psyker-class

[wraith sphinx]

I have never seen a pub vet manage that

[potent echo]

Probably console bodyshot billy

[obtuse dome]

Recon las is silly ammo efficient if you run out youre wasting it😂

[wraith sphinx]

They always hoover up all the ammo pickups and bitch about other classes using ranged

[wraith sphinx]

Ye ik

[obtuse dome]

Like i never run out and i might need one big ammo pickup for the entire mission

[potent echo]

If you go for headshots and use infernus cleverly you can easily x3 your ammo efficiency

[obtuse dome]

And i just shoot everything idk how people use so much ammo

[wraith sphinx]

That reminded me I should change my handle a bit

[potent echo]

Bodyshot and shooting ragdolls

[obtuse dome]

I think heavy bolter is the worst tho in that regard

Players cant ads to save their life

[potent echo]

The new one has even less ammo

And even more spammy potential

[wraith sphinx]

Hyup gun psyker was less OP back in my day...

[obtuse dome]

Still pretty pumped for the update ngl

[wraith sphinx]

Yeah same

[obtuse dome]

Cant wait to get jome

[potent echo]

My zealot might finally move past level 200

[wraith sphinx]

I don't give much of a shit about the overtuned thing being further overtuned because I know what everyone else will do once they log on

MY DREAM
MY RULES
MY SHIELD

[obtuse dome]

Lol i didnt read the patchnores yet😂

[potent echo]

I don't think there are

[wraith sphinx]

None yet

Patch is live in 3 ish hours?

[obtuse dome]

Ah ok

[potent echo]

It's gonna be so long

Also I heard power maul got buffed

[obtuse dome]

I still gotta work anyway so its fine

[wraith sphinx]

I'm also just glad vet and zealot trees arent shit anymore

[potent echo]

Inb4 the buildTM 2

[wraith sphinx]

Nah not likely

Point tax is gone so there would be no such thing

[potent echo]

Momentum having 20 stacks and lasting 10 seconds sounds kinda funny

Also -75% threat with backstabs

[wraith sphinx]

Skirmisher might actually be good now

Free damage for just slidespamming

[potent echo]

Is that on vet?

[wraith sphinx]

Yes

[potent echo]

Scuffed sliding breakpoints

[wraith sphinx]

Crusher hp buff will scuff all breakpoint calculations anyway 😭

Buffing the strongest enemy game is certainly a choice especially with how common crusher clown cars still are

[summer prairie]

there's going to be fewer of them

[potent echo]

Do we have any concrete info on that

I know there was an old post that listed every possible patrol list

[summer prairie]

probably hard to quantify even if you know how much the spawn cost has been increased, would have to track it with power di or something to know for sure. Not sure if they changed the patrols or just the point cost

[cosmic sigil]

are we cooking?

with all the updates, I am paralyzed by choice

[quartz barn]

Tbf giving crushers more health is actually a good thing

[fiery stratus]

Reducing the number isn't

[quartz barn]

Theres so many weapons that either oneshot or twoshot them that it trivializes their purpose

[fiery stratus]

This is all just a guise to turn down enemy density for console nerds

[quartz barn]

I mean ye fair

Inb4 enemy density mod thats serverwide

Would actually be cool to play like the good ol broken director days

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/tablestory-kingmakers-myre-lyr-otherworld-of-din-gif-5348197056189405164

we're sorry, thats not something we can allow because fatshark can't make money from it

[gilded hare]

tbf Fatshark makes so many changes that lose money anyways...

[fiery stratus]

Can't tell them that, management knows the business strategy

[obtuse dome]

Sad times

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[quartz barn]

Wait less enemies = i get to clear rooms faster

So ill get flamed more for running fgs + scriers

[wraith sphinx]

fuck yes...

[radiant frigate]

lowered enemy density? hidden wizard nerf

melee psyker gang rise up

[copper jay]

Maybe voidblast staff will become the new Meta ...

[potent echo]

Voidblast alternate between lmb and RMB

[cosmic cobalt]

sex

[vernal temple]

Kinetic Flayer

• Chance 10% → 100%
• Cooldown 15 → 12
• Now Excludes Poxbursters

YES!

best decision ever

[cosmic cobalt]

cant wait until all my mod are broken and i have to remove them

[fiery stratus]

1 click to turn off mods in vortex cant relate

[cosmic cobalt]

imagine using vortex

[gray juniper]

Good morning everyone

Guys. Guys. Guys. We are so back

[cosmic cobalt]

im gonna wait until mods update ig

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah youre late

[gray juniper]

Late by ten minutes?

[idle plover]

finally speedrunner aura is gone

[gray juniper]

I know dear god

Like a different game with just a few changes

[gray juniper]

Arbites mains in shambles today

We have to stop shit posting so recklessly. They listened to sin

[idle plover]

still not as ridiculous as kf2 players reactions to nerfs

[gray juniper]

Ngl I like the no damage for kamikaze part. My martyrdom psyker has become real

[icy breach]

Kinetic Flayer
Chance 10% → 100%
Cooldown 15 → 12
Now Excludes Poxbursters
Fucking finally

[potent echo]

I thought I read "last free update" from news bulletin

What's endurance from SG

[zealous wing]

TDR

[idle plover]

20 toughness damage reduction while gaze is active

[zealous wing]

its merged into base

[idle plover]

is now base

[zealous wing]

i literally woke up to the update being 20 minutes ago

i am fucking ready

[potent echo]

Oh the tooltips on games lantern are updated

Cool

[gray juniper]

Look, I swear it did before as long as you didn’t attack them consecutively. But yes now we can all rest safely in kinetic flayers arms

[zealous wing]

im literally not gonna read the patchnotes for a while. is there anything urgent as hell i need to know

[gray juniper]

I dare say we’re going to see some play versatility again

[zealous wing]

(like, an hour or two, get situated)

[potent echo]

I'll read it 👀

[gray juniper]

I’m not going to sweat metas and just have fun

There’s obviously been enough changes that if you’re a vet of previous baseline that this should make everything more sleek

[potent echo]

Oo penetration now gives up to 20% rending

Idk if it's only on warp damage

[quartz barn]

The suicide bomber build is real

[gray juniper]

I am a visionary and trend setter

Sin is also lead game designer now apparently

[quartz barn]

But who is the real shitposter

[potent echo]

New malice build just dropped

[gray juniper]

It’s definitely sin

Someone at shark saw his screed and had a mind ‘gasm

[quartz barn]

Us or the fs dev?

Because we'll see some people blow themselves up on purpose to min max dmg

[gray juniper]

I’ll tell you right now it’s probably going to be me

[swift eagle]

whys it say the update is out now if it aint out?

