psyker-class

[zealous wing]

people who have the nerve to bitch and moan about someone not being dead when they all died, and this person could save the run, is just... childish

if they want to act like children, they deserve the time out

[dapper grotto]

has penetration of the soul been fixed

[zealous wing]

fixed?

[dapper grotto]

didn't work before the most recent update, dunno if its been fixed since

[raven mountain]

Wasn't it fixed several patches ago, or was there a new thing I didn't know about?

[zealous wing]

i dont think its broken its just useless

[dapper grotto]

dunno, been labouring under the assumption that it still didn't work

[raven mountain]

Like, at least by arby release, maybe the patch before that.

[zealous wing]

least its out of the way now

but yeah i am 99.9% sure it isnt broken its just absolutely fuckin useless

[raven mountain]

But, then you can have 0.3 ADM on crushers with soulblaze!

[dapper grotto]

used to be that it straight up did nothing

[zealous wing]

its just something that applies a debuff to the enemy, no?

[raven mountain]

It gives you 20% rending when over 80% peril

[zealous wing]

ah, slight. buff to you

its just.... not good lmao

[raven mountain]

I mean, 20% rending for having high peril, which you already want for 20% damage and 33% toughness dr is a nice little bonus.

Not worth spending extra points to go down that tree, but if you're going down warp charges, it's a good point to grab.

[zealous wing]

yeah but i can also 3-5 shot an auric crusher, so its a little unnecessary

[raven mountain]

With what, voidblast?

[zealous wing]

FGS

[raven mountain]

It's for warp damage, iirc.

So it isn't affecting your fgs stabs

[zealous wing]

:p

[raven mountain]

but your soul blaze, voidblast, EK, whatever.

[fierce crest]

anyone got a bistol fgs gunker build?

[radiant frigate]

"idk ask your mom"
"ask your dad"

[chrome sail]

You know what would be cool? If Soulblaze interacted with regular burn stacks in someway. Do they?

[radiant frigate]

no

one burns the soul, the other burns the body

[chrome sail]

burn em both

[waxen jackal]

What are the combos for the different mks of the knives? I haven't used them in forever and can't remember

[chrome sail]

So I can make infernus laspistol do cool blue stuff

[mighty fractal]

Something I realized recently is that this patch was actually a significant buff for Wildfire enjoyers

Not just because you can path right into it now, but because of the Kinetic Flayer buff

[cosmic cobalt]

kinda old new

you could path into it before

biggest thing is souldrinker isn't 3 mountain range away

[mighty fractal]

KF guaranteed proccing every 12 seconds means it no longer randomly kills elites on soulblaze tick. You'll kill random shotgunners and gunners hiding behind doors constantly now, as opposed to the random procs from before, which means you consistently spread Perilous Combustion to hordes that haven't even run to you yet

[cosmic cobalt]

and mettle nerf

[mighty fractal]

Yes the Souldrinker pathing is so much better now

I'm constantly seeing bombers and snipers show up in the killfeed that I didn't even know were there, whereas before it was just "Oh, nice, Wildfire must have done that."

Wildfire probably still sucks as an actual damage source, but it's a reliable vector for Kinetic Flayer now

[obtuse dome]

I think you just push attack on repeat with dagger

[mighty fractal]

and that's good enough for me

Also, has anyone figured out at which point in the damage taken calculation Just a Dream applies?

Does it apply before or after sources of damage reduction?

And does it convert some of the corruption damage you take to peril? Meaning JaD also acts as corruption resist, if so. I'm thinking of it less like Unchained Sienna's passive and more like a "damage converted to elemental" modifier in Path of Exile, which is super strong once you start stacking multiple sources of damage reduction on top of it to filter the damage (and Psyker has more of that on the tree now)

[cosmic cobalt]

for single target yes

stamina curios is a must

[obtuse dome]

I never use it with psyker i prefer the force sword.

[mighty fractal]

That's basically all you use it for anyway

on Psyker

other than for zipping around with charged heavies (which is super good btw)

Give us a Force Dagger/Knife and I'll never use anything else

[fierce crest]

hows this look

[chrome sail]

Does the surge blessing still have that oen itneraction with Elec Staff? Where it's doubles the charge attack?

[wraith sphinx]

Looks fine. Did you build the fgs for assail weave?

[white sky]

@plucky flax why does your bubble knight use assail outta curiosity

[weary idol]

my money's on something to the respect of "malefic momentum goated"

[white sky]

Im just curious cause I feel like I never see assail picked

Like using it tho, pretty rocks

[weary idol]

because there's literally no reason to ever pick it or smite for a staff psyker

since you aren't ever going to use your blitz 99% of the time

[plucky flax]

Mm, peril gen, and extra smol shooters clear

[white sky]

Yeah but this isnt a staff psyker

[weary idol]

correct

[white sky]

Thank you

[plucky flax]

Quick stagger for elites too

Smol elites

It won't stagger crusher xd

[white sky]

Yeah lmfao

Thank you

[wraith sphinx]

Sure but it's a havoc build which gimps ammo pickups to shit

[white sky]

I understand this wording now

Youre saying staff psykers dont use it

Not that this one wouldnt

[wraith sphinx]

I use assail on my inferno staff build

[white sky]

Im kinda commiting to the FGS meme I think

Would Seathe have been a better name?

[plucky flax]

Why not perfect timing?

[plucky flax]

Only the left click

[wraith sphinx]

The one thing fgs certainly doesn't lack in is style

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849407143429144596/1421951685093363774/image.png?ex=68dae734&is=68d995b4&hm=b10f6756f08b3a5363041d0954f57a115c4d4e14ff539c88ad141f6abf8c3cd0&

But man I don't like how slow it makes you

[white sky]

Im okay with slow attacks

They let me drag more tbh

I dont even think that helps in this game but idk

[wraith sphinx]

The slow attacks make it kinda hard to adjust when switching from other melee

It feels especially unsatisfying when someone else clears a horde I start cleaving through with fgs and it fucks up my flow

[white sky]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Idk

My favorite melees are like

Branx Pickaxe and Shield Maul rn tbh

Neither of which I'd describe as fast

[wraith sphinx]

Idrc about speed on ogryn tbh

Esp with shield and maul which I always use with taunt ult and attention seeker

[white sky]

Arb Shield Maul* forgot about Ogs tbh

[wraith sphinx]

I care more about taking on all the aggro than outright killing

[white sky]

Like Knife on vet tho tbh

[wraith sphinx]

Ah

The shield weapons are the only thing I didn't level on arby 😬 I don't like em either

My fav melee are combat blade and tac axe

[white sky]

I love the special on em

[wraith sphinx]

Oh well I'll give the fgs another spin today

It really feels bad to use unless you're somehow the only decent damage dealer on the team tho

[fierce crest]

this is adapted from a recon gunker build and i wasnt sure if it was gonna be critting enough

23% chance it seems like

didnt really feel lacking in damage tho

moreso mobility

[cosmic cobalt]

lmao recon crit ALL THE TIME

the fact that it shoot 20/s plus chain crit exist

[fierce crest]

adapted from recon = no longer using recon

[fierce crest]

switch to easy DD so i could take the scriers speed

to help me move around

[chrome sail]

I'm liking the shock maul on smite/elec staff build

go full human taser

[fierce crest]

now you must ascend to full electricity build

[fierce crest]

swapped immaterial focus for it, reasonable?

[chrome sail]

God I wish the dome shield was the base ability.

