Is this out already? Is the full tree online somewhere in non-video form?
#psyker-class
sullen nacelle
marble crater
Tomorrow
strong gulch
Is this out already? Is the full tree online somewhere in non-video form?
Best I got for the new psyker talents tree are these.
royal totem
Pet peeve but i hate having to watch videos for news
strong gulch
I don't mind watching vids for news, but I don't like them for quick reference material. So I screenshot a bunch of shit and cobbled it together.
ripe obsidian
From counting manually, it looks like there are 29 nodes I really want for my Inferno build, and 11 maybes.
marble crater
rip
strong gulch
kinda dangerous tbh
plucky flax
Is psyker finally good from tomorrow?
pale prairie
From counting manually, it looks like there are 29 nodes I really want for my In...
Damn
pale prairie
Still terrible
Worst class honestly
patent mango
make sg double your FOV its the only way to make psyker good
strong gulch
I can't wait to pick a bunch of talents at random because it just works now.
pale prairie
I can't wait to pick a bunch of talents at random because it just works now.
Oh no
strong gulch
OH. I have to update my randomizer.
pale prairie
The potato has been unleashed
marble crater
OH. I have to update my randomizer.
You also have to update builds for 10 psykers
strong gulch
RIGHT??
pale prairie
Damn imagine having that many psyker builds AND psyker characters
Oh what if the update kills those mods
strong gulch
Maybe I abandon them and just make new ones.
pale prairie
Just crash on startup
patent mango
man i just noticed the preview didnt have any silksong news
ripe obsidian
Damn
Reworked slightly. 25 I really want, 14 maybes, and some of those maybes are necessary to advance the tree.
pale prairie
Reworked slightly. 25 I really want, 14 maybes, and some of those maybes are nec...
Damn am I real gonna need to pull out paint by fingers to plan my build
ripe obsidian
Yes.
pale prairie
patent mango
do it on paper
pale prairie
Let’s see if I can make it more shaky than yours Six
ripe obsidian
This is probably my most likely build.
Warp Ghost seems insanely good. -80% passive quelling, +2 stamina, +25% toughness gen
marble crater
Give me Warp Ghost or give me death
zealous wing
this is what im starting with
marble crater
I did pick it
Pick it again!
zealous wing
green is my current experiment build, red for changes
ripe obsidian
Costs a minimum of 17 points to get to a keystone. 19 if you buff your combat ability with 2 smol nodes
zealous wing
might be further tweaking once actually ingame but this is current plan
zinc phoenix
Don’t get me wrong I’m definitely slotting it in my “fuck it we ball” perilmaxxing build
ripe obsidian
I am curious if OwtW is better than the 25% of damage taken goes to peril node
zealous wing
zinc phoenix
Bound by Doody
Next up, we get the call
I like that they realized that the meme options in the psyker tree need to be better
So that they’re still memes but at least they’re funny memes
zealous wing
suipsyker might actually be good, who knows
marble crater
How to carry in malice, low warp res staff, crystalline will, explode every group of elites you see
zinc phoenix
Heck I was already charging the baddies whenever I peril’d, it’s nothing new there 😂
marble crater
The damage will be too low, most likely
thorn cedar
they got rid of the one actual good smite modifier node, what the fuck lmao
i am generously assuming they simply rolled that effect into base smite
zinc phoenix
isis gameplay
zinc phoenix
they got rid of the one actual good smite modifier node, what the fuck lmao
None of them?
thorn cedar
Lightning Storm
marble crater
The extra jump is great
pine cradle
Assail gamer rise up
thorn cedar
genuinely very good, just not necessary
zinc phoenix
In my perfect world they’d remove smite
Jumping into a group with a smite brain in it is just so annoying
thorn cedar
but the charged heavy attack node is still there, lmao
the one that literally nobody uses after one game and they realize they didnt even see it proc
patent mango
mayb it got bufffed lmao
pale prairie
Depends a lot on if the latter one is just health
Usually when they say DR it covers both
zinc phoenix
the one that literally nobody uses after one game and they realize they didnt ev...
I’ve used it in several games because I wanted to larp with shock maul
Do not recommend
thorn cedar
oh its literally just terrible
the BEST you can do with it, is to use Illisi, and never use the warp attack
zealous wing
smite overall is just.. shit
thorn cedar
OR, use the Devil Claw MK1 and spam its heavies
ie. the worst weapon in the game
or one of the best used in the worst possible way
👍
marble crater
Not a very talkative cat
thorn cedar
there's no fucken way they just deleted lightning storm
i HAVE to believe they rolled it into base smite
it just makes no goddamn sense
zealous wing
we'll find out in 17 hours
thorn cedar
fucken massive scriers buff tho
pine cradle
All 6 smite users will riot
zealous wing
sadly its more than 6
thorn cedar
oh there's way more than 6
patent mango
7
zealous wing
its a rampant disease
thorn cedar
but now they are even more incentivized to use it in the shitty way
ripe obsidian
sadly its more than 6
don't put this on me
ripe obsidian
When being disrespectful. >:(
swift eagle
I feel like smite would be cool if I didn't feel like it taught me how to improperly play. Like feels like after messing around with it it was teaching me bad habits
marble crater
Sechs
thorn cedar
I feel like smite would be cool if I didn't feel like it taught me how to improp...
yea thats because it was
swift eagle
Idk how they could change it tbh
thorn cedar
well this is one of those things where the horses already left the barn
zealous wing
dont worry, you feel correctly. it DOES teach really bad habits
cosmic cobalt
bad habit like using smite
thorn cedar
for players who dont give a shit to 'get good' at the game and are just chillaxing, smite rocks. its flashy, looks cool, has inarguable utility, its effective, etc.
