psyker-class

[cosmic cobalt]

in term of blocking

[ripe obsidian]

I know how KD works.

I am a certified KD enjoyer

I put +stamina on my weapon to improve KD

But the 2 point tax to get it now has a lot of other good options

[pale prairie]

Don’t forget if you are grabbing ghost you are getting +1 stamina from the white node above it

[ripe obsidian]

It becomes a question of whether or not the 2 points for KD are better used elsewhere

[spice flame]

lots of stam

[ripe obsidian]

I think I accounted for that. Not positive

[spice flame]

KD + immaterial focus is quite good

the stun immunity is chief's kiss

[pale prairie]

I am unsure if I want KD now with ghost lowering my passive quell while blocking

[zealous wing]

k i did change this

its now pretty much just your build now six 😔

[pale prairie]

Then again having an extra +3 stamina will mean I can block a lot more before I hit critical peril

[zealous wing]

but i have a sick ass stave so thats cool

[scarlet star]

not gonna be able to play until tonight, hows the psykinetic aura nerf feel?

[cosmic cobalt]

it doesnt change how much you can block before hitting crit peril

[spice flame]

I can't be asked to remake all my build tho

[cosmic cobalt]

it only change how much you can block after you reach crit peril

[analog agate]

How’s the new tree

[spice flame]

great

very great

[tacit stump]

what do you think about the mk 2 duellist sword now

[spice flame]

there's a mk2 DS ?????

[spice flame]

(jk)

[cosmic cobalt]

mk2 is now the worst one

[analog agate]

How does it fair the the blaze VB build

[pale prairie]

From kuli

[ripe obsidian]

?

[pale prairie]

“Increasing max stamina can help with peril efficiency”

[ripe obsidian]

Stamina affects KD

[scarlet star]

dont think you meant to reply to me but did they change how wildfire works or is it still trash?

[cosmic cobalt]

am i misremembering

[ripe obsidian]

The peril gen on KD is based on % max stamina

[pale prairie]

Yes

[ripe obsidian]

So if an attack does 50% of your max stamina, it gives 1/4 that as peril for 12.5%

[zealous wing]

you asked about the PA nerf, thats it in action courtesy of Sut

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, the stun immunity appeals to me. Lots of good choices

[scarlet star]

you linked a build I asked how it feels though

but it really doesn't matter much ill be on later

[zealous wing]

well it seems like its not gonna affect individual gameplay much at all, just spam slightly less

[ripe obsidian]

It's a tough choice. I need to see if the 6 bars of stamina or whatever are enough to make me feel safe

How much stamina is Deimos + stamina node + warp ghost?

[pale prairie]

They haven’t changed wildfire at all. It feels a tiny bit nicer though because KF gets procced more often with its lower cooldown

[spice flame]

ngl, I'm jealous of that outfit

[pale prairie]

Looks silly to me hahaha

[spice flame]

IKR

and i love it

[pale prairie]

The mask is so unique

[paper harbor]

my seer would say that

[tough obsidian]

fuck it
close enough

still want my telekine staff but this will do i guess

[zealous wing]

ye its pretty nice

i still cant believe they massacred the FGS skins though 😔

[ripe obsidian]

I am on the fence for that one. It seems really fantastic, but if I am already peril edging at like 80%+ all the time, I fear it will screw me up when a random shooter plinks me or a silent poxwalker kicks me

[pale prairie]

You get +3 stamina from ghost and white node. I don’t know what Deimos base is though

[zealous wing]

like 3

i think

same as batteries?

[ripe obsidian]

This is too much stamina.

Silly.

[zealous wing]

im so sad

[ripe obsidian]

I will try to remember to check the stamina count when I get home. Unless Hexis can be a hero and find out for me.

[pale prairie]

It’s okay you only use gun anyway

[zealous wing]

:( incorrect

[pale prairie]

Then inspect a random Deimos

And tell me what stamina base is

Please

[zealous wing]

no talents

[pale prairie]

Okay so 3 is base

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

[pale prairie]

Looks like if 1 bar is psyker base then Deimos is +2, ghost is +2, and white node above ghost is +1

[ripe obsidian]

So 3 + 2 + 2 + 1 if I keep stamina on my sword.

[pale prairie]

That’s a lot of stamina

The best part is you get the extra 3 bars for your staff so more running

[ripe obsidian]

7 bars is not bad. It might be enough to drop KD. Unsure. KD has huge value for reviving, ragers, and rituals

Also for blocking gunners

[pale prairie]

Right you have deflectors

[zealous wing]

no this is a lot of stamina

[ripe obsidian]

Usually. But I might try the new DS for parry shenanigans

[pale prairie]

Karien

[ripe obsidian]

My melee weapon is mostly used for movement and defense on Staffker. And poking mutants

[mighty olive]

hm wonder why they got rid of the 5% crit on the tree, i dont see it anywhere, i guess we aren't allowed extra crit? >_<

[mighty olive]

OH

i'm just blind

ty<3

[zealous wing]

its required now nw

[mighty olive]

XDDD

[ripe obsidian]

You will get crit, and you will like it.

[mighty olive]

yay!

[wraith sphinx]

kinda sad I can't record my games now 😩

[ripe obsidian]

I think Souldrinker will get my average crit on Inferno to ~45%. Can get to 50% with crit aura.

[steady yarrow]

I'm not sure if I fully understand rending, but is Penetration of the Soul a must-take talent right now?

[zealous wing]

not really

[spice flame]

warp attacks already have good rending

well, not rending but armor penetration

except on carapace

[steady yarrow]

oh true actually

[spice flame]

so that talent is not great

[steady yarrow]

not to mention it's peril scaling instead of flat 20%

[spice flame]

and now it's out of the way so there's little to no insentive on getting it

[pale prairie]

Damn you

Just stealing all the soulblaze and all the crit

[marble crater]

Reported

[strong gulch]

Yup. Now I don't have to do it.

[tacit stump]

idk if i should get it have the other 3 staff skins

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Attacks, on the whole, already have 100% or higher damage modifiers on all but Carapace and Void Shield. Any rending over 100% has significantly reduced effectiveness (1/4, I think). So 20% is only 5% for a majority of attacks

[patent steeple]

what about EK builds that use SG and use the rmb on scab ragers/crushers? in those situations, bonus 20% rending for 10 secs sounds decent...?

[spice flame]

bleh

[steady yarrow]

ok cool, thanks for spelling that out for me

[ripe obsidian]

EK should do flak to scab ragers afaik.

[spice flame]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Flak is their default armor type

[patent steeple]

I think it was cara last time I checked in the grinder...