[wraith sphinx]

God no that would be so fucking boring

[fierce crest]

eh the reason to pick dome is sanctuary

the walls are still really good

[quartz barn]

Shriek is way better as a base ability

Both defensive and offensive

[chrome sail]

Nah, Dome as base would let us play around with so many other possiblities

[quartz barn]

Oh wait nvm not what you meant

[chrome sail]

Go full Void titan and have the damn thing cause explosions

[quartz barn]

Ngl thats just void bubble slander lmao

[chrome sail]

Have one side of the shield tree lean into electricty and have the other lean into soul fire

[quartz barn]

While i can see the "enemies gain x stacks of soulblaze upon entering the bubble" node it should probably be mortis only

[chrome sail]

Could make it on cast. So it only happens once

[quartz barn]

Hmm idk

[chrome sail]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-gif-26722749

[quartz barn]

In that case it would only affect enemies that happen to be in the bubble on cast, making it near worthless

But nah most of these ideas are cool and all but would just overload psyker even more

[chrome sail]

Nah, if it happens on cast, you can now spread it with Wildfire. Grab enough elites/mobs and it'll work

[quartz barn]

Ye but thats not the nature of bubble

[solemn stone]

ok, someone correct if im wrong, "minus passive quelling" means that headache goes away slower, correct ?

[quartz barn]

This is just worse shriek

[mighty fractal]

yes

[chrome sail]

The idea is not meant to compete with shriek. It's meant to augment a shield playstyle. The factor is fun here.

[plucky flax]

I dont know what that is but sure

[quartz barn]

Thats why i said to just put it in mortis

[wind spruce]

The best way to make dome actually fun is to remove it from the game

[fierce crest]

could drop perilous combustion

dont really care for quietude in this build so it would save 2 points

[silk steeple]

Why does people use flame staff with really low warp resistance (like 10-20) with talents to reduce peril generation (battle meditation)?

[fierce crest]

cuz battle meditation also quells

[wind spruce]

"Smite just turns off enemies meleeing you!! 😡" as though dome doesn't do that for ranged enemies

Lame ass ability

[fierce crest]

smite doesnt have a cooldown

[plucky flax]

Ye tanky is cool. Pc not needed to

[twilit veldt]

on enpowered psionics for assail, is it better to run bio lodestone or overpowering souls?

[wind spruce]

You could keep two bubbles up permanently until like 4 days ago lmao

[silk steeple]

Why they use low warp resistance?

[quartz barn]

To balance out peril gain while still being able to get fully charged casts off in the 80-100 peril range

[white sky]

I am trying to reach a numerical quantifier not actually play the game, you must understand

[fierce crest]

dang that also means no souldrinker, so i have even more points

whats the mod that tells you your average DD stacks

[plucky flax]

Unless you run soulblaze fgs meme dont take souldrinker

[fierce crest]

now i might wanna swap back to 25 stacks

[wind spruce]

Since no one is able to articulate the real reason, it's that you can spam shriek so much with a warp charges build that you actually can't use it on cooldown AND maintain high peril in higher difficulties, so you need to up the peril you're generating

[fierce crest]

it was with PC for more crit

[plucky flax]

Pc alone doesn't do much

I did ~120k soulblaze damage always with bubble knight in havoc

[fierce crest]

its more every elite kill is basically +5% crit chancce

[wind spruce]

Gaming without friends feels 😭

[fierce crest]

one of these for final point maybe

[wind spruce]

No it doesn't because soulblaze has to get the killing blow to proc souldrinker

[fierce crest]

welp

dumpstered

[wind spruce]

Although if you have other psykers in your team running soulblaze builds souldrinker is still good because it can proc from other psyker's soulblaze kills lel

You can be across the map from your teammate and their kills will proc your souldrinker hehe

[sinful perch]

Oh my God I'm trying to sleep and I just like heard the poxburster ticking noise as I was drifting off 😭

[fierce crest]

just tested and it does

[wind spruce]

Psykhanium only

[quartz barn]

Mfw the simulation lies

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/XnrN8Q

@fierce crest

[silk steeple]

I watched this video https://youtu.be/kOhBrIQtpYE?si=5oZanyOCjbcPs2Q1, he uses low warp resistance with battle meditation and bobble

If you want to keep high peril, why use battle meditation? It lowers your peril. If you get too much peril, why lower warp resistance?

[fierce crest]

the talents i showed you

as well as some blessings

[wind spruce]

Because it's havoc and you quell slower, but having your staff generate more peril still let's you get up to high peril quicker

It is counter-intuitive to be fair

[silk steeple]

Hm ok

[quartz barn]

Like i said, its to balance ou peril gain / maintain high peril

But this setup is almost exclusive to havoc

Works in regular content but harder to manage

[silk steeple]

Thanks for explaining

[quartz barn]

Also id recommend experimenting to see what balance you prefer

Because this is literally my setup on flame staff as well

But on voidblast (soulblaze setup with shriek) i have warp resist at 80 because i gain peril way too quickly for my playstyle

In the end it just depends on your attack / quell rythm and staff usage

[spice flame]

Question, I've always used DD with voidstrike, but, is there a case where left keystone is just better ?

[radiant frigate]

yes with 0% HS rate

and no crit

[spice flame]

big no then

[radiant frigate]

warp siphon is really more for the cdr

[spice flame]

for sure

[radiant frigate]

the damage is nice but dd does that better

[spice flame]

tho I'm also used to use shriek instead of SG with voidstrike which is maybe not the greatest idea

[radiant frigate]

shriek voidstrike is great

[vernal temple]

It is done
never doing those event missions again lol

[radiant frigate]

good grief you work quickly

that's what, 200+ plasma gunners a day?

[vernal temple]

~50-60 plasma gunners per mission assuming I rush forward and clap them all before the team does

[spice flame]

barely played the event tbh, I'm a bit more busy those days and I'm mostly playing mael anyway

[radiant frigate]

"if you draw against his hand, you can never win" indeed

[spice flame]

oh yeah I like it, but now that the tree is changed and all, I might give SG a try

[vernal temple]

Go ahead!
Play Darktide with the living dead!

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-piano-music-gif-11016376031114117781

[wraith sphinx]

siblings I think I've found my flow with the big sword

I am happy

[vernal temple]

big sword cool

[radiant frigate]

perhaps i should
then i can take all the new talents for a spin instead of just theorizing

[spice flame]

do you mean to say that the FGS is real ?

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[spice flame]

no way

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1311781007623454740/caption-ezgif.com-reverse.gif

[vernal temple]

force greatswords are like birds

they don't exist

[radiant frigate]

birds? you mean government surveillance drones?

[vernal temple]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-dance-add-caption-yourself-memes-gif-8671517139854253689

[wraith sphinx]

peetah the greatsword is here

[radiant frigate]

everyone should get a greatsword

[vernal temple]

don't you know about the sword? well everyone's talking about the sword!

[radiant frigate]

pros:
looks cool
you can swing it around and then you feel better
cons: literally fucking none

[vernal temple]

can it kill heretics tho?

