#psyker-class

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willow hazel
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ghost doesn't seem at it's best with assail

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unless + vent

zealous wing
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i throw three for trappers running past/through a horde im clearing, it guarentees they die, but it might need to go up to 4, unsure

wind spruce
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Omg assail doesn't rely on passive quelling lol

thorn cedar
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hi objekts

zealous wing
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i did rely on it a bit, for quick hall crossing or bridges etc, now i have to manually quell to 60 then hold it there for general travel until combat

steel flame
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I can do more testing, I might well be able to drop it, but it's not hurting it

raven mountain
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My two basic assail setups don't rely on passive quelling much. Assail+Shriek where I weave them in opportunistically or dump a few to shriek. The other is assail+scrier's, and you're mostly just spamming them during the warp unbound timer.

wind spruce
zealous wing
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yeah quelling isnt hard just, new habits

wind spruce
steel flame
zealous wing
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... why?

steel flame
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Ctrl is my slide

zealous wing
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oh

zinc phoenix
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You don’t have to do those shenanigans 😂

pale prairie
zealous wing
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yeah i forgot default sprint is unintuitive

steel flame
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I was also quell canceling at the same time

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Finger twister that was

zealous wing
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i have sprint on a mouse side key derp

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do on every game with a sprint function

steel flame
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I can't even imagine unlearning shift/Ctrl for that

zealous wing
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jump is left alt

wind spruce
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I have sprint on ctrl, dodge on shift and slide on spacebar

steel flame
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Thos are always my quick melee/special

wind spruce
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Because you never have to dodge and sprint at the same time

steel flame
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The side buttons

wind spruce
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But you need to be able to slide at all times

zealous wing
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i have special on button 7, sprint on button 4, its not bad

wind spruce
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Has to have a dedicated finger

zealous wing
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(im one of the weirdos with 12 side buttons)

wind spruce
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Me too

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Razer naga

zealous wing
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YO

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mouse buddies

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how long have you had yours?

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curious about lifetime expectancy

wind spruce
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Idk atleast 2 years or so maybe more

zealous wing
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sweet

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almost a year i think for mine

wind spruce
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I used to have the older version

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But it died

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I don't really take good care of my shit though

zealous wing
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f

zealous wing
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i think the funniest thing about this mouse, is you can configure 30 hotkeys with it

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damn near a whole 2nd keyboard

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like they made the meme real

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(someone else mightve done it first idk)

patent mango
wind spruce
wind spruce
wind spruce
pale prairie
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and I have played since warhammer 3

zealous wing
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i made one of the hotkeys open a specific note document for all the hotkeys

pale prairie
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not doing the phone stuff though

wind spruce
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ive been playing ultra modded TWW3 because vanilla is way too easy compared to TWW2

wind spruce
pale prairie
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Total war is a phone game now too

wind spruce
wind spruce
zealous wing
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k i actually just remembered to switch ES to LI,

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its nearing 5am so im probably gonna suffer first game tomorrow, we'll see KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
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i doubt youll notice not having ES

zealous wing
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i ... am very particular. even warp splitting on melee throws me off a bit since it doesnt "feel right",

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getting used to it though

wind spruce
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the tism is strong with this one 😉

zealous wing
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😅

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good luck with the bonk build o7

wind spruce
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cheers mate!

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enjoy your sleep

steel flame
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Ugh work

willow hazel
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Buffed KF seems a really good though

willow hazel
wind spruce
thorn cedar
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aktually its my shard doing the attacking not me

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i am not responsible for damages caused by the warp

wind spruce
cedar patio
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Does channeled force synergize at all with the infernus staff?

wind spruce
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do we reckon the new bolt pizzy is just worse for psyker?

thorn cedar
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we dont really need CC from our gun slot

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standard bistol does plenty

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still rather have laspee anyway

raven mountain
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Maybe, but I appreciate the big aoe stagger. With DD, you probably still hit all the important breakpoints for sniping of specials that you had before. With an assail+bistol build, I appreciate it just staggering and giving time for the assail to do its work, along with lazy dog saves.

Standard bistol mostly better though.

runic juniper
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Does the aoe apply bleed with puncture?

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assail applying bleed as you swap to bistol is already crazy enough but that would help stack

raven mountain
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It doesn't seem to apply with the aoe, I'm mostly sure. But it works nicely with the +20% against staggered enemies.

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I do love being able to apply bleed with assail (and to finish off the occasional target), but it's ultimately a gimmick. 🙁

fringe tangle
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Devs should of connected these pieces so we can skip the stat mods if we want to.

I could of saved a point if I didn't have to take the 5% toughness modifier on the left there.

royal totem
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i guiltily say i really like shriek inferno staff build

prisma niche
royal totem
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idk it's just inferno staff with the shriek skill instead of shield

steel flame
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Ah, home at last, time for more unga bunga fire sword psyker

prisma niche
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I need to re-build my Maximum fire psyker build

runic juniper
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Crystalline will is still a meme with the buff though and wasting a talent point on that as a deadend is indeed a choice you can make

white river
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one of the choices of all time

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can someone explain how warp ghost works

raven mountain
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Honestly CW can be super nutty if you get good at picking off an elite with it

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It's a full 100% peril reduction

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Got like 7 in a row and felt like a god.

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But the better the teams are, the harder it is to ensure that you get one.

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I just haven't hard much luck with it outside of voidblast, where you can control the horde better around you.