[quartz barn]

Now we just need to gaslight people into doing that kill x elites penance by getting the kills one by one

[marble crater]

Everyone who has been playing for a month is reset to level 1

[weary crane]

Noice

[mental kayak]

i'm too dumb for this update

i understand previous

now a lot change

me confused

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191125925933350985/1197769596866924564/GRVNZEBOMA_-_1748105504864317672.gif

[vernal temple]

Crystalline Will

• New: +100% Overload Damage
• New: +25% Overload Radius
• New: If overload kills an Elite Enemy, you don’t take corruption damage.

so now all those newbies that overload a bazillion times per mission have a chance to make a name for themselves

[gray juniper]

Downside; people are going to be surprised when a psyker overloads and actually stays down

[vernal temple]

Just don't overload

[marble crater]

Not that surprised, I have 0 expectations towards random pubs

[vernal temple]

Someone else gets pounced by a hound - you immediately rush to save them
You get pounced by a hound - suddenly the entire team goes blind and deaf

[potent echo]

20% rending on assails

[mental kayak]

i always look for dog and net eretic

if treat good team team treat you good

[marble crater]

I will turn towards them and shriek, if they are in range: good, if not: sucks for them

[crude flare]

Update is out on Xbox, restart if having issues

[marble crater]

Yay

[vernal temple]

I always try to treat my teams well, but I've been munched to death by hounds while teammates are in arms reach more times than I'd like to admit.

[potent echo]

Also idk how was here earlier saying ogryn got minor buffs

[mental kayak]

they blind

[crude flare]

No fr, I always save people just to be ignored ;;

[potent echo]

They literally got a 50% increase to stam regen

[marble crater]

12 GB update. not bad

[crude flare]

What are the big buffs that y'all are seeing?

[granite kelp]

the brain burst on attack against elites are now not on a 10% chance and cooldown but is guaranteed and just on a cooldown

brain burst stocks are hella up

[marble crater]

Gaze was buffed, Quietude was buffed, Warp Expenditure was mega buffed, DD was buffed, Kinetic Flayer was buffed, talent tree was buffed with new nodes, I think most people are looking forward to the - passive quell speed +2 stam and +25% toughness regen talent

[granite kelp]

the what now

[crude flare]

Oh that does seem good. I also saw that damage buffs affect brain burst multiplicatively?

[vernal temple]

alright, lets see how many of my mods are broken

[summer prairie]

BB buffed a bit too, though may not make up for the increased health pools for some enemies

[granite kelp]

oh yeah i plan on popping scriers and psy-nuking a plague ogryn in 3 brainbursts

[marble crater]

Talent that gives you 2 stamina, +25% toughness regen and makes your peril decrease very slowly if you are not actually active quelling

[mental kayak]

mods are scary

[crude flare]

That was what I was using lol. I'm interested to see if smite is any good now too

[gray juniper]

Let’s goooo

[crude flare]

(it was already good)

[low sigil]

Smite is now just good utility

The +1 chain ability is now part of the baseline

[granite kelp]

awww i thought it was the opposite, you get faster passive peril quelling but active quelling is basically slow as hell

[vernal temple]

yeah, game crashes immediately upon launch lmao

well that sucks

[gray juniper]

BB stocks are peaked on the market. This is my dream for BB to finally get its shine

[marble crater]

This is better, you can stay at high peril between fights without having to do anything

[idle aurora]

Bruh, i thought that alternative node to warpfire stacks on shriek will finally be good, nope

[granite kelp]

they removed the bullshit 10% chance, i can finally bonk a gunner on the head with my staff and his head detonates

[gray juniper]

Ngl I wish they didn’t

[granite kelp]

also wait

[low sigil]

Now every ability has its niche

Smite if you have long range weapons, BB if you don't, assail if you're weird

[granite kelp]

isnt the new crystal mean now instead psykers hating ragers now we love them cause we can unload everything, overload peril and walk unscathed cause we nuked a rager

[zealous wing]

the fuck does gunker use smite for

[low sigil]

as an "oh shit" ability I guess

[zealous wing]

thats what melee is for

smite is a bad habit teacher

[low sigil]

or if you're running a staff scryers build you can pop it to stun a horde for 20 seconds

[granite kelp]

if you are stacking peril generation reduction you have the side effect of being able to hold smite long enough to cook a crusher like tinfoil wrapped potato

[zealous wing]

why the fuck would i kill shit slowly, or stun them, when they can be dead

[low sigil]

it's like an ogryn frag bomb with extra steps

[glacial vapor]

Nice, safe from the occasional burster moment

[granite kelp]

idk man i enjoy watching it twitch in agony until its brains turn to mush and it collapses

[gray juniper]

Smite is still going to be for players scared to play the game

[vernal temple]

well damn, idk which mods cause the game to crash on launch, but I guess it's back to base game for now

[low sigil]

It saved me from a pickle in an auric maelstrom game once when I stunned everything and the resident ogryn bonked everything to death

so smite is the pocket pick now

[zealous wing]

so you stand still scared shitless instead of killing shit?

thats what smite does

[granite kelp]

why is assail for weird psykers, i always saw it as "go my shard" where i huck 7 of them into a flank thats approaching and continue with the main horde

[zealous wing]

what mods do you have? perhaps i can help narrow it down

[icy breach]

Don't worry; you don't need to deflect no more cause the issue is fixed

[low sigil]

I run voidstrike staff so I can't speak for gunpsyker

[zealous wing]

oh

that explains some shit

[gray juniper]

By gones be by gones bro

[vernal temple]

probably the localization stuff or whatever

[zealous wing]

assail is for taking out a special while actively clearing a horde with your melee

[summer prairie]

I think the framework needs an update

[zealous wing]

you throw 3 or 4 really quick and go back to melee, and swing while aiming them

[granite kelp]

it pierces, i toss a handful into the horde and cleave the specials skull in myself

[low sigil]

RIP voidstrike oneshotting crushers doe

[glacial vapor]

"New Talents"

"One with the warp"

[low sigil]

I'll miss the dopamine hit of that

[zealous wing]

i have these four and also crashed

[granite kelp]

are we straining fatsharks servers for the update, its just not downloading properly

[zealous wing]

oh and numericUI

[summer prairie]

You are likely going to crash even with an empty mod file

[zealous wing]

it released an hour ago so maybe

[vernal temple]

I think DT Mod Loader needs an update in general and it's not down to any specific mods

[zealous wing]

i loaded fine without mods then crashed once i toggled them

[granite kelp]

it does not wanna download

[marble crater]

"After being assisted by a teammate, players will now have 1 second of damage immunity and 3 seconds of 50% Toughness and Health damage reduction. "
Nice, no more dying when being rezzed in fire

[summer prairie]

An empty file isn't the same as mods disabled

[gray juniper]

Server crash at start up

[zealous wing]

THIS is fucking valuable

[tulip kettle]

ITS REAL

[gray juniper]

Anyone wanna play mechwarrior mercs in the meantime?