[radiant frigate]

I'd be surprised if it couldn't

[mighty fractal]

You can still do this sometimes fwiw

I had three up naturally in a h34 today

[vernal temple]

This is brilliant

But I like this

[wind spruce]

but bubble has a cooldown 😵‍💫

[mighty fractal]

You can't keep up two perma-permanently, but it's pretty common to have two up at a time if they don't get popped

assuming you max your cdr

[radiant frigate]

i like both of these

[spice flame]

not pog

[mighty fractal]

I'm still wondering at what point in the damage taken calc damage resistance applies, if you're running Just a Dream

[wind spruce]

lame ass abillity

[radiant frigate]

honestly i was expecting you to post mk6 next

expectation subverted

[mighty fractal]

If damage res applies before JaD's damage conversion, then these two talents could actually be super strong together

[wind spruce]

i posted a spreadsheet of damage calcs yesterday

[mighty fractal]

Do you have a link?

[radiant frigate]

yes but what about the peril gen

[mighty fractal]

or the pic handy

Does damage reduction affect the final peril gain, too?

[radiant frigate]

unleash the spreadsheet with 'evil colors' once more

[mighty fractal]

Like I said earlier, this is more like Path of Exile damage taken conversion than Unchained Sienna's passive in terms of how strong it is, if it works like how I think it does

[vernal temple]

I actually like the Mk VI more than the Mk VIII

But Mk VIII has a better horde clear moveset

[radiant frigate]

that's because you have taste

[vernal temple]

but I love the Mk VI strikedown heavy

if there was a BFG that had the light attacks of Mk VIII and the heavy attacks of Mk VI, it would be perfect

[wind spruce]

i mightve misundferstood what you were discussing

[radiant frigate]

yes the question was about peril gen

[mighty fractal]

Sorry, yeah, it was about the peril gen. This is super useful though

[wind spruce]

whats the question

[radiant frigate]

since all this DR is multiplicative order doesn't matter for damage taken

[mighty fractal]

Does damage resistance affect the amount of damage that gets converted to peril with Just a Dream?

[radiant frigate]

but if JaD triggers first it generates more peril than if it goes last

[mighty fractal]

Aye^

what she said

[radiant frigate]

it's probably preferable to have it go first

[wind spruce]

HMMM

should be easy to test

[mighty fractal]

If it does, it makes JaD even better for edging peril

[radiant frigate]

perpetual motion toughness generator with quietude

[mighty fractal]

along with battle med

It's very funny being able to take sniper/burster hits better than a vet now with Just a Dream

[radiant frigate]

how much toughness would one have to have in order to just shrug things off entirely with JaD

[mighty fractal]

(God I hope Unchained's passive gets reworked to work the same way, with the 97% peril cutoff)

I've been running triple toughness curios to get a feel for it

Running a little health might be better right now to help with consecutive plasma shots

Though, with triple toughness curios, I took a plasma shot to the shoulder with JaD and it did less than half my health

Which was pretty funny

I'm so glad melee psyker is legit now, though

Now give us even more force melees!!!

[wind spruce]

and @radiant frigate the answer is yes

[radiant frigate]

let's assume warp ghost and quietude so 5% toughness gained per 10% peril
let's assume a nice 100 damage bonk
75 goes through
25 peril generated
12.5% toughness gained
for that to break even, we would have to have a stupid amount of toughness

but if other DR triggers after it, it gets a little silly

[wind spruce]

oh thats what you mean by break even

quietude.

[mighty fractal]

Yeppers

[wind spruce]

quite funny in concept lmao

[mighty fractal]

You'd basically make a convoluted feedback loop

[radiant frigate]

toughness damage is Just a Dream

[mighty fractal]

of damage taken > damage converted to peril > toughness generated

And the toughness generated would help with the next hit you take (often multiple stray bullets in a row)

[radiant frigate]

but if this is goes first when stacked with other sources of DR it can get dumb fast

let's say 10% immaterial 10% node 10% owtw 20% sg

then suddenly it's just 43 damage

[wind spruce]

wtf is the formula for peril gained with dream

[radiant frigate]

says 25% of damage taken

[wind spruce]

nvm my brain is just cooked

[radiant frigate]

and if we have 200 max toughness

then suddenly we turned 100 damage into 18

[acoustic jacinth]

Is shriek still the best pick dps-wise for purg staff now that you can overstack sb so easily?

[wind spruce]

so yeah if a hit does 100, that's 25% peril which is 10% toughness gained so we'd need 1000 toughness

[radiant frigate]

and if we quell it off, we have more than we started with

[wind spruce]

or we only need 500 toughness xD

GOALS

[radiant frigate]

12.5% with warp ghost

[plucky flax]

Yeah what else you gonna pick to increase dps?

[radiant frigate]

suddenly peril is your health bar

[mighty fractal]

I read that as warp goat

but yes

This is basically... Unchained, but designed better

[wind spruce]

omg only 400 needed

[radiant frigate]

unchained's unlikely return

[wind spruce]

we getting close

[mighty fractal]

IF JaD works like how I want it to

[acoustic jacinth]

That's the thing lol. SG could not work with it so.. still sb shriek though right? Despite using purg the new damage taken subnode is inferior or?

[plucky flax]

Damage taken sub node?

[wind spruce]

@radiant frigate we can get 208 toughness so we half way there

[radiant frigate]

still reducing incoming damage by half simply by existing

[acoustic jacinth]

Am i misremembering? What used to be flat damage for it (instead of soulblaze) got changed right?

[wind spruce]

no no

thats not whats happening

we're regaining half the toughness we take back the instant we take it

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[wind spruce]

but incoming damage isnt always reduced by half

[radiant frigate]

mmm, true

[wind spruce]

bc you'll take more if you arent at full

[radiant frigate]

we can still get bonked and die

[wind spruce]

double bonks still death 🙁

[radiant frigate]

but if we get bonked and live, we bounce back stupid fast

[wind spruce]

yup

[radiant frigate]

or we just become hilariously bullet-resistant

built-in deflector for all psykers that doesn't require blocking

it's peak

and that's before EE

[wind spruce]

this is why we are the best

[mighty fractal]

So long as you aren't getting oneshot, you can massively reduce the damage you take from a single hit while also improving your ability to stay alive in firefights

basically

[wind spruce]

pretty much

[mighty fractal]

On top of Empathic Evasion and all that

Yeah this is basically a Path of Exile build in darktide lmao

[radiant frigate]

it's stupid in all the right ways

[wind spruce]

just make sure you dont take any peril resistance talents

bc that nerfs dream

[mighty fractal]

Ahhhh

[radiant frigate]

welcome back mana shield

[wind spruce]

its ok, true psyker doesnt take any (right side psyker)

[summer prairie]

It doesn't seem to be generating toughness with quietude

[mighty fractal]

I might still take Battle Med for comfort

[wind spruce]

get fucked

dream killer

[mighty fractal]

Aww

if that's true

[wind spruce]

pun unintended

[mighty fractal]

Fatshark knew...