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Warp Ghost = more stamina and toughness at the cost of basically no passive quell recovery. Like if you stop using peril, it counts down, but with warp ghost, it counts down real slow.

white river
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ah so I throw it on new scriers gaze with 100% uptime build

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gotcha

runic juniper
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I mean for 2 stamina and toughness replenishment it sounds kinda ehh

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I'd take it if it was hard to keep high peril, but scriers

raven mountain
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Isn't 25% replenishment just like 25% more toughness gained?

runic juniper
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I hope, I don't recognize the wording being used in other talents

raven mountain
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replenish is used on almost every toughness talent.

prisma niche
runic juniper
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ok yeah nvm, decent toughness talent, but psyker has a lot of those

raven mountain
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Also, GW is pretty usable on any scrier's and any staff build.

runic juniper
raven mountain
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You mostly always manual quell when spamming staves.

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And you don't passively quell while scrier's is up anyhow.

prisma niche
raven mountain
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Ghost Warp

runic juniper
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ghosts warpshop

raven mountain
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Warp Unbound constant uptime has been a thing for a while now.

runic juniper
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you mean warp ghost lol

zinc phoenix
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Warp ghost is great, you get good stuff and all you give up is passive quell which you’ll never use anyway

raven mountain
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Sure, haven't looked at its name

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But yeah, WG is mostly just a defensive talent that only negatively affects builds like non-scrier's Assail+Gun where you are swapping constantly and letting peril calm itself down

zinc phoenix
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No it’s good in those too

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Because you want high peril for all your damage traits

raven mountain
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Sure, if you plan on manually quelling to always use assail

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instead of swapping to assail and using it to manage peril

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You still have high peril, because it's a psyker build.

zinc phoenix
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Why would you not want a bunch of toughness regen and stam for nil cost 🤷‍♀️

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It also pairs nice with a lot of the other new traits in the tree

prisma niche
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Love how high peril is meant to be a risk-reward system but actually blowing up is still so hand-holdy

raven mountain
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Well, it's not nil cost. It's a talent point and forces you to manually quell.

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In a build where you previously never manually quelled.

zinc phoenix
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Quell taps is pretty standard

raven mountain
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Most every build will be able to use it nicely

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but that's one of the few where it's less free.

runic juniper
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Assail basically the only thing left that you get the quell cancel to fire faster too

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and you only need a tiny bit of missing peril to throw em

steel flame
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Trauma still

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Not as much

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But can still speed up charge

runic juniper
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We should just go back to sprint canceling overload, true psykers just hold W and sprint instead of blowing up

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It's not like unbound scriers is much different

prisma niche
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What makes soulfire different to regular fire?

plucky flax
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A different damage instance

runic juniper
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also counts as warp damage and talents that proc off soulflame don't proc off fire

prisma niche
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Mmm. First game back, two different people shoot poxbursters
One knocks a teammate, the other throws me off a ledge

runic juniper
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You should see the average player when the game is on sale, on a weekend

royal totem
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nice

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i want to shoot more poxbursters

mellow fox
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what ranged wea[on does the most daamge on psy

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taking crits into account

wind spruce
royal totem
proper osprey
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Why did they up the health on scab bruiser

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My tac axe isn’t hitting a bp

teal needle
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Melee psyker is bonkers now

summer prairie
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with perfect timing and +10% melee?

proper osprey
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Tac axe with moblity dump , flak unarmored, brutal momentum headtaker

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It’s not hitting

summer prairie
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time to trash it

proper osprey
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Naw

mellow fox
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im using revolver rn

royal totem
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Its probably something like db shotgun. But its not a perfect weapon.due to spread and somewhat short range. Somebody else can confirm though

proper osprey
patent jacinth
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Dbarrel can snipe

mellow fox
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im using the smite for off brand loyal protector

patent jacinth
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Ewwww

mellow fox
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(extra damage dealt tot eh taunted enemies

patent jacinth
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Smite

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Icky

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Nasty

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Gross

mellow fox
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my characters name is palpatine

royal totem
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Ive never had great success sniping with DB but may be a personal thing

mellow fox
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how about for special sniping

royal totem
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Eh. Long as youre using smite correctly shrugs.

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Im a big fan of revolver for sniping but thats just me

mellow fox
mellow fox
royal totem
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Good good. Remembering to let go sometimes i hope lmao

mellow fox
royal totem
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Not sure. Lol. Im not as good at game as most others here

patent jacinth
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My hexes and psychic attacks against smite users haven't succeeded

mellow fox
royal totem
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I mean...sometimes i down on damnation

mellow fox
royal totem
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Its a real embarrassment i know

mellow fox
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idk if thats possible

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im ONLY using psy rn because i found out how to add more words withouta space

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for emporer palpatin

royal totem
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Lmao.

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Im just an inferno or trauma staff psyker

patent jacinth
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I play trauma maybe once a month to remind myself it sucks

mellow fox
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im using my zeal weapons dueling sword and revolver

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and chaxe(once i find it)

royal totem
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I really like trauma

mellow fox
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chaxe maybe be ass but i still love it(ass on psy without even using it

patent jacinth
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Trauma is so eepy

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Its busted

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But eepy

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If i want to play a staff its right tree and voidstrike

mellow fox
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i miss staggering fleshy clankers(crushers)

royal totem
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Im using combat blade for melee

mellow fox
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idk

patent jacinth
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Knife voidstrike is my build for it

mellow fox
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i only play og and zeal

patent jacinth
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Crack speed for repositioning and singletarget

mellow fox
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what trinkets do yall use for psy

royal totem
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Combat blade is amazing on zealot

patent jacinth
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Weaving knife lunges between every cast to get a better position for the cleave

mellow fox
patent jacinth
royal totem
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3 wound curios

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Martyrdom psyker

proper osprey
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@patent jacinth did you do your testing with perfect timing and +10% melee?

patent jacinth
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Idk

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Probably

royal totem
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...this is a joke btw

patent jacinth
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I didn't really do testing

proper osprey
patent jacinth
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I just popped into psyk and checked to see if I could with my 30 second build

