KF i saw

[fierce crest]

warp unbound

[cosmic cobalt]

ok because that build is pretty ass

[void hearth]

because my point is you always have better options than KF

and that it just isnt worth taking

to kill 1 guy

sometimes

ok this one then

just some purge build

why would you take KF

and not

[fierce crest]

i would drop quietude for empyric

[void hearth]

battle med

[fierce crest]

i would not take battle med no

[void hearth]

OR WAIT

LOL

THIS ONE DOESNT EVEN HAVE

PENETRATION OF SOUL

thats like

a flat 50% dmg buff basically

for 1 node

and instead you take KF

like why

[cosmic cobalt]

uh where did you get that

[void hearth]

you get to ignore 20% armor flat

[fierce crest]

wtf you taking PotS for

yeah thats not

[void hearth]

so anything in a mixed hord just dies insta fast with a flamesftaff

[fierce crest]

anything that inferno wants

[void hearth]

like what

[fierce crest]

please stab the crushers with ur uncanny strike

[void hearth]

why would you not want more rending ever

[void hearth]

yes true

but im talking more about like

armored ragers in a mixed hord

or maulers

and if you have a zealot

with penetrating flame flamer which you prob will

armor will just turn to dust

as youre stacks go from dealing like 150 dmg

to like 350

and then you stack uncanny with that

and boom

everything is dead in 3 second

[nocturne dust]

Be the penetrating flame

[void hearth]

instead of taking KF and killing 1 guy at the start and everything else dies 10 years later

[void hearth]

ya you do both

it stacks with uncanny

so if you light everything on fire, apply soulflame, take out ur DS and stack uncanny

that dot just devours everything

[nocturne dust]

It does stack, but rending is just a worse damage buff at some point, and you lose out on Blaze Away by going for uncanny

[void hearth]

and you never needed to take KF since everything dies before it can even proc a second time

[void hearth]

?

[long saddle]

rending on purge is only for crushers anyway

[void hearth]

on DS?

[void hearth]

just not true

[long saddle]

and even then it's not amazing

[void hearth]

armored ragers ?

maulers ?

[long saddle]

SB doesn't care about anything but carapace

[nocturne dust]

If you reach 1.0 ADM, rending after that becomes a tiny damage buff

[nocturne dust]

On Inferno

[void hearth]

uncanny comes from ds

oh wait youre saying

ok wait

[nocturne dust]

and PF comes from Inferno

[void hearth]

yes

[fierce crest]

youll get more damage from vuln minds

if you really want to kill crushers faster

[void hearth]

but why are you shooting ur staff for that long though

i feel like you dont have time for all that

[nocturne dust]

wat

[fierce crest]

because inferno is busted

[cosmic cobalt]

what

[nocturne dust]

you should only be shooting your staff

[void hearth]

i normally blast and then take out DS and kill everything thats still alive

[cosmic cobalt]

fym inferno is literally spam m2

[void hearth]

which at that point is normally just crushers

[nocturne dust]

Psyker's strongest damage is staff

[cosmic cobalt]

you don't have time to pull out melee in havoc

[void hearth]

hence uncanny

[cosmic cobalt]

you literally don't do that at all actually

[nocturne dust]

and Blaze Away means you don't want to swap away

[cosmic cobalt]

you want er to keep blaze away stack with warp rider

[void hearth]

its only active for a full burst

[nocturne dust]

and the endless stream of enemies means there's no time to pick off survivors, your team should be doing that in Havoc

[cosmic cobalt]

that the biggest damage increase you have

[void hearth]

and i feel like most things die by that point

[uncut scarab]

Hello guys, I need some help to my psyker build. I play with Electrokinetic Force Staff and Blaz Force Gretsword, The whole construction of my build is to machine-gun the enemy lines while maximizing the critical hit rate, and reducing the cooldown of Venting Shriek as much as possible. In reality, I never use Smite, and very very rarely the two-handed sword, and I am practically always at the stick. I have two problems: when I am surrounded by too many enemies in front and behind I am so fragile that in two hits I fall to the ground, and against the ogryns, and especially the bosses it is ultra hard to hold, any advice?

[cosmic cobalt]

ain't reading all at

anyway send build

[uncut scarab]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00215fb-874b-4690-995f-2b8b61ee001a/gunner-psyker-2

[nocturne dust]

Even in Auric that's not really true and it just gets worse in Havoc where enemies are stronger

[glacial vapor]

Sounds like you need to work on your melee fundamentals

[void hearth]

i will literally test it rn

[nocturne dust]

You lose out on Blaze Away if you swap for uncanny

[void hearth]

its only active for the burst not the dot im p sure

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away? You're straight-up wrong

[void hearth]

unless its diff to how flamer works

[strong gulch]

Blaze away affects DoTs

[nocturne dust]

uh

[void hearth]

i might be im not denying that

[nocturne dust]

it's not different

You're wrong about Flamer too

[strong gulch]

Well SB DoT

Idk about the others.

