psyker-class

[zealous wing]

clutching on difficulties that matter (i'd say damnation, auric, havoc), is heavily reliant on skill, even preupdate (i find damnation to be hard enough to keep from being too rusty, but also chill esp if really tired)

[pale prairie]

Wrong it lost 1% damage per stack

[zealous wing]

damnation is like, the tipping point, and youd be clutching a lot there

[sinful perch]

Going from Arbites to psyker gave me whiplash ngl, had a lot of times where I was dead spectating an Arbite and watching those mfs getting hit 6 times in the middle of the horde and not having a scratch to show from it meanwhile two groaners hitting me at once would be most of my health

[rancid geyser]

hmm, maybe i didnt pay enough attention

[rancid geyser]

didnt realize the dog changes

oof

[pale prairie]

10% damage and some toughness and the class is unplayable

[rancid geyser]

less staggering from dog because less charges

less bleed from dog because less stacks

idrc about the bleed

[fiery stratus]

Yep, when i started playing psyker seriously right before the itemization rework, i was getting shit on constantly. It'll teach you to swap, push, and block a lot lol

[pale prairie]

Cooldown got SHORTENED

[rancid geyser]

no free monster fights now, arbites gotta actually fight em

[fiery stratus]

playing anything tanky then swapping over to psyker, you're gonna suffer for a while lol

[rancid geyser]

yeah but having 3 meant you could literally stun lock monsters

[pale prairie]

TRUE

[rancid geyser]

we lost some cc because of that

[royal totem]

I overloaded today cuz i hit 1 to switch to melee then left click to attack. It...somehow didnt switch me to melee

[zealous wing]

does make me wonder if i ever grab arby, if i will actually just be an unkillable unit

[rancid geyser]

not that it wasnt a needed nerf

[sinful perch]

Tbh Psyker isn't too bad now with that new 25% DR perk and warp ghost, still not going to be tanking hits but you aren't instantly dead because you let a few basic enemies get too close

[fiery stratus]

Not unheard of, server sometimes not read your input, or itll be delayed

happens to me when switching sometimes to push dogs ect

[zealous wing]

there is a QoL mod for that, guarenteed weapon swap

it fixes that issue

havent had it happen since

[pale prairie]

Psykers when built correctly now can survive one crusher overhead

[rancid geyser]

damage to peril has caused me to blow up so many times today

lmao

i HATE IT

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[fiery stratus]

Yeah, psyker is easier these days, you can actually take a hit or two and not fold like paper

[royal totem]

Its embarassing af to blow up in havoc cuz of it

[pale prairie]

I have never blown up because of it. It drags it from 100 to 97

I was running it all night

[rancid geyser]

i was using it on our runs

[sinful perch]

I'm glad I swapped off assail because I already know that 90% of my deaths would be getting hit right before I throw a few assails causing me to cap out and die lmao

[rancid geyser]

would get hit when im already high then continue to shoot then overload

[pale prairie]

Oohhhhh

[rancid geyser]

lmao

[royal totem]

I dont use just a dream

[pale prairie]

Hahaha yeah I guess I am just paranoid enough to check a lot

[zealous wing]

aight kuro, we've had time to chill a bit, wanna dive back in?

[rancid geyser]

sure!

[pale prairie]

I have every defensive talent cause it’s fun

[royal totem]

I think im too unskilled to use it

[sinful perch]

That's when you just go "haha wow silent poxbursters really suck" in chat and hope they believe

[wind spruce]

2-manning a maelstrom with a random... playing hyper aggressive the whole time... barely used my ranged weapon at all
and i got 27% uptime with riposte and 11.5% with precog. Maybe they're both garbage...

[rancid geyser]

i need to stay up for 1 more hr

[fiery stratus]

Assail isn't bad to balance if you have the talent to prevent overload on scriers. Its not bullet proof but it helps, just takes a little discipline to stop tossing when you hear the overload sound lol

[pale prairie]

Oooof

[zealous wing]

wait

[pale prairie]

I have always wondered

[plucky flax]

Use shred it's better

[fiery stratus]

xd

[zealous wing]

either you crashed or i did, or in the middle of a crash

[rancid geyser]

assail can easilly get you killed yeah, for me i was on EK playing specifically at 80-96%

1 hit and i shot then my psyker screams

[royal totem]

Hmmmm

[rancid geyser]

no Shriek availiable XD

[zealous wing]

we'll both relaunch, resquad after

[royal totem]

I could play a round now...but id have to get out of bed.....

[zealous wing]

HMMMM

[royal totem]

Nah maybe ill stay in bed

[pale prairie]

Do it!

[zealous wing]

BARREL ME

ITS FREE SHOTS

[wind spruce]

yeppppp

[pale prairie]

Your siblings need you

[wind spruce]

thems the breaks

[zealous wing]

whats the WORST that can happen, all of us die horribly in the first 10 minutes?

[pale prairie]

It’s nice against bosses when they are ignoring you

[rancid geyser]

reloaded

[wind spruce]

although it does show that all the zealots bitching and whining that they cant proc their dodge talents duirng smite can eat it

[rancid geyser]

sorry

[zealous wing]

loading back in myself

[royal totem]

Bed is comfy is my defense

[wind spruce]

yeah 100%

[zealous wing]

game is fun

[royal totem]

Alright ill get up

[zealous wing]

yay!

[pale prairie]

Alright watch me pull of a move hexis couldn’t dream of

Sleeping

[rancid geyser]

on this day bad decisions were made

for the right reason

[royal totem]

also, i've only played 457 hours

[pale prairie]

“Only”

[nocturne dust]

Only 🐟

[rancid geyser]

probably still less washed than me

[royal totem]

compared to you, hexis, and chaos

th at's nothing

[nocturne dust]

If you aren't at least 1000 hours, you're a noob

[zealous wing]

HELL YEAH

[nocturne dust]

-# That's a joke in case it was unclear

[rancid geyser]

excuse me?