90% of the player base LOVES smite
swift eagle
I guess I wasn't wrong then. I switched off of it and haven't bothered because of that feeling
zealous wing
"looks cool" ok bud
cosmic cobalt
it doesn't help that the first screen you see before getting into the game is a smyker in the middle
zealous wing
its at the point where i see a smyker smiting a horde with shit i know it wont kill, and i just fuckin walk away and leave them to figure it out
patent mango
keep in mind the defense part of psyker tree is shaped like a shield
thorn cedar
you gotta watch normies play the game, man
patent mango
this is very lore important and awesome
zealous wing
keep in mind the defense part of psyker tree is shaped like a shield
the fuck you mean defensive
thorn cedar
when arbie dropped i was checking out streamers who were brand new or returning to the game and the reaction they would have to seeing Smite was always overwhelingly positive and excited
thats who Smite is for
patent mango
the fuck you mean defensive
5 of those talents r defensive
thorn cedar
it's not for sweats and nerds like us who spend the limited time we have on earth having discussions like this
patent mango
also its shaped like a shield its too awesome to not be defensive....
cosmic cobalt
keep in mind the defense part of psyker tree is shaped like a shield
peak....
thorn cedar
25% damage reduction to perils sounds so fucken sick
and i am very down to clown with warp ghost
zealous wing
5 out of 11 is not defense section imo
ripe obsidian
25% damage reduction to perils sounds so fucken sick
My primary concerns are: does it do toughness and HP? And how useful would it be if I am already peril-maxxing?
marble crater
25% damage reduction to perils sounds so fucken sick
Until you eat a bunch of damage and peril right before casting your staff and go boom
thorn cedar
My primary concerns are: does it do toughness and HP? And how useful would it be...
DR is always HP and Toughness
patent mango
5 out of 11 is not defense section imo
well i didnt count nodes
thorn cedar
Until you eat a bunch of damage and peril right before casting your staff and go...
only works when you're below critical
ripe obsidian
It doesn't say DR, though.
thorn cedar
oh youre right
ripe obsidian
And my question is more along the lines of: if I am at 85% peril, how does it work?
thorn cedar
must be HP then
marble crater
only works when you're below critical
but then casting takes you above, surely there will be situations where you explode because of this
thorn cedar
hmmm
dusk timber
how much is critical peril?
ripe obsidian
Does it take only 12 damage? Does it take the whole thing and just stop at 97%?
zealous wing
how much is critical peril?
97
cosmic cobalt
basically when you about to blow
thorn cedar
it wont blow you up, im sure
think of it like surety of arms
you dont explode because you tried to put a bullet in your revolver
zealous wing
lmao a funny visual tho
marble crater
It won't, I'm worried about a sudden increase in peril before generating peril of my own
ripe obsidian
I don't expect it to blow me up. I want to know how useful it will be if I am over 80% peril like 40% of the game
thorn cedar
well, critical peril is 97%
ripe obsidian
I know.
summer prairie
But you are charging at high peril thinking you can safely cast and then a random ranged shot ruins that
marble crater
Shriek is on cooldown because of psy aura nerf
ripe obsidian
Syllogism covered one point, but what if I am at 90% peril and I take an attack that does 80 damage? I mean, a basic poxwalker does like 120 toughness damage on H40
zealous wing
we wont be able to test this shit for another 16 1/2 hrs so it's pure speculation
patent mango
ask mr streamers to test it 🔥
summer prairie
Should work like KD
thorn cedar
it's gonna work in one of two ways presumably
a) you take 100 damage at 90 peril, 25 of that damage is turned into 25 perils, it puts you to 97% and you take 75 damage
b) same as above but you take 93 damage because you didnt have buffer space for the peril
im guessing a
patent mango
psykuh workin out
summer prairie
Even if a single hit drains a lot of stamina it stops at 97
ripe obsidian
Havoc reset is also tomorrow. Argh. Back to 30 we go.
thorn cedar
finally
patent mango
he hell naw!! hell naw!!
thorn cedar
need fresh morons in havoc
zealous wing
apparently plasma gun and DS also got nerfed
thorn cedar
reworked would be the word
pale prairie
So damage taken is health?
ripe obsidian
So damage taken is health?
Maybe. Unclear.
pale prairie
Veteran tree rework is looking pretty good.
Glad I felt really sad for those guys. Trying their hearts out only to eat pavement
ripe obsidian
So damage taken is health?
I think Martyr's Purpose in the Zealot tree was written as "damage taken" and only affected HP
cosmic cobalt
at least vet have a choice other which blitz to use without being as taxed as prework zealot
pale prairie
I think Martyr's Purpose in the Zealot tree was written as "damage taken" and on...
Makes sense
strong gulch
Havoc reset is also tomorrow. Argh. Back to 30 we go.
Ye. That's why I wasn't pressed about 40. I knew the reset was soon.
marble crater
If I was 23 or something, will I get ranked up to 30? 
thorn cedar
no, you get ranked up to 40 and have to suffer your way back down
marble crater
Damn
pale prairie
I think Martyr's Purpose in the Zealot tree was written as "damage taken" and on...
As promised behold the shakey hand psyker
marble crater
Looks like whoever made that build had shakey hands
pale prairie
Looks like whoever made that build had shakey hands
Damn Sut thank god you are here to point out the obvious
marble crater
You are welcome, what would you do without me?
pale prairie
I would be deeply depressed without my personal Ogryn
marble crater
zealous wing
lol i spy lazy
upper sun
ehm ehm
NIGHT CAP
lets warm up before the update!!!
🚬 no biters? fine ill play ||psyker||
pale prairie
lol i spy lazy
?
zealous wing
the stims are all meds inside
marble crater
🚬 no biters? fine ill play ||psyker||
I can
pale prairie
🚬 no biters? fine ill play ||psyker||
marble crater
Need a break from hatching eggs in Pokemon
pale prairie
You play so many different games and that’s cool
upper sun
what staff do i play?
pale prairie
Voidstrike
marble crater
If clad plays psyker... I will play arby
upper sun
did i hear something other than voidstrike???
zealous wing
what difficulty will this be?
pale prairie
Auric
marble crater
Auric of course
upper sun
auric ye
pale prairie
what difficulty will this be?