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If you find a way to hit the one tap without ability or egregious damage maxing tell me

mellow fox
patent jacinth
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Just path

runic juniper
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1hp smyker vs barrel

wind spruce
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@proper osprey whats your preffered taxe mark on psyker

patent jacinth
wind spruce
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sweet

proper osprey
proper osprey
cursive thorn
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@proper osprey is ur fgs voidblast scrier build updated

proper osprey
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There it is

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It’s as powerful as ever

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It’s ridiculous

cursive thorn
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oh ur in chat talking about it rn good timing xdd

proper osprey
wind spruce
cursive thorn
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is this new?

patent jacinth
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Yes

proper osprey
wind spruce
wind spruce
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because you will be proccing non stop EE

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is my reason to drop it on gunker-like builds

proper osprey
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Can you give a example?

cursive thorn
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this seems insane, too bad its attached to smite

patent jacinth
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It isn't

proper osprey
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I don’t know if I wanna grab stun immunity or just a dream

patent jacinth
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It does like

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80 damage

proper osprey
patent jacinth
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I grab all 5 nodes in that section

proper osprey
tiny cove
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I severely underestimated how much damage these FGS stabs would do to bosses

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each one is like, a quarter + of the health bar

prisma niche
summer prairie
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maybe if it received damage buffs but it's currently not buffed by anything

ripe obsidian
prisma niche
proper osprey
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Hmmm

wind spruce
# proper osprey Can you give a example?

if im getting enough assail kills that soulstealer will actually make a significant difference in my survival that means im shooting them at horde enemies, a rager pack, or rushing shooter/gunner packs.

but those arent the moments that kill me. if im dying on such a build its usually because of armour, monstrosities or chaos from specials.

proper osprey
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Uhhh I’m ngl I’m not talking a ton of health damage like at all

wind spruce
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you're also going to be generally more survivable in those moments where assail is killing enemies due to it proccing EE like crazy

tiny cove
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I can't tell how much quietude is giving me on melee psyker

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I'm pretty sure its a lot

proper osprey
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I believe stun immunity might be worth

tiny cove
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but I'm not certain

prisma niche
wind spruce
proper osprey
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It works with by crack of bone

tiny cove
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Can't decide if I like assail or BB with KF more

summer prairie
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how often do you reach critical peril with that build, just when SG ends? Also when spamming assail but do you need the immunity then

proper osprey
summer prairie
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at >97%

tiny cove
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between assail, scrier, fgs, blocking with kinetic, and taking damage

proper osprey
tiny cove
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there is many way you boost your peril up

proper osprey
prisma niche
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I want an assail force-staff so badly

tiny cove
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Also you guys running triple toughness or double tough + health?

proper osprey
proper osprey
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For when I do inevitably get nicked

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How does it work?

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On toughness?

tiny cove
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I'm pretty sure its just 25% damage reduction

summer prairie
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all damage

wind spruce
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it works like KD in that peril reduction reduces the peril increase

tiny cove
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up the the point you run out of peril

proper osprey
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Yeah that’s good

wind spruce
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but i havent tested the damage to peril formula yet

quartz flare
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I wonder if there was a reason Empyric shock had to only work on primary attacks.

tiny cove
wind spruce
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i suppose i could test it now

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lost 15/150 health, gained 33% peril. no active peril reduction nodes or talents

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wait hang on why did i gain peril on the first bonk that didnt damage my health

summer prairie
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did you lose toughness

nocturne dust
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it works on toughness

proper osprey
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Guh

wind spruce
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wtf

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that is broken

proper osprey
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So it’s free toughness tdr

nocturne dust
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I have no idea what to drop for it though 😭

wind spruce
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literally anything

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its so good

proper osprey
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And synergizes with one with the warp

nocturne dust
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No angymorrow

wind spruce
proper osprey
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Hmmmmm

summer prairie
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if you play a gas map, you are going to sit at near max peril all the time with it

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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You stay at max peril while downed, lol

proper osprey
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Peak

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I wanna keep my monster and oggy damage

wind spruce
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mettle nerf is so big, absolutely have to take one of soulstealer or quietude

nocturne dust
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well... yeah KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
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otherwise all the gen you have is 7.5-10% toughness per second and melee hits/kills

nocturne dust
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That was how staffker was already

quartz flare
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I wish Empyric Shock would apply to every warp attacks. Just tone down the damage to 4% or less.

wind spruce
nocturne dust
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Empyric Shock and Channeling whatever remain awful

nocturne dust
wind spruce
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ok hear me out

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does mettle get canned....

nocturne dust
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well, for staffker no, cuz you need perfect timing

wind spruce
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staffker is solved already surely

nocturne dust
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for meleeker, I would say almost definitely but I'm betting the speed addicts will say otherwise for their beloved 0.0001 seconds of max speed per match

wind spruce
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took me 3 minutes and accidentally falling asleep twice to make my trauma build

next pine
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oh shit you get rewarded "No Provisions" without the auric check

wind spruce
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and apparently its still boring to play even after 7 months away

next pine
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just don't heal

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that's a bug

nocturne dust
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I dunno how anyone can say staffker is boring and then turn around and look at 'stab stab' man as peak

patent jacinth
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Define stab stab man

wind spruce
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londoners

nocturne dust
loud girder
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stab stab is simply more fun

patent jacinth
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Meleeker is definitely more fun

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I have to think

loud girder
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u simply need a stabbing loisence m8

nocturne dust
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Melee is way less fun and way less thinking

loud girder
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melee in the melee focused game is more funsies

nocturne dust
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Other than Inferno KEKW_ogryn

wind spruce
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i love casting blue circles at the ground the whole game

proper osprey
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What do we think about dropping soulstealer on inferno staff?

nocturne dust
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The only enemy remotely interesting to stab is Bonbon

proper osprey
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Does it still count towards souldrinker?