[royal totem]

alright i'm logged on game

[rancid geyser]

its spelled newb 🙂

[wind spruce]

no but actually this

[nocturne dust]

Real veterans have 10000 hours in the game

[royal totem]

a lot of my hours were on ogryn and arb though

[rancid geyser]

what is that like a year and 2 months of game play

sheesh

[wind spruce]

I had over 400 days on my hunter in WoW, and then another 100 on an alt and more on other characters

[royal totem]

~~if i don't get an invite i'm going back to bed though lmao

[fiery stratus]

1000 hours or 750 hours and 250 hours of idle

[plucky flax]

15% max stacks warp charges Xd

[rancid geyser]

i know for a fact at least 40% of my hours is from labing

[wind spruce]

Imagine using your combat ability SMDH head

[nocturne dust]

Scriers with warp charges is a drug

[fiery stratus]

i have maybe 15-20 hours from leaving it on operator selection

[nocturne dust]

and I am an addict

[fiery stratus]

but i've never left it on overnight

[plucky flax]

33% venting shriek up time tho kinda gud

[wind spruce]

BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK

[nocturne dust]

I've literally activated scriers twice during a single lingering effect, lol

[wind spruce]

what sub nodes are you taking for WS

[nocturne dust]

just the typical center and bottom right/left depending on staff

[wind spruce]

no inner tranq or ER im assuming

[plucky flax]

Glad they trimmed warp charges to 3 nodes now

[wind spruce]

@nocturne dust have you noticed that warp unbound doesnt refresh its duration... RIP

[nocturne dust]

I use ER out of habit

IT FEELS WRONG IF I DON'T HAVE IT

[wind spruce]

lmaooo

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-pin-down-cookie-addict-galletas-gif-11235441

[wind spruce]

pls respond

this also applies to the damage stacks that linger btw

[nocturne dust]

Oh that? I've been timing it so that Scriers ends after WU expires, so I haven't noticed, but I could test it and see

[wind spruce]

It definitely doesnt refresh, and ive tested to see whether its just a UI bug too

[royal totem]

see? @zealous wing i'm bad. i overloaded perils of the warp

[rancid geyser]

nah psyker got harder to play

i swear

[zealous wing]

nah i didnt see you overload

[rancid geyser]

managing peril feels off

[zealous wing]

though i am noticing

reconlas might be the way to go until the gunners get fixed

more bullets, more crit, more ee

[royal totem]

i did overload once during the last section

[zealous wing]

less damage but, its tolerable for survival

[royal totem]

i was dealing with a sniper and got distracted. but that's no excuse

[zealous wing]

it happens :p

ive also overloaded a few times today

[rancid geyser]

you got distracted trying to save me and the dog

no worries

[zealous wing]

one more round, then bed for you, yeah?

[rancid geyser]

my verdict after the arby changes are still that its a helmet character

i think i will sit in chat

my hands kinda hurt

[zealous wing]

valid

[rancid geyser]

was being too fancy

[zealous wing]

then i shall go to bed myself o7

[rancid geyser]

i got hit a total of 4 times that run XD

[zealous wing]

lol

[rancid geyser]

arby op

psyker op

the other classes i cant fight plasmas on

[zealous wing]

im gonna do the test runs with recon whenever i get back on

[royal totem]

I can kill them with vet

[zealous wing]

gonna be weird not dealing as much damage but, hopefully i fall back into its rythym soon

[rancid geyser]

if i las gun idm fighting them

[royal totem]

Have difficulties with zel and ogryn

[rancid geyser]

but i love IAG always and forever

ogryn has it the worst

imo

[zealous wing]

vraks is a real one, but, 55 bullets, vs 150, itll be a better defense

[rancid geyser]

unless you are using the gun i like

the one that can snipe for ogryn

[royal totem]

I norm play plasma gun or hellbore

[royal totem]

Heavy stubber?

[rancid geyser]

yes

[rancid geyser]

the beauty ****

[royal totem]

That was a lot of m1 on EK

[rancid geyser]

imagine what it was before the hp changes

[zealous wing]

dont have to imagine

just load malice or uprising psych

[rancid geyser]

every crusher was sub 1 seconds to kill

boy i miss it

[royal totem]

But

[rancid geyser]

dead eye got a buff at least

[royal totem]

What @pale prairie doesn't see didnt happen

so im claiming me not dying in auric is a myth

[zealous wing]

oh i definitely didnt clip anything at all

definitely

[white sky]

Id like to see your FGS stat rolls

[rancid geyser]

it was sedition

[royal totem]

Im gonna claim i blew up 8 times to peril of the warp

[zealous wing]

how do you mean

[royal totem]

I actually thought there would be more captains

[white sky]

Like, I want to see if you also do the thing Agent does

[rancid geyser]

prnt scrn

[zealous wing]

games closed, but, no i dont minimise wr

[white sky]

Okay

[zealous wing]

its the dump stat yeah

[white sky]

Thank you

[royal totem]

Exactly. I cant handle any harder

[white sky]

Its just gonna pmo trying to roll one with ideal minimized wr without knowing the actual stats to minimize from

[royal totem]

Auric or havoc i just get carried by hexis

[zealous wing]

it really depends on the item imo

and the build

[white sky]

Auric I scream and beat my face against rot armor crushers

[zealous wing]

i run SG, so, peril isnt an issue for me

[white sky]

SG?

[zealous wing]

scriers gaze

it ticks my peril up for me

[rancid geyser]

cheating

[zealous wing]

then i also have warp ghost to maintain

[white sky]

Gotcha

Yeah SG was a funny one the first time i used it

Without reading

[rancid geyser]

you dont special till 100%?

[royal totem]

Id play melee psyker but im a coward

[white sky]

Im in love with the FGS tbh

[rancid geyser]

actually it porbably doesnt gen much if you arent minimizing warp res

[white sky]

Fun weapon

[zealous wing]

i dont, i save the slice for instakilling or mass staggering bad shit

[white sky]

Like drastically more fun than FS

[royal totem]

Need hexis to carry me more

[zealous wing]

2 or 3 uses will do it

[rancid geyser]

aaah

[zealous wing]

its at 60 though

[rancid geyser]

when i was using it i used it to jump straight to 70%

then just used staff

[white sky]

And SB on FGS is infact a meme?

[zealous wing]

if it was for inferno i'd probably aim for a stave 80 in everything but 40 in WR, if possible

[zealous wing]

SB...

[white sky]

See i understand thats workable but I'm a perfectionist

[white sky]

Soul Blaze

[wind spruce]

@nocturne dust holy shit this build is so real hahahahaha

[zealous wing]

AH

[wind spruce]

cant stop laughing

[zealous wing]

tired

[white sky]

Its fine

Lots of terms in DT

[zealous wing]

yeah soul blaze on FGS isnt good, if it worked on the slice, hell yeah it'd be cool

but, it doesnt, so, bleh

[white sky]

Oh

That makes sense

[wind spruce]

it would still be bad

[rancid geyser]

the slice cant crit to proc?

[zealous wing]

but it'd be COOL

[white sky]

It would be very cool

[zealous wing]

the warp already cuts through walls and floors, so it spreading fire onto the dog on a player a floor above, and proccing a KF would be SO nice

[random swallow]

Scriers gaze is so fun, I turn into a lawnmower

[zealous wing]

i mean it could anyway now, but, on fire is always more fun

[white sky]

Yeah im ngl

[nocturne dust]

?

