psyker-class

[plucky flax]

I see

That is why

[jovial juniper]

No but yes

[plucky flax]

Time to remove maniac damage on all melee

[wraith sphinx]

damn

I'm keeping it on mine

[plucky flax]

Did uncanny get nerf too

[radiant frigate]

is that before or after delivering the counter

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[waxen ember]

Siblings, I need a solid electro staff build asap - will someone provide me one?

[wind spruce]

what blessings are people running on FGS in havoc

specifically is wrath still a thing

[nocturne dust]

I haven't changed my blessings

[zinc phoenix]

I’m trying out shred. Unstable seems kinda mandatory but I’ve always been more of a riposte guy

[marble crater]

This is what I use at the moment

Though I changed Soulstealer to Quietude since taking the picture, for testing, both work well

[nocturne dust]

I'd dump the new node below warp rider and go for the sweet sweet big boi murder node to the left of warp rider

but other than that, looks identical to my build

well, actually, I also take the node below psykinetics now that I think about it

[marble crater]

We are not dumping warp ghost

[nocturne dust]

It's not that good

[novel yoke]

guys I think im stupid, what does this mean

is it supposed to be heresy or auric??

[marble crater]

It negates the disadvantage of empyric resolve, negates the need for a stamina curio (if you like running does, which I did) and it gets rid of micro managing your peril between fights, yes it's that good

[nocturne dust]

Auric Heresy used to be a thing

It's just auric now

[novel yoke]

oh gotcha

thanks

[nocturne dust]

I'd rather 20% more damage on the enemies that need it most

Those curios are still very sacrifice-able for stamina

The toughness replenish is nice but completely unnecessary, as a true ER user

[storm dock]

do you want like a m1 spam auric build or what

[nocturne dust]

and I don't micro-manage my peril anyway

Imagine being some lunatic who has to manage peril between fights just for a bit more damage at the beginning of the next fight but also gives up a 20% damage for every big boi node

[halcyon obsidian]

Whats ER?

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve

[halcyon obsidian]

ah thanks

[icy breach]

If you complete the highier tier; lower tiers will unlock too

[novel yoke]

ye Im aware of that one, I just havent played auric all that much

was just wondering if there was another mission somewhere, like how auric maelstrom is a thing

[marble crater]

There is only auric now, no auric heresy or auric damnation

and only maelstrom and event missions

[wraith sphinx]

maelstrom missions are only auric now afaik

[wind spruce]

im already getting roasted for dropping warp rider so i cant take unstable on principle

and i always go riposte over shred bc whiffs happen all the time even without skill issues

[summer prairie]

what's your riposte uptime

[wind spruce]

100%

Shred just stresses me out regardless of what's better

But riposte does have huge issues with not triggering for long periods of time

[summer prairie]

I'm actually curious since I haven't ran riposte in ages on FGS

[wind spruce]

I'll turn on Uptime tomorrow and report back

[deft stump]

Or heresy.

[deft stump]

+9?

[nocturne dust]

hm?

[deft stump]

+9 stamina?

[wind spruce]

Yes, always 3 stam curios

[nocturne dust]

Sounds about right

[paper harbor]

[deft stump]

I just +9 stam. Whatever happens, I'm picking someone up.

Unless gunner pack spawns.

MAKE DEFLECTOR WORK ON PICKUPS/RESCUE AGAIN.

[wraith sphinx]

ONE TRUE PATH TO FREEDOM

[paper harbor]

Wall shield it

[loud girder]

Thrax my goat

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/achmed-good-evening-infidels-jeff-dunham-gif-13102529753236691374

[marble crater]

Oh it's the Silence, I kill you guy

[radiant frigate]

precisely

[waxen ember]

Much appreciated!

[fathom adder]

2004 was a vibe

[waxen ember]

Anything really, as long as is electro staff based

[paper harbor]

https://youtu.be/csnlNLRf-ps?si=1MSGBPlJ-AIAxMuh

This one 2004 looks

Is 2025 uploaded

[near estuary]

If I want to do electric based on Psyker, I just unlock my UNLIMITED POWER with Palpatine jazz hands.

I don't care how unviable it is, it's fun lmao

[paper harbor]

That last sentence saved you

[near estuary]

"Would you al mind just not moving for me for a moment? My Zealot would like to have a word with you face to face"

[near estuary]

Saved from what?

[paper harbor]

I was gonna say “is a meme tier and they gonna hate you, I wouldn’t stop you doing it”

[near estuary]

Also, ghonorea spreading great sword psyker is rather enjoyable too

[paper harbor]

Oh yes, my friend is main fgs because he call it anti armor

[radiant frigate]

the what

[near estuary]

Oh, ya, fair. I mean, I have three teenagers, so Im used to constant hate being slung my way, so no worries.

[swift eagle]

I feel like spreading ghonorea to Nurge's forces would buff them haha

[wraith sphinx]

man, smite reallz feels pointless now. tried both gun and staff smite builds, all feel very bad

[near estuary]

Smite with Empowered Blitz capstone, and Sciers Gaze lets you stay at 100% peril without popping for 10 seconds after it ends, letting you keep the 20% rending and 20% damage rolling. With the CD node and aura, you can get your sciers back up before the 10 seconds is over

[summer prairie]

it's supposed to be a tool you use to reposition or assist a revive. Still, you can infinite smite with SG

[near estuary]

I pulled over a mil damage in an Auric Maelstrom last night with it. Not condusive to speed running, but mad fun lol

I run it with an Infernus/Dum Dum recon Las Gun so I can contribute to bossing

[wraith sphinx]

All of this is true but I hate how heavy of a point investment it is

[zealous wing]

its also annoying to play with a smyker... severely so

[summer prairie]

Is it, you don't have to take any of its nodes? What's the investment?

if you don't go SG, you take Empric resolve and that's good anyway

[wraith sphinx]

I should have clarified, that's what I meant specifically

despite the close ranged nature of smite it and its subnodes feel like the worst pick for a psyker that wants to do any amount of meleeing

[near estuary]

Accurate though

If you want a blitz to help you melee, head pop with the node to auto pop once every 12 seconds is the way

[wraith sphinx]

assail weave is still famously strong as ever
BB w/ buffed KF makes it a surprisingly solid choice for meleekering
charged strike gives you a mild dot on heavies only 😭 and enfeeble is enfeeble

[near estuary]

Im a fan of KF with Perilous Combustion

[wraith sphinx]

that's also a classic combo but the KF buff makes it a good pick with low rof guns now too

[near estuary]

Thats a solid point.

[wraith sphinx]

also the best choice for warp rider/warp ghost combo too because you spend virtually zero time quelling ever

[near estuary]

Im not much of a gun psyker myself, so I hadnt considered that

[wraith sphinx]

at least if you build it similar to what I did

[wraith sphinx]

I love it, instant new favourite gunker build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff45845-e1cc-4b1b-9341-33815857c7ca/brainsplosion-gun-psyker-a-new-dawn-csgo-knife-surfer

[near estuary]

I use By Crack of Bone with Warp Ghost myself, great combo

[wraith sphinx]

I liked playing bb gunker pre patch but the point tax made it underwhelming and a bullet hose gun was pretty much a necessity

[near estuary]

I like, Ill give it a shot.

This is my go to Melee psyker build for this patch

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff72b19-0974-4226-b343-80bef3032bdf/psykinetic-blade?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[zealous wing]

ah right today is suipsyker day

[wraith sphinx]

and now I qped with 2 smykers and dont wanna use smite anymore

🫡

[near estuary]

Lmao

[zealous wing]

i love when brunt has my back

[deft stump]

That's telling me to solo 4+ crushers at 300 ping with only my deimos.