[granite kelp]

i can finally not get killed by a well-meaning ogryn who seared his balls to get me up

[zealous wing]

YES we get to have suipsyker

[spice flame]

Tho I knew it, it's gonna take a while to remake of all my builds eeeeeeh

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-oh-hi-mark-hey-mark-gif-17296134

[potent echo]

Psyker players have an extra unique bonus due to them being the original carriers of this weapon: at the cost of 4% Peril, they gain significantly increased Riposte attack strength.

[granite kelp]

imagine you are some heretic leader and some mumbling dumbass talking about a beloved or something waddles up to you while literally emitting stink fumes and detonates with the force of a dozen krak grenades

[potent echo]

Psyker duelling sword generates peril now lol

[gray juniper]

“Wow thanks arbitrator”

[zealous wing]

oh yeah

[granite kelp]

excuse me what

[zealous wing]

that wouldve also been nice when gunners were shooting sut and i had to kill them first before res

[granite kelp]

how much are we talking

[gray juniper]

Sin did it. I memed marty psyker into reality too

[granite kelp]

wait, now we can quell with the duel sword

thats huge

[potent echo]

Idk about that

But duelling sword big nerf

It's like a minimum 20% damage down from the heavy stabs

[spice flame]

good

[low sigil]

good

[potent echo]

Not including adm nerfs

Which are also huge

[gray juniper]

1/2 + wounds now actually an option for psyker. You can be like “oops I missed the window” or someone else kills the elite before you blow up. Life insurance

[potent echo]

Now it's a parry weapon

Bolter ammo decreased for no reason

Okay

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/raised-eyebrows-good-jocko-willink-gif-5513484

*not about bolter though

[zealous wing]

new mark, tho

[tacit stump]

we have now explosive bolter and boltpistol

[summer prairie]

Kuli's guide has some updates now, e.g. Immaterial focus stun immunity

Just a dream

[low sigil]

just a dream seems to be a gunpsyker trait

[summer prairie]

Not sure what the first line of 2) means

[wraith sphinx]

25% damage resistance while below critical peril?

[zealous wing]

AHHHHHHHHHHH

FGS COSMETIC

i hope its fucking decent

[granite kelp]

HOLY SHIT

[zealous wing]

also, AHH
FUCKING FINALLY 😭 😭

[granite kelp]

zealot will finally not run away

[low sigil]

Bots will no longer ignite barrels

[zealous wing]

BOTS WILL NO LONGER STEAL THE FUCKING MEDICAE IN MORTIS

[marble crater]

PC - KF loop still works, since it was brought up yesterday

[low sigil]

They should re-enable it if they run back the explosive barrels event

[zealous wing]

I CAN SOLO MORTIS

i am genuinely happy

[potent echo]

Wow FGS now has fire camo

[zealous wing]

i dont need to rely on people to have fun in mortis

[potent echo]

Thanks fatshark 🥹

[gray juniper]

It it seems like some build mistakes would otherwise leave you attack stunned in a high peril loop

[gray juniper]

It’s the same skin that’s available for the small swords. I like the crucis night one tbh

[tulip kettle]

there is just a lot to take in here isnt there, waow

[potent echo]

Idk if just a dream is better than just one with the warp and other similar talents

[marble crater]

They are not there for me

[potent echo]

Not enough points for all these skills

[zealous wing]

reward frame honestly looks good imo

(definitely not biased as orange is my favourite colour)

[low sigil]

Putting that on my veteran character for sure

[zealous wing]

basegame has a dodgecounter

[potent echo]

Making new builds for 3 characters

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865003511623188480/1332112315964850320/ezgif.com-gif-maker_11-1.gif

[zealous wing]

also its an actual mission board, not just, do 10 missions

[thorn cedar]

"Smite
Lightning Storm - Removed and made baseline."

called it, im so fucken smart

[zealous wing]

you have to actually KILL

[potent echo]

I forgor which one is lightning storm

[thorn cedar]

+1 jump and other stuff

[marble crater]

Extra jump

[potent echo]

Is it the 10% extra damage or more jumps

Understandable

[marble crater]

The good talent is baseline now

[thorn cedar]

so smite is even better with less commitment

[potent echo]

It generates much more peril now though

[marble crater]

Don't tell the would be smykers

[thorn cedar]

thats fair though cause its like, 30% more efficient at baseline

[granite kelp]

psyker gets 25% damage reduction, new ogryn

[low sigil]

I can see runs ending because people climb over each other to kill the plasma dudes

[potent echo]

I have no idea what they mean by critical peril

100%?

[low sigil]

yup

[tulip kettle]

97% + is critical

[gray juniper]

Yes

[summer prairie]

Kuli's guide says 97

[granite kelp]

isnt it 95%+

[potent echo]

So I can technically feather at 97%

[zealous wing]

2nd psyker was pointless in the end

[summer prairie]

buuut peril resistance can modify the treshold for some things at least

[gray juniper]

Gonna jump in on heresy to practice the new trees

[zealous wing]

beware tankier crushers

[tulip kettle]

tankier crushers + DS nerfs

[potent echo]

Should just do base damn to get used to the new health pools

[tulip kettle]

awesome

[granite kelp]

prepare to see psykers randomly and violently detonate in missions for the next week

[tulip kettle]

meanwhile FGS still gonna bonk

[low sigil]

divine wind psykers

[potent echo]

FGS buff

Because we now have +20% ogryn

[gray juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-harrelson-crying-money-wipe-tears-rich-gif-16201471

[deft stump]

Just use crystalline will and blow up next to shotgunner hordes.

[potent echo]

It's over

[low sigil]

The warpahadeen

[granite kelp]

exactly

[tulip kettle]

ALLAHU EMPEROR

[zealous wing]

damn commissary hasnt updated yet

:(

[potent echo]

I feel like the problem will be you are still getting shot to shit and you can't dodge

[zealous wing]

i want the fucking FGS cosmetic god damn it

[tulip kettle]

but you see it wont matter

[gray juniper]

FGS still KING OF THE HILL

[potent echo]

Don't you still take full damage while in PotW

[low sigil]

wait youre not immune during the ackbar-ing?

[potent echo]

Ofc not?

[deft stump]

Just go boom faster.

[tulip kettle]

because now we have insane TDR and bonus stams

[gray juniper]

Bro 😭

[granite kelp]

but i am now 100% detonating myself whenever the

pulls up

[patent steeple]

soooo... what you are saying is that this is also a nerf to EK/Vstrike builds that don't use a good anti-armour weapon...?

[tulip kettle]

and Toughness over time out the wazoo

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[weary crane]

Brain Rupture

Damage increase is now calculated as a Multiplier (will increase all subsequent bonuses)

It didn't before??????

[novel yoke]

ayo???

[tulip kettle]

yes it didnt which was garbage

[granite kelp]

yeah we get 25% damage reduction now

[deft stump]

Meleeker things, I guess?