[white sky]

Ill probably end up using SG instead of Bubble

Learn how to take cover idk

[wind spruce]

scriers warp charges

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[random swallow]

I think if you just abuse movement tech it's fine tbh, if your team is competent

[zealous wing]

yeah, bubble is really handy, esp for a toughness regen standpoint, but, psykers have that on our own now

[nocturne dust]

Is a dopamine abuser

[zealous wing]

SG, killing shit first, is the best option

[random swallow]

ZOOMING AND SLICING

[wind spruce]

wow

i expected higher uptime

i got 70% on scriers

[zealous wing]

there was some dude in here earlier just whining about how psykers arent all taking bubble anymore

talk about outing yourself

[nocturne dust]

Its uptime is 100%?

[zealous wing]

we told him to BE the bubble psyker then

[nocturne dust]

Wat you want 200% uptime?

[random swallow]

People don't take cover in this game, it's crazy

[zealous wing]

he didnt talk back

[wind spruce]

the afterburn doesnt count

[royal totem]

Amazing

[rancid geyser]

he was lame ngl

bubble is too much of a crutch

would even say its more of a crutch than VoC

[nocturne dust]

The lingering effect is 90% the point 😭

[random swallow]

If I see another smite bubble psyker hiding and doing nothing imma find him and beat him up irl

[royal totem]

I dont take bubble below havoc. Even havoc depends on comp

[wind spruce]

its really not and you can have BOTH hehe

but i literally got almost the exact same uptime on my DD build last game

[random swallow]

I only take bubble if my party is dubious either comp or gear

[nocturne dust]

wdym?

[random swallow]

But I still run full melee psyker cause I can't into staves

[wind spruce]

slightly higher with warp charges build

because i cant take my peril reduction talents with warp charges

[zealous wing]

i SHOULD take bubble more, just to stay in practice with it, but, i like killing things :/

[wind spruce]

and i was CHEATING with the warp charges by quelling a bunch

[rancid geyser]

killing things do be how you stay alive

[nocturne dust]

wait you're still running gun stuff

[rancid geyser]

let players learn to play corner

[nocturne dust]

0/10

not scriers warp charges

[random swallow]

Thankfully my duo is full defense ogryn so I just hide behind his thicc cheeks

[wind spruce]

only scrubs use staffs

[nocturne dust]

The lingering effect is the point because of staves, dummy

[random swallow]

Staves are for nerds

[nocturne dust]

We're psykers

[random swallow]

I can have magic AND a gun

[nocturne dust]

What are we if not nerds

[wind spruce]

noooo the point is more gaze

[zealous wing]

we're ALL nerds

[nocturne dust]

You can't fit more gaze into all gaze

[rancid geyser]

lunatics

[nocturne dust]

[wind spruce]

the afterburn doesnt count

i want back to back activations errry time

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-that's-fair-fair-equal-just-gif-9931154963333171750

[nocturne dust]

Yes it does

[wind spruce]

and if i add in ER and other peril nodes i will get that

[nocturne dust]

smh my head

[nocturne dust]

or just warp unbound

[zealous wing]

do you have the ranged critical hit quells peril talent?

[nocturne dust]

1 node > many nodes

[wind spruce]

that literally makes zero difference

[nocturne dust]

wdym

[wind spruce]

because the afterburn is there with or without warp unbound

and i still want actual scriers

[nocturne dust]

You take warp unbound, use the lingering effect, and use warp charges with a staff

unlimited staffing around

[wind spruce]

UGH

i want unlimited SCRIERS

[zealous wing]

speed?

[nocturne dust]

Foolish gunker cannot CONCEIVE of my incomparable STAFFING MIND

[nocturne dust]

I hear the inquisition will arrest you if you use that drug

[wind spruce]

incomparably UNBASED

[nocturne dust]

😏

to use guns?

Indeed.

[zealous wing]

i use the movement speed talent for it

[nocturne dust]

Dirty veterans.

[royal totem]

I tried gunker but i suck st it

[zealous wing]

run fast, with my big sword? yes pls

[wind spruce]

practice

we all use to be like deadvoid once

[nocturne dust]

Speedkers talk about all their speed and then get to run at max for 0.001 seconds per match

smh my head

[royal totem]

I already suck with just staves

[nocturne dust]

Indeed, you saw yourself become a villain 😔

[rancid geyser]

impossible

all you have to do is point and shoot

[zealous wing]

the number of times ive gotten to sprint across that walkway in the prison assassination mission just slicing through everything is worth it

[wind spruce]

im just a cool dude

[royal totem]

You saw firsthand how much i suck

[rancid geyser]

just dont blow up

[nocturne dust]

I would argue gunker is many times easier than staffker now if you're used to other classes

[royal totem]

Can only play sedition smh

[rancid geyser]

you were just tired

[nocturne dust]

Gunker plays much more like other classes

Dirty posers

[quartz barn]

Stronger, faster, but squishier

[nocturne dust]

[random swallow]

Melee psyker is like zealot but less cool

[nocturne dust]

Still squisher with all the new defense nodes?

It's a lotta chonk

[quartz barn]

No i meant compared to other classes

[rancid geyser]

if you are going scriers shouldnt you be just as tanky?

[random swallow]

Yes*

[rancid geyser]

one with the warp and all

[nocturne dust]

Ah

[rancid geyser]

idk psyker feels tankier than vet

i get hit and shoot right back up to max toughness

[zealous wing]

and zealot is boring as hell to play

[random swallow]

You're tanky if you can keep swinging, but you get bursted so easily if you position badly.