50% chance to hit on a delay.

[zealous wing]

dw i would never intentionally let you solo 4 or more crushers <3

they're my kill >:D

[zinc phoenix]

several thousand people died because planes smashed into buildings and the whole thing was live on tb. It was alarming — could they do it again?? — and a lot of people reacted in extreme ways.

I still remember watching the planes run into the towers at the dentist office and everyone just stopping. Which is really really awkward when you’re in the middle of a dental procedure.

[deft stump]

Unless I'm on arby. Wave of crushers and maulers in mortis? Well, kill disablers please.

And gunners.

Do not like.

[zealous wing]

gunners and trappers

[zinc phoenix]

Arby against literally every mob known to man: “ezpz”
Arby when literally a single netter: “help I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!”

[zealous wing]

i am good at the trapper waves

mutie waves not as much but getting there

[deft stump]

Is why Goliath gud pick.

30 sec middle finger.

[zinc phoenix]

I can dodge two dozen trappers while fighting a horde. But then I’ll get netted by a single trapper walking up and netting me in the face with zero surprise or subtlety

[zealous wing]

thats why im there with 3x revive speed curios

[near estuary]

I feel like I cant function with at least 2 revive speeds, but I usually run 3

[zinc phoenix]

Genuinely I’ve failed so many clutches where I’ve ended multiple monstros and a mixed horde but then when I’m walking thru an empty room to get everyone up I get nailed by a netter who walks up and does me in frontally

[zealous wing]

i dont need the CDR for SG, and idk what else is there that would really help besides getting another player up from any situation significantly faster

[zinc phoenix]

Deer in Headlights is2g

[near estuary]

The netter surprise butt sex will never not end a run lol

[zealous wing]

basically my main psyker is a very clutch capable build

i just need to also be clutch capable

[deft stump]

I just get jumpscared from behind usually. Controller spinning around is a little on the slow side.

[zealous wing]

that failed auric clutch made me so sad

stupid plogryn, threw me half a meter too far

[near estuary]

My favorite is when there is so much going on, that I either miss it, or the audio queue for the burster doesnt play

[zinc phoenix]

Also if you are about to get barreled don’t move away from the barrel move into the center. Or jump. If you are in the center or above it you go up and are ok

If you do a running jump you get a rocket boost in whatever direction you were going

[quartz eagle]

fellow psykers, i need a havoc 40 meta build with the new talent stuff

[deft stump]

You can also trade 3 hp for a launch distance.

[zealous wing]

almost miss the event

should become a mael modifier

the clips karien!

the clips!

think about how fast and far you can yeet me into the gloriana void

[royal totem]

Hexis can clutch for me :3

[paper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-seat-eject-prank-gif-13941392

[zealous wing]

DS flak/uny or flakiac?

i think i'll have an unyielding capable gun, so, flakiac? (i dont use this weapon much at all )

[zinc phoenix]

DS is mostly for poke attacks on the big boys. If you already have a gun doing that you’d be better off with a different melee

Try the oscurus if you want something light that can handle most threats

Or knife if you want a very mobile option that is crit oriented

[zealous wing]

this is for a suipsyker so i want multiple options for peril overload without needing a stave

i could do something different for the gun in that case though

[marble crater]

Stroke your sword

[zinc phoenix]

Then you really want a force sword so that you can rub for peril. Riposte for peril is eh

[zealous wing]

yeah but its less fun if im not using dumb things

[royal totem]

Whats a suipsyker

[zinc phoenix]

The peril gain from riposte is low single digit

[zealous wing]

crystaline will, goal being to be able to explode and kill an elite, when the chance arises

also, obscurus is definitely my least favourite force sword

obscurus and illisi are so floaty

[zinc phoenix]

I think that speaks more to lack of experience with them than to the swords themselves

[zealous wing]

i hate the other FGS mark for the same reason

[storm dock]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ffc5266-4cd4-4910-972f-c0017ea5ddff/dogwalk-auric?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[zealous wing]

if it feels like shit to use, and its mid, why bother

[storm dock]

my favorite non havoc build in the game, you hust walk through maps, you can even straight walk towards plasmagunners

[near estuary]

Just to complain for a moment. Lights Out can eat a dick.

That is all

[storm dock]

assail is for trash mobs only, cause against hybrid swarms you get so many soulblaze procs it kills the horde, m1 into literally anything, m2 against bulwarks and duelling for bosses and crushers

[zealous wing]

illisi at least has a good special attack to do serious damage

[marble crater]

Lights Out is great though?

[paper harbor]

Light out great for challenger player but not great for casual

My friend say fuck that light out

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, this opinion is correct

[severe folio]

why tf is the event has to always be with obscure vision...

its as if the plasma shooter arent scary enough

[zinc phoenix]

It’s actually quite good? vOv

[paper harbor]

Plasma gunner suprise butt sex

I think plasma with vision obscure just reskin sniper ventilation purge

But without warning

[zealous wing]

its both btw

[near estuary]

I dont mind pushing difficulty. Im not the best player, but its fun. Lights Out just feels unfair in a lot of instances, so I try to avoid it as much as I can

[zealous wing]

you get snipers and plasma gunners

[deft stump]

And worse.

[near estuary]

Then again, I don't do Havoks, don't have a team. So the hardest thing I do is Auric Mortis Trials

[deft stump]

Gold will save you from a sniper shot. They just delete gold and all toughness.

[paper harbor]

7 plasma suprise no consent attack

[royal totem]

This is 40k. There is no consent

[paper harbor]

Gang ##### by 7 plasmas shots

I always take those minion out when captain is presence

Unless my friend is here want eat them first

With his beloved fgs

[acoustic jacinth]

shriek EK bonanza

having warp battery be so free to take is peak

[near estuary]

SG Smyker 😂
Many many mens staggered

[zealous wing]

them switching the direction you scroll for penances is irritating me

[near estuary]

Fair irritation though

[zealous wing]

seriously i wanna know why they thought it was necessary, it wasnt broken

i can only hope it was a bug, but, its also FS

[near estuary]

These are the same people that introduce new game breaking bugs, and then fuck off for a month.

So your guess is as good as mine

[zealous wing]

the main bug i've seen that actually has made me laugh, is the new mortis penance frame one

complete an auric mortis trial without using medicae or ammo drops

got it on a malice mortis , and i definitely used the ammo crate

[thorn cedar]

oh i didnt know they added mortis penances

[zealous wing]

literally just wanted to see the new map

[thorn cedar]

not a big mortis fan granted

[deft stump]

Any diff.

[shrewd comet]

hey since we have a talent that gives +2 stamina, are y'all still rocking a +3 stamina curio or running all 3 toughness curios?

[deft stump]

Just don't use medicae.

Ammo crate use still works.

[thorn cedar]

Yea I drop the Curio if I have WG

[zealous wing]

2 toughness 1 hp for me

[deft stump]

Tested on malice, heresy and damnation.

[deft stump]

Because it only checks for medicae use.

[near estuary]

I should experiement with this

[zealous wing]

havent used a stam curio for a few weeks before the update

[deft stump]

I tested with a few friends.

[zealous wing]

yeah its mega broken

[thorn cedar]

I don't feel the need to take an HP curio

[deft stump]

Easy penance lul. Even if I got mine the hard way.

[thorn cedar]

32.5% DR from JaD and IF

[zealous wing]

chip dmg still occurs, also busters, hounds, etc

[thorn cedar]

nah i mean the whole point before was having a threshold to survive an extra sniper or burster

[near estuary]

JaD?