You got this
zealous wing
:( idk if i do
pale prairie
Do it before they buff auric
zealous wing
i can definitely be a +1
just, no guarentees
i already deleted all my staffker builds :'D
marble crater
You have been playing for a week, you are ready
pale prairie
If it fails it’s cause they didn’t carry well enough
fiery stratus
pale prairie
800 hours is auric ready
analog agate
Ye. That's why I wasn't pressed about 40. I knew the reset was soon.
Hahahahaha. This is why I said f trying to get to 40
fiery stratus
Aye yoo
upper sun
i already deleted all my staffker builds :'D
i havent played psyker in 9 months
ripe obsidian
Oh, Marksman's Focus no longer punishes you for moving
upper sun
youll do fine
sturdy reef
Meleeker gonna be absolutely disgusting come patch
I cant believe they gave it survivability
zealous wing
i do need a quick break to be ready for auric, havent played it in a bit
marble crater
Neither clad or I will care if you don't play well (we will flame you afterwards when you are gone)
zealous wing
gimme like, 3 minutes
pale prairie
I cant believe they gave it survivability
We will see. They buffed the health on a bunch of enemy types
sturdy reef
Meleeker was already overkilling crushers
pale prairie
How about doubling crusher hp?
fiery stratus
They're raising the values of enemies
sturdy reef
Ik
fiery stratus
Its gonna be op but not as broken as expected if they adjust the hps accordingly
marble crater
How about doubling crusher hp?
But allegedly there will be fewer of them
ripe obsidian
Its gonna be op but not as broken as expected if they adjust the hps accordingly
10k HP crusher.
6500 * 1.5
sturdy reef
In h40 I think itll be higher
Imagine them with the defense buff
And the armor modifier
cosmic cobalt
it's ok vet 2 shot h40 crusher with ps because he is him
fiery stratus
That's fine I don't play havoc because I like fun
pale prairie
But allegedly there will be fewer of them
weary crane
Mettle doesn't stack now right?
ripe obsidian
Stacks to 3x movespeed. Not toughness regen
weary crane
Might drop those 2 for extra points
ripe obsidian
Drop perfect timing?
weary crane
Yup
ripe obsidian
15% damage increase to all damage?
ripe obsidian
Mettle is meh now, but Perfect Timing is obscene
So is Warp Expenditure, honestly.
This is the age of the meleeker
marble crater
New psykers will be so confused about past messages shitting on Warp Expenditure
pale prairie
New psykers will be so confused about past messages shitting on Warp Expenditure
New Psykers can’t read bruh cause they will be coming over from arbites
patent mango
mettle is still good
pale prairie
“ new meta class”
patent mango
but honestly i've always cared about the mettle movement speed more
wraith sphinx
New psykers will be so confused about past messages shitting on Warp Expenditure
New psykers will not read them because people are allergic to the search function
ripe obsidian
Mettle is fine. Not great.
wraith sphinx
I'm honestly looking forward to new vet the most
ripe obsidian
I'm picking it on staves
pale prairie
I'm picking it on staves
Give me movement
sturdy reef
Im still using it for meleeker
wraith sphinx
No more ghoulish point tax everywhere
ripe obsidian
Give me movement
No.
sturdy reef
MS affects dodge iirc
ripe obsidian
:(
sturdy reef
MS good
pale prairie
Good old markiplier
pale prairie
patent mango
he says psy is his least played lool
sturdy reef
I believe it
pale prairie
Ogryn and Psyker with Ogryn just above
pale prairie
Higher percentage probability and isn’t limited by coherency
proper osprey
Psyker is about to be completely broken
weary crane
Just to check, brain burst counts as ranged DMG right?
sturdy reef
Yes
sturdy reef
Maybe itll balance out
pale prairie
Fart armor
pale prairie
Fart armor is crazy
Now fart armor with more health
ripe obsidian
He was saying you never pick in fire reborn
Yeahhhhhhhhhh
sturdy reef
Next patch, Humongous Tuna will see that SG still isnt used
So they will bake in stam regen on it
weary crane
I won't be able to take ER 
thorn cedar
"Additionally, kill all enemies."
proper osprey
Who wants to blow up together with Crystaline will
ripe obsidian
Looks like vet CDR was also nerfed hard
thorn cedar
funny way to spell "brought to a reasonable state"
weary crane
Opinions on "just a dream"?
sturdy reef
Additionally, reaching critical peril immediately triggers a perils of the warp explosions with 100% more rending and damage
ripe obsidian
funny way to spell "brought to a reasonable state"
Nerfing is nerfing, reasonable or otherwise.
thorn cedar
Opinions on "just a dream"?
looks hilarious, cant wait to fuck with it
ripe obsidian
The choice of word was not incorrect
sturdy reef
Opinions on "just a dream"?
Good, but I prob wont run it
thorn cedar
The choice of word was not incorrect
ur incorrect
proper osprey
Opinions on "just a dream"?
Amazing
sturdy reef
Otherwise it isnt psyker
proper osprey
It’s in a good spot for pathing
sturdy reef
Very good spot
zealous wing
i died first
ripe obsidian
ur incorrect
I am always correct. If I am not, the universe reshapes to make me correct. My power is unmatched.
thorn cedar
Scriers is just so funny to me, it's like XStance for Veteran except it's actually really fucking good and has been good for a long time but nobody uses it because there's two babymode options instead.
sturdy reef
i died first <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
proper osprey
I’m excited about the one node at empowered psi
sturdy reef
SG the goat
proper osprey
Or above it
sturdy reef
Has been even before the past 2 patches
weary crane
You can get complete stun immunity from gaze now
proper osprey
2 stam and 25% toughness gain is crazy
proper osprey
You can get complete stun immunity from gaze now
hello new zealot
thorn cedar
It's like wondering why nobody wants to use the bowling ball that has an auto-guided missile attached to it that blows up all the pins instead of playing in the lane that has the gutter blockers when the scores are always tallied the same way.
ripe obsidian
2 stam and 25% toughness gain is crazy
Best node.