[ripe obsidian]

So anything that doesn't target a specific hit box does flak. Such as EK and warpfire

[spice flame]

mass/head is flak

chest is cara

[timber cairn]

Hey guys, returning psyker-man. How does Psyker look with the new update in terms of dmg

[steady yarrow]

damage has never been the problem lol

[patent steeple]

VERY GOOD.

also, survivability is through the roof on psyker right now, especially for melee builds.

[steady yarrow]

Just a Dream makes melee psyker feel so good

What keystone do you guys prefer for melee psyker? Disrupt Destiny?

Warp Ghost is also so broken for melee

[patent steeple]

yes, DD is the best for melee and gun psyker builds

[patent steeple]

but you have to consider that if you wanna stay at 90+ peril 24/7 (like I do, for example), Just A Dream does somewhat little (especially if you don't run any peril combat-quell talents like Crack of Bone or Battle Med...).

[pale prairie]

Good point

Hmmmmmmm

[steady yarrow]

yeah actually great point

[upper sun]

hmmm ok point

[analog agate]

My Blaze VB tree

[steady yarrow]

I think I was enjoying Just a Dream and Warp Ghost just keeping me at 95 peril without thinking about it

[ripe obsidian]

Seems good.

[analog agate]

Obviously people can still choose to not do inner tranq and ER

Now to figure out the melee since ds iv was nerfed

[ripe obsidian]

Inner Tranq is the only thing I probably wouldn't pick

Not sure where I would put that point

[analog agate]

I have it because I do solo. And seem to have to stun every special cause my team is oblivious

[ripe obsidian]

Solo as in pubs

Or solo as in true solo?

[analog agate]

pubs.

[ripe obsidian]

Because true solo psyker sounds like masochism

I also only do pubs. I can see value in Inner Tranq, just not my preference

[analog agate]

I will probably just stick with deimos and let the people better at numbers figure out better single target weapons

[celest valve]

👀

[modest perch]

can deimos poke stagger crushers ?

[ripe obsidian]

Obscurus

Obscurus has goofy single target damage

[ripe obsidian]

You know what you must do.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. Heavy stagger. Knocks them over on headshot H2

[marble crater]

Ha, it actually ranked me back up to 30 havoc even though I deranked to 22 or something

[ripe obsidian]

Cheater!

[zealous wing]

i think mine was 20

even though i knocked it down to below ten to farm the penance

[pale prairie]

Damn by crack of bone still quells too much for my tastes

[lapis yacht]

new al qaeda build ?

[marble crater]

Have you tried not picking it?

[royal totem]

sorry what does INner Tranquility do?

[ripe obsidian]

I'll quell you

[ripe obsidian]

Lower peril generation based on warp charges

[pale prairie]

I am thinking battle meditation to help keep a good YoYo for Just a Dream working and stuff like Warp Rider

[royal totem]

ahh

i'm letting people smarter than me tell me what is ideal lmao.

[copper jay]

Si finally that was a buff or a nerf for us ?

[pale prairie]

Figure out what works best for you personally. Everyone plays differently.

But hearing build crafting is very helpful

[royal totem]

i play psyker while panicking every single moment

[strong gulch]

Yeah. I can steal then and then tell everyone about it.

[royal totem]

and hitting things with my tac axe

[pale prairie]

That’s what I did. That’s why I pinned those builds I made in the chat

[pale prairie]

Oh a taxer. Yeah you are charting your own course hahaha

[celest valve]

hey uh you know how i sometimes joked that locking your peril at critical would actually be a buff for a number of psyker builds

[royal totem]

sometimes my wrist hurts too much to tac axe. then i switch to....well normally it's shock maul i switch to

[spice flame]

warp ghost might be one of the best talent in the game yeah

[celest valve]

i mean there are some pretty good talents really

[royal totem]

i have a more serious problem. i can't seem to figure out when to shoot things with my shotgun instead of using tac axe

[spice flame]

shoot when in range

tac axe in melee

[pale prairie]

When it’s not gonna just ping off of carapace or bulwark

[stoic axle]

where my fellow kamikaze enjoyers at

[celest valve]

you know if there's sufficient elite enemies, and you can get a build to always blow them up when you go critical... eh it stops before critical peril rip

[prime elk]

Use skitarius

If you’re on PC

[royal totem]

am indeed on pc

[ionic sorrel]

Haven't tried yet, how has it been?

[prime elk]

tough luck if you’re on console

[stoic axle]

its very fun but its pretty terrible

like 1k damage at base

ive gotten it to 2k with buffs

[prime elk]

Oof. They should just make it ogryn nuke (prob a terrible idea)

[pale prairie]

Hacks

[stoic axle]

if they made it work on specials it might actually be useable

[celest valve]

rip psykinetic's aura tho(good)

[stoic axle]

right now only shotgunners can reliably be one shot

[prime elk]

Yeah all the poor guys that got banned for running skitarius 😓

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[cosmic cobalt]

mfs never used martydom knife

😔

[pale prairie]

What’s next? Bistol bleed build using FGS special and macro weapon swap?!?

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, looks like chain_lightning does target center_mass. Which is carapace on scab ragers. I was mistaken

[prime elk]

Macro would suck with that but sure

[ripe obsidian]

Thought it hit the default of flak

[ionic sorrel]

Fastest knife is best knife?

[pale prairie]

Yeah I saw it do decent damage in havoc 40

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[pale prairie]

Still weird as shit

[prime elk]

You need to swap manually anyway because the bleed only applies on things hit while bistol is out

So macro wouldn’t help

[pale prairie]

He was swapping faster than possible

[prime elk]

Then he wasn’t getting the bleed effect

Unless the enemies were literally right in his face

[pale prairie]

At the very least he was spamming stab where his character animation was tweaking out

[prime elk]

Maybe he was macro abusing the horde clear combo?

[pale prairie]

He was getting bleeds. Maybe I labeled it wrong but he claimed he built a macro that would weapon swap faster than manual after casting special

[prime elk]

🤔

[pale prairie]

I just know the whole match he was just spamming specials and things were bleeding

And finally when I saw his character meleeing I was like WTF

[cosmic cobalt]

very nice senator how about you back it up with a source

[thorn cedar]

my source is nanomachines

........ son

[copper jay]

How do you feel about this patch for us ?

[strong gulch]

good

[pale prairie]

Nah trust me just like KD and stamina

[copper jay]

What do you prefer ?

[strong gulch]

IDK yet. I haven't done a lot of testing and whatnot yet.

I like that multiple bad talents are gone. We have some juicy new talents and much better pathing.

[mighty olive]

pardon my ignorance, what is VB? >_<

[analog agate]

voidblast

[strong gulch]

Souldrinker seems to be able to refresh now

when did that change?

this patch or earlier?

[marble crater]

Who knows

[patent mango]

SWAGGER IS BACK?