[thorn cedar]

you can do that by default now at 150hp with two talents

[thorn cedar]

Just a Dream

[royal totem]

Just a dream

[near estuary]

Ah word

[zealous wing]

that requires TAKING JaD

[thorn cedar]

Oh yeah some of you bozos use staffs lol get fucked losers 😎

[zealous wing]

might take it on a high havoc build but, for auric and below, JaD is unnecessary

[near estuary]

I take IF and OwtW

Is JaD better than OwtW?

[royal totem]

I have the worst curio setup

[thorn cedar]

They're comparable for different roles.

[zealous wing]

at base yes, at high peril, no

[thorn cedar]

But mathematically JaD is strictly better

[summer prairie]

JaD always better

[zealous wing]

in an ideal world, you'd take both

[near estuary]

Hmm...
Ill have to look at my use case then. I like running melee Psyker, so my peril usually sits around 50 to 75 depends on if Im getting weakspot kills or not

[thorn cedar]

It's just a question of whether your Perils jumping up to 97% suddenly can be a problem for you

[zealous wing]

JaD bumps you to critical peril, then OwtW takes over from there until your peril isnt critical anymore

plus, OwtW works with JaD iirc

[deft stump]

Basically, how often do you sit above 60% peril.

[thorn cedar]

JaD 100%

Nah OwtW never catches up

25% DR is two triggers of resist

33% vs two 25% triggers

Not even close

[near estuary]

Thats fair

[thorn cedar]

So OwtW is what you take if casting at critical peril is something that would get you killed.

[near estuary]

IF stun immune is very good

[thorn cedar]

But I'd still recommend learning JaD instead and managing.

[deft stump]

Or take with shriek and heh.

[summer prairie]

maybe for infinite WU SG OwtW is better

[thorn cedar]

And NOT Crystalline Will

[near estuary]

My goal has been to stay in SG as long as possible for the buffs, so I avoided JaD, but Ill give it a go

[thorn cedar]

JaDs wording is a bit fucked.

[zealous wing]

youll still get your 10 seconds of pausing the game, dw

[wraith sphinx]

I don't like JAD with staves

I keep blowinf up 🙁

[near estuary]

Correct me if Im wrong, but the only lingering effect from SG is the damage yes? At least, that's how the wording reads to me

[thorn cedar]

Yea

[zealous wing]

10s infinite casting

[near estuary]

Ya, never felt the need for that node. Just dont use warp 5head

For melee anyways. I use it on my smyker

[deft stump]

If inferno, skill issue. If EK, I understand.

[zealous wing]

whats SG for if not unleashing all 10 assail shards, and cleaving the horde in half, endlessly staggering the crushers, etc etc

[near estuary]

THats fair. I sue it for the damage and crit boosts plus spped

https://tenor.com/view/running-quick-fast-running-fast-sprint-gif-13891299498810479886

[zealous wing]

plus, decent amount of stun immunity is nice

[deft stump]

But I do that without SG...

[wraith sphinx]

Toxic

[deft stump]

Well, Assail bit.

[zealous wing]

oh when SG ends i unleash all the assail

all the bees

[deft stump]

You can do that without it lul.

[near estuary]

I typically run brain burst with my FGS melee build

[zealous wing]

especially lovely if theres several specials/elites i need to specifically target

[deft stump]

Not really, it takes me 50 lmb in a row of inferno to pop.

[zealous wing]

well yeah but, also, warp splitting, and warp rider, so im normally around 50-60 at minimum

[tacit stump]

i hope we get new staffs

[zealous wing]

thats 4 assail before i need to quell or kill and wait for battle med

[burnt frigate]

brain tentacle whip staff

[cosmic cobalt]

just edge

[deft stump]

There is stroking the staff around the place.

[zealous wing]

I DONT STAVE

[cosmic cobalt]

just edge

[zealous wing]

JuSt EdGe

[burnt frigate]

Eww someone who needs to pick up ammo... in the psyker chat?

[deft stump]

I just throw and vent and throw more. XD

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah

aka edge

[deft stump]

Fien, stroking the sword.

[tacit stump]

the big or the small one

[zealous wing]

and lose the warp slice build up?

nah

[thorn cedar]

just tap quell long enough between left clicks and you can dump all ten whenever you want

[zealous wing]

i live for that slice

[deft stump]

All of them.

Especially in lifts.

[tacit stump]

exploded through parrying with ds

[deft stump]

Just vent.

[burnt frigate]

I like to proc crystalline will while hugging elites to vent

[tacit stump]

not possible when you get focused by dh during mortis trials

[acoustic jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-gif-18933675

[zealous wing]

... i got bad news for you bud

it is entirely possible

[deft stump]

I can tank that easily in a corner for 3+ mins semiafk.

If I actually dodge and kite while bsing, it goes longer.

I used to use my psyker to help with MM.

[zealous wing]

i had to drag the DH around one of the large areas of the hourglass just slide quelling and blocking while the actual GOAT of a random vet with me, who was out of ammo, chainsawed her ass to death. took like 6 minutes or so, the other two helped not at all, which, understandable

[tacit stump]

i don't understand though why psyker got weird parry

[zealous wing]

i still dont know how i aggro'd her, i was entirely out of her circle

[deft stump]

I had to do it on vet. Ran around abusing shout and/or healing 'nades lul.

Not sure what randos were doing.

Oh, normal game.

Mortis loves giving me DH aggro.

[rigid frigate]

do yall know what the best blessings are on the voidblast for a soulblaze build? im currently running blazing spirit warp nexus with crit chance and flak but wondering if theres a diff setup that can squeeze out more?

[deft stump]

I even had 2 on me one auric run.

[zealous wing]

[rigid frigate]

lmfao ok sweet im chilling

i kinda figured theyd be best for setting stuff on fire

[zealous wing]

yeah pretty much

[cosmic cobalt]

what with people not accepting psyker in havoc lmao

[zealous wing]

if its below h40 or sometimes even, they want bubble psykers

[cosmic cobalt]

no its 40

i just want to turn my brain off man

[zealous wing]

same shit then

they just never grew out of it

[rigid frigate]

another question then i think i got the first two thirds of the talent tree squared away for my build but kinda wanna sneak in WG if possible since it kinda just seems bis? but i dont have a lot of wiggle room from what i can see other than like dropping VM?

[zealous wing]

do you have anticipation?

[white sky]

Are there any build agnostic must have talents for psyker?

[zealous wing]

warp ghost

warp rider also

[wind wind]

Psyker discrimination... Someone start up social media 🫠😂😂😂💀

[zealous wing]

perfect timing is another

[white sky]

Which diamonds are those in?

[cosmic cobalt]

actually crazy because its so much easier getting into havoc before update

[patent mango]

me walking into h41 and every enemy is a plasma gunner

[austere burrow]

Its cause we psykers are feared across the empirum

[rigid frigate]

i dont in that part im currently running PA (obv) OwtW JaD and EE though on trauma im ambivalent to dropping EE if i need to because the uptime is spotty

[zealous wing]

this one and the one below it

[austere burrow]

You should know they fear our tendency to fall to chaos

[white sky]

Appreciate it

[patent mango]

our psykers are actually crazy stable honestly its been months of combat

[austere burrow]

Nah I felt for tzeentch already

They just didn't realize I'm an heretic yet

[wind wind]

-> exits game -> starts up midieval total war ii instead

[zealous wing]

you could try dropping OwtW, i would not drop EE, the range immunity is a lifesaver, but, if you find its not active enough for you, try being without it, see if anything changes

if you die more often to gunners, youll know why, and if not, you'll be fine

[patent mango]

me telling tzeentch hes lost the game to see them disintegrate

[zealous wing]

also EE works on plasma gunners yes? did we confirm this yet?

i feel like we confirmed it but i am not sure

[rigid frigate]

i did try a couple havocs back to back with and without and i rly only noticed the odd plasma gunner shot getting through when i got caught out but that was about it. though also i might try without OwtW now that u mention it since WG just seems like that kind of beast lmfao

[patent mango]

strat to detect plasma gunners is to get shot by one

[rigid frigate]

also be nice to almost offset the ER toughness hit

[shrewd comet]

dumb question. does EK staff's secondary hit weakspots?