[cosmic cobalt]

blaze away is the biggest damage increase on purge

• warp rider

[uncut scarab]

sorry i'm french, is that two talents ?

dont find them

[cosmic cobalt]

pots essentially do nothing for you

[wraith sphinx]

blaze away and uncanny strike are blessings

[nocturne dust]

Weapon Blessings

[fierce crest]

inferno, KF, uncanny deimos

more blitz kills than melee

[uncut scarab]

for what weapon ?

[ripe obsidian]

Added Shriek and Bubble Voidstrike builds to the guide. Did not get to SG tonight, and it is 4am. I need to sleep. Will try to get SG Voidstrike and some EK stuff tomorrow.

@pale prairie
@strong gulch

[wraith sphinx]

This is icon for uncanny strike, it is on some melee weapons

[void hearth]

ok with PotS i just watched a rager tick for 650 with 1 burst

[fierce crest]

editing in @s doesnt ping them

[ripe obsidian]

And since you're here, @nocturne dust , read my guide and give feedback pls.

[ripe obsidian]

RIP

[wraith sphinx]

and this is for blaze away, you can find it on inferno staff

[void hearth]

without Pots max tick was 450

[wraith sphinx]

idk how are they translated in french

[nocturne dust]

wat guide

[ripe obsidian]

Is in Potato's build pin

[fierce crest]

THE GUIDE

[ripe obsidian]

I am Contributing to the Community.

[strong gulch]

Thank you for the work. Hope rest finds you.

[glacial vapor]

You should use your melee when you're surrounded like that. EK can't deal with hordes like VB or Purg.

If you must, then just get some practice dealing with Ogryns, though EK deals with them fine most of the time. A faster melee will help keep distance, FGS is very slow.

[void hearth]

so from my pov it seems 1 perk = 200 extra tick dmg

[wraith sphinx]

ty for your work 🫡

[ripe obsidian]

You are welcome. I know the advice is colored by personal preference and playstyle, but I am trying to be objective

[uncut scarab]

what weapon do you i should use ?

[fierce crest]

FGS is fine

[rancid geyser]

it happens -- we are victims

[fierce crest]

anything you like that can clear hordes

[zealous wing]

so much for not being an active user, huh

[fierce crest]

i use shock maul for more electricity

illisi is good

[nocturne dust]

I think people are overvaluing warp ghost a ton

[uncut scarab]

FGS ?

[rancid geyser]

bestest

[zealous wing]

they claim to not be active, 72 pages of msgs

[glacial vapor]

FGS is fine but some more mobile options with good horde clear are illsi or the combat knives

[fierce crest]

force greatsword

[uncut scarab]

Greatsword ?

[ripe obsidian]

I do not agree

[fierce crest]

its SOOOO comfy

[rancid geyser]

the illisi(t)

[void hearth]

literally my 1 day in the past month where i dont have a quantum problem set due tomorrow chill on me

[nocturne dust]

But that's entirely it. Comfy, and offers nothing actually valuable.

[uncut scarab]

and what do you thinf about talents ?

[void hearth]

and you can check my history i have not typed in here since maybe last winter

[zealous wing]

nah you been in here being irritating, imma be irritating back

[rancid geyser]

25% increased toughness gen is not valuable?

[void hearth]

im not irritated at all bro i dont know who you think you are lol

[fierce crest]

the other stats are still really nice

[nocturne dust]

Stamina can come from curios and we're very fine with ER's malus in its entirety even more now that we have more defensive nodes

[fierce crest]

big tanky

[void hearth]

ive been rent free in ur head for like 3 hours for no reason LOL

[nocturne dust]

Toughness gen isn't going to save you from bad plays

DR might

[fierce crest]

but being able to run a 3rd toughness curio can

[zealous wing]

"I dOnT kNoW wHo YoU tHiNk YoU aRe"

[strong gulch]

Acronyms are in the pins for reference if someone can't or doesn't say what something means.

[nocturne dust]

But you can just run more DR instead

or better yet, a 20% damage node for all the big bois

[rancid geyser]

Stamina can com from curios [or just you know take somethign else now], and ER isnt the only thing to look at with the new talent quietude with it is very good

[zealous wing]

nah just everytime i look in here youre still here in this "braindead" discord

[rancid geyser]

from 40 to 50% each time you cap out

[nocturne dust]

Quietude is nice but I don't see how Warp Ghost is related

[rancid geyser]

can easily get 100% toughness gen

from 4% per 10 to 5% per 10

you can actually generat 100% toughness really quick

[nocturne dust]

You can already do that tho

Soulsteal the horde

[cosmic cobalt]

quietude is kinda ass

[rancid geyser]

soulsteal is not the same

[void hearth]

i mean it is lol

[cosmic cobalt]

soulstealer and souldrinker already handle all of your toughness regen

[nocturne dust]

Kinda is for most situations

[ripe obsidian]

I pick Warp Ghost for the passive peril quelling part. The rest is just bonus.