[strong gulch]

he been hanging out

[spice flame]

been a while

[patent mango]

i'll give him a trucks worth of plasteel to frick off

[marble crater]

Instead of hanging out, he should go look for a new map in the void for us

[strong gulch]

Do you think specials weren't included in crystalline will because you could just explode and not face the consequences of getting grabbed by a mutie or dog?

[marble crater]

Mayhaps

[analog agate]

Meh, they just made psyker much easier to play. Cause now you truly just have toughness regen and reduction out the ass. I face tanked a chaos spawn in this and never blocked. Cause I was always at critical peril and everything dying on fire was giving me toughness

[marble crater]

Finally on par with ogryn and arby

[dire pier]

build?

[celest valve]

uh

[thorn cedar]

ohhhhhh i thought they said bondage conversations

[cosmic cobalt]

you can already facetank chao spawn before update

nothing changes much about psyker except better pathing

[marble crater]

Conversations as well, not lines

[celest valve]

yeah but crystalline will might actually be used now

[cosmic cobalt]

idk about you but literally half of player conversation sound like gibberish to me lmao

the new update one at least isn't bad

[zealous wing]

i see more clipping in my future

[dire pier]

i just spam for atoma wym

[zealous wing]

i should clean out all the old videos

[dire pier]

[marble crater]

Turn on subtitles

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah i do

[analog agate]

EK build with FGS

[celest valve]

four shortened lifespans

[cosmic cobalt]

have subtitles on

the problem with conversion is that they dont flow naturally and end abruptly lol

[zealous wing]

gibberish huh?

i do wish the convo didnt end though, getting interrupted is the worst :(

[upper sun]

chat

night cap?

[zealous wing]

not a full convo but

[ripe obsidian]

Don't talk about me like I am not here. >:(

[analog agate]

Maybe doing an assail weave EK build will now be better than BB build. Unsure. Would probably have to macro it though to actually get it to better and consistent

[ripe obsidian]

It was a macro. I used it like 2 games. The weapon swap was perfectly timed so that I was getting bleed on like 90% of the force wave

[upper sun]

nooooooo ur too pretty to macro

[zealous wing]

if you need a macro to do something, you're just not good enough to do it yourself

macro's are for losers

[upper sun]

nah carpel tunnel is a thing

[analog agate]

Ya. I use keep swinging for knife cause of ct stuff. And that is a simple macro.

[thorn cedar]

yea for losers

[zealous wing]

true, but, still, when someone says "need a macro to get it to be better and consistent" that doesnt scream "medical condition" to me

[vague musk]

psyker feels so much better now

[cosmic cobalt]

how it feel to be young

[celest valve]

heyyy they actually did like... psyker only balance changes for dueling sword

[thorn cedar]

im 35, i play through the pain because i aint some PUSSY afraid to bleed for his emperor

[ripe obsidian]

I literally used it 2 games to see if I could make it work, then never again

[pale prairie]

I was more talking about the guy we saw in havoc 40 who inspired it

[zealous wing]

yeah you can blow up from it 🤗

[vague musk]

got everything based on peril and ghost so I actually have to manage peril

[upper sun]

@radiant frigate are u in my game?

[analog agate]

Do ER and Ghost. Stay at critical peril forever and never have to manage it. And just be at top dmg and toughness reduction at all times

[vague musk]

do have both, as well as damage into peril and block into peril

[analog agate]

Peril management is no longer a thing on psyker haha. Psyker is definitely less of a skill management class now

[zealous wing]

why would ER help you stay at critical

[marble crater]

Did they make the captains... taller?

[zealous wing]

especially top toughness comment

[vague musk]

Wish I had just 2 more talent points so I could get the cleave from peril as well

[zealous wing]

lemme check

i dont think so

why

[cosmic cobalt]

unless youre gun/melee psyker I don't think warp splitting is that good

[analog agate]

ER means more firing at high peril and not quelling. Couple it with inner tranq.

[vague musk]

rending*

not cleave

[marble crater]

They looked a lot bigger in my mission just now

[ripe obsidian]

Ah. Yeah, he macros constantly. Every single game. Is obnoxious

[zealous wing]

... how tall is your character?

[wraith sphinx]

got booted from two missions by error 2014 😭

[zealous wing]

and, what character

like, class

[marble crater]

31 ticks down from max height

[thorn cedar]

woah drip check tho

or did they always look like that

idk i just kill

[zealous wing]

short

[wraith sphinx]

I am honestly really dissapointed dsword parry can't be spammed like the dclaw parry

where's the fun in that

[marble crater]

It's a fair amount above average height, tall psyker looks silly

[cosmic cobalt]

then dclaw have no reason to exist

not like they have a good reason currently

[marble crater]

It's also a nice height for melee at enemy head height

[thorn cedar]

dclaws are pretty good

[cosmic cobalt]

good for exactly 1 purpose

[thorn cedar]

nah

[analog agate]

But yeah. They just made psyker easier to play and just as strong. No new maps. I will play other games until they do more content again

[thorn cedar]

i mean the DC1 is still trash and probably will always be

but the dclaws are perfectly balanced, completely middle of the road

flak damage on lights is awful but thats what strikedowns and the parry is for

[cosmic cobalt]

it have bad mixed horde clear + single target but eh

[wraith sphinx]

dclaw is the most fun melee weapon for horde clearing

[cosmic cobalt]

also yeah ass armor damage

you can use dclaw to parry tank shit but i just prefer blocking + having the ability to kite horde

maybe until they fixed the issue with parry not triggering

[pale prairie]

Alright time to test out this fat ass melee psyker build

[thorn cedar]

how did you make the ass fat

[wraith sphinx]

empyric matter expansion

[pale prairie]

The warp leads to many powers that some find unnatural

The answer is slaanesh

[spice oar]

They got that shit on can’t lie

[weary crane]

Yeah I said this earlier, it's my main problem with it

Idk if it's possible to animation cancel it

[wraith sphinx]

I don't think so

[zealous wing]

i still cant decide if i want this torso or not lol
it looks so silly though i'm going to be tempted for the entire month

[wraith sphinx]

you can't perform a block until the parry goes through in its entirety

[pale prairie]

looks like a tutu

[zealous wing]

everyone needs a silly ass motherfucker build

[spice oar]

It’s kinda disproportionate I get what you mean

[wraith sphinx]

I got it anyways

for variety

[spice oar]

[wraith sphinx]

the steampunk aesthetic is so goofy though

[cosmic cobalt]

darktide player when making financial decisions

[zealous wing]

all i know is there is more risk of them getting me with this coat

[wraith sphinx]

but yeah the dsword parry? Really feels pointless

[zealous wing]

(i have this one already)

[wraith sphinx]

you can use it to parry the final strike on boss attack chains, yay

[cosmic cobalt]

it more of something you weave into when blocking

[zealous wing]

i just wish i fucking went ahead and got the double coat/cape one

something else that fits the vibe i want will come along, eventually 😔

just give us a backpack slot cape, fs

[ripe obsidian]

Hm. If I am reading this code correctly, the firestick actually does more damage to each subsequent target hit with the projectile, up until the 7th. I could be reading it wrong.