nocturne dust
proper osprey
wind spruce
nocturne dust
proper osprey
nocturne dust
wind spruce
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based, tbf

nocturne dust
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Slightly related, but screw plasma gunners

wind spruce
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and nothing tops knocking bursters that were too close away from your team with trauma

nocturne dust
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Who decided tanky rapid fire snipers was a good idea 😭

wind spruce
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or onto them

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depending on your mood

proper osprey
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Should I drop ee? On inferno?

summer prairie
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No...

nocturne dust
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Yes

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Your build

proper osprey
nocturne dust
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do what you want

proper osprey
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I want mah best build

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Actually soulstealer might be the best drop

summer prairie
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what do you path through then

cursive thorn
patent jacinth
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No

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Its been around for a bit

prisma niche
proper osprey
nocturne dust
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Charged Strike is gud guys

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#1 Waste of Points in the whole tree

summer prairie
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drop essence harvest

proper osprey
summer prairie
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and quietude

proper osprey
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Mah toughness

proper osprey
nocturne dust
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Fyre is addicted to overtoughness

summer prairie
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I run empyric resolve and I only have soulstealer+souldrinker+mettle and I would also drop mettle if I could

nocturne dust
wind spruce
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New talent just dropped

summer prairie
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I've been switching between quietude and soulstealer, we'll see

nocturne dust
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Mmmm I guess it is Inferno

proper osprey
summer prairie
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I run Just a dream with purg

nocturne dust
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The sheer chonk on purg psyker, lol

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I need to make a low peril inferno build

summer prairie
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I suppose with the shorter KF cooldown essence harvest is a bit better too

wind spruce
quartz flare
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Is it me or does the new psyker tree feel more uncomfortable.

quartz flare
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k

summer prairie
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Well it's more important when you are playing defensively and you can just proc it 100% even with e.g. the FS push attack

proper osprey
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@patent jacinth 690 on scab bruiser with like 5 stacks of dd will meet the bp

patent jacinth
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Right dd exists

wraith sphinx
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Perfectionism or nothing chadgryn

wind spruce
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ok so

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is Just A Dream multiplicative or additive with TDR

wraith sphinx
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No idea, I assume it works just like every other damage res talent though

wind spruce
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that would make sense but when do things ever make sense on release

prisma niche
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I completely forgot combat stimms reduce peril generation

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Another reason to use scrier's

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Arby:
"Double assail psyker? Fuck that."
Leaves before the game even started
On damnation, mind you

wraith sphinx
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Arbites not beating the mark of shame allegations

obtuse dome
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Guys is 4% toughness on quelling and gaining peril worth it? I do t really feel like it is.

wraith sphinx
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Yeah, absolutely

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If you are playing w staff go for it

obtuse dome
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I allready have on warp kill and crit tho

prisma niche
quartz flare
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I think the psyker tree need way more nodes.

wraith sphinx
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Yeah that's good

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You don't need more than two toughness gen nodes unless you really lack confidence in playing psyker

obtuse dome
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I picked the staff perk instead

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I feel like kills and crits just do so much more

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And quelling barely anything idk

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And i have ayphon too

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Warp syphon

wraith sphinx
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If you run prescience aura then I'd agree yeah

sturdy reef
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bait used to be believeable

wraith sphinx
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Mettle works best if you devote the build to racking crits

obtuse dome
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Ok thx

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Just not sure how many points to put at the top

wraith sphinx
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Up to you

obtuse dome
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Payker feels really strong now tho

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Not as squishy anymore

wraith sphinx
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Again I don't believe you need more or less than two tgh gen nodes

obtuse dome
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Ok

wraith sphinx
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I am running nettle WE and quietude on my bb gunker though

obtuse dome
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What builds do you guys use for a flame staff with bb?

wraith sphinx
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Mostly to compensate for bb being slow to charge

quartz flare
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Not counting the blitz/skill/keystone nodes psyker only have 34 while the others have at least 10 more nodes with a more flexible tree.

wraith sphinx
obtuse dome
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I really like the new trees

steel flame
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Zazy is a moron. For some goddam reason I didn't realize I had empyric selected on my fire gs build that does not use a staff

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I have now amended my mistake

quartz flare
wraith sphinx
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Not really, if anything it feels more straightforward than before

steel flame
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@wind spruce zazy has fixed moronic mistake with his funny build

wraith sphinx
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The only consideration there is to have is falling into the trap of thinking you need every single ability and node that makes you tankier and constricting your build that way

obtuse dome
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Yeah before you had to habe certain combinations now you can build whatever

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The trees are much much better now imo

quartz flare
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It's better than before Yes. But it feels like the other ones are so much better.

obtuse dome
steel flame
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I had empyric selected and I have no clue why @wind spruce

wraith sphinx
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That might be because the psyker tree was in the best state of the three pre rework

quartz flare
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I think these two should switch places.

summer prairie
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They definitely invested way more time and effort on the other two since psyker already had decent build variability and was strong, but it should get adjusted to be on par with the other two

obtuse dome
steel flame
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I'm just happy for the defensive talents

#

Then stun immunity is HUGE

wraith sphinx
#

My only real gripe is kinetic resonance still being niche and not worth picking

nocturne dust
#

BB remains BB KEKW_ogryn

obtuse dome
wraith sphinx
#

Not really

#

KF got significantly buffed

nocturne dust
wraith sphinx
#

Actually justifiable to use with a gun now

quartz flare
#

My main gripe is that the staff nodes still suck

nocturne dust
obtuse dome
#

Why hate bb?

wraith sphinx
obtuse dome
#

Easy oneshots on all specials

steel flame
nocturne dust
steel flame
#

Oh yeah fast bb

wraith sphinx
nocturne dust
# obtuse dome Why hate bb?