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-gif-24664106

[mighty fractal]

Alright, which one of you psyker playtesters failed in your duty to sneak this interaction through

that would have been hilarious

[radiant frigate]

it would have been so fucking funny

[wind spruce]

tbf i shouldve realised

[radiant frigate]

are you certain

[wind spruce]

bc it wouldve affected my testing

yeah kat, i just tested it

[summer prairie]

well it's easy to see

[wind spruce]

get bonked with and without quietude and you end up at the same toughness

BUT

the quelling part still works

just not instant 🙁

[radiant frigate]

ok so we take bcob and get silly with it

and/or TTS

[versed hedge]

BUG

[mighty fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-soul-left-leave-body-gif-18140969

[mighty fractal]

That's a lot of rejects

I've seen five people in one loading screen before

but never six

[radiant frigate]

squad size upgrades hitting hard

[mighty fractal]

And yeah, Just a Dream is still really strong

[summer prairie]

similarly blocking with KD does not generate toughness from quietude

[mighty fractal]

just... not secretly broken lol

[mighty fractal]

Yeah I can confirm that

[radiant frigate]

what about peril gen from sg

[summer prairie]

No I'm wrong

[mighty fractal]

It would have been almost as stupid as when Kinetic Deflection had a feedback loop with itself on release

where you'd block, convert it to peril, then vent the peril

wait hold up

[summer prairie]

KD works

[mighty fractal]

Oooooh

[summer prairie]

but it generates too little

[radiant frigate]

deflector KD in case you just want to hold block for toughness in a firefight

[summer prairie]

to matter

if anything it's bad because it stops your passive quelling

[mighty fractal]

Ahhh

I guess it's so chaotic that I never really noticed

I'm always quelling to edge when I get the chance anyway

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/Yl6Q6N

ok not that we couldnt do this before but this is still pretty funny

silly pogryn with his lil tickles

(excuse the quality lol)

[restive slate]

What do you use to get that?

[wind spruce]

to get what?

[dusk wren]

scrier + the toughness on quell/gain i think

• the talent that converts some damage to uhhh

[restive slate]

Ahhhh thankies

[dusk wren]

cristalline will

[wind spruce]

yeah its just quietude + quelling and then damage resist talents

thats literally it

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/L2V5vR

ONE SOYKER

Vs

20 SHOOTERS

WHO WILL WIN?!?

@radiant frigate

[radiant frigate]

peak psyker

no harm will come to you as long as you meditate

[wind spruce]

🫡

[wraith sphinx]

[wind spruce]

@summer prairie does Uptime track shred for you

[summer prairie]

I guess it's not tracking shred or riposte

[wind spruce]

it tracks riposte for me

[summer prairie]

Oh, I just tested in psykhanium but maybe it just didn't add that session yet

[wind spruce]

doesnt track wrath either

i wanted it to head to head with riposte, ahwell

but im only getting 15-25% riposte uptime @summer prairie

and thats leaning very heavily into melee

kinda garbo but hard to tell without another melee buff being tracked

[summer prairie]

that's very bad but the uptime is probably higher when fighting melee elites rather than farming horde

[wind spruce]

I actually don't know about that

Low cleave on FGS means you're having to dodge hordies quite a bit

And melee elites end up getting staggered so much

[summer prairie]

at least in havoc you are fighting multiple melee elites at once though, being forced to dodge

[wind spruce]

I was in havoc, if your whole team is there you can easily just not be the one targeted by any of them that aren't getting staggered

[summer prairie]

Can't find any explanation as to why some blessings aren't tracked

[wind spruce]

RIP

[summer prairie]

Apparently currently the total uptime includes time when you are wielding a different weapon/blitz

[wind spruce]

Yeah i assumed as much

thats why i wanted shred as a comparison

[summer prairie]

Someone has done some work towards fixing that and also specifically tracking peril

And I'm guessing it currently doesn't work with buffs that can end when you fail a weapon chain

[wind spruce]

That wouldn't apply to wrath

[summer prairie]

oh right

[wind spruce]

@summer prairie

seems to track most blessings

[plucky flax]

When I press the uptime hotkey I crash.

[wind spruce]

just happened to me twice on exiting the history

[summer prairie]

delete old history

[wind spruce]

but i think its a skill issue

[plucky flax]

Is it stored in mod folder?

[summer prairie]

no

[plucky flax]

Okay found it I'll try it on the pc at home.

My laptop seems to work maybe cos not as many games on here.

[ornate hamlet]

Based statistics

[plucky flax]

Latest skitarius on nexus fixed staff charging issue.

[wind spruce]

decimator also doesnt track

pathetic

[marble crater]

When so many things don't track, how can you be sure the things that are being tracked are actually correct?

[ornate hamlet]

fef

fef, kindred

[wind spruce]

Manual timing and maths

Pretty easy to test it, just proc a buff a few times without it refreshing and see if it comes up with the expected value

[summer prairie]

it doesn't manually implement tracking for everything, it hooks into the interface and basically seems to work based on the hud icons

[wind spruce]

Yeah I figured that was why it stated it doesn't work with better buff management

Reads the wrong ui element or whatever

[marble crater]

Does it track buffs that don't have an icon at the moment because the bar is full?

[summer prairie]

it implemented a fix for that

[wind spruce]

On nexus?

[summer prairie]

not that

[weary crane]

I've low-key got a warp unbound timer just built into my head now

Don't have to look or listen

[plucky flax]

Must be pro

[twilit veldt]

lmao

im running scryiers smite

[jovial juniper]

They are speaking the truth still

[wind spruce]

Hmmm, only 40% uptime for the non-warp half of malefic

[jovial juniper]

A bit of an overreaction though

[wind spruce]

Actually doing fairly little work

[weary crane]

It used to only affect warp attacks I think

[wind spruce]

Something like that yeah

But I mean right now, with an assail gunker build

90%+ plus uptime on the warp damage half of the talent but that's only buffing shards and FGS special

Need to assail weave more

[weary crane]

Used to be able to assail macro and empty them in 2 seconds

[wind spruce]

I miss machine gun void

My macro for that was so cooked but it was perfect

[dusk wren]

do people go with empowered psionics or with warp siphon for flame staff

[marble crater]

You can do both, warp siphon if you want to use your ability more, EP if you want to use your blitz more. The former is more common

[white valley]

Warp is the better choice

[marble crater]

I don't use my blitz enough to get good value out of EP to begin with

[dusk wren]

true

what about the capstone upgrades

[white valley]

Inferno staff is usually paired with BB, and no one is spamming empowered BBs

[marble crater]

For Inferno and Warp Siphon? I pick the 6 charges and getting charges on soulblaze kills

[dusk wren]

no Essence Harvest?

[marble crater]

You really have enough toughness, unless you skip a lot of important talents at the top

[weary crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hhAU7TQPjrQ

[dusk wren]

btw, i haven't played much with the inferno staff, you want to always be using the secondary fire right? (except to stagger enemies)

[marble crater]

Pretty much, I only use the primary fire to stagger or if I also need to move somewhere while still dealing some damage

Otherwise secondary wherever you can for as much as you can

Burn them all

[dusk wren]

sounds about right, people also have moved away from the brittle on hit blessing on it right?

penetrating flame

[marble crater]

I don't think that was ever really a big thing, the only use that I know of is in combination with a rending voidblast staff, to really shred the armor of crushers

[dusk wren]

i dunno, i've seen through the years debates over warp nexus, blaze away and penetrating fire (to deal with carapace enemies)

the little time i used it i always felt like i tickled maulers and crusher if i tried to flame them, so it didn't seem like a good idea to take penetrating flames

[marble crater]

It's useless against crushers, very good against all other elites though

For crushers switch to melee

[mighty fractal]

Penetrating Flame is very good into Mauler and Rager swarms

[white valley]

Penetrating flame might be better now than it used to be tbh

Since we have 10% more crit chance than before, via souldrinker and the 5% crit node

[buoyant maple]

Doesn’t change much because of soulblaze already having good ADM vs flak

[white valley]

Brittleness is a debuff though, and therefore increases the team's damage as a whole

[buoyant maple]

This part is pretty heavily overrated because it works best if your team is hitting them with attacks that aren’t good against them

[white valley]

That's technically true, but it's still a damage increase nonetheless

And against carapace and unyielding brittleness is always welcome

[slender radish]