[quartz barn]

Also imagine running defensive nodes over full glass cannon

[random swallow]

BEGONE FROM MY SIGHT

[rancid geyser]

heres the thing

i shoot at point blank

lmao

[royal totem]

Im gonna play zealot with hexis one day

[nocturne dust]

Well the tree literally demands you take at least a couple

[random swallow]

Why shoot when blaze great sword go brrrr

[rancid geyser]

because EK is fun

and makes you next to untouchable by ranged enemies

as long as you have targets

[nocturne dust]

I take anticipation over the unchained node and OwtW

Only way I feel alive

[rancid geyser]

crit and all

[zealous wing]

gun does that too

thats why i was talking about reconlas over vraks for the event

[random swallow]

I just parkour to the ranged enemies tbh, I feel like a crackhead on scriers gaze psyker

[zealous wing]

less dmg, but more ammo, more ee proc

[royal totem]

Ek just feels comfy

[rancid geyser]

but i dont need a blitz to keep it going or to start it 🙂

nor ammo

thining about it im actually a team player

[zealous wing]

if theres a horde, melee is good

if you go inferno though... oh BOY

youre invulnerable if you stay cautious of meleers

[rancid geyser]

you saw me -- i shoot, and shoot then i shoot some more

[random swallow]

Yeah I'd say scriers gaze melee psyker EATS Chaff like crazy

[rancid geyser]

shriek and shoot

all you need

why use braincells when you have the warp

[random swallow]

Why use warp when you can embrace it

[zealous wing]

tomorrow, ill bring inferno, you bring ek, we see who dies first

cliff yeets dont count

[rancid geyser]

i only died when i was using just a dream

lmao

[zealous wing]

i would also say game bullshittery doesnt count but thats harder to define

esp because, im eu and youre na east

[rancid geyser]

plasama gunners

[zealous wing]

ee works on them

so

no

[rancid geyser]

i can play on EU

[zealous wing]

they count

i can do NA E, either works

[prisma niche]

Plasma gunners keep messing up my combat rhythm
I go from mowing down heretics to “Dink”

[zealous wing]

they're not much worse than maulers if you get close enough

[random swallow]

Just keep mashing that melee baby, your problems will go away

[zealous wing]

well, if they're melee range they're better than maulers

[royal totem]

Ok on a serious note while i dont think im good.

[rancid geyser]

not the best atm but sometimes i get as low as 60 ping in EU

[royal totem]

I did prerty well that game

[zealous wing]

oh damn

usually NA east is over 100 for me

thats weird

[royal totem]

luck

[rancid geyser]

might just be traffic on the router

[random swallow]

I got absolutely gang banged by 5 crusher, a daemonhost and a scab captain my last match. Had a speed running zealot and a smite psyker. I had to call it quits

[zealous wing]

oooof

[prisma niche]

My melee is my crowd control ;-;
When it go dink, my toughness vanishes and the horde becomes a much bigger problem

Unless I have a bar charged on my greatsword
Then I just, delete the horde

[zealous wing]

force weapon push knocks them all the way over, and its very easy to aim

[nocturne dust]

illegal

Around here you have to play selfishly or you suck and are insane

[zealous wing]

had an oggy tell me to feel free to take more ammo

[random swallow]

LOL

[zealous wing]

he was using a twin stubber

it felt

weird

[rancid geyser]

oof is this why i got chewed out for no bubble?

im bad psyker

[zealous wing]

no

[random swallow]

There's no good psyker tbf

[zealous wing]

a good psyker is a not dead one

if the teams dead, thats on them, 99.9% the time

[random swallow]

Everyone knows 4 ogryn is peak performance

[nocturne dust]

Spoken like a zealot

[random swallow]

BEGONE WITCH

[rancid geyser]

well then i will become heavily acquainted with my R key

and never die again

[zealous wing]

YOURE THE ONE IN OUR DEN

[random swallow]

IS IT NOT THE DUTY OF THE PIOUS TO CLEAR A DEN OF VIPERS

[nocturne dust]

I'm not a witch, I'm a warlock

[royal totem]

What if i barrel all 3 of my teammates

[zealous wing]

then why are you HERE

[random swallow]

I like both classes

[zealous wing]

[royal totem]

Does that make me good if im the last alive?

[random swallow]

And zealot chat gets weird at times

[rancid geyser]

then they get to watch how to ACTUALLY play the game

[nocturne dust]

It literally is actually

[zealous wing]

makes you better than who you got teamed with, at the very least

[nocturne dust]

In fact, #1 Zealot Tenet is to murder heretics

[zealous wing]

oh yeah that reminds me

[random swallow]

Psyker lorewise would just stress me out all the time

I would never wanna be near one for fear of warp/daemon shenanigans

[zealous wing]

lore tidbits ive found: male seer murdered a priest on the mourningstar, and Fem savant is honourary ogryn

[nocturne dust]

auric doesn't have enough low times for lore

[zealous wing]

i collect voice lines

[nocturne dust]

and I play exclusively auric sooooo.... 😭

[random swallow]

Inquisition ships must be the most interesting thing that can happen to a reject. Ignoring servitor potential

[zealous wing]

what personality?

as you can imagine i mainly have m loner

[nocturne dust]

Male Seer, Female... er, the crazy Zealot

[wraith sphinx]

I get like 90-120 ping on NA east but I still play there when EU server is dead

[nocturne dust]

Bodyguard Ogryn, Mauler Arb

[zealous wing]

this one HAS a m seer in it

[obsidian kayak]

fem loner best voice in the game 🙏

[nocturne dust]

and I forget what vet I have. The serious one, whichever that is

[zealous wing]

cutthroat?

[nocturne dust]

no

[zealous wing]

professional?

[nocturne dust]

probably

[wind spruce]

lol got 10 min into a H37 and realise the guys ont his mostly-australian discord server that invited me were on west coast

[obsidian kayak]

oh my god I said loner but I meant seer

[wind spruce]

still cruisy but ofc it fkn aborts 25 minutes in

[zealous wing]

fem seer does sound very sweet

most people go for fem savant

for, obvious reasons

[nocturne dust]

fem seer and male seer are pretty different for being the same personality, lol

[royal totem]

Night chat

[zealous wing]

o7

[random swallow]

Goodnight varlet

[dense flume]

What is the obvious reason that I don't get

[zealous wing]

oh yeah, hadron DOES have a sense of humour

[random swallow]

Hadron is honestly my favorite quest giver

[nocturne dust]

I think most Discord users go for fem savant, but male seer seems the most popular in public matchmaking

[zealous wing]

first fem savant character mission i took, 2 other fem savants

[nocturne dust]

Weirder things have happened

[random swallow]

The dommy mommy zealot personality is the best in the game

[nocturne dust]

I personally prefer feral irish

[random swallow]

Although I love a lot of the ogryn lines

[dense flume]

Guess I'll never know

[nocturne dust]

Although my favorite is seer

[obsidian kayak]

Rachel Atkins did an incredible job

[random swallow]

I'll have to make an Irish gun zealot name ira

[zealous wing]

this loner voice crack though

[wind spruce]

@summer prairie ok this was a game with warp charges scriers and i was almost never below 20% peril for unstable power to turn off, so a safe estimate of my riposte uptime is 60% but its possibly higher

[fading galleon]

it is REALLY fun

[upbeat kestrel]

Then man up and try it

[fading galleon]

female seer is peak

[upbeat kestrel]

You will get sucked in

[fading galleon]

she is hilarious and rare

[upbeat kestrel]

I have the doomer fem payker thats happy shes not dead

And screams about incomparable mind

Idm which one is that

[stuck spruce]

wait for someone to spam you for 35 min "for my beloved" with her fish seller voice and your opinion will be a bit different

[wraith sphinx]

loner

[upbeat kestrel]

Ah

[plucky flax]

Its fake

[wind spruce]

Goddamnit I've told you to stop looking through my window

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

and which one is that

[radiant frigate]

loner my beloved

[wraith sphinx]

still not my #1 pick but loner is very funny

[radiant frigate]

is it fem savant because french accents are hot

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah but I also enjoy there being a more proffesional personality to be a foil to the wackier people

[radiant frigate]

fair fair

[upbeat kestrel]

The french

[tacit stump]

i have male savant and female loner

nvm wrong voice type female loner sounds like she has a russian accent

[white sky]

What perks do you put on a FGS? Cara and Maniacs?