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/dc3388395e5cef46a39237ae3ab24e2771e91f6c/scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_templates/force_staffs/settings_templates/force_staff_damage_profile_templates.lua#L600

[pale prairie]

Purgatus?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, firestick

[weary crane]

It seems to be for 1 shotting stuff

[lethal folio]

Flamer targets doesn't work that way

its used for ramping up when holding on the same unit

[ripe obsidian]

That makes more sense

[pale prairie]

Ohhhhh

[ripe obsidian]

It confused me because it is the same sort of code as cleaving damage for everything else.

[ripe obsidian]

Do you know where the code is that defines that? I want to look at it.

[dreamy quiver]

i've never been sadder bro

all of my builds

[zealous wing]

yeah but also

[lethal folio]

I don't know I had to ask dev why it was working that way and even they couldn't describe it well.

[zealous wing]

potato had like 28 so it could be worse

😔 it does suck tho

and, its for all 4 human size classes

[patent mango]

i had 1 build and remade it in like 3m

[strong gulch]

28 x4?

[upper sun]

lost my trapper and gunner breakpoints on boltpistol SAD!

[zealous wing]

why so .... why

[strong gulch]

I thought of you when I saw the bistol numbers change

[ripe obsidian]

Unfortunate. It's somewhat weird that it's using the cleave code for scaling damage over time. I am not a fan.

[fresh reef]

How much more survivable is psyker at H40 post patch?

On a scale from 1-10

[zealous wing]

probably too early to tell

its been like, 13 hours

probably higher though

[zinc phoenix]

Fun playing with the new builds but it honestly isn’t that different from before

[zealous wing]

but, psyker survivability is mostly skill

[zinc phoenix]

Biggest change is definitely the riposte on ds5 which is a ton of fun

[zealous wing]

it'll take some time for people to fix builds, and work back up from h30 to h40

[marble crater]

Time to play zealot with throwing knives again

[upper sun]

WAIT

[pale prairie]

a man of culture truly

[upper sun]

IM STUPID

I DONT HAVE ANOINTED

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

ok were happy

i had impassible

wtf is that even

[zealous wing]

ok genuine FGS question

[ripe obsidian]

Ya goofus

[zealous wing]

i've picked up a habit of sometimes l1 l2 bc, sometimes l1 l2 l3 bc, sometimes even l1 bc, depending on where the horde is mostly relative to my positioning... is this... good?

because this is what happens when i brain off, and if i brain on and focus on l1 l2 bc, i fumble, a lot

[cosmic cobalt]

unrelated to fgs but the less you think about it the better

[zealous wing]

i feel like its good, and that it may show i have a better feel for the weapon? but i also overthink and want to avoid megabad habits

[cosmic cobalt]

apply to anything really

[ripe obsidian]

You have put in more effort than me already.

But generally adapting your attack pattern to the situation is preferable to blindly doing the same thing

[zealous wing]

ok

inb4 dom comes in with the steel chair

[ripe obsidian]

I just spam LMB on FGS. Too lazy for such cleverness

[long wharf]

what's the verdict?

[zealous wing]

verdict?

[thorn cedar]

i do the same thing

[analog agate]

L1L2 block cancel is the correct sequence for FGS 8

[jovial juniper]

YES

[zealous wing]

i use 6

[jovial juniper]

Pyromancer

YES

Also like

[dreamy quiver]

anybody have a decent inferno staff + duelling sword or greatsword build?

[jovial juniper]

Marksman Psyker

[dreamy quiver]

preferably venting shriek

[jovial juniper]

10

Always 10

Just don't get hit

[long wharf]

whoa, BB damage is now multiplied?

[thorn cedar]

psykers have tuned into the warp to unlock arithmetic

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-count-six-count6-countsix-gif-25834667

[ripe obsidian]

Converting damage taken into peril and crystalline will increasing headsplosion damage are both things I put forth in this chat more than once. I choose to believe, with no evidence, that Fatshark stole my ideas.

[marble crater]

I agree with this

[zealous wing]

thinking about cutting out PA, its an SG build so its not suuuper necessary for me, especially with Ghost, i want a point to get my hands up on BM instead of BCOB (see if its slower peril decrease than BCOB so i can hover better during horde clearing still without falling below like, 60 or stopping SG until the horde is dead)

what do you think?

[long wharf]

lol "bolter had too much ammo, people were using it too often"

[ripe obsidian]

Dropping PA on SG is valid

[cosmic cobalt]

pa do make gaze have 100% uptime though

[zealous wing]

yeah but i dont really NEEED 100% uptime, at least not for a while

[analog agate]

I facetanked a chaos spawn and took 5 total dmg. Psyker isn’t a glass cannon anymore. Just a cannon

[long wharf]

fuck sake, the Captain enemies almost doubled their health

[zealous wing]

and crushers

say hello to 6500 hp auric crushers

10k hp havoc crushers

[wraith sphinx]

you don't need PA for SG

[long wharf]

welp, there goes Assail having any utility past Malice

[zealous wing]

LMAO

[cosmic cobalt]

boss just seem tankier in general

[zealous wing]

incorrect but ok

[cosmic cobalt]

i got like 210k boss damage in damnation trying to level up mastery

[zealous wing]

i have serious concern for people who think assail is useless just because they cant kill a crusher or a captain with it 😔 must be hard being an irl ogryn

[proper osprey]

How is the soyker looking I’ve only been in zealot chat

[cosmic cobalt]

at least ogryn is genuinely dumb and trying to be better

[zealous wing]

i can almost single mag melt an auric BoN with vraks, so, its going well

[pale prairie]

okay so how do i fix the shaking ammo numbers

[zealous wing]

uh numeric UI?

[spice flame]

show ammo granted -> off

[cosmic cobalt]

yesh it brokey atm

[spice flame]

might be a different setting's name but you can

[cosmic cobalt]

just disable it

it called show ammo/grenade gained iirc

[pale prairie]

bless you

[spice flame]

atchoo

[zealous wing]

:o he really is a psyker

[zealous wing]

oh also, idk if you heard but martyrdom suipsyker is an actual thing you can do now

you can kamikaze yourself, and if you kill an elite with the explosion, no penalty

[pale prairie]

did they change recon las clip size?