Any tips to stepup my game in 30+ havocs? I'm running bubble/BB/flame staff but I feel like I have no place for errors

Also what's my best bet to deal with crushers

[marble crater]

Stab them in the head with your melee

[white valley]

Invite an Ogryn to the group

[slender radish]

That implies trusting my random teamates

[buoyant maple]

Nah just carapace usually

[white valley]

Yes, Havoc demands a degree of coordination that isn't required anywhere else

[pale prairie]

I guess just be a sad clown

[white valley]

Honestly, for inferno psykers the optimal move against crushers is to keep flaming everything else and trust that your team can handle them (but this requires competent teammates)

[pale prairie]

Yeah crusher is supposed to be the counter to the power of the flame. Thats why they buffed their hp 😭

[wind spruce]

Keystone

[slender radish]

That's what i'm doing but people lack threat assesment

[white valley]

Havoc monstrosities have 70k hp, even 5% extra damage taken is always good

[slender radish]

Theres only so much you can deal with by yourself

[dusk wren]

i do this or spam primary (to stagger them)

ideally alternate

[white valley]

Duelling sword or Force Sword are your best bets, Chainaxe isn't bad either

[slender radish]

I'm running dsword. I feel like I've hit my cap of running havocs with randos at 30

[fading galleon]

You have no place for errors in havoc 30+. This is correct

[buoyant maple]

Neither part is true
They have a lot more than 70k depending on the specific monster
And good monster dps weapons almost always just do not care about brittleness given the damage conversion is horrible

[white valley]

20% brittleness above 1 ADM is 5% more damage

Also affects all DoTs

[buoyant maple]

This matters insignificantly little compared to nexus’ crit chance in majority of cases

[white valley]

Bleed for example does not have an ADM of 1 against Unyielding, it's .75 or .7 if my memory serves

Perhaps, I am not saying penetrating flame is better than nexus

I never said that

Simply that it might be a better pick now than before

22.5% crit chance is decent enough to proc mettle and perfect timing

[quartz barn]

Play to your build's strength, proper positioning for big fire dmg, using bubble to either secure an area, push or give you some wiggle room and proper pacing

[wind spruce]

We also have 20% rending from the tree which makes pene flames worse

[quartz barn]

Also getting good at sliding and dodging is mandatory

[rapid goblet]

hello, I have a little question about deimos mk4 attacks pattern, it has light poke as L1 attack, but after next H2 attack it became different swing, is there a way to maintain L1 poke attack as it is without it changing to different swing?

[gilded plover]

I dont understand Stamina.. I have a curio that is +2 stamina but regardless of whether I have it equipped or not, my stamina is the same. Also there is a talent that gives me +2 stamina, and again, regardless or whether I take the talent or not, my stamina is the same... ???

[pale prairie]

If you’re having trouble because stuff isn’t getting killed you could try switching to venting shriek with creeping flames if you’re confident on your sliding game and have EE

[white valley]

Block cancel

[buoyant maple]

H2 chains to L3 light
You’d need to block to reset combo

[marble crater]

Just fyi, the H2 is your best attack

[buoyant maple]

Do u have the 4 bar segment turned on in interface settings?

[gilded plover]

Not sure what you mean. I see my stamina below crosshair whenever I hit or aim

[buoyant maple]

Settings - interface - stamina segment

There’s a setting to make your stamina bar always display as 4 segments regardless of how many stamina bars you have

I believe it’s turned on by default

[pale prairie]

Anybody figured out how to get the dodge bar to display the correct amount?

[buoyant maple]

Play weapons with <4 dodges at base

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/he-is-smart-lindsey-graham-saturday-night-live-hes-a-genius-he-knows-everything-gif-20430615

[gilded plover]

You were right, thank you

[deft stump]

So 17 bars?

[slender radish]

I can deal with anything that's not crusher blobs and bosses. I'm just wondering about other player priorities sometimes. Flame staff can litterally cc almost anything. I do minimal damage to crushers and bosses and I can't deal with them when i'm dealing with the hordes. Also can't brainburst snipers when i'm flamin'

[marble crater]

It always shows one less than max

Because Fatshark said so, it's a warning or something

[pale prairie]

Never change Karien

[marble crater]

Higher numbers hard to understand

[pale prairie]

Dumb why wouldn’t I use all the dodges I have!

[buoyant maple]

?

[rapid goblet]

perhaps I do something wrong, I can get H2 only after push, or this is right?

[deft stump]

Is a joke, I run +9 stam with warp ghost.

[marble crater]

But the conversation is about dodge

[buoyant maple]

Didn’t you want L1 stab?

[rapid goblet]

yeah

[quartz barn]

Prio is a minor issue then, crushers die in a few hits so you can safely melee them (are also more important to clear over the regular horde anyway)

[pale prairie]

Yeah I get it but if going defensive isn’t working might as well grab more flame stacks. Potentially killing the horde more will mean that your dumb Allie’s have nothing to focus on except for stuff you can’t kill fast

[rapid goblet]

so if it even possible tho

[quartz barn]

As for snipers just dodge and let wildfire clear them

You have bubble anyway

[pale prairie]

Shut up! The Karien speaks

[deft stump]

Oh. Then is sus.

[wind spruce]

So many ways to deal with crushers on inferno. Just run 20% rending and they'll die in 30s or so. Run pene flames. Hit them with your melee weapon. Put flames on them, swap to melee and stack uncanny strike.

[buoyant maple]

Right click mouse
Release
Do light attack (should be L1 because combo reset)

[pale prairie]

I want +17 dodges no joke

[rapid goblet]

my idea was L1 stab H2 stab and repeat

[marble crater]

L1 H2, block, L1 H2

[deft stump]

Naw, I just woke from depression sleeping. So still tired.

[deft stump]

Agile.

[pale prairie]

I always enjoy hearing about your 17 stamina meme build

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmm isn’t that vet?

[deft stump]

That's DS or Tac Axe.

[pale prairie]

Ooof never used tax axe and I dropped DS a couple years ago

My noob is showing

[deft stump]

Is a joke about inf dodges for hitting heads.

[pale prairie]

Isn’t a joke if it works!

[quartz barn]

You didnt just fail the emperor, you also failed holy karien

[rapid goblet]

thank you, I got it

[pale prairie]

I will run auric maelstrom with pubs as a penance

[slender radish]

I'll try tweaking my blessings to see if it makes a diff

[deft stump]

Planning to run ep assail?

With inferno and Deimos?

[pale prairie]

No just only melee

I will embrace the crushers

[deft stump]

You have to with that build though.

Assail and inferno do nothing.

[wind spruce]

Inferno does nothing to crushers 💀

C'mon

[buoyant maple]

Yes
Block
Cancel block
Light 1
Heavy 2
Repeat this

[pale prairie]

Deimos though

[deft stump]

It's truth. Feel free to slowly chip them down if you want.

[deft stump]

Is why forced to melee.

[pale prairie]

I mean inferno does okay against crushers with all stacks. I just have to run away bravely

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm fair. I was planning to die by plasma crusher wombo combo

[deft stump]

Kill plasma, KILL.

[royal totem]

So yesterday i achieved a record of how many times i can blow myself up in one game. it was 6

[wind spruce]

Switch to force sword

Push

Flame

[deft stump]

Highest I saw was like 8 deaths with 4 wounds, half were self boom.

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am trying your holiness. Those fuckers keep hiding in the back of horses

[pale prairie]

I know HOW to do it this is all an extended joke about penance

[royal totem]

Damn. I didnt manage to set a record 🙁

[pale prairie]

That’s beautiful

[deft stump]

I basically had to solo that run.