[novel yoke]

god I really needed that

[weary crane]

So that means brain rupture will actually hit havoc 40 breakpoints

[fringe tangle]

That's pretty nice.

[humble skiff]

i hate that they reduced the skill ceiling and nerfed some stuff

[potent echo]

Meleeker wants to be at critical all the time though

[deft stump]

Well, now you are hitting critical always.

[fringe tangle]

Yeah abuse the crap out of scriers gaze

[tulip kettle]

i think the weirdest thing is going to be that we have a lot of "generate toughness over time" stuff

and also the HEAVY psyk aura nerfs that arent being discussed yet

[potent echo]

Imagine if those effects dont stack

Fatshark gonna troll all of us

[marble crater]

We discussed them yesterday, while you weren't here

[tulip kettle]

i have been being an adult for a week, i apologise

[potent echo]

I play assailker so I almost never used psykaura

[patent steeple]

so is psyk aura worse than wildfire now?

[potent echo]

Take both

Take all

[tulip kettle]

i mean wildfire is just always situational

THOUGH

with the KF and BR buffs i think wildfire got better

[swift eagle]

CDR has been largely nerfed accross the board to cull ability spam builds from what I saw.

[wraith sphinx]

new voice lines

[potent echo]

Martyr has crazy cooldown reduction

[novel yoke]

you win some you lose some, personally im happy on a lot of the vet changes they made

[weary crane]

YES KINETIC FLAYER EXCLUDE BURSTERS NOW

[novel yoke]

fr? damn

[deft stump]

I mean, it was never shout being op, just the other two not being up to snuff.

[tulip kettle]

excludes bursters, procs more frequently, BR does more damage

[potent echo]

I might finally use vet stealth now

[deft stump]

Especially if you compare to oggy/arby baseline.

[weary crane]

Now we just need it to crit

[gray juniper]

Oh god what did they do?

[potent echo]

It only affects yourself now

[gray juniper]

Bro. Wtf

[potent echo]

Also it's a cooldown speed increase

Not a flat reduction

[weary crane]

Rip infinite ability regen

[tulip kettle]

yeah it cant proc more than once essentially

[potent echo]

You would stop spamming F

[gray juniper]

Arrrrgggg

[potent echo]

[deft stump]

Is now also 100% CDR speed for 3 secs.

[novel yoke]

lowkey I cant remember the exact stats of the last ones, did they buff the other two or nerf shriek

or both

[tulip kettle]

before you killed 5 elites and got 20% off your cd

now you will get 100% cdr rate for 4 seconds non stacking

[weary crane]

Vet cooldown has been nerfed too so basically no more gold toughness spam

[tulip kettle]

its a pretty heavy nerf

[deft stump]

No, vet shout. They just buffed the other two.

[potent echo]

But now I can pick it while picking assail gaze

[tulip kettle]

BUT

[gray juniper]

H-how is my shriek. Please tell me shriek is ok. I should’ve read the whole update

[tulip kettle]

BUT

[novel yoke]

mb I forgor, yeah I heard about that one

[fiery stratus]

And plasma gunners delete gold toughness, so that's what theyre trying to do to balance

[tulip kettle]

CD on double walls maybe even better

[weary crane]

Hasn't changed

[swift eagle]

I think the CDR changes are funny, because in one way people have been stating they're not happy about the buffs cause stronger classes, but then also not happy with the loss of CDR, which in a way is saying "Get better at using other things instead of just ability spam through a map"

[tulip kettle]

i mean shriek itself is ok but its much less spammable

[fiery stratus]

All the trees as a whole are better, stronger, and more diverse. That's about all that needs to be said

[potent echo]

Noooo but I wanna press F 99 times per game

[tulip kettle]

im excited to try BB main weapon build

[novel yoke]

the aura still says allies in coherency?

[tulip kettle]

burst ALL the things

[low sigil]

Will anyone try the non-bubble shields now?

[weary crane]

Bust it all

[potent echo]

That's kinetic presence

[tulip kettle]

thats a different thing

[weary crane]

Yes

[low sigil]

With technically 100% uptime

[potent echo]

Not psykaura

Psykinetic aura

It's below

[fiery stratus]

People used regular shields before, theyre good for stopping mutants and bursters and shit, not super common granted

[weary crane]

Wall of shields seems fun

[tulip kettle]

and yes double walls + BR with both nodes

[novel yoke]

huh

[tulip kettle]

seems spicy

psykinetics aura is not seers presence

they are 2 different talents

[plucky flax]

Thats surge nerf

[zealous wing]

yall this feels GLORIOUS

[swift eagle]

I gotta wonder now that the new wall shield has two charges can we place two walls at the same time?

[swift eagle]

with the talent obviously

[deft stump]

Eh, you always go with 2 vets if you wanted to safely chain it.

[novel yoke]

it also says coherency

[marble crater]

Yes, on the other hand you will always have the 6 warp charge talent now, so you get more cooldown reduction from there.
Which doesn't help the cooldown of your allies, which might be a bigger problem, but meh

[tulip kettle]

sorry i mean kinetic presence

[summer prairie]

Kuli's guide doesn't say it only works for the psyker, but he might not know about it yet

[potent echo]

No it's other talent directly below

[weary crane]

TBF Marty zealot will be able to use book a lot more often

[tulip kettle]

we are talking about psykinetics aura, the talent that gives CDR on elite/specialist kill

[tulip kettle]

indeed

[gray juniper]

I think the devs had that in mind with changes. More diverse play

[potent echo]

Surge psyker uh

I don't think there's any meaningful change to them

[marble crater]

We need to rename psy aura into something without aura, it causes too many misunderstandings, give us Trauma, Surge and Purgatus back in exchange

[novel yoke]

man I give up, gonna go OD on the warp

[potent echo]

[tulip kettle]

there is, in that the nerfs to PA means shriek is less spammable

[summer prairie]

you can get channeled force and empyric shock without tax, I guess

[tulip kettle]

and you rely on spamming shriek on most surge builds

[wraith sphinx]

about to no balls myself

[potent echo]

Yea, new talents don't seem to touch surge staff much

[tulip kettle]

and my meme 100% uptime surge build is also broken because of PA nerfs

so though the staff itself isnt changed, the support for it is gutted

[potent echo]

It's time to go gaze surge

[tulip kettle]

cant spam shriek, cant get 100% uptime on scriers

[potent echo]

[tulip kettle]

i already did

[potent echo]

Well not with 100%

[tulip kettle]

but now its broken because PA nerfs

[swift eagle]

This node is the one we're talking about

[quartz barn]

Nice grammar

[novel yoke]

I realized that but I didnt get what changed, and decided nah it aint worth it

[quartz barn]

Or text fell off the box

Fs pls fix

[tulip kettle]

you used to get a flat 4% off your cooldown timer for every elite or specialist that died

[summer prairie]

Surge is still going to kill a lot of elites, shriek should be spammable still. Well, not sure about the new breakpoints

[potent echo]

Oh wair

[tulip kettle]

now you get double cooldown rate for 4 seconds non stacking

[potent echo]

There's 20% rending now on penetration

[summer prairie]

you were already wasting a lot of cdr with old psykinetic when killing clusters of elites

[potent echo]

Does surge benefit from rending

[swift eagle]

I'm guessing the old was more along the lines of You and allies get 4% CDR when killing an elite or specialist enemy. Am I right?