BB does not perform well. It's only decent with the multitude of speed-up buffs it can get, and sadly those buffs aren't consistent enough.

steel flame
#

My beloved says they were all sharing the same dream, shame dreams aren't real either

wraith sphinx
#

It's so beautiful siblings

#

Such apparitions

obtuse dome
prisma niche
steel flame
nocturne dust
#

You have to slow down and hide to make use of BB

obtuse dome
wraith sphinx
#

Waste no tears on an average arby angymorrow

nocturne dust
#

Darktide is not a 'slow down and hide' game

steel flame
#

Bb shouldnt need that to be halfway decent

prisma niche
#

Allegedly BB used to be decent when there were fewer special enemies and they were more threatening

steel flame
#

It still doesn't auto target elites

obtuse dome
#

I usually win with slow and steady teams

nocturne dust
#

Also, I did actually count the number of times KR was actually useful in a match from someone who swore by KR. It was <5% of BB kills.

wraith sphinx
#

Apparently captains spawn like in havoc if you go thru an auric mission too fast

nocturne dust
wraith sphinx
#

No

obtuse dome
#

Ull spawn every boss if u rush

steel flame
wraith sphinx
#

It's the havoc mechanic now added to auric

nocturne dust
obtuse dome
nocturne dust
#

Slow and steady works, yes, but you don't slow and steady by hiding behind a pillar and trying to pick enemies off with BB. Enemies in Havoc will literally out-spawn BB's kill rate.

#

and not mooks either, actual elites

obtuse dome
quartz flare
#

bb need a speed buff fr. it's not about the anti-speekrunning it's that it needs to be more aggressive.

prisma niche
obtuse dome
#

I agree it could be faster but i atill think its really strong

nocturne dust
#

BB needs to be more. It is just not good, and the only reason I pick it is for KF.

steel flame
#

Kf has been one of bbs only saving graces that even gives it a pick rate outside pathing since the game released

nocturne dust
obtuse dome
steel flame
#

It's good in vermintide

#

But not here

wraith sphinx
# prisma niche The sequel

Lol I know there are more psyker players than before, my comment was about void doing gunker erasure again

#

Anyways havoc bad

nocturne dust
steel flame
#

Necro is ready to snack on your soul

#

Om nom nom nom

prisma niche
nocturne dust
#

Vermintide is definitely a downgrade for me in terms of fun

wraith sphinx
#

I got both vermintides in my library during free giveaways but I just don't care about whf enough to try

nocturne dust
#

Lmao, I prefer WHF to 40k

wraith sphinx
#

It is one of the cooler fantasy settings out there though

#

Does vermin 2 still get new players

nocturne dust
#

I'm only here because STUPID SIENNA WITH HER STUPID SELF-DAMAGE AND STUPID TEAM DAMAGE

nocturne dust
obtuse dome
wraith sphinx
#

Yeah figured

obtuse dome
#

But dt melee just feels way better imo

steel flame
#

On brand that this entire update was for their silly not chaos wastes tm update and have not a single mention of it in 2 days

wraith sphinx
steel flame
#

Stop wanting WHF, want AOS not space marines instead

wraith sphinx
#

Age of sugmar nuts lol

obtuse dome
#

Just the combat in general tbh

wraith sphinx
#

I don't care for geedubs' rancid brand pushing

obtuse dome
#

And i dont like the beastmen enemys in vt and the chaos goons i wish it was rats only

wraith sphinx
#

They suck donkey balls, they just have a few hits with licencing their ips

steel flame
wind spruce
obtuse dome
#

I swear dt cosmetics be financing vermintide 2 😂

steel flame
#

VT got an entire new map with a kickass boss fight for its yearly event.......dt got a boss as a common spammed enemy

summer prairie
#

Something wrong with your V4 and V5 there

obtuse dome
#

How many players does vt2 even have?

summer prairie
#

the health damage of V5 should be wrong

obtuse dome
#

More or less?

steel flame
#

Only slightly less than darktide

obtuse dome
#

Thats surprising tbh

#

I mean i liked vt 1 but 2 never really catched me idk

steel flame
#

VT2 usually sits at 2-4k darktide settles at 5k without updates

summer prairie
#

V2 was completely free for a while

obtuse dome
steel flame
#

Update

wind spruce
summer prairie
#

the toughness damage is wrong too actually

#

oh wait

wind spruce
#

V4 is correct

summer prairie
#

I forgot Just a dream isn't working

wind spruce
#

Yep

summer prairie
#

in V5

#

including that in the testing was a bit silly

#

but I guess it makes sense

steel flame
#

What's wrong with dream now?

summer prairie
#

nothing, but his test scenario in that was at 100% peril so it wasn't proccing

wind spruce
#

Yeah definitely makes it more confusing than it needs to be for someone else looking at it

#

but its a WIP

#

There ya go

steel flame
#

I find it funny psyker can now face tank mauler overheads without blocking

wind spruce
#

you could do that before iirc

steel flame
#

At least in auric

#

Yeah but not with half health

fierce sand
#

hello

steel flame
#

Oh yeah crusher too

summer prairie
#

fix your numeric ui

nocturne dust
#

I did, that video is old

steel flame
#

It's funnier if you reverted for every video

#

Just to drive them insane

#

It's like always leaving a skill point unspent during streams so chat gets to have an aneurysm for 2 hours

#

Just always have a broken ammo counter in the corner of every clip

wind spruce
#

new PA is actually kinda cracked lol

#

scriers is consistently off CD halfway through warp unbound

summer prairie
#

It's at least on par with the old PA for the psyker

nocturne dust
#

lower peaks, higher troughs

wraith sphinx
#

We permagazing out here

nocturne dust
#

You weren't before? Smh my head

wraith sphinx
#

Not with assail no

gray juniper
#

At most times I had a roll going until team did something inconvenient like not allow me to kill it all myself