[pale prairie]

A half dozen bouquet of flaming rose explosions

[pale prairie]

Oooooooof

[wind spruce]

What is... "joke"?

[royal totem]

Ah. The Karien carry!

[pale prairie]

It’s when you start yelling all caps fake scripture to someone who doesn’t understand psykhanium experiments about DR

[royal totem]

i found out when i get very tilted as psyker i tend to blow myself up

[deft stump]

Vent is gud.

[white valley]

It does if you have a bully club ogryn in the group

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-exploding-exploding-spongebob-blow-up-hanhell-gif-20905608

[royal totem]

Was running inferno bubble so no vent 🙁

[wind spruce]

Awh shit I forgot about scriptures. Miss them.

[deft stump]

RIP.

[wind spruce]

And grims even more

[royal totem]

even more funny, its the auric histg i went on to clutch.

[deft stump]

You goofed till you had to lock in.

I get it.

[jovial juniper]

Finally a reason to play brautos

[marble crater]

When did they add those?

[dusk timber]

Since day 1

[royal totem]

"I cant do this" ~~what i say everytime before clutching.

[marble crater]

Horses? Never seen any

[dusk timber]

Sounds like a skill issue

[deft stump]

ALSO, WDYM 'YOUR HOLINESS'??? DO YOU WANT A TINKERER KRAK TO THE FACE?

[royal totem]

Maybe i should take crystalline will. Then if i blow up it looks intentional!

[pale prairie]

Good job

[pale prairie]

So you’re a liar AND a carrying chad

[deft stump]

I just why spam. Why am I the last one alive, why am I always forced into this spot, why is it when I wanna do stupid fate laughs at me, why am I clutching as a stealth zealot now?

[pale prairie]

……..no?

[royal totem]

Cuz Karien amazing carry apparently

[royal totem]

I genuinely always believe i cant do it

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-just-have-to-handle-the-whole-job-by-myself-dexter-dexter's-laboratory-if-you-want-something-done-right-do-it-yourself-i-guess-i-have-to-do-this-on-my-own-gif-9678686030522252909

[pale prairie]

You and Karien are birds of a feather than

[deft stump]

Not really, it just happens at times. I'm bad at the game with a half broken dodge button.

[pale prairie]

Hey Karien we found your apprentice

[pale prairie]

AHA YOU ADMIT YOU DO

[royal totem]

So a half broken space bar?

[deft stump]

So you want kraks to the face.

[deft stump]

Left bumper.

[royal totem]

Ah i see

[deft stump]

Yes, I use controller. Even worse to some.

[pale prairie]

She uses a controller it just adds to her legend

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-secret-secret-pas-un-mot-stand-by-me-no-word-gif-21201403

[royal totem]

Nothing wrong with controllers

[pale prairie]

I respect good play with a controller. Unless they play bad like Sut then I flame

[royal totem]

Also, didnt know Karien plays zealot

[pale prairie]

She plays every class

Legend

[deft stump]

I play everything actually.

Vet main though.

[royal totem]

Respect.

[pale prairie]

Any time that one guy in your lobby is carrying it might be Karien in an alternate

[dusk timber]

Only issue with controller is being restricted to preset layouts

[deft stump]

My chars are obviously named.

You know if I'm trying.

[dusk timber]

And not being able to do a half turn quickly

[pale prairie]

This is heartbreaking

His turning is too slow 😭

[royal totem]

Pain

[marble crater]

You will notice that I turned really fast when I actually noticed the crusher, I only turned slow to check for specials from that corridor

[deft stump]

Still not as fast as a mouse in most cases. And I run linear so probably slower.

[royal totem]

Dun worry ive gotten carried to where i am.

[marble crater]

Turn your sensitivity up to max and see how fast you turn

I think it's fast enough

[austere warren]

No dedicated 180 button?

[deft stump]

That makes me sick.

[quartz barn]

Unless you slide dodge 360 voidstrike like me theres no need

[royal totem]

I assume Karien carried me :3

[pale prairie]

Yeah and now it’s your turn to carry the next generation

The cycle of Darktide

[marble crater]

Yes, but it's not an issue of not being able to do, if you wanted to

[austere warren]

It's a helpful option for anyone willing to use it tbh. Simple accessibility control choice.

[pale prairie]

This guy still uses voidstrike!!!

Cheer him

[austere warren]

Voidstrike fun.

[quartz barn]

Not as much tho

Worst staff atm

[pale prairie]

They’ve murdered our boy

[austere warren]

Grape staff fun.

[royal totem]

Im not ready to carry! I still die sometimes!

[quartz barn]

Ye i was there before it got buffed and became the only thing to use

[austere warren]

Haven't used it in a while so I guess I'll see just how bad people say it is.

[pale prairie]

Yeah the slow bored turn. Then the quick panic look before death

[quartz barn]

Wasted so many mats on that thing

[pale prairie]

You’re ready

[deft stump]

Depends.

[quartz barn]

This is perfect, even includes the "now its your turn" moment

[pale prairie]

Yeah shortly after I joined they buffed it and I mained for like a year

[deft stump]

I still die when I fail clutches or do H40.

[pale prairie]

You die for our sins

😭

[royal totem]

I dont do h40! Thats the diff

[pale prairie]

Yeah you’re her apprentice

You’ll get there

[royal totem]

I die in auric! Were not the same 😢

[pale prairie]

*clutch in auric

[deft stump]

Wait till someone drags you there at 300 ping and then you get broken in to adapting to it...

[royal totem]

....wait tho...thats the first time ive ever clutched on psyker

[royal totem]

Luckily nobody is insane enough to drag me to h40

[quartz barn]

Dont make me get back into dt

Js its not that hard

Depends on the map tho

[marble crater]

I also die in auric, see clip above

[deft stump]

Because that happened to me season 1 and well...

[pale prairie]

And now she is Karien

[royal totem]

Ive only been playing 1.5 months T.T

[deft stump]

Also, I can die even in heresy because plasma bs at 280-360 ping is horrible unfun bs.

[royal totem]

Plasma gunner nerf when

[pale prairie]

“KARIEN —> Karry en —> carrying”

[pale prairie]

Probably never

[deft stump]

I have always used that here...

[pale prairie]

[deft stump]

Kid has no clue what some of them will do.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/savmink-gif-21169707

[quartz barn]

Need to flex somehow

Sometimes you just need to show up

[royal totem]

So i can relax never being taken to h40?

[marble crater]

No

You are basically begging for it

[royal totem]

why does nut's pic remind me of plants vs zombies

[quartz barn]

[buoyant maple]

2 months maybe

[pale prairie]

Cause it is from that

[pale prairie]

Damn that’s some strong faith

Zealot over here

[royal totem]

Def not. If im taken to h40 ill die over and over

[buoyant maple]

There’re a lot of complaints with their design tbh

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/alright-you-asked-for-it-cartman-south-park-you-said-it-fine-gif-22243963

[buoyant maple]

Even from playtesters who played it internally before us

[quartz barn]

Good, more revive snd rescue penance progress

[patent mango]

if they wanted a stealth unit plasma gunner wasnt the best for it lmao

[pale prairie]

I agree about that but there were a lot of complaints about arbites and they threw a wet paper airplane of a nerf at them.