proper osprey
sturdy reef
You will never have low peril again
jovial juniper
Now fart armor with more health
Sturtstroming armor
sturdy reef
If you dont want it
vestal trench
any news on the new psyker tree
jovial juniper
sturdy reef
vestal trench
has it been overbuffed by people who dont play the class
sturdy reef
Yes
vestal trench
FUCK
sturdy reef
Well
vestal trench
NOOOOOOOOOO
sturdy reef
MAYBR
pale prairie
Sturtstroming armor
Jesus we should be taking more damage
vestal trench
NOT LIKE THIS
proper osprey
Literally
vestal trench
I GO AWAY A FEW MONTHS TO PLAY THE FINALS
sturdy reef
DONT DESPAIR YET SIBLING
vestal trench
AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED
thorn cedar
Warp Ghost sounds fucken sick as a bespoke user of Mind in Motion
cant wait to use that one
weary crane
With the stun immunity and damage reduction, gaze might finally be viable in havoc 40
sturdy reef
It already was
ripe obsidian
SG was always viable
thorn cedar
SG has been the best ability almost forever
sturdy reef
Even good
pale prairie
Warp Ghost sounds fucken sick as a bespoke user of Mind in Motion
Say that again?
jovial juniper
Warp Ghost sounds fucken sick as a bespoke user of Mind in Motion
Pyromancer is so back
thorn cedar
Mind in Motion is my favourite
pale prairie
Mind in Motion is my favourite
Well you’ll like the no slow on reload then
sturdy reef
Souldrinker yuge
sturdy reef
I will do my meme sg inferno
thorn cedar
Disrupt Destiny also suffering similarly. Wider player base doesn't like the risk/reward ratio despite the reward being waaaaaaaaaaay higher than the risk, FatShark keeps upping the reward part anyway
sturdy reef
Idc
pale prairie
Disrupt Destiny also suffering similarly. Wider player base doesn't like the ris...
I dunno having someone marked 40 m away instead of in sword reach while I am meleeing sounds irritating
proper osprey
With the stun immunity and damage reduction, gaze might finally be viable in hav...
It already was lol
pale prairie
Oh wait
thorn cedar
I dunno having someone marked 40 m away instead of in sword reach while I am mel...
draw laspistol, shoot in head
sturdy reef
Heavy las best ranged on psyker
pale prairie
Damn
ripe obsidian
Oh, Exec Stance gives 10% toughness per second. Rad.
thorn cedar
Oh, Exec Stance gives 10% toughness per second. Rad.
and the ogryn node adds 3s to the active timer
sturdy reef
I hope itd 1 at a time
thorn cedar
which was sorely needed
vestal trench
....is bowling ball gonna be good outside of auric now
sturdy reef
Maybe?
vestal trench
idk where yall are getting the new tree info
sturdy reef
I havent heard of weapon changes
vestal trench
i am clueless
sturdy reef
Besides DS
vestal trench
ty!
ripe obsidian
I havent heard of weapon changes
Some lasguns got buffed, some IAGs got buffed, chain weapons got buffed
patent mango
oh did they kill perilous assault
sturdy reef
Some lasguns got buffed, some IAGs got buffed, chain weapons got buffed
Why the first 2
Lmfao
ripe obsidian
I unno
sturdy reef
Las and IAG didnt need buffs
ripe obsidian
Why not
sturdy reef
Fak
pale prairie
oh did they kill perilous assault
Cause it was pointless?
sturdy reef
Wait
thorn cedar
Lasgun yes, Laspistol no
sturdy reef
Is the kantrael laspistol good now?
dusk timber
Some lasguns got buffed, some IAGs got buffed, chain weapons got buffed
helbore got buffed by fixing the ironsights
thorn cedar
The MKX has always been 'good'
patent mango
Cause it was pointless?
PERILOUS ASSAULT IS GONE!!! 🦀 🦀
sturdy reef
The other mark has always been better
dusk timber
i dont remember seeing any buffs for the other lasguns
thorn cedar
The numbers on it are fine, it's just a bit unforgiving and I am not a fan of the delay it has to draw out of sprint
pale prairie
PERILOUS ASSAULT IS GONE!!! 🦀 🦀
“You’re right MY CANCER IS GONE 🦀 🦀 🦀 !!”
ripe obsidian
“You’re right MY CANCER IS GONE 🦀 🦀 🦀 !!”
if no cancer, why crab?
thorn cedar
oh yeah it IS gone
i didnt even notice
like two subnodes on WepSpec for Vet also got removed and i dont even know what they did or what they were because nobody cares
dusk timber
one was reload speed but it got moved to the base node
ripe obsidian
I am looking forward to the new Zealot tree. I want to eviscerate more things.
dusk timber
the other im pretty sure is just gone
thorn cedar
but do you know what the other one was
like i could look it up
but from memory, after 4,000 hours? nope, lmao
not a single clue
dusk timber
gameslantern still has the unupdated trees
thorn cedar
i fucken love stamina cost reduction
and its goddamn global
(in terms of effect, not literally -- still an aura)
i wouldve been cool if it was just sprint cost reduction, or just block
but its that and also push cost reduction
dusk timber
i thought this was a fairly minor aura when i first saw it
ripe obsidian
I mostly like it because Loner is dead
thorn cedar
i agree with reginald that benediciton is still best
dusk timber
-15% just seems like a pretty small number idk
thorn cedar
and Pure Bacon is still highly desireable in a corruption heavy modifier
but Zealous is reeaaaally good
thorn cedar
and that's compounding with any other stamina effects you got going on
it's very big
-15% sprint cost
-15% block cost
-15% push cost for four players
two of those are an extra curio stat, the last one basically cant be earned any other way
ripe obsidian
the new zealot seems pretty great tbh
thorn cedar
quite
they all look very good
veteran im a bit meh about
improved, absolutely, but some disappointing choices for my playstyle
ripe obsidian
It looks like Zealot got reworked more than Veteran
thorn cedar
cant pick a killing grenade + the 5% move speed
dusk timber
i think the keystone area on vet needs some more work
proper osprey
Knife pa spam about to be unreal
ripe obsidian
Jeez, the CDR nodes for Zealot are fantastic. Even if they are mutually exclusive.
proper osprey
Mach 20 zealot with heavy “slowdown” removal
untold meteor
Jeez, the CDR nodes for Zealot are fantastic. Even if they are mutually exclusiv...