[nocturne dust]

You can't go over 100% toughness

[void hearth]

braindead doesnt mean unenjoyable

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, exactly. 100% comf

[rancid geyser]

quietude can do it faster, and the passive peril gen being negatively affected is an enabler for a bunch of talents

its not just comfy

[ripe obsidian]

Quietude is a good node competing with great nodes. Rarely a reason to pick it.

[rancid geyser]

technically it adds optimal patterns to gameplay

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah that why it's ass

[mental kayak]

what a sad day

[cosmic cobalt]

you never run out of thing to kill anyway

[nocturne dust]

I do not mind charging up to 100% from 0% at the start of battle. That's not a DPS loss worth mentioning most of the time

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, +25% toughness gen from all sources is pretty great. And +2 stamina is lovely.

[glacial vapor]

Talents seem ok, assuming you are using the projectile spam build. I tend to run "Kinetic deflection" it will save you a lot fo the time. You can drop "inner tranquility" and somethig else for it.

Perks and possibly blessings on your weapons could be better. +25% damage is better in most cases. Carapace and u unyielding are best for FGS

[nocturne dust]

Eh

[zealous wing]

lemme guess, not a bubble psyker

[rancid geyser]

20% at the very start

[nocturne dust]

I'm already at 100% toughness for most of the match

[rancid geyser]

20% is not small

[mental kayak]

i am

it's funny

[zealous wing]

LMAO what

[rancid geyser]

or actually its roughly 17%

[mental kayak]

i'm probably just dogshit

[zealous wing]

DAMN

[mental kayak]

they inspected me

[zealous wing]

they hate you

[cosmic cobalt]

the gatekeeping been worse since update lol

[mental kayak]

i have only 170 ish hours

i don't have truelevel but my psyker is probably lvl 60 / 70

so i understand

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[mental kayak]

well i'm running as many havocs as i can so i can practice

[zealous wing]

yeah but like

even h24 you got denied

thats an easy 3man job

[cosmic cobalt]

below h35 is easy as hell

[nocturne dust]

In Havoc, defense matters way less so there is that context where all these defensive nodes aren't going to let you survive much.

[cosmic cobalt]

inferno bubble psyker is literally baby mode in havoc

[zealous wing]

theres a weird bout of people only wanting bubble psykers

[nocturne dust]

and toughness replenishment least of all, which is why I do not value warp ghost at all.

[zealous wing]

i wonder what its related too

[mental kayak]

only bad players

actually

[wraith sphinx]

that has always been athing

[nocturne dust]

Well, bubble is less defense and more "opportunity for unmitigated offense"

[zealous wing]

yeah but even nonhavocs, people see no bubble and dislike

[wraith sphinx]

bad and toxic players thinking psykers are only good as bubble monkeys

[mental kayak]

only bad players force you to buybble psyker

as far as i've seen

[zealous wing]

the fuckin plasma gunners. people are mad.

[mental kayak]

the lvl 35 havoc i completed

[nocturne dust]

But I love me bubble 🤤

[uncut scarab]

thanks

[rancid geyser]

this is true but atm quietude especially has allowed me to hit more hits than i was able to prior to using it

[mental kayak]

they told me

do whatever you want

[zealous wing]

true bros honestly

[nocturne dust]

I mean... I've always used quietude

[rancid geyser]

by way of giving me 40% of my toughness almost on demand on top of the other gen

[nocturne dust]

Idk why you wouldn't

quietude isn't the topic

Warp Ghost is, and Warp Ghost is very eh

[cosmic cobalt]

or know kill entire poxwalker family in sub 1 second and get more than rhat

[zealous wing]

im finding WG very pleasant

[cosmic cobalt]

also not having to quell and lose peril

[mental kayak]

the guy flamed me at the end

cause i only did 2.5mln dmg

XD

[rancid geyser]

with warpghost you dont take as much damage cant say there is a situation it would never stop a down with one with the warp

[zealous wing]

as a gunker, maintaining peril while actively shooting the boss is nice

[glacial vapor]

Quietude gives you toughness gen in situations other talents might not. That's why I still have it in most builds

[rancid geyser]

hovering you at 80

[wraith sphinx]

I love warp ghost on gunker and inferno build, elsewhere it's very eh

[zealous wing]

bro

😭

[nocturne dust]

There's a lot of good nodes in the tree. Warp Ghost doesn't meet the bar for me to take it.

[zealous wing]

let me guess, they didnt get even close to 2m dmg

and yet had the audacity to bitch

[nocturne dust]

I guess you could take warp ghost instead of KD. Like a filthy fake psyker.