[weary crane]

Penetration of the Soul still seems ahh

[potent echo]

It used to be a flat reduction to CD, but now it's just a buff that doesn't stack with itself

[tulip kettle]

we will need to see. Its possible some breakpoints can be reached with PoTS and EK vs crushers

but they also got buffed so who knows

[novel yoke]

I see, it got the IoD treatment

[obtuse dome]

They shouldve made paul activation like power sword this is bs

[novel yoke]

rip

[obtuse dome]

What am i gonna do woth 1 hit in 12 seconds

[tulip kettle]

yeah it went from "must take" to "pretty meh"

[obtuse dome]

The fights over in 12 seconds

[weary crane]

The most common warp DMG is soulblaze which doesn't gain jack from rending

[novel yoke]

paul is just always relegated to trash tier bro

[potent echo]

The fights over on activation

[obtuse dome]

Its sad really

[potent echo]

I need to check out the new combos though

[tulip kettle]

?

awful take

[obtuse dome]

The ogryn posterbpi weapin is utter dogshit

[cosmic cobalt]

anyone tested if just a dream work with toughness damage

since it doesnt specify

[weary crane]

Not a take lol it's a fact

[tulip kettle]

no, and no.

[gray juniper]

HOLY…

[potent echo]

Probably all damage

[summer prairie]

Kuli's guide says it's toughness damage too

[novel yoke]

speaking of which, did we get exact changelogs?

[summer prairie]

You are going to generate a lot of peril if you are tanking random ranged fire with e.g. purg

[novel yoke]

I didnt see them anywhere

[tulip kettle]

on steam page, click the update, patch notes is there

[thorn cedar]

Unexpected.

[weary crane]

Anyone know if Souldrinker is fixed and procs during?

[thorn cedar]

That's a pretty good talent then.

Very good upside with very notable downside.

[lethal folio]

It's not really meant to do that.

[deft stump]

Also Discord on news. The fatshark forum link is the notes.

[summer prairie]

The guide says Souldrinker is refreshable though doesn't specify if the crit part refreshes

[thorn cedar]

Yeah but health damage only wouldve made it so niche.

[weary crane]

Well they are both a cooldown now so I would assume so

[novel yoke]

found it, thanks

[potent echo]

Huh it's 1:1 damage to peril

[summer prairie]

It sounds more like a melee weapon talent

[potent echo]

I guess it combos with the stun immune one

[plucky flax]

Where's the smol 5% crit chance node?

[potent echo]

Maybe you get to survive one overhead

[tulip kettle]

also i have an inkling DS5 maybe new meta

[summer prairie]

you path through that node now

all builds get it

[tulip kettle]

but need to test

[gray juniper]

I’m going to end up putting 40 hours into just browsing the talent tree page

[plucky flax]

Oh it's above.

[zealous wing]

yall i saw the plasma guy

[novel yoke]

real as hell

[zealous wing]

he died before i processed what he was

[idle aurora]

there's only 1 now, and you can't skip it

[deft stump]

I can't play high ping anymore. You can't dodge those on 300 ping.

[plucky flax]

This new tree is kinda still shit.

[deft stump]

Rodin hurts for a reason. Or well, I guess I can only play Arby or Slab on 300.

[weary crane]

The Special action has been changed from a quick poke to a Parry-Riposte mechanic, similar to the ‘Devil’s Claw’ swords. Activating the Special input now initiates a Parry state, blocking enemy attacks. Successfully blocking a melee attack in Parry state triggers an automatic Riposte attack. This Riposte attack deals significant damage to the first target hit, with good Finesse scaling and armour modifiers against all enemy types. Due to the weapon’s low base Stamina, investing in Stamina or Block Cost reduction is recommended for consistent Parry usage. Performing a Perfect Parry (blocking within 0.2 seconds of initiating the Parry) greatly reduces Stamina cost. Psyker players have an extra unique bonus due to them being the original carriers of this weapon: at the cost of 4% Peril, they gain significantly increased Riposte attack strength.

Psykers have buffed duel sword

[summer prairie]

the new tree isn't too exciting for most staff builds, bubble knight has more freedom now I guess

[cosmic cobalt]

scrier gunpsyker is much better

[zealous wing]

it is so fucking fun

i absolutely melted the first BoN i saw

[plucky flax]

This is nice for burga

[cosmic cobalt]

gunpsyker have 100% uptime on gaze now

[zealous wing]

pretty much can, yeah

[summer prairie]

I don't think that's worth it for purg, maybe not for any build

[cosmic cobalt]

you can do this before but you lose assail

so this is amazing

[plucky flax]

Get 5 stacks uncanny on it.

[zealous wing]

its also a guarenteed head crack every 12s

if KF

[weary crane]

(Psyker class only) Added 4% Peril cost to perform the Special Parry action, with increased power level multiplier for the Riposte attack:

Mk II / Mk IV: 650.
Mk V: 700.

[tulip kettle]

ya i think DS5 might actually be good now

[idle aurora]

mk4 meta is dead, welcome mk5 meta

[tulip kettle]

especially with the +2stam node

[cosmic cobalt]

it still have worse finnese lol

also worse heavy

[weary crane]

Wait how is the Mk5 better now?

[tulip kettle]

yes but its all about the parrying

[cosmic cobalt]

anyway drip or drown

[tulip kettle]

and the DS4 heavy got nerfed

[deft stump]

DC but better.

[plucky flax]

Huh can get more assails node with bubble knight.

More free damage spam I guess.

[summer prairie]

nah get more tanky stuff

[weary crane]

So for attack MK4 is still best but for defence, MK5 is best?

[summer prairie]

I'll also drop PC with the bubble knight

[cosmic cobalt]

mk4 still have higher unyielding damage

[summer prairie]

even the ogryn/boss damage node would be more damage

[cosmic cobalt]

but mk5 have better cara

[plucky flax]

You never know you might steal soulblaze from burga guy.

Get like 200k soulblaze damage.

[zealous wing]

oh yeah revive speed works on rescues and unnets now too

[weary crane]

No more bubble only havoc 40

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-reaction-meme-funny-begging-crying-gif-11151243012681431164

[idle aurora]

Considering how juiced crushers are now, maybe that's better to take + plasma gunner has cara helmet

[deft stump]

I mean, playing with some means no bubble for awhile now.