Naughty naughty no double/triple dipping
jovial juniper
Jeez, the CDR nodes for Zealot are fantastic. Even if they are mutually exclusiv...
Shroud and Fury having CDR refund as well
ripe obsidian
https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-interview-jimmy-kimmel-2021-gif-9091736678629...
:(
jovial juniper
Zealot will do zealot things even harder now
ripe obsidian
Joke's on you, I like vegetables more than steak
untold meteor
upper sun
🚬 wasnt as bad as i thought id be
zealous wing
only headsploded once ^
weary crane
Will assail still be weak in havoc?
upper sun
and only ate one overhead
ripe obsidian
Of the three reworks, I'd probably rank the quality as Zealot > Psyker > Veteran. But I am biased.
upper sun
but i was blocking so i didnt die :3
zealous wing
i ate one overhead at the very beginning
then died to a gunner i couldnt get away from to reload
ripe obsidian
The general theme of these reworks seems to be "Recover % toughness per second"
weary crane
Need games lantern to update
upper sun
Need games lantern to update
tru
zealous wing
Will assail still be weak in havoc?
elaborate
weary crane
BC of horde density it was weak, but it has the best synergy with gaze so idk
proper osprey
but i was blocking so i didnt die :3
Hey fatass are you ready for soyker
zealous wing
throw a few and aim them while im still cleaving the horde down
dusk timber
it was "weak" because it blocked off psy aura right?
upper sun
Hey fatass are you ready for soyker
no
marble crater
@upper sun look at this shit
upper sun
my psyker melee is still awful
upper sun
<@244173531129053194> look at this shit <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
its not loading discord is dying
marble crater
weary crane
it was "weak" because it blocked off psy aura right?
Not just that, havoc density is ridiculous so even if you have cleave talent it wouldn't clear hordes nowhere near as effectively as something like purga, plus it's breakpoints are bad
marble crater
@zealous wing one more?
upper sun
<@244173531129053194> look at this shit <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
oh yeah lmao
mfw i almost had to clutch that
zealous wing
Not just that, havoc density is ridiculous so even if you have cleave talent it ...
again, dont use assail to clear the horde by itself lmao
tropic halo
<@244173531129053194> look at this shit <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
God damn
zealous wing
assail is better for dealing with specials / elites while still melee-ing the horde, least in my experience, limited as it is
proper osprey
dont give me hope
Sending this after you
upper sun
discord is dying no one send videos
marble crater
Hexis doesn't answer, it's over
zealous wing
oh sorry
uh
i can try :'D i dont think i did that well xD
that was like, my 3rd game today
marble crater
You did well enough, except for the overheard at the start 
zealous wing
:(
i saw it coming and completely misinput
attack instead of pushattack
so at least i know what i did wrong
marble crater
Very sad
royal totem
i like eating overheads for breakfast
royal totem
i prefer bursters as a midnight treat
damn. right in the face explosion
weary crane
What's the release time?
sturdy reef
Did fotf always have 100% rending? I think it did but now they out it on the tt
thorn cedar
yea always did
sturdy reef
Good that they put it on the tt finally
patent mango
this guy a bit lost
upper sun
Did fotf always have 100% rending? I think it did but now they out it on the tt
no it had armor downgrade before
carapace to flak
maniac to unarmored
and uhhh unyielding to maniac?
or infested?
royal totem
what's Fotf >.< sorry haven't memorized everything
royal totem
oh. no wonder i dunno. i barely play zealot LMAO
patent mango
its ok zealot tree wont be abysmal soon
hollow current
Where's Tanner's video on this? He's the #1 guy........
sturdy reef
Tann my nuts
patent mango
who
upper sun
Bullies my beloved
tbh the bullying isnt as bad as a few patches ago
sturdy reef
True
oblique topaz
Does bolt pistol lethal proximity apply to overload explosion?
upper sun
i think as time passes theyre maing zealots less racist
sturdy reef
I hope so
oblique topaz
I cannot wait to throw games with crystalline will
patent mango
i cannot wait to WIN games with crystalline will
weary crane
upper sun
malice ahh builds
indigo portal
oh nice theyre buffing the chaxe12 again
Yeah they're pretty tasteful too, nothing crazy.
patent mango
malice playtester
weary crane
ill use the image to create my builds
indigo portal
Oh god that zealot tree 
The pre-blitz is reasonable there but good lord the rest of the tree
bright summit
Sloptide Powercreepdate
long wharf
what's the new psyker tree look like?
marble crater
what's the new psyker tree look like?
Like peak
zealous wing
marble crater
I won't tell anyone that you got trapped, trapped again and then died 
long wharf
WAAAA they made DD work like Arbites EO?!?
zealous wing
trapped, trapped, burstered while trapped, then died after untrapped and shot in the back
marble crater
zealous wing
didnt help that the arby shot the burster (probably by accident) right after i got healed 
marble crater
But yeah, just play auric, you are doing well
zealous wing
issue is with public auric idk who to stick with if the others split up
confidence issue
long wharf
oh man, we can really try to be suicide warp bombers now?
psyker's back on the menu, boys siblings
zealous wing
yes, suipsyker is real
swift eagle
issue is with public auric idk who to stick with if the others split up
why people splitting up in anything higher than damnation is a question id have. i get if its lights out or low visibility cause that can really screwball people without like super good map knowledge or dont maybe have playtime to remember them well or no flashlight
long wharf
look at that tree! it's so beautiful
zinc phoenix
issue is with public auric idk who to stick with if the others split up
ignore them, focus on the objective
zealous wing
if you clear enough, sure
zinc phoenix
if people arent going with you to do the objectives you just have to learn to do em solo, theres no real alternative other than die
zealous wing
i did specifiy confidence issue
the first thing drilled into me by dom was keep coherency with at least one person if possible
marble crater
issue is with public auric idk who to stick with if the others split up
Just need to be able to hold your own for a bit if shit goes wrong
zealous wing
i have managed to do up to heresy solo tasking
damnation i havent tried yet
though with the new tankiness to mobs in heresy i can see it being a stopper for me smashing through for a couple days while i get my trees together
long wharf
the first thing drilled into me by dom was keep coherency with at least one pers...
what you do in the privacy of your own home/room should likely stay there.
nobody else need know.
marble crater
zealous wing
tbh day one thats what it felt like ngl. malice mainly psyker with a shitty revolver build, dragged up to auric mael and h40
zinc phoenix
the first thing drilled into me by dom was keep coherency with at least one pers...