[stuck spruce]

yes

[upbeat kestrel]

Both

[white sky]

Figured, ty

[wind spruce]

depends on if its your boss damage or not

if it is you go cara/unyielding

[white sky]

Thats logical, I figured it'd be one or the other. I think I'm just gonna GunTM bosses for now.

We'll see how it goes

[fading galleon]

I play her

my opinion is unchanged

[plucky flax]

Carapace unyielding

[white sky]

I think I'm sticking to maniacs for leveling

Bosses just ain't there rn

[plucky flax]

[quartz barn]

Afaik you already onetap maniacs without +m

[obtuse dome]

Rejoice sinners!

That one idk the name

[white sky]

Now this is compelling

[quartz barn]

And unyielding is also for bulwarks

But ye doesnt really matter in lower diffs

[wind spruce]

and your mum

[wraith sphinx]

very little does except not having a damage dumped unupgraded weapon

and I run flak+cara on my gs

[waxen ember]

Does anyone have any post update forceblast staff build(s) they could share? 🙂

[radiant frigate]

ah, the agitator

yeah i have that one

she's funny

[obtuse dome]

She also has cool voicelines when using the chainsword and flamer.

Assault chainsword is so satisfying now.

[radiant frigate]

i heard they made them suck less in the recent patch

[obtuse dome]

They are really good now lets u 1 shot crushers and stuff and easily deals with hordes.

[mighty fractal]

Where are all of these Smitekers coming from

[pastel hornet]

The peril line that says "blank are no more!"

What is it actually saying for the blank part

I can never tell because usually there's a loud sound during that part

[radiant frigate]

they oneshot the newly buffed crushers?

holy

is that just eviscerators or the little ones too

[obtuse dome]

Eviscerator

Didnt test the smol one but it might 1 shot too with the charge.

They are much faster now against fleshy targets too

[mighty fractal]

Seriously why the fuck are havoc games filled with smitekers all of a sudden

[quartz barn]

No you need maniac for her

[mighty fractal]

Did someone make a video

[wind spruce]

infested

[obtuse dome]

Inlike having a smyker

Lets me kill stuff with the eviscerator in peace

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah havoc been shit after update

[quartz barn]

Evis is havoc?

[mighty fractal]

Evis is good in havoc now yes

on zealot

It kills monsters very quickly

[obtuse dome]

Cainswords in general are good now

[mighty fractal]

But yeah, I went from 34-31 tonight just from crashes alone

[obtuse dome]

And fun

[mighty fractal]

and various bubble-less smiteker shenanigans

[quartz barn]

Ngl most zealots ive seen just use bleed bolter for monsters

[mighty fractal]

I'm guessing they're trying to do smite + scriers

[quartz barn]

Or thammer but thats kinda rare

[obtuse dome]

I only like smite with empyric resolve and shriek for endless lightning.

Other than that its kind of underwhelming

But then again people will flay you for picking empyric resolve.

[mighty fractal]

I have no idea why they would

other than YOU'RE HURTING YOUR PERIL EDGE

it actually has synergy with Just a Dream (generates less peril when hit)

[cosmic cobalt]

it's help you keep blaze away stack when edging

usually you don't get more than 3 stack before having to quell

while with er you can keep 5 stack for 2 cast

plus it's a must on ek

[wraith sphinx]

smasha

[cosmic cobalt]

idk why people say er is unusable now when they literally use that shit pretalent tree change

[long saddle]

I think this is what I run, with warp nexus and blazing spirit

[obtuse dome]

Yeah it was really good with ek and smite

But people just hate smite tbh

So i dont pick it anymore

[quartz barn]

Because in higher diffs you can pick literally anything else and do more

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah because most smyker are actively detrimental to the team

[quartz barn]

And ye most smykers have no brain

[wraith sphinx]

now that the point tax is basically entirely gone there is very little incentive to path through smite

I could excuse it pre-patch with "I really want psykinetic aura" but now it's pointless

[fathom adder]

So what you're saying is smite needs buffs

[modest perch]

yeaj

[wraith sphinx]

or replacement with something else that also fits the crowd control niche

[modest perch]

give it way more dmg so instead of being a weird crutchy nuisance it just kills everything

[wraith sphinx]

bb - single target
assail - mixed
so the third thing should be multitarget/cc

[long saddle]

if I don't plan on spending points on kinetic flayer, then base smite is usually the same as base assail for me

[fathom adder]

While also being smug/defensive about how they're Big Brained Team Players because they're "thinking about more than just damage"

Same as VT2 Ironbreakers who did nothing but block and shove because they thought they were MMORPG tanks and never stopped to think about why Taunt was on a 2 minute cooldown

[glacial vapor]

Anything I could improve for an EK build?

[upbeat kestrel]

Not much there to improve imo

[glacial vapor]

Souldrinker or immaterial focus would be nice to fit in but everything else seems too important to give up (or is required pathing)

[wind spruce]

This is it y'all. This is the last gunker build you'll ever play.

[cosmic cobalt]

wtf is this build

that ass

[umbral sparrow]

Can someone explain how blaze greatswords work with those power levels? Is this a passive buff or something that gets used when I imbue the sword?

[glacial vapor]

[cosmic cobalt]

why would you go warp siphon on gunpsyker

[wind spruce]

Cringe and unbased

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah because that ass

[wind spruce]

yeah i hate having scriers gaze with 85% uptime

[candid temple]

anyone got the latest fgs psyker build?