I am more thinking 2 months is pretty fast for them cause WINTER VACATION IS COMING

[royal totem]

This is why ill never be as good as my friend lol

[buoyant maple]

Given how much stronger the other classes got, arb is relatively not the strongest anymore so whatever

Psyker far above the rest atm

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-wag-justin-bieber-confident-song-nope-no-gif-17366024248084432562

[buoyant maple]

New zealot tree is so stacked in damage it’s crazy

[pale prairie]

Truuuuuue. I guess the hp buff without a damage increase might have helped balance them

[buoyant maple]

And vet is very strong contender for top 2 class rn

[royal totem]

I saw a zealot make a boss disappear

[pale prairie]

I want to see more cracked zealots. Feel like I have seen a few but the majority have been shaking off some significant rust

[buoyant maple]

Well
Arb maul still 4 tap crusher even with the buffed hp

[pale prairie]

So you think they are in a good place or not?

[pine relic]

Any suggestions?

[royal totem]

Damn. I cant 4 tap a crusher with my arb maul

[buoyant maple]

The weapon itself? Too good

But I wouldn’t call arb better than vet atm tbh

[pale prairie]

Ahhhh that makes sense. I feel like the eviscerator shotgun might be overtuned but I haven’t actually seen any arbies in a while so maybe the meta is healing

[buoyant maple]

I think ogryn and arb are top 4-5

[pale prairie]

At least top 6

[pale prairie]

Gunker or meleeker?

[buoyant maple]

What I can say for sure is everybody besides psyker is top 2-5

[deft stump]

And you will learn, trial by fire way. 300 ping H40 spiciest teacher.

[pine relic]

melee

[pale prairie]

Suggestion 1 would be assail over smite

[pale prairie]

Suggestion 2 would be grabbing warp ghost and at least one of the DR talents

[royal totem]

Nobody in this channel has an h40 they would drag me to so im 100% safe

[pine relic]

I'm just gonna use staff, don't really like the projectile

[pale prairie]

Personally, and this is just me, I find peril edging hard with BCoB. But I recognize there are schools of melee that like to SG stack as high as possible instead of peril edging.

[viscid matrix]

swap the 2 smite talents for the ranged crit quell and reload speed?

if you are not a gunker, then your build is fine
maybe grab Just a Dream and or One wiht the Warp

[royal totem]

I tried out smite yesterday

[pale prairie]

Use EK then cause it really benefits from crit

[royal totem]

It's no bb

[pale prairie]

It’s ina weird place yeah

[viscid matrix]

its job isnt to kill, its to disable hordes

while still killing them

[royal totem]

I dont like assail and id take assail over smite.

[patent jacinth]

Smite's job is to alert me to bad players

[pale prairie]

Yeah but it’s super boring and inferno can do just as well if not better at killing

[viscid matrix]

your right, but if you are a gunker, thats not an option

[pale prairie]

But smite with SG?

That seems meme worthy

[patent jacinth]

If you're a gunker you can just kill everything

[pine relic]

ok, thanks guys, I'm just gonna play for several games to see if this build works.

[pale prairie]

Time spent smiting is time not murdering in melee or gun while SG maxing

[viscid matrix]

reality anchor helps a lot

[pale prairie]

Good luck

[pale prairie]

But he didn’t grab that

Hence

[royal totem]

I know what smite's job is. I just dont like it lmao

[pale prairie]

Why I said

[buoyant maple]

Most zealot builds can solo kill bosses extremely quickly rn but not all of them are good vs mixed horde

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jUqYvBf_SIr3mUjtoFYDSlDIHiBFmV6BPAZXORs_fqU/https/cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/14038428201081533956/0A0161096708D4744F0A7062A41BBD6B7D8B8F0A/

[gilded plover]

How exactly does this talent work? If I have 2 health bars and let myself explode 2x = Im dead?

[viscid matrix]

same as if you go down

it just doesnt let you go down the first time

[pale prairie]

Fucking nice block there that was cool

[gilded plover]

so its pretty useless

[viscid matrix]

elite enemy is a large pool, tbh if you can manage to kill them, its pretty good lol

[patent jacinth]

Or

[pale prairie]

IF you kill an elite with the explosion you take no damage or corruption

[patent jacinth]

You learn to manage peril and don't create bad habits

[royal totem]

Its not.

[pale prairie]

I have heard it’s inconsistent though

[gilded plover]

I see

[viscid matrix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?query=&type=ELITE

here is the list of elites

[royal totem]

I wouldnt say its amazing but not useless

[gilded plover]

So the talent goes like this Overload peril > no knockdown but 1/2hp corrupted > overload again > 2/2hp corrupted = knockdown (or death?)

[pale prairie]

It’s a learning tool but eventually that point is better spent elsewhere

[gilded plover]

thanks

[royal totem]

There are times where if you down nobody can get to you/res in time.

[viscid matrix]

death second time if you only have 2 bars, if you kill elite no corruption or damage

[pale prairie]

Dead

[buoyant maple]

Yes
Because the explosion damage even with this talent is not good

[royal totem]

I took it off my builds lol

[gilded plover]

Thanks guys

[pale prairie]

Exactamundo

[viscid matrix]

it would have been nice when we were going for the achievement 😄

[dusk wren]

it should be changed to also make you faster and invulnerable when exploding and increase the explosion damage by a significant number

[royal totem]

.....except one build but thats a "haha i think its funny" build

[pale prairie]

“BACK IN MY DAY”

[buoyant maple]

It is a significant increase to explosion damage

[viscid matrix]

that acheivement is still there too

[pale prairie]

An it should be folded into SG when you reach 100%

[buoyant maple]

It’s just not high enough to 1 tap most elite enemies given their health pool

[pale prairie]

I am joking

[dusk wren]

yeah i mean like 300%

[wraith sphinx]

ourgh damned havoc

[royal totem]

I got that achieve by accident

[dusk wren]

create a new generation of kamikaze psykers

[wraith sphinx]

play one match with a taunt ogryn, everything is fine, he leaves before we star tthe next one and everyone loses their braincells

[pale prairie]

It should just keep same damage but has a one shot mechanic on elites

Then people would build it

[pale prairie]

He was the glue

[pale prairie]

Me too

[royal totem]

I played taunt ogryn last night

Felt ok

[pine relic]

like this?

[wraith sphinx]

I wasted like 15 minutes in total waiting for the rest of the team to stop fucking dawdling it was infuriating

and then they wiped

[pale prairie]

I love my taunt Ogryn

[wraith sphinx]

sleeping dh
two teammates just hang next to it killing 3 trashmobs

[pale prairie]

Ooof

[pale prairie]

Damn brother

[wraith sphinx]

dude like wtf do I do in this situation

[royal totem]

I cant decide whether to bully club or paxe

[pale prairie]

I prefer bully club cause it’s brain dead simple and my build focuses on fast swinging lights. Pickaxe is probably the superior pick if you get the movesets down

[pale prairie]

I dunno man. Sometimes I wonder how people make it to certain difficulties when they don’t realize to avoid DH or to pick up the medcrate

[winged trail]

karsolas pick 4 life

[royal totem]

Ever had a team fight every single DH?