Well that’s why I like quietude, you can operate solo with it if you have to
zealous wing
well its actually feasable now
dont have to use 2 very valuable points, just one
as a scrier its on the menu to be looked at and tested
long saddle
SG is gonna be a nice toughness engine with quietude and new reality anchor
long wharf
I'm not convinced SG needed another massive buff
long saddle
it's on like 80% of my builds so
long wharf
if it gets any better, it'll become a "must have" for any psyker build
which is Bad Class Design
zealous wing
no, because bubble, and aoe shriek
long saddle
yeah the other abilities are always gonna be useful
long wharf
next update: SG underperforming, so psyker now gets +25% DR while SG is active (+10% DR when inactive)
zealous wing
i mean it already kinda does, preupdate
marble crater
They just can't help themselves with buffing right side
long wharf
update after that: SG still underperforming, psyker now gets +50% toughness regen per second while SG active
zinc phoenix
somehow lowest pick rate anyways
Low pick rate because smite gets 99.999% of play among the melons
zealous wing
update after that: SG still underperforming, psyker now gets +50% toughness rege...
it'd still be a battle of melee/gun safety vs actual DPS
zinc phoenix
And they want to pair it with bubble
long wharf
update after that: SG can't keep up, so psykers now take no more than 10% health damage in any one hit while SG is active
marble crater
"Having SG active automatically wins the game"
patent mango
sg now fully revives the emperor
zealous wing
somehow people would still argue bubble is needed in h40
long saddle
SG Smite can be p fun tbh
long wharf
"Psykers automatically Perils of the Warp every 2 seconds while SG is active (no damage nor corruption gain while SG is active)
patent mango
using sg now deletes smite from the game forever
weary crane
i have 1 more talent point
sullen bobcat
Are there any changes to smite?
Because smite is dumb
zealous wing
some sort of change, unsure what tho
patent mango
i wonder if they buffed hecking dclaw this update again
marble crater
The extra jump Talent is gone, maybe base now. Who knows
sullen bobcat
I honestly have never known what the uncharged attack on smite was meant to do
pale prairie
i wonder if they buffed hecking dclaw this update again
Dueling sword has a parry riposte now so d claw is dead
marble crater
I honestly have never known what the uncharged attack on smite was meant to do
Quicker single target smite
sullen bobcat
Does anyone ever use it?
I've tried it once, and it was awful
weary crane
get perilous assault
what ones that
sullen bobcat
Like, if it's for a single target, just fucking kill it
patent mango
what ones that
its the awesome swap speed one
zealous wing
is swap speed really an issue people have?
marble crater
Not if you use the talent!
patent mango
yeah psy needs to save like 3ms with it
weary crane
hasnt that been removed?
patent mango
perilous assault shot dead by plasma gunner
marble crater
Rip in pieces
zealous wing
a good point i dont see it here
long wharf
Dueling sword has a parry riposte now so d claw is dead
seriously?
weary crane
idk if just a dream will work with gaze
long wharf
so no more special stagger stab, but a parry instead?
marble crater
long wharf
.... the ds didn't need to be made better...
weary crane
fake news
long wharf
"DS underperforming, now guarantees one-shot on any enemy on any difficulty"
sturdy reef
I just want the mkV DS to be sick
weary crane
duel sword just isnt mentioned in the patch
long wharf
ok, so hear me out FartShack
sturdy reef
Its adm got nerfed
long wharf
Power Dueling Sword
long wharf
or Force Dueling Sword
sturdy reef
Its def nerfed
long wharf
Make Psykers Great Again
sturdy reef
Gib force billhook
zealous wing
let me stagger crushers with it and perhaps
sturdy reef
Zealot taxe has easy access to crusher stagger now
zealous wing
psyker force weaponry does too
sturdy reef
Its easier with taxe
weary crane
where does it say this?
zealous wing
Its easier with taxe
is it easier than pushattack?
sturdy reef
KF buff is nice
zealous wing
hell, KF gunker about to go BRRR on monsters and such
sturdy reef
Too bad brain rupture didnt get buffed
long wharf
dropping it from 15s to 12s will be noticeable, but I don't think an appreciable gain in dps to justify the point
sturdy reef
Surely it must with new elite hp values
zealous wing
dropping it from 15s to 12s will be noticeable, but I don't think an appreciable...
its also a 10x chance
sturdy reef
The talent is better but so are the enemies lol
zealous wing
pale prairie
seriously?
Apparently. They are lowering the heavy stab’s damage and weakspot multiplier as well
zealous wing
sonic schooner
Chat im a psyker main and havent touched the game in 2 months, my friend who plays is pinging the fuck outta me telling me something big happened, what happened?
long wharf
the cooldown is still way too long
marble crater
Tree rework
sonic schooner
No fucking way
weary crane
WHERE IS DUEL SWORD CHANGELOG
marble crater
Yes way
patent mango
Chat im a psyker main and havent touched the game in 2 months, my friend who pla...