[zealous wing]

yea

:(

torrent one is 150 now not 180

[proper osprey]

Yeah I saw that

[zealous wing]

vraks is now 55 in the mag regardless of ammo dump stat

also, not related to psyker,

is the penance highlight scrolling backwards for everyone or just me

[cosmic cobalt]

same here

[zealous wing]

WHY

[cosmic cobalt]

and it not because of mod

[zealous wing]

WHY DID THEY DO THIS

game broken, literally unplayable

[sinful peak]

is there a way to see the old tree

[zealous wing]

old screenshots, i also have a video archive of it, i scroll over everything quickly though so you'd have to pause to read

[sinful peak]

sure that's fine

[celest valve]

good, i hope you get compensated by it being fun to use

[sinful peak]

like I don't remember wtf endurance did

[zealous wing]

also i did forget to remove my build, it was panic saved

[celest valve]

20% toughness damage reduction

during scrier's gaze

[zealous wing]

yeah its integrated now

[lethal folio]

There's a general bug with ammo stat and magazine size.

Its known.

[celest valve]

it was basically a new player perk AFAIK yeah, that was basically skipped always if you knew what you were doing

[zealous wing]

oh its a bug? thank

[lethal folio]

One of the keywords got renamed in one file and not the others

[zealous wing]

oooh

well shit 😂

not as bad as the mortis frame fuckup

the "complete an auric mortis without medicae or ammo pickups"... obtained it from a malice mortis, and i did use an ammo crate

hope theres a hotfix of some sort soon, though idk if it can be redeemed

[long summit]

I've been away from the game for months. I'm looking at the new nodes. Has everyone agreed that Warp Ghost is nuts or am I trippin?

[sturdy reef]

its nuts

[long summit]

alright great. I can still tell what's good.

[sturdy reef]

literally all a positive

[ripe obsidian]

We should try to keep Tyranids out of the weapons

[lunar gyro]

Is it worth keeping warp resist as low as possible or should I push it up to 60 at least (EK staff)

[silver echo]

you only want less than 60 warp resist on purg since it has trouble generating peril

[lunar gyro]

Makes sense

Thanks

[silver echo]

or on a force sword in order to quickly build peril by spamming special

[zinc phoenix]

0 it for free headpops with crys will

kys staff 😂

[silver echo]

now we're cooking

the new meta 0 WR on surge to spam overload

[lunar gyro]

I got a 0 damage relic blade

it's my only prized possession

[thorn cedar]

Warp Ghost is my new best friend.

[zealous wing]

its definitely more spicy assailing

i havent overloaded yet though

[azure sun]

How does it feel? I'm likely going to try and rebuild my DoubleBarrel/Devil Claw melee build on this.

[zealous wing]

ghost? it feels great, though i may need to lessen the peril effects now that i have high peril more often

[azure sun]

Although rebuilding my Recon Assail build is Prio 1

[marble crater]

It feels relaxing and chill, not having to manage peril between encounters

[azure sun]

I'll need to check your build with whatever I come up with then!

[zealous wing]

yeah its just a change to habit, not really changing entire playstyle

[pale prairie]

okay auric is very fun again

and the plasma guys are very irritating

[zealous wing]

i bet

[azure sun]

I likely won't be able to properly play until tomorrow or such. BG3 dropped an update at the same time, and I've got semi-sluggish download speeds.

[marble crater]

Just play Auric yourself, smh

[zealous wing]

no one wants to join me :(

[marble crater]

PUBS

[zealous wing]

:( who's gonna clip themselves barreling me off a cliff :(

[proper osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff33e9c-4fda-4b98-96db-0310794fcb4f/wip-4 immaterial focus and anticipation are they needed now they have better pathing? And how does warp ghost exactly work?

[zealous wing]

it does this

[proper osprey]

How do we feel about twbs on melee psyker

[proper osprey]

Warp ghost?

[wraith sphinx]

twbs?

[proper osprey]

Thy wrath be swift

We got it on psyker lol

[marble crater]

Clearly not a zealot player

[wraith sphinx]

yeah idk what that is

I barely play zealot

[zealous wing]

yes

[proper osprey]

And what about it’s toughness gain? Is it everything?

Like all our sources?

[zealous wing]

fuck if i know i've gotten to play like 4 games today

[thorn cedar]

also holy shit this game looks great with rtx lmao

[marble crater]

Melee attacks can't stun you, also worked on ranged attacks (not sure if that was patched at some point)

[proper osprey]

[zealous wing]

its been a lot of processing

[wraith sphinx]

I did like half the event on auric already, had to switch to the braindead bullgryn build because plasma gunners are nasty

[thorn cedar]

shocking i played this game for two years on ps4 mode

[proper osprey]

I mainly took it for the toughness and stam

[proper osprey]

Yeah it’s good

[wraith sphinx]

so immaterial focus?

I haven't used it today, I was playing right side sykah

[zealous wing]

yay beans took pity on me

[thorn cedar]

Also yeah Immaterial Focus is

oooo just

a spicy meatball

[wraith sphinx]

raw doggin it

[thorn cedar]

honestly that whole quadrant of talents

[marble crater]

hm?

[radiant frigate]

no i was in bed, why

[marble crater]

Probably was getting trolled and he thought of you

[wraith sphinx]

true

[zealous wing]

[wraith sphinx]

rent free elf living

[zealous wing]

time to die horribly and blame the build

o7

[marble crater]

@strong gulch barrel him for me, thank you

[zealous wing]

barrel me yourself you coward

[marble crater]

Next time

[wraith sphinx]

SAH

BARRELING THE SMYKERS SAH

[zealous wing]

itll be easy ill have like 100ping

I AM NOT A FUCKING SMYKER >:(

[royal totem]

wwho are you barreling???? wut?

[zealous wing]

im getting barreled

[royal totem]

ah ......

[wraith sphinx]

smykers, smykers you are all smykers you are all getting barreled

[zealous wing]

clip farming >:D

[strong gulch]

The whole team. Especially Hexis.