#

*or crushers showed up

gleaming hornet
#

So the new Psyker tree seems to have a pretty good "oops all peril" build path now, complete with juiced up Crystalline Will. Anyone did something fun with melee blender Psyker who occasionally explodes recreationally yet?

wraith sphinx
#

The overload kablooey is still dissapointingly weak

nocturne dust
#

yep

#

They need to juice those numbers even harder

#

by absurd amounts

patent jacinth
#

Crystalline is still a meme

#

Just don't explode

#

Also

gleaming hornet
#

Dang

gleaming hornet
#

I was hoping I'M GONNA BLOW UP was a real strat now

patent jacinth
#

Making me take reality anchor on gaze to get warp unbound has persuaded me to just

#

Not take it

nocturne dust
#

wat

#

precog is still an option

patent jacinth
#

Not for warp unbound pathing

#

Not spending 2 points for assail spam sometimes

nocturne dust
#

Top node

patent jacinth
#

It wasn't letting me earlier today

#

Whatever

#

I need that point

patent jacinth
#

To take all of middle tree

nocturne dust
patent jacinth
#

6 points of pure heat

nocturne dust
#

I want anticipation for staff builds so much but the points are too sparse 😭

wraith sphinx
#

why

#

just dodge backwards and continue rmb spamming

nocturne dust
#

out of dodges

#

😔

uncut tusk
#

Have more dodges then lmao

nocturne dust
#

That's why I want anticipation

uncut tusk
#

Im curious if anyones made a melee build for psyker using the chain ax

nocturne dust
#

Some love it on psyker so almost certainly

uncut tusk
#

mhm I really hope they add a Force Ax at some point

quartz flare
nocturne dust
#

I want a force knife because I'm addicted to speed

quartz flare
#

yeah we need more nodes clustered together.

nocturne dust
#

I can still see the background, so we need more nodes

marble crater
#

Remove the small node in the middle, for one

nocturne dust
#

I'm just annoyed psyker's tree is seemingly purposefully more inflexible than the other trees

#

More dead ends at the bottom, more minor nodes

quartz flare
#

it even have the most chokehold points which are all minor

uncut tusk
#

I just wish if I go scryers I didn't have to spend 3+ points to get quietude

marble crater
#

But qietude is just one point from the top

uncut tusk
#

whoops I meant solidity

marble crater
uncut tusk
#

to grab empyric resolve

#

leaves me with juust one point shy of another perk I want

#

Im trying to weave soulblaze into the melee build ;-;

#

gimme fire perks

quartz flare
#

psyker has the least nodes yet it always leaves you with not enough points.

uncut tusk
#

my favourite ability in the game is brain burst but its always so awful to use

obtuse dome
uncut tusk
#

in the time it takes to charge a burst a vet has mowed down the whole damn crowd

#

;-;

obtuse dome
uncut tusk
#

or the lockon is shit

quartz flare
#

BB with EP should be the default speed at minimum.

obtuse dome
#

And only use leftclick imo

uncut tusk
gleaming hornet
#

BB was already clunky and bad when the game came out, and it hasn't been meaningfully improved since

quartz flare
#

and start with targeting only specials and elites

gleaming hornet
#

Actually untrue, making it not required for warp charges was arguably an improvement, as was the auto-trigger node

#

So really, the improvements were a direct result of not having to actively use it

obtuse dome
#

I like it a lot but i understand how people think its too slow i hated bb at first when i played psyker.

uncut tusk
#

when I ran it I had both the EP plus kinetic which makes it charge faster

wraith sphinx
#

I love darktide

uncut tusk
#

I like the concept of brainburst but its AGONIZINGLY slow

quartz flare
#

It couldn't catch up with all the powercreep

uncut tusk
#

by the time I've charged it up a vet with bolter could kill 6 elites

#

if not more

obtuse dome
#

And good aim 😆

uncut tusk
#

at the difficulty Im at ammo isn't too hard to come by

#

I've just come back after a loong break

quartz flare
#

aiming isn't a issue on BB? get real lmao

obtuse dome
#

Once i gor the hang of it im popping heads left and right no trouble.

uncut tusk
#

Me when I aim at the mauler but the game decides FUCK THIS POXWALKER

obtuse dome
uncut tusk
wraith sphinx
#

win

uncut tusk
#

It simply needs to be faster

quartz flare
#

There really needs to be a targeting priority

obtuse dome
quartz flare
obtuse dome
#

Of course the vet is faster if u aim for the one goon ifront of him

gleaming hornet
wraith sphinx
#

win

gleaming hornet
#

BB started way behind other, actually useful abilities and never moved.

uncut tusk
#

for now Im stickin with my melee build

quartz flare
#

same here

#

at least if's still fun

uncut tusk
#

though Im debatin on if I wanna get rid of perilous combustion or wildfire cause I dont have enough ppooooooooints

quartz flare
#

same.

#

but I really want to proc soul drinker too

uncut tusk
#

Or I could get ridda warpsplitting and have boff of dem

#

yeah fuck warp splittin we don't need cleave

versed hedge
obtuse dome
quartz flare
#

then why is it even ther?

uncut tusk
#

if I need cleave I'll just whoosh my sword

#

I doo kinda wish there was a node that gave crits soulblaze in the perk tree cause chainaxe with crits on the rev would be funny

#

"And now you are burning a lot

wraith sphinx
#

it really do be kinda nice

#

lights out auric, only had 10 health damage in total throughout

#

plasma gunner event too

uncut tusk
#

damn thats a lotta tankiness

#

lemme attempt to get a build pic in a second

quartz flare
#

Speaking of which, do poxwalkers even have brains left to pop?