PEAK happened
or will happen in like 15h
sonic schooner
WHAT THE FUCK
jovial juniper
patent mango
waa scary
jovial juniper
@weary crane
weary crane
I have a feeling it wont let you hold it permanently like dclaw
sonic schooner
long wharf
yep
sonic schooner
WHAT IS THIS
zealous wing
yes, suipsyker
long wharf
we're going to be seeing warp explosions everywhere
pale prairie
WHERE IS DUEL SWORD CHANGELOG
zealous wing
martyrdom psyker can be a thing now
pale prairie
They haven’t released patch notes yet so no hard numbers
weary crane
well the original crit modifer was like 900% so
marble crater
we're going to be seeing warp explosions everywhere
I wonder how many games will crash as a result
weary crane
surely the adm debuff will be negated by uncanny?
long wharf
given FartShack's history? perils of the warp will destroy the server and kick everyone back to main screen
weary crane
given FartShack's history? perils of the warp will destroy the server and kick e...
too many ppl bussin
sonic schooner
yes, suipsyker
No way ChubbyShark buffed the meme
zealous wing
they did
zealous wing
and its just one talent point away
sonic schooner
Is... dare i say... Is Fatshark based now?
long wharf
no.
zealous wing
we'll have to wait until it launches
zinc phoenix
DS changing to a parry… is honestly dope?
weary crane
it makes sense
zinc phoenix
I wanted a parry for it for years
And with duelist on zel getting reworked so it isn’t a game breaking bs trait it might not even get totally smacked to death
weary crane
its just funny since parry is the best special
zinc phoenix
Poke is really good tho
weary crane
this psyker build is gonna go insane
all my other builds have been nerfed
idk about arbites
weary crane
do we know anything about bug fixes like lethal prox
jovial juniper
I don't know
patent mango
already done with dclaw lmao
royal totem
anybody know how the Ogryn Power Maul changes are?
patent mango
hankjw has posted a vid of em
royal totem
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT A VIDEO T.T
patent mango
well you can read the thumbnail
zinc phoenix
Paul buff? Very nice
royal totem
..........
solid pond
#nerfpsyker
royal totem
ok. switching to Ogryn main 😏
solid pond
It's the 23rd
just a couple minutes away
royal totem
and only using power maul
patent mango
yeaah dont play psyker guys on the update uhh got deleted
solid pond
anyway
serious though, ol psyker mains
how you liking the tree
sarcasm about it being bad means its good but
how good
all ive heard is gooder crits and psykinetics aura no longer applies to the team
analog verge
crystalline will build
sturdy reef
Its goated
analog verge
will help my scriers build a lot
solid pond
will help my scriers build a lot
what the heck
analog verge
ill have to grab that 10% dr talent or whichever one it was
sturdy reef
Better to not have it
sturdy reef
Its all beneficial
analog verge
ill have to doublecheck where crystalline will is now but i might unironically take it
solid pond
middle bottom, left
analog verge
oh, eh
solid pond
POTS?
sturdy reef
It scales with peril
solid pond
perils of the sadness
sturdy reef
Capping at 20% rending
solid pond
pen of the soul, slaneesh type shit
analog verge
of the
ripe obsidian
PotS is probably good with non-soulblaze builds
But soulblaze already has too good armor modifiers
Unless they nerf them hard tomorrow
sturdy reef
Except cara
sturdy reef
If I can fit it in my SB builds I will
ripe obsidian
I do not plan to use soulblaze against the 10k hp crusher
ripe obsidian
If I can fit it in my SB builds I will
My most likely build, plus a tree with a bunch of nice nodes I can't fit
weary crane
will help my scriers build a lot
This talent is just objectively good, passive quelling only happens outside combat, so it's easy to quell it away anyway
patent mango
im too lazy to path it out beforehand this time
pale prairie
I need to play it before I make final decisions
But from first impressions I think the tankiness is a little much. Would rather have taken more damage improvements over tankiness improvements but maybe it’s cause they plan on buffing enemies over time.
The big win however really is the removal of a bunch of useless white nodes and the opening up of the tree so that picking and choosing different talents for different builds is great.
zinc phoenix
im too lazy to path it out beforehand this time
same
swift eagle
you know did anyone see if melk and brunt are getting changes? i know the shops are supposed to be "down" according to the game even if they're not
sturdy reef
Im jist waiting for games lantern
analog verge
and the toughness replenishment through warp ghost
swift eagle
wouldn't mind seeing changes to get more chances for curios
zinc phoenix
main thing i noticed was the 10% DR talent
they added more than we really needed in terms of toughness gen
weary crane
main thing i noticed was the 10% DR talent
There a 25% one too
patent mango
melk will be shot and then tossed out of the airlock i saw it in a video trust me
analog verge
ah thatd be it
patent mango
im just happy psyker wont be made of paper
swift eagle
melk will be shot and then tossed out of the airlock i saw it in a video trust m...
deserved
zinc phoenix
i like psyker being made of paper tho
analog verge
warp ghost should make keeping high peril easy = high damage reduction
i like psyker being made of paper but hey ill take a little extra DR
zinc phoenix
warp rider is the usual reason you want high peril
analog verge
i can experience 1/10 of an ogryns power
zinc phoenix
the dr is whatever
pale prairie
warp rider is the usual reason you want high peril
Unstable power too
zinc phoenix
yes
swift eagle
The question is is psyker really not still made out of paper compared to the other classes after this?
royal totem
i think like on one hand for many experienced players it's a lot of tankiness added and feels like a lot. but also it makes psyker more enjoyable by bad players (which is the majority of any game) and in that sense it's probably a good thing. that said, i do understand where you guys are coming from and more damage would be nice
royal totem
The question is is psyker really not still made out of paper compared to the oth...
it probably still is
patent mango
i just want psyker to not explode instantly when arby can also do silly dmg and be tanky as hel
swift eagle
Its like we're getting upgraded to coffee paper, but overall its just still paper haha
patent mango
also unchained 🙏
pale prairie
i just want psyker to not explode instantly when arby can also do silly dmg and ...