[patent mango]

no

[shrewd comet]

imagine if it could -_- https://i.imgur.com/cN5p8FT.png

[rigid frigate]

i swear if i dont have cover nearby im just the "cooked" dog meme once my dodges run out lmfao

[patent mango]

dodges running out against plasma gunners will traumatize every reject

[deft stump]

Bubble makes life easier. Especially with plasma crusher spam.

[patent mango]

they added plasma gunners every psyker will go bubble so sg usage rate will be 3% and they'll buff it again

[wraith sphinx]

true

well played

[wraith sphinx]

new enemy type idea

crushers with plasma cannons

[rigid frigate]

i rly like SG but i also like keeping my wounds 😭 hearing the plasma gunner sound in my sleep

[patent mango]

heretics will find the first multiplasma in the imperium

[deft stump]

Do you really want 20k hp ranged full cara things that 2 shot you from sniper range?

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/i-do-and-i'm-tired-of-pretending-i-don't-joker-zorothex-yes-i-do-tired-of-pretending-gif-16315148696089003392

[deft stump]

And by that, I mean packs of 5-8 of them at once?

[white sky]

Yes on the caveat they can splash damage eachother to death

[deft stump]

Hah. They didn't even do that for the current ones... not even just chip damage...

[rigid frigate]

i dont even think astartes could handle that... 😨

[white sky]

I know, it pains me

[wraith sphinx]

who needs bucketheads when we have ogryn

[rigid frigate]

lmfao

[patent mango]

if all else fails we do have the single strongest smartest ogryn in the imperium

[rigid frigate]

all im saying is if moebian regiments can do it we gotta see other regiments with machine gunning plasma gunners

[patent mango]

they'd probably explode

unless fatshark forgets that plasma explodes again

[white sky]

Second smartest but yeah he's up there

[wraith sphinx]

true actually ship those plasma gunners to the iron warriors as auxiliaries

corpse god won't stand a chance

[white sky]

Maybe third tbh

[patent mango]

do not let powerscalers near the plasma gunners dear god

[white sky]

The moebian plasma gunners would fuck up marines tbh

They vaguely remind me of like, 8-9e Scion Command Squad plasma spam

[wraith sphinx]

immensely so

[rigid frigate]

ohhh it was just that the moebian 6th managed to find an STC that made unexplodable plasma guns i get it

[wraith sphinx]

ultramarines deploy to tertium
squad of plasma gunners jump them

[patent mango]

just send 1 and its done

1 plasma gunner and thats it

[rigid frigate]

helmetless named ultramarine tho...

gg moebians

[patent mango]

helmetless named plasma gunner walks in

[rigid frigate]

😨

[wraith sphinx]

😨

[patent mango]

😨

[rigid frigate]

primarch tier...

[royal totem]

i just want to kill the nobles from Hab Dreyko

[wraith sphinx]

don't we all

[deft stump]

You mean 3 of them.

[summer timber]

😨

[deft stump]

We have 4, right? Brunt and the 3 personalities?

[summer timber]

yes but brunt is technically a genestealer so

half ogryn

[patent mango]

brunt is made of soon™ after the fact he'll come back soon

[summer timber]

im convinced morrow ate his brain when he went to go pick him up from his ice coma

[deft stump]

Wot.

[summer timber]

this message

[wraith sphinx]

😈

[rigid frigate]

whats he doing with all those genes...

[summer timber]

this is all on the foundation that i also think morrow is a genestealer

[summer timber]

stealing them 👖

[rigid frigate]

😨

[summer timber]

😨

[marble crater]

What does it mean

[wraith sphinx]

+182% critical hit damage

[marble crater]

[wraith sphinx]

it goes up to 250 max

absolutely diabolical

60%ish crit chance + this

I love mortis!!!

I managed to land a crit kill on a chaos spawn and it exploded into a shower of blood

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

[deft stump]

It's already hilarious on vet.

[austere warren]

Yeah right tree got even better this is great

Getting away with high movement speed and free ranged dodges on crits is making plasma gunners an even bigger joke to me

[zealous wing]

considering they sound very very much like the "mysterious cultists", perhaps we may

[royal totem]

Would be refreshing

[copper jay]

Did you find any anti boss build with the new update ?

[rough gale]

How did you achieve this? Can you show build?

[zealous wing]

gunker builds hit harder

[royal totem]

Mortis trials havoc difficulty when 😛 jk jk

[zealous wing]

considering theres 4 havoc difficulties, that would be odd

presume you mean auric havoc though

would just be auric mortis with more modifiers tbh

[royal totem]

That sounds fun :3

[fathom adder]

Havoc Psykanium when

[zealous wing]

yeah theres a mod for adding mortis stuff to psykanium, but idk about havoc modifiers

[white sky]

I cant wait for a proper psykanium update

[upper sun]

you're gonna have to 😭

[white sky]

I dont love modding this game anymore cause it makes me antagonistic but I feel like I need to for the psykanium

[zealous wing]

being able to fight things makes so much more sense than them just standing there

[white sky]

Its like, required to actually test out arby

You cant use half of their talents in their cause no marks

[fossil shuttle]

how do i make a decent psyker build since the tree got reworked

or copy one i dont mind

[zealous wing]

same way you did before but with easier access to the shit you want

[white sky]

Actually on that note, are there any required talents for first psyker diamond?

[fossil shuttle]

im just getting to leveling psyker now so i genuinely dont know shit

[marble crater]

If you are leveling then do assail + something

[white sky]

And pick up more depending on build/comfort?

[zealous wing]

pretty much yeah, depends on build

[white sky]

I like melee so ive got uhhh

[zealous wing]

like, weapons

[white sky]

Warp Expenditure on too

[zealous wing]

quietude for shriek or SG build for example

[white sky]

SG? Sorry, brain doesnt know psyker shorthand yet

[zealous wing]

scrier gaze

[white sky]

Thanks

Nah, bubble, cause I'm building this thing to hard carry Havs rq lol

[zealous wing]

lol

[white sky]

+I like the concept of arena then melee

[zealous wing]

i should make a new bubbleknight tree

[white sky]

Even tho I'll just fire staff most things

[marble crater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vVn7xCpV5M steal this build if you want to melee in a bubble

[zealous wing]

he comin back to my builds

[white sky]

Does it come on gameslantern? I like. Do not like getting info like this off YouTube videos.