[zealous wing]

if im a smyker so are you

we are both gunkers

[royal totem]

ah i see

[zealous wing]

im the baby so i get the most brutalised

[royal totem]

good thing i'm not playing with hexis right now then lmao

[zealous wing]

you could be

[pale prairie]

looks at 900 hours and most of the penances done.....Looks at true level right baby

[zealous wing]

they're hosting on NA east tho

[pale prairie]

super big baby

[zealous wing]

a month a half, dude

[marble crater]

Week

[zealous wing]

i have the bakkan rebreather

[wraith sphinx]

yeah idk what you are talking about

me and hexis started playing last week

[pale prairie]

I started playing toeday

in fact

this is my first game of a computer ever

[wraith sphinx]

yeah sure buddy

[zealous wing]

am baby

[pale prairie]

I just found out how to position my WASDAs

[wraith sphinx]

I saw you griefing noobs with unsanctionedpro guy

[sturdy reef]

more like

[pale prairie]

ive never played with unsactioned

[sturdy reef]

unsanctioned noob

gottem

[pale prairie]

lmao

[wraith sphinx]

fresh out of water

[royal totem]

i just want to play troll builds though 🙁

[sturdy reef]

marty shroudfield with thammer is also cooking

[wraith sphinx]

you can

just run dsword and recon las

[sturdy reef]

even more this patch

[wraith sphinx]

😉

[sturdy reef]

than before

[pale prairie]

So fucking good man

[sturdy reef]

Im gonna run it in havocs

[pale prairie]

DH is terrified right now

[sturdy reef]

one taps turd burglars

[pale prairie]

Back to one hit kills on those fuckers

[sturdy reef]

thats all I want

[marble crater]

I hope clad plays hammer zealot when we play together

[pale prairie]

Damn with ghost I am wondering if I should use a higher WR sword instead of 38

[marble crater]

yes, good call

[sturdy reef]

no

psybomber builds only

[marble crater]

Yes

[sturdy reef]

[proper osprey]

@strong gulch how does the toughness replenish work on warp ghost?

[sturdy reef]

its a replenishment increase

of 25%

wdym

it doesnt replenish on its own

[proper osprey]

What does it effect

[pale prairie]

Per kulis guide

Potato is busy blowing up hexis

[proper osprey]

Ty yeah that’s what I was hoping for

[pale prairie]

I can understand why they added plasma gunners though. Cause outside of their toughness debuff and damage it’s hard to die

[nocturne dust]

Too many nodes I want

[zinc phoenix]

I like low WR sword with the new setup

[wraith sphinx]

thy greed damns you, freak

[sturdy reef]

I like the plasma gunners

[zinc phoenix]

I did bub knight with it and it was good times

[sturdy reef]

also arent affected by suppression which makes em more threatening

[royal totem]

I feel the plasma gunners a bit hard to see

[wraith sphinx]

they are on vent purge

[royal totem]

As a concept idm them

[wraith sphinx]

also their rof could be a tad slower ngl

otherwise they're cool

instant game over if the team ignores them but that's true for all ranged enemies tbh

[sturdy reef]

everything is hard to see on vent purge

[proper osprey]

Dude it’s crazy

[pale prairie]

Yeah but I am trying to hover a few points below 97 to really benefit from Just a Dream. Just did low WR run so I’ll try “high” WR run

[sturdy reef]

plasma gunner weapons light up so they are easier to see compared to others

[proper osprey]

Zealot is so ridiculous

There’s so much good stuff

[wraith sphinx]

yea I saw a bit

[pale prairie]

Damn carapace weakspot helmet

[wraith sphinx]

I very much like the bottom left keystone touchup

[sturdy reef]

yeah but

[nocturne dust]

I haven't even looked at the other classes 😭

[sturdy reef]

sb nukes em

[pale prairie]

Agreed

[sturdy reef]

since their base armor is still flak

[ripe obsidian]

Get them all.

[sturdy reef]

just like maulers

[pale prairie]

Nice

[wraith sphinx]

my fave changes have got to be the vet tree doe

[royal totem]

Ask damnation players what to do if a special appears and their answer is ignore them

[wraith sphinx]

vet is so fucking back

[nocturne dust]

I'm actually thinking of dropping warp rider

[ripe obsidian]

Zealot rework is the best

[zinc phoenix]

HERESY

[ripe obsidian]

You sicken me

[nocturne dust]

Partially for the memes

[pale prairie]

Funny cause a match I just did had 3 vets hahahaha

[sturdy reef]

what the fuck

[zinc phoenix]

🔥 burn him 🔥

[proper osprey]

Zealot gets 100% cooldown for 2 secs after getting weakspot hits

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Rider leads to Warp Ghost

[sturdy reef]

burn the witch

not one of us

[nocturne dust]

wtf

[proper osprey]

Not kills

Hits

[zinc phoenix]

Lmao furries of the faithful on loop

[sturdy reef]

doesnt it have an internal cd

lol

[ripe obsidian]

Is the vet rework that big of an improvement? It looked decent to me, but not amazing. I also don't know Vet well at all

[sturdy reef]

vet rework is very good

now buff the other auras

lol

[wraith sphinx]

marksman focus and skirmisher are usable now

[zinc phoenix]

I like the new vet sword but haven’t looked at the tree

[wraith sphinx]

you can mix and match blitzes and abilities without paying your kidney in point tax

[zinc phoenix]

“Bite size Relic sword” is basically what I asked for

Of course every vet and their mother is using it

[wraith sphinx]

all the good shit like close order drill and iron will are near the top of the tree

[sturdy reef]

new vet sword is ok

the blessings are kinda dog

[wraith sphinx]

pmuch

[zinc phoenix]

At least you get solid performance without having to bang it every 3 seconds

[wraith sphinx]

cool weapon extremely mid blessings

[proper osprey]

I mean

They could have put sunder on it

[ripe obsidian]

No

[proper osprey]

Instead of wrath

[sturdy reef]

lol

so does it refresh or stack

[ripe obsidian]

Hitting an enemy with a melee attack when backstabbing or hitting an enemy's weakspot with a melee attack reduces the remaining ability cooldown by 1s per second for 2.25 seconds additionally to Zealot's base ability cooldown rate of 1s per second. This results in a total cooldown reduction of 4.25s per proc (2.25s from base rate + 2x1s from talent); can be refreshed during active duration.

[zinc phoenix]

Biggest thing I want now is a relic sword style weapon for psyker

[sturdy reef]

a

[zinc phoenix]

But instead of heat its peril

[sturdy reef]

dumb

[zinc phoenix]

And if you let it go too high it pops you

[wraith sphinx]

just use fgs with scriers gaze

[ripe obsidian]

Zealot CDR nodes are mutually exclusive now. Can only have one.

That is the tradeoff.

[zinc phoenix]

Lel I did love doing both

[ripe obsidian]

Martyr zealots just get 50% base cooldown reduction at 25% HP.