glacial vapor
#

Sure

#

Might be a few extra maggots in there though

#

And a few bits missing

quartz flare
#

fair enough

quartz flare
wraith sphinx
#

I use mk V dueling sword and mk x laspistol

quartz flare
#

cool

wraith sphinx
#

will try dropping vulnerable minds for warp speed

#

warp speed is a really fun subnode but I haven't used it in almost a year now

uncut tusk
#

the uhh plasmagunners are cring

wraith sphinx
#

<@&735928989146939404> ^

marble crater
#

Red name turned into a Servitor, sad

uncut tusk
#

they are hard to see and unlike the plasma pistol bosses don't quite seem to have a windup

#

Cool concept for an enemy tho just....basically snipers with no lazer

marble crater
#

You can hear them charge the gun though

uncut tusk
#

I couldn't hear shit when they shot me just voop ded

marble crater
#

I only played two missions with them so far and had no problems with hearing them, maybe I was just lucky and need more situations KEKW_ogryn

obtuse dome
#

Super loud sound like a captain boss. Hard to miss honestly.

upbeat kestrel
patent steeple
#

the most common problem I have with plasma gunners right now is that they look too similar to regular scab shooters from a distance... (unless its in a darkness level, in which case their plasma gun's glow when they are just about to shoot makes them easier to spot)

upbeat kestrel
#

However those fuckers can survive hesdshot from helbire mk5

marble crater
#

Carapace head will do that

prisma niche
#

Carapace head is fucking up my muscle memory

wraith sphinx
#

comparable to arbites levels of tanking damage

#

I still wasn't capable enough to do hab dreyko finale solo though Sitgryn

marble crater
sage salmon
#

did they nerf the chain electrokinesis on this updt?

long saddle
#

smite?

#

they made it spread farther without that extra talent, so it's baked in better

sage salmon
#

i think it is smite, the hand shock thing, it's building peril much faster

dusk timber
#

It builds peril faster but it has the extra targets modifier built into it

sage salmon
#

can i reduce the peril buildup somehow? it's incredibly faster

dusk timber
#

So you can hold more targets, but not for as much time

sage salmon
#

hmm, i liked the upgrade but the peril generation is too fast

wind spruce
#

It's only 25% faster

long saddle
#

prob helps to stop the turtle playstyle and create more healthy playstyles for newer players

wraith sphinx
#

slight nerf but a welcome one yeah

long saddle
#

psyker is more CC than support with its squishiness, it still has insane damage potential

wraith sphinx
#

now they should rework smite into something good 🙏

long saddle
#

well the alternative is to not have it be a held thing

#

but it's prob too strong if it's very fast

#

idt any other class spends as much time having their blitz out

sage salmon
long saddle
#

the peril increase falls in line with that thinking tho

#

if you can use smite forever, something that inherently doesn't deal a lot of damage, then you're just pure support

sage salmon
#

i don't think reducing the time you can use smite will change this honestly

wind spruce
sage salmon
#

specially since it's supposed to hold of hordes

wraith sphinx
wind spruce
long saddle
#

yeah that falls more in line with other CC, beside maybe chorus

#

I'm prob not gonna use it much for that, I still like the EP Smite with SG

#

and prob won't use it often anyway

wraith sphinx
#

so if said players can do that less, I think it's a good change

wind spruce
#

Exactly. Utility; not a playstyle.

long saddle
#

it prevents a few characters from excelling that rely on enemy interactions to get strong/tanky

#

but I usually like it because it opens up enemies freely

wind spruce
#

Pissing off zealots is funny though

wraith sphinx
#

tru

long saddle
#

that they won't kill with their weak smite

#

I have seen high level players smite a ton in missions and still get high damage numbers, so it's not incompatible

wind spruce
#

Peak psyker gameplay is landing trauma shots just on the "wrong" side of bursters so they get knocked towards smealots

long saddle
#

but if you're not in auric all the time you prob don't see it that much

wind spruce
#

"Oops"

wraith sphinx
#

sorry didn't see it 🙈

long saddle
#

ye I did some trauma runs for the new auric mortis stuff and the respawning barrels were funny with teammates

#

it's too hard not to hit them

wind spruce
#

That's why you gotta land the blue circle on the opposite side so it doesn't explode, just gets knocked on top of them and they shit their pants

long saddle
#

trauma psykers got nothing on dog juggling bursters tho

#

they just can't control it as well

steel flame
#

Fire sword when brrrr regardless

#

One guy rage quit in the first section and farland was floor tanking alot

wind spruce
#

Also you should get ovenproofs scoreboard extension so you can see details like how much warpfire damage youre doing

steel flame
#

I've had it before

#

Too cluttered for my taste

wind spruce
#

Wait wdym you noticed empyric?

steel flame
#

I had it selected in the build for fuck knows how long, no clue why, gave me what I needed to grab flayer

wind spruce
#

Empyric resolve?!

steel flame
#

No, primary staff damage

wind spruce
#

Ohhhhh

#

I forget those ones

steel flame
#

Empyric shock

#

No clue why

#

But it's fixed now

wind spruce
#

Brains too big, things get lost thumbsup_ogryn

steel flame
#

Anyway, I am profoundly happy to confuse people with a pure melee build dealing more ranged than melee

wraith sphinx
#

havoc 21 attempt going great

#

it's basically just a cracked sf zealot clutching

#

and it was going so well until the twins spawned 😭

#

I don't think I can think of a counterplay to being literally crowd crushed

wind spruce
#

what server do you play on 50rem

dusk timber
wraith sphinx
wind spruce
#

ah im SEA

#

my gunker is fucking invincible now

#

i keep coming out of cooked positions not even taking chip

#

cant quite understand it tbh

wraith sphinx
#

yeah this was immediately my best h21 gunker attempt

#

the tankiness is for real nutty

#

here goes a second attempt 🫡

wind spruce
#

gl sir

left hare
#

did any of the psyker weps get giga buffed?

left hare
wind spruce
#

yes

left hare
#

playing now?