[dusk timber]

Ye its pretty neat

[cosmic cobalt]

i mean you still have uncanny

[plucky flax]

Can even get psykenetic's aura for teammates with bubble knight. True support build.

[summer prairie]

bubble knight gets free damage from Perfect timing now too

[plucky flax]

No one can cry about bubble knight in havoc now.

[summer prairie]

and the new melee damage node

[zealous wing]

i think imma give it a try, see how effective it is in casual gameplay

[cosmic cobalt]

i just tested it

mk4 still stronger overall

[charred hamlet]

this is worded kinda weird. is it a flat 10% DR all the time and stun immunity at critical, or is it only 10% + stun immune at critical?

[plucky flax]

What melee damage node?

[cosmic cobalt]

considering uncanny is like permanent on ds

[plucky flax]

Oh small 10%.

[summer prairie]

+10% minor node where crit was

[plucky flax]

That's very good.

[cosmic cobalt]

.

[plucky flax]

Big damage.

[idle aurora]

I mean, it was doable for a while now, majority of pub people still would screech at you for not taking bubble

[plucky flax]

Even 5% movespeed node is nice just above dd.

[dusk timber]

Pretty sure its the former

[cosmic cobalt]

bubble is for carrying

[plucky flax]

I'll play this weekend when home cba playing on laptop. Also gives times for mods to be updated.

[potent echo]

That's like

[charred hamlet]

i see, thank u

[cosmic cobalt]

from my testing so far mk4 still reign supreme lol

[potent echo]

35% DR if you add the other talent

Or is it 0.9 * 0.75

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-buddy-gif-23055032

Me to dclaw

[thorn cedar]

wait the patch notes labeled One With the Warp as a new talent lmao

[zealous wing]

also slight weirdness, my vraks went down a bullet in the mag

[idle aurora]

oh, nvm then

[plucky flax]

I haven't played in 2 weeks would be havoc rank be demoted?

[potent echo]

Yes lmao

[thorn cedar]

guess nobody used it!

[potent echo]

The devs clearly didn't

[idle aurora]

there are a few nodes that were labeled as new

[weary crane]

Peril maxing gonna go crazy

[summer prairie]

Rank reset anyway

[marble crater]

New season anyway, you are at least 30 now

[plucky flax]

Bubble knight only 30 to 40.

[deft stump]

Chaos is carrying again???

[plucky flax]

Not you.

[tulip kettle]

awww hell yeah

[potent echo]

I'm gonna test if my darktide bricks on launch

[tulip kettle]

dibs on joining the bubble knight 30-40 challenge party

[plucky flax]

I'm kidding please no flame

[potent echo]

Do I still want to be bubble knight with the new tree

[plucky flax]

Yeah you can have psykenetic aura.

Real support build.

[potent echo]

Darktide crashed immediately

Nice

[wraith sphinx]

anyone tried just a dream yet?

[fiery stratus]

Make sure you turn off mods

[wraith sphinx]

does numeric ui crash

[potent echo]

I tried to load with mods

Now to figure out which one

[fiery stratus]

Ive heard that mods are broken right now

[potent echo]

[fiery stratus]

All

[dusk timber]

What about above average weed stoner

[fiery stratus]

Ive heard something got changed in the framework

Something something

[potent echo]

Rip

Yea it seems to be the mod loader itself having issues

Modless darktide...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-say-bleh-gif-26378492

[fiery stratus]

Eh

[worn heath]

the modloader's already got a patch out

[fiery stratus]

Tbh my game is almost vanilla visually except for health bars, true level and numeric ui

[cosmic cobalt]

how good is penetration

[fiery stratus]

Depends who you ask

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[weary crane]

Anyone know if duel sword parry cost will stop at critical?

[fiery stratus]

No

Apparently it can overload you

Not sure if other talents will stop it, crystalline will will

[weary crane]

Seems like an oversight

[fiery stratus]

Will will

Its intentional

[weary crane]

On dclaw you can max out and switch to stamina

[fiery stratus]

Probably a balancing measure

[cosmic cobalt]

mettle nerf seem justified since souldrinker is way easier to get

[potent echo]

Ok

[fiery stratus]

Probably affected by other talents like crystalline idk

[potent echo]

Mods work

[cosmic cobalt]

how

[potent echo]

Once you update the loader

[cosmic cobalt]

oh

[weary crane]

Not sure if kinetic deflection is worth it now

If you just stamina max

[potent echo]

I mean I haven't loaded into a game yet

There's more crashes to come

I can't kogin

Servers are full

[deft stump]

They stack. Higher stam lowers the peril taken for some reason?

[cosmic cobalt]

kf have innaate block efficiency + the peril gain even when blocking like 40 rager is pretty low

[granite kelp]

i cant fucking update

[deft stump]

I always took less peril damage on the FGS funni than with Illisi.

[cosmic cobalt]

there nothing better for blocking than kd\

[weary crane]

Does it reduce the 4% peril gain from parry though?

[cosmic cobalt]

even if you get stamina node

[potent echo]

+2 Stam from new node

Crazyy

[granite kelp]

they dont even have the files to let me update, itll be a week before i can log on

[cosmic cobalt]

+2 stam will never be near how much kd let you block lol

[potent echo]

I mean you take the +2 and kd

+2 will make you take even less peril damage

[cosmic cobalt]

its just overkill

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[granite kelp]

its one dude in fatshark office manually ctrl c ctrl v the update files before sending them over to the players

[weary crane]

If the duel sword parry cost is base 4 then you max out much faster

[potent echo]

I've still yet to go in to click all my skills to see if I can even fit in the new stuff

[granite kelp]

duel parry is 4% peril for 100 more damage no?

[weary crane]

I'm gonna have to sacrifice mettle

[cosmic cobalt]

it take less than a second to quell like half your peril anyway

[cosmic cobalt]

mettle is honestly fine now with how souldrinker is easier to get

[granite kelp]

anyone figured out what the quell speed is for the DS yet

[cosmic cobalt]

but the crit damage node is huge

[cosmic cobalt]

you cant quell with ds

[granite kelp]

it generates peril

[weary crane]

But if you're locked into a twin or chaos spawn then...

[cosmic cobalt]

then just normal block bruh

[granite kelp]

what do you mean i cant quell with DS if it makes peril it should be able to quell peril

[weary crane]

Yeah it's weird since laspistol has peril gen but can't quell

[cosmic cobalt]

because the quell button is the same as reload

??????

[granite kelp]

yeah i get it with the las pistol controls conflict

but DS??

[cosmic cobalt]

dev cant magically create new bind because controller exist

sadly

[weary crane]

Oh controller...

[potent echo]

Xbox

[cosmic cobalt]

controller layout been the bane of pc and console gaming for years

no new button in the last like 15 years

[thorn cedar]

man, good patch

another banger

[potent echo]

They can easily decouple stuff

[deft stump]

Have you seen third party with extra bumpers and back?