[zinc phoenix]

I just don’t care about the psyk or mods tbh. If you want to do solo content it’s helpful for training for that + enabling it at all, otherwise you don’t need it for anything

[zealous wing]

agent is one of ours, if thats what youre worried about

i dare not say agent is trustworthy, but, you can trust the build is stronk

[white sky]

Frankly the scoreboard just makes me toxic

[royal totem]

Hexis doesnt trust siblings

[white sky]

No i just hate watching videos when I could have a picture or words that I'll read faster than will be narrated

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I’ve never seen the point of it

[zinc phoenix]

Agent goes over the build in the first five seconds

[marble crater]

There is nothing narrated, the build is in the first few seconds and the rest is gameplay

[loud girder]

Scoreboard I only use to see if I'm eating too much DMG and performing well that's it

[white sky]

Thank god, okay

[zinc phoenix]

It’s quick and intended that you pause to just look, no listening to an eight hour monologue

[zealous wing]

actually not even a joke

[marble crater]

He doesn't do build guides, he just shows the build and plays

[zealous wing]

the first 8 seconds shows EVERYTHING

[white sky]

Yeah alright, I can do that

[zealous wing]

trust, agent is one of ours, he KNOWS the pain

[white sky]

I hate when its a 10 minute video and they spoonfeed you info every 3

To hit the ad revenue mark

[loud girder]

Agent is cracked maşallah

[marble crater]

@plucky flax is too lazy to make actual build videos that explain every detail

[white sky]

@plucky flax good video layout

[zinc phoenix]

@plucky flax hello there

[marble crater]

[zinc phoenix]

agent is the only person i know of who uses mods to make the game harder

the technicolor hellscape he creates is beyond my comprehension

[sturdy reef]

dont forget the screen pop ups for nets and cleave

[viscid matrix]

Is that popup to let you know trappers spawned?

[sturdy reef]

its like a mobile game

[zealous wing]

agent really makes like a fuckin rythym game i kinda love it

[dense valley]

man tf they done to psyker damage this patch afaik we have a new orgyn dmg node and additional warp rending but the dmg felt like doubled

[viscid matrix]

Keep in mind that it only tracks your own damage properly

[pale matrix]

is it cleave damage or mibility that is dump stat for dueling sword?

[zealous wing]

gOD i missed the reconlas brrr mode

[zealous wing]

mobility

[white sky]

Oh like 2300 more smite kills and thats all the nades done

[dense valley]

wym fam

[white sky]

Is gun a nessecity on this?

[marble crater]

Never played it, it's preferred I know that much

[zealous wing]

if you use a stave it probably wont work out as well as a gun or a stave build

[viscid matrix]

Have you ever seen that screen with someone else as top damage in the last 2 years?

Or always the person using it?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[white sky]

Alright, thanks

[viscid matrix]

I have never seen it, and I highly doubt I’m doing 70% of the total teams damage every time

[zealous wing]

you COULD be unlucky and have really incompetent teammates

you could also be playing psyker

[zinc phoenix]

havoc party finder minigame is such ass

i like the game mode but locking it behind a lobby system is legit the dumbest decision fatshark have ever made

like genuinely 99% of groups do exactly the same thing: take four people relatively close in level, discuss precisely nothing and then start the game

really?

we couldnt have a party finder just do that?

and then let people who genuinely want to tryhard start lobbies for it themselves?

[viscid matrix]

Especially when no one new is going to get a party to start
I’m stuck at 0 cause there is never anyone to do it with in my region(I’m not playing on 250+ ping in havocs)

[white sky]

Tbh I hate the lobby system but I would also hate random queue havocs with the demote system

[zealous wing]

have you tried the LFG channels?

usually people jump at early havocs, easy assist penance progression

[radiant frigate]

hmm today i will make mythic+ complete with the asinine group building that goes along with it

[zinc phoenix]

idk why, its literally identical

[radiant frigate]

GARBAGE choice

[white sky]

Nah, it isn't

[zinc phoenix]

oh yes truly the random generator couldnt enforce "no two people may play the same class"

[wraith sphinx]

nah qp havoc would be objectively better

but yeah the deranking system sucks

[white sky]

Havoc qp would still require some form of actual matchmaking by tiers tbh

[wraith sphinx]

yeah preferably by 10s

[zinc phoenix]

which is trivial and already done by hundreds of other games

[wraith sphinx]

qp for 1-10, 11-20 and so on

[zealous wing]

just have 4 quickplay buttons, unlocked by your clearance level

[white sky]

Id agree except id split 20 into 19-24 and 25-30 tbh

[wraith sphinx]

why

the difference between 20 and 21 is astronomical

[zealous wing]

if anything i'd split 35-40 to its own thing

[white sky]

Below 25 feels so much different than above it, and people with below a 25 CL just play exceptionally different imo

[deft stump]

Big spike to avg player.

[summer prairie]

Can't imagine playing high havoc if I was always forced to pick the first 3 players

[white sky]

I think by 5s is the most logical in general

[sturdy reef]

just stayed in exe stance for like 5 minutes straight with the current maelstrom

[deft stump]

25 is harder than 26.

[wraith sphinx]

havoc 21 is the filter difficulty it doesn't make sens to mix it with lower havocs

[zinc phoenix]

youd still be able to create your own lobby just like youve always been able to for aurics

[white sky]

Me when the first 3 players who apply to the lobby all have the stim border and no CL

[zinc phoenix]

but literally 99% of havoc groups are quickplay with extra waiting

[white sky]

Then split them all into 5s

[wraith sphinx]

but yeah besides the point

it's still quickplay in practice except you're subject to whatever superstitious standards the party host has if you're joining someone else and vice versa

[zinc phoenix]

like i already have all the tryhard titles and just want to play the game

[wraith sphinx]

nope sorry gotta derank yourself if you wanna play!

[white sky]

My superstitions are "if you're under the CL while I'm climbing be within 2"

Every single time I accept someone with a CL lower than the mission by 2 it's just a mess ime

I understand Havoc 28 is the lowest on the board but please play the game mode at all

[zealous wing]

idk trial by fire is a thing, but it does depend if the person wants to learn or not

[dense valley]

I think its working fine, I remember arbitre keep topping the dmg chart on release with the dog bug and then rework orgryn

[white sky]

Ive trial by fired enough people to become superstitious of it

I dont personally apply to lobbies more than 1 above my Clevel either

[dense valley]

Even so 2m4 dmg on an average psyker game is still much higher than last patch isnt it

[plucky flax]

Hi.

[wraith sphinx]

the problem with climbing lower level havocs yourself is that it's a coinflip if anybody joins those at all

[plucky flax]

no u

[white sky]

Yeah

Yeah it is

Looking at you CL 40 True Survivor who goes down first in a 27 and then leaves and makes it a 3 man

[deft stump]

I technically went from lvl 30 to CL 40. Lul.

[white sky]

Congrats, thats not feasible anymore tho due to mm changes

[wraith sphinx]

so it takes like 5-15 minutes to get a team going compared to 2-3 minutes in non-havoc

[deft stump]

I know. I was around for Season 1.

[zealous wing]

i wanna take another crack at H40 with dom and bean, and whoever else, be it sut or six or whoever

[white sky]

Id be CL 37 rn if thats how it worked

[zealous wing]

haven't seen dom in a while tho

[wraith sphinx]

but I also want to stress I'm not exactly fussed about this, I grinded out havoc during 1.0 with a terrible veteran build that made my wrist sore and got the entirety of the 53rd set, since then I just rarely play havoc when I really feel like subjecting myself to it

[deft stump]

You mean, Assignment lvl? That's 33. Got reset and I basically only win 1 game a week, lul.

[white sky]

Clearance Level

[dense valley]

Funny that havoc only got easier cuz player power keep upping every patch lol

[white sky]

Id be Clearance 37 rn instead of 30 if it just uprated you to whatever you completed

[wraith sphinx]

nowadays I'm only really interested in seeing how far I can go with a gunker build which automatically dumps my chances of getting accepted into random lobbies to zero

[dense valley]

I remember orgyn was troll pick in havoc lol

[deft stump]

That's assignment. CL is the thing next to your name.