[wind spruce]

and 38% uptime on the afterburn

totally terrible

[cosmic cobalt]

the cdr is from psykernetic aura but ok

[wraith sphinx]

I mean

it's counterintuitive on paper but I see it

accumulate warp charges, pop gaze, regain them while gazing

[cosmic cobalt]

you can already maintain 100% scrier with pa anyway

[wind spruce]

As if i didn't compare it to a DD build lmao

I'm the one that's been staning running every peril drop talent with regular right side gunker

[fathom adder]

You mean the charge meter? It increases the damage of the power wave special attack

[wraith sphinx]

psychic vampire is solid for a non inferno build

[umbral sparrow]

And just so I'm clear on this. The "power wave special attack" is the one after you imbue the weapon?

[fathom adder]

The one that happens when you press Weapon Special, yes

[umbral sparrow]

OK, thanks.

[wraith sphinx]

I'm gonna recreate that build but not take PA or seer's presence

[umbral sparrow]

Sorry for the daft question, but with all the combos one can try and pull off and me never having played a melee psyker before I wanted to make sure.

[wraith sphinx]

I will build the ultimate glass cannon

[wind spruce]

Give it a shot @wraith sphinx, I'm not actually saying this is better than DD because you lose a lot of utility but holy shit is it hilarious to hit scriers IMMEDIATELY after it expires without having to artificially prolong gaze with excessive

[wraith sphinx]

Will do

[wind spruce]

Lel pls lmk how it goes and send your build

But @wraith sphinx you can't drop PA

[wraith sphinx]

oh whoops

[wind spruce]

Because otherwise your cooldown won't be reducing while you're in gaze other than the % reduced by warp charges

[wraith sphinx]

I meant the damage reduction talents

[wind spruce]

Ahh!

[cosmic cobalt]

or yknow just use this and do more damage and being more survivable

[wind spruce]

You're really not very bright are you

[cosmic cobalt]

did you miss the part where i said most of scrier uptime is from pa and not warp siphon

[wind spruce]

Did you miss what I said in reply you goober

And that I'm not actually saying this is superior to right side

Clown.

[cosmic cobalt]

this is already possible without warp siphon btw

lmao

ok then

[wind spruce]

Everyone knows it's possible

But you have to be in scriers for literally 20s lmao

And that doesn't allow you to abuse assail during it to the same extent

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah it's like you want to be in scrier longer to get the 30% damage and 30% finesse damage buff

[wind spruce]

No

I want the scriers buffs

Not the afterburn

[cosmic cobalt]

uh ok?

it active during gaze

[wind spruce]

misunderstood what you meant then but yes

[cosmic cobalt]

and stay active for 10s afterward

also this

[wind spruce]

holy shit dude just read

[cosmic cobalt]

and if you want to assail literally just quell inbetween

is that so hard for you

[wind spruce]

lmao

i understand how to play gunker you 5head

[wraith sphinx]

lmao

I TAKE CHIP DAMAGE AGAIN

[wind spruce]

and some of us actually play havoc lmao.

[dusk timber]

Chip

[cosmic cobalt]

bro assume that I don't play havoc based on nothing

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/boa-noite-com-deus-gif-7500713396542160363

[quartz barn]

I mean that is chip dmg in havoc

[cosmic cobalt]

not like i bring gunpsyker to havoc without a team

infinite cleave op who would've though

[wind spruce]

you said just quell

[cosmic cobalt]

lmao

apparently quell tapping mean I don't play havoc

[wind spruce]

thinking you can just quell in order to spit out a decent number of assails is not a havoc take

especially when we're talking about being in scriers lmfao

[wind spruce]

this is what you get for building glass cannon on purpose

lel

[quartz barn]

Can you even hold scriers for that long in havoc

With the reduced quell

[cosmic cobalt]

yes

[wind spruce]

yes because you dont use your actual quell

[cosmic cobalt]

by crack of bone and tranquil

which he doesn't have btw

[wind spruce]

holy shit man

did you get dropped on your head

[cosmic cobalt]

you're making a lot of assumptions lmao

[wind spruce]

read this again man

[wind spruce]

you literally cannot operate as a conscious being without making assumptions

[cosmic cobalt]

dunno man i think you're the first person to bring up that you think I don't play havoc + i got dropped on my head as a child lmao

plus he was asking about HOLDING scrier

[wind spruce]

because you're being an idiot

[wind spruce]

then why did you reply with crack of bone and tranquil?

[cosmic cobalt]

because those extend scrier time?

aka scrier damage buff?

[wind spruce]

i didnt mention my build in reply to nut lol

[quartz barn]

Ngl i dont even know most nodes by name

Just enjoying the chat lmao

[wraith sphinx]

okay first test did not go well lol, AI director decided to throw in 50 million crusher and mauler clown cars in a generic auric mission so I barely used assail at all

will try this now

honestly the worst bit of utility loss of using warp siphon over disrupt destiny is psychic vampire not proccing as often as it could due to qp pubs being allergic to staying in coherency

and I doubt even taking puppet master would help with that

[runic juniper]

I'll always remember DN, top tier talent

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-movies-rule-bmr-under-siege-2-movie-assumption-is-the-mother-of-all-fuck-ups-gif-2536588876176750503

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/assumption-is-the-mother-of-all-failures-deathstroke-gif-27601949

[wind spruce]

switch to puppet master lel

[wraith sphinx]

😈

all shall feel my extra 5% crit chance

[dusk timber]

What if

Instead of puppet master

It was puppy master

And it gave you a dog

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah it called arbitrator

unfortunately

[fathom adder]

Arbiter-Psyker (Psi-Judge hybrid class)

[wraith sphinx]

why the fuck can plasma gunners shoot through bulwarks

I'm gonna stop here because that pissed me off but this is a pretty funny challenge build

reminds me of hanging on by a bare thread with a remarkably similar gunker build I used to run when I was still new to the class

[wind spruce]

the challenge is to actually maintain 100% scriers

hehe

[wraith sphinx]

[quartz barn]

Look man i use nut as an alias, you're not gonna get me that easily

[runic juniper]

thats what made it so tempting

[deft stump]

Have born leader, GL staying near more than 1 person.

[tacit stump]

they shoot through some thin walls aswell

i was like did you really do that

[white valley]

With the talent changes, is there a consensus on Voidblast builds? Soulblaze or Rending Shockwave?

[wind spruce]

Yes, they are both good

[plucky flax]

Only use rending when team already have another psyker imo

Fixed souldrinker is also blaze trauma buff

[white valley]

Hmm, and soulblaze otherwise, makes sense

Yeah souldrinker and the free 5% crit node are very nice for blaze trauma

[summer prairie]

I think rending trauma is still good on rotten armor maps, you get enough sb from shriek/pc

[white valley]

That's a good point

[cosmic cobalt]

not enough to make dot good on rotten armor but eh

[white valley]

Rending is probably good for Contaminated Stims as well

[cosmic cobalt]

if you have a point to spare

[white valley]

Since blue stims give the enemy carapace armor

[cosmic cobalt]

oh nvm you mean trauma and not purge

[plucky flax]

Do they pop random stims or depend on enemy?