[sturdy reef]

Im still gonna use the marty one

[ripe obsidian]

It is the best

[wraith sphinx]

I rly like how blazing piety doesn't have mutually exclusive picks now

[sturdy reef]

because I dont wanna spend the extra points

[wraith sphinx]

fave keystone is very good now

[sturdy reef]

invocation of death getting a nerf was needed

[ripe obsidian]

I am happy that the Zealot rework seems to have given a lot of good nodes to Evis. Not that it's ever gonna be better than Relic Blade

At least I am no longer forced to use throwing knives. I can't aim for shit. Hands are too shaky

[wraith sphinx]

so fucking true

no more throwing slop 🙏

old zealot tree was the fucking worst

[strong gulch]

Nice to see ability not going off dispite spamming the buttons is still alive and well. /s

[wraith sphinx]

in summary all 3 of the reworked trees are extremely tight, love them

vet and zealot were my least played classes because of their godawful trees and I'll def play them more now

[prime elk]

vet could use a second rework

[sturdy reef]

same with weapon swapping

the mods are still good this patch tho

[spark thistle]

god the psyker changes are amazing

[sturdy reef]

for the guarantee weapon swap/ability activation

[wraith sphinx]

yea

[proper osprey]

Tknife is the best

[wraith sphinx]

dc I'm sick and tired of using it

[spark thistle]

managed to create an infinite one button kill loop in auric psykanium this update is amazing

[royal totem]

I....might be in the minority but not a fan of new vet wep

[nocturne dust]

PC still does PC things, lol

[wraith sphinx]

maybe I'll finally do the immolation grenade penance now

[nocturne dust]

why the fracking frack did they give DS a parry 😭

[patent mango]

theres 2 groups the one that thinks pfalchion is worse than psword and the one thats finally free from the psword

[royal totem]

I dont like psword either kekeke

[patent mango]

psword is awful lmao

[strong gulch]

game jus eating inputs

no swapping allowed

[wraith sphinx]

oooo you will do the special l1 l2 l3 chain 50 million times in a mission over and over again oooo you are having fun ooooooo

[patent mango]

helpp!! helpp!!!!!!!!!

[nocturne dust]

Hm

is the unchained psyker node broken

[royal totem]

Im using combat blade on vet.

[thorn cedar]

idk but this new psyker is tiiiiiight

[royal totem]

Considering it on psyker

[nocturne dust]

I need someone who does math

[patent mango]

if you take 10 dmg you take less with it

[jovial juniper]

Uh

Rev rework

[nocturne dust]

cuz I'm not taking health damage while I have toughness in the psykh with the unchained node

[jovial juniper]

Just made it a completely different tier

Actually Xiiig got crazier

Top tier horde clear

[patent mango]

are chains weapons actually good now

[jovial juniper]

Hits carapace for 6k damage

[royal totem]

What did they change about rev?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Arguably so

[patent mango]

no hecking way

[nocturne dust]

Let's gooooooooooo

[patent mango]

lets goooo

[pale prairie]

The animation length changes depending on enemy hp. If they die fast it ends faster if it takes longer than….

[nocturne dust]

Pay no attention to the numbers freaking out in the corner

[patent mango]

oh youcan disable that

its in the ammo part of numeric ui config

[pale prairie]

Damn what all you got running?

[pale prairie]

disable numeric UI grenade and ammo Pickup

[ripe obsidian]

How good is it in practice for the evis XV?

[zealous wing]

what is being shown here?

[strong gulch]

They changed the lighting in this update. My hair is so shiny it looks grey.

[nocturne dust]

Surviving an overhead

[zealous wing]

or just, not crusher oneshot

i see

[wraith sphinx]

they BLEACHED our hairs!!

[strong gulch]

madge

[wraith sphinx]

ragege

[pale prairie]

It only affects those who’ve been here longer than a year

[strong gulch]

we are 3/4 if someone want in

[wraith sphinx]

why'd you self report like that

[wraith sphinx]

also unfortunately it's 2 am and I'm heading to bed, have fun tho

[zealous wing]

i will say, NA east was a bit rubberbandy, but all things considered i feel i did at least ok

[pale prairie]

Nice not even with One with the Warp

[nocturne dust]

Oh that's a good point, I should grab that one too

[pale prairie]

Bruh my tree is gross

[zealous wing]

having used FGS so long i know its petterns enough that i can ignore rubberbanding for the most part

[nocturne dust]

I don't have enough node points 😭

[strong gulch]

NA east is funny.

Sometimes the ping if better is playing with EU folks.

Why is it sometimes over 100 ping on NA east for NA east people?? idk

[nocturne dust]

That's every server for me

[patent mango]

warp ghost time

who needs warp unbound anyways ican just peril and hecking die instead

[pale prairie]

Just balls to the wall on fat defense. Want to see how this rides before META takes hold

[patent mango]

tank psyker tank psyker

[nocturne dust]

I do want the chonk

[pale prairie]

I am seriously debating changing to true aim cause of how high peril I constantly am

[pale prairie]

Dead net neutrality? I dunno

[fierce crest]

im running true aim with revo for biggest crits

[ripe obsidian]

It has been ages since I last saw a revolver in the wild

[pale prairie]

Same

[fierce crest]

it is probably just worse bistol but i like it

[pale prairie]

I dunno breakpoints have been shattered

[nocturne dust]

Still good, people just like 🅱️istol. Fools.

Well, that and it doesn't hit BPs in Havoc

[ripe obsidian]

A lot of weapons will need tweaks to fill roles.

I think the meta is gonna be kinda narrow for a while until more weapon changes happen

[nocturne dust]

Talent trees are more open at least

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

Win some, lose some

I think EK and Voidstrike are the big losers for Staffker

But Inferno and Voidblast are fine

[fierce crest]

inferno king of breakpoints

[nocturne dust]

Inferno is the worst at BPs

[ripe obsidian]

What is a breakpoint? I just light things on fire

[nocturne dust]

Takes 10 billion hits just to kill a poxwalker, smh my head

[fierce crest]

% wise its the best tho

[pale prairie]

Honestly I think those inferno Psykers are dead weight

[ripe obsidian]

Rude.

[fierce crest]

revolver needing an extra shot is like 50% more shot

[pale prairie]

Just eating all the yellow numbers but still demanding meat shields

[fierce crest]

inferno is like 10% more shot

[nocturne dust]

-# Voidstrike? That staff that explodes the floor?

[fierce crest]

simple math

[pale prairie]

They think their infinite cleave makes them better than us!

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[nocturne dust]

So many broken mods 😭

[ripe obsidian]

I am only better than the charred corpses at my feet.

[pale prairie]

Mine are working fine

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm acceptable

[gray juniper]

Yes

Cleave. Reposition. Cleave. Reposition. Cleave. Prosper

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-no-no-40k-gif-24271093

[nocturne dust]

Oh I think unchained works for when you're downed

I gained peril while downed

Lovely Darktide experience of joining a game to being on fire

[fierce crest]

why does the page change when he flips the book around

heresy

[ripe obsidian]

When I am able to log in, my first like 3 hours will just be remaking builds

[heady shell]

Does “penetration of the soul” work? Is it worth taking?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes and no.

It works. But practically every warp attack has such good armor damage modifiers that rending is only at 1/4 effectiveness.

If it were brittleness, it might be worth it. As it stands, it is not.