[mental kayak]

idk i can't see dmg

[zealous wing]

[mental kayak]

i don't have the mod

[zealous wing]

(current test build has WG but not KD)

[nocturne dust]

If you don't block attacks with your mind, you're not psykering hard enough

[zealous wing]

curious how i handle without KD (not great)

frontlining is very hard when you cant block infinitely

[mental kayak]

he told me

[rancid geyser]

but why block when you can blast?

[mental kayak]

"you only did 2.6mln dmg you should've done 3mln at least "

[rancid geyser]

block with your face and get back the toughness anyway

[mental kayak]

i said sorry

[nocturne dust]

Because sometimes you get catapulted into the swarm by your ally deciding to push a burster into you and the only way you're surviving is with KD

[zealous wing]

i did survive a crusher overhead last round so definitely doable

[rancid geyser]

i never did see that clip btw

[zealous wing]

oh the sneaky one

[rancid geyser]

where that crusher snuck up on you and the random

[zealous wing]

gotta edit it down still

[rancid geyser]

yeah XD

i actually watched it

i coudlnt call it out just had to watch

[fierce crest]

why not both :)
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0021e71-e8a2-47e5-b163-6b2000c22b42/axe-me-a-question-2

[zealous wing]

like a car crash

gimme a little bit ill get that edited

[nocturne dust]

Because you don't want to be a filthy veteran pretending to be a psyker

Smh my head, darn gunkers ruining the class

[rancid geyser]

im assuming this is a situation without a deflector sword, but also oof

[fierce crest]

this is an axeker

[nocturne dust]

deflector won't save you from your block getting crunched cuz you're out of stamina

[fierce crest]

the revo is for snipers

[nocturne dust]

Even worse 😭

[rancid geyser]

but it has

[fierce crest]

and maybe knocking dogs off my allies

if i want

[rancid geyser]

i use block eff tho im weird

[nocturne dust]

Zealot pretending to be a psyker 😭

[fierce crest]

:)

i ran this build last patch when we were squishy

its so much nicer now

[rancid geyser]

-30% from deflector plus curios can get you -54%

🙂

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, but then you waste curios on it

[rancid geyser]

idk i got 24% stamina gen, 24% revive, 12%cdr, 20 bomb res and 20 gunner res -- could easily swap in the block for stamina without being hurt

[fierce crest]

i still got the mind shroud

[nocturne dust]

Zealot cosplaying as psyker

[fierce crest]

once i get the books/candles backpack its over

or maybe the scrolls

[zealous wing]

my POV

as you requested

[nocturne dust]

ew

[mental kayak]

@zealous wing

what do you think is normal dmg a psyker should do

[zealous wing]

yeeeessss ?

uh

[mental kayak]

fire staff

of course

that's what i'm using

[zealous wing]

for high havoc i presume?

[mental kayak]

yea i got flamed in a 35

for doing less then 3mln

what the zealot dude said

i forgot his name

[zealous wing]

i'd guess at least 1.5m? not too sure honestly, i just know hitting the 1m benchmark preupdate was impressive, and it started getting hit more regularly, then 2mil after that, so

[cosmic cobalt]

you should be top damage but that it

[zealous wing]

also depends on modifiers and density

[cosmic cobalt]

it's hard to not be top damage with psyker

[zealous wing]

yeah thats really it

[mental kayak]

💀

so 1.5mln is hard

[zealous wing]

as inferno, unless theres another inferno, you deal highest possible

[mental kayak]

that guy flammed me for doing only 2.6 mln

i was only psyekr

[zealous wing]

not hard, but like, minimum with the update

[mental kayak]

zealot vet and ogryn

[zealous wing]

maybe?

when in doubt, ask agentchaos if you see him

[mental kayak]

haha

[zealous wing]

or check his youtube

[mental kayak]

i seen his videos

he's crazy

i try to play like him

it's really ahrd

swapping staff sword is the worst thing for me

[zealous wing]

yeah hes... well, lives up to the name

[mental kayak]

i think there is a mdo for swapping weapon

cause sometimes it's like

i get staggered

or idk don't swetich well

[zealous wing]

but like, he'd be able to give a better guess than someone who doesnt use the scoreboard mod, and doesnt use inferno often, and hasnt completed a 30+ yet

havocs just not my vibe

ive seen h40 "in person" though, its a fresh hell

i look forward to it one day

[mental kayak]

i want to complete it

and play in there often

it looks so much fun in my eyes

idk

[zealous wing]

oh yeah

but like

[mental kayak]

maybe after i've done 20 + of them i'll be like other people and play auric maelstorms

[zealous wing]

idk, it feels like its a bit too "you need perfection"

[mental kayak]

well i like the games most where the enviroment is as competitive as possible

so