[white valley]

Uh bit of both I think

Yellow and red stims are not usable by the same units, yellow is for ranged and red is for melee afaik

But blue and green can be used by any eligible enemy

Specialists cannot use stims and monstrosities can't either

Bruisers, stalkers, shooters and elites all can use stims

[dusk timber]

What do the stims actualy do

Ik green does something with hp

[plucky flax]

Make it purple rotten armour stim modifiers

Damage farming

[white valley]

Blue grants big stagger resist, lots of DR and turns the entire enemy's body into carapace

Can be very cursed, Bulwarks full of carapace

[cosmic cobalt]

green apparently add hp to enemy

and not just heal them

that mean 20k hp crusher

[white valley]

Green doubles enemy HP and adds stagger resist

Also grants 50% DR to dots

[cosmic cobalt]

tldr encroaching garden please come back

[white valley]

Encroaching garden is still in rotation

[cosmic cobalt]

literally every lobby I've seen is like rotten armor + stim

it's get annoying fr

[dusk timber]

What about red and yellow

[white valley]

Red increases attack speed and reduces stagger duration, yellow increases ranged volume of fire

Makes ranged units fire longer volleys

[plucky flax]

Because it's stronger than purgatus. /s

[white valley]

It's because of Mister E

He hath betrayed us siblings

He spread the lies of smiting

[cosmic cobalt]

actually shit tier ytuber

above tanner at least

[white valley]

I think he's pretty decent tbh

[cosmic cobalt]

bro making "meta" build every 2 seconds and they're just themed build

just slop

[white valley]

I don't think he calls every build meta lol

[summer prairie]

the whole game crashed while playing with a Fatshark guy, good

@plucky flax playing another after that one?

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Nein gotta go to work.

Just quick event map.

21 mins so not so quick.

I am back in like 4 hours if you wanna play.

I can try my assails surge surge meme.

[summer prairie]

sure

[plucky flax]

So gaze starts cd now with psykenetic aura? But not without that talent?

During gaze ability.

[cosmic cobalt]

it alway been that way it's just you can get pa with assail now

[plucky flax]

Ah I see.

[summer prairie]

you only cd when you have procs

[plucky flax]

Very based.

All psykers should take that talent all the time now anyway.

It's just so free.

[summer prairie]

This psyker is running PotS, BM and inner tranquility with a bolt pistol

and shriek

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

Maybe bleed special meme.

[summer prairie]

surely just forgot to change weapon

[cosmic cobalt]

he just based like that

build different

(wrong)

[wind spruce]

itll be bleed

[gilded hare]

(i'm a new player, what are these terms)

[marble crater]

There is a list in the pins

[gilded hare]

specifically PotS and BM

[gilded hare]

Ah

ohhhhh

Thanks lad

[marble crater]

Penetration of the Soul
Battle Meditation

[plucky flax]

Bad manner.

Part of the system.

[wind spruce]

93% scriers uptime

[thorn cedar]

Perfect Timing lol

[marble crater]

Those plasma gunner nerfs though...

[cosmic cobalt]

plasma gunner nerfed

nature is healing

[marble crater]

Watch them be no threat now

[strong gulch]

Nerf you say?

Was there a hot fix

[pale prairie]

Now that we have warp ghost having a super low WR is less of a necessity and more of a convenience.

[summer prairie]

"Pacing - Fixed an issue where coordinated strikes had a 90% chance to occur instead of the normal 30%. " aw

[patent steeple]

I mean, the toughness gain debuff is still a problem if there happens to be gunners/lots of shooters around...

[cosmic cobalt]

YO HAVOC PLAYABLE

rotten armor crash fixed

[pale prairie]

38% peril gen at 60. I have a 23 now that generates 52% per stroke

[summer prairie]

"Fixed an issue where ‘Charged Strike’'s electrocution DoT damage did not trigger ‘Malefic Momentum’." lets see if they made it work properly with everything

[white valley]

Charged Strike more like bad strike

[marble crater]

Just now, yes

#📢news-bulletin

[summer prairie]

Yes, this change makes it so a) charged strike is buffed by your talents/blessings b) it attributes the damage to you

[strong gulch]

Oh ho! Quite the fix.

[wraith sphinx]

is this what I think it is

[strong gulch]

I thought that they just changed the lighting like that one time.

[wraith sphinx]

they have indeed fixed hair being too bright

life good 🙏

[jovial juniper]

Aka still needs Enfeeble to be worth

[gilded plover]

Oh man, Brain Burst build is so much fun

Going Shriek and Brain Burst nonstop

Elites go down like flies

[white valley]

Brain burst? More like kinetic flayer tax

[summer prairie]

charged strike seems pretty good now

definitely good with the knife

too bad you've to go for smite to get it

[strong gulch]

@thorn cedar Charged Strikes fix. Did you get buffed again?

[jovial juniper]

Welp

Another 500 buffs to Psyker

I guess

[dense lynx]

what are coordianted strikes? when the same special spawns multiple times?

[summer prairie]

It's when it spawns a lot of different specials at once, I think

[marble crater]

Oh well

[dense lynx]

I knew the special clown car was insane this patch lmao

[jovial juniper]

Have you ever get netted into an insta flamer

Yup

You just got coordinated on

[summer prairie]

Not sure if the change affects hi/shock auric at all, I think that sets the chance to 100%

[dense lynx]

there was a spawn door spitting out specials recently and after like 30 seconds the whole squad had gathered around to just farm specials as they came out of it

took ages before they finally stopped

[dense lynx]

i swear to god

the only time i get grabbed by a mutant

there is ALWAYS a burster right behind it

[marble crater]

You need to learn the art of dodging the mutant to push the burster

[dense lynx]

when i dodge the mutant there is no burster... THE BURSTERS ARE RIDING THE MUTANTS SIBLING

IVE SEEN IT

[marble crater]

Always assume there is a burster

[jovial juniper]

Mutant jockey

🗣️

[marble crater]

Not taking mutants seriously is how you die

[cosmic cobalt]

most dangerous enemy in havoc fr

[dense lynx]

yeah when they dont make any noise cos of all the spawns thats some serious shit

also the legendary mutant throw into sniper shot

[strong gulch]

Love when I'm waiting to be rescued and I get to watch the spawns. I'm tickled when I see the trapper flamer combo get ran over and tossed to the floor by a mutie.