Unless you really, really want to kill crushers

With a staff

[fierce crest]

assail the crushers

[ripe obsidian]

It is important to remember that if your armor damage modifier is >=100%, rending and brittleness only at 1% of damage per 4% of their effect.

[patent mango]

inferno psyker this trauma psyker that wheres the crystalline will psykers

[ripe obsidian]

Hello

[heady shell]

I understand, i never really used it but with the rework it was an option so i was curious but that makes sense, will leave it for somethin else

[fierce crest]

how BB fare vs new plas gunners

[gray juniper]

I’ve long suspected that game co.s’ consolidate NA central (and maybe NA west) people into NA east servers when active numbers are low

[ripe obsidian]

Among other, similar messages.

[patent mango]

marty has spread to a 2nd class

its grown strongeer

[ripe obsidian]

Etc.

[gray juniper]

Don’t some old tricks still work, like I’ve been attempting to flame crushers then go in for the finish with uncanny sword. something is making them go down fast at least

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, but once you hit 100% ADM, the leftover rending from Uncanny is 25% effectiveness

Uncanny is like 120% at max stacks?

[gray juniper]

Hmm kinda yuck?

[ripe obsidian]

So you'd get 90% of that, since warpfire ADM is 10%, I think. Then the remaining 30% is actually 7.5%

[strong gulch]

@zealous wing That was my last one.

[zealous wing]

okii

ty for inviting me

[strong gulch]

okri might do o ne more

[patent mango]

who up playing Warhammer Darktide™

and has a slot

[zealous wing]

we are, auric, currently NA east server, one slot

[strong gulch]

I've had no specials audio cues for the last 2 games and it's making me upset.

[zealous wing]

oooof

[patent mango]

maybb your char went deaf

8725919421

[strong gulch]

oh you right

[patent mango]

my fashar code

[zealous wing]

hopefully relaunch would help

[ripe obsidian]

I will be online if and when my cat gets off my lap

[zealous wing]

also not sure who just joined

so no slot for the next game if bean comes back

[strong gulch]

my partner's friend

[zealous wing]

but ill still be on

[patent mango]

ok

imma just play a pub match or smth

[zealous wing]

im in EU though so idk if that will change tons

[strong gulch]

there is room for a 4th

[zealous wing]

oh you are done ?

[strong gulch]

yeah

[zealous wing]

okii

[patent mango]

oh

[zealous wing]

thanks again bean youre awesome

[patent mango]

well here code 8725919421

[jovial juniper]

Honestly

Hard to notice

Bloodthirsty Evis15 is a beast

If anything it just made flesh ttk better

[patent mango]

funny

i gotta check patch notes on chain weps

[strong gulch]

wtf

[patent mango]

mod

[strong gulch]

[zealous wing]

thats my steam PFP

[patent mango]

i heard disabling char rendering in frames helps with perfomance then i found taht mod and its funny

[zealous wing]

yeah apparently it gave someone nightmares

which is fitting, because it was from one of mine

[patent mango]

i thought it was fred fastbear

[zealous wing]

no its more reminicent of eyeless jack

minus the tears

well, specifically his mask

[patent mango]

oh my god i didnt have to load for 30m

[jovial juniper]

It takes 3 ticks to kill a reaper

2 ticks to kill a Rager

This is of course assuming you have bt up

[tacit minnow]

https://streamable.com/bpba06

someone good at game design please help me balance this. my player retention is dying

[patent mango]

the only solution is buffing scriers gaze

[tacit minnow]

understood, setting scriers gaze to 100% crit chance

[patent mango]

🙏

[sacred crane]

Does just a dream apply to toughness as well?

Or only health

[patent mango]

just health

[tacit minnow]

toughness

[cosmic terrace]

Does it give you 25% damage reduction with its wording or just add peril to the damage you take?

[patent mango]

DR but idk the math exactly

[cosmic terrace]

Is souldrinker any good now?

[patent mango]

i think it is

[tacit minnow]

yes

its main awkward quirk was removed

[cosmic terrace]

Where do you see these?

[tacit minnow]

now its free toughness and crit chance for staff builds that use soulblaze

[strong gulch]

kuli guide in the pins

[tacit minnow]

wholesome !!

[strong gulch]

psyker mechanics

[cosmic terrace]

Thank you

[patent mango]

i gotta check that myself too

[tacit minnow]

some shit like this on an inferno or trauma staff build and you'll never die if you're even a little bit competant

[ripe obsidian]

Both.

[patent mango]

its both?

[ripe obsidian]

Always was. Just wasn't worth the point tax

[patent mango]

i havent seen my peril go up on toughness dmg so far

[ripe obsidian]

Kuli says it is both

[strong gulch]

it can refresh now

idk when it was buffed

[ripe obsidian]

PotS >:(

[thorn cedar]

just a fucken insane cluster

[tacit minnow]

yeah you can prob drop it who cares

[patent mango]

pots meta

[tacit minnow]

i figured you could do some gross shit with pene flame PotS for 40% rending dots or whatever

[ripe obsidian]

PotS is garbage because warp attacks already have insane ADMs

[ripe obsidian]

That is not actually useful.

It would only be a 10% damage boost at most

[tacit minnow]

bet then just take empath evasion

[ripe obsidian]

Because soulblaze already has like 150% ADMs

Soulblaze ADMs are actually really stupid

[analog agate]

Pots = bad. Well, still bad.

[ripe obsidian]

PotS as brittleness would be interesting

As rending, bleh

[strong gulch]

I keep thinking it's brittleness, then I read rending and get sad

[tacit minnow]

yes!!!! the ininfite ammo rasnged class applying brittleness without a blessing slot!!! epic!!!

[ripe obsidian]

Interesting doesn't mean balanced

[patent mango]

make sg apply brittleness

[analog agate]

Don’t tempt fs. They already made it stupid strong for no reason

[thorn cedar]

make warp slice tie together the shoelaces of anyone who survives

[patent mango]

tempt? its already in the works

[patent mango]

yeah thats right lol

i didnt notice it befo

[ripe obsidian]

No, no, I can see it. You're scrying which part of an enemy is weakest and highlighting it for your team

[strong gulch]

dregs won't be affected

they are the shoeless

[thorn cedar]

dregs instead have their pants drop to their ankles

and theyre wearing really embarrasing white underwear with red hearts with pictures of nurgle in em

[patent mango]

canon

[zealous wing]

you say that like they made it 50x stronger

[patent mango]

well t hey didnt do that just yet

[ripe obsidian]

SG needs... four more buffs.

[tacit minnow]

also kinetic flayer even more of a trap pick since its now guaranteed to trigger demonhosts 🥀

[patent mango]

thats peak tho

[analog agate]

They made it too strong already with the last main update. Ability to use it like shriek. So stupid