I am hoping the reduction in base toughness of arbiter helps with that a bit
patent mango
oops shouldnt have fire reacted now the paper will burn
analog verge
i think scriers got the 20% toughness DR baked in so ill be cruising
add to that the 33% from owtw and il be comfy
strong gulch
Things I wanna look at when my brain isn't mush. Blue is yes; yellow is maybe. This is for Assail trauma/ VB.
sturdy reef
10% from owtw
25% from that one node
But if ur going sg, dont take the katter
Latter
pale prairie
25% from that one node
The 25% I am pretty sure is just towards health. If you’re talking the one that turns it into peril
mellow prairie
Hi
swift eagle
I think it did state if you were to take health damage it'd go to peril with it.
pale prairie
My most likely build, plus a tree with a bunch of nice nodes I can't fit
I realized we no longer get 10% health bonus from that white node
strong gulch
I realized we no longer get 10% health bonus from that white node
I saw that.
pale prairie
I think it did state if you were to take health damage it'd go to peril with it.
It says “damage” but it’s worded similarly to a zealot talent that operates off of only health damage
pale prairie
I saw that.
So maybe still paper lmao
sturdy reef
The 25% I am pretty sure is just towards health. If you’re talking the one that ...
Thats pretty mid then
It feels like we got more regen
zinc phoenix
i just want psyker to not explode instantly when arby can also do silly dmg and ...
id rather arbie get nerfed
i dont love this "we will just buff everyone and raise the numbers on all the monsters"
analog verge
it got a couple nerfs didnt it
analog verge
not major ones but id rather too little than too much
marble crater
Where patch notes
pale prairie
Thats pretty mid then
I mean having 25% damage reduction to peril on top of a 10% dr node, on top of one with the warp providing 10% at base up to 33%. On top of a white node that offers 10% TDR and SG at base offering 20% TDR
swift eagle
i dont love this "we will just buff everyone and raise the numbers on all the mo...
But things did get nerfed, especially CDR. And from what I saw ogryns and arbies took some hits too?
pale prairie
I can understand why it works that way
analog verge
yeah ogryn got some of its numbers hit, mostly on the heavy hitter side of the tree
pale prairie
It’s really a node more for possibly surviving crusher or burster instant dead no revive
analog verge
batter got nerfed down to 1 stack, pumped up got hit
zinc phoenix
But things did get nerfed, especially CDR. And from what I saw ogryns and arbies...
if they were nerfed enough to matter we wouldnt be seeing enemy hp going way up
analog verge
enemy hp went way up because they were easy to kill no matter what
pale prairie
It was very small TDR and some damage stuff like Soften them Up
analog verge
its not an ogryn/arbites exclusive problem that crushers became only marginally more threatening than a rager
pale prairie
Like maybe 10% TDR across multiple talents and close to 10-15% on damage with lights
swift eagle
I do wonder why they decided to buff enemy HP, I thought that'd be more the problem of having rapid fire special abilities that was causing the spike of damage, but could be wrong.
patent mango
after ds everyone started doing 9 billion dmg lol
analog verge
i heard they also cut down the crusher spawns but that was from a reddit comment so, who knows
weary crane
Where update 
patent mango
never!!
sturdy reef
where weapon patch notes
patent mango
ogryn ated
pale prairie
I do wonder why they decided to buff enemy HP, I thought that'd be more the prob...
Because they don’t want to piss off arbiters purchasers or scare away future purchases of next DLC class. So they brought everybody up to the same “level” and just buffed enemies
It’s like threading the needle between buffing only players and buffing only enemies
patent mango
Because they don’t want to piss off arbiters purchasers or scare away future pur...
tbf ogryn was the first one at that power level
analog verge
if they kill arbites immediately there will be blood
im surprised we even got smalll nerfs
solid pond
Where update <:thumbsdown_ogryn:1063457066603249784>
13 and a half hours, soon TM
pale prairie
tbf ogryn was the first one at that power level
Maybe but they weren’t alone
swift eagle
I mean is this even the highest level of damage we've seen? I remember having a stealth zealot that could hammer one shot daemonhosts in the past, which was nuts.
analog verge
difference is hammer isnt also amazing at everything else
swift eagle
I mean I do see your point.
weary crane
Might be able to, zealot has a 50% backstab talent now
patent mango
funnily enough ds did powercreep thunder hammer
analog verge
thunder hammer oneshots are actually probably back with all the extra damage from infiltrate and backstab talents
weary crane
Yup
analog verge
well, by back i mean better than ever
solid pond
Might be able to, zealot has a 50% backstab talent now
im definitely trying it again
it still can but its harder than before
perhaps rework makes it easy again lol
royal totem
they did say there ill be less crushers though right?
solid pond
they did say there ill be less crushers though right?
yes
royal totem
so kinda balanced if more hp but less of them imo
pale prairie
I would love some more Thammer. I think with arbites being such front liners zealot is more of the elite and boss assassin than horde chaff killer
analog verge
how much health did auric crushers have before
patent mango
2.8k i think
analog verge
zealot did get that extra cleave talent
analog verge
2.8k i think
...goddamn
swift eagle
well now there is some team support you can get if you do stealth zealot with the supression off backstab which is nice isntead of all the loner stoof
marble crater
2x HP, 1/5 fewer Crushers
pale prairie
how much health did auric crushers have before
Now it’s 6500
royal totem
wow that's a HUGE increase
solid pond
2.8k i think
3600
modest perch
it was 5000
pale prairie
Next event is just all crushers
modest perch
or something
royal totem
oh if it was 5k that's not that huge
patent mango
ok those are a lot of different numbers
analog verge
ok im hearing its somewhere from 100 to 5000 health
royal totem
yeah..............
solid pond
lol, I just googled it
patent mango
ermmm ermmm
royal totem
ummm.......i'm now confused
solid pond
l2g
analog verge
crushers had NO health before
patent mango
crushers have INFINITE health now
analog verge
they bugged out and they never got an HP value
crushers will now have YOUR health
they will eat it
royal totem
wait but if there are less crushers
that means i get to see less people turned into pavement 🙁
marble crater
Crusher Health
Uprising 1800
Malice 2250
Heresy 2700
Damnation 3600
Auric 3600
weary crane
5000 health, golden, pus hardened, red, havoc 40 crusher, being healed by a scab captain
sturdy reef
There are still maulers
analog verge
but the crushers will live slightly longer, which means more potential for people to be turned into pavement
solid pond
but the crushers will live slightly longer, which means more potential for peopl...
slightly