[wraith sphinx]

not really, havoc has been borderline unplayable since karnak twins got added as boss spawns because pubs do not know how to goddamn fight them

[deft stump]

You can still go from nothing to CL40.

[white sky]

I see

[dense valley]

I think I'm doing just fine like havoc 40 lobby on a normal day are pretty skilled on average

[wraith sphinx]

Try a havoc 21 lobby, you'll instantly get depressed

[zealous wing]

the number of times people go for the range twin first is depressing

[deft stump]

You only do that in the actual twins fight.

[dense valley]

It's filled with auric guys during updates like these days I'm having a hard time grinding back to 40

[deft stump]

Doesn't matter who dies first in Havoc.

[white sky]

I think its because of hearing it for Ronin or whatever his name is people apply it to Walmart brand twins

[zealous wing]

honestly even in the actual twin fight, i'd rather take out rinda first, because she is actually the biggest pain to deal with if i suddenly have to solo one of the twins, and the mauler/rager swarm. rodin, i can dodge, she's constantly in your face

[white sky]

You ever notice when Rodin dies Rinda hits the super aggro mode?

[wraith sphinx]

you should thin out the chaff that spawns with them first

[zealous wing]

they both do

[wraith sphinx]

so you can fight rinda without her skewering you because you can't move

[white sky]

I find it way more noticeable on Rinda tbh

[dense valley]

Man those guys are dead in like 2 orgryn heavy with da pickaxe these days

[sturdy reef]

its more noticeable on rinda because you can break Rodin's AI

[marble crater]

Yes me too

[exotic tulip]

Electrokinetic left click build is way better than the lightning build to me, the chained target doesn't even kill dreg bruisers.

Or is there something I am missing about it

[wraith sphinx]

Meanwhile I get to watch smykers smiting rinda lmao

I fucking love havoc pubs

[zealous wing]

its always fun when their bad habits bite them in the ass

or, stab them in the face

[full coyote]

Hey guys I’m pretty new to the game. Is there a reason to use the inferno staff over void last or lightning?

I got my psyker to 24 and tried heresy but got destroyed so I’m trying to figure out builds

[white sky]

Oh yeah, there's a few reasons

[slender sierra]

If im running the basic soulblaze inferno staff psyker how useful is perilous combustion, wildfire and creeping flames? I keep hearing stuff about max burn stacks and wildfire not really being good but its sometimes good.

[plucky flax]

Its the most damaging staff in hardest contents

[slender sierra]

AOE burn spreads across the entire horde. I'm pretty sure its Psykers best stave

[long saddle]

staves are p underwhelming when you're leveling up

since they're mid without complete stats

[full coyote]

Ok. I got the staff to 19 mastery but I see more people using lightning staves

[long saddle]

they're prob the two most popular

[white sky]

Inferno staff will melt basically everything infront of you except for bosses when you're levelled with it

[plucky flax]

Lightning staff is op in non havoc contents

[long saddle]

and crushers

[full coyote]

I’m just trying to figure stuff out cause I’m still doing pretty bad in heresy missions and exp gain has slowed down on malice

[white sky]

Yeah ig and crushers now

[deft stump]

I can't dodge Rodin because of crazy ping. Rinda, I can just block.

[plucky flax]

You are pro karien

[marble crater]

Karien carried me in Sedition

[thorn cedar]

i dont believe you

[upper sun]

its true i was there

[white sky]

So like, whats the trick to cliffhanger and is it "have a 4 stack that feeds it to you"

[plucky flax]

You dare doubt karien??

[thorn cedar]

No I doubt Sut could ever beat Sedition even with a carry

[deft stump]

Just need Syllo and Chaos at their best.

[lone ravine]

It’s pretty easy to get on finale of upload false info to cogitator array mission

Forgot what the maps called

[royal totem]

Inferno can hit all enemies in its range so v strong in high difficulty. The lmb can quickly stagger most mobs slso. But in low difficuty can be a bit mediocre cuz not enough mob density/enemies low health anyways

[deft stump]

As in, Trauma Syllo and Bubble Knight Chaos.

[royal totem]

Vigil station

[lone ravine]

yea that

once the bridge to the middle opens you can just get a horde on there and push em off

[zinc phoenix]

So rotted crushers

Tricky

Esp on a stim mission

[white sky]

You talking about the one where you run up stairs, do 3 skulls, and then gather for the one skull?

Thanks, I'll give that a try

I was attempting it on the beginning of that one mission where its a big bridge and you have the little side bridge

Its the last achievement I need

And the last OG psyker penance I need

The OG penances for every class really are something else lol

[royal totem]

I randomly got it on vigil station one day

[white sky]

I think my issue is I'm trying to force it

And its irritating me when it isnt working

[royal totem]

Fair. I got it with trauma staff

[lone ravine]

If your team is nice and you tell them you’re going for it they’ll probably help you out

[white sky]

I find people below auric do not interact with the chatbox tbqh

[lone ravine]

fair

[white sky]

I never thought about that tbh

I could just use the staff

Instead of forcing Shriek+Force Sword Pushes

[lone ravine]

I got it using smite

since it flings them in the direction you look

When you let go

[white sky]

Thats logical tbh

I used to hate trauma so I never used it

And I only just started smite for the penance on it

Maybe ill get it within those 2.5k kills

[lone ravine]

I mained trauma staring out psyker since I got a god roll real early on it

[white sky]

It felt clunky originally

Using it on stairs

[lone ravine]

Yea I got used to it, then I stopped playing psyker

[white sky]

I liked the one that had cleave if you headshot

[lone ravine]

And I have no clue how to use it anymore

[white sky]

Shatter the ankles of the crusher running at you

Tbag and laugh

[swift stag]

Most prefer Inferno but EK is my fav. its just preference really.

[white sky]

Which staff is EK? Lightning?

I hate the changed staff names why did they do that

Thank you

[lone ravine]

My only assumption is lining up with actual in universe names?

[swift stag]

Yeah the one with the small chain attack RMB

[lone ravine]

idfk

[deft stump]

If you have MMT, you can try the assassination at the train station, two possible spots, near the start or before the drop down to the last area before the lift to the boss room. That one needs 2 players min. Player wanting the penance must be able to solo specials for a little while the other drops down and triggers the horde and pulls aggro before dying so they all funnel upstairs through the train roof. Smite flick and you will basically get it.

[white sky]

Oh I can solo specials, im not worried about that bit

Im ngl the bit thats been ruining it for me are bots or other players

But yeah, I gotcha, I've compiled enough here to try dufferent things, thank you.

[deft stump]

Why high enough diff and let the bots die, then suicide rush to force the agggro upstairs.

I know Heresy will usually work. Damnation if you find people who can duo that.

[white sky]

Alright yeah, I'll experiment during my QPs

I have to get the psyker out of malice still

Wanted to change the name, dont like mindwiping characters

[deft stump]

Problem is, requires people willing to hang themselves when they go down, since you want the stuff to funnel to the psyker upstairs.

[white sky]

Alright, thank you

This chat will be the first place to know when I get it

Its iirc the only thing keeping me from the T3 helmet too

[deft stump]

Or just ask someone to run it with you.

I'm asking if you have MMT cos I don't mod.