[dense lynx]

thats the thing cos sometimesa mutant will be your best friend too

knock over a trapper before it spawns

can throw you out of a tight spot

like hailing a cab sometimes

[strong gulch]

I call it the mutie 50/50.

"Come on. Be a bro!"

[summer prairie]

Charged strike with buffs can do enough damage to kill every havoc poxwalker you cleave with your knife without bleed, pretty good

[dense lynx]

yeah thats smart i was testing it on FGS which doesnt really see any beenfit

i was sort of hoping it would somehow proc the other half of malefic

obviously might have been a bit op

i mean just by killing them while electrocuted/oneshotting them

[summer prairie]

If the dot kills an enemy, it procs the warp attack part of malefic

you can proc both now

[dense lynx]

yeah sorry i was trying to say like, if you killed the enemy with the actual heavy attack

i dont know why it would do that

i was just hoping for some reason lmao

i might try a game with the knife

oh the push stab is a heavy isnt it, it procs it too

[copper jay]

I miss Flayer on Poxbursters

[wraith sphinx]

awesome

just one more until poxbreaker

[jovial juniper]

Another 2k buffs to Psyker

🗣️

[pale prairie]

Hmmm so Illisi sword stroking got even better?

[plucky flax]

Too bad charged strike is heavy only

Would be nice with light.

[vast yew]

Does Charged Strike cause the electrocution stagger animation?

[white valley]

Charged Strike with Shock Maul for big memes

[pale prairie]

Geez with lights it would actually be worth grabbing smite

[marble crater]

Blocked

[jovial juniper]

No

[vast yew]

Welp that's disappointing.

[jovial juniper]

Since forever

🗣️

[strong gulch]

Wonder is charged strikes + enfeeble changes any staggers with melees other than FGS.

[jovial juniper]

Lemme see if I understand

They took charged strike and did the opposite of what they did to Arby's dog bleed

Is that correct?

[summer prairie]

It's the same fix, when it was void bleed

But I guess the second dog bleed change is a bit like the opposite

Initially dog bleed also didn't count as your (or anyone's) damage

[heavy hamlet]

Just curious, so based on Six's guide, Quietude isn't a good choice for Inferno and Voidstrike, but what about EK? Since this staff is very peril hungry and you're building and quelling all the time

[pale prairie]

I think there are just better choices. It’s a good node. Better than it was. But there are even better toughness gen ones now

[heavy hamlet]

if It's not good i might change it to Empathetic Evasion because the LMB kinda has silly crit

[pale prairie]

EE is always a good choice. In my opinion if you have mettle and say soulstealer you should be just fine on toughness gen. If you are going creeping flames PC EK then souldrinker would also be good toughness gen

Getting warp ghost improves the toughness gen talents yet again and makes having quietude on top less necessary

[strong gulch]

It's not the quietude isn't good, it's that there are better options or options that fill a different roll. If you just prefer quietude, then take it.

It's not needed imo tho, even on EK. Soulstealer for burst toughness gen and can even be sustained gen if things are continuously dying to warp stuff, like SB. Most of our toughness gen is over time now.

You would path through mettle anyways. so haveing a burst option is nice.

BUT you can better control exactly when you are generating toughness with quietude. Ultimately, it's up to you.

[jovial juniper]

Quietude has been my day 1

I'm not quitting on my day 1s

[strong gulch]

Something something sunk cost.

[pale prairie]

Newb

[pale prairie]

Old dogs and new tricks

[kind jay]

i love quietude especially when playing shriek spam

[rigid sky]

soooo, I just saw in the patch notes that apparently there's a thing called "coordinated strikes"

[pale prairie]

It’s not a bad node there are just better ones

[rigid sky]

is that when multiple melee enemies swing together?

[strong gulch]

I wish old cats didn't learn new tricks. 😭

[rigid sky]

causing the famous double-punch-of-downed that's the only way to down a psyker on a roll?

[jovial juniper]

No

[pale prairie]

I think it had to do with big groups of elite spawns

[jovial juniper]

Multiple specialists spawn at once

Usually a disabler + Fire

[strong gulch]

No. It's when a lot of specials queue to cause problems on purpose.

[pale prairie]

Lmao it was triple what it was supposed to be

[strong gulch]

I thought that was just the new auric.

Was fun.

[rigid sky]

Ah, ok. I thought that was just what specials are supposed to do now lol

[summer prairie]

Shocktroops sets it to 1.0 anyway

[rigid sky]

like, malice is "a trapper can end your run"

and auric+ is "ok, a trapper is nothing to you. 6 trappers in a small space with staggered shot timings, though..."

[pale prairie]

Okay so it was more affecting heresy, damnation, and vanilla auric

[marble crater]

I didn't even notice much of a difference to before maybe my teams were just good at dealing with specials

[rigid sky]

I mean it's a question of rates

and we're used to expecting trapper 1 to be accompanied by trappers 2-40000

[jovial juniper]

90% chance of 6 specialists every 28 seconds

💀

[strong gulch]

I felt the difference, my teams were barely hanging together. EK took care of it.

[rigid sky]

so sometimes you don't see the other 39999 trappers and you just presume your buddies killed them first

idk

[marble crater]

Played with Krieger, did you?

[pale prairie]

Man look at this guy what a pro

[strong gulch]

Would have been an upgrade.

[pale prairie]

Whoa

Whoa

Whoa

Why do you cast these stones

[dusk timber]

Now that i think about this is also kind of a indirect nerf to vet tactical awareness

[marble crater]

I cast these stones, because I sensed the sarcasm before you hit send

[pale prairie]

Yeah this is me just throwing the game…..wait a minute

[heavy hamlet]

Another question, what kind of build that would benefits from warp splitting?

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

I think it's actually funny how the smyker stuns them after I die

[pale prairie]

Lmao

“Now is my time for glory!”

More likely it was a fear response

[pale prairie]

Every build

[strong gulch]

Mostly melee and assail builds.

Voidstrike too.

[pale prairie]

It Increases ALL cleave

[rigid sky]

mostly gun

[marble crater]

Inferno warp splitting

[rigid sky]

deimos/inferno staff/rupture let's go

[patent mango]

sword and assail benefit from it a lot

[rigid sky]

It can let most guns penetrate at least an extra target which is huge

and I think you can do really silly things with it and the recon 14 with infernus blessing

idk if it's worth it

[strong gulch]

Real answer is most non-staff builds benefit a lot from warp splitting.

Gunker and melee builds are basically the same build and generally take assail.

[rigid sky]

most psykers just use the same recon as everybody else (when not taking a laspistol or a vraks 5 IAG)

[patent mango]

gunker and melee builds are more separate nowadays ngl

[rigid sky]

interesting