[potent echo]

But it would be expecting too much for them to add one entire button for a single weapon

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah

WHICH WORK AS MACRO

[dusk timber]

Also restricted to preset layouts instead of being able to manually binding them on 99% of games

[potent echo]

I have those

[deft stump]

I want one of those but no budget.

[potent echo]

The best things

[cosmic cobalt]

WHICH ISNT IT OWN BUTTOn

[granite kelp]

get them in the hands of your average console player now

[cosmic cobalt]

dont you get what im talking about

[potent echo]

Aren't they cheaper than first party controllers lol

[deft stump]

Or a rebindable depending on game.

[cosmic cobalt]

this shit been limiting game that CAN be on console for YEARS

[deft stump]

$100.

So about the same.

[potent echo]

You can buy on shopee for 50

[deft stump]

Just 4 extra buttons.

I mean direct from official site.

[weary crane]

I guess you can still parry with ds forever

Parry until peril reaches max, then switch to block to use stamina instead, untill your gaze regens, then hit gaze and start parrying again

[potent echo]

8bitdo has a nice one but I think it's closer to 70

[deft stump]

Gamesir's new g7 pro.

[cosmic cobalt]

8bitdo kinda meh for the price nowaday

[vernal temple]

Keep Empyric Resolve or swap it for the new Just a Dream?
This is my current Purgatus build

[potent echo]

I have the gamesir one but only backpaddles

I tried the 8bitdo 2c but I disklike extra shoulders

I press them accidentally

[cosmic cobalt]

personally i got a flydigi vader 4

[potent echo]

Finger issue

[cosmic cobalt]

flydigi have a qc problem but i got lucky

[vernal temple]

Though perhaps I should switch to Empathic Evasion instead.

[cosmic cobalt]

why would you run empathic evasion on shield build

[vernal temple]

I guess you're right, yeah.

[spice flame]

ER bad

[potent echo]

Wait hell yea

Psyker gets a 10% melee node

[summer prairie]

that + perfect timing working with all damage now

[deft stump]

The G7 pro has them as well.

[vernal temple]

Empyric Resolve doesn't really make much sense on Purgatus builds, since peril buildup on that is already fairly low, plus high peril is beneficial for One With the Warp. Perhaps put that point into Vulnerable Minds for the extra 20% damage to ogryns/monsters?

[near wyvern]

HELLO

I guess I need to get back into the game

[vernal temple]

[wraith sphinx]

ok I don't like just a dream

weakbaby shit

[wraith sphinx]

ya it's so cool now

[deft stump]

Eh?

[potent echo]

My next controller I plan to get one with the 4 extra, I will see how I like it

[near wyvern]

oh no the amount of updates I need to do to the guide

[deft stump]

I want it or the 8BitDo Star Rail collab.

Mostly cos GF wants everything but the controller.

Evil March.

[near wyvern]

Hey I suggested this

probs wasn't the only one but still

[wraith sphinx]

good change but still a shit talent

[near wyvern]

sometimes you need to get through shit to get to the goodies

rather have shit that does something than just shit that does nothing

[wraith sphinx]

it's completely skippable

but the kf thing?

brainsplosion gunker bros we are so back...

[near wyvern]

seems scetchy AF, your team mate kills the elite... "chuckles, I'm in danger"

why tf they are so keen on race conditions between players in this game

race conditions always feel bad

[wraith sphinx]

yeh, gimmick pick imo

[near wyvern]

ffs just give it a cooldown like you can overload once every 3min without taking corruption damage

and that is that

still wouldn't pick it but some new players might

and no race condition

[cosmic cobalt]

damn

[near wyvern]

jesus so many buffs and nerfs I gotta delete all my builds and retune

[cosmic cobalt]

same

I just clean up my build loadout

psyker probably got least change this rework though

[wraith sphinx]

already did

[near wyvern]

tell me this wording is off

[wraith sphinx]

feels good to start fresh

[cosmic cobalt]

no it got deserved nerf

[near wyvern]

no but like the wording reads insta cooldowns for 3s on kill?

updating the game so can't test myself yet

[cosmic cobalt]

eh basically

[zealous wing]

it is a mis-type, its cooldown reduction

[cosmic cobalt]

but not instant

[zealous wing]

even this is mistyped

[near wyvern]

right yeah so 2x faster charge for 3s

fatshark is so nice with words

[zealous wing]

but, "100% cooldown regeneration speed for 3s when you or an ally in coherency kill an elite or specialist enemy"

though, regeneneration gives me pregananant vibes

[idle plover]

man im noticing the missing hp node

really have to figure out now to get over 200 hp

[near wyvern]

so this means the absolute maximum benefit you can have is halve the CD of your abilities if you are chain killing elites and specials

[dusk timber]

I mean yeah

Thats still really good

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-the-voices-thevoices-cat-the-voices-cat-thevoices-gif-10261263063736228754

[near wyvern]

god yes but not god like as it was before

[zealous wing]

21 hp curio, all 3 curio with a +5hp

[dusk timber]

Ye

[near wyvern]

because if you kill 10 in one go it's the same effect as killing 1

[left basin]

tree different i am lost

[near wyvern]

where as before you killed 10 in one go and that's 30% back

no wait 40%

but still

[zealous wing]

tree placement is different, some skills changed, but most are the same skills

[left basin]

i remember one game when i triple tapped vent shriek :((((((

[dusk timber]

It also doesnt reduce cooldown for allies anymore

[summer prairie]

allegedly

Kuli's guide says otherwise

[zealous wing]

^ which means assail in h40 wont be so frowned upon anymore because no CD aura

[idle plover]

ive only gotten 21% hp curios on vet

[cosmic cobalt]

good change

[idle plover]

got 5 of the bastards

[cosmic cobalt]

also melk is dead

[idle plover]

but not on others

i hate it

[zealous wing]

yeah im still waiting for commissary to update so i can see the FGS skins

[dusk timber]

I mean even if psykenetic aura didnt get changed that wouldnt really be a problem

Since assail doesnt lock you out frok it anymore

[near wyvern]

they finally got rid of the old warp expenditure

hallelujah

[zealous wing]

its merged

[near wyvern]

that talent was more dead than my grandmother

merging should be fine

[cosmic cobalt]

problem with pa was that it was busted as fuck

[dusk timber]

Ye it got merged with quietude

[wraith sphinx]

yeah new WE is fun

[worn topaz]

Anybody know if voidblast benefits from cleave at all?

[dusk timber]

I mean specifically in regards to assail locking you out from it

[zealous wing]

also any news on making mods not crash the game instantly or not yet?