[wraith sphinx]

they also always focus on bosses and let trash mobs kill them

[wraith sphinx]

oh yeah they ended up aggroing that dh somehow

[dusk timber]

Bully club also has skullcrusher

[wraith sphinx]

i should have quit the match then

[pale prairie]

Yes

[cursive thorn]

is melee pskyer more durable this update

feels a lot harder to die

[wraith sphinx]

yes to both

[pale prairie]

Yes it does indeed

[cursive thorn]

what did they change

[wraith sphinx]

uff a lot

[pale prairie]

But this guy ain’t a quitter. I respect that

[viscid matrix]

we get 50 toughness from passive tree now, plus a lot of the toughness generation on tree is better

plus juicy damage

[wraith sphinx]

new toughness gen methods, quietude and warp exp merged, scriers gaze now regens tougness and gives tdr

new talent that reduces passive quelling by 80% making edging peril super easy and busted

[cursive thorn]

scriers gaze does what

[wraith sphinx]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff45845-e1cc-4b1b-9341-33815857c7ca/brainsplosion-gun-psyker-a-new-dawn-csgo-knife-surfer#talents

just look at these talent tree nodes see for yourself

[viscid matrix]

Souldrinker got buffed(fixed), it refreshes if you kill with blaze, instead of waiting for it to end, then procing

[pale prairie]

They rearranged the tree. Focused on more toughness over time talents.
Improved the top talents for toughness gen
Added a bunch of DR talents to middle of tree
Buffed warp siphon and SG
Added a unique talent that makes managing high peril levels easier cause it decreases slower.
Also we have a higher base toughness now because we get 50 mandatory from tree instead of 30 optional

[wraith sphinx]

if you have scrier's gaze on I'm pretty sure you can survive a mauler overhead by blocking

[gilded plover]

anyone running a brain rupture build that you can show me?

[wind wind]

Is Clad on this server still?

[wraith sphinx]

nope I think he left

[viscid matrix]

i found scrier's feels good on a warp build now, whereas before it was useless

[cursive thorn]

zealotification of every class

[plucky flax]

Did he die?

[cursive thorn]

wbt crusher

[gilded plover]

What keystone is the best for brain rupture in your opinion?

[plucky flax]

RIP to clad

[pale prairie]

They didn’t want to nerf DLC class so buffed everyone

[pale prairie]

With all bonuses and full health you can survive a crusher overhead

[viscid matrix]

empowered psionics
if you plan to use it a lot, DD is also good

[cursive thorn]

or just use dueling sword

[wraith sphinx]

banned for politics in general

[viscid matrix]

just parry it and take 0 damage

[plucky flax]

Damn clad got controversial.

[pale prairie]

Dueling sword was “nerfed” but because of damage buffs to talents it does more damage now than before. Also has a parry now that generates peril on psyker

[plucky flax]

This is why you don't talk politics in a public forum.

[gilded plover]

Im trying to figure out a good brain rupture build, havent tried DD yet, seemed more like a melee keystone

[wraith sphinx]

😭 gonna miss u clad

[wind wind]

When did that happen?

I never saw him post political stuff

[pale prairie]

Wait so banned from the server?

[viscid matrix]

it lights up a random enemy in view, and if you kill it you get a stack

its great with everything

[wraith sphinx]

from searching it up: this morning

[plucky flax]

#freeclad

[wind wind]

Where and why? If you dont mind could you DM me a Screenshot? If its not a bother

[gilded plover]

yeah I know what it does, but with hordes of enemies its kinda hard to get a line of sight of the highlighted enemy.. I used it on melee build and it worked well but i cant really imagine it with brain rupture.. maybe ill try

[cursive thorn]

dm me too i’m nosey

[fading galleon]

Clad started dropping political hot takes in a history conversation with a mod in it. Idk what he expected

[deft stump]

Wot.

[cursive thorn]

political hot takes in a history conversation

[gilded plover]

It seems that Brain Rupture works best with Warp Siphon

[wind wind]

Hmmm. Ok
Thats sad.

But rules are rules i guess
This is a private forum, not a public one.

[patent mango]

not to get political but smite should still be removed from darktide

[wind wind]

I noticed because i no longer could send him a dm. Sent him a friend request, maybe he sees it

[winged trail]

based

[fading galleon]

banned

[winged trail]

why does every smyker never have any idea how to use it

its more often i see incompetent smykers than ones that just shit on my fun

[jovial juniper]

Oh clad is gone?

Noooooooo!

[cursive thorn]

bc it’s usually new players who run it

[glacial vapor]

You can ban me too

I will not be a part of a server that supports smykers

[jovial juniper]

Who is going to get clowned on for playing ironhelm now

[gilded plover]

Seems like Empowered Psionics is a good keystone, but with Warp Siphon if I focus only Elites I can cast nonstop and very fast

[cursive thorn]

lightning from
hands is cool until you realize how boring it is

[dusk timber]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[jovial juniper]

Already am

[loud girder]

@clad....

wtf

[jovial juniper]

Specially and I kid you not

[wind wind]

He and Dilara duking it out in book club was always very hilarious

[jovial juniper]

Skullcrusher Shock and Awe

[wraith sphinx]

Rip warudo I will miss you 🫡

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-genuinely-over-seal-sad-seal-breaking-news-gif-243396507301445550

[jovial juniper]

Don't worry

The strongest build in the game got nerfed (it didn't)

Scriers Smite

Gaze builds more peril than before

Smite builds more peril than before

It's over

[wraith sphinx]

it's ok with reality anchor sg but also just not worth the overall point investment

every second I could spend smykering I'd rather spend lodging a greatsword up a crusher's nostril

[jovial juniper]

Reality Anchor still not worth using

Who would've guessed

[wraith sphinx]

precog stays winning true

[jovial juniper]

Tbf

60% (RA + Solidity) quelling speed is tempting

Unless they're multiplicative

Lemme check kulis

[summer prairie]

They are multiplicative in a good way

[wraith sphinx]

still doesn't feel as good as warp ghost edging

[summer prairie]

oh wait, in a bad way, but they are also multiplicative with the havoc penalty which is better than being additive

[wraith sphinx]

I tried slapping together a few quellmaxx builds and it just gave me flashbacks to my noob psyker days when I tried doing the same and was frustrated at constantly being the bottom feeder of every match

[jovial juniper]

Also solidity is 30% that is always active

Rip Reality Anchor

You were never good

🫡

[wraith sphinx]

he doesn't have gaze always active

[jovial juniper]

Don't have to

Do you know why?

Because Precognition lingers

Rip Anchor

You were never good

🫡

[pale prairie]

But they keep popping up just like Smyker builds

[wraith sphinx]

yeah because it seems the most optimal thing to do when ur new to the class

"oh god peril and quelling scary I should figure out how to peril and quell less"

[pale prairie]

Literally just had a meleeker asking for build advice and he quell maxed with warp rider, no ghost. Good luck to him

[wraith sphinx]

crazy how the jump between heresy and damnation and between auric maelstrom and 21+ havoc are such big paradigm shifts

[wraith sphinx]

I mean, kinda workable with just a dream

but much better with warp ghost

[pale prairie]

Yeah I think the biggest thing is actually having roles like “protect the inferno psyker”

[viscid matrix]

better to take both, and be tanky as hell

[pale prairie]

Yeah I mean if he’s having fun. I know there’s a subset of meleekers that just love seeing that SG stack reach 30

[wraith sphinx]

ya ofc I do that

[wraith sphinx]

omg me

[pale prairie]

Lmao king

[viscid matrix]

i wonder, can we use the darktide twitch drops on psykers?

[pale prairie]

? I thought yes

[wraith sphinx]

psyker twitch drops were like 4 months ago

[pale prairie]

It’s the purple stuff

[obsidian kayak]

What gun secondary weapons are best with SC? Was trying it out for the first time yesterday with a recon lasgun