[white sky]

I play vanilla cause modding the game makes me antagonistic

I also play worse cause I care more about numbers

[wraith sphinx]

plenty of cool mods out there that aren't scoreboard though

[deft stump]

I don't mod cos lazy. I just panic anyway... or not... which explains why I have been playing worse.

[white sky]

Once I start the scoreboard follows with

I know how this goes, ik how I am.

[wraith sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-robert-downey-jr-shrug-the-rot-the-rot-consumes-gif-4934048971431677874

[white sky]

Yup

[wraith sphinx]

I tried it once, it objectively made my experience shittier, never used it again

[white sky]

I dont want a scoreboard, I dont want to care about someones true level

I dont want to get toxic cause ik exactly who barreled me

Its just excess stuff that sits on my brain that puts more obstacles between me and killing the enemies in a way that benefits the team

[deft stump]

I know the feel.

[wraith sphinx]

yeah I get that

[white sky]

Ill care less about CC or actually beneficial actions in favor of farming more damage and kills

[wraith sphinx]

I use true level and deathfeed primarily out of curiosity though

[pale prairie]

What’s the benefit of death feed?

[white sky]

When I was using true level i hated everyone at 1k playing the game and having fun instead of doing well and I hated everyone at 30 cause it meant they had no experience. True level is one of the reasons I deleted all of my characters for a fresh start.

[deft stump]

Just to see what kills which player, I think.

[white sky]

Aye

[pale prairie]

Might actually be useful. Would like to know if it was actually captain shield bug or something else

[deft stump]

Uh, but here's a thing... 1k lvl players can be shitters...

And that lvl 4 can somehow be carrying.

[pale prairie]

Yeah true level is pointless to me other than (wow you should know better)

[kind jay]

it me im the 1k shitter!

[pale prairie]

Everyone looks like a shitter compared to ping hardened veteran Karien

[white sky]

Exactly, and that's another thought between me and killing the enemies trying to kill us, which makes it an obstacle

[deft stump]

Wot. I'm still bad at the game. You know. No skill, just panic and lag gamble.

[pale prairie]

Yeah I mostly have scoreboard for myself. I like build crafting and I need to see if changes to my tree I make affect game outcomes

[crude flare]

This is the way

[pale prairie]

I don’t know I only have witness statements of you being good

[white sky]

Yeah nah scoreboard is the worst offender for me cause I do green circle hunt

Not having it makes me directly more beneficial to have on a team

[pale prairie]

Um ackshually it’s yellow numbers

[crude flare]

What does the scoreboard mod even look like?

[white sky]

Lots of numbers

[pale prairie]

It’s good to know yourself

[white sky]

Aye

[pale prairie]

That’s the worst offender cause I have too many things turned on lmao

[crude flare]

O

[deft stump]

Because I get forced to clutch with a questionable success rate. They only remember the successes.

[long wharf]

what makes the vraks IAG the meta choice?

it has lowest damage

[sturdy reef]

highest dps

[pastel turtle]

dps and ammo count

you get more damage back per box/survivalist procs iirc

[zealous wing]

literally more dmg than reconlas

[long wharf]

alright

[zealous wing]

i miss reconlas but vraks is undeniably better

harder to aim though

[pastel turtle]

with burn stacks and scryers/dd buffs I think the recon lasgun is outperforming the iag

I could be wrong tho

[zealous wing]

vraks killed the BoN far faster in my testing

however reconlas is STILL. a great gun

[white sky]

I imagine as long as you're using something with a good rof it'll work out

Iirc you want rof to apply bb? No?

[zealous wing]

irrelevant tbh

its 1 kf per 12s

[white sky]

So you could use whatever

[zealous wing]

ye

[white sky]

Why are the RoF guns preferred then? Cause iirc Vraks is also the fast IAG

[zealous wing]

not at pc but, crit go brr, monster melt

[white sky]

Ty

[pale prairie]

Don’t forget the crits and EE

[pale prairie]

Recently? Cause….

Also it’s always gonna out damage if you have the back shot damage blessing and only hit the weakspot

[zealous wing]

not recent, cooking rn can test l8r

[fathom adder]

All else being equal, higher ROF still means you proc more on-hit and on-crit effects

[white sky]

Yeah, reasonable

Psyker pairs wrll with crit procs

Therefore you want to proc them more often

Therefore firing faster benefits

[zealous wing]

if rlas is back to meta id be happy ngl

but need to run tests various monsters

[deft stump]

Recon? Chaos ran it.

[marble crater]

Back to meta? It has been for months

[pale prairie]

Hexis just like the sound and feel of rumbling. Even though the short clip killed his last clutch

[zealous wing]

it did NOT

[sinful peak]

vraks is absolutely more dps

[zealous wing]

besides i was on baby psyker 3, didnt have the pleasure of perfekt weaponry

[marble crater]

The difference one week can make

[austere burrow]

One week on darktide is a lot

You got exposed to nurgle as a pysker that's so much mental man

[pale prairie]

Now imagine one week but only Darktide no sleeping

24 hours x 7

[austere burrow]

Oh gosh u would be executed by the emperor

[pale prairie]

I think hexis is fine

Maybe

[marble crater]

eh

[austere burrow]

He isnt

U need to sleep at max every 48h

[marble crater]

He is already flaming people for Smite

[austere burrow]

After a week you hallucinate

[marble crater]

Seer psyker irl

[zealous wing]

the symptoms dont go away either

[strong gulch]

I just realized that my RMB EK had cara instead of flak. 😭

Shotgunners are gonna feel less tanky now. lmao

[zealous wing]

🙃

[austere burrow]

Oh shit

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-bang-theory-jim-parsons-sheldon-cooper-what-a-noob-noob-gif-5408039

[austere burrow]

I'm tanky as hell

[zealous wing]

wasnt dt but i pulled 2 weeks of basically no sleep at all, most days had no sleep between. still have effects

[austere burrow]

I just don't get hit so I don't lose hp so I'm a tank

[sinful peak]

vraks vs las in the same amount of time

[zealous wing]

this was years ago

[marble crater]

I will try Flak/Elite instead of Flak/Maniac on EK later, the scab HP increase annoys me

[austere burrow]

Honestly take a nap man

I already felt to tzeentch but if you keep not sleeping Ur gonna fall for slaneesh

[zealous wing]

my m loner psyker wears purple leather skintight pants. i think im a goner

[weary idol]

vraks what now vs las what now?

[pale prairie]

Damn imagine being not scared of carapace

[strong gulch]

I got overheaded today. Don't worry.

WAIT new psyker dropped

[austere burrow]

Damn

[bright pebble]

I gotta get around to redoing my psyker builds lol, does the skill tree revamp change the pathing much or not really

[zealous wing]

yes

easier

[bright pebble]

Oh awesome

[crude flare]

Easier and better

[bright pebble]

This is going to sound really funny, but in redoing my builds, noticing that I’m sticking to one side more than usual and it genuinely feels offputting lmao

I’m too used to having to pick and choose a bit haha

[pale prairie]

Consolidation

[bright pebble]

Take a bit from the left, reach over to the right, zig zag back to the left

I will say, having those 2 perks merged into one for getting toughness on peril quelling and gaining is VERY nice

Always bugged me they were 2 separate ones

[pale prairie]

It’s good but there’s a lot of very good on the tree now

[fathom adder]

Scrier winning so much it's gonna be tired of winning all the time

[bright pebble]

Is venting shriek still worth taking for a soulfire build

[strong gulch]

Still here. Just one loadout now.

[bright pebble]

Also really silly question but I’ve always been curious, does the inferno staff count as soulfire

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Yes

[bright pebble]

Oh shit

[strong gulch]

Had a new psyker idea.