#

i can nvr find sea players

wind spruce
#

im just doing a quick mael quickplay then got shit to do before bed sorry g

#

but add me and we will game

sacred crane
#

Is that geist/ghosr node any good?

#

The only that makes peril passively drain much slower but you get more tdr

wind spruce
#

its toughness replenishment not TDR

#

but yeah i think its pretty good for a lot of builds

sacred crane
#

Ive been debating on bringing it on my inferno build

wind spruce
#

+25% toughness from all sources is pretty bonkers

#

and you dont actually want your peril to decay on many builds

#

im not 100% sold on it for gunker but most staffs? ez pick

sacred crane
#

So basically almost every top node gets 25% better?

wind spruce
#

yep

sacred crane
#

I'll give it a shot

#

Might also try just a dream

#

Acccttuuaalllyy

#

Maybe not with ghost

wind spruce
#

why? they have good synergy

#

Just A Dream works on toughness damage btw

#

so every hit is peril is extra toughness from buffed quietude

wraith sphinx
#

I DID IT

#

H21 FILTER CLEARED ON GUN PSYKER

wind spruce
#

very nice

wraith sphinx
#

ty ty

wind spruce
#

lmao i cant believe i basically got a free +3 stam curio with all these other buffs

sacred crane
wind spruce
#

97%

sacred crane
#

oh

#

ok nvm

sweet sigil
#

made a speed melee got to test it was fun as hell

zealous wing
#

97.5 if you want to be mega specific

sacred crane
#

97% is barely ever gonna happen

#

Free 25% resistance on a squishy class

zealous wing
#

it depends what you get hit by, and how good you are at peril management for high damage

sacred crane
#

Also what about that one node that gives 10% resistance?

wind spruce
#

also good

sacred crane
#

Warp demons in my head eating good tonight

zealous wing
#

time to read some patch notes

#

Fixed an issue which could lead to client and server crashes during missions related to the “Smuggled Munitions” event.

hopefully this fixes the issues

#

surprised they didnt hotfix the broken as hell penance but oh well KEKW_ogryn

kind jay
#

im addicted to gambling with crystalline and im absolutely not sorry for it

#

look at me im the poxburster now

marble crater
proper osprey
#

Do I main psyker again

#

Or stay true to my path of zealot…

#

Hmmmm

#

The choices

lavish comet
#

Does EE prog Precognition and Riposte?

marble crater
#

No

#

You are not dodging, you just count as dodging

lapis fern
#

So with the one perk that converts some damage into peril, I noticed when you go downed peril still goes up until 97%. Does that mean the bleed out time is slightly longer depending on how much peril you had when you got downed?

sacred crane
#

Use thr trauma staff

#

Oooohhhh trauma staff

#

Oooohhhh soulblaze explosiobs

wind spruce
#

loving taxe fyrestone

#

i used it on gunker way back when but feels actually stronk now lol

zealous wing
#

a berpsyker?

proper osprey
limpid lily
#

thinking of trying out new Venting Shriek in Havoc

proper osprey
limpid lily
#

Warp Rupture looks great

proper osprey
#

Ohhh the new node?

#

My bad

limpid lily
proper osprey
#

My melee psyker always tops damage

wind spruce
#

18 months ago no one believed

#

look at us now

proper osprey
proper osprey
wind spruce
wind spruce
proper osprey
#

I should say Cara spam

wind spruce
limpid lily
limpid lily
#

that's a different way you can go about it

#

just maybe thinking going full Smite xD

proper osprey
#

Guh

#

1SBP?

wind spruce
#

one shot break point

proper osprey
#

Ohhh heavy

#

Like with zealot he has the same issue

#

But he can achieve it very easily by dodging

wind spruce
#

ya im hitting 690/815 with perfect timing and headtaker up, but a bit of DD or being in scriers should get there

proper osprey
#

Because of that one talent

zealous wing
dense flume
#

"ohhhh" - me

zealous wing
#

also yes

#

it works like so

wind spruce
#

so hitting it is quite easy to be honest

zealous wing
proper osprey
#

Warp expenditure

zealous wing
#

literally not enough toughness regen to matter compared to quietude

proper osprey
#

By crack of bone

zealous wing
#

also no

proper osprey
zealous wing
#

warp splitting, unstable power, scriers

#

BCoB was too much quell

patent steeple
proper osprey
#

I use both crit blessings

zealous wing
#

yeah but you also use a taxe

proper osprey
#

Or shred wrath

zealous wing
#

and its an EK build

wind spruce
#

if your peril is too low you arent using assail enough

zealous wing
#

or im using the wrong talent for mainly a hordeclearer

wind spruce
#

ive been running battle med, BCoB and TtS AND reality anchor for the last two games lel

patent steeple
#

funnily enough, despite not liking Crack of Bone anymore, I do like Battle Med on nearly every build now, just because it quells rarely enough that I can still stay at high peril but still quell a bit sometimes...

wind spruce
#

still too much peril

#

i really dont get it lads

zealous wing
#

yeah when you turn damage into peril that will happen

wind spruce
#

use your assail

uncut tusk
#

It sounds perilous~

proper osprey
#

More damage

#

More crit

wraith sphinx
#

bcob my beloved

zealous wing
#

its FINE but like

#

not vital

wraith sphinx
#

not a lot of things feel as good as getting stuck in with a competent zealot with gaze popped

wind spruce
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plus if you have a longer scriers, now with improved PA, you cycle straight back into the next one before WU is finished most of the time

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or just immediately lol

wraith sphinx
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yup, almost infinite uptime

zealous wing
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yeah but yall also gave me shit for using ammo as the dump stat for vraks, so foxshrug