[left basin]

mm soupsmeller is same 🙂

[near wyvern]

quietitude got a slight buff then, only went from 5% to 4% but now you also gain 4% from gen so in total went from 5% to 8% over time

not even that slight buff

quite a big buff

[dusk timber]

Ye its a really big buff

[zealous wing]

yeah its more viable now for sure

[summer prairie]

KF proc with blaze away and other buffs up does so much damage now

[dusk timber]

Cause you cant quell peril without generating it

[cosmic cobalt]

still not worth it tbh

[near wyvern]

correct

[zealous wing]

depends on play style

[dusk timber]

So its now a net 8% per peril quelled

[left basin]

still no kame hame ha node

[near wyvern]

correct and you get half of it before you start the quelling

[zealous wing]

no but there is a kamekazi node

[left basin]

i'm aware

[near wyvern]

yeah but that's just like omega buff

[cosmic cobalt]

psyker jihad

[zealous wing]

suipsyker

[wraith sphinx]

psyker has so much extra ways to gen toughness now

[cosmic cobalt]

why dont the imperium of mankind use psyker as suicide bomber are they stupid

[near wyvern]

it's all fun and games until that ogryn of yours knocks them all away

WHAT. Let the edging begin.

[cosmic cobalt]

stun immune on psyker lmao

[weary crane]

No it doesnt

Voidstrike does though

[worn topaz]

Ty

[near wyvern]

in correct

it does

voidstrike has a cleave value of 10 to 12 when fully charged but it has some RNG into it based on what body parts it goes through.

[dusk timber]

Voidblast

[near wyvern]

oh fuck FS for the renaming

you mean trauma?

trauma is infinite cleave

[dusk timber]

The kaboom

Blast is boom strike is bowling

[near wyvern]

I don't think this will still make psykers very good as monstrosity damage. Will possibly affect some brain burst break points for sure.

[wraith sphinx]

eh

[left basin]

wuhs a stun

[wraith sphinx]

boss killer loadout will become even more boss kill-y

doesn't affect other psyker builds much

mandatory pick for my gunker though

[cosmic cobalt]

you know when you get hit when meleeing sometimes you just stop?

[zealous wing]

not me melting a BoN with a single vraks mag

[cosmic cobalt]

that stun

[near wyvern]

but like psyker boss kill loadout is like a zealot/vet/ogryn having a bad day

[cosmic cobalt]

bb can 1 shot reaper on auric now

[near wyvern]

sweet

[weary crane]

Eh, free damage why not

[cosmic cobalt]

but that don't really matter

[near wyvern]

oof game is crashing with my mods

rip

unplayable

[summer prairie]

mod loader needs an update

well, there's an update

[wraith sphinx]

I don't really agree, I'm down for whatever team comps make bosses die faster

[left basin]

reality anchor buff huh

[near wyvern]

nothing beats a hammer zealot

on monstrosity damage

[dusk timber]

What if

Another hammer zealot

[near wyvern]

that might

[idle plover]

okay soulfire doing something funky to crash game

[left basin]

i wonder if it'll make any critmong staff actually nice

[weary crane]

How reliable is crystalline will? Is the damage significant enough to kill elites in havoc 40?

[left basin]

voidstrike double spam?...

[cosmic cobalt]

thammer is so much better now

with the zealot tree change

[left basin]

wuh happen to zealots

[cosmic cobalt]

what it do again

[weary crane]

Well now it does double DMG and larger radius

And does no corruption if it kills elite

[idle plover]

prevents down if overloads, now also does not cause you any corruption if you manage to kill someone

[cosmic cobalt]

oh the suicide bomber node

it for meme build

[weary crane]

It might be worth it if you are parrying with duel sword

[summer prairie]

the new dodge count bar doesn't realize that I've 5 dodges instead of 4 due to Anticipation, good

maaybe it's due to switching things around in psykhanium

nope

[cosmic cobalt]

i think 4 is max out

now

on knife + force sword you only have 4 dodge

[dusk timber]

Im pretty sure the last dodge is shown as the empty bar state kinda

[cosmic cobalt]

in ds at 80% mobility still 4 dodge

[near wyvern]

rip all those builds

[cosmic cobalt]

but that just on weapon description so

[near wyvern]

don't want to delete them cause I would lose the drips

[weary crane]

They haven't released the new drip yet

[near wyvern]

I don't care about scam drip

I need my hobo robes

[summer prairie]

pretty good with no buffs https://streamable.com/s4kknv

well

without most buffs

[left basin]

this psyker tree remodel sets my brain on fire i know where everything is and i love the new stuff and how it's accessed but it's weird and looks different

[summer prairie]

also why is it generating so much peril

[near wyvern]

cause that overhead is deadly?

[weary crane]

How do you find Mk5 at parrying Vs MK4? I'm wondering which Is better for parry only

[summer prairie]

Not going to do indepth testing right now

[near wyvern]

wait what

they removed the duelling sword stab?

[weary crane]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[summer prairie]

the special is now a parry riposte

[near wyvern]

RIP

we had fun times my beloved

[summer prairie]

and psyker does a bit more damgae with it

[weary crane]

At the cost of peril

[wraith sphinx]

apparently they nerfed heavy attack damage too?

I noticed I need an extra poke or two to take down bulwarks

[azure rapids]

knife was always the better option

[wraith sphinx]

but yeah maybe people will use other melee now lol

[azure rapids]

since I never melee anyone as a psiker

better dodges better movement speed

knife all the way

purgatus staff will take care of the rest

blessed emperor

[cosmic cobalt]

duelling sword heavies got nerfed yeah

[weary crane]

I literally joked about them adding parry to duel sword and now they've actually done it

[cosmic cobalt]

it been leaked a few months ago

so

ds is still a very good option

[wraith sphinx]

a long time coming

[cosmic cobalt]

mk4 still the best mark

[wraith sphinx]

and yeah ds is still very good and fun to use

[cosmic cobalt]

mk5 is better for parry though

[near wyvern]

why did you do this to our beloved

I guess I can fully embrace the knife life now

[weary crane]

Does duel sword still have a huge crit modifier though?

[near wyvern]

should have

if they did not touch that

[random spruce]

How's psyker feeling siblings? Are we back or is it over?

[left basin]

we're drifting in circles mostly

[near wyvern]

haven't tested by the notes but it was never over (because shield is so dumb) but it seems we have new fresh builds to cook

and some old ones were nuked

[left basin]

the scrier's gaze bonus stack looks amazing

[cosmic cobalt]

I think heavies finesse multi is a little lower

[cosmic cobalt]

but I don't have pre update screenshot

[left basin]

i really want a scriers staff build

[jovial juniper]

Hitler dead.png

[summer prairie]

I can't check the code due to something they did breaking one of the tools, sad

[cold hornet]

I sense we are going to feel it, bubble CD up, and no more massive CD reduction to help upkeep

[cosmic cobalt]

lmao no

[low sigil]

Apparently duel sword was made as the psyker weapon, these changes maybe are meant to make zealots and veterans sod off to other weapons

[cosmic cobalt]

fuck you on about

you can still spam bubble