Overheadedtoday

[marble crater]

I also had an idea

Stop making new psykers

[strong gulch]

but I just altered the better loadouts mod for more characters

[marble crater]

I think you need a Warhammer mod for the Sims

[zealous wing]

hmmmm

pasta soon also. who hungry?

[pale prairie]

Corn and peas huh?

Swedish meatballs check though

And beans and onions is this a gazpacho?

[zealous wing]

and beans, mushrooms, garlic, onion, tomato paste, various spices

no idea whats its called we just make it

[kind jay]

i will eat all of that

[pine shore]

https://i.vgy.me/EkOqow.jpg
https://i.vgy.me/VcYRha.jpg

how's this surge staff build looking

[pale prairie]

Why no souldrinker?

And smite instead of BB KF?
It’s not optimized but if you’re having fun that’s enough

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[pine shore]

why souldrinker?

[upper sun]

looks good over all but id change like 2 things sec ill post tree

[pale prairie]

Cause you have soulblaze and crit benefits EK staff. Then again you don’t have EE so not getting as much from it. (Also free toughness) enemies that die WITH soulblaze on them proc souldrinker

[pine shore]

It benefits me

but is 5% really that much

[kind jay]

and maybe swap one with warp to just a dream?

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ffcec47-14bf-451a-a1d6-2c44f814f927

[upper sun]

the choice between one with warp/just a dream/anticipation is best left to your own prefrences imo

[pale prairie]

5% crit that’s always up and proccing mettle, perfect timing (EE if you had it) and toughness regen on top? I mean I think it’s worth it but if you’re having fun then do you

[pine shore]

Fuck fun

I want a build

[pine shore]

no WS generation?

[upper sun]

it generates based on kills thats plenty enough

and surge its very quick at picking up elite kills

[pine shore]

I never seem to have enough

[upper sun]

run ahead and kill stuff before your team can

[pine shore]

Sometimes I just don't kill 6 elites it 8-10 seconds

Also I don't know why would I want warp ghost in a build that actively uses peril

[white sky]

Whispering like the green goblin mask

[pine shore]

I always have high peril and have no troubles generating it unlike some gun builds

[upper sun]

passive quell doesnt do much

and you're going to be shrieking very often

[pine shore]

yes

So why would I want to decrease my passive quelling when I already have enough peril

I am always generating it

It's just uneccesary

also, I think malefic momentum is better then just +5% crit sometimes

Malefic momentum is +25% melee damage

That's a lot

[white sky]

Depends on the melee tbf

[pine shore]

I'm gonna try with KF, see if I have problems with hordes

because I used smite to kill hordes while they burn with shriek

Maybe it was not that nececcary

[upper sun]

if you have illisi malefic is pretty much a straight buff

[pine shore]

I use ds or illisi

For illisi

what 2nd perk do you use

flak + ?

[strong gulch]

flakiac

flak + maniac

[pine shore]

I thought about that

but then I thought, what do I need maniac for?

[strong gulch]

mutants and specials in your face if you can't range them

[pine shore]

I have surge

[strong gulch]

Illisi is bad against cara

[pine shore]

And I don't really want to fight ragers in melee with illisi

[pine shore]

tell that to my 120% rending

[strong gulch]

you do you

that's the meta combo

[pine shore]

so I was think either +elite damage or +cara

[strong gulch]

no not cara

fighting cara with illisi is lol

[pine shore]

120% rending

damn, there really is nothing else except maniac to put on it

Unless I plan on kiting DH forever with block efficiency

[upper sun]

even with uncanny cara illisi still wont do great

im pretty sure a grey ds4 would do better

actually lemme check

[pine shore]

I think not a grey one

but it will do better for sure

How does just a dream work? Is it a straight up +25% DR?

Or is it just health damage?

[kind jay]

25 to both tough and health

[verbal thistle]

There are no just health Dr

So when it doesn't specify toughess it's total dr

[pale matrix]

What blessings should I put on my Vraks IAG?

[pale matrix]

What perks/blessings did you put on the vraks?

[verbal thistle]

Dumdum/death spitter flak/maniac/unyielding(if you want more boss dps)

[pale matrix]

Thx!

[zealous wing]

update to this?

[upper sun]

sec

dude my psyker inventory is such a mess

my god

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

pretty much the same

but i cheated a bit for illisi by adding executor

[marble crater]

This is so sad

[upper sun]

its grey and i have no talents

[marble crater]

We already knew you have no talents

[wraith sphinx]

no that's me

I'm griefing so hard in maels rn

[strong gulch]

Mercantile carnival "clear the enemies" part of the end event is so much shorter. Was that in the patch notes?

[pale prairie]

Praise the emperor if that’s the case

Always felt long

[strong gulch]

That event is long af.

But the run around and find the 3 hiding goobers part feels so short now.

[plucky flax]

Remove the event.

Or make it more than just clearing waves of enemies.

[strong gulch]

IDK if that part is actually shorter or if enemies stick closer to players now.

[marble crater]

How many times did you do it? Maybe you were just lucky

[zealous wing]

or people are getting better about taking them out

[marble crater]

Good joke

[strong gulch]

2 times back to back

[zealous wing]

were they keeping the gate closed?

[strong gulch]

I was keeping one closed. One game were more spread out and other we were tigher together. Same thing happened.

Everything was your run of the mill mercantile cartival map except that part of the end event/

[marble crater]

There is more than one gate?

[young cliff]

has anybody tried using a rending strike VB staff for a build?

[strong gulch]

ye

[zealous wing]

theres 2

[strong gulch]

no one ever goes to the other side in my games

[marble crater]

lies

[young cliff]

i did it twice, so far no one else does

[zealous wing]

the other one isnt really necessary to close, but the one by the medicae is nice to have a fallback/safe/healing area where the ammo/med crates go

[marble crater]

What other side? The arena only has a small section where you can actually walk. When you enter you can walk to the med station, up the stairs afterwards and stay in front of the gate, the rest of the area has invisible walls, I'm pretty sure. After the bar fills up a small section in the middle opens up as well though

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax You try 25 DD stacks after the update?

[plucky flax]

Nein I still don't feel like there's enough blue men.

For auric it's easy

But for havoc with rotten armour it's sus.

Just mark multiple blue guys ffs.

[strong gulch]

On the bottom floor area. There is a gate next to med station and another opposite of it (still in that lower section).

[strong gulch]

Oooh I can see that.

[young cliff]

@plucky flax have you used voidblast staff? want to make something for it, including with Rending shockwaves but idk what would it need

[marble crater]

I have never been anywhere else in that area

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's really good with creeping flames.

The new souldrinker makes it so you get 5% crit chance for free.

And kf buff is just more free pc proc.

[zealous wing]

( the food was fucking delicious btw)

[plucky flax]

I have not played rending shockwave. I guess I could do that if there's a burga creeping flames guy already on team.

Bubble rend trauma or something.

[marble crater]

Corpse starch

[plucky flax]

Syllo did play rend trauma with creeping flames when I was on bubble knight.

[young cliff]

im trying to make a build for that kind of thing, if you do something like that would let me know right?

[plucky flax]

But if that was me I'd rather just play blaze trauma.

[zealous wing]

[marble crater]

Your teammates are alive down there...

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-not-just-the-men-but-the-women-and-children-too-not-just-the-men-women-and-children-too-gif-17266839

[pale prairie]

Oh no they died a while ago

[plucky flax]

I did make a build but I have not actually have a chance to play it yet.

[fathom adder]

https://youtu.be/F24